Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones for Nintendo Game Boy Advance
There should be more brother-sister pairings in vidya
I can't wait to sell Eirika into sexual slavery
Gilliam won
>>739570381Now that the UK is turning authoritarian about stuff like this, the window of opportunity is over. But I would've liked to see a follow-up to BotW where Zelda is Link's hot sister.
>>739568646Bishops getting Slayer is a nice boost to what's otherwise the perennial worst weapon type in the series. They should have kept this going forwards, Bishops get effective damage using light magic against anything that's not human.
>promoted everyone to cavalry>get to Eirika's desert mapThis will be fun.>>739570408Here's hoping.
is there a fixed growth mod for awakening? the only thing I can find looks hard to install.
>>739571307Theres only 6 tiles to cross in the center.
>>739572539her cock?
>>739572968Would be bigger or smaller than Ephraim’s?
Marriage with Marianne!>>739571307I can’t wait for their harmonic.
>>739573139everyone knows that dick size in FE is correlated to your Luck stat, so Eirika's is bigger
>>739573332Bets on whether IS backpacks Marianne?
Eirika is very cute but I will always see her as a bimbo because of the scene where she's like "yeah sure i'll give you this super special important thing even though you've shown you aren't trustable due to being manipulated"
>>739573427>Tharja insists in one of her supports that Plegian women's garb is functional and not at all revealing
>>739573496They at least foreshadowed that moment, and justified it by her knowing that the stones could heal people (admittedly, from Lyon).She's not quite a bimbo like Celica, and she's at least better than "I never pick a fight I can't win" Ephraim who just walks up and gets punched once by Lyon.
>>739573620Plegian women are sluts. It's that simple.Also something something less armor and more skin touching the air gives better magic power.
>>739573774>Plegian women are sluts. It's that simple.Hmm, our sample size on that is Tharja, Aversa, Robin, Noire, and Morgan, so evidence is pointing to yes
>>739573964Going by outfits, Olivia is also most likely Plegian. She's just not evil.
We know that Eirika and Celica might not be the brightest, but we shouldn't forget about our "blood pact" girl either
>>739574078maybe, all she says about her life before being Basilio's personal Dancer was being part of a travelling theater group, so she could be from anywhere on the continent
>>739574197The blood pact stuff genuinely wasn't her fault, though.Yes, she's a complete Mary Sue insufferable cunt pedophile, but she's not the one that signed the blood pact.
>>739574370Even if true, I don't know if that makes it worse desu. Especially when the game still tries to excuse and sweep under the rug all the bad things she does during that time. Like, you know, try to burn Sanaki alive. The kind of shit you'd see Arvis or Edelgard (actual villains) doing without a second thought
>>739573496That's just her having a woman moment
>>739575414Micaiah does almost everything wrong. But the blood pact being transferred to her isn't something she's at fault for. There's no way to have known that killing Pelleas wouldn't end the contract.
Miciah is a fascinating character, in a way.I have to wonder if she was written the way she was, because they knew Ike was the real main character anyways, so they could do more "experimental" things with her, knowing no matter how badly she fumbled, Ike could slam this dunk in the second half just fine.Or if Ike wasn't actually supposed to completely steal the main character spotlight from her, but they realized they had accidentally made a completely unlikable cunt of a main character, and it was too late to rewrite anythibg big picture, so just panic and make her drop from relevance and have Ike do all the shit she was supposed to for endgame.
>>739571193This doesn't really work because it's one of those things that's either useless, or it completely invalidates other magic types. Bishop is already objectively superior to all promotion alternatives because of Slayer in FE8. It's not really balanced well at all.
>>739577108She had to be on equal footing with Ike, as a rival or counterpart.But the issue is that Ike had like 30 chapters to build up, while Micaiah's entire story had to be crammed into 10 chapters. So she needs to accomplish everything and more than he did in 1/3rd of the time.
>>739577165Considering Sacred Stones has entirely non-human enemies for the last third of the game, while most Fire Emblem games have a few non-human enemies across them, except the map that's Oops All Wyverns or whatever, I think it ends up being much more balanced in any other title.And it would have improved Awakening, fates, and Engage by making the developers use more alternatives to ugly, stinky red zombie men.
>>739577657I hate the whole "generic zombie enemy" thing they've been doing since Awakening. Although at least Fates had a few more monster types. Ideally though, I want a Fire Emblem game where the monsters are sentient for once because they're never as interesting as fighting human factions even in games like Echoes where there's more variety than zombies.
If you're truly good at FE, why have you never beat FE8 on easy or normal mode?
what did they mean by this what did they mean by this what did they mean by this what did they mean by this what did they mean by this
>>739578184Skinship is grorious nippon curture
>>739578184
>>739568646The black sheep of the family. The one nobody really paid attention to. And yet it had several based characters and a fun little story going for it.
>>739568646Tried posting about it in a thread that died a few days ago, but I just finished an ironman of this game.Had a lot of fun, my only deaths were Moulder, Kyle, Tana, and Seth.To make it more interesting, I used some units that most players bench without a second thought, so I tried using Neimi, Gilliam, and Garcia.Neimi was shit, Gilliam was alright but fell off because he somehow only had 15 Def as a General, but the real standout was Garcia. The guy got blessed with so many Spd levels that I ended up giving him a Speedwing to keep him doubling for the whole game. And yet he still ended up being worse than Gerik.
>>739578594Until FE devs grow some balls and stop giving the player units to not softlock a save a lot of low level units won't be worth leveling if all someone cares is min maxing exp distribution to the best units to stomp the game
>>739568646Sacred Stones, my childhood game
I really enjoyed the tower. It gave something for my b-team/reserves to do.
>>739581079
>>739581291Pretty.
>>739581408Indeed.
>still no romhack with steamingtofu's sprites
>>739581079Their brothers are so lucky...
Hey anons. It's my first time playing 3 Houses. Who do you think is the best girl in your opinion?
>>739582453Camilla!
>>739582453Did someone do a whole demake of 3H?
>>739568646boomer emblem was never good
>>739583192This is millenial emblem though
>>739578594Garcia is proof that most people are kinda idiots regarding units, and talk out of their ass more than anything. Garcia is a "good mercenary" disguised as an axebro, and everyone immediately thinks he's shit as a result of that disguise.It also takes nearly the entire game babying Ross for him to start pulling ahead of Garcia in anything notable.
>>739583885>"good mercenary">7 spd 20% growthNo Garcia is just shit dude I don't know what to tell you. Not everything has to be some hidden gem that the masses simply don't know about. Some units are just bad, and it's obvious why they're bad.
>>739583192>>739583724
>>739583885it's pretty simplegarcia is good when the game is at its easiest and bad when the game gets harderross is bad when the game is easy and good when the game is harder It's more satisfying seeing a trainee unit eventually get really good than a good unit fall off hardAlso, garcia is shit
>>739583885Most of the time, my Ross pulls ahead instantly. Only this last run did I have trouble with him, and just abandon him entirely since I was babying other units.
>>739584367This, who the fuck gives a shit that Garcia can kill the most worthless enemies in the game?
>>739584294Where do the musou spinoff FEs go
>>739582453Mercedes or Lysithea
>>739570408I can't wait to buy her and use her as a standby ball-emptier
>>739585142In the category Smash goes."FE Tourists"
>>739584294Tell me about the saga games anons.
FUYCJI had no idea..I just assumed whenever someone mentioned "get x y z skill that costs 2000 5000" it meant I had to grind picking up sommieshit and farm grind maps just to prop a favorite character up.This literally solves everything..Was it always this easy?How early in the chapters would I have been able to click achievements and just insta buy everything a team needed?
>>739585641
>get towards the end of Scorched Sand>suddenly remember that this is a desert chapter in an FE game and that I didn't bring any thieves to pick up the treasure>alright whatever, restart, this chapter was kind of easy anyways>beat Valter and end the mission>"huh, so I guess that arc is done, but the Cormag subplot never picked up again, I wonder when he's gonna show up">look it up>I beat Hamill Canyon so fast that Cormag never got a chance to spawn, locking me out of getting him forevergroans of increasing discomfort
>>739586998My Joshua died right at the end of Hamill Canyon, which is right before his only relevant scene.I didn't even know he could die. I assumed it was like Innes.
>>739586998it's really pathetic that twitter faggot artists lazily edit a meme then slap a watermark on it.
>>739583885Too many GBA units start off at a disgustingly low level. Garcia is supposed to be some war vet, but he's level fucking 4? He'd have been a lot better as a plug-and-chug kind of guy if he was level 9-10.
>>739585641Are you saying you've been playing Engage since 2023 and you didn't know this? Goddamn lol.
>>739587731I just assume he's out of practice. Like he was a war vet from 20 years ago, not last year.
>fate of ophelia lost the american music choice award to fucking kpop shit
>>739584294>Zoomers saved Fire EmblemDamn I love zoomers now?!?
>>739568646incest
>>7395842943H is too old to be gen alpha emblem
>>739588792Not really. Gen Alpha is old enough to have played 3H as their first FE the same age I was when I first played FE7.
>>739568646Still the best Fire Emblem.
>>739583885Garcia is slow as fuck and there's no reason to use him. Anon getting blessed with speed levels doesn't prove shit.
Becca
>>739568646
>>739590767Younger
>>739568646https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm4TzZdnENw
>Ephraim rejoins with Duessel and Knoll>Knoll immediately diesHe better have left that Master Seal in my storage.
Seth
is
a
FAGGOT
>>739592982-killer
>>739592982-lover
>>739593142Fujo emblem
Games with broken characters like Seth?
>>739593226Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
>>739593226Sigurd is Seth if Seth was your main Lord.Titania is ALMOST as busted as Seth but not quite there.Same with Frederick, almost there but not quite.
>>739593172
>>739593172>2009Those are archaic pre-awakening fujos. Probably long gone by now.
>>739592982-maker
>>739568646>split promo systemAlways admired, never surpassed
Greens
>>739593485Nina sexo>>739593616I remember when looking for ancient FE art art I came across a whole site mostly dedicated to ike x soren stuff. I do wonder if any real oldfag nips are still a fan of FE or just tapped out
Okay hear me out. What if Jagen.... But he canonically and avoidably dies like 7-8 chapters in.
>>739594046Jagen fell off...literally...
What if Jagen... but he was bad
>>739594857Gunter vander
>tossing Colm around to gather treasures>accidentally place Cormag in the very tippy top of the Devil Axe guy's range>lose CormagFUCK.
>this is the easiest fire emblem btw
>>739594046Shadow Dragon prologue if you pick Jagen as the sacrifice
>>739594046does sigurd count?
>>739594046Gunter?
>>739594857Most Jagens are bad, geriatic cocksuckers need not apply.
Handholding with Vanaheim Titania.
Honest thoughts on troubadours?
>>739595894Beautiful redheads...
>>739596189Why are they always bratty?
>>739596232To justify why every npc automatically targets them first.
I recently did an Ironman of SS Eirika Hard. My first Ironman (outside of playing on the relays last year). An absolute massacre. I lost Colm, Vanessa, Neimi, Forde, Cormag, Seth, Dozla, Garcia, Marisa, L'Arachel, Ross, Franz, Amelia, Rennac, Lute and the Boulder (not in that order). I have been playing FE since forever and being SS I thought it would be ezpz, but it turns out I'm pretty shit at this. I still had fun though, letting go of my completionist autism and moving on despite the loses was a refreshing way of playing the game.Now I'm going through Vision Quest Ironman. I dropped it back in the day but going Ironman this time it's been fun. Thanks for reading my blog.
>>739596667Looting Lute's lewds!
>>739568646It's alright. I think I might've made a post about it before, but I replayed it a few years back, maybe 2 or so, after initially playing it over 10 years prior in highschool. It's... a very basic FE game, with some of the outdated trappings of the older titles with limited support convos available, uninteresting villains and lords, etc. Ephraim is alright, not the best, not the worst. But the game lacks a lot of personality and individuality. It's as safe as can be, and in a series that already does so with reusing archetypes out the ass, that just makes it look worse. The story is barebones, with both story modes being different stories entirely instead of two perspectives, something that would be rectified in the Gaiden remake. The Ephraim story is a bit better written but both are still underwhelming. The story also suffers a lot from a lack of visuals and intricate writing, and just kind of goes along without feeling like anything significant really happens for most of it. This isn't to mention the support convos being inconsistent with some being gags, others being dubiously canon or contradictory to one another, and some being outright worthless.Soundtrack is okay. Not a lot of memorable tracks. Sprite art is decent, a lot of people glaze the animation, which it's good, but after a while you became bored with it and realize just how unexpressive the game truly is in the long run, though that mainly goes for all three GBA titles. Oh, and don't get me started about the "post game" and the grinding, both of which are separate issues. It's okay. There are worse games to play. Worth at least 1 playthrough if you're morbidly curious or a blooming diehard.6/10.
>>739596792I'd just fuck her and say it's for science.Same with kissing her tongue and biting her asscheeks.
Whatever happened to the strong silent archetype like Ogma? Mercenaries these days are bitch made.
>>739584294The Alpha Emblem is the worst emblem btw
>>739596667Lute has 3 con, she should be thin and tiny.
>>739597526They can't be silent because they have to yap a lot in the 50 support conversations per character modern FE has.
>>739597591Con is waist for women.Res is hips and ass.Obviously, subtract the horse if they have one.
>>739597526Maybe one of the new dudes will fit the archetype
>>739570408This but making her into the receptionist at my very busy company starting at minimum wage
>>739593616I joined during Awakening but didn't het into boys' love until I was deep in my teenage years when Fates came out
>>739598014that's worse than slavery
>>739597526Gregor was an Oguma. If anything, the main thing holding back the archetype in recent games is that the merc class gets shafted.>AwakeningGregor is the standard merc, while the children mercs are non standard mercs.>FatesIt imports its mercs from the children in Awakening and has Soleil copy her father's gimmick but worse. >3HIt has Byleth ig, but even that barely counts since the merc class gets shafted by being a weird tier 2 intermediate for swordies. The game also straight up pretends that Hero doesn't exist as a class.>EngageMerc isn't a class, and the only Hero is Goldmary who replaces gigachad energy with gigastacy energy.
In honor of Memorial Day (or the last 2 hours of it left at least), what was the saddest or most important/most run-crippling unit death you've ever had in a playthrough.
>>739598768One time corrin died and lost my ironman. Stupid bitch
>>739598768when sigurd got cucked to death. I wonder if japs playing the game when it first came out knew about the second generation from magazines and shit or if it was a surprise like raiden in mgs2.
>>739598768Lost Camilla who was carrying my lunatic iron man run on Fugas wild ride and never ended actually finishing the playthrough
>>739584294What the hell even is Shadows?
For me, it’s silly little guy units who are secretly powerful.
>>739599120Nobody knows. Somebody would have to actually play it to find out.
>>739599524FW will show that they're secret lovers and fuck every night
Take a load off Guy, relax!
>For me, it’s silly little guy units who are secretly powerful
>>739600462
Hey. Does anyone want to see my unit?
Just beat Engage, and honestly... Honestly? It is way overhated. Yea the main plot is simple, almost childish (as if it isn't just the exact same plot of every single other FE game), but the worst slander it gets are the characters and world. There is a lot, lot to unpack. I literally have just been turning it over in my head for like 30 minutes now. I almost want to do one of those autistic 2 hour video essays just going over everything.
(lol, this retard got off the ballista on turn 1 and can't get back to it.
>>739600687>I almost want to do one of those autistic 2 hour video essays just going over everythingDo it
>>739600583Need Beavis in a Cornholio-themed mage outfit going 'FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! FIRE!'
Eirika’s skirt is really short
>>739601458She's bad
>>739585358Idk enough about Berwick and Vestaria Saga, but Tear Ring is fun for a first run. Most say Vestaria is kinda weighed down from the SRPG Maker engine and the obvious lower budget (using a lot of premade SRPG Maker assets and reusing old assets Kaga had left over from TRS and Berwick).
>>739597937I hope that gun nun is a major character, she looks like the kind of character I would blow my load of ammunition for.
>>739602530I really want to throw coins into Camilla's boobs
>>739602530Gunnun
>>739602454I thought it was Yunaka just by scrolling around
hi hi
>the creature is here
>>739585358TRS and Vestaria are basically just FE games under a different name. Play Berwick only if you're hungry for more Kaga kino.
is radiant dawn hard even worth it? sounds like a pain in the ass to be honest. should i do transfers?
>>739568646Got it right here
>>739604046>pink phoneFemanon, please PLEASE post your brightest smile
>>739604068that's a DSi, Nino
>>739604143The original fold phone
>>739604023Just use the patch that restores WT and enemy ranges
I love Engage Warrior tummies.
Besides seth, who are the good jagens in fire emblem? I know my boy is in his own tier, but does anyone else come close?
>>739596189sex
>>739604923
>young child weighs more than sage lute
>>739605107It's his fat nuts weighing him down
>>739568646I actually think this is the most overrated and overprotected FE game in the seriesThe world is a nothingburger and the plot is the classic demon king is evil stuff. Lyon is the only saving grace / unique in this game.Map design is just a better version of gaiden but without the setting and sense of adventure that Gaiden has.
>>739597001Most honest review I've seen of this dogshit game
>>739597001Agree
>>739604023I played it without transfers and loved it. It was too hard on normal.
You can't really have too much fun on radiant dawn hard mode because it nerfs XP gain and bonus XP to the ground so using funny bad units like meg or fiona goes from a bad idea to nearly impossible without extremely degenerate grinding.
>>739587731I think he should have been a level 1 Warrior with good strength and weapon ranks, good bulk for early game, and not much else.
Is RD Haar better than Seth?
>>739608840>doesn't have perfect availabilityno
Lewd otome shenangians with big hands Seth.The incest option in an Ephraim harem series.Valter's mindbroken sex slave in a rapey scenario.All work perfectly. Very few FE heroines are as flexible as Eirika. She just werks.
>>739603298Myrhh is underrated and thirsty for bbc (big brother cock)
>>739570302>Hottest and most capable pair of noble siblings in the continent who everyone in story wants to fuck>People would rather they sort of guck each other instead of spreading their perfection to the other nationsThe Renais twins are for marrying the other royals (or dragons/ sages) to create the perfect kingdom, not for incest.
I started playing this romhack and its one of the best fe experiences I've ever had so far
>>739612570It sucks
>>739604682FE7 Marcus is Seth-tier mostly because that game is much more hostile to training scrimblos. You legit do not get another character at his level until an early-promoted Raven or Hawkeye. I would argue he's actually more of a necessary crutch than Seth is.
>>739612627Seth isn't really a crutch since the rest of the army is strong enough to not need his help, even if he could demolish everything. Marcus in both FE6 and FE7 is a crutch because the rest of the army simply cannot deal with the maps without him carrying them.
>>739612840I beat fe7 when I was 10 years old without ever using Marcus
>>739609618You forgot>Broken childhood friend with Lyon>Tsundere male prince Innes>Even male teacher Saleh somewhat worksThe only pairing of hers that is bland is Forde, but she was always envisioned as the perfect otome protagonist.>
>>739612894Me too, then I was skeptical he was good but I read on the internet that he could practically solo the game so I tried it out and got pretty far and had to concede that he was good. I still don't use him much in FE7, FE6 is another story, I use Seth and Titania though.
It's amazing how people still flock to these GBAemblems from 20+ years ago. Truly masterpieces.
>>739612894He's not as required as he is in FE6 but he's still the best unit you have by far early and he can make HHM a much simpler experience.
>>739612627>RavenMarcus and Oswin are the early game crutches for new players. Raven has iffy bulk and bad luck, so while is offense is good, a newbie can easily over extend and get him killed.
>>739613128Just baby Raven for 3 chapters and he's good to go.
>>739578258This is fake and gay
>>739613109I would say he's similarly required? Pirate ship sounds like hell without him.
>>739612627>at his level>HawkeyeWell, the one thing Marcus and Hawkeye have in common is being slow.
>>739613287False Friends and Merlinius Gaiden are the only maps where I feel like I need him. Even then need is a strong word but he makes it much more reliable.
>>739613769I'm confused is that supposed to make him look bad?
>>739614594It helps with context. If he wasn't a slow fuck, he would've killed both those wyverns on the enemy phase with a ORKO like I expected him to.
>>739614340Talons Alight and Pirate ship force you to lean on him pretty damn hard as well. For FE6 Marcus 4 and 7 are the only maps he feels essential for.
>>739612840How is that any different from FE8 where the first character you get that's even slightly comparable to Seth is Duessel?
>>739614880Duessel joins on ch 10, while Hawkeye joins on like the 16th chapter of Hector mode.
L'Arachel's luscious tits
>>739615019Duessel joins on 10/22 (and Saleh joins on 12/22)Hawkeye joins on 23/34 so if we delete Lyn Mode, he joins on 12/23
>>739615158FE7 has actual gaiden chapters. There are are 3 them up to that point not counting 19xx.
>>739613769These "Marcus slow" images are always funny because they always end up making him look good anyway. You need 15 AS to double Wyverns here if they highroll their growth. This is not a trivial threshold. Sain, Lowen, and even Kent aren't guaranteed to be that fast without some help. A few characters like Raven and Guy (lol) easily reach it but most would need a pretty significant amount of investment to clear it with room to spare. Pegasisters reach it but are noodle-armed.Units are to be evaluated in the context of their game.
>>739614880Because the enemies are weak enough to not need to use Seth if you don't want to and you don't lose much for not using him if you level up properly.Meanwhile not using Marcus is possible but it's much more frustrating so you do need him as a crutch.
>>739615362Watch out he's gonna post his 20/20 Rebecca's status screen now to epically own the Marcustards
>>739615362Marcus is so good.
>>739615362You know who had 15 speed by that map? Geitz.
>>739615736The funny thing is, even Geitz might not reach it unless you scan scrimblo a few levels in him beforehand. 14 base 40 growth is not a guarantee. He's also the most expensive character to recruit in the game by far lol.
>>739595894>>739596219>"What if Seth but girl?"
>>739615849If you want a hyper-expensive axefag with good speed I don't know why you wouldn't just use Dart. He's in a better class, too.
>>739615964It's always one or the other with you. Why not both?
>>739616165>Why not both?Because this is FE7 and you have like 8 deployment slots
>>739609718Myrhh is the the the oldest thing on the continent. Kinda weird how she's larping as a little girl to entrap innocent young men into protecting her.
>Guy (lol)I was curious, so I checked. 20/8 Guy could kill those wyverns with highest rolled HP/DEF with a lancereaver and Matthew/Priscilla B supports.
>>739616329That's fair, this is why I quit HHM last time around I think, it's just gay and never changes.
Playing birthright and the game just crashed on the final boss. Not even the first hit of the final boss, it crashed right before ryouma could deliver the finishing blow. Now I have to play 27 again.
>>739616478HHM's deployment nerf is very lame.Only played that mode once in 2005 and never again touched it.
>>739615362Guy is actually not that bad all things considered in HHM.>>739615357Prisoner of Magic is a joke and barely counts as a map.
>>739616329True, that's why I hate it. No Fun Allowed Emblem.
>ryouma
>>739615897Good.
>>739607112>i cant use cancer shitters so its not fun
fav fire emblem ever
>>739618834>Hag (>25 years old)>Shaved
truth nuke
>>739619663Fire Emblem: Monshou no Nazo
>>739620127To be fair. She's 30.
>>739619663Andaron Saga
I need to use Mist as a cum dumpster
>>739620157I don't even know what this person means. It feels like they're complaining about the ability to reclass infinitely in Engage, but that wasn't the issue with its class system, like at all. The real problem is open reclassing, i.e. that any unit can be any class trivially.
>>739620224>Tiamat>Mother of the Gods in mesopotamian mythology>Dried up hag in the gamesAt least she has the whole tardwrangler gimmick within the Greil mercs, making her somewhat motherlike.
Titania peeing on me
>>739620614I'm fine with open reclassing personally. Getting to freely customize classes makes it very replayable if you're not a metaslave, and the existence of canonical classes allows you to play with a standard intended team.Granted, I personally prefer Fates' reclassing being interwoven with gameplay, but both systems have their merits desu.
>>739609618>Lewd otome shenangians with big hands Seth.Oh wow, now that you put it that way, Seth really is just the quintessential tall and brooding otome love interest huh.>>739612941Lyon is 100% the soft-spoken and cutesy "pitiful loser" love interest that's secretly batshit insane and turbo yandere needy.
>>739620845I don't see the "metaslave" angle you guys constantly bring up. If you can trivially reclass to whatever you want and one option is outright worse than another in all cases, why would you pick it? Just to look at the animations?
>>739620845It's not about being a metaslave, Engage just had a really boring, bloated class system. They bragged about how it has the most classes in the series but a lot of them are weapon-rank variants of the same class. Classes like Bow Knight and Sniper and Swordmaster are strictly inferior to stronger options, so unless you just like the visuals of the classes that much, there's no solid gameplay reason to pick them. It's kind of like an extreme version of Sacred Stones's split promotion system really, where one choice clearly mogs the other.>>739621020This
>>739621152>SniperSniper actually has value in LTC applications so strictly inferior is incorrect, especially since the alternative is being locked into Thief which is a class that you generally want to leave instead of stay.
The point of picking the worse class on purpose is so you can be a contrarian and gloat online about how cool you are because you don't play like the others
>>739621653>LTCSo nothing of importance or value. True chads use whoever they want in whichever class they want
>>739621734Like this guy >>739621792
>>739620418Boyd...
>>739617443>>739620157An anon ranted about this recently, but Guy is the kind of unit that would have a much warmer reception in a reclass emblem game, because he is the very typical 'good unit' stuck in a shit class. Stat-wise he can easily go toe-to-toe with other good units, plus he has a good affinity, yet it's wasted on FE7's shit SM class.
True chads use the canon class line for the character. Anything else is playing on easy mode.Here's Idunn in a swimsuit.
>>739621653>Sniper actually has value in LTC applicationsCome on now, anonYou're obviusly talking about Covert Astra Storm anyway, and you already have 2 base Thieves. So even in its highly artificial "niche," the class is not actually good or unique.
>>739621941You think her labia have one purple and one green too?
>>739621889Guy is just Rutger. That's it. You don't even need a reclass game to make him useful, you just need to put him in FE6. Conversely, Rutger would be shit in FE7.
>>739622008No, bodyparts like that match the lips, not the eyes.So like her nipples would match the lips. And if you want them to also be the violet and green colors, you need to get her to wear nipple piercings.
>>739621971Yunaka and Zelkov are completely useless at things outside of Covert Astra Storm and do 0 damage while they're at it, so they are worse than using an actual archer.Same goes for Covert Instruct for +5 Spd.
Any good romhacks?
>>739622137And an Archer is completely useless, period (lolNobody is buying the "ackchully Engage archers see use in LTC" bit.
>>739622184Cerulean Crescent
>>739621152>where one choice clearly mogs the otherPeople act like this is the case, but it really isn't. It actually is a tough choice for a lot of promo paths in FE8 when you seriously get down to the nitty gritty details. The problem is that FE8 is such a piss easy game, it doesn't really matter if you pick the 'optimal' promo anyway.
>>739622184Shadow of Dawn, skip the first game
>>739622184Not this one >>739622279
>>739622252>NobodySpeak for yourself retard.
>>739622321I can't think of any character other than Gerik where it's even a real consideration
>>739622425Describe where archers save turns in Engage or you have no argument.
>people still arguing about meta in a 20 year old piss easy game you can play blindfolded using all the worst units on negative growthserm
>>739622470Post your run where you did that
>>739622321What exactly are the "nitty gritty details" of picking Bishop over Sage lol?
>>739621971Thieves can't use the Radiant bow for Astra Storm. I dunno how you could possibly think Engage's class system is bad just because there are a few 'redundant' ones. The class types system is fantastic, and I hope they build on that idea in future games.
Yunaka's ass
>>739622601Lol
Just play Lost Eidolons, it does everything better than Fire Emblem like no doubling, guaranteed hits with damage reduction instead of missing, less swingy crits, and better weapon triangle alternative.
>>739622469>Alcryst and Etie get deployed in 0% LTC Chapter 8>Non 0 damage astra storms in the second half while also aggroing the boss or generally just weakening targets at a distance for someone else to clear and free up space as shownhttps://youtu.be/xpgbSpJXoOohttps://youtu.be/D3I1NCD-kyIThere's more but w/e
>it does everything better than Fire Emblem like no doubling
>>739622671>like no doublingWho dislikes doubling? Are you insane?
>>739622601>Thieves can't use the Radiant bow for Astra StormI'm having trouble seeing the relevance. This is always the counterargument to criticism of Engage's class system - someone reaching super hard to find something "important" and "unique" that an underused class can do that isn't actually impactful, like Paladin having A+ weapons or whatever.Engage's class system is bad because have to go blue in the face to think up scenarios where it makes sense to pick an Archer over a Warrior or a Thief.Most games solved this issue in an elegant, intuitive way by forcing the choice - you either can't reclass, or if you can reclass, your options are limited.Open reclassing fucking blows.
>>739622763>>739622786Kaga was right when he made pursuit a limited skillDoubling imposes too many design constraints on stats and units, and promotes homogenization
>Neimi dumped Colm because he was such an idiot>Opened an archery school to teach rookies how to hit shit at 200 metersok that's badass.
>>739622713I'm asking you to show where they save turns, not where they're deployed. Boucheron has probably been deployed in somebody's LTC too, doesn't mean he did anything irreplaceably important.
>>739622878No it just made anyone without pursuit shit and not worth trying to fight with, mainly.
>>739622969>Show a literal example>uh it doesnt countLol lmao even
>>739622184Code of the Black Knights.
>>739622184FE8 self randomizer. Illusory dungeon. Morrows golden troonslop. Tacthack
>>739622837You're so adamant about things you dont understand. Cute
>>739622837>or whateverPlease, just shut the fuck up and stop arguing if all you're ever going to do is reduce it to 'hurr durr nothing matters'. There are lots of minor differences between Engage classes that matter that you refuse to acknowledge. I bet you don't even know that Sniper has a skill that gives it de facto player phase crit+10.
>>739623468>Morrows golden troonslopI was barely tolerating this hack until the party switch to the reddit squad and dropped it there.
Mist pee
>>739623540Biggest cope of all time just dropped
>>739623592You think she pees mist? Like, urethra is so small that it just vaporizes the pee into a cloud?
Do you love your sister?
>>739623540Its the same bronze forge sperg
>>739623626>Arguments found: 0Concession: accepted.
>>739623415>minor differences that matterlolOf course you are a retarded Yukakafag, too.People want classes to feel special and at least somewhat exclusive, not whatever the fuck Engage did. Engage is full low-impact "differences" that don't really do anything, and shot itself in the foot by making everything so customizable and open at the granular level. That's why you don't see anybody who is actually into the game making Etie a Sniper - it's always Warrior.I'm not going to lie about what the game incentivizes to make you feel better, so deal with it.
>>739622878Kaga himself didn't even keep that mechanic you moron. It was dogshit.
WarriorWolf knightGriffon SageMage knightThats all you need to beat engage and everything else is suboptimal
>>739623865>>739623540this response is for both of you coping fags, actually
>>739623898>wolf shite
Wonder how many times these guys have had this exact same argument in just this year
>>739621889This line of thinking is so flawed to me. If you like Guy, then you'll use him and make him work. Who cares that you aren't using his statline optimally or something, is everybody who plays FE a metafag now?
>>739623509Yeah yeah, you did 20 damage with Citrinne Astra Storm. You're super fucken smart, moron. Breaking the game in unheard of ways.
>>739622184Andarron Saga but wait for the definitive edition.It was made by a bunch of annoying youtubers and the early writing (when they treated it as more of a joke) has a lot of Marvel tier dialogue.Game is good though and they are doing a revised version which adds alternate B routes for some chapters people thought were slow and redoing dialogue. It's about as good as a romhack made by amateurs can reasonably be
>>739623865>>739623932I understand that you're too retarded to actually look at the videos that you were linked or even do basic research into Engage LTC. This is why you're bleating your ignorance so loudly for all to see.
Astra storm is such shit and I don't understand why anons constantly try to gas it up. If you just want to cause aggro, you don't even need it to deal damage (which is good, because that's what it does to anything not made of paper).
>>739624027Well this is the first time Engagefags have pretended Sniper is a worthwhile choice in Engage because you can Astra Storm with Radiant Bow. That's totally new and very stupid. Now you know.
>>739624075Yes yes, I know that you felt smart when you used bonded shield for the first time. You're still a retard
>>739624124I'm not watching your boring 0% growths slop, faggot. Make an argument.
>>739623865>making Etie a SniperThe real reason not to make Etie a sniper is because she is already slow herself, and it's a slow class. It's a losing combination.
I beat fire emblem engage on maddening release week without any meta knowledge. Its not a game that requires this much sperging and in fact is easy once you acquire knowledge of how cheesy the game is.
>>739602530>on my first Conquest playthrough, Keaton's personal skill kept finding milk whenever I paired him up with Camillawhat did IS mean by this?
>>739624245>bonded shield out of nowhereThis is really the source of the pure spicy asshurt, isn't it? Sour grapes at the fact that Engage was solved in its first 3 months, and it's kind of a simplistic game with obvious choices and largely weak options outside of a few elite strategies.But again, I didn't design the game this way. Maybe they'll do a better job fixing its weak points in FW.
>>739624443It's nowhere near as hard or requiring as much meta knowledge as CQ Lunatic and that's kinda why I like it more. You can just jump into a playthrough without having to plan much like the older games. Just going with the flow, taking challenges as they come, and making decisions about your units build when the time comes instead of planning your skills and children 5 steps ahead.
>>739624443Its no more cheesy than most fire emblem games
>>739615051she's flat and you know it
>>739624217>>739624228Etie/Alcryst/Yunaka are benched post Chapter 10. Zelkov has no real use in Solm and falls behind. So LTC fags convert someone into their late game astra storm aggro slut using Amber/Citrinne because it saves turns in maps like 23 and 24 for example because it triggers the boss AI and forces them to come to you.Its a niche that's only relevant in a specific setting. No one was ever calling "good" unless you're a dumbass that conflates, used in a specific instance with "good" but who am I kidding? /vfeg/ is filled with autistic retards.
>>739623632Maybe if she was younger
>CQfags after making up nonsense for 50 posts: LALALA it doesn’t count
>>739624532>he's already at the projection stageLmao.
>>739624695I still don't see why it needs to be an Archer doing the aggro unless you have painfully underleveled, shit units and the Archer chip is somehow doing enough to push you to essential kill thresholds. I've routinely done warpskips of these maps, they're not hard to skip even without AS.
>>739622279Already played it, it's really good.>>739623420This one sucks and has awful balance, all of your units are out-statted by the enemies and you get swarmed every map.>>739623468Golden Country is good but the tranny energy the game has does seep through sometimes.>>739624115Already waiting on the Definitive Edition, I don't mind some of the dialogue being bad since other parts of it are excellent.
>>739624309>no one does it>show proof and provide explanations in text>nooo mommy please spoonfeed meYou never wanted to have an honest discussion with him.
>>739625026Waiting on you to point out where archers save turns in Engage. Can anyone do it?
>>739624892Because they save turns by making the enemy come to you and/or frees up a turn. Its momentum + astra storm btw
>Engage has a bad story>Engage has solved gameplaySo, what’s good about this game again?
>>739625145The gameplay and maps and characters and musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qMm19qmztU
Arguments like these are exactly why IS never made growths visible. You weren't supposed to know about these things, you're just supposed to use who you like.
>>739625116Yes...but why can't fucking base level Yunaka do that? Are you telling me you can't kill Evilear without Astra Storm chip? Doesn't that point to a deeper issue with how you've raised your units?
>>739625145I guess most of FE is bad then cause most of them are solved.
>>739625185Are you being obtuse on purpose?
>>739625181>Implying people don't use Rebecca because of her growths and not her horrific base stats and class
Engage fags in charge of not being disingenuous
>>739568646still my favorite FE despite it's flaws
Why are we even arguing about a midtier game on the level of awakening anyways? Lets discuss the top tier games in the franchise like radiant dawn and genealogy
>>739625274Why are you being so evasive in this entire conversation conversation? You made, for my money, a kind of crazy claim - Archer Covert Astra Storm chip is important in LTC. I'm asking you to simple point out where it materially saves turns compared to the Yunaka version and you refuse to do it. It makes me think you're trying to pull the wool over my eyes.
>>739625325Being unable to reply directly to who you're talking about is the 4chan equivalent of being unable to keep eye contact. Spineless cuck.
>>739625371No one cares what these youtuber homo uncs think
>>739625145It's made in Unity.That's about it.
>>739625280I always use Becca because she's cute and I like Archers
>>739625370Yeah, we know it is your first FE
>>739625116>Its momentum + astra stormMomentum is such an awesome skill. It's so satisfying setting up the right amount of momentum for a kill.
>>739625371Holy Tellius wank.
>>739625145>He says while posting a game that you beat by abusing Nos and Sol
>>739625280Who the fuck uses a gba archer for their growths
>>739625371This tier list is horrific redditshit. Almost as bad as the trinityfag.>video is 5 fucking hours long
>>739625370Based
>>739625476that would actually be FE7
>>739625280WWe use rebecca in every relay that she isnt revenge killed though
>>739625371>FE7 above FE6, CQ, Engage and at the same level of JugdralThis must be ironic
>>739625551Dorothy, Rebecca and Neimi all have pretty good growths.
>>739625475>actually get a run with a good Rebecca and a good Lyn>the battery in the gba cartridge diesFuck.
>>739625402>Being so evasiveGive me a break. I gave actual examples of where its used and you keep shifting the goalposts.
>>739625145>nowi trannyquestion discarded
>>739625371>FE7 above FE6Totally illogical in every angle I view it from
>>739625371>this is who /vfeg/ gets their opinions fromIt all makes sense now
>>739625730I didn't ask if they had good growths. Karel has good growths in 6
>>739625371>fetrannyslol i dont care
>>739625648>>739625475>I always use Becca because she's cute and I like Archersall the reasons you need to use her
>>739625731Alt when?
>>739625736If you can use Yunaka to do the same practical thing (Covert Astra Storm), it's not a unique niche of bowshitters, faggot. What do you not understand about this?The entire argument started because I said Archer is a bad class not worth using, it doesn't do anything special or unique. So saying that Archer is your only Covert Astra storm option if you refuse to use Yunaka/Zelkov is tautological.You're literally making an argument on the level of "but I don't want to use Marcus" and getting mad at me for being baffled by it.
>>739625981she would have been a perfect TT freebie...
>>739625714>>739625771Dont forget echoes mogging the entire B tier and outplacing the entire DS+3ds era
>>739625371The story of the tellius games sets it above the others because it’s relatable to today and not some boring medieval royalty rehash.
>>739578134Wow, he's even stronger than Sophia!
>>739625981>someone that isn't Fjorm or Laegjarn>getting altsDude, I'm fucking shocked they finally made Bridal Eir. We'd be lucky to ever get Letizia as a backpack.Even worse, Bridal Eir did so well, it outperformed the bridal banner from the year prior. So IS should have been making banners like that all along.
>>739626059truly. FE8 needs Sophia added
>>739626046I can at least understand that from the perspective of a storyfaggot "Its HER turn" Celicacuck, but FE7 has both a dogshit story and the worst gameplay of the GBA trilogy. FE6 mogs it in every way.
>>739626280Weebslop contrarian pick. Someone post the kimonos.
>>739626280>ambush spawns>hit rates>seize every map>promo item drought>mount spam>same music on every map>5 trillion turn supports with a hidden support point cap per map
>>739625981And speaking of alts
>circlejerking
Bow Knight's a fine class in Engage. Archer does suck though.
>>7396262806 is worse than 7 is. You only pretend it's decent because it's not officially released in english. The second it is, you'll be talking about how Roy is a worse unit than Lyn, how only three maps are good, how ambush spawns are horrible game design, etc.
>>739626381FE7 enemies are level 8 unpromoted halfway through the game and you get so utterly shafted by deployment limits that you realistically can't use more than one "fun" pick per playthrough. Even with FE6's so-called deployment drought, you promote much earlier anyways since you don't get 8 exp per kill.
>>739626381>ambush spawnsUnfortunate big flaw on an otherwise rgeat game>hit ratesNot as bad as people make them out to be since this is a 2RN game. Plus it has the side effect of actually making weapon choices interesting in this game. All in all, it is something you can play and strategize around if you're a smart player.>seize every mapMore objective variety would be nice but it's made up for by most maps being immaculate in design>promo item droughtThat's every GBA FE>mount spamThat's every GBA FE>same music on every mapThat's every GBA FE>5 trillion turn supports with a hidden support point cap per mapThat's every GBA FE
>>739626415>no Thrasir alts>no Eitri alts>no Letizia alts>took like 6 fucking years for Eir to get her Bridal alt when it only took Fjorm 4 monthsLooking at how terribly FEH handled its own women's alts, I'm lucky that Gullveig and Seidr got anything at all.
>>739626280The entire tierlist just reeks at the smell of people that rates things based on "vibes"Like, I bet my ass that 3H isn't higher because it would've made it even more obvious
>>739625982It is pretty obvious that in a LTC setting you are logically going to have less experience (and SP) going around because you're going to be clearing maps faster and thus will not be engaging all of the random fodder. The most obvious example being Chapter 8 where you can easily clear it in 2 turns (1 is possible but 2 is more consistent) and this comes at the cost of leaving everything on the map.Yunaka/Zelkov can aggro targets but it is very obvious that they will be worse than an actual archer if you want them to soften things/kill errant trash because you cannot afford to waste fragments that are going to your primary boss killers to raise Lyn all the way up to Mulagir level for a utility unit. Citrinne herself already sees some use early on since it doesnt require much investment to make her useful and blow up Morion for example. So its easy to shift her from the point where she's no longer a decent combat unit but already has the xp/sp from use that bringing a unit like Yunaka/Zelkov that require more exp to routed.It is not difficult to understand.
>Call out metafags for being slaves>Metafags seethe while proving that they're indeed slavesWorks every time
>>739626619>deployment drought*promotion item drought
Is there a mod for this that combines the route split so I can play them both in one run? Found a few that add a ton of other oc shit, I just want the routes combined
>whining about ambush spawns
The funniest thing about the pretentious JP-only game larpers is that they all moved on from FE4 to FE5 the millisecond FE4R rumors began and it ended up getting cancelled
>>739626136We had NY Eir and that "life mode" Eir, thats more than some other characters at least.
>>739625371>Tellius at the top
>>739626628>you can strategize around it>muh weapon choices!Someone post the promoted fighter with 90 hit using an iron axe
>>739626682There's a few but I don't know which ones are actually good and I know some of them add shitty OCs to make up for the lower unit count from splitting the armies.
>>739626642alts are certainly given in strange ways.considering the small cast of FE6. you'd think clarine and rutger would have gotten something but no.
>>739626642We still never got OG Vero
>>739615897If only. Seth can bang the main Lord, meanwhile Titania won't get with Ike.
>>739626676The one metafag slave just said FE7 was bad because “the enemies are level 8 unpromoted” and in the same sentence said “you can only use one fun pick” and didn’t even see the implication. If the enemies are so bad, you clearly don’t need to use the meta units.
>>739626810>Low-tier shitter is badWoah... how about someone posts Rebecca dealing 2 damage to an earlygame cav and we can really kick this argument into gear?
>>739626628IMMACULATE IN DESIGN
>>739626961This is an iconic callback to that one FE5 map where Eyval gets high.
>>739626664So, what? You put Citrinne in Sniper later on as a magic chip damage bot who can also pull of the occasional covert Astra Storm? A roll density argument? I'm not sure if I'm fully sold on the value of that but all right, it's something.
I have been playing FE6, 7 and 8 time after time again since 2003 or was it 2004, when 7 came out.Only played 9 once.Never played any other Fire Emblem game, just a couple of Thracia 776 maps but the fanpatch was absolute dogshit.
>>739626781NY Eir was 6 years ago. Ascendant Eir was 4 years ago.Think of it this way: between the time of getting Ascendant Eir and Bridal Eir (her fourth unit), we got>Summer Fjorm>Ice Tribe Fjorm>Chosen FjormJust from Fjorm. Laegjarn also got like three other units and now has six.>thats more than some other characters at least.It really isn't. She was treated the worst out of the leads. Even many side characters like Heidrun and Eikthyrnir got more than Eir did in less time. Now, Ratatoskr is treated worst.
>>739626961Yeah that map sucks, maps with spiraling map flow always suck in FE, it's the case in FE3 and 3H too. That's why I said "most maps" not "all maps"
>>739622184If you're interested in a weird roguelike offshoot try Hetja's Quest.
>>739626874Nigger it's because the maps just spam the ever-loving fuck out of the low level enemies and you have no deployment slots. You need to spam the meta shit because they're the ones capable of actually one-rounding 7 enemies per turn to make up for the massive discrepency in army size.
>>739626961so.. how would you rank lilina as a unit?seen both praise and disappointment for her
>>739626845FE6 is in a fun spot, because literally every banner it's ever had was a flop. So IS stopped making them quickly. Then, reddit begged for more alts, they got made, and THOSE also flopped. It got two bridal banners in a row, and they were each the worst seasonal banners of their year. And it now hasn't had a banner since November of 2024. Because IS knows nobody ACTUALLY wants it.>>739626848That's fine. Should have been a GHB a few years ago, but Legendary looks better.
>>739625371Am i the only one here that thinks this list is actually pretty good? Genealogy wank not withstanding
>>739627096You really don't, the problem with limiting deployment slots is it doesn't actually make it harder because it encourages you to funnel experience into a handful of units. The units then get ahead of the EXP curve and start stomping unless you're some shitter that can't can't fight on enemy phase like Rebecca or Guy, doesn't really matter who past that.
>>739626712they moved from fe5 to berwick saga ages ago
>>739627208Yes that list is terrible and you should feel bad
>>739627102Light affinity OPGood hit ratesMassive magic stat and good promo gainsFat fucking boltings that can 2 shot, sometimes one shot priority status staffers or siege enemiesAir caliburEasy to power level10/10 unit better than lance and luu
>>739626664>you cannot afford to waste fragments that are going to your primary boss killers to raise Lyn all the way up to Mulagir level for a utility unitTHIS kinda shit RIGHT HERE is EXACTLY what I'm talking about when I say people don't acknowledge the intricacies of the game.
>>739627346>one shotting a 20+ RES Druid or Bishop with Bolting
>>739627208>PoR at the top>>>>>>>>>RD at the top>Echoes and 6 even anywhere near the middle, and not near the bottom>Engage and Conquest sharing a tier with 3H and AwakeningIt's like this list is based off of watching cutscenes, but even that would put 3H higher than it is.
>>739627243It makes it less fun is my point, because you're obviously going to funnel experience into the meta characters, and not the shitters. In FE6 you can afford to field fun picks like Gonzo often since you don't need everyone to fight several enemies every turn.
>>739627102Good quick support and hits hard.very frail and slow when you don't get lucky with levels though
>>739627472I mean yeah, but you don't really have to, it's not like the enemies in this game are worth a shit.
>>739624217ok but why not do damage to pick a kill up from 20 tiles away and also aggro
Most of them actually gave 3h the flouride stare
>>739627346>Fat fucking boltings that can 2 shot, sometimes one shot priority status staffers or siege enemiesBy the way you get literally 5 bolting uses for the entire game before the 21 secret shop so use them wisely.
>Rebecca>can't fight on enemy phaseOh? She killed about 6 enemies on this one here though.
>>739627661What else are you hammerning?
>>739627612Astra storm doesn't kill shit idiot
>>739625371This list is horrendous.
>>739627624>literally the only decent quality of RD is its attempt at telling a story, and everything else is some of the worst the series has ever seen>rate it S>3H's best quality is its character writing, and otherwise has (improved) Echoes gameplay>B, same as Echoes>actually lower than EchoesEveryone there is a retard.
>>739627375People acknowledge the bond fragment economy. The issue is, again, it's relatively clear what is worth doing what is not, and you're not so deprived in a regular playthrough as in an LTC, where units are artificially starved of resources to enable the low turn counts. In a regular run you're probably not going to max out Leif or Marth before Ike, Lucina, or even Lyn, for example. It's reasonable to make an argument around this assumption.But people get mad when you point out Fire Emblem is full of false complexity and fake choices. Every game has this issue, but it's somewhat aggravated in Engage due to the abundance of wide open choices, with many not being very good. I'm not going to pretend Magic +2 is a more sensible inherit than Canter and you shouldn't either, even if you like Magic +2.
>>739627663You're not allowed to use formations, that's cheating
>>739627681Warp staff? Durandal? Brave bow?
If I want to delve into the series, are there any entries better off being skipped?are the remakes suitable replacements for original entries?I've only played Awakening
>>739625371>choopsIsnt that the guy who ALLEGEDLY raped a chick and got deltre to quit fire emblem youtube?
>>739627096>capable of actually one-rounding 7 enemies per turnUnless those enemies happen to have 8 or more AS!
>>739627848YesNo
>>739627848Awakening is the only good one
>>739627848Just play fates: conquest and ignore the rest of the series. Play gba era if you have an itch after conquest
>>739627869Didn't Goose accuse like six different FE youtubers of raping her?
Oliver likes himself some Snacki.
>>739627869>AllegedlyDude literally said that they got intoxicated and she was no longer willing and he didn't care because he booked a flight across the country
>>739627869>He was the Rape Emblem
>>739627848Sure bro, just follow this guide>>739625371
>>739627879Most enemies don't but Marcus is most likely to have already proc'd 2 points of speed by the time they do.
>>739627961They all probably "raped" her.
>>739620794I want her holy water
>>739627901Based
>>739628072Plus he's one of the better recipients of the first Speedwing.
>>739627958Horrible advice for a newcomer. He should go from awakening to BR to CQ then Rev then Echoes then 3H then Engage then go back and play the old games.
>>739625371>Putting RD in S when it's story is as bad as Conquest and the Unit Recruitment is as bad as RevelationsThis is the moment when you lose any and all credibility.
>>739628108We should make a holy water tierlist instead
>>739627096You only need ~3 strong units at most depending on how much you want to split your army in the map, everyone else can be a scrimblo jannying up in the player phase
>>739627848Go start with Sacred Stones and just fumble around from there. It's structurally the game that Awakening was a sequel to.>>739628107Definitely. Didn't she first accuse one guy, and all of the friends backed her, then she accused all of the friends and they scattered?
>>739628434Zazed BPD skank power abusing
>>739622878>promotes homogenizationThe primary consideration with any FE4 pairing is how to make sure as many 2nd gen units as possible have pursuit. It "promotes homogenization" because it is as simple as "you are a viable unit if you have pursuit and you are not a viable unit if you don't" with the only serious exception being Lewyn!Arthur, and even then, he's only considered a viable alternative to Lewyn!Sety because Arthur gets a horse in Horse Emblem.
>>739628460>the game with the most tedious hub ever>replayable
>>739628460literally who is replaying 3H
Mangs, the drunken rapist who raped a sober girl sleeping in the same bed as him by touching her bum, won
>>739628460>3h>replayable
>>739628409>everyone else can be a scrimblo jannying up in the player phaseThis feels much worse than it sounds when a single kill gives fuck-all experience. If you aren't enemy phasing in FE7 a significant amount, you're getting like 1 level a chapter so it feels really shitty when you spent that contested deployment slot for training and it's +HP +LCK
>>739627758Lucina doesnt need to be higher than Dual Support for whoever's using her.Marth is a more useful investment of fragments compared to say Micaiah since most people only want her for staff prf. The free staff rank is a joke since its comparatively cheaper to seal Hort/Pandreo/Mauvier/Lindon.Only really Panette cares about Ike that high and she stops at Wrath.
>>739628508Also he can just be the one unit you concede the skill itself on and simply sell him the pursuit band.
>>739627869You're thinking of Mangs who shared a bed with a cosplayer while he was drunk, Chaz (or Choops) actually did rape a girl.
Cutesythea
>>739628661when you are 7 levels above the enemy you get the exact same exp whether you kill it or not. in an ironman it is better to give killing exp to a scrimblo you can use later whenever you can
>>739628072Marcus has a really bad spd growth and needs several maps of exp for levels. If you're not ignoring the rest of your units, they'll get speed much faster than Marcus
>>739629196Good thing Marcus has a way easier time killing things for EXP than whatever shitter you're gonna mention
I can’t believe LTChads won another argument in a total humiliation of the sissy who was making stuff up
>>739629196Doesn't really matter when he's wiping out half the map single-handedly.
We're really trying to optimize a single player children's game again, eh?
Jagen...fell off...
Factos
>>739629690>NOOO YOU CAN'T PLAY A STRATEGY GAME FOR THE STRATEGYExtremely low IQ poster
>>739629436Even an unlucky Marcus still has enough SPD to double endgame enemies, most of them being around 8-10 AS. With the Speedwing he nearly does that at base, but odds are he'll reach 16 SPD with 12 AS being where most of the rest of the enemies are, anything faster is purely Merc/Myrm and bosses.
>>739628230>have the newfag play 3 of the worst games in the entire seriesWhy? Conquest is the good one, he should play the good fire emblem and ignore the bad ones.
>>739629779Here's the thing. Strategies require thinking. Unga Bunga Marcus with javelin or Wyvern spam ain't thinking
>>739629690>NOOOO YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY PLAY THE STRATEGY GAME LIKE A REAL STRATEGY GAME
>>739629569>half the mapYes, the other half being the mercenaries, the myrmidons, the faster axefags, the nomads and the cavs. How do you deal with all those?
>>739629862>every game except conquest is le badWhy are you even in this thread?
He can't go one thread without bringing up javelins.
>>739628661>you're getting like 1 level a chapterIs it that bad? Enemies mostly only get 1 level per chapter and they don't scale as well as your units. Most scrimblo sucks at low levels because enemies got high bases but getting 30+ exp per kill will allow you to level as many scrimblos as you want and outpace the enemies in the late game where they are all shit while the actual good units can keep getting combat exp until they die and get replaced by a scrimblo or you finish the game>but my juggernauts never die because i'm carefulI'm not, I just throw units at the enemy because it is a gba game and if they die they just get replaced
>>739629936Probably with Marcus lol
>>739629942Rev echoes and birthright are all complete fucking dogshit dude. You should be crucified sideways for suggesting them
>>739629892>let me be a reductive cuntbagYeah faggot. And you can cheese any fe game with warp staffs by warp skipping too but that's boring as fuck
>>739629786>Marcus still has enough SPD to double endgame enemies
>>739630057Ohnonono
>>739630018As is "lemme not think about half this map he'll dodge everything and kill everything in one round"
>>739629936Nomads aren't even fast in FE7. Marcus is doubling pretty much everything but mercs and myrms at base, and it's not like they deal any damage to be an issue for him if they take an extra round to kill.
>>739630057You're not very good at reading, are you?
>>739630057Marcus bros.... it seems we are too unc now for the zoomers
>>739630057>HeroNow how about anything else not Hero and Swordmaster, hmm?
>>739630000Quads !
under what circumstances would somebody ever allow this specific combat to take place
>he's good because he doubles the shittiest fodder trash enemies that literally anyone can double
Unc jagen
>>739630057Marcus won that duel btw, else FE6 wouldn't happen. Trust the numbers
>>739629196>my 40% speed growth unit with a 5+ speed deficit will surely outpace marcus because his speed growth is like 25
>>739630295Real and true. FE7 Marcus canonically survives every screenshot posted in these threads.
>>739630057Realistically Marcus would be level capped at this point and average 16 speed without a speedwing. With one, he'd have 18 which is quite a lot in FE7.
>>739630341>averagesSometimes they get worse levels than their averages or better ones. But for low growths it's usually the former
>>739630295I wonder if Marcus started to get PTSD flashbacks from Cog of Destiny when he started to see enemy valkyries in Etruria.
>>739630057>41 hitRISKCHADS, WE'RE ROLLING
>>739630000
>>739630296>Not displayed: the 40% spd growth unit gets 1/3rd of a level/kill plus they get extra spd from their promo bonusEven Lowen outpaces Marcus fast despite barely having a better spd growth thanks to those advantages.
>>739630394Statistically he's equally likely to be above or below his averages. That's why they're called averages. But yeah even an unlucky Marcus will have 16 speed with a speedwing which is quite good.
>>739630341>RealisticallyTranslation: if you scrimblomaxx him.
>>739630452Are you sure about that?
>>739630452>fastIt takes 20~ levels. That's not fast.
>>739630296It takes 33.3 levels for a unit with +15% growth and -5 SPD to outpace the other if both are leveling at the same rate, however, if Marcus is not leveling, then it takes only 12.5 levels to surpass him. If you would provide the missing value for number of levels Marcus is gaining, the system of inequality can be solved for the moment unit X surpasses him.
>>739630520>Marcus>Scrimblo
>>739630520>Using your best character is scrimbloing
>>739628683The reason to max out Lucina is for 4 turns of Busted Shield.
>>739630605>>739630561>it’s not scrimbloing to take a jagen to the level cap because it just isn’t!!
>>739630550Years of savestate rigging has really fucked peoples perception of average stats>>739630000
>>739630550>Matches Marcus at 11/1 and outpaces him at 14/1Yes, thanks for proving that even this slow fuck outpaces Marcus fast
>>739630452>the "outpaces Marcus fast": a speedwing of speed difference on average after 18 levelsGrindfags always expose themselves so fast lol
>>739630668I know you never use Jeigans so you have no experience or frame of reference but that's just a normal result of using them from the beginning of the game. Normal units don't reach 20/20, Jeigans are there from the beginning promoted already.
>>739630668Dude he's like already level 10 by the time you're promoting your first character
>>739630702That’s +4 aka 80% of a double if you give him the speedwing instead of Marcus
>>739630690Ayo wtf the quads was in this thread? lol>>739630693>outpaces him at 11/19.7 nigga>outpaces him at 14/110.6 nigga>10 to 11 strength paladin
>>739630780I don't need to do that though since Lowen grows to be lightning fast quickly. So I might as well have another lightning cav and hand that Speedwing over to the old man to keep up.
>>739630805>Not including the promoLearn to read kek
>>739630605>your best characterWe're talking about Marcus though.>>739630561What else do you call giving someone all the kills and boosters?
>>739630752>Normal units don't reach 20/20You can get to 20/18+ with a lot of units in FE7 and still get A rank on turn count
Why is it okay to give Lowen 18 levels but not even 1 to Marcus
>>739630835Oh so now he’s so fast he doesn’t need it? As expected of a jagen scrimbloer.
>>739630875
>>739630947Why is the concept of making efficient use of resources so offensive to your sensibilities?
>>739630958English please
>>739630550>base 7 str>12 str at level 20Gba growth units really are wretched and miserable
>>739630958bodied his dumbass
>>739631007My point was made.
>>739630932BECAUSE IT JUST IS
>>739630754He’s benched by the time I do that though.
>>739630932Because Marcus takes much, mucj longer to get his level than Lowen, and he needs like 3 of them before he procs spd once on average.
>>739631030It would be a lie if I said I got your point
>muh bad str>ignoring double fire support
>>739631071Post your endgame Marcus level and W/L
>>739631019He's def oriented, and his extra con does mean that he can use Hand Axes and other heavier weapons with less or no penalty once promoted.
>>739631019>speadsheetfagLowen is fire affinity. STR doesn't really matter to him.
>>739630932Because anons have associated the term Jeigan with 0% growths in their heads, and now they playing a hypothetical version of FE where their scrimblos are allowed to level up but prepromotes aren't.
>>739631019I wouldn't call Lowen a growth unit, he is good because of other aspects.
>>739631172>just staple Becca to his ass so he can kill things
>>739631254It's mostly just Sain and Kent are more of a pain in the ass to train and Lowen is usually good enough. Being on a horse is cool since you can always go fight somebody else if the match-up is bad.
>>739631190>playing a hypothetical versionIt's like the people who argue 'meta' from the perspective of LTC faggotry despite the fact that they do not play LTCs themselves.
You can get a unit from 1 to 20 in about 20 turns in gba games. Just saying
>>739631019I'm a Marcusfag but Lowen is the second best cav/paladin. He's quite good for his combo of speed and bulk that allows him to safely fight huge enemy phases even if he isn't always one rounding.
>Chapter takes 50+ turns for your Knights to arrive.
>>739631371Nobody's talking about LTC though. For some reason you're conflating using Marcus with that.
>>739631375I had Nino ready to early promote at 10 going into her gaiden map.
>>739631375Not possible without cheating, nobody gets 100 EXP per kill 100% of the time.
>>739631375>People call marcus a scrimblo but not Nino
>>739631528Wrong, Entombed in FE8.
>>739631190Below 30 growth = 0 to the average FE fan. It's a cognitive bias we don't yet have a name for. Maybe the scrimblo fallacy.
>fucking REBECCA is stronger than Slowen>still weaker than base marcus btwLowen is actually rebeccas battery, not the other way around
>>739631371You're literally doing what I described. You have an internalized view of prepromotes that automatically implies 0% growths LTC or some shit.
>>739631528Skill issue. You can dance, you can have them kill 1, maybe 2, extra enemies per enemy phase
>>739631559Look at those GROWTHS! Surely she must be GOOD!
Fire emblem will always be a series for pansies as long as Cavaliers remain op and without any sort of weakness.
>>739631701You will never beat an fe7 or fe8 relay
>>739631559Archers have disgusting promo gains to make up for their artificially dogshit bases, news at 11
>>739631528Being 17 levels behind gives you 87 exp per kill. That 87 carries over to the next level on the second kill. Then you get 83 exp so on and forth until you are fighting level 18 enemies as lv. 18 where you get 30 exp per kill and 10 exp per combat
>>739631701Cavs suck in Fates
>>739631701Cavaliers haven't been on top for a long time, buddy. Move on from the GBA/Tellius meta already.
>>739631315Merraige with merrin!
>>739631818Cavs get two incredible skills and lance access though
>>739631562>automatically implies 0% growths LTCWell, where else did you get the idea that mediocre prepromotes are the best and optimal units to use in the game?
>>739631892>IncredibleThey're good, but there's much better.
>>739631701Cavs haven't been good in FE in over a decade unc
>>739631892Yeah you get the skills and dip. Lances aren't a particularly good weapon type.
>>739631553>>739631629>>739631807There is no map that has the 20+ entombed you will need to do this.
>>739631947From playing the game and watching Marcus stomp it with ease as you retards lose the 20th run trying to grind Rebecca?
>>739631990I don't know what entombed is
>>739631980>beast killer>guard naginata>spear
>>739631990You might be right about that, by my count of ctrl+F there's around 6 in the game.
>>739632047Lol the one run we grinded marcus and neglected everyone else died instantly on merlinus gaiden
>>739632072Spear is absolutely shit I would never buy in a million years and the guard naginata isn't available in Conquest.
>>739631990>nino >entombedlol
>>739632128>neglected>merlinus gaidenYou are a complete moron, I'm sorry to say
>>739632128Because a dumb scrimblofag was using Eliwood. It was poetic.
>>739632128>"neglected" everyone else for 2 mapsfuckin wat
>>739632194The post was about the GBA games, retard.
>>739632128>neglectedI see your retardation is terminal
>>739632219Eliwood woula crushed it with an extra point of HP and skill
>>739632337Totally, totally.
>niggers are unironically trying to argue cavs are bad in fates when they mog the shit out of 90% of the classes in the game+3str and defense7 movedamage stacking and rescuingTWO weapon types to grind for whatever your next class is going to maingood hp str and speed class basesNo downsides>>739631837Merrin thread next
>>739632328Camilla looks like such a powerful Stacy in that art
>>739632358Cav classes don't have good bases even. You can see this if you reclass Arthur because he becomes a strictly worse Silas.
>>739632128Im pretty sure a rebecca gooner took chapter 13
>>739631534She will always be my scrimblo
>>739632253Any lv1 anima mage can get to 20 in a single chapter in the late game, and you can make it brain dead if they get avoid support and is on a mountain
Honk thread next
>>739632358>damage stacking and rescuing>+3 str and defense (???)>7 move>two weapon ranks, but not good weapons>good speed - lieEither not exclusive to the class, not correct, or not that useful. It's a fine class to be in early game, but it quickly gets outpaced and ultimately keked in all routes. In Birthrout, it's just bad at routing; in Conquest, it's bad at just about everything; in Revelation, can't fly.Every Cav wants to be in a different class by ~16 in BR and CQ unless they're pure support utility. Does have great skills in base class tho.
>>739632696The exception is of course Xander. Both big bros have this in common - making a weak class with great skills look like an amazing class to be in. But it's just them.
>>739632358Wyvern is the class that gives +3 str and defense on pair up. Im pretty sure cav gives something dogshit like res on pair up
>>739632787Pieri is good as a Dark Knight
Reminder we lost a conquest relay because of magic enemies raping
>Pieri
>>739632960Reminder i would play a conquest relay but not gba
>>739633072Did you just post kids on 4chin?
