Why does SEGA hate money?
>>739584026Yeah they do, they either hate money or have no clue how to best serve the fans. Adventure 3Heroes 2Mania 2Do a throwback and make Extreme. Make Shuffle. Use the momentum of Bubsy and make 4D Blast.
Do you really want SA3 with the current writers, voice actors, character models, etc.?
They need to put out more buggy unfinished shitty games first.
It's literally been 2 fucking decades. When will you faggots accept that Sonic 06 is SA3?
>>739584026Surge will be in SA3>>739584263cope
>>739584026I don't think modern sonic team could do this idea justice, it's better off just dead.
>>739584263If it doesn't have a chao garden it can't be SA3.
>>739584026They know they don't have the talent to make it good so they don't try.
>>739584263Shadow the Hedgehog is closer to SA3
They're afraid to fuck it up.They know how much is riding on it, how high expectations are.They know they can't deliver.Same reason why there's still no Star Wars game dedicated to playing as Darth Vader.
>>739584705How so?
Current Sega doesn't recognize that the Sonic Adventure games are better than the others and doesn't really care since low quality games like Forces and Frontiers will sell millions because little kids buy anything.They think the only value of SA2 is the soundtrack and can't put two and two together that people remember the soundtrack because they remember the game.
There is more money in them keeping the possibility of Sonic Adventure 3 alive than there is actually making it. Just look at what happened to Sonic 4 and Superstars. No one is asking for classic Sonic anymore. There's no way an Adventure 3 would live up to expectations.
>>739585329>Just look at what happened to Sonic 4 and Superstars. No one is asking for classic Sonic anymore.I feel sorry for the poor fool who doesn't see what you're doing and tries to engage you genuinely.
I think we need sonic mania & creme the rabbit
>>739584026>implying Adventure 3 hasn't been done like 3 times already with Sonic 06, Unleashed and Frontiers
>>739585005>They're afraid to fuck it up.lmao, as if, over the years Sega has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they give absolutely 0 fucks about quality.
>>739584026reminder sonic adventure 2 is garbage
>>739585523You're right anon, it's far more likely there's a conspiracy to spite you by not releasing that game you want.
>>739584026What does Adventure 3 mean? Heroes and 06 could be considered SA3. It a meaningless title. It's not like Adventure 1 and 2 are really connected.
>>739585509Oh shit, really? Quick lets do a check. What what the name of Sonic 06 again? Oh yeah, Sonic The Hedgehog", okay lemme check.... weird I can neither find the word Adventure nor the number 3 in there. Can you Anon? Okay, whatever, next one. "Sonic Unleached", yep that just HAS to be Sonic Adventure 3. No doubt about it. But lets make sure..... uh Anon? Something really strange is going on... "Sonic Unleashed" also doesn't spell anything like "Sonic Adventure 3". Okay, I'm honestly to lazy to keep this up, but you get the idea, go fuck yourself, nigger.
Why dont you? Its the reason for everything bad with the world, and also painfully the reason for most things good
>>739585740>muh nameYou're never getting a real Adventure 3. Grow up and move on.
>>739585785>Why dont you?Who claimed otherwise?
>>739585740>What what the name of Sonic 06 again? Oh yeah, Sonic The Hedgehog", okay lemme check.... weird I can neither find the word Adventure nor the number 3 in there. Can you Anon?>the na-name>Doesn't use his barely fucntional brain to analyze the gameplay and progression design to understand the game is structured like the Adventure games>Okay, whatever, next one. "Sonic Unleached", yep that just HAS to be Sonic Adventure 3. No doubt about it. But lets make sure..... uh Anon? Something really strange is going on... "Sonic Unleashed" also doesn't spell anything like "Sonic Adventure 3".The Japanese name of the game is literally Sonic world ADVENTURE ffs
>>739585819>>muh nameDogshit excuse. Take your prolapsed anus and fuck off.
>>739584026>>739584150Do you retarded faggots seriously trust modern Sonic Team to deliver any of that without fucking it up?
I've always been a huge advocate for remaking Sonic 06 and just rename it as Sonic Adventure 3. Include a chao garden and fix the ending. Under the hood, 06 wasn't that bad of a game
>>739585906Correct, your "but it's not called SA3!" excuse is dogshit and you type like a child.
>>739585907There's people that glazed over Shadow Generations' content despite being made by that exact ST so yeah... there are people THAT retarded
>>739585960the exact reason why it's bad is under the hood, the game is barely functionalyou know what "under the hood" means right?
>>739585980>type like a childThat's literally something a child would write. Typing is the input method (which you can't judge), writing is the content. Hope that helps, now stop posting before it gets even more embarrassing.
>>739585960>>739586024He's right; there's a good game in Sonic 06 but the execution of the code of it was terrible. I mean there's a whole project of a guy fixing some of that poor execution and the game is solid once it.... functions without the pasta holding it back collapsing
Sonic Adventure is basically a series where less than half the gameplay is high speed platforming and the majority is just whatever bullshit Sonic Team feels like shoving in. By that standard, Unleashed is absolutely a Sonic Adventure title.
>>739584026Sammy convinced SEGA to only care about superficial marketing for Sonic as a brand to sell merch, not as a competent game series. Even if they didn't, SEGA doesn't know the first thing about micromanaging their equally-clueless developers anyways.Besides they already more-or-less attempted SA3 and it blew chunks. Their absolute best efforts today yielded an Unreal test map with recycled levels, they can't even do the former anymore.
>>739585041It's actually good
>>739585907I didn't say that.
>>739586119Adventure's formula is defined by different gameplay and character gameplay besides the usual Sonic. Like 06 different characters just like Adventure 1 and why Unleashed is an Adventure game because of the werehog; basically complete different character than Sonic visually and gameplaywiseI don't hate God of War style werehog sections myself
>>739584263This. SA3 is just a name. You have to be more specific what you're asking for.
>>739586108>no youYou're literally demonstrating the fact that you're a child and you have no idea.
>>739584026Japs don't get it, to them Sonic 06 was Sonic Adventure 3, but you didn't like that, so "I guess Whito piggu no want adventure three"
>>739586251If I boot up a Sonic game, I want to play Sonic. If I want to play God of War, I boot up God of War.
>>739586204Okay?
sonic 06 was adventure 3
>>739586337And yet you (most likely) advocate for an adventure game; the series that had more playable characters beyond Sonic. I expect you understand the blatant irony in your post>If I want to play God of War, I boot up God of WarThis will shock you; Werehog can become speedrun GoW
Sonic Heroes = SA3Shadow the Hedgehog = SA4Shadow's story ties the games together
>>739586118Listen pal, I'm as much disappointed by Sonic 06 as you are but Project 06 isn't good. It's just less bad.>>739586251>I don't hate God of War style werehog sections myself...Why not?
>>739584026Sonic hero's was SA3 and Sonic(2006) was SA4
>>739586501>an adventure game; the series that had more playable characters beyond Sonica-anon?
>>739585740Here you go.
>>739586501>Werehog can become speedrun GoWooh interesting, so I have to practice the bad game over and over and over to get something out of itthat sounds like a good use of my time, playing a game I hate with the promise that I'll magically like bad gameplay once it becomes fasterI am genuinely flabbergasted that you were shameless enough to make the speedrunning argument
>>739584026SEGA literally does not have the talent for this. Nor do they have the infrastructure to foster such talent. The only reason they've been coasting off lame boost games is because they already have all the resources to make them.>>739585041It uses some assets from SA2. That said it's more like an SA2.5
>>739586501Why would you want to speedrun GoW?
>>739585490>cream the rabbitDon't mind if I do
>>739584026you already had heroes and shadow which had the same gameplay as the adventure sonic levels, sonic 06 which was sonic adventure 3 in everything but name including bringing back the hub areas and the epic multi perspective plotline, and sonic unleashed aka world adventure (and sonic rush adventure) if you literally just want a game called sonic adventureall those games just suck, because sonic team sucks. sa1/2 had 'this has to sell our console' budget, none of the sonic games after have and all the people with talent besides the musicians left sonic team ages ago, so even if they made sa3 it would be a letdown
>>739586204>>739586817Gotta say these are some pretty compelling and fleshed-out arguments but I'm not quite sure you've convinced me yet.
>>739586610>only one character>it's because the game's "plot"I don't think that counts. I never used knuckes in those games tbqh
>>739586853>which had the same gameplay*with objectively far worse physics
>>739586705>ooh interesting, so I have to practice the bad game over and over and over to get something out of it>needing to practice>not abusing the air time the moment he notices he can float Skill issue, I bet you defeat all the enemy waves
>>739586953>>only one characterSonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Sonic with Tails as partner are playable in Sonic 3. Are you like, on drugs or something?
I'm glad Sega never ever listens to /v/ opinions
>>739587003There it is, I was wondering when you would say the line. Every time.
>>739584026>last Sonic game I enjoyed was Heroes>never bought Sonic games againfeels bad, hopefully they course correct, they've had decades to do so
>>739587014>TailsAlways secondary, never mandatory, never game progression designed to be used. Sometimes even felt as hidden like Sonic 2, you have more of a point with Knuckles
>>739584026Sonic Unleashed had the title "Sonic World Adventure" in Japan, though it made sense to drop it elsewhere since you only get to play as Sonic unless you count the Gundam fight match at the end as a legitimate exception.
>>739587003>bet you defeat all the enemy wavesI don't play your shit at all. Now that it's on PC, nobody has to suffer through the worst GoW clone of all time.
>>739587108>Always secondary, never mandatory, never game progression designed to be used.Why would I care about any of that?
Sega could literally hire Taxman and the Brazilian dude behind Sparx the Electric Jester to just make the next Mania and Sonic Adventure games and it would be a slam dunk money printing machine but they're too proud and incompetent
>>739587176Because it's important>tails is never relevant in the classic games and always used as sidekick>knuckles has the whole game plot related to his prescenceI mean you brought both of them and don't realize this?!
>>739587304where did I bring them
>>739587125>copingkind of ironic since some went the extra mile to play it on pc, it seems there are people that do wants to.
>>739587304>Because it's importantNo it isn't? Sonic 3 is a great game as it is. And SR2B didn't need any of that shit to blow every 3D Sonic game out of the water.So why should I care when it's never what made any of the games good?
>>739586610>>739587014
>>739587365>some went the extra mile to play it on pcYeah because now you can skip the dogshit werehog levels.God, you're fucking dumb.
>>739586565NTA but at worst the werehog was a 30 minute distraction. The combat, while basic, has its own fun charm to it with pulling off combos and using fun moves. The platforming wasn't too painful either.
>>739587407Anon, both of those are my posts. You're clearly on drugs. Or just getting so upset that you can't keep it straight.
>>739584026>Why does SEGA hate money?what goes up must come down
>>739584026there's nowhere to go OP>sonic's beef with eggs man is over and chaos has returned to the master emerald>shadow's already found his inner peace, and then we had heroes where he finds eggman and ow the edgehog where he gets amnesia and suddenly hallucinates that he's an android>then you have 06 where elise appearswhat could they even write aboutbesides, the chao garden dude is long gone and we all know they'd turn the garden into a microtransaction-laden P2W mess
I want a game that PLAYS like Adventure or SRB2. I don't give a fuck what it's called. Too bad we're probably getting more open world with non-Sonic puzzles and combat tacked on.
>>739587474Why don't you just... play something good instead? It's genuinely one of the worst 3d beat-em-ups ever made by a major company. It honestly seems like you're just battered.
>>739584026That is never happening ever. You will have to cope with either Heroes / 06 or Unleashed. SA is a time capsule now.
I'm not buying another sonic game unless its sonic adventure 3.
>>739587428>Yeah because now you can skip the dogshit werehog levels.>skipping half the gamevegans, ladies and gentlement...
>>739587491>Anon, both of those are my postsThat's why I quoted them.
>>739587775Right! In order to... do nothing?
>>739587562>one of the worstNigga, you haven't played many BAD beat 'em ups have you? It is NO WHERE NEAR the level of slop as ride to hell nor as pointlessly padded out/dull as Dead Rising 4. Play more games.
>>739587718Ohhhh, so THAT'S what this is about.You can't access the PC version to skip the werehog levels, so you convince yourself they're actually good.Well anon, I'm sorry to hear that. I'll leave you to grieve.
Does anyone still believe Heroes might get a remake? Or a remake in general, which one of their games would they remake first?
>>739587830So you like it because you've played worse but never anything better?
>>739587562>>739587858I guess this guy is coping using the old "b-but is not good anyway" excuse, right?
>>739587874>Does anyone still believe Heroes might get a remake?I would honestly be extremely surprised if they remade anything at all.>>739587916What?
>>739587916Yeah! It's like when I tell people E.T. is a good game and they disagree. Obviously they were just coping.
>>739586501I never want to play God of War, so it's a moot point anyway. Point is I only want to play what I want to play. I only play things I like. Sonic Adventure tends to be full of things I don't like.
>>739587820Answer your question.
>>739588042What question?
>>739584157a game by the Shadow devs without all the old retarded Japanese guys they can't fire forcing dumbfuck gimmicks into every other level? yeah I'll take 20.
>>739588007Yeah; >>739588008 is cope mode.
>>739587894Ah, you are baiting. Fuck it, sunk cost and all. I've played DMC 4, MGRR, yakuza 5 Dead Rising 1/2 and GOW 3 to name a few. Those games do have better combat but they have worse platforming. What beat 'em ups games have you played?
>>739588081Yes! Not wanting to play bad games is coping. You and I, we are cool, we play Superman 64, Metroid Other M, Dragon Age 2, DMC2, and all that.
>>739588067>>739587352
>>739585306They did that crush40 concert a few years ago but fucked up the audio of the livestream. I think it was the 20th anniversary of sa2
>>739588114you forgot Dark Souls 2, fellow chud
>>739588130That's not my question, my reply to you was this >>739587372And I'm guessing you just ignored it because you're a big fat pussy who can't answer it.
>>739588114>You and I, we are cool, we play Superman 64, Metroid Other M, Dragon Age 2, DMC2, and all that.There are only 2 actual bad games in there.
>>739587858>tendies are shitting up the sega thread again The 90s war never truly ended, did it...
I don't like how in Heroes, whenever you switch from a Speed character to a Power or Flight character, you immediately slow down. I know true momentum was never much of a thing in 3D Sonic, but that always felt bad.The really bad thing about Power characters is that it causes more annoyances than it solves. Enemies had to be given health points purely to justify them. A lot of their attacks just kinda stop you dead in your tracks. Speaking of which, I hate the Blue/Black Tornado moves .
>>739588193I am well aware you like bad games, you do not need to tell me.
>>739588295I want myI want myI want my sonic adventure 3
>>739588340Yeah, me too.
>>739588101>haha I think this is bait but I'm replying anywayGrow up.>What beat 'em ups games have you played?DMC1-5, MGRR, Yakuza 1 - 0 (no remasters or remakes like you fags), most GoW games, Bayonetta 1&2, God Hand, Viewtiful Joe, Jedi Power Battles, Nightmare Creatures, Medievil, Maken X, Fist of the North Star Lost Paradise, Dynamite Cop.
>>739588191>"I'm not Anonymous"-Anonymous
>>739584263I bet people would fucking love it if it was called SA3, with no other change.
>>739588210It's not a tendie, it's a vegan. >>739588295that's a weird projection
>>739588501>still can't answer the questionThat's what I thought.
>>739588436>grow upKek, the bait fag got tilted. >game listRespectable enough. I guess I'll agree to disagree.
>>739588545>>739588210
>>739588610Okay?
>>739588567>copes using deflection nowWhat was your original question then?
>>739588614Why did you use a random image that is linked to an indian channel, anon?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiktRtkztzI
>>739588695I already linked it to you. Why do you keep ignoring it?
>>739588742>I already linked it to youWhere? It's not in >>739588567
>>739588732It's called google images!
>>739588672Ok
>>739588775Go back a little farther!
>>739587540Yet my feet don't touch the ground
>>739588795That's it? You don't want to actually talk about beat-em-ups?
>>739588785Yeah sure. However, THAT particular one isn't the first image. You could have picked any other image to make your point.
>>739584026you can't have adventure 3 because:1-chao system is required and needs massive dev time investment2-several character playstyles are required (sa1 had 6. sa2 narrowed it down 3.)3-modern boost gameplay has raped level design, and boost players don't want actual sa2 levelsbasically there's no point putting effort into adventure sonic gameplay, level design and story when kids buy actual dog shit while sonic says "baldy mc nosehair" and references some old thing and sells millions.
>>739588795Sonic embraced the Frenzied Flame
>>739588832Quote it.
>>739588876Okay, pick one that isn't indian. Since you're so concerned about it, you can do the research yourself.
>>739588913Nah, you can find it. Here's a hint: it's been linked in a post replying to you, very recently.
>>739589002>deflects again after being asked to provideThere must be no question then.
>>739588873He realized he was talking to someone with more experience than him.
>>739589075I'll link it if you bark like a dog.
>>739588873I made my point about the combat in my first post (>>739587474). I said it was basic and simple but fun to pull off the move strings and make combos from them. I found the act of leveling up and getting new moves enjoyable. I would then try out these moves in the mini hub worlds before the stages. I found the hog sections to be decent alternatives to the EXCELLENT day stages. I don't love the night stages but I feel that they are overly hated.
>>739588101>to name a few*to name them all
>>739589147Oh my bad, it sounded like you wanted to talk about other beat-em-ups as well.
>>739589093Kinda not really. Less about more experience, more about how that anon had the experience to back up their feelings and therefore it would just amount to two people arguing over their subjective feelings.
>>739589176Why are you trying to bait me now?
>>739589308Didn't you say it was just bait?
>>739588942The first image...
>>739589418Alright, I'll assume you've checked.
>>739589356Because you're easy? Like all werehog fans?
Wasn't SA2 written by a guy who knew basically nothing about Sonic and just wrote the story he wanted while ignoring everything most of the lore?
>>739589372I, incorrectly, called the post bait because: >first post I was replying to called the combat one of the worst>I responded showing that it wasn't>they responded by questioning my game experience >I took that as them shifting the goalposts to piss me offMea cupa. My fault.
The real answer is making sa3 without effort would do quite the damage to sega image, already not so bright anymore. There is not a single 3d sonic game since ironically sa2 that wasn't half-assed in some way, even those few ones I like.
>>739589512>easy to baitFuck! I hate that you're right!
>>739589621>>I responded showing that it wasn'tUh, no. You didn't show anything. You just said the bad thing is actually good.
>>739589512That's funny, you basically confirmed the people complaining about werehog stages are the biggest retards about complaining about something that is easy a fuck. And you'd be right; werehog stages are a breeze albeit a slow one
>>739589745Anon... he said YOU'RE easy.
>>739587874heroes suffers from so many flaws it's not funny>big robot dudes with inflated health pools are a pain to deal with. it's so bad most people just save team blast for them. you bounce off them to your doom more often than not>rail switching sucks dick so much most people jump manually and even switch to flight formation. this wasn't fixed until shadow the hedgehog>grabbing onto handles is a pain since homing attacks don't target them and the timing is unforgiving>getting hit gets you propelled in the direction opposite from where you're facing. this means that attempting to dodge backwards makes enemies DRAG YOU towards them instead of pushing you away
>>739589767I'm ignoring his poor attemtp at outrage and focusing on the worthwhile bits.
>>739589745The complaint is that it's not fun. This is why I told you to grow up. You can't engage genuinely and you have to make shit up. Walking stereotype of a sonic fan.
SA3 can't happen because Sonic Team wrote Shadow and Silver into a corner. Like what you want Maria and Blaze "dying" again?
>>739589917No, you misread and you don't want to admit it.
>>739589954>The complaint is that it's not fun.No, that's a subjective complaint. There are people that will find that entertaining
>>739584026I'm convinced there's a way to make 3d sonic fast in a way that 2d is.My first thought is to add upcoming hazard indicators on easy mode or on the first time you visit a stage, so that you can run fast and know when something is about to slow you down. Adding onto this, holding the button that allows you to avoid the hazard (jump, slide, w/e) automatically ignores one instance of the hazard, though to compensate pressing and holding the jump button won't do anything until you let go or hit one of those hazards.I'd also like the ability to input directions when using the homing attack, which by default would go straight forward, This would allow the devs to have enemies fire attacks that have a weak point to either counterattack or dodge (probably based on context or whenever you've dodged all the attacks it has launched up until the last one, where now instead of homing attack to dodge and return to the center, you're homing attack to dodge and hit the enemy).I know Sonic currently only works thanks to jank physics, like stopping a loopdeeloop sometimes has you just stand upside down instead of falling, so I'd turn those spectacles into essentially cutscenes, with a booster at the front so it gives the illusion that if you were going slower before entering you're now moving faster because of the booster and not because agency is being taken away.I'm tempted to add a homing arrow, which will point you to the closest way to get back on to your intended path. Maybe beating a course once gives you the ability to change which path you're trying to home onto, with the default path being the easiest way to beat the stage and not look for any secrets, and collecting whatever secrets lie on the other paths grays out the path in future visits so you don't waste your time when trying to 100% a course.
>>739590005You'll miss at your attempt of outrage every single time.
>>739590045And you have a subjective defense.
>>739590121No; I'm not stating werehog sections are anything yet.
>>739584150adventure 3 without a chao garden would be fucking garbagetheir PC port was already fucking garbage, they fucked up jewel chao, shiny chao, chao transportthere's no fucking way modern sega would be able to make a good game
>>739589686Re-read>first post I was replying to called the combat one of the worst>I responded showing that it wasn't>>one of the worst>Nigga, you haven't played many BAD beat 'em ups have you? It is NO WHERE NEAR the level of slop as ride to hell nor as pointlessly padded out/dull as Dead Rising 4. Play more games.>>739589954>>739589767Anon... that isn't me...
>>739590201>Anon... that isn't me...shhhhh... don't tell her, keep her happy
>>739590201You didn't show anything.
>>739590168>I have no contributionokay, I look forward to your next reply
>>739585907There's only ever been one good sonic game and that's generations
>>739584396>Surge will be in SA3Now that I think about it, it would be the perfect game to introduce even more characters with the way they did the team stories. You have Team Sonic, Team Rose, Team Dark, then you introduce the IDW characters in some other team like Tangle, Whisper, and Lanolin as the Diamond Cutters, then Surge, Kit and Starline he's alive right? on another team. Then bring the rest of characters too, Team Chaotix, Babylon Rogues...Or my dream Sonic game: Sonic Musou, then you can use all those obscure characters without needing to write them some big story or anything. Just put them there and give them different movesets to every characters, not that hard with almost every character in the franchise being unique enough.Just do something and go fucking crazy, SEGA. Please.
>>739587874Heroes is a perfect game. It doesn't need a remake. Now a sequel? That, I'd play.
>>739590095You're so upset that:1. you reply to every post I make2. you just started samefagging here >>739590260 to soothe yourself3. you can't admit that you misread something when you clearly did4. you have to twist other people's arguments to come out of this with a moral victoryYou have an opportunity to prove me wrong. But we both know you're not going to take it. Because you're a sonicfag and you dedicate as much time to being bullied as you dedicate to excusing bad games.
>>739590298>The game that was essentially a best-of compilation that has no story, rehashed stages, no visual identity, no replayability value, on-rails controls in 3d, slippery and inaccurate controls in 2d is the only good sonic gameYou're too young to have an opinion
>>739590480Why did you depict yourself as an angry nigga having a nigga moment?
>>739590201Right, your argument is that a bad beat-em-up is okay because there are worse beat-em-ups out there.
>>739590578don't worry anon, it's just bait. everyone's just baiting you.
>>739584026What makes a Sonic Adventure game a Sonic Adventure game? I can come up with some elements but I don't know if it's 100% accurate>focus on story and lore>boostless plataforming focused fully 3D speed, mecha and treasure hunting stages>lots of playable characters>chao gardenBoth Adventure games feature these but no other game in the series does, there's a honest argument about '06 being a unofficial SA3 but honestly the game is so shit I'm glad isn't called SA3.
having an argument in a sonic thread on 4chan is peak masculinity.
>>739590652I dunno if 06 was ever intended to be SA3 but it very clearly attempts to follow the same formula. I read somewhere that they were actually planning to bring back the chao garden but the veracity of this claim is up for doubt.>>739590748And we're happy to have you participate.
>>739584150Aren't they just spiteful of Whitehead? His game did better than whatever shit game they released at the time. It was Forces wasn't it? Lmao
>>739590480>You're so upset thatThat's a coping way to twist stuff. But then again, only to you people is upset if replies to you.
You guys take the 06 = SA3 every single time. Every. Single. Time.And it derails any discussion about the next adventure-style games.Every. Single. Time.Just ignore the title semantics trolls, please.
>>739590835>only to you people is upset if replies to yousaar?
>>739590578gottem>>739590796Or Whitehead is not falling for it and working with SEGA again.
In order to make a good SA3, they first need to unfuck all the personalities of the main characters.>Tails isn't a fucking nerd whizz know it all and is just a kid who is learning how to be more confident and happens to know some things about repairing and flying a plane rather than being Eggman but good>Knuckles isn't a dumb drooling retard but a noble guardian protector who just happens to be stubborn and headstrong>Amy isn't "LISTEN TO MY GURLBOSS ROAR" but an actual love interest for Sonic>Eggman is a truly ingenious threat that actually keeps the heroes on their toes rather than a bumbling fool whose purpose is to get destroyed by the second boss and fly away screaming into the sky before eldritch monster or New Villain (TM) shows up to replace him.>Sonic is an actual edgy teenage punk who does batshit insane things rather than being the overly nice lame dad who wouldn't dare make another character annoyed or angry>Rouge is a true bond-esque flirtatious spy rather than the one bitch that just shows up and says things>metal sonic actually does things other than race sonic in stardust speedway bad future for the 5 millionth timeThe only main character who hasn't been fucked up is Shadow, somehow.
>>739590771>And we're happy to have you participate.sorry anon i was just dipping in and skimming through, i'm going to bed now, got my pjs on. gnight and good luck.
>>739590867*Saar>>739590853>You guys take the 06 = SA3 every single time. Every. Single. Time.It's proven due the enviromental storytelling here >>739586176
>>739590921Right, my bad.Saar?
Sega could make millions of dollars just by putting SA2 on the eShop or modern PSN.
the third sonic adventure game is heroes, and the sequel to SA2 is shadow. You just need to accept that having two good games back to back in SA1 -> SA2 was just a fluke run of two heads in a row in this coinflip of a series, and that there is no deeper secret to Adventure that makes it good.
>>739590921It's not the title, though? Really confused here. Why do people keep saying this? It doesnt make sense.
>>739590960Do.
>>739588079He says as their most recent game was Frontiers, a game consisting of... forcing "dumbfuck gimmicks" except it's the entire game design. >B-B-B-BUT XSHADOW!You mean the game literally aping another game from over 10 years ago so they're FORCED to do something similar which ends up making it good by default? lol. Okay.
>>739590835>esl
>>739590992>It's not the title, though?But it has the gameplay and campaign structure which is far more important.
So then whats the next adventure supposed to be?If all 2000-2010 era Sonic games were all adventure sequels what are we up to, SA6?
>>739590992Make sense to me. Maybe you're just dumb.
>>739591016>muh eslWhy does that non-argument seems to trigger you?
>>739591147Why does huh? Why wuh?
>>739591030>>739591062I mean sure, but if some game series had releases like this:>Game 1>Game 2>Game: Darkness Falls... No one would call "Game: Darkness Falls" "Game 3", everyone would call it "Game: Darkness Falls". Why is it different with Sonic?
>>739591214It's not, you're just dumb. Nobody is actually claiming this is literally canonically Sonic Adventure 3.
>>739591175Are you okay, anon?
>>739591282It very much seems like people are arguing vehemently that "Sonic the Hedgehog" released in 2006 is indeed "Sonic Adventure 3".
>>739591214Stop falling for obvious bait, retard. "Sonic 06 = SA3" has been common bait in every Sonic thread for years.
>>739584026Who fucking cares, gimmie Sonic Advance 4.
>>739591012Literally every good idea anybody here has for a Sonic game is to ape older games and replace the bad parts with good parts. Dismissing Shadow for doing just that and discrediting its accomplishments is extremely feminine.
>>739591334I understand that subtext escapes you.
>>739591214Sonic 06 was named that way for a simple name convention; a renewall period for the IP... Sega fucked up that dev cycle 100%>Reboot the series name with the name making a statement this is a new beggining and step forward for the IP>Ends up in infamy as the lowest point of itSEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>739591308No, I'm a Sonic fan and I need to convince people that mediocrity is acceptable because insulting Sonic is like insulting ME. It's terminal.
>>739591383Oh, you're just a faggot, sorry I missed that. I'll catch on quicker next time.
>>739591478You haven't even caught on to the argument yet.
>>739591369What the fuck do I give a shit about faggots bitching on 4chan for what they think would make a "good" game when most of them are shit? You are a slop consumer and apologist, pathetic bitch for praising Sonic Team for being able to put out the BARE minimum of quality, which, again, RIPPED off another game in its same package. It's the equivalent of releasing an HD remaster of a game that was already good, adding some bells and whistles, and pretending it's an entirely new entry and the company "finally has it together". Just cut to the part where you say you like Shadow 05 unironically like a stockholmed retard.
>>739584263>2026, I am forgotten
>>739591369NTA but what did Shadow accomplish? I liked the idea of branching paths. Everything else in terms of game design was 0/10 to me.
>>739591517Wow, reading comprehension. Are you serious?
>>739591571Prove me wrong. French fries aren't actually french, by the way. I know you struggle with subtext.
>>739591526THANK you.Sonicfags will see eat any dogshit and say "it's not THAT bad." Shadow game, 06, werehog, forces, you name it, sonicfags like it.
>>739591526There's nothing bare minimum about Shadow, it's obviously 100x better than your favorite 3D Sonic and anyone who's not a delusional Sonic fanboy would agree.
>>739591626Oh you are hilarious, sweetie. Please, keep going.
>>739591469That's too self-deprecating but, whatever works for ya
>>739591778What do you want me to talk about?
>>739591872CHILLI DOGS
>>739591821That's life. I have to defend the werehog. By any means necessary.
>>739591956Oh yeah, that crap game Sonic Unleashed has chili dog missions. That game only played by the lowest and most loyal bootlicking dogs.
>>739590994The.
>>739585960is there money in a sonic 06 remake though?
>>739584026Perhaps they know they lack the talent to make a game that would meet the expectations and hype of a legit SA3So unlike square's retarded asses that just continue to do what they want and assume everyone will just show up and bleed momey for them ...I think Sega is being quite reasonable
>>739590892The issue is that it was adventure 1 and 2 that made Knuckles into a retard.
>>739584157>SA3 with the current writersI could not give more of a genuine fuck, Frontiers has the exact same "Disney straight to DVD movie" writing as Adventure had and you are too autistic even for me if you care>Voice actorsAdventure 2 has the worst voice acting of any game in the series>Character modelsThe only significant chage any of the characters ever had since 1999 was in the 2D promotional material
>>739592134his entire schtick in sonic 3 and knuckles is getting fooled by robotnikand in sa2 he was the least retarded he'd been by that point
>>739592245>Frontiers has the exact same "Disney straight to DVD movie" writing as Adventure haddisingenuous child detectedno more serious replies for you, only bullying
>>739591762It's not even better than the game it's based off because it's not even a full game. What will your next cope be?
>>739591567Anon, it had over 9999 different non-endings where Shadow talks to the camera and sometimes a different characters appears in the background, why are you not impressed?
>>739584026I am convinced the announcement of this game would actually be a huge cultural event. I think people sleep on just how impactful and remembered these Adventure games were. I am a lot more of a 2D fan myself but I did have Dreamcast and enjoyed the Adventure games. It seems clear to me a ton of people have a whole lot of nostalgia for these games. And after the Adventure games is when Sonic became a multiplatform series and also even shortly went to shit with that 06 game. Then after that Sega made these Sonic games mostly about super speedy boost type of gameplay. I really do think that the Adventure games have a huge aura to them. A third game would no doubt in my mind shift massive amounts of units even if it wasn't a great game.
>>739592494Unironically I am impressed that they named every possible route.
>>739591347Who said it was bait? It's very obviously SA3, they changed the name because they knew it was shit and didn't want to blacken the legacy of the company and games even further.
>>739584026You expect modern Sonic Team to make Adventure 3 and for it to be good?
>Sega could have made a Chao Garden mobile game at any time at any point during mobile gaming's peaks and valleys>Back when all games cost money>Or when all games had ads>Or when all games were gachas>Never did
>>739592665I just pondered, but are there any mobile "sim" games that are live service and still active?
Obviously they don't have the talent to do it anymore but yhey might as well since their audience has no standards. Look at this thread, fags defending sonic 06 and the werehog and shadow the hedgehog will love SA3 even if it's the worst game in the series.
>>739592665I hear this pitch a lot and I'm glad they didn't make it, but... yeah, why didn't they?
>>739584026sorry but you're getting sonic frontiers 2 instead
>>739592954eh, better a bad game with an already tainted subtitle than a bad game called adventure 3
I'm genuinely puzzled they haven't made a Chao Garden standalone multiplayer game.It seems like such a no-brainer
>>739590796Forces far outsold Mania actually.
>>739590196It would have a Chao Garden phone app.
>>739585995It was deserved for this game
>>739584026We already had Adventure 3 twice, Sonic 06 and Unleashed.
>>739585907Yeah but if anything, Sega is the one that will likely want to fuck up things thinking theyre doing good for the brand
>>739593642*gacha Chao Garden phone app.Need some fruits? Here's a pack of 5 for $19.99.
>>739591526>>739591702HOLY mind broke
>>739593857genius
>10 months since last uploadI hope he’s doing alright I miss him.
>>739584026They already made it in 2006 buddy
>>739592549If this ever got announced people would die from heart attacks
>TFW we’re getting a 4th Sonic Movie before a game with Sonic Adventure 3 in the title. *Laughs in Bubsy 4D*
>>739593972Watching him speculating ever since the Sonic drought that started in 2019 and the Frontiers leaks and rumors was pretty entertaining, sadly he went retarded with his takes when the franchise was recovering also being very pro ai, idk if hw will return to speculate about Frontiers 2 but if he does, i will be there for it
>>739592954Frontiers 2 needs to have more lively worlds and let you do better bonding events with the main characters. You don't even need to voice most the interactions. The emptiness sucks so much dick.
No Omelette no buy.
>>739593972Not a single 2D section!
>>739584026There's not a reason for them from making it happen, but i feel that boat has sailed a long ago, the open zone formula feels the most closest the adventure games so i kinda don't mind
>>739589870The only valid criticism here is the rail switching which only becomes a problem at high speed. You can shred the big robots even at level 0 with power formation (unless they have a helmet and these only exist near the end). Enemies taking too long to kill shows a blatant misunderstanding of how to play the game. You're never required to homing attack into a handle over a pit so I don't know why this is even a problem, and for the most part the homing attack does lock on to them. I genuinely have no idea what you're trying to say about getting knocked back from hits, you're also invincible for a short period of time, and unlike most Sonic games, you can act again during the knockback to recover onto a platform.
>>739584026the only people that want SA3 are pedophiles and Sega would be giving them what they want.
>>739584026They're not confident they can make it good and then they will be out of their break the glass in case of emergency game.
Why is it that these 3D Sonic games have so much 2D platforming sections in the levels? This screams like lazy bad game design to me.
i love sonic girls
>>739595292not making a dating sim is another proof of sega hating money. i feel like the VN was kind of a nod to that.
>>739584026They shouldn't use that name if they're incapable of living up to it.
>>739591972I respect the commitment anon
>>739592245>you are too autistic even for having the slightest standardsI hate zoomers so much
>>739595292Remember that game you grew up with?Well it's time to buy the sequel with our themed underwear!
If Frontiers 2 has a city themed map, i will consider it SA3 personally
>>739594831>You can shred the big robots even at level 0 with power formationonly with knuckles (mash action, knuckles lets out a flurry of punches) and omega (somewhat). big and vector suck>(unless they have a helmetyeah, those are the ones I was talking about>and these only exist near the end).so?>You're never required to homing attack into a handle over a pit so I don't know why this is even a problembecause it kills all momentum. imagine if you had segments where you walk towards a door in the middle of a level in sonic unleashed or generations. the whiplash would be terrible>I genuinely have no idea what you're trying to say about getting knocked back from hitsit's simple>stand in middle of platform>try to dodge enemy standing on ledge by moving away from it>instead of bouncing away, get drawn in and fall off ledgeyou also reminded me that power formation will happily slide off edges unless you let go of the stickand rocket accel sucks dick compared to SA1 and SA2's spindashand flight formation is shit (upwards bounce kills your momentum 99% of the time)
>>739584157OPEN YOUR HEART, IT'S GONNA BE ALRIIIIIIGHT!
>>739584157I assume most of those things would have changed already when they eventually get to Adventure 3
>>739587874Feels like the most logical remake since they cant use renderware anymore, if it happens, i hope it's internal, ever since colors ultimate i don't trust outsourcing the series to non-sega devs
I don't think Shadow and Silver are interesting enough to carry another adventure game.
We unironically just need another Chao Garden
>>739592245>Adventure 2 has the worst voice acting of any game in the seriesSonic 06 literally has a dude correct himself and reread the script mid line and it made it into the finished product, you absolute fucking clown. https://youtu.be/tV5gSnrDOI4?si=kggrfmxdS9nDZ7b0
>>739596148I can understand if they want to focus on new stuff tham continuing the Adventure sage but then not making a new Chao Garden either standalone or integrated into a mainline game will always be retarded
>>739592245>>739596317SA1's voice acting is much worse but I'll say that the only good performance for that cast is Heroes.
>>739584026Isn't that basically what Sonic 06 was?
>>739596353*sagaHeh, sage
>>739594185Fuck off, reject
>>739596883This post made me realize despite how cringe the support for Eggman Female is, I'd rather have that headcanon bullshit than the absolute faggotry Sage brought to the franchise. Christ, it would be way better.
>>739596883Sage has Modern Eggman. Omelette gets Classic Eggman.
>>739594185>>739596883Holy shit two cakes
>>739597338i love big butt sage
>>739597052How is it any worse than what Rouge, Blaze, and Surge brought?
>>739595724Bro thinks he’s on the team
>>739584263>No Adventure in the title>No Chao GardenIt aint Adventure nigga. The Chao Garden especially is required.
>>739584263It's not titled Sonic Adventure 3 so objectively speaking, no it is not.
>>739597548Yeah, that fucker can't just stay in the future.
>>739597390IDWslop isn't canon, don't mention them. Also you have no idea what you're talking about or what I mean.
>>739597338Shitcakes do not count as food, saar.
>>739598992>he doesn't know
>>739598992>It's not canon!Frontiers and that official Chaotix radio drama thing kinda killed that notion.
>>739584026It's called Spark 3
The Arle festival is this week, bros!
>>739599251Waiting for wednesday and hoping some anon makes a thread that night so we can make some fun lobbies to test drive our Arles.
>>739599385arle on arle violence...
>>739599251Can't wait
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The sole positively remarkable quality of the Adventure games is their holistic reflection of the late 90s/early 00s. They are not very good, and whatever is good about them is something nobody is going to capture in the 2020s.Besides, >>739584263 is right.
>>739584026That's the emergency button
>>739584026It would have been cool 20 years ago, but going for this now would be awful.
>>739590873Didn't he say Sega outright wasn't interested in Mania 2?I could totally buy that "Sega of japan is fucking seething at the americans" happened again, seems like thats Sonics Achiles Heel
>>739584263>SA1Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania >SA2San Francisco, Los AngelesSA3 must take place in a third American city. No American city, not SA3.
>>73958574006 is designed as an Adventue game thoughever.Different team based stories, the levels are more exploration based than something like Heroes or Shadow, the game has a heavy emphasis in the narrative, has an open world hub that you NEED to interact with to progress.Hell it's a direct improvement to the adventure formula (DESIGN WISE) by making the three main characters decently different gameplay wise unlike Team Hero and team Dark being carbon copies in A2Of course the execution is by all means shit, but that design doc is an iterative improvement of SA2
Why are sonic fans so obsessed with sexual assault? isn't twice enough?
>>739600109Detroit
>>739598992>IDWslop isn't canonSega themselves said it is. Several of the characters have been in or been mentioned in several games.
>>739589870To be fair, doesn't this mean it would be a great game to revisit and cleanup?
>>739600132>isn't twice enough?
>>739585995Shadow Generations may not be the world of difference some people make it out to be, but frankly? Frontiers' DLC was starting to show some honest to god improvements despite some stupid design choices, and then Shadow Gens was a surprisingly solid game if still wonky with jumps eating all speed. This Sonic Team CAN do some good shit if you just let them work up to it, but I imagine it's only a matter of time until Sega guts them again.
Wish this flavor of the month bitch would stop showing up everywhere.
>>739600317I just wish shadow gens wasn't a 2hr long game. I wasn't paying $50 for that.
>>739600375Funniest thing was sega not allowing switch owners of shadow gens to upgrade to the switch 2 port
>>739600109ACKTUALLY>SA1 takes place in “Not New York”>SA2 takes place in “Not Los Angeles”>SA3 takes place in...What fake city will it be for SA3?Not Seattle, Not Houston, maybe some other country and could be Not London or Not Paris.It'd be cool to revisit one of the Unleashed locations though.Oh wait I forgot 06 takes place in Not Venice
>>739600368That's what happens when egoraptor spends his parents money on astroturfing. Nobody cares about that shit except for e-celeb worshippers.
>>739597338Are you a Beta Tester anon?
>Chao garden is a legendary feature and meme among even young Sonic fans>No shitty phone game that's just the Chao garden and racingI would argue that they actively avoid being too profitable.
>>739600451I think the cat it's fun and it's a good excuse to draw an anthro furry with big tits and short frame in different vidya costumesI have no idea of how her feet are supposed to look and that fucks me up when trying to give her shoes
>>739600509They know people want it and they just aren't interested in doing it. I don't know why but it is what it is
>>739584026Because they're retards.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwNCTF857J0
>>739600514You don't need an excuse. Just draw what you want instead of needing my approval.
>>739600121By you're definition SA2 isn't even an Adventure game but SA1 and 06 are.
>>739600431>New YorkIncorrect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Station_Square>Los AngelesIncorrect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Gate_BridgeCity Escape's inclines are also only in San Francisco.
>>739599732what is she feeling here?
>>739600368>flavor of the monthOh that's why I keep seeing that character in every thread. What's even the game? I don't see anyone talking about it when they post her.
>>739600901Domination
>>739599385i'll only be able to lurk cause i don't want to buy crossworlds just yet even though arle is very cute but maybe they'll have some of the few puyo autists on this board until whenever the fuck something new comes out for the series.
>>739593038Did it? What numbers do we have for either game?
How is Sonic Superstars?
>>739603642It's average. Unfinished soundtrack so the back end of the game is filled with Sonic 4-isms when they don't reuse from Mania, dogshit rancid bad boss fights designed for co-op multiplayer, the co-op itself is horrible since the game is designed like a classic Sonic game but with the camera following the leader so imagine Tails chases with up to 4 people at once, and the level design just more boring and uninteresting the further you get in.It's a totally OKAY game all things considered, especially with mods for making the bosses less excessively long and unfucking the soundtrack a bit with fan effort, but the only reason I'd rank it above the Sonic 4 episodes is because it actually has relatively new ideas with itself instead of shameless retreads. If it weren't for that, no Mania-exact physics in the world would save it from being a pretty bottom tier Classic game. But hey, to each their own.
>>739603721>the co-op itself is horrible since the game is designed like a classic Sonic game but with the camera following the leader so imagine Tails chases with up to 4 people at onceOh wow this is really dumb. What the hell were they thinking?
>>739603978They were thinking to crib from New Super Mario Bros. with their own second attempt at the idea. But holy shit it's so bad. If someone drops off the screen, you can press a button to just spawn on the camera leader whenever outside of scripted setpieces, but it becomes a flailing disaster mess of chaos. Also prone to people spawning in and then they fall through the floor and die, or somehow causing players to desync if they were underwater or not and drowning above water.
>>739584263they hated anon, for he spoke trvke.
>>739590382I think what pisses me off the most is how between Sonic Battle, Heroes, Frontiers, Shadow Gens and Rumble, character diversity in movesets is at an all-time high yet they refuse to capitalize it for one big game. i don't care if its a musou, a fightan, SA3 or Heroes 2, just fucking make something cool with these ideas, sega. ideally not as a fucking mobile game
>>739605032Wrong
>>739605206Honestly I think Black Knight is the closest they got to a Musou. They probably wanted to do one but were hung up on it being an actual Sonic game, so it was defaulted to the Secret Rings onrail style of gameplay as a default. I mean hell, you wield a weapon, mow down dozens of enemies easily, have one on one boss fights, seems pretty easy to see. The problem with Musous is that you can't simply just "make" one if you want a good one. Like yeah a literal Sonic skinned DW game would probably sell either way because of drooling normies and retards, but to make it FUN and UNIQUE is the important thing. What's Sonic's greatest uniqueness for the series is also its greatest weakness: the exact emphasis on speed. That is Sonic's entire identity. If you remove the speed, you don't have Sonic. Translation: FUCK UNLEASHEDAnd this is why Mario has unironically shined over Sonic, because Mario is presented as "fun". Not "hardcore", not "alternative", not emphasizing on a specific aspect except being fun. That's why most Mario games FEEL like Mario games despite not being platformers. So Sonic has had a huge chain to itself since day 1. Call it naive foresight from young foolish overambition. So how do you make a Musou emphasized on speed when you already kill hundreds of enemies in minutes, and not just having it be dashing around the map to clear a stage? These are the types of questions you have to seriously consider to make something genuine...
The way I see it, there hasn't been a sonic adventure 3 because they haven't been READY to make a sonic adventure 3.The time will come when the time comes.
>>739607516So 20 years ago then? Call me a time traveler, because I have just the game for you...
>>739590892oh, yeah.Yeah, they'd need to get another writer that's not Ian Flynn. He is not who we need...
>>739607543No he means 3000 years from now. That will be the perfect time for Sonic Adventure 3.
>>739584263Unleashed is basically SA3, or at least a spiritual successor to it. It's literally called Sonic World Adventure in Japanese
>>739584443>>739598247Completely arbitrary reason as to why it isn't 3 even though the rest of the gameplay is clearly Adventure. The "it's not called 3" argument is better than this shit
>>739585740Always hilarious when westerners take localisations as gospel. Unleashed is World Adventure
>>739586118The level design in 06 is horrible
>>739600904The next Digital Circus slop
>>739603642>How is Sonic Superstars?It’s Super Trash
>>739608387I'll give you that it's closer than 06 will ever be but there still is no Sonic Adventure 3 and that's a fact.
I'm pretty sure Sonic 06 was intended to be Adventure 3 during development.It didn't go well. No one that works with Sonic these days will ever do better.
>>739584026The Sonic Adventure 3 title is reserved for SEGA's inevitable comeback to the console market with their hybrid console coming out in 2027 that will launch with SA3 and Persona 6 as launch titles
>>739585041It's a sequel to SA2.But Structurally it's closer to heroes, with 1 character.
>Sonic Frontiers was supposed to be the last Sonic game, good sales saved the franchise!>After Shadow Generations, crickets.So that was a fucking lie, eh?
>>739609209Isn't Unleashed the one where Sonic becomes a furry? How is it more similar to Sonic Adventure than 06? I thought Adventure's thing is having multiple storylines and playing as different characters, which is what 06 does.
I mean Heroes, 06, Forces, Shadow and the one with the warewolf could all technically qualify for an "Adventure 3". They just didn't call it that.For me the criteria for an actual Adventure 3 would be at least:>Chao garden that expands on the last one.>Variations of It Doesn't Matter, Believe in myself etc for the character's themes. Same lyrics, different tune. Plus an overarching buttrock song, all preferably sung by Crush40.>Multiple playable characters who's stories intertwine with the plot, and a final story with Super Form(s)>Stupid grandiose story that takes itself too seriously and not seriously at the same time.Do that and that would be a valid entry to the Adventure series for me.
>2026>PC port for 06 still has only the three stagesDeader than Yandere Sim
>>739584263Honestly I wouldn't mind a remaster of 06 if it added more stages, added a Chao garden, refine the gameplay and just call it SA3. The story for 06 isn't bad and Sliver was a great character with cool powers. Either that or make another sonic riders
The staff members that worked on SA1 and SA2 are long gone. Yuji Naka himself is gone. They don't have the source code to recreate it. They attempted to make SA3 with StH 2006 but failed miserably. It received bad ratings and they are scared to revive it. The original voice actors for SA1 + SA2 are also long gone too. Crush 40 hasn't made a memorable Sonic song since Live and Learn. Just let it go.
>>739584026>People said the very same thing about Square Enix and a FF7 remake>FF7 Remake comes out>Sales are alright but profits are 'underwhelming'>Stocks continue to plummet and they lost the 'break in case of emergency' card they hadI dunno anon...
>>739610037Their tactic of releasing it in 3 parts shot them in the foot imo. Doubly so the fact that, from what I've seen, they are going to just have Sephiroth at the end of all of them. Put some fucking creativity into it.
>>739584026They'd be hating money if they didn't start development for as many games as "Sonic Adventure 3" to begin with
>>739610826>Sonic X doesn't cover any of these gamesWhile that is a good thing, it shows none of these were meant to be Sonic Adventure 3.
>>739595789Most brainless response itt
>>739584263They won't even accept that the Adventure games are shit.
>>739609839One thing. The setting.
>>739611010YACKO!
>>739611259TROO FAR!!!!!
>>739610665The game themselves being trash doesn't help either. 'That' scene with Red XIII basically made me lose all thoughts of buying any possible super pack they'd do with the 3 parts all in one or whatever.
>>739609101Many such cases. No wonder no one was even talking about the character.
>>739584443BASED
>>739584026They don't hate it. They probably just lost the knowledge to recreate the A-Life system again, and like this anon said >>739584443 you can't have a new Adventure game without the Chao.
>>739614772chao were just filler to make you replay the levels anon. just proto-gacha without the P2W/P2Skip aspectI can't believe anyone would fall for it. hell, I'm sure absolutely everyone exploited the easy stats glitch because fuck the grind
If we do get a sonic adventure 3, what kind of story do you think they'll go for? In 2 they introduced shadow, and from what I can see they really wanna bring IDW characters into the mainline games, do you think they'll just take a few IDW arcs and mash em into a game and call it a day or what? Then again zombot saga has potential to make for a fun story/game if they play it right, and if im being honest im a little biased because I really like surge and would love to see her be official Canon in the games, so personally i'd likely enjoy it even if it wound up being slop.
