>just get a mid-range gaming PC, bro
>>739560526Is that a lot of money?
>>739560526Maybe try getting a job
>>739560526the fuck is an 8400Fis that some type of laptop CPU
>>739560526that's clearly a scam though
>>739560609>>739560649for a low end card it's overpriced as shit man. used to be a pc like that would be $1k maxkinda sick of the rhetoric of "what are you poor" as the capitalist class keep exploiting YOU, it's pure cope
>>739560678cheap cpu that released 2 years ago for 170 bucks
>>739560526If you can't afford it why don't you just do the monthly payments? It makes gaming PCs much more accessible. Or just rent one.
>>739560761>Or just rent one
>>739560526is that canadian? there was an anon that got a 9070xt 9800x3d prebuilt for $1700 american recently
>>739560526>DDR5Just get DDR4 RAM, those are still cheap as fuck, and in the mid-range, you won't notice the difference.
>>739560526Could easily shave off $700 from that. The case looks fancy and I'm sure it has one of those overpriced AIO heatsinks with gay LEDs that start to rattle in under a year.
>>7395605268400f is a terrible processor anyway.
>>739561010DDR6 will fix it.
>>739560526The PS5 is now 650 for the disc edition and a mid-tier PS+ subscription is 125 EUR per year.The situation is fucked, you're stupid if you think consoles are somehow a good deal.
>>739561462>side fansWhy?
>>739561462piss yellow is a bold choice
>>739561665Human Revolution Edition
>>739561609The front is glass, so that's the only option. >>739561665It was the first result when I looked for an RTX 5060 gaming PC on Amazon anyway, I wouldn't buy some chink pre-built in the first place, but that's besides the point.If you were lucky enough to have built a PC before the price hikes you just tough it out. Otherwise you either suck it up and pay more, or you look for something like a used desktop workstation you can upgrade with a modern mid-range GPU.Apparently 10-th gen i7 systems can be found at reasonable prices now, so you could build something good enough for 500 dollars/euros.
>>739561159Teach me the way master
>>739561609Mostly for style. You could use them as intake fans(assuming they're reverse blade), but in most systems that would be an overkill.
>>739560526If you want more transistors, you pay more.This computer has more transistors in the GPU than a PS5, so it costs more than a PS5.
>>739560761>rent PC>swap ddr5 for dummy sticks>profittell me why this wouldn't work
>>739560526If you aren't buying at least 64GB RAM, a 5070 Ti, and a 9850X3D, just get a PS5 Pro.
>>739561968What sort of mental retardation is this?
>>739562006This anon just wants to make sure you don't have to buy anything else for the next ten years
>>739562006Snoy marketing department
>>739560526uhhhhhh this is really overpriced
>>739560526That just feels like an scam, those specs are massively bad even for a supposed 500$ price for 32gb of ram.Plus, if njudea gpus are too expensive why not fucking put an amd one, I literally bought a 9070xt for MSRP when crimson desert released.
PC gaming is so unbelievably keked it's unrealRest in piss
>>739560526just buy an office computer on eBay and put a new PSU and GPU in it. There just saved you like $600 for the same thing.
>>739560609>>73956064910 years ago that would be easily under $1000.
>>739560526Whenever i see RTX 5060 i know its an immediate scam no matter what.They are just tricking facebook moms and tech-illiterate inbreds who will think its the newest one when in-fact its worse than 2080
>>739562006Futureproofing. Unless you're willing to just play old games, then you're going to want to overspend today, so that you don't have to incrementally add shit later.
>>739561943Because the next client will complain, they will look who was the last guy to rent and then:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd68AthoNIw
>>739562048Hes also making sure i won't play any games.
>>739562126*trounces the PS5 in number of good exclusive games*
>>739560526Get a 4xxx or 3xxx GPU and you cut the price of that in half, at the very least, at the cost of... nothing actually.
>>739562048Sure the rest of the system will probably outperform even the PS6 once that comes out, but the 5070 Ti probably won't. >>739562052The PS5 Pro is such poor value lmao I have no idea who would even consider it besides hardcore fanboys. >>739562297You buy what you need, overspending when the market is so fucked is stupid.
>>739562376Is this one of those small form factor PC's that has terrible heat problems? Might as well just get a series Sexbox.
Will ram prices ever go down
>>739560526>just get a gaming console, bro
>>739560526That is a piece of shit and that price is a joke
>I want to be a real gamer and play on a Gaming PC>the games being played
I just got one miles better than that for not much more from best buy
An equivalent PC cost $600 4 years ago
>>739560526>not having a mid-range pc since 2010kek
>>739562667Don't think so, at least not for the foreseeable future due to AI sloppa.
>>739560609It's around 2-3 weeks of labor for a felon warehouse worker in the US
Just built this baby about 6 weeks ago It was like buying a car. I’m glad I’m locked in for the future now but this shit isn't sustainable at all.
>>739562573What? no, that's office garbage, possibly with some intel IGPU or very low end geforce 1030. The kind of thing you find in a dumpster dive in australia before it gets wiped out in the operation british
The trick is to wait until August this year then buy some freshman's gaming PC when he goes off to college
>>739562412The market isn't going to get better. It hasn't gotten better since the RTX 2000 series came out and and that won't change. The only difference will be RAM dropping in price.... maybe.
>>739562667Yes
>>739562890thats ugly af
Some of you people need to just accept you're poor.
>>739561462>16GB RAM>DDR4>550WPoverty-tier parts
>>739563091Cry about it nigger youll never touch tech this nice in your life
>tfw built my 9070xt + 9800x3d + 32GB DDR5 rig for $2000
>>739562791In the tail end of crypto boom? Maybe 3 and a half years ago when etherium moved away from proof of work and the used market was flooded with miner cards.
>>739563104If you're not a billionaire you're not even close to being on the team bro. Humble yourself because life is gonna do it sooner or later.
>>739560609not for people that have a job above minimum wage
>>739563104Just because I'm poor doesn't mean I should give up on gaming. PC gaming is still cheaper than most comparable activities.
>>739562958Not by the end of the year, but in the long run it will unless we get dragged into another recession, WWIII or another global pandemic. The chinese are ramping up supply of DRAM and NAND chips, and while they have no incentive to undercut western manufacturers at the moment, the increased supply will have an effect on the prices. I'm expecting that at least some of the AI companies will go under in the next few years too, this is the best one can hope for at the moment. >>739563109lol this nigga thinks he needs a 1000W PSU.
>>739563126thats fine. still ugly af.
>>739560526>i5-12400>RTX 3060 Ti>32GB DDR4I bought a 9070 XT back in January but I'm too lazy to install it so it's just been sitting in a box
>>739563109You can upgade most of those easily if they ever become problems down the line.
>>739562890>all that empty spacekek you got a case too big
>>739563273>but I'm too lazy to install it so it's just been sitting in a boxThat's crazy
>>739562890If it makes you happy, who am I to criticize.
>>739563109Those things play games just like C's get degrees kek
>>739563246>unless we get dragged into another recessionAn economic downturn would be great for consumer prices. It would depressed demand because so many people would be out of work, businesses would be losing out on customers, and revenue would be dropping across the board. Economic collapse is the best way to bring down prices.
I'll be sticking to PS6. PC gaymers the most cucked goyim on earth rn.
>>739563316>what is airflow
>>739563316Unfortunately most modern cases look like fucking aquariums.I blame normies coming to PC gaming.
>>739560526I'm not sure this even qualifies as mid-range with only 16GB of RAM and AMD CPU without 3D cache.
>>739562858How many weeks of teenage McDonald's wagie in the US is this equivalent to?
>>739563390The problem is if I'm out of a job I won't be upgrading my PC either.
>>739563401Just buy a case without superfluous glass elements. Ez
>>739563262Not what everyone else says, stay poor and jealous though. >>739563316Its built for dual gpus even though I only have the 5090 in there right now
>>7395634273?
>>739563126>minimum wage worker has to defend his purchase to other peopleMany such cases.
>>739563452>not saving up during years of plenty
>>739560609Not for anyone that is employed and is going to spend most of their free time using it. However, the price is silly high for a weak PC compared to just a decade ago.
>>739563427I don't know. The teens I see working at my local mcdonalds have iPhone 17 in their back pocket and apple watches so it can't be too bad if you want one bad enough maybe a month or two
My 1070 has no issues running all the games I actually want to play, I leave the UE5 slop to youtubers and golems
>>739563542This is a $10,000 PC >I’m going to attack and insult you because I’m jealous and if you defend yourself you lose You an ugly dysgenic jewish freak by chance?
>>739563503Why would anyone use dual GPUs this day and age? Unless you're running two dumbster dived potatoes so that one runs graphics and the other one Lossless Scaling, that is.
>>739563651You got brain problems.
>>739563104I am. That's why I am on 1080p and playing on a 5 year old PC with 16gb ram.
>>739563469I have a Fractal Pop Air with no RGB and a steel side panel, it's one of the few modern cases that still have a 3.5 and 5.25" bay. And I'm still upset that the the old Fractal cases had bays for like 4 optical drives and 5 HDDs or something like that. What's the point of a giant case if you can't put anything in it?
>>739563556>just give your money to the "bank", chud
>>739563706>Why would anyone use dual GPUs this day and age?AI. Local LLMs allow you to stack up on VRAM if you have multiple cards, you can use them to run bigger/smarter models.
>>739563706Because I work in 3D and media technology so AI and houdini and everything related to that, all of which benefits from multiple gpus >>739563713My successful career proves otherwiseHating jews is what rational sober minded people do by the way, stupid golem nigger.
>>739563643I run two computers and I use the one with weaker GPU(RTX 3050 6GB) most of the time.
>>739563745Get an air duster and clean your PC once in a while bro, better yet put your PC on the desk or something instead of the floor.
>>739563643russki cope
>>739563743So, you play on a PS5.
>>739563889Ps5 can do 1440 60 though
>2060 SUPER>5500>32GB DDR4im bing chillin
>>739563745you dumb nigger youre using hdmi
I remember 10 years ago when you could still play almost every games with only 8gb of RAM, some even stilled worked very well with 4.Consoles becoming too powerful had disastrous consequences on optimization, and now that everything being 100 times more expensive, it's biting our asses.I wonder how it will be for the next gen of consoles though, because if they still try to get more powerful, it will be much too expensive for the regular players.What's the goal here? for no one beside an extreme minority to be able to use things? how is this even viable monetary?
>>739560714Capitalist class… you mean jews?
>>739563920Enjoy your rig, king
>>739560526>Mid-range>Posts pic of an ultra low-end PC?
Xi will save us. Free temu spyware machines for everybody.
>>739563104I'm not 5080 rich, but i am "i could move TODAY from my igpu to a 3060ti" rich, but i see no point.There's literally nothing i want to play that need more than the vega8
>>739563836It's a business expense? Based
>>739563961yeah, I don't get their endgame either.
>>739563961Just go play Roblox.
>>739560526>amd cpu>16 gb memoryso basically they dumped a mid tier graphics card into a pile of shit and charged 1800 dollars for it
>>739563858I actually clean it from time to time, it doesn't even sit on the floor btw, it's worse than that I keep it under my bed.The PC behind it is my home server, which was dead at the time and I wasn't sure what the problem was so I was running cables from the PSU of my PC to the server without taking it out of the case. >>739563928It's displayport nigger, though still a bad purchase since it's a cheap 5m cable from AliExpress that acts as an antenna and disrupts the picture unless you run it in a very specific way.
>>739561609swag points. bitches love side fans
>>739563961next gen consoles will be streaming based. this is the future for the poorfag
>>739563979Ultra-low end would be like 10th generation Intel Core i5>>739564006
>>739563965This. Young zoomcucks really need to ditch the whole tiktok marxism bullshit, so many of them vacantly parrot this dumb shit with zero understanding of what they’re saying. >>739564035I’m salaried so unfortunately not but I can afford it in cash so I’m good either way I freelanced for years but genuinely hate interacting with the general public so now I just have a comfy wfh job instead.
>>739564074pull out that cable I dont believe you
>>739564068>5060>mid-tierNo wonder you think AMD is trash.
>>739563154Around the end of 2022. Prebuilts and components were starting to become affordable again. I scored a brand new 1650 for $180 for my esports PC. They were $300+ during the Covid supply shortage and cryptoboom.
>>739564118This cannot be viable, many people, especially those who are poor, don't have a good internet connectionthis is why the original stuff that did that in the early 2010s failed, they were aiming at poor people and really were doing it out of goodwill, and it failed. Doing this now would be just as bad but without even the goodwill left.
>>739564018I'm certain most PC gamers are like you. They're perfectly satisfied with the gaming experiences they have now. Of course, everyone would like to have something nice, but really, there's not much of a need. How many worthwhile games are there that even require high-end specs? Can anyone in this thread name 10 in the past 5 years? Who would even want to pay full price for any of those games?
cars are way more cucked, way more expensive, then they have problems and you have to pay to fix them
>>739563961Just look at the way late zoomers and gen alpha are shifting away from gaming in general. We're all already being conditioned to only need brief cheap dopamine hits and be satisfied with an eternal workplace life. The market being walled off and eventually turned into a true luxury industry for the wealthy is happening in tandem so by the time it truly sticks, no one except crotchety old men care.
>>739564170That's your problem, my monitor supports DP daisy chaining and my TV is connected to the monitor. That way I can connect my laptop with one single Thunderbolt cable and the PC with just DP and USB.
>>739564251You can fix your car yourself, you know.
>>739564251anon, EVERYTHING is more expensive, and it's not looking to go down
>>739563651>$10,000 for a mid range PCI'd be ashamed too adding bad credit for silly purchases.
>>739560526We told you to do this for YEARS. If you ignored us and only started considering PC gaming after hardware prices went parabolic that's your own fault.
>>739564231Who cares about the poor?
>>739563920I’m using 6650xt, 5600 and 32gb ddr4
>>739564429the """rich""" people itt apparently
>>7395643799950X3D and 5090 with 64GB ddr5 cl30 6000mhz with 8TB ssd isnt mid range, lil cuck.
>>739560609>>739560649Bots
>>739564429Streaming for games was originally made for the people who were too poor to buy computers, and computers were a lot cheaper than now. The prices themselves were fairly low as a result. but it originally was done out of good will.However, it ended up failing, because the internet connection of poor people were not good enough.Trying to mass market this now would only cause to a bigger downfall, because not only it would try to aim at more people than the poor (people who USED to be able to buy computers), but all the prices would be more expensive, and the internet connection of most people still isn't good for this outside of a few cities in the world.What used to be something created for the poor people, would now be used to try to shackle people up to the middle class to expensive subscriptions.
>>739560609No i love giving all my money to mr baumsteinsekelbergowitz and the state of israel and living in studio apartments and eating bugs
>>739564251Just buy a Toyota.
>>739563965No, all the evil organizations run by jews have executives of other races too. You can't lay evil at the feet of jews as if your race or any other is the picture of divine righteousness. Racism makes it easy for dumb people to make sense of the world but it doesn't show the whole picture. All of the race of man is evil.
>>739564405tfw impulse bought a 5070ti for $800 before tax last october. ive spent $3k usd upgrading 3 pcs around la casa since the start of 2026.
>>7395605261k is nothing, are you poor?
>>739564317I wouldn't build my own computer after my experience with that
>>739563319Not really I have my ram and SSD in a box since September
>prebuildretard
>>739564235Depends on what you like, if you're into CoD shit, you probably need a better machine, but you're probably better off with a console due the fuller online lobbies.
>>739564620thanks chatgpt
>>739564646and then your car will never be good enough you'll always be under pressure to get a better car there is a deep vanity to it
>>739564653Nope, this shit is entirely the fault of jews rigging the currency and forcing everyone to act like sociopaths so they too don’t become enslaved. The issue is far deeper and systemic than you are willing to accept. Jews are racist as fuck by the way, go the fuck outside dumbass.
>>739560609Is that a lot of money? No.Is that a lot of money for those specs? Yes.
>>739564653>muh waycism gas yourself kike
>>739564708That's even crazier. Why not get off of 4chan right now having useless conversations with idiots and put your parts into your PC?
>>739564689Then pay. But those are your options(other than scamming some "friend"/"relative" to do it for you for free).
>>739564689Ive built a lot of PCs. It really is just legos with screws. Cars are much more complicated.
>stale baitMeh.
>>739564838I won't get a new pc any time soon make no mistake >>739564885pcs can have weird problems fuck them
>>739564485Woowee! $8,000 mark up on a $2,000 mid range PC.. Companies love these type of people. Hope all your debt is paid off by time you want to retire.
>>739564885Legos are cheaper than PCs. Mostly.
>>739564620Streaming was never done out of goodwill, nothing ever is, they wanted to hook people with a good deal until they gather enough users and then start ramping up the prices just like every other digital service. And the one use case where it made sense was dead on arrival - streaming games when you're travelling and don't have access to your console/PC, because you wouldn't have a good enough connection.The best thing to come out of that whole experiment is Sunshine/Moonlight, I'm playing pirated couch co-op games with a friend and streaming to his PC and it works great.
>>739565093I already said I bought it in cash The 5090 isnt a FE btw Keep seething in jealousy
>>739560526we have an alternative to poor people like you, it's called consoles
>>739565196Sorry, but modern consoles are for well-off yuppies.
>>739561462The PS5 is guaranteed to run every major release for years to come, this isn't.
>>739565167Was ANYTHING ever done with "goodwill"?
>>739563087The GPUs will take some time. Not only to make the hardware more efficient, but it's going to take a while to make drivers that can make the most of that hardware when running games.
>>739565306>years to comeIt's already six years old.
Just get a midrange PC 2 years ago, dumbass
>>739565306Are you joking? The PS5 is 6 years old already, we're way past the halfway point of its lifecycle, in a couple of years all you'll get are some sloppy seconds from the PS6.That PC will run PS6 games just fine even if not at the highest settings.
>>739565416ps4 was still getting releases years beyond ps5's launch. ps5 will do the same, because few people feel the need to upgrade. there really is no benefit but exclusives since the tech has peaked
>>739565416not same anon, but they probably will extend the life of the console because prices are too expensive for a true new gen to happen
>>739563286>can upgradeLow end prebuilts have shit tier everything because normalfags only care about the CPU/GPU/RAM. You will not be able to upgrade this in any meaningful way unless you'll buy everything new.
>>739565383Yes, but it's always just a matter of time before some asshole takes over the operation. But you could never launch a streaming service with good will -bux.
>>739564436>6650XTThe patrician's choice. I had one but it started getting the dreaded AMD green screen crash just 5 months after I bought it. I RMA'd it, sold the replacement, and bought a "new" chinese 2060S from Amazon that's going strong to this day.
>>739563961The ps5 and XSX weren't even powerful enough to run Cyber punk properly which was their flagship game...
>>739565494Did you learn nothing from the PS4 Cyberpunk fiasko?
Even if you're not a PC enthusiast who knows a ton of how components work and what the best kind are it's still incredibly easy to build your own without dealing with pre-builts, you don't really need that much stuff and majority of it is easy to put together
>>739565558that's more due to poor optimization from the dev, that game should have released a year later if not more
>>739561836What you will need>Tails Linux distroSelf-explanatory. You will install this on a laptop. >a shitty throwaway PCYou can get a Thinkpad at Goodwill for $200. It just has to run a web browser. Don't use anything you've ever logged into legitimately. Don't use a phone, retard, those have cameras, spy on you and geolocate.>Mysterium DarkOpen node VPN that accepts crypto and cash in envelopes.>public wifiMore small businesses offer this than you may realize. Avoid large corpos like McDonalds since they have cameras. Don't steal neighbor's wifi, this will geolocate you more easily. "Why do I care about that if I have a VPN?" Because being extra careful helps extra. Additionally, if law enforcement decides to grill Mysterium (this has never happened and they claim to keep no info) they'd end up at some place of business without cameras, looking for a guy who came here a year ago.>ebikeYou need something that doesn't have a license plate but is relatively fast. You can rent these in many places. If you have a normal bicycle this can also work. Don't use your car nor rent one, stupid. Walking is more time spent in enemy territory (porch pirate smuggling a PC or laptop.)
>>739565383Arguably FOSS software, though there are corporate interests there too. This is why I use FOSS whenever possible, I'm simply sick and tired of companies changing the terms of sale after the fact. I self host everything now, and why wouldn't you when there's wonderful solutions like NextCloud, IMMICH, jellyfin etc.
>>739565507>upgarde PSU(like fifty bucks max)Woah. That was almost impossible, herculean task.
>>739565685>bagYou need something to put the item in. Check the item's dimensions. For my purposes I used one of those Trader Joe's freezer grocery bags, since they're huge and it's not weird if someone is carrying this. Backpacks are suspicious. The more you look like a Bernie Sanders voter the better.>helmet, gas station sunglassesA bicycle helmet is a great tool because it obscures your head shape. It compresses your chin and makes your head look bigger. Gas station sunglasses make your eyes look different in a non-suspicious way. People are less likely to think someone in a bicycle helmet is a criminal because you look like a retard.>exercise clothesBuy a cheap grey or dark blue polyester shirt and shorts off Amazon. Buy a bundle in fact. I assume you already have generic socks and sneakers nobody would recognize.>public transportLook into bus lines near your delivery zone. Read more for info on picking a good delivery zone.>obtain informationThe first step is getting past the ordering process. For this you will need a means of payment. To obtain a means of payment you will need an identity. We can't use your real identity since we're writing theft fanfiction so we would (in our fanfiction, not real life) use somebody else's. I will not spoon-feed how to obtain this (since that would be an actual crime vs. the fanfiction I am writing right now; don't do any of this) but I believe there's places to get this info. They would probably use Telegram and be offshoots of infamous websites that once offered this stuff on the clearnet such as Nulled. Those awful men apparently sold leaked SSN info, photos of driver's licenses and other stuff. Can you believe that? I didn't hear all of them were arrested and most of them were Pakistanis or Romanians anyway, making them small fish for law enforcement, so they're probably still out there doing nefarious activities.
>>739560609Yeah. By the time I've paid all my bills I probably have like $400 play money a month
>>739560526You see the first two letters of the title? HP?That's Hewlett-Packard. A 'name brand' in the computer world.That's the entire reason the price is so high. You're paying for the name, not for the parts.
>>739565416>>739565487Do I need to remind you the PS4 got almost every new release until 2024? In fact the PS5 is in a much better situation because the shit tier Jaguar+HDD combo made the PS4/PS5 difference much bigger than what will be between the PS5/PS6.All while 16GB RAM/8GB VRAM is already a serious issue on PC because basic logic spills over already. Which means even the lowest preset won't save you.The Series S gets games on lower preset than the lowest on PC but gets them. That is one of the few advantages of the consoles. A shit tier PC will simply not be able to play the game.
>>739560526I was honestly contemplating getting this PC but decided against it. Found a much nicer one for $1000 but am poor/unemployed so I'll just wait and cope for the time being.
>>739565614I learned that even if a game is total broken dog shit, people will still eat it up.
>>739565640As long as you provide a full lifetime warranty for my home built PC and its parts.
>>739565806What are your bills and their costs? Itemize all of them.
>>739565869The jews were right about goycattle.
>>739565943Ill provide an ass raping
>>739565827>That is one of the few advantages of the consoles. A shit tier PC will simply not be able to play the game.how does that even work anyway? Why can't a computer that has the equivalent tech run things? Games are made on PC too, this shouldn't be an issue
>>739560526My little sister just got this prebuilt yesterday and this is in CAD. Im fairly certain prebuilts are cheaper than buying parts right now, which is fucking weird. https://www.canadacomputers.com/en/armoury-gaming-desktops/267853/armoury-amd-ryzen-7-5700-radeon-rx-9060-xt-16gb-ram-1tb-ssd-w11h-rtaru00162.html
>>739565827What games are you even talking about? FIFA? Black Ops 7? That PC will still run PS6 games just fine, maybe you'll have to lower the textures from Ultra to High, big deal. You act like it's the late 90s and with each new generation of GPUs the old ones become obsolete and there's a new DirectX/shader model version every couple of years.
>>739565869People don't know it's total broken dog shit until they buy it.This is the power of the marketing, and this board is the byproduct of this strategy.
>>739566248Was like that right after covid too. bought a prebuilt for 2500 in 2021 cause the video card alone was 1400 at the time.
>>739565640>ven if you're not a PC enthusiast who knows a ton of how components work and what the best kind are it's stillMan just use AI, claude sonnet 4.6 is fucking free and it'll accurately answer almost anything about this
>>739565614Cyberpunk is an fps, it can only be played on PC anyway
>>7395660021. Phone bill2. Rent3. Student loan payments4. Netflix5. Disney+6. Paramount+7. Psychiatric appointments8. Meds9. Installments for TV, jackets and shoes
>>739566370When Anthropic guarantees replacement parts for anything I might screw up through human error, then I'll use their AI programs. Actually, can you sue an AI company if their AI answers are wrong?
>>739563961Uncharted 4 is one of the most important games of all time but for different reasons then you would think when I say this.When it came out, it was the best looking game of all time and it was exclusive to the ps4 and it ran on it pretty decently. Its at this point I realized we don't need much more then that. The 1080(non ti) is about 3-4× more powerful then a ps4 btw and we are now at several times that gpus power and games look the same as uncharted 4 not better... There is clearly some bullshit going on in game development causing everything to take way more resources then needed. A 5050 should be all anyone should ever need but its being seen as a waste of components because the demand to play games is too highAnother thing is we really shouldn't be using 1000 watts of power just to play games. Optimization and efficiency should become game devs new forte. The switch 2 has the power of a ps4 pro but at 30 watts, I'm actually hoping it continues to sell gang busters so it becomes the main platform and games are actually optimized again.
>>739566447bruh wtf is this shit are you a woman
My 3 year old 4060 laptop still works fine
>>739566248>Ryzen 5700>not 5700X, or better yet, 5700X3D
>>739566529based. my decade old build can still play cookie clicker
>>739566506that because the games used to be super optimized for consoles, so it reflected on the pc version too.this optimization isn't happening anymore, and executives sometimes also PREVENT developers to really optimize their games as they think it's now a "waste of budget" as "everyone who play games own things powerful enough"in a logical world, future games would shift back to being optimized due to components being far too expensive, but I doubt executives will think like this
>>739566506>so it becomes the main platform and games are actually optimized again.Here's the optimization you'll be getting as the generation goes on. https://youtu.be/uf3-z5_U22A?si=WoygxEib5l5O7RIkhttps://youtu.be/iXahPAYjbzw?si=N5KqoZWCfn6RXH7O
>>739562124>bought a 9070xt for MSRPNo you didn't
>>739566585i was playing resident evil 7 with a 750ti without problemssounds like you dont know how to build a pc
>>739566050Despite the memes consoles are still custom made target hardware, they just use heavily modified "off the shelf" AMD parts now. Older consoles did this too except not from PC manufacturers.When devs target a low end console like the Series S or Switch 2 they can custom tune the experience which they won't do for PCs due to the insane combination of hardware they already need to optimize for..
>>739566801i just like cookie clicker
>>739566050Of course the games will work he's being facetious. Also you can expect PS6 to focus on machine learning upscaling and frame generation first and foremost. They'll run games at 1080p/60 native and upscale to 4k/120fps. >>739566543The 5700 is a scam of a CPU, but realistically it still gets the job done and a 5600 is still all you need. Reminder that even the R5 3600 is significantly faster that the base PS5's CPU. >>739566506>Another thing is we really shouldn't be using 1000 watts of power just to play games.This isn't a thing unless you're running a 14-th gen Core i7 and a 5090. A base PS5 tops out around 230W, my PC consumes around the same with peaks to 250W.
>>739565827>The Series S gets games on lower preset than the lowest on PC but gets them.There isnt a single game that does this overall as variables are always worked on depending on GPU bound criterias when it comes to Lockhart. Even Series X or base PS5 sometimes use lower than lowest values than PC versions. Series S has gimped resolution so image quality,framerate and texture quality but thats it really. Series S versions also use gimped RTGI and other gimped or partial raytrace effects too but no game yet is using lower than lowest presets on PC because there is no need to. MS provides automated scalability tools that allow you to adjust Series X build to Lockhart GDK with couple of clicks. Biggest issue with Series S is its memory. Modern engines scale like dogshit in general and pushing for highest presets even on high end PCs is pointless because no one optimizes rendering pipelines around these so you barely see difference for big performance hit. t.worked on two AAA Series S game builds for Bandai Namco.
>>739566259007 First Light reqiures 8GB VRAM for the lowest preset 1080p30fps on PC. That is lower than the base PS5 which will have a 60fps mode. What do you think will happen when the PS6 will raise the bar? 8GB VRAM is money down the toilet. Anyone who buys this has to play lower than the PS5 right now.>b-b-but I don't play modern slop!!Then your opinion is irrelevant. 8GB VRAM won't be enough for GTA6 which everyone will want to play.
>>739566680>SwitchI said switch 2
we've reached the point of PCtards telling others to just buy any PC, even if it's the shittest PC available just because it's a PC. You're in a cult - or you're completely retarded
>>739567179And what do you think is gonna happen over time...?
>>739566002>Home + property taxes $1000>Car $300>Electricity/gas $300>Internet/phone $100>Fuel $100ish>Food $300ish$2000 dollars spent before you account for whatever the problem of the month is that needs money thrown at it. Shit sucks
>>739567169I thought I heard the ps6 was going to be a hybrid console like the switch and be weaker then the ps5?
no one worth their shit buys a 5060 maybe a grandpa buying a pc for his grandkid.
>>739560609>>739560526I work an entry level corpo job and get paid more than this every paycheck after tax
>>739566050It doesn't work like that. It's just console plebs coping
>>739567273>home + property taxesOh, my God. A home owner has problems in their lives. Oh, fuuuck. That's terrible. Oh, gosh. My sympathies. You're so unfortunate. I wish you the best. God bless, you, anon. Please take care of yourself.
Just don't be retarded.
is today crab bucket day or something?
>>739567417you sound butthurt to fuck
>>739567284According to the current rumors the PS6 will have a proper home console and a handheld. The home console will be a proper stronger system. The handheld (based on PS6 tech to upscale but weaker than the PS5) will try to take market share from Switch 2. The plan is to play PS4 games native and downgraded versions of PS5 games.Also there is a meme MLID made up that the PS6 will have a Series S version but no proof. The more likely is you can dock the handheld and that one will be for the poorfags.
>>739560609Amerigoys must spend 90% of their paycheck on foodslop, pls understand
>>739567417its an apartment in bumfuck nowhere. try not to get too jealous now
>>739560526I’m looking to drop about 3 grand what’s the best I could find for that?
>>739567169They said the same for the lego batman game and it ended up running fine (or as good as one can expect from jeet engine 5).You're insane if you think a game that's getting a Switch port somehow won't run at 1080p/60 on an 8GB GPU. GTA VI will run too, though a PC release is so far ahead in the future it's a moot point. I like how you made a strawman just to tear it down though lol. I'll screencap your post and use it once the 007 game comes out.
>>739567482That's right. Keep bitching about you're white, middle-class, suburban, capitalist lifestyle.
>>739562715That game would be fucking euro truck simulator and I don't personally like trucks or driving my car.
>>739567549I'm not that other anon. I'm pointing out you sound like a whiny butthurt bitch and your response just proved me correct. Maybe if you weren't a fucking communist faggot the world would throw you a bone and not hate you
>>739567478They have these threads daily if not several times a day complaining how shitty their lives areThe external conditions may not be great but it's always up to you to make the most of them>you are le bootlicker goy cattleok stay in your nihilistic despair. Not my problem
>bought a refurb with a 3070, i9 and 64gb RAM for 1k 3 years agoDoes everything well enough and I don't care about Ultra settings, sometimes buying used works out
>>739566543she doesnt need something like that, shes literally just a normie who wants to game with her friends.
Oh shit. This warm weather is making my RTX5090 hit 70 degrees. Send help
>>739567260Half of all posts on this site are disingenuous and the kicker is they're always technically justified. Its 4chan. Look at /b/'s tagline. This has never been a place suitable for serious discussion. Sure maybe st one point, but that was only during the brief window where bait was genuinely heralded as an artform and poor attempts at trolling were universally and overwhelmingly ridiculed, striking a surprisingly workable balance between productive discourse and complete bullshit. People nowadays probably just look at how society has degraded over the past 15ish years, see this place as a reflection of that, and feel compelled to fight it when at the end of the day I could just fucking gaslight them if they're being skitz about something and they can't do anything about it, as bait now is simply whatever gets people to spend energy.
>>739567260Welcome to being popular.
>>7395660501. PC gaymers have higher standards.2. Console version can have performance settings by default that aren't even available on PC version for "reasons".3. PC version is an afterthought and the devs don't bother to make sure thst the game runs well on most PCs, just brute force it to work on medium to high end PCs "well enough".
>>739567261Nivida is shrinking their consumer supply again AND they canceled the 50ti line up, gaming is now a micro priority for them and it looks like amd is doing the same as they also canceled their next gpu. So do you really think there are going to be advancements in gaming in the next couple years? You are delusional if you think that whole industry isn't paralyzed because of ai and after ai doesn't look much better either. Whether its a bubble or not they will push for game streaming. They will want you to use their gpu's in their data centers with ai generated graphics to play games through a streaming service.So yes I hope they will keep optimizing for switch 2 in the mean time
any market experts ITT monitoring the RAM situation? is a crash coming or should I bite the bullet?
>>739566002Show me all your receipts from the past 6 years.
>>739566436It's an RPG tho :^)
>>739560609There’s a difference between unaffordable and overpriced. 5 peanuts for $10 is not unaffordable but it is sure as shit overpriced
>>739567260What are you talking about schizo?
>>739567540First Light was delayed for the Switch 2, it is not 100% sure it will come out. Borderlands 4 was delayed forever too. Switch ports are not relevant for the same reason Series S ports are not. Those are custom tuned, geometry changed, rt ripped versions of games. You can not run the equivalent AAAs on PC in most cases.8GB VRAM not being enough is prublic knowledge and every tech channel it telling you for years. Only idiots buy and argue with 8GB cards.
>>739567909Definitely buy in now because shit is going to get continuously expensive.
>>739565528Mine seems to be working fine the last 2 years
nah im good, pc gaming is cooked
If this carries on people will be forced to buy AMD lol
>>739567883You're not hoping there'll optimizations. You're hoping there'll be technological stagnation. There won't be, because software developers will continue to one-up each other as a differentiating factor. Hell, that's one of the big reasons why the Switch 2 exists. It has more powerful hardware and can produce better results. There will still be new gaming hardware (Steam Machine, PS6, Helix, new GPUs) that will come out over the next 6 years of the Switch 2's lifecycle and the Switch 2 will only get older. The optimization the Switch 2 gets will just be the PC version of lower settings.
>>739567909Even if there is a crash they would rather throw all the extra stock in a pit and set it on fire than sell it and drive down prices.
>>739560526Don't worry, bro.it will get worse
What’s the point of getting a beefy PC if modern games are all terrible
In the next year or two /v/ will turn into a Playstation 6 board. ha ha
>>739568005Obviously you shouldn't get an 8GB GPU if you can afford the 16GB version or a higher tier one, but you acting like 8GB GPUs are literally unusable is disingenuous. You can always adjust the settings to get good results with an 8GB GPU.
>>739568267Retards like flexing about how they wasted their money.
>>739568267You can use a pc for more than games bro
>>739568267I also make money on the same PC. It runs old games at 4k/120 on my TV, which is nice.
>>739562715how is this a bad thing
>>739560609its way overpriced is the issue a 5070ti rig 32gb ram 1tb ssd amd x3d cpu should cost that much but its in the 2800$ ball park
>>739566585nightreign somehow runs 30fps/1080p on my 2018 laptop (16GB ram, 1050 mobile 2G vram)
>>739567169>007 First Light reqiures 8GB VRAM for the lowest preset 1080p30fps on PC.That is ridiculous. Why is there not an extensible model that adjusts decently well under variable conditions yet? You'd think it would be a priority given that they could reach a wider consumer base
>>739563760Yes, goy, let your money get deflated year over year. What's that goy? You want to store your value in metals? I can offer you some at a generous 10% above spot price!
I got an Amazon credit card, bought nearly the best gaming laptop they had (about $6k) and then just cancelled the card
>>739568456You don't get it, you need to play the next big Playstation cinematic exclusive so you can play as a woman samurai, a woman in a world overrun with zombies, and soon as a woman god of war and a woman bounty hunter in a sci-fi setting.
Why are you poor?Don't answer that, it was rhetorical. You are poor because you are retarded.
>>7395685298GB VRAM is considered low end for more than a year now. If you can't afford better you probably won't buy AAA day one.
>>739568665And they sold your debt to some faggots who will pester your phone, your work's phone and your family's phones until you either pay or they successfully get a court order to get your wages garnished until the debt is paid off. Not to mention you fucked your credit into never being able to apply for a loan for anything ever again.But I hope you enjoy your toy.
>>739560526That's why the Steam Machine and Xbox Helix will exist for this. The Steam Machine will cost $700 bundled, the Xbox Helix will cost $1200. You will either get these, or you will own nothing and you WILL BE HAPPY!
>>739568267Its fun
>>739568747>it's okay that prices are retarded, I've got money
>>739568921Correct.
>>739568821Plenty of poor people would play these AAA games if the games would work on their old machines.
>>739568835None of that happened. They text me sometimes but I just ignore it. It'll be off my credit score within a few years, and it's not like I'm buying a house anytime soon anyway lol
>>739565306>>739565416In what world is that PC not going to run games for the next ten years?
>>739569101>None of that happened.just like your story of cancelling your credit card
>>739569074Those people are on console. You'll get a cheap hardware and you can spend thousands on shit games. On PC you are locked into a certain performance tier. That is why flavor of the month indies sell gangbusters but AAA can not optimize forever for low end because they sell graphics.
>>739569146I cancelled it by throwing it away and ignoring all their attempts to contact me about itIt really is that easy
>>739569235So it isn't cancelled. You just didn't pay for it. Retard.
>>739560609Only if you dont live with your parents.>t. makes $70k a year and still needs roommates and 6 day weeks to not have to live in the ghetto>east coast USA
>>739569284I would rather live in a ghetto than with random strangers
>>739569130People forget the long lasting PCs were top end when they were assembled. You won't run new games with low cards for ten years. Which is what most people have.
>>739562293I got a 4060ti a few years ago, and I don't think I'll have a problem.
>>739569327They're friends, but if anything it makes it harder to make them clean up after themselves.
>>739569281It's cancelled for me. I don't really care if they agree or not.
I rarely play any AAA games made past 2015 and most indie games Im into can run on a toaster. My next PC will probably just be a $850 workstation build and forget about all this stupid hardware arms race shit that's just being used to price gouge slop enthusiasts.
>>739569474sure thing. I don't believe a word you post.
>>739568665>>739569101>>739569235>>739569474This retard wont be able to finance a bag of chips in 10 years.
People can make a pc with a used cpu gpu and ram with the capabilities around rtx 4070 for 1k$ if they want to. a 9070xt pc is like 1900$ if you build it urself. Not to mention that this is overkill if you're playing in 1080p. Good 1080 pc can cost as much as 800$
>>7395697304 years until it disappears from my credit score. Not a big problem, I always buy my cars with cash up front anyway.The banks scam us every day, may as well scam them when you can.
>>739569882People like this have the mentality of sovereign citizens. Your contract doesn't apply to me! I have no obligation to pay for money I borrowed from you! It was given to me as a gift.Then they blame the world for their poor choices in life because all they think about it me, me, me.
>>739570072he's larping. nobody would buy a 6k laptop lol
>>739562667yes, when everything finally crashes within the next year or so
>>739570072It's telling how you think obedience and reverence for legal documents makes you a good person. You're a slave and you'll be paying interest until you die.>>739570131I did. Pretty good still, runs everything on high at least, with the cooling fan pad. I travel a lot for work so I wanted something that was portable, but handhelds are gay.
>>739569882I’m thinking of doing this honestly, just gotta switch where my direct deposit goes and close the account. What are they gonna do, stop me from buying a house I’ll never afford? Lmao.
>>739570229>I didno you didn't
>>739560526Unreal 6 will be unplayable on the 5090 so no need to upgrade now 980 Chad here
Lenovo legion 9i doesn't even reach near values of 6k$, so that guy is just bullshitting and retards in here are eating it up.
>>739570339>Unreal 6 will be unplayable on the 5090 so no need to upgrade now>Implying any new games will be worth playing.
>>739570551>I can't run new games so I just call them all shit we know
>>739564682yes, is that a crime?
>>739560609It's a scam
>>739560526Aren't pre builts more expensive?
>>739570782not by much. What they usually do is cut corners. Toss you a shit PSU or chink RAM and hope it lasts the life of the PC
So getting a PS5 where Sony has basically just never adressed security breaches, you have to pay to play online, and they have no games releasing ever, on a machine with less power than most PCs is a better investment at $700 or whatever nonsense they're charging now? I can play pretty much any game I want on PC btw.
My friend just guifted me a Radeon 6800. I already had a ryzen 7 5800x. How does that measure up? He wanted me to replace my 2070 so I can play more games with him and sell my 2070 so I can but a better monitor. He's a great friend desu.
>>739571676nobody cares that you can play your fucking PC you stupid fuck.
>>739571676>you have to pay to play online125 EUR per year since about a week ago btw, and it will get more expensive for sure.You could literally buy another PC with that kind of money if you resubscribe every year.
>>739570308If you don't care about your credit score, it's not a bad idea. Old debts get wiped after 7 years in America at least (which is a jewish tradition, coincidentally) so you're back to normal after that, especially if you've kept up with other payments and bills and such in that period. They'll text, call, and email you, but you can just ignore it or change your number lol
>>739560526>The PC I built for $800 is now worth $4000, used>I'm supposed to be mad
>>739560526That's what savings are for
>>739560526You can’t afford $1700? Like wtf just get a job you retard. Crazy how people can be poor or financially illiterate in 2026. Literally just work and you can get by, especially if you still live at home, that’s the ideal situation for jobbing and saving.>but I dont want to work, work is demeaning/pointless etc.Then stay poor and keep being a doomer and spend your entire life gaming in a dark room
>>739560714>used to be a pc like that would be $1k maxYeah but then reddit happened, and retards with too much money but too little brains started to pay top money for midrange shit as long as it had a "gaming aesthetic".
I've never seen the value of buying a gaming PC and it keeps getting more expensive. I got a used PS5 for £250, and a launch Steam Deck for £350. The only limit I've had is PCVR but I subbed to Shadow PC for a month for £40 to play all the ones I was interested in. For my use, I don't think I'll ever bother with a gaming PC
>>739560714Turns out printing money isn't that good of an idea
>>739560761>If you can't afford it why don't you just do the monthly payments? It makes gaming PCs much more accessible.Amazon and New egg have quite a few monthly payment options. rent to own kind of bullshit... I mean... with a computer, if you are continually pushing for the next hardware? sure.
>>739574328I just want a pc powerful enough to do decent video editing, I’m not that big a gamer but there are a few games that I want that are exclusive to PC for the king 2. It’s just aggravating that I have to spend probably 2k to get one that can last for a decade
>>739570661im sorry i didn't wanna make you feel bad for being destitute
>>739575130You just did, lying classist!
>>739561462...I might have overpaid for my laptop
>>739576153Laptops are always overpriced when compared to desktop spec for spec. You pay for the form factor and included periphelials.
>>739565487>The PS5 is 6 years old alreadyhas it been that much time already
>>739560761>should I save up for four months to buy a thing I want or pay in installments for six months for a 30% markup
gamers deserve to suffer for the last 10 years of /pol/ shiti hope the personal computer diescomputers are for work
I paid $1600 for a 4090 in 2023 and that purchase is looking better every year
>got the last 4080 super off of a backwater shitstore just as the 50 series was releasingPlease stay strong, my little war machine...
>>739572054>oh no it's 125 eurothat's like the same price as 8gb of 3200mhz memory lol
>>739572604so you can borrow 100k , fuck off on holiday for 7 years and return without owning anything?
>>739577472Point.
>>739562201That would mean a fair price for that pc would be €1400 ish
>>739572604>Old debts get wiped after 7 years in America at leastNo they don't.
>>739579313>>739579408I mean they get wiped from your credit score, not that the debt itself disappears.
>>739579825So some laptop is worth them just directly taking it from your bank account, them to make sure you're never able to get any type of loan or credit, can take your property or part of it.
I have a 9800X3D+9070XT PC with a 4K OLED monitorI dont play games on it I just browse 4chan all day
>>739561462Aside from the piss yellow, that's not an overly bad price. The only truly bad part is the 8gb 5060
>>739564763Ahh, you got no proof. Gotcha, hateful man
>>739560526if you live by a Microcenter still sells bundles of AMD/Intel CPU + mobo + 32 gb ram for $500. if you don't yeah it's fucked right now and it will never return back to normal. I think PC is still the better value tho, given the fact it's got infinite content for free.
>>739560526Aside from the new Doom, I cant think of a single game made in the last 5 or so years worth playing. All the best games run on a 1060.
>>739580106What? No.
>>739561010You are correct in that mid-range users won't notice a performance difference in the RAM, but the problem is that in order to use DDR4 you need an older mobo and CPU to pair with it.You can still build a pretty respectable PC with those older components, but it's still not cheap and it kind of sucks to spend all that money just to get a PC that's 2 or 3 generations behind from the start and has no upgrade path.
>>739561462they're saving on the PSU with this one, you would replace it soon. This will play basically all games at least at 30fps and more for older games. Why get this instead of PS5? well this is also a computer that can do other shit. Also mods if you like that.
>>739560526>8400F>mid-rangeAt least use the 7500F.
>>739562715if you are honest with yourself then its even better because you can get a cheaper pC that will play those games. A used 6 year old PC will play those games easy and only run you about 400 dollars
>>739563337people have spent money or worse shit like drugs and gambling
>>739564653no, it's basically jew, zoom zoom. you'll get there one day, lil fella.
>>739561010Depends on your CPU if you'll notice a difference. I know 13th and 14th gen Intel chips there will be a difference, and depending on the game, it can be a rather significant one.
Im tired of the western degeneracy. Russia although has its problems, at least tries to fix them. As of now Russia is>white>christian>conservativeNo jews in power, no feminist and gay agenda in schools. What else you need? Their wages outside of Moscow are relatively low compared to Europe's but that's actually good if you're from the western country and have your savings. You can buy a nice house and start a farm or some shit, taxes are low, lots of land, pretty cheap. There's a lot of room for business. My only concern is the gun market I heard buying a pistol or rifle is pain in the ass.I cant handle anymore of goyslop globohomo tranny homosexual degeneracy.
>>739560526>5060>mid range
>>739560649Ok, where?
>>739565306There are videos of the gtx 1060 running modern games to this day lol. yeah it's going to be 1080/900p + 30fps but the point is that it absolutely will play future games. you just need to lower the settings according like a console
>>739562897>>739562573Nah, these things are basically free despite often having i5s and i7s as no one in the office environment they were deployed in knows fuck all about computers. Their SSDs fill up so they chuck it on the e-waste pile. Put a used 1060 or the like in there and you got a decent 1080p rig that will run everything but the last 2-3 years of unoptimized slop for less than 200$. They make great servers, too.
>>739560526>planning a custom build for local AI prototyping>single gpu, cosnumer grade>at least $10kHalf of that is just ram. Its sad.
>>739567398what state or country?
>>739560526Why would I get a mid range PC?
Honestly bros, Im thinking of buying the parts off Amazon and paying for them in 4 instalments
I got a Costco pre built, 32 gb ram and gtx 5080 for like 2500? Not bad I felt. But yeah the midrange PC shit is ridiculous now
>>739561767God it really fucking is isn't it.
>>739564646>No, Money down!
>>739560526>R5 3600>used 12gb 3060>32gb DDR4undervolt and stable OC both cpu and gpupoorfag PC but can play anything
>>739564646but why?
>>739583620I love how you think it plays everything. It can barely run skyrim.
>>7395664471. Ok2. Ok3. Retard4. Retard5. Retard6. Retard7. Lost the genetic lottery8. Lost the health lottery9. What the fuck?
>>739577584what markup?148.34 * 12 = 1780like 1 cent more only
Is this a good deal /v/?
>>739560526thats only the price of a chair though, herman miller logitech
>>739560609>good quality thing made with basically magic you don't understand from parts all over the world that will last you at least 5 years>"GRR I have to save up??? 2 grand?? What a rip off!"I really don't understand why tech and gamers attract the biggest poorfags. These are clearly luxury items. Nobody blinks when a gucci bag is the same price, or a watch is like $20k. But a PC that does everything for you is priced at 2 weeks worth of paychecks? RIOTNo, it's not a lot of money.
>>739560714>low end carda 5060 is already considered low end? Jesus I must be getting old.
>>739560714>>739586741How is a 5060 low end? I was able to play Minecraft max render distance with shaders and Pragmata at highest settings perfectly at 60 FPS no lag.
>>739560649Most people who have jobs are spending half their money on rent and the other on gas, anon.
>>739560526The economy is just really bad right now, anon. I remember back in 2020 I built a PC with a 2060, a Ryzen 3600, and 16 gbs of 3600 vram for about 8-900 dollars. Had I went with the 2080 Super or TI, I STILL would've payed less than you would have for the pre built PC you're showing us.But nowadays between the garbage economy, scalpers, and price gouging because of AI, everything is like 2-3x the price of what it SHOULD be. You're better off visiting r/buildapcsales (yes, I'm telling you to use reddit) every day until you see a good sale on either a pre built, a bundle of parts (like a motherboard + CPU), or a GPU.
>>739560526>>739560761>>739574781It's just a cycle, guys. If you really can't wait, get into memory stocks, but the investing frenzy is drying up as investors themselves keep beating each other up to come up with excuses to leave. The dips are getting much more violent and frequent while the upside shaping up to as flat as a logarithmic function. This means nothing for prices or the mafia companies' profits. I had all my rigs paid for until the recent dip that took back my near $5000 profits. Sometimes, you just need to know when to exit.
>>739586921Hell I can still play pretty much anything just fine on my 3070
>>739586219Maybe if it was 35% off $2092.35
>>739560526
>>739586219Pretty damn good.
>>739560526>HP OMENDON'T get that lol
>>739586219Looks nice and all but gaymin' laptops are a total meme
>>739581717if you're poor enough to have to pay for a pc in instalments then just buy an older system and run it at 1080p 60fps. you don't need an expensive PC
>>739587985Not anymore
>>739587618That would be nice but this economy is fucked. Sure stocks are printing ATH after ATH because they are MILKING the goyim. There is no liquidity.
>>739588158nta but power draw drops a lot of these from good to mid. 5070 doesn't even have 12gb vram on the laptop versions.
>>739588158
>>739560649Where?
>>739589121Half the RAM...
>>739560526>buying prebuilt on amazonlol
i genuinely gave up on trying to get a pc anymore. im priced out.t. runescape m3 macbook pro gamer
>>739564653These neoniggers won't hear you. They have tunnelvision for the kike. This is also why they get raped in the ass by muds, jeets, nogs and gooks employing "jewish tricks" that they think only jews are capable of. Kind of ironic considering these idiots think themselves wise to the jew and its tricks.
For $900 and some change in early 2025 I bought a laptop with 4060 and 8C/16T AMD processor with 32GB of RAM.Even as the so called RAM crisis started there were prebuilts available online with the same specs at the same price. If you missed out on cheap PCs then you deserved it.
>>739590540Not a whole lot worse than Microjew. And Fry's is closed.
I bought one of these because I wanted to try to get into modeling, and it's been doing pretty damn nicely for what it is.
>>739563316that's a problem you wanna have
other than ram the prices for things are totally fine. My gpu barely went up and my 9800x3d is at a discount.
>>739560526>i5-14600K>32 ddr5>2 tb nvme>5060 tiBuilt a better machine last year for under $600. Market is cooked
>>739593604People are totally oblivious as to how good it was
>>739560526>MFW THE JEWS SHUT DOWN ALL OF MY ELECTRONICS AND TRIED TO THROW ME IN JAIL FOR LIFE WITH AN NCR AND ARE TRYING TO TORMENT ME BUT THEYRE LOSING THEIR ENTIRE NEW WORLD ORDER
>>739586219Acktually found it much cheaper on Amazon.
>>739562376there's a business near me that fucking chucks these things all the time. when i noticed, i asked if i could just take them and the guy chucking them said>sure, why noti'm sitting on like 4 billion gbs of dinky ddr4 ram, and a butt load of i7s and i5s, with all kinds of random hdds and ssds. it's crazy how they just chuck them for no reason. i usually keep a few in my house as terminals to access my home network, or a streaming box, or just a random computer for anyone to use.
>>739563143has anyone called you a poor retard yet for getting a really nice pc, but not getting a 5090 giga nigga retard box for the cost of a car?
>>739563961>What's the goal here? for no one beside an extreme minority to be able to use things? how is this even viable monetary?whales. getting some people to fork over 10s of thousands of dollars consistently is better than getting everyone to fork over 60 once in a while. or 70. or 80. or whatever random 10 dollar increase we're gonna hit in 6 months because fuck you.
>>739562412The likelihood of the PS6 being able to play current day titles at 4k 60/120fps with ray tracing is really, really low. Consoles have just been PC's with inferior components for a couple of decades now as cost plays a massive part in what components will be in the final product.
>>739560526That's a scam
You can buy a powerful but affordable mid range pc if you spent just an hour looking through local listings and the 2nd hand market in general.
>>739563246>another recession, WWIII Well, you're already in WW3.NATO has been at war with Russia since 2022.Trump has been attempting to cut China off from their fuel suppliers, first Venezuela and most recently the Gulf states via the Strait of Hormuz. China and Russia are both supplying Iran with weapons, supplies and intel.The only reason it hasn't gone hot is because the only way the US can "defeat" the other side is by going nuclear.
That is an absurd price I think I built pic related for roughly that a year and a half ago.
I'm tech illiterate and don't care about new games. My last desktop was made in the 20th century and died during Obama's first term. Where can I get a PC with 2018-ish specs for a decent price?
>>739561665That's probably why it's cheapbut I'd rock a piss yellow PC in this market. not like anyone has to know
>>739560714Yeah, I bought my GTAV killer like 10 years ago for $900 and it came with a free keyboard and mouse from Dell.
>>739599948Probably 4060 laptop they're around 500-600 and can play practically everything on medium
>>739563109>He needs anything above DDR4LMAO RETARD. I'm still on DDR3 and there are no games that are suffering because of it.
>>739600286>They're at least 800 nowDidn't think the RAMpocalyse would hit them too. May as well build an am4 desktop at that price
>>739566248bully her for the LGBT lighting
>>7395606092 weeks of pay on minimum wage
>>739563858>better yet put your PC on the deskif you have space for your PC on your desk then you dont have enough monitors.
>>739563961>how is this even viable monetary?Because gamers/consumers were never the main market. Like people complain about Microsoft for example, not knowing that like 92% of their customer base are corporate, not your typical normalfags with a PC at home. Remember power companies arent supplying electricity to the regular grid anymore from next year, they're switching their supply directly to data centres because they make more money selling it to them than they do to random people. Shit has always been like this, but its just more noticeable now because everyone has a device in their pocket letting them record shady activity and post it for millions to see.
>>7395664471. $40/mo2. $800/mo3. Should've got a trade4. Learn to pirate5. Learn to pirate6. Learn to pirate7. Grow a fucking pair of balls and stop being a fag8. Govt pays for it9. If you cant afford to buy these things outright just dont buy them. TV is like $100, shoes are $20-30, a jacket is about the same. A good jacket and TV will last you 10+ years. Shoes is a fair expense, pretty normal to wear those out every 3-6 months.
>>739600286Trying to avoid laptops. I have a bad habit of getting drunk and dropping them until they cease to boot up.
>>739601443I broke a few laptops by hulk smashing them when losing in games.
>>739561462My CPU costs as much as this pissbox
>>739568267There are good modern games though
>>739560526If you buy prebuilts like the GoyMaxxx 9001 then of course you're gonna get ripped off. Pick the parts yourself, balancing future performance and price while avoiding gimmicky garbage like led rainbow lights.
>>739581490here you gohttps://www.indeed.com/I'm rooting for you!
>>739579239Are you stupid, do you understand the concept of a recurring subscription you pay every year?That's 500 EUR in just 4 years assuming they don't raise prices again (they probably will).And for what? Only to play online and get some old games for "free", even though you lose access the moment you stop paying.You have to be a retard to justify this.
>>739604884>some old games for freegames which released within the last 12 months. >You have to be a retard to justify this.Nobody has to justify anything. You're just losing your shit because you're too stupid to land a job which allows you to spend $10 per month. Keep screeching poorfag. Nobody cares what you think.
>>739605028At what point do you start caring you dumb goycattle? Let them charge 365 EUR per year, literally 1 EUR a day, even working minimum wage that's nothing, right?
>>739605102>the price of 2-3 games per year for 300+ games is a bad dealyou're a fucking retard
>>739567398I almost make this on a single weekend day (in Canadian dollars).
>>739605136Except when you buy those games you own them and can play them any time, you lose access to your PS+ games the moment your subscription runs out. And the games you get are of the same calibre as Epic give out for free every week. You'll still have to pay for GTA VI anyway.You're getting fleeced and you enjoy it.
>>739605393>b-b-but nobody cares about your cope you insufferable poorfag.
>>739605393
>>739605459>you're just poorThanks for proving my point you retard.
>>739605490>proving my pointYou don't have a point. Your whole thing is that $10 per month is too expensive for you and you'd rather buy a handful of games per year than get access to hundreds. Your entire point is based around you having no money while arguing towards the best outcome is the one where you get less for your money. You're a fucking retard. Your PC is probably shit too.
>>739586104It's cheaper once you account for inflation.
>>739605535>You don't have a point.I do, you I just told you you're getting fleeced and you enjoy it.>Your only retort is hurr durr you're poorI own a PC that's better than the PS5, and I own a PS5 hooked up to a 4k 120Hz OLED TV.It's not that I can't afford PS+, that was never the point but your dumb nigger brain is incapable of comprehending why someone would think 125 EUR per year is a bad deal. And so we go around in circles again "but it's only $10 per month" I already asked you, at what point do you think it becomes a bad deal? Even at 365 EUR/USD per year it's still just 1 EUR/USD per day, right? Is it still a good deal then? When you've waste enough money over the lifetime of the console that you could have just upgraded your PC?I expect another one sentence nigger-brain reply calling me poor.
>>739605737>you're getting fleeced and you enjoy it.I don't even notice the money leaving the bank account. The price of the monthly sub is so low it might as well be zero. >I own a PC that's better than the PS5So you're a poorfag. Holy shit. A PS5 was like a low end spec PC when it was launched and your defense is that you have a PC which is better. Funny as fuck. You're fucked. You can't afford the 10$ sub and you'll never be able to afford to upgrade your shit computer. >b-b-b-but if it were $1 It isn't $1. You're a fucking moron.
>>739605838Exactly the kind of 85 IQ response I expected, good job negro.
>>739605870>you're low IQ>But I'm the one who can't afford a good computer or $10 a month subguess which one I'd rather be
bought in '21 and somehow still going strong
>>739593065Solid build but that case is fugly.
>>739605884At no point in this entire exchange did you even understand the crux of the argument, all your replies are hurr durr I'm rich and you're poor.
>>739605535>You should buy worthless shit because you canEstrogenated mindset
>>739597302I wouldn't pay more than that much for a stripped down, throttled 5070, but if mobility is really that important then go for it.
>>739605962Your entire point is that you believe $10 is expensivelol
>>739605970I buy lots of worthless shit because I can.
>>739605947You have my sympathies friend
>>739605947>Intel Processor What kind of shit software is this?
>>739605995And that makes you effeminateCongratulations fag
>>739606034the poorfag cope is off the charts. what's it like being so fucking poor you're seething on the internet over $10 per month lol
>>739606029Dunno, this was a prebuilt
>>739606054So I take it that you have a vast collection of dildos because you can afford them?
>>739606102you have to be a paki if you can't help but switch to dildos while talking about video hardware prices.
>>739606147what's the matter, londonjeet, why are you drawing a line at dildos? you can afford them, so why not buy them?
>>739606208I hope your neighbours find out your a nonce and knock fuck out of you
>>739605983Only third worlders would be impressed by someone owning a PS5 and paying for PS+, might as well brag about owning an iPhone or something. Even if it's $10 a month it's still bad value for money and adds up to the point where you'd be much better off getting a PC and using the same money to upgrade it; 500 EUR/USD is a good GPU every 4 years. You get games on PC actually for free and you're not forced to keep paying lest you lose access to them. This isn't going to be the last price hike either, there will be more in the future, and no you're not going to get anything more. Sony is fucking you over and you're running damage control on their behalf for free, reflect on how pathetic that is.
>>739606223did you submit to your snoybox age check, londonjeet? reminder that you claimed anyone that wants to evade being surveilled is a pedoso what's your excuse for not buying dildos, are you poor?poor pedo londonjeet lmao
>>739606269I have a PC you stupid fuck
>>739560526>am5>ddr5>50XX gputhat is not a mid-range gaming PCjust cause the gpu isn't in the top tier it doesnt make the whole pc a mid-range PCan am4 ryzen 5 5600X + 16/32GB DDR4 RAM and any mid-hight 40XX nvidia/higher end 6000/lower end 7000 amd GPU will give you actual mid-range PC performance at less than 1000 dollars
>>739606279>this thing which stops pedos grooming kids is a bad thingyes it would be for you you fucking nonce. Anyway, don't reply to me. I don't speak to creatures
>>739560649>want money to buy cool stuff>get job to buy cool stuff>now no money to buy cool stuff and no timeebin!
>>739605983NTA, but even 5 cents is expensive for a service that is literally free on PCexpeinsive =/= unaffordableexpensive = costs more than it should
>>739560526I may have to compromise, but I'm still aiming for the OMEN line. I like the designs. Just not 50 series or its equivalents.
>>739606367so you submitted to the age verification check on on "your" snoybox right?
>>739606378The price of DDR5 has gone up a lot more than the price of some sub. lol
>>739606396I don't talk to pedos so fuck off
>>739560761usury is a sin anon
>>739606412but you're a pedo by your own definition since you're refusing to confirm that you submitted your id to the most hacked corporation on the planet
>>739606440just fuck off you nonce
>>739605947>>739606095you can probably install your actual cpu drivers/firmware and get a huge performance boost
>RTX 2000 series comes out>lol I'm not gonna upgrade>RTX 3000 series comes out>lol I'm not gonna upgrade>RTX 4000 series comes out>lol I'm not gonna upgrade>RTX 5000 series comes out>lol I'm not gonna upgrade>AI makes all parts prices shit the fan>AIEEEEEEEEEEE WHY IS EVERYTHING SO EXPENSIVE!Waitfags BTFO forever
>>739606458>s-stop bullying me for being a hypocrite that's a pedo by his own definitionnoif you don't want to be heckled like the waste of space that you are then either stop posting or improve your posts to the point where you can't be identified just based on their low quality and low iq
>>739606397cool, except you dont need DDR5and even then, a one time purchase of some 200-ish dollars and being able to play games online for years still beats having to pay several hundreds of dollars for years just to keep playing online
>>739561943>you have to sign a contract / agreement to rent which forbids you from modifying>shop checks the PC after you return it for damages and / or modifications>money wasted
>>739562376I so wish these didn't have proprietary motherboard form factors.
>>739606569>you don't need DDR5 you do when you're not a third worlder>$200 for DDR5for 8gb? Running a brower uses more than 8gb lol
The chinks are selling LGA 1151 mobos with DDR3 compatibility.
>>739564646>2k cash down>72 month termAre you mentally challenged?Who the fuck is this extremely retarded to do this shit?I bought my car almost 3 years ago, paid 17.1k down and financed 7k for 3 years, since that was my first loan they fucked me over with interest rates, but I still pay only 280.09€ per month and I'm not beholden to kikeman for a decade.Literally 4 more months and I will be debt free.
>>739561943>commit return fraud>TeLl Me WhY tHiS wOuLdN'T wOrKyou're a literal retard
>>739606653>It's bad when you do it but good when I do it
>>739606629>for 8gb?16
>>739560526>good cars cost up to 30-50k>PC cost 2k>NOOOOOOOO ECONOMYget a job
>>739606549>mprove your posts to the point where you can't be identifiedI've went into theads and seen you post "I know it's you LJ" to random anonsYou do it in every thread you fucking nonce. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uAi_FmOKMU
>>739606629>>739606698and then again, you dont NEED DDR5the entire thread is about a mid-range PC, you don't need the latest and fastest hardware for that
>>739560526What's the problem, if you aren't a low iq normie you need a computer at home anyway, then you add like 200 dollars to get a more poweful card.
>>739606569>just to keep playing onlineYou lose access to your PS+ library too if you stop playing btwIn any case being proud of spending money on useless and overpriced shit is the most nigger/pajeet-tier behaviour, literally izzat farming. Meanwhile every day when I open steam there's 2-3 games for $0 listed in the store yesterday it was some Car Mechanic Simulator game, I've collected so many games it's getting annoying to browse my library without filtering it first.
>>739606748Why would you stop paying the sub if you're using the console?
>>739560526Is anyone else gonna point out OP posted this screenshot like it's the only PC available anywhere online and this is the definitive price? What a retard. OP probably thought he was so smart when he made this thread.
>>739606731such as? feel free to point to cases where it wasn't you, londonjeethttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/londonjeet/why are you avoiding the question, londonjeet?reminder that you're a pedo by your own definition since you're refusing to confirm that you submitted your id to the most hacked corporation on the planet
>>739606807>you should go and search for it I've seen you do it. You did it the other day even. I laughed when I seen it but couldn't be arsed with you, You literally admitted to having CP in another thread you fucking nonce.
>>739606846that's a funny amount of claims with zero evidencemeanwhile your resistance to identifying yourself to sony is evidence by your own definition, you lost londonjeet
>>739606868you're just desperate for attention aren't you.
>>739565869I just realized there's going to be a million of these for GTA VI later this year lol
>>739606893but that's your entire existence, londonjeetyou're too stupid to actually discuss ideas so you must brag about the hardware you got by leeching off the taxpayer and call every non-parasite poor
>>739587879NTAbut, why? I got one
>>739606949>no you no youI've not mentioned any hardware I have in this thread. what are you on about. I like the way you keep on acting out the words to my song. Just a poorfag pedo, lonely as fuck and completely seething that you have a shit PC. It must keep you awake at night.
>>739607002but you do, londonjeet, consoles? what the fuck do you think they are?they're the equivalent of dildos for many people here, worthless garbage that only serves to broadcast your tasteless faggotry yet you brag about "owning" themreminder you're a pedo by your own definition for not submitting to snoy's age verification
>>739607079I've not received any age verification. You don't have age verification when the account holder matches the name on the bank details you supply for purchases. You've already proven your age. You stupid fuck
>>739560526>1TB SSDsimply gross. your drive will be clogged up in no time especially if you have windows installed which 99% of prebuilt PCs areas a prebuilt fag who overspent too much on my current PC you're getting utterly ripped off by 1TB, 2TB is the bare minimum unless you decide on buying an external drive that doesn't make your games run like utter dogshit
>>739607114>You can verify your age by selecting a method that suits you in the age verification flow. You have several options for verification, including mobile number, facial scan, or ID. Verification methods are provided by our service provider, Yoti. nice try londonjeeta card is not enough, especially for snoy
>>7396072871TB even on Windows is a lot better than the same on console at least.But it requires a bit of knowledge to clean Windows and fee up space, you can even reduce the size of some games with no ill effects, for example Uncharted 4 has about 30GB of audio files for languages other than English etc.
>>739607362i just got an external SSD asap and zipped any important files i didn't need. atleast my PC came with 2TB until prices went to shit.i got lucky i got my RAM for a little over 100$ before the prices skyrocketed
>>739607287>tfw got 64gb ddr5>tfw I only get 2tb minimum nowcomfy. only concern is needing replacement in case they suddenly die.
>>739607498>>739607676It's always a good idea to free up some of the space that Windows is wasting. Run cmd as admin and paste:powercfg -h offThis disables hibernation, instantly freeing up several GB.Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup /ResetBaseThis cleans up the WinSXS folderNavigate to these locations and delete everything, it's installation files for updates that windows keeps stored even after installing the updates:C:\Windows\servicing\LCUC:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\DownloadEnable OS file compression, the feature is called Compact OS, pic related, there's practically no downside on a modern SSD.
>>739607676HDDs last forever if they're not used so just put your photos and porn on them.
>>739607741With the exception of hibernation files, I've done all those. I just have like a trillion files because of AI and the 2nd drive is for games and mods.
>>739607741thanks for the advice anon, i'll look into it
>>739607808>>739607818Also you should install WizTree and look for files/directories you didn't know you even had. If you ever had a blue screen or crash there might be a large 2-3GB memory dump file stored in the Windows directory. PatchCleaner cleans orphaned files from the Windows/Installer directory, depending on how old your install is it can be very helpful.
>>739563961Yea,like wtf.Games like Expedition 33 that shouldn't be flopping are flopping hard at 140k max players because of system requirements alone.
>>739560761Ah yes, the burger solution>just get into debt bro
>>739606772why would you pay it when you can have it for free on pc cause you're not supposed to pay for it in the first place?
