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>day 3
>already dead
what happened??
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>>739601561
>what happened??
They included women in the game
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>>739601561
probably had something to do with the devs refusing to acknowledge feedback
weird to even have an alpha test if you don't fix the problems literally every player had with it
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>dwarves
Stopped reading there, found the problem. Dwarves do not sell.
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>>739601608
>take thing boys like as a "boys zone"
>shove women in there, make them ugly
>wtf why is the game failing!?!?!?
one day they may learn
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>>739601561
devs listened to troons
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>>739601561
you have to play as a fat smelly woman instead of a fat smelly dwarf
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>>739601561
It will become engoodened in a few months

screenshot this post
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>>739601561
The main problems (timer and shared upgrades) feel like less of an issue the more you play the game. It has a learning curve for sure. The biggest issue in my opinion is that guns are shared which is a WAY bigger deal than upgrades. It decides what you're going to be sticking with the entire run unless you waste a workbench taking another one, and the last person should never only get 2 options. Let us choose which guns to start with, that's all.
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>>739601747
When's the last time a game that had to wait to be engoodened actually recovered?
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>>739601775
Fallout 76
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>>739601625
there was a video of a playtester who said the feedbacks on the negative reviews were the exact ones they gave to the devs
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>>739601775
i believe no man's sky did
it also might be the only one to ever do so
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>>739601673
Imagine if they went the opposite route and instead of adding ugly women to the playable characters they added sexy stripper elves to the base that you could tip by throwing precious rocks at them.
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>>739601561
>what if we make the exact same game but in a stupid genre and worse in every way
We'll never know.
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I'm having fun but sometimes the asset reuse does not make sense.
Why would you take scout's flaregun when standing still isn't an objective?
Why are pistols so bad and you change them out so early?
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>>739601795
>i believe no man's sky did
It didn't it's still a boring game where nothing happens. They just added more Sims furniture.
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>>739601561
It should have been a new expansion of base game, not a stand alone game
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>>739601980
to be honest seeing what they "added", i'm glad the original isn't being raped currently
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>>739601803
>elves

you don't get it
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>>739602031
Nothing better than degrading elves.
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>>739601561
added ugly foids failure was deserved
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>>739601561
>redditrock
Why is this even a question?
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>>739601625
The gunplay of DRG is not good enough to stand on its own, and it on the forefront of Rogue Core, what make DRG fun is the horseshit happen between shooting, like jumping down on engineer platform without cushion upgrade
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>>739601673
the game is also shit on top of that for various other reasons, but yeah, pretty much.

none of them would think of shoving some manic pixie dream girl with huge tits into LADS, because they know their female audience would be pissed off by that.
none of them would make a game where you play as a girlboss and then at the end it tells you that your husband rightfully left you for being such an annoying spastic bitch, and you deserve to be cucked.
the Sims wouldn't make tweet after tweet telling everyone that female gamers are dead, because they know that would be retarded as fuck to do.

but they will absolutely do this kind of crap to games for men and then expect men to continue pumping money into those games anyway.
they've grown too comfortable in their misandry.
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>>739602218
>their female audience
No sich thing
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>>739601795
No mans sky is still a shit game with the depth of a puddle, you are just a fucking retard that got tricked by a shill video made by another retard.
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>>739601795
Nah I waited almost a decade to try NMS and genuinely wanted to like it, but it's boring shit and lacks basic features like the ability to swap yaw and roll flight inputs.
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>>739602396
LADS is not being played by men, Anon.
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>>739601561
One of the classic blunders: They didn't read the room.
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>>739602737
there's like a 5-10% men population in LADS xis
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>>739602782
they refused out of pride
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>>739601561
>30 dollars for Early Access
>Only 1 game mode on offer
>Much of it is reused assets from their previous game
>Systems currently encourage selfishness on part of the players to improve their own personal build/setups
>Hardly anyone chooses flaregun, expect things to be dark 90% of the time
>Is just deep-dives, but longer, and with even more randomness

Quite a lot of reasons.
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>make a successful game
>get arrogant, stop putting in effort, and ignore feedback
>game flops
many such cases
the writing was on the wall with the current state of drg
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>>739602804
I stand corrected.
What a bunch of fags.
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>>739602782
I wonder why these types of people even bother with gathering feedback, kek
If you already know you're an arrogant fuck who believes he's always right and will not listen to feedback anyway, why even bother.
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Game is so stingy with ammo holy shit just lemme use my cool weapons. At least in DRG you could double dip in a two man team but why are the supply pods limited here?????
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How many years has it been since DRG was put in maintenance mode?
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>>739601561
Reminds me of KSP2. They essentially released the same game with less content and no mods for a higher price.
Veterans will go back to playing the first game or move on entirely. Newcomers will be met with recommendations to just buy the first game instead.
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>>739601653
>Dwarves do not sell.
Dwarves sell amazingly.

DEI slop does not.
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They killed the first game for this
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Just buy Endless Alice instead.
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>woke + retard game design + rehash
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>foid dwarf? surely it can't be that bad
>
what the fuck is that
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>>739602218
What the fuck is LADS?
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>>739602845
acktually, you unlock a new game mode when you promote your first dwarf
so there is two :)
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>>739603878
LADS being a game where all the characters are men like gears of war or god of war and shoving in female characters that are strong and independant that dont need no man
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>>739603769
>you can even give "her" a beard
lamo
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>>739604118
Oh, it's that porn game for women. Why the fuck would you use an abbreviation for that like everyone knows the name.
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>>739601673
They made it for reddit coomers who are their main playerbase and wanted dwarf women
however they were just virtue signaling about representation and what they meant is they wanted shortstacks to commission r34 of
>>739601803
adding all-female elves was the OBVIOUS answer and they should have been a rival faction of some sort
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>>739604169
gee maybe because no one knows the name or abbreviation anyways and the abbreviation is a pun related to it being a porn game for women
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>>739601561
>procedurally generated co-op fps
oh joy
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>>739603031
They needed the feedback to suck their dick and give them validation. They probably got angry when that didn't happen.
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>roguelite
>missions are 45mins - 1 hour
wtf
why
I'm not gonna say it's impossible to have a longer roguelite run, but wtf. I don't want to be stuck with 3 tards for an hour just to lose on the boss anyway.
without completely remaking the game there are some very simple fixes they could make if they wanted this game to be more fun
level up faster
slightly more ammo
level up rewards that aren't just +1% red sugar crap

it's like they looked at RoR2 and others and didn't get what was fun about those games. I've had like 2 runs in rogue core when I got to bonkers build territory. And you still get 2 shot by a soundless creeper anyway.
this game would be a lot more fun if you got to ridiculous power levels before the end of a run
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>>739604538
Just steal Chaos Wastes mode from Vermintide. That’s an hour long rouguelite mode that added an extra three years onto the game’s lifespan
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>>739601608
It's likely more than that but that's definitely part of the reason. I quit the trailer when I saw they added women and there are probably more people like me (well maybe they can finish the trailer at least but then won't play it).>>739601608
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>>739604604
yea chaos wastes was sick
dunno about the darktide version of it
only tried a couple runs before I got "spawn director-ed" to death 3 games in a row and gave up
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>>739601775
>>739601793
>>739601795
Cyberpunk 2077 (the woke gay game).
Engoodening takes many years tho
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>>739602031
100% of the core would love to stone half-naked Elves.
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>>739603769
Surely everybody is just cherrypicking all the female screenshots on /v/ from this game...?
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>>739604753
This is the only female model in the game.
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>>739601561
Honestly, even aside from the obvious stuff the game just never really developed a coherent vision. It's funny, a DRG sequel/side game was one of the few games I would have been willing to buy full price to support the devs, but I wound up not buying because the game just never really had anything that seemed inspired.
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>>739605236
>its DRG but uh... we've turned it into a roguelike!
they could've done anything else to justify a separate game, but a roguelike mode thats nothing more than a copy of the base game should just be added to the base game.
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>>739601803
HIRE THIS MAN
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I wonder if working in this game will result a net negative for the company
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>>739601561
>Dude what if DRG but shit?
what were they thinking…
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>>739603031
If I were a game dev, I would never listen to the people that play my game. Most of them are mouth breathing retards that have zero experience in game design
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>>739607265
Its all reused assets lol. Not much to loose here.
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>>739601561
game is fun has some flaws though, 5k is a lot of people dunno what you want OP it's not some normie trash game.
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>>739606982
I remember watching the trailers and wondering "surely there's more, right?"
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>>739607442
>Drg
>Redit: the game
>Not normie
Listen, tourist, this site isn't like your blue sky feed
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>>739601561
I enjoyed the first game a lot but I think I'm about to refund this one.
>replace bugs with worse enemies
>no molly
>one class is literally an ugly dwarf foid that you can't change
>pacing getting raped everytime you have to choose perks
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>>739607580
>>pacing getting raped everytime you have to choose perks
Literally the biggest problem for a game that tries to be a sped-up version of DRG and the devs have said that they're still evaluating how to fix it.
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Good times
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I honestly don't understand why they would take DRG and make it more simple but make each game take a literal hour. What the fuck they should be like 20 minutes max.
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Did they really had to add women to job that’s 99% male?
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>>739608340
They literally ruined what made DRG special.
>no driller opening up the cave into a convenient arena or drilling shortcuts
>no scout scouting ahead
>no engi building up a fortress using platforms, mines, and turrets
>no gunner using ziplines or bubble shield to help the non-scouts
teamwork overall feels less interesting and you can't even admire the destruction you've caused with how the objective is set up.
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>>739604794
Naturally they put her in the center of promotional material.
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>>739608836
DRG being all male was also special in today's gaming climate. Even the announcer was male.
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>>739608565
>>739608897
Oh sorry goyim were you having fun playing as men in your game about men? Nope, have some trannies.
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>>739601561
Shared loot happened, also way uglier female dwarves than needed, with shaven head sidecut and nigga noses
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Hire Fans
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>>739608961
Molly was the cumdumpster of the team
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>>739610748
NINTENDO
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discordsisters english only reviews slid back to mixed...
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the upgrade system starts growing on me
what doesn't seem fine is the cave gen. it feels way too cramped.
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>>739601747
Beta testers complained about the issues most negative reviews mentioned over a year ago and nothing was addressed
If you seriously think they will fix any of the core issues people have with the game within a year you're delusional.
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>>739610748
fans or your local rajeesh
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game sux and feel completely unrewarding at every step of the way
got down with depth 3 and I really don't want to waste more time to clear a d4
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>>739611064
People will say it has
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Hire me Gaben!!! :3
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>Do the tutorial and 2 missions
>Eh this game is not for me I guess I'll refund
>Time played: 2 hours and 30 minutes
Sneaky fucking jews everything in this game takes way too fucking long you pretty much have to decide if you want to refund after your first game or you're shit out of luck
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>>739601561
Should have just made a sequel with no women in it instead of whatever this bullshit is.
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Wait are the characters only women lol
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>>739611292
No one would really care if they weren't locked to classes. It's fucking retarded. Just give players a choice.
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the way DRG's development ended will never not piss me off, it was so fucking jarring and I cannot imagine what went through their heads to think people would react positively
>man, DRG is great, even though the rockpox is kind of annoying, I'm sure with the season system, that and all the other problems everyone has will be fixed along with tons of new added content, like GSG has been doing for years now
>hey guys, we've got a special announcement about deep rock galactic coming up in our next stream
>oh good, they're finally announcing the next season, it's been like 8 months, i wonder when it's coming out
>we're abandoning the game
>huh
>we're gonna work on a totally new spinoff game now
>huh
>it won't be playable for about 3 years
>huh
>we're gonna do one last small update for DRG in a few months and then that's pretty much it
>huh
>bye
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>>739611397
No, but this thing is
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>>739604150
Female dwarves in Tolkien had beards and were indistinguishable from male dwarves
If GSG were chads they would've made scout canonically a girl and called it a day
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>>739611452
she....she looks just like me....
i...thank you....
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>>739611452
I mean if its mixed then its ok. What are you guys mad about
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>>739601608
Incel moment
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>>739607485
The fact that the game has been in alpha testing since 2024 and they just came out two years later with nothing except pretty visuals and cool music is astounding to me and it's not like GSG were working on DRG either.
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>>739611595
Forcing people to play as some ugly femdwarf is retarded gamedesign.
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>>739611687
Play the present male characters?
But ig making gender assets for both is a better idea
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Devs really saw B4B leading to Turtlerock going bankrupt and decided to copy it.
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>>739611595
>>739611759
Why are you gay?
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>>739611434
The development cycle has been a total mess: they wanted at first to release Rogue Snore after Season 5 because they wanted to do another season. Then the game gets delayed and Season 6 gets outsourced to another team. RC finally comes out after its first announcement in 2023 and it's barely changed since the game went in closed alpha in 2024, leaving everyone wondering what the fuck has GSG done with the delay and extra manpower.
They also promised that once Early Access started for Rogue Core, they'd go back to DRG but that's not obviously fucking happening since the game has tons of fundamental issues that demand GSG's full attention again and for real.

Of course, nobody knows what the fuck is happening with DRG either. They slightly nerfed pit-jaws since January and that's been the extent of post-S6 support. It's been a disaster.
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>>739611856
Raping you in the comments doesnt make me gay.
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jesus this dropped fast lol
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>>739601561
>Want a sequel
>get two garbo spinoff games
Why did they do this?
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>>739611928
spoken like a true russian
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>>739601561
It doesn't feel like DRG

You can't customize your character that much and overall mechanics don't promote cooperation
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>>739611452
What were they thinking, jesus christ.
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>>739611947
I have some respect for Survivor because it's the definition of a spin-off, an actual new take on the DRG universe instead of:
>Remember DRG? Here's the bad version of it
That is called Rogue Core.
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Either the people that made DRG good are gone or it was an accident
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>>739611947
>>739612030
how many times must you be reminded Survivor is outsourced, they were allowed to use the sounds and IP
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>>739611497
female dwarves in Tolkien's universe were less than 1 third of the population and were therefore so rare they were one of the most closely guarded secrets of the dwarves and NEVER left the mountaihalls BECAUSE they were so closely guarded. Not a single female dwarf was ever named or considered notable or mentioned doing anything.
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>>739612052
>Survivor is outsourced
Yes and? So a third-party studio did a better job at making an actual DRG spin-off than GSG did.
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>>739612112
they are out of the debate, the game didn't take any ressources away from developing DRG or Rogue. Also yeah it was a fun survivor, the upgrades weren't really original tho but it did the job
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>>739612068
>female dwarves in Tolkien's universe were less than 1 third of the population
>1/4 characters is female
AAAAAAAA HELP ME NIGGERMAN I'M BEING GENOCIDED
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>>739611759
They are locked to classes retard. If want to play that class i have to play as this extremely ugly thing whatever this is >>739611452
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>>739612210
>I'M BEING GENOCIDED
Enough about rogue cores active player count
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>>739611948
Do Russians usually rape you?
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>>739601561
wait this isn't the vsurv clone? its another DIFFERENT spin off? and not an add-on for the main game?
bruh
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>Lets make the mission longer but at the same time also more boring than the original Deep Rock
genius
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>>739612345
they're known for having homosexual intercourse on the frontlines as some kind of powerplay. what's funny is that they're doing to it their own instead of captives like the jews.
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>>739612468
>that guy who forces shit like this into conversations it's completely off topic and irrelevant for
Your friends irl hate you btw
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>>739612529
At least his name is not Gay McGayLord
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>>739612529
you must be permanently online to be this assmad that I ruined your argument with a bit of banter
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>>739612574
No one's named that
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>>739612468
Schizophrenia?
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>>739612051
>or it was an accident
Many such cases, actually no, almost every case. Almost every single time any kind of media is good it is good by accident. The most "talented" creators out there are fully capable of producing mountains of dogshit before or after their magnum opus. If they can manage to do make something great more than once you should consider it a miracle. They are the absolute exception, not the norm.
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>>739612609
>randomly brings up some webms he's seen on /pol/ completely unsolicited in a conversation it makes no sense in
>accuses others of being terminally online
You are for sure THAT friend to everyone you know
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>>739601561
same amount of players as marathon tho
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>>739612670
I never mentioned any webms or /pol/. you're telling more about yourself than you might realize.
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>>739612703
sure anon
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>>739611497
>Female dwarves in Tolkien had beards and were indistinguishable from male dwarves
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>>739601561
I actually like it quite a bit. The timer is a bit always on your ass, but nobody has really snatched upgrades in my 30 hours of playtime. When you get people that have played for a few hours and know how the thing goes then it tends to flow well. Unfortunately the ACTUAL problems is that it is, obviously, EA. Runs are feeling pretty samey and I might soon shelf it until the first major update. I'd really like to see different mission types in the vein of DRG, as there no reason why you can't rebrandish a lot of the mission types gameplay wise while keeping RC's roguelite mechanics.
>Hold out in a single large cave across progressively stronger waves, upgrading between them and fighting a boss at the end
>Protect heavy machinery like a drilldozer/drillevator as it makes its way to the corestone as there's no elevators, finding fuel between areas
And the like. It doesn't need to have as much variety as DRG but 3-5 mission types total would be really nice. Currently it's just like if DRG only had Mining Expedition.
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>>739606982
The greatest irony is DRG was basically already a roguelite in the first place.
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>>739607442
Game went from 42,000 peak to 5,000 in 6 days. They finally acknowledged people's complaints about the game, the same complaints they've been getting for a year in their alpha, but their roadmap does not address any of the game's problems at all. It's only going to drop more.
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>>739604118
i think there's like 5 biowomen alive that like gears of war and 3 of them are in the nursing home by now
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>>739612738
Dís was the daughter of Thráin II. She is the only dwarf-woman named in these histories. It was said by Gimli that there are few dwarf-women, probably no more than a third of the whole people. They seldom walk abroad except at great need. They are in voice and appearance, and in garb if they must go on a journey, so like to the dwarf-men that the eyes and ears of other peoples cannot tell them apart. This has given rise to the foolish opinion among Men that there are no dwarf-women, and that the Dwarves ‘grow out of stone’.

Return of the King, Appendix A: III Durin's Folk
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>>739601561
>EpigOnlineSpyware.dll malware
>RogueLike
These.
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>>739611434
For me it's GSG creating a second Supporter Pack DLC for DRG and then shortly after it's release announcing their moving development to Rogue Core lol.
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DRG roguelike is a perfectly great idea, its just that they made it awful and completely stripped it of what made the game special in the first place
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>>739612774
The stupid lore invalidates most mission types DRG had because nothing can be sent up or brought down. All they can do is have you scavenge shit which would mean bring thing from point A to point B or hold a wave in a spot and everything has to end in the elevator going down.
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>>739604654
There is no Darktide version of Chaos wastes. Just chopped up portions of it scattered around the game.
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>>739601561
got touched by that reverse midas hand of the Embracer Group just like kcd2 and kf3. bunch of losers turning everything they touch into shit
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>>739612938
Do you also think they grow out of stone based on in-world speculation?
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>>739613005
The lore is pretty stupid, yeah. I don't know why Omega can apparently communicate with us but we're not allowed to bring weapons in, even if we can bring our armour and class shit. They should probably rewrite it to be less restrictive.
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>>739612969
For me, it's them wasting like three years dicking about, announcing DRG was done because sphagetti code, out-sourcing development of DRG: "We're Chasing Trends!"/Vampire Survivors clone, and then saying they're going to restart development on the spaghetti code/DRG with a Season... 5... IIRC.

Only to then pivot and announce this.

It's clear they have no idea what they're trying to do and only blew up due to Reddit and PvE folks wanting a good co-op game.

>Minecraft
>But you mine
>And shoot bugs
>While working together
This is the core of the series, but somehow they think you want to kite bugs around (which you TECHNICALLY do in DRG but while doing mining and saving other players and shit) like Vampire Survivors while doing NOTHING but kiting.

And then doing it with Roguelike elements like the Vampire Survivors clone but OHHHH in the 3D/DRG gameplay system.
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>>739613074
No, I understand quite well that Tolkien used the author-as-translator conceit and that the "it was said by Gimli" part is the actual in-universe explanation. Same as how the whole Silmarillion is the actual creation myth of the LOTR world, even though it's basically just a story
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>>739601561
i only played the tutorial but...
>launch the game
>forced to watch an actual video of the developers explaining the game isn't finished
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>>739613156
Should have just made DRG 2 that ported all of DRG 1's content since RC seems to do that anyway. Then RC could be a new game mode and people could play what is essentially the L4D2 version of DRG that would then receive more updates/RC-like expansions.
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>>739613223
That would be smart, but obviously they aren't smart.

I have no idea why they do these spin-offs when their fans are PvE co-op shooter players. They don't need to pivot, they have a built in base there.
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>>739610812
The robots usually had female names. What does this say about dwarf society?
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>>739613182
>No
>still posts irrelevant exposition
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Dear gamers… we come before you today weak… frail… clutching our tiny indie studio bowls asking for but a single crumb of currency… only 30 dollars for unfinished early access slop. Please understand Deep Rock only sold over 10 million copies which, after taxes and buying one RTX 5090 for the office raccoon, leaves us with almost nothing. We sadly must increase the price of Deep Core soon due to inflation, greedflation, vibeflation and the CEO wanting a second medieval sword. This is NOT about money. If it was about money we would’ve released 400 skins and a battle pass called Premium Core+ Ultra. Please support us in these dark times.
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>>739613321
It's not exposition, it's an appendix. That's almost the exact opposite
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>>739613361
>If it was about money we would’ve released 400 skins and a battle pass called Premium Core+ Ultra
they released 400 skins and 3 supporter passes instead
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>>739601561
>Early Access
>30 bucks riding off the coattails of a better game (Deep Rock Galactic itself)
>Multiplayer advertised
>Upgrade system hits the brakes on all gameplay and breaks flow
>Upgrades mostly suck
>Regular Deep Rock is better
>Play Borderlands with mods or Gunfire Reborn or Mycopunk if you want a looty shooty friendslop while this...gets more expensive after it leaves Early Access?
Game isn't good as is. Got my refund on the quick.
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Tolkien was a hack
Jackson is a genius
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>>739601561
Was the original just a fluke or something? The fuck happened that they fuck up the very basic of a coop shooter?
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>>739601561
>Rogue Core
>Not a spinoff with busty shortstack space goblin rogues under elf hire to steal from the greedy space dwarves.
Missed opportunity
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>>739611596
foid seethe
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>>739613427
I'm waiting on mine.
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I don't know what sort of crack they're smoking but I want to kill the nigger that classified the flare gun as a terrain traversal tool.
Especially because despite the cave generation being way more lame and simplified you can still fall down in places you can't get out of without a terrain traversal tool or a 10 minutes long humiliation ritual chipping away at the wall with your pickaxe.
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>>739612736
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>>739601561
Thank you, discord dicksuckers.
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not looking so good...
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>>739613567
It wasn't discord dicksuckers some dude pulled out alpha forums and discord channel screenshots and you got people complaining about the same thing steam reviews are almost word for word.
GSG simply choose to ignore it until it blew up in their faces.
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>>739611219
You don't lose anything asking for a refund anyway. Give it a try and give a good reason.
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>>739613315
That's my sex-box, and her name is Sony?
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>>739613629
>>739601561
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPQFF0oqsto
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>>739603769
>finally check the store
>realize that this is her default look, not a beardless version that /v/ was using to make the game look bad
>this is literally what she actually looks like
>it's not some character creator abomination
>it's not some bad use of cosmetics
>this is what they wanted the female dwarf to look like: Ugly AND beardless
No excuse. This pleases exactly no one.
You can't even excuse with the whole "b-but female dwarves should look like male dwarves" since she has no beard in her default look, making her look clearly distinct (-ly worse) from the other dwarves.
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>>739613724
It regularly makes me mad that people have gotten the "2.01 hours played? no refund possible" meme drilled into their heads. I swear to god it's some desperate propaganda by the usual suspects to make sure you don't even attempt to make use of your customer rights
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>>739613734
is he still in jail for training his pug the sieg heil?
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It's 4gb, just pirate it instead of bothering with 2 hours refund windows.
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>>739613814
Kek, no
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>>739611219
You probably have a better chance since it's early access. The 2 hours played limit is simply for no questions asked immediate refund.
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>>739601625
Every alpha is like this. They let players vent for catharsis but in reality they’re just checking netcode. Nothing ever changes from alphas/betas to release
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>can upgrade either you ability or weapon
this sucks ass, also what's the point of TWO weapons if they end up useless with no ammo?
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Disappointed that there's no improvement from DRG in RC it's just flat out worse in every way. I really don't understand who this game is for it's a really underwhelming experience.
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>>739607386
If I were a chef, I would never listen to the people that eat my food. Most of them are mouth breathing retards that have zero experience in cooking
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>>739613978
more like rogue bore
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They ignore all feedback the alpha testing for like a year, now they have a deserved rude awakening
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>>739614185
quite insane how it's now the norm where they release an alpha priced like a finished product and you gotta pray they decide to fix it later
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>>739614217
what i hate about early access is that it makes no distinction of the finished-ness of a game and it enables slop devs fellated by retards to get away with a lot of stuff because "its muh EA!!!"
There are plenty of EA games at $15-45 that are already as big as a whole finished game. And these get used to justify absolutely shabby inferior EA games
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Say something good about RC.
Music is great.
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>pic related demonstrates the dogshit cave generation

Not pictured: A hallway leading away from the elevator to additional content that I'm on the clock to get.

What the fuck has the Ghost Ship crew been doing? I never had access to the closed beta but all the complaints I saw from people playing it are still here.
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>>739614502
>cant move with map open
I love JUMP INTO MAP tech frfr.
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>noo icky women give cooties

Grow up.
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>>739614472
That one animation where the guy catches an ejected bullet in his mouth and taps it like a cigar is pretty neat I guess.
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I just remembered one of the changes that annoyed me
>you get stunned when you land after jumping from anything remotely tall
just more straw for the camel
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>>739614814
>look at a compilation of the inspect animations
>fancy and fun ones for the new guns
>the re-used old guns such as the G1 deepcore or the boomstick haven't received a new animation besides a generic "look on the side" for all of them

They couldn't even bring some new flavor to the ol reliables
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>>739613748
Default looks can be changed, the real problem is that you are stuck with the default look as the class icon, like beardless Driller.
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>>739601561
honestly, they should have released this game at their peak. it's 5 years too late
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>>739602218
>a game where you play as a girlboss and then at the end it tells you that your husband rightfully left you for being such an annoying spastic bitch, and you deserve to be cucked.
That would be kino of the highest order if someone was based enough to do it. Imagine the amount of butthurt it would generate.
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>>739614595
They didn't even try to make the female dorfs even slightly attractive. We have Miss George Floyd dwarves as if these guys were setting out to hit every Larry Fink DEI demand shoved into a single set of characters. Just absolutely hideous far cries from any actual attractive or semi-attractive fictional dwarf ever made.

I am not exaggerating. THERE IS NOT A SINGLE PIECE OF PROMOTIONAL ARTWORK OR IN GAME SCREENSHOT THAT COULD MAKE ANY DRG FEM DORF LOOK GOOD AND I SWEAR TO FUCK IT WAS INTENTIONAL.
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>>739612830
it's 10k now, peak was 17k, how many people do you need to enjoy a game? 10k is small city.
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>>739601803
I like this idea.
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>>739604690
Nah, that is also still dogshit
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I'm starting to believe that swedes are really good at randomly striking gold, but they have no idea how to process said gold.
Valheim was as mismanaged as DRG and all they had to do was to keep supporting their game.
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>>739616691
I thought the DRGdweebs were Danes. The Darktide and Helldivers retards are swedes.
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>>739616776
Dang I'm getting my nords mixed up
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>>739601728
>someone else has the video of north drinking piss and vomiting
.... but why?
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>cool miner spelunker game
>we will just make generic shooter instead
Is the success of DRG lost in translation?
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>>739601803
this guy gets it, but gsg would NEVER. they don't have the stones
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>>739611183
Even this plus a cutesy voice would've saved the game, but they just had to go full aboriginal.
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>>739616880
>>someone else
Why do you...?
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>>739617337
north made many enemies
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>>739616991
>game has unique teamwork that's rare in coop games
>next game drops all of that in favor of stale rogue-lite mechanics
My hatred towards this genre grows
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>>739601561
>PC only
>Roguelike
>Discord friend slop
What'd you expect?
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>YALL MUTTAFUKAS BETTA BE BRINGIN DEM STAEM REVIEWS UP YA 'ERE?!
>GODDAMN RAYCEST ASS CRACKAS! CANT HANDLE NO STRONG WOMAN!
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>>739601561
>prestiged all classes to get access to all bio perk swaps
>finished all intel missions
>hit the bottom of the perk tree and got all the actual good perks
>realize only 3 of the classes are viable and the other 2 are filler
>discover game breaking strategy of investing all in on building slicers sword swing ability to be spammed and shoot out waves that hit every enemy in a horde for 1000s of damage each swing
>game has only 3 bosses, four legged thing is piss easy, rock shark is dogshit, and the plant thing is the only fun one
>every match is fucking 35+ mins long due to excess time filler shit like every match starting with the team having to lower a barrier just to get their starting gear, long stretched out hallways of pure nothing, having to group up to start negotiations for laughably bad upgrades
Game wasnt worth 30$ in its current state. Only real fun thing in this game is building wunder weapons with the workbench since it always gives good upgrades and you dont have to wait for others to use it. Game just has to scrap the negotiation system altogether, scrap the meaningless first 2 minutes of every game and spawn the team in the starting gear room, give more incentives to play the game since right now it doesnt even have the staying appeal of other roguelites. 3 years for this is just another bright example of never letting in a team of w*men and dei to work on your projects.
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The reasonable (and by far the funniest) way to add femdwarfs would've been to make a male-female toggle in the wardrobe, but have it change absolutely nothing about the player character. But of course the cucked danes didn't have the balls to do it.
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>>739601561
Been looking for alternatives after this garbo and Abyssus looks decent enough. Anyone play it?
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>>739601561
female dwarf but doesn't look like female dwarf
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i hope they add purple afro and goggles so i can bazzify my dwarf
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>>739601561
Everyone has already played DRG to death. Making a spinoff with worse systems isn't going to get them back
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>>739614185
>>739614217
It's almost like THEY DON'T CARE. The point is not to create a fun, completed game.
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>DRG
>Four classes that are all simple but visually and mechanically unique
>Rogue Core
>Five classes with overlapping Overwatch skills that all look like shit
People bitch about the Falconer, but ALL of the new characters look like hot fucking garbage. It's like someone told them to make it deliberately ugly, it blows my mind.
Excusing the lack of variety because it's early access, stripping out the "logistics" part of DRG is one of the most retarded things I've ever seen in a sequel.
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>>739601608
As it turns out, the r*dditors begging the devs to include female dwarves in DRG never played the game to begin with.
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>>739611183
alloy if she real
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>>739619714
>Replace shield buffer with armour
>2 skills in the entire game to recover armor
>They are both ultra rare
>Like 15 hp recovery skills
Who even approves this shit?
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>deep dives but your weapon mods and OCs are stripped
>as you progress you equip weapon mods and overclocks midmission
>the board game literally does exactly this system with gold being the resource for upgrades
>rogue core shits the bed
They were close but the rush to WAIT is fucking abysmal. Shove all upgrades into the elevator sequence when you've already got downtime
The bosses in RC so far are way more fun to fight than the red light green light that DRG's bosses amount to.
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>I'd really love to stand in a circle right about now
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>>739601561
Tried it and refunded. Its somehow worse combat than DRG. The areas are small the enemies are less interesting and fun to engage with than the bugs. They also look really low quality.
Its like the whole game feels like the diablo immortal version of drg except its not actually a phone game or p2w but it screams phone game to me.
All the perks are super lame and boring and the class abilities are boring. Tried the falcon bitch and it was just dog shit levels of boring.
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>lore states that reclaimers are cool killing machines while miners are bitchmade
>still haven't gone through something on the same level as an EDD or season 1 haz 5 mission with a nemesis about
Cmon guys
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>>739612068
Well. Except in OH LAWD DEM RANGZ YALL
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>>739621315
>rogue core was based on the drg board game
OH NO NO NO
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Yeah im sure the game failed because it has women it and not just because it’s bland and boring
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>>739622548
The female dwarves are part of the bigger issue desu, all Reclaimers designs look and sound like total tools
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>>739622140
fucking blast havers
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>>739622887
Controller opposition
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>ugly chick on the cover
That's why, also not fixing ANY of the issues that were talked about fucking months ago.
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>>739622776
How? What issue?
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>>739614472
Ascending a class while the other dwarves are kneeling is an absolute kino experience
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>>739623151
Idk, their designs just suck. They look lioe normal miners with a bunch of random shit slapped together as armor.
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Here's a little something funny to cheer you guys up from the aftermath of this flop.
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DRG has always had one of the most obnoxious communities.
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>>739623631
even me???
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>>739623676
Especially you.
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>>739623676
No, you are cool anon
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>>739623748
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>>739623218
No you may not have this in DRG proper, disband the team and promote alone.
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>Create gauntlet as a side mode
>actually fun murder hobo gameplay
Gauntlet should have been the main mode, but they need to fucking fix the concept of "if you don't kill faster than we spawn them, you will lose as all enemies will attack your back at once and there's no way to counter play them because they will out run you."
When all the guns fucking blow and can only single target, how do you expect players to kill 10+ corespawn every 15 seconds ad infinum while doing king of the hill style gameplay.
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>>739623631
Maybe outside of the game, but that's on you for using reddit. In game I regularly had a good time
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>>739601608
They should've made the women into goblins instead.
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>>739611947
the survivor game is good for a twinsticker
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>>739624650
Is there a green skin tone in this game? There was one in drg, right? Can make your own (extremely ugly) goblin woman.
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>>739601775
FF14?
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>>739602845
>Hardly anyone chooses flaregun, expect things to be dark 90% of the time
I agree with the rest but even scouts barely ever use their flaregun in DRG, dunno why maybe they had their brightness modded to see in the dark or something.
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>every mission takes an hour+
>timer constantly ticking down
>no reason to explore
>bosses are way over tuned
>zero ammo with no dropps
>devs had all this feedback from play tests adn didn't change shit

I got into the play test, did one run and never touched it again.
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>>739623631
how so? In-game chat is mostly friendly banter in my experience.
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>>739626175
/v/ users don't play games they just take a look at reddit and say it represents the ENTIRE community
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>>739619129
It’s okay the sweats are friendly but you probably finish an entire game after two runs because they can easily carry you to end run
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>>739619129
/v/ currently has threads for playing Endless Alice with each other.
But I think what most people, even GSG themselves failed to think about, is that DRG is still there and its still just as good. If you're REALLY insistent on something different, Payday 2 is in its second revival era right now with free content and fixing bugs that are over a decade old finally.
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>>739626235
well, considering you get banned from discord if you react with the wrong emoji and get banned from the steam forums for slight criticism, i would say, yeah, the deep rock community is pretty obnoxious and no playing with random people that don't talk ingame doesnt count.
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>>739627163
>forums count
>the game tho? No it doesn't because it doesn't!
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>>739627163
>uhhh, the game doesn't count, sweety
AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
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>>739627254
Yeah, because most randoms are silent ingame
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>>739623631
I actually love RC just because it filters the heckin mine & chill wholesomeroni chungus players away
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>>739627303
yeah and I also got a few good experiences but barely any, INGAME. Once again not beating the "/v/ermins don't play games" allegation my nigga
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nobody who cares about DRG gives a shit about the female dwarves, the game has actual issues which is why the low rating
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>>739627309
bro it filters everyone away that shit is dropping hard
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>>739601561
As someone with like 500 hours in Deeprock this just looks like a dumbed down watered down roguelike spinoff and putting "tuff" ugly women front and center runs the brotherly camaraderie feel of the original and also just feels condescending because it's clearly another one of those decisions based on some consultant's input and not actually aimed at appealing to their audience. Like when I see this kind of shit I just feel like the dev doesn't like me so why would I trust the game to be any good and why would I want to spend money on it? I got a million other games to play
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>>739627362
hi, 1k hours in DRG here, female dwarves are the first thing that pushed me away and hearing how shit the game is hasn't changed my opinion
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>Let's make it so you have to fight over upgrades in our coop game
Genius game design
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>2k hours in deep rock btw
>blah blah blah blah
Holy shit shut the fuck up. Kinda glad most of the playerbase for RC is new ppl and not these spergs
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>>739617913
All the discord and preddit troons already reviewed it positively after launch they got no one left.
It will stay mixed for the time being.
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>>739627362
I actually turned off my voice audio because I couldn't keep listening to a faux masculine woman pretending to give her most "endearing" butch lesbian impression because for some reason the women have to radiate as much T as the men do and they cannot be scream rock and stone unless they sound like they turn other women into puppets in their spare time.
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>>739627352
>only a few good experiences
Thanks for proving my point
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>>739617913
explain cod and fifa then you nigger
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I am hard torn on wanting to get the game purely to have new weapons to play with in a DRG game, but also not wanting another KF3 situation in my library.
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>>739627868
just wait for it to die, the devs will probably fit the new weapons in DRG once RC goes nowhere.
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I feel like maybe doubling the rarity of upgrades and weapons would be a pretty easy fix to implement quickly and work to make the game feel slightly less shit
They can remove it later when they reword upgrades
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>>739620872
>2 skills in the entire game to recover armor

How many more weeks until you guys at least play the game you're bitching about? These threads are getting pretty boring.
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>>739602031
>he doesnt want to force elven women to serve dwarves
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>>739612938
desu this reads more like "dwarven women crossdress when abroad" rather than anything else
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i love how everyone here blames ONE single woman for the failure of this game instead of the other whole slew of things that's wrong with the game.

I guess it's true what they say about /v/
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>>739628026
>/v/
>playing games
>/v/
>not getting their opinions fed to them by their favorite culture war eceleb
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>>739625754
and they did all this just because they didn't want to put elite deep dive exclusive bosses and mission types into the game

I hope some chinese company eats their lunch on the cave fps concept
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>>739613321
take the fucking L man, sorry
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>>739628026
they do this all the time, someone a few days ago tried to imply that eyebrows are a brand new cosmetic category that only exists in rogue core
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>>739628082
That's because you get banned on any other platform if you dare mention how ugly those female dwarfs are.
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>>739628082
I like to see companies punished for going woke. Learning about other issues would diminish that.
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>>739619129
yeah. its pretty fun in a group. sort of bland solo.
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>>739628082
can't read or can't be bothered to read. but yeah over the myriad of other issues the female va is shit and sounds like a retard. i don't "really" care that the play models also look trash (everything about them, colour scheme, armor design, faces) but the shitty voice acting is the nail in the coffin. btw these are shill threads where theyve realised no one is going to say anything nice about the game so theyre starting a bait thing which i just fell for. like marathon, no one cares enough about a game they hate to constantly make threads like these. its devs/fans/ai who are self deprecating because they know no one here is going to vehemently defend the game
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>>739628082
It's not the woman that's the problem, it's their willingness to sacrifice their principles for """""inclusivity""""" which also means they are not focusing on things that make a game fun.
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>>739628657
i still remember when one of the devs responded to a "drg dwarfs" give me dysphoria by telling them "to exit out of the nearest airlock lul
>baww man dwarfs give me dysphoria
>kys
fukn kek
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>>739627951
>doubling the rarity
that would make them MORE rare.
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>>739628082
The addition of hideous women is the key omen for the rest of the game's problems. That is why it's referred to above the rest. If you're too retarded to figure that one out yourself then the last thing you should be is smug.
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>>739628596
The irony is that Javier sounds extremely natural for a dwarf despite not doing the obvious Scottish accent meanwhile they got a proper lass for the female voice and she sounds so fucking bad in comparison.
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>>739611497
And they still looked like women.
>b-but Rangs of-
No! It ends with the Hobbit trilogy.
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>>739611596
if the female dwarfs had been cute and hot nobody would have cared but they made them incredible ugly girlbosses
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>>739628809
>this dwarf on the screen is literally me
Hes just a tiny man on the screen. Why are women incapable of separating fiction and reality?
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>>739627951
>>739628905
>turn 360 degrees and walk away moment
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>>739624173
It's so funny to me how the 4 DRG classes would mop the floor with this game, especially the gauntlets. Really shows how they just gutted them to resell parts of their kits as random roguelite upgrades.
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>>739628657
why you make it sound like it's mutually exclusive or they gotta sacrifice one thing for another?
It's just one optional fem dorf.
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>>739629324
Women ruin fun things and you would know that if you weren't such a fag
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>>739629239
bait post trying to get some to point out it isnt actual women who have the problem, youre welcome. im also done feeding "drg shill thread #1000000", you guys know you get like 3 actual posters every thread and the rest is echochamber discord tards trying to do free advertisement for gsg
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>>739629228
They fucking dwarves, anon. They're not supposed to be attractive. You "anti woke" retards are too stupid to realize that you're only watering down your own position when you start complaining that developers aren't making female dwarves "sexy enough" for you.
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>>739626802
on what planet do you look at drg and abyssus, and think to recommend someone endless fucking alice
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>>739629621
If a woman isn't attractive she shouldn't be added to a game.
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I'm fine with "ugly" female dwarves, the designs in RC just suck to me like the main bitch on the banner obviously takes so many references from Overwatch Tracer and she just makes for an ugly ass design that in no way says she's supposed to be a hardened dwarf that only is called for the hardest of jobs.
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>>739629324
>optional
The whole class is locked to female only.
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>>739629621
no one, no one, no one, wants to look at ugly women, that's the simple facts
if it was IMPORTANT that they put in female dwarves and that they be ugly, then it should have been scrapped DAY ONE
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>>739629304
There's a reason people were making fun of Rogue Core when it was first shown off as "Deep Dives but you only get to use the Subata"
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the fixes to the major problems is that upgrades should be added to each character individually so that you dont waste that precious timer by needing to group up and each player should have a unique list of upgrades to choose from
this barter and begging with a heart system goes against the core philosophy of the game
DRG was just pure cooperation, now they add this idiotic time wasting mechanic while adding a fucking clock that spawns immortal enemies, and passive aggressive "fuck you i got mine" by adding legendary upgrades that dont do shit for certain characters
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Sometimes I wonder if you guys even enjoy or even play videogames.
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>>739629891
I do
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>>739629621
They have one of the most hideous models of any game and the classes are locked to them. Consider that female dwarfs are one of the least played races in all MMOs. People just don't want to play as them. Just give players a choice to switch to a male dwarf model.
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>>739629751
>>739629783
This is, frankly, a retarded position to hold. This is why no one takes chudcels seriously. If there was ever a game where it should be okay to have big, ugly, masculine-looking female characters, it's when you have female dwarves.
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>>739629891
I am now that I'm not playing Rogue Core.
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>>739629891
Can't play games when you're too busy fighting the culture war
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>>739629891
yeah, i do, and RC is shit
and when shit stinks, don't be surprised when i make a mean face
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I don't even have an issue with female dwarves themselves but at least let me choose the gender man holy shit.

>>739628082
Because she's literally shoved in your face immediately when you load up the game to do the tutorial. This entire shit just screams Embracer Group influence all over.
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>>739630017
How’s Rogue Core doing? Oh right

KEK
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>>739630017
here's your female dwarf, retard >>739617913 and you aren't allowed to criticize because they're supposed to be ugly and black dwarves are already in DRG, enjoy
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>>739630017
They could've at least made her remotely fuckable is all I'm saying.
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>>739630017
>would rather have dogshit games then take "chudcels" seriously
sounds like a you problem
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>>739630017
The only time you should have manly women is when your characters are actually men.
Dwarven women look hardy, not literally like men. Fictional tough women look like Rosie the Riveter, not like La Creatura American.
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>>739601608
I dont see any tho?
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The concept of female dwarves is fine but the rogue core ones look horrendous.
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>>739630342
bro no one on /fit/ lifts
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>>739614595
nah, I'm good
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They sold 10 millions copies of Deep Rock Galactic and couldn't be bothered to listen to any feedback from the alpha testers because "we know what's best". Ugly female dwarfs, fighting over upgrades, long boring maps. Their vision for this game sucks ass.
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>>739601561
>what happened??
The #1 issue is all the waiting around jerking off. Why do they have a 5 minute video of them talking when you boot the game for the first time? Why is there a cutscene every time you start the game? Why do you have to jump through the hoops of opening the portal at the start of every run? Why do you have to group for exponite upgrades? Why is there a ready check at the end of each level? Why does each person get a 4 minute timer to pick upgrades?
There are plenty of other issues but they're not as glaring.
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>>739630692
>fighting over upgrades

by far the worst decision the devs made, and easily the most fixable one too.
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>>739630104
>>739630139
>>739630174
>>739630249
>All female characters need to be sexy, even when they are ugly mythological creatures like dwarves
Again, this is why no one takes chudcels seriously. You make your own position into a joke when you take your ideology to the retarded extreme like this. Let's take this for an example: let's say I wanted to make a game with a fictional character who is a sentient pile of shit, and this character is also a woman. Do you think this living, female shit monster should be "sexy"?
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>haven't played DRG in years
>see OP
>think its the latest expansion
>its a whole new game apparently
>look at footage of the gameplay
>recycled assets everywhere
Even as an outsider looking in this seems like a bad move to effectively sell you what would have been an expansion as a new game.
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>>739630809
lmao he worships ugliness
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>>739630809
Yeah, people will still call out because they don't want to play as an ugly pile of shit
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this all could have been avoided if they simply had a beautiful dorf to balance out the ugly dorf.

light can't exist without darkness, and thus beauty can't exist without ugly.
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>>739630809
why did they make all of those skins for drg if they all were supposed to look like shit? oh wait, they didnt
people want to play characters that look good, not ugly freaks
get it into your head gsg employee
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>>739630809
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2605790/discussions/0/838376971028326147/
Are these all chuds? Kek
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>>739630809
Female dwarves can be sexy without sacrificing her dwarveness. She doesn't have to look like a Korean supermodel ffs.
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>>739630809
>I cannot relate to the character on the screen unless they are as ugly as I am
No one sane wants to be painful to look at. Homely is different from being outright repulsive
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Honestly you can tell Embracer Group has something to do with this including DRG gradually getting shittier support especially around the end. They couldn't do anything with DRG because it was already out by the time they bought Coffeestain publishing, so they possibly forced GSG to move onto a new game which is why we have RC.

Another game ruined by these fuckers.
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>>739601775
Mechwarrior 5...idk even then though you still need to install a couple mods to make it truly great
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>>739630902
>>739631115
>>739631184
>>739631219
>>739631259
I notice that none of you answered the question.
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>>739630809
i dont want to look at ugly shit. that’s why its called ugly. to be ugly is to be repulsive and for people to not want to look at it. if your design is ugly it means I dont want to look at it and hence I will not be playing your game
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>>739631398
>i dont want to look at ugly shit.
turn on your monitor
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If they added gender options in DRG and it only changed the dwarf's voice, I'd unironically use the female one for some of loadouts (mainly the masked ones like my DRAK Scout here)
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>>739631440
all I see is a picture of you
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I think dungeon meshi is the only property that hasn't made me immediately hate female dwarves
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>>739601625
alphas, betas, public test builds and whatever else, they're just playable ads or demos at best 99/100 times
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>>739631440
wouldn't that do the opposite of showing your reflection...?? niggas can't even parrot comebacks properly lmao.
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>make boring game
>fucking dies

This is why I tell people I unironically do not enjoy 95% of media. How could you when it's all just a worse version of better shit? And this is just the honest fucking truth.
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>>739601561
>missing lgbt+ tag
fix it
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>>739601561
The people lashing out at those who don't like the new female dwarf just don't get it. It's not just that she's unattractive, she's REPULSIVE. You can be homely looking without being borderline hostile to the senses. Whoever designed that character is a soulless goblin. I swear I've seen monsters from Berserk that were easier to look at.
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>>739632634
>believing this shit
kek
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Deep Rock sold 10 million copies and they served us this slop
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>>739633016
this is why I never believe in more sales = better refined product
there’a a certain line where they make too much money and produce slop
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another

FLOPPED
SLOP

LMAO
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>>739601561
>generic shitty ai rng progression game labeled 'le hecking roguelike mechanics'
>marketing budget was more then the development budget
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>>739632634
Bro you are literally the woman on the top half.
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>>739633423
no u
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>>739631351
How about this: ugly men funny
ugly women sad
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>>739628657
>it's their willingness to sacrifice their principles for """""inclusivity""""" which also means they are not focusing on things that make a game fun.
It's always this but mindraped leftist activists will pretend otherwise.
When I see woke shit in a game or its marketing, I simply don't buy it or even have any interest in it because I know the culture of that development company wouldn't allow for a fun game to be made anyway, this approach is bulletproof
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>>739632939
>he thinks having dark thoughts can't make you fuck your appearance up
lol
lmao
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>>739633893
I don't think child rape and jewish substance abuse constitute "bad thoughts"
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>>739601561
It'd be funny if this ran into a Payday 3 situation where the devs work on Rogue Core for years trying to fix the game while barely anyone plays, but they also let fans update DRG who immediately start pumping out updates faster than the devs ever did and immediately improve the game by not being fucking retarded
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>>739634592
>zero evidence of child rape
>39 years old in left pic
>photos only 3 years apart
Any more copes, anon? Also where does substance abuse come from anyway? Good thoughts lmfao?
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>>739632939
>actually thinking that inner thoughts and constant negative emotions don't affect your appearance
I guarantee that it's true and that there's scientific proof to back it up, my gut tells me so
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>>739611596
Failed game moment
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>>739616991
>>739616691
There's a weird western brainrot where they absolutely need to change everything for no fucking reason whatsoever instead of building on it. Alienate all their fans and get 0 new ones, lmao.
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>>739601561
>bro shooter
>adds a cunt
Thanks!
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>>739631351
ask a non-retarded one then
>why has no one engaged with my retarded premise???
because it was intellectually empty
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>>739629304
They are afraid to give power to players, because then the rouge like system of building shit into becoming broken is redundant.
The design is bad because there is one singular level up skill that lets you mob efficiently and without it you're worthless.
All they need to do is rework to give players the ability to hurt multiple targets, make the damage/weak suck and let them grow into the strength by giving them more gun.
Rework enhancements, bio boosting is a cute idea, but your class upgrades should be bio boosts instead of tied to the work bench, and your enhancements should be bio boost upgrades you can slot in - 2 max per of each card, can only use two decks.
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>>739635701
simply just
>please pay $30 for the same thing but worse
Does anyone remember when GSG hinted underwater biomes as a possibility? Not even the cave layouts are better in RC. Insane.
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>>739601561
>already dead
>what happened??
>>739601608
>They included women in the game
they included women in the game development, that's the real issue
over-representation of women in game development is always a sign that the game company is compromised and will just start to die
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How would they even fix this game at this point? Can it be fixed? Or is it just a lost cause and they should just abandon ship and go back to DRG?
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>>739601561
Everything must be shit. The shittification of everything shall continue until white men are extinct.
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>>739603769
They thought they could catch the tranny train but they got left behind, common story
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>>739601561
>Oy vey I see you have a pretty good game there. How about I drop you 500k and you make sure the sequel is completely gay homosexual dogshit filled with trannies?
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>>739611947
I dont want a sequel, I want more ACTUAL content for base DRG
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>>739636667
It can be fixed by tweaking values around to make runs feel less RNG dependent and bullshit.
Like 25% more ammo reserves and 75% ressuply from drop pods would be a great start and it involves tweaking 2 numbers in a json file or whatever.
Add some new objectives which they kinda pigeonholed themselves in because of the lore they can't add fun shit like refueling broken drop pods or morkite refining but I'm sure they can figure something out to add more variety that isn't just "stand in place and hold wave"
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>>739603769
Kek
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>>739630017
>If there was ever a game where it should be okay to have big, ugly, masculine-looking female characters, it's when you have female dwarves
Bullshit, your made up headcanon that female dwarves should be ugly is not based on the Norse Fornaldarsögur and Riddarasögur Legendary Sagas

Dyrgja were never depicted as unfeminine
>In Þorsteins þáttr bæjarmagns, the dwarf child is described as wearing a dress, implying that the mother and daughters dressed in the same traditional, contemporary Scandinavian attire as human women.
>the little girl dyrgja fetching water in Egil's Saga was envisioned as human-like but significantly smaller than humans

Over the centuries, the word Dyrgja evolved in Scandinavian folklore.
By the time it made it into modern Icelandic and Norwegian dialects, the word Dyrgja meant "stout, fat, curvy, or slovenly woman."
The saga authors focused entirely on the dyrgja's maternal and feminine identity, and not some gender neutral faggot shit.
This is proven in how in Scandinavian language and culture, the word Dyrgja became synonymous with the english equivalent of a FAT TIT COW, and not some androgynous bearded lady.
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>>739601561
This is what they get for being trend following, dei retards. They had a good thing going with the original game, but let it die in favor of this pos and the other game nobody played.
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>>739611497
>Female dwarves in Tolkien had beards
Read here>>739638439

Dwarves are white culture, there is over 1000 years of literature that do not depict Dwarven women as some gender nonbinary bearded fagshit for losers and redditors
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>>739601793
76 is/was not good tf are you smoking.
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>>739601608
you're honestly the biggest fucking loser faggot alive if a girl dwarf makes you review bomb a game
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>>739601561
I hate rnglucks
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>>739638663
you gonna cry about it? how about you go buy another 2 or 3 copies, that'll really own the chuds lmao
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>>739636667
>How would they even fix this game at this point?
adding it into DRG as a deep dive mode
>Can it be fixed?
getting rid of the new classes
just giving the new guns and gear to the old classes
>Or is it just a lost cause and they should just abandon ship and go back to DRG?
pretty much
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>>739603769
BUY THE FUCKING GAME CHUD
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>>739632634
>looks aren;t everything
>first impressions are the most important

If you're ugly you leave an immediate bad impression and are judged before you even open your mouth.
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>>739613748
>but female dwarves should look like male dwarves
But why? Because of a joke by Tolkien?
Dyrgja were literally written in the Norse Legendary Sagas as completely feminine and comparative to human women
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>>739601561
They made it gay and retarded.
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>>739604214
>adding all-female elves was the OBVIOUS answer and they should have been a rival faction of some sort
This is such a goddamn layup I cannot believe that nobody suggested that in house. They'd go after the shrooms, gold, and trees and interfere with dwarves in bullshit magic/druidic ways.
Could even have them go 'root and bough' or something.
Enemy variety in pve, and could open the door for balanced pvp.

There's so many ways this could work how did they land on ugly dwarf women?
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How's the solo experience right now?
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>>739639423
Grueling, especially the bosses. They're way over tuned and have a fuck huge shield that feels like it takes 20 minutes to down and then it refills soon as you do the objective to remove one of their health segments. Add that on top of barely any ammo, shit upgrades and already being in there for an hour it makes for a wholly unfun experience.
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>>739639570
Thank you, anon.
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>>739638990
>Dyrgja were literally written in the Norse Legendary Sagas
Do you have a recommendation? Curious about this, but don't want to deal with a bunch of gay inaccurate adaptations.
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>>739601608
>women
they included ugly trannies
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>>739631797
They should've been the 1/100 this time
because they laid out a stinky turd and the players told them before hand
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>>739601803
holy based
hire this man
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At this point, the "haha women dwarves are ugly, stout, have beards" is a trope dating back to Tolkien.

The actual subversive thing would be if they were cute.
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>>739611183
>>739640256
It would be actually funny if women were cute and well kempt, showing the men are just lazy dirty fucks.
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>>739607386
>Most of them are mouth breathing retards that have zero experience in game design
good thing you're not a game dev
you should never expect your players to tell you how to fix it, but they will tell you what needs to be fixed
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I'm gonna be honest, female dwarves should be ugly and fit into the ascetic of the male dwarves also looking ugly, it is a bit of an odd choice having them there but I don't know anything about dwarven "lore". That being said the rest of the game being in the state it's in is unexcusable especially after all the alpha tests and the feedback they received. This tells me the dev time simply didn't give a fuck and are trying to back peddle now but too little too late.
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>>739639423
>smaller swarms
>creepers can't chunk half of your half in one sneak attack
>dont have to wait for people in the upgrade circle
>drone is unironically a more reliable teammate
>mines for you
>revives you
>saves you from cave leeches UNLESS HE'S STARING AT IT FOR FIVE SECONDS SHOOT IT ALREADY YOU FUCK
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>>739640508
>I'm gonna be honest, female dwarves should be ugly and fit into the ascetic of the male dwarves also looking ugly
It's a boring generic trope at this point. Make them actually cute to be subversive.
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>>739640552
coomerbrain can't think past anything but "muh dik"
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>>739640256
The trope is that dwarves are extremely patriarchal and no fucking way would they have women doing these jobs. Most non-dwarves never see a dwarven female
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>>739640256
>female dwarves get added to DRG
>in-universe explanation is that the company has bring-your-daughter-to-work days
This is the only correct solution.
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>>739640638
Has there been any shows that actually show dwarf females? I can't think of any.
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>>739640672
No way any father would take their daughters on something so dangerous.
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>>739640256
I would consider buying RC if they made the female dwarves cute.
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>>739612164
>they are out of the debate
When they...
>share almost everything with the thing in question
huh
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Tolkien's dwarves are based on jews so they should look like israeli women
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>>739627868
>He bought KF3
Imagine buying that when a battle ship of red flags was firing out of it during the run up to release.
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>>739629621
>They fucking dwarves, anon. They're not supposed to be attractive
Don't talk shit you don't know nothing about
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>>739640634
>women in vidya have to be ugly or else it's coom
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What happened? They killed progression.
DRG had slow and steady unlocks.
First you unlocked traits, that were not really tied to materials.
Then you started working on passives and weapons.
After that you worked on overclocks.

Every step along the way meant you prioritized certain missions over others (materials). There was some agency in what you are doing and for which character you are doing it.

All of that... gone. There is no incentive to pick one mission over another. The unlocks are at the moment impactful, but bland. Basically just the trait system of DRG.

The game is fun, but once you have played the class you wanted for a bit, around the bronze 3 time, you have fully unlocked the characters potential, and there is nothing to play for anymore. In DRG I have around 300 hours and only my main class has all of the unlocks. Here, if I put in another 5h I probably have everything unlocked on everyone.
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>>739629891
Yes.
I enjoyed DRG and the spinoff a lot.
This one looked like shit so I held off.
Maybe they'll fix it later, but I seriously doubt it.
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>>739640728
Not when he's sober, no.
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>>739640971
damn i wish i could waste more time before i get to have fun
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>>739640810
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>>739601561
>make inferior product
>staple woke faggot shit on it
>it dies

k, so are they going to go back to making expansions for the first game? cause this one just came out and its already rotting.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/13wtyp7/this_game_has_unlocked_so_much_gender_euphoria_i/
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>>739641398
They have a couple more seasons in the pipeline I think, outsourced to another studio like the last one I assume. They pretty much went all hands on deck for Rogue Core development in-house and are probably reluctant to ever touch the spaghetti code monstrosity that is DRG again.
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>>739641364
Based. May all allegory and self insert fags be mauled to death by a gang of racoons.
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>>739640984
That's not even developed by GSG, they just let another dev use the IP, and those devs made a DRG as fuck experience and style that respects the fuck out of the original game, which is extremely fucking ironic when Rogue Core doesn't do any of that at all.
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>>739641252
Its not about wasting time before it gets fun. Its about getting new toys to play with as you progress. DRG did that well. I would unlock a weapon, do a few runs, and unlock an overclock for another weapon. Now I could do a few runs with that, any by then get another weapon or overclock unlocked.

Here, you unlock the boring stuff, and that's it. I don't care about power creep passives that just feel like mandatory unlocks to even out the difficulty. I want new gun sets to take into missions, something that will make me feel like I actually changed up my gameplay trough my choices.
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>>739641427
Christ, it's hard to believe people talk like this...
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>>739640971
drg’s progression is by far the worst fucking thing about it
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Do Danes all go on mandatory paid leave for 10 months of the year every year?
How did it even take 3 years to crank out this asset flip?
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>>739638663
we can't all be the biggest loser alive, and yet thousands have decided this game is trash not worth anyone's time
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>>739641726
Bullshit. People would not have played it for hundreds of hours just for the sake of repeating the same random stages if they were not unlocking shit as they went. I agree that it can be frustrating to the meta faggots, who want to play the specific weapon/oc setup their favorite reddit streamer showcased. But for everyone else, it was a nice way to decide what maps to go for, to max specific mineral returns.
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>>739641745
0/10 try again
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>>739641942
If you think this game justifies even a 1/4th of that dev time you are crazy.
It has the same amount of content as two DRG seasons AT MOST.
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>>739640882
At the time I really wanted something coop and new, and knew I'd get my money's worth before the playerbase died completely, I don't really regret it because I knew what I was getting.
Now I'm not so desperate, so I don't want something I will just get my money's worth from, but something that'll last longer than a month or two, problem is I saw some Rogue Core gameplay videos and I'm left longing for those shiny new toys to blast some bugs with.
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>>739640692
Dungeon Meshi
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>>739640256
>The actual subversive thing would be if they were cute
See here >>739638439
Tolkien did not adapt dwarven women to his series based on historical precedence
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>>739642085
sex
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>>739642068
How many years of game development you have under your belt?
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>>739603769
>behold, our newest character
>literally the ugliest woman ever created
>are you sure this will help us improve gameplay?
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>>739608836
>no driller
this is what made me refund
I love digging and I love drilling
the 5 new classes seem shitty, and I'd rather them bring the original 4 classes over than deal with classes like "slicer" or "retcon" which sound like some kind of cyberpunk thing
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>>739641942
Rogue Core was announced October 2023 and was supposed to release in early access in November 2024. It got pushed back to May 2026 and they still expect 18-24 months of early access.
>>739642210
Oh you're just a faggot.
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>>739603769
community:
>we like sexy dwarf women
ghost ship games:
>you will get whatever we shit onto your plate
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>>739642301
>call a game an asset flip
>lose your shit when someone asks you how much experience you have with game development
I win and you lose.
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>>739642085
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>reddit defense force member spending hours of unpaid time to protect his wholesome chungus failure of a spinoff
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>>739611219
if you don't refund too often, have a steam account that's got a decent library attached to it, they will usually give a refund, especially if you write a reasonable and brief reason
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>>739601625
The issue is, all the "problems" people had in the alphas are literally the stand out features that make this not DRG and they are proud of them. Addressing them would just literally turn this back into DRG, or at best what should've been a gamemode for DRG.
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>>739641863
The game having progression in the form of ranks, basic unlocks, and cosmetics is all well and good. But they kept adding to the progression treadmill until it is now the unmanagable insanity it is.
>Overclocks require literally a 4-step process that doesnt even garuntee you get an overclock you want or even for the class or weapon you want
>assignment system literally forces you to play the marked missions to make meaningful progression instead of choosing missions that look fun or lucrative
>repeatedly unlocking the same cosmetic overclocks for every class
the procedurally generated caves and minerals/money as currencies is plenty for progression. The overclock crafting shit stapled on top is insanely bloated, plus the assignment system. There’s a reason save editing is particularly rife.
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>weapons are bad
>upgrading during run feels bad
>mining is now a meme gimmick
>no real interaction with terrain
>bland cavegen
>enemy variety is low
>the fucking timer
>also music is just a bit of a miss, not as good as DRG
It's too late for a refund for me, i regret
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>>739642654
Early Access games are more lenient maybe. I got a refund after 20 hours of playing the UE4 Insurgency game when it was in EA.
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>>739642675
Did Veilguard let you see those dwarven milkers or no?
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>>739642654
>>weapons are bad
The rest isn't worth responding to, this is an obvious false flag from the start.

0/10 try harder
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>>739643259
it's so easy to tell you're a butthurt redditor lmao
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>>739643259
>find this attractive or you're not a real fan
Oh nooo, I'm never gonna recover from this!
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>>739643259
ftfy
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>>739643519
>>739643476
>>739643402
found the gooners
when are you going to apologize for this mess? it was you who for advocated for female dwarfs
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>>739643476
put a goddamn spoiler on that

fucking jumpscare posters.
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>>739643580
>found the gooners
we are heterosexual sir, dont be a bigot
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>>739643580
>apologize for something the devs were going to fuck up regardless
no
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>>739643476
Did they really have to design her with the widest sheboon nose and morbidly obese lips and cheeks? Christ man.
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>>739604690
CP didn't get engoodened, they just polished the turd they had so the game became playable, but it's still the same bad game as it released and was panned by the unbiased critics.
Hell, you can literally see the josh strife video and he lists everything wrong with the game in great detail, which is the same shit that people has been criticizing since day one, they literally just fixed the bugs and someone else released a critically acclaimed anime.
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>>739643519
Wider.
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>>739641803
yeah sure man idk maybe the game is shit but acting like its because theres women in it is supreme liquid brain retard behavior
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>>739638738
youre the one crying about women in a game lol youre fucking pathetic dude
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>>739643937
>>739643992
go back
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>>739643476
even mrs potatohead is a dime piece by comparison
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>>739643937
It does have genuine reasons to get shit on for.
Most of the people saying that shit are idpol trolls. It detracts from the shit that needs to be fixed, but also it's basically spam that buries the criticism. If they were at all serious all they would have to do is nothing because the devs will spend all the goodwill they got from their audience, while the retard fanboys attempt to bury the criticism alone. It always comes back to horseshoe theory where they're both the same spamming morons, just post things online for dopamine like a monkey would for grapes.
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>>739643992
im not crying about women in a game
im crying about UGLY women in a game, get it right chuddo
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>>739643476
>QUICK, W NEED TO PUT BLACK WOMEN IN THE GAME!
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>>739643937
>>739643992
low T lego nuts
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>>739642085
>>739642173
based
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>>739601608
Scout is already in DRG tho
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>>739643476
they need to add the green skin back so i can make shrek
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>>739643937
>because theres women in it
Ugly women that are locked to classes
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>>739601561
>single pick
>someone HAS to be an annoying femdwarf
>shared weapon loot pool
>banning people foe the "wrong" criticism
>we are listening and looking into it
>listening to the roguelite players and not the drg players
Lol, lmao even. An impressive series of retarded decisions.
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>>739643259
Almost there!
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>>739643519
holy based.
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>be completely random nobody studio
>get hired to make a tacked on roguelite mode for some game
>somehow succeed in perfecting the blend of roguelite and co-op horde shooter
>and then you vanish into the ether
>no one can replicate what you did on the first go despite them constantly trying and failing
>not even the actual devs of the game
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>>739601561
A dwarf...
WITH A FUCKING MANBUN
This + ugly women is peak basedlennial signalling.
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>>739628082
Won’t buy won’t play because of the reddit woman, you will continue to suffer poor sales and seethe
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>>739646218
Darktide is finally heating up and worth playing, but like you said it was cheeks on the first go around when compared to Vermintide.
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>>739629891
I enjoy not buying rogue core and not playing rogue core and I’ll continue to not do either, thoughts on that?
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>>739646218
>Vermintide 2
I don't wanna just for stats, I wanna have fun.
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>>739628082
there's a ton of problems with the game, but if they can't fix the ugly woman and give her fat tits, i won't be engaging with their problem game

attractive women will not make a bad game magically good, but it does prevent the game from just being bad, it gives it some virtue worth engaging with
if it had no women at all, the game would just be a worse version of DRG, but now it's a worse version of DRG with ugly dogshite female characters
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why would I play a worse version of drg? are the devs dumb?
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Ah yes, another thread kicking and screaming because another developer didn't stick to one game forever.
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>>739648037
>you have to like the new thing because it’s new bigot
>just ignore that it does things worse than it’s predecessor it’s hecking NEW so it’s good
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>>739611183
>>739647954
this 100% would have worked
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>>739648037
>because another developer didn't stick to one game forever
by making the same fucking game but worse?
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>>739601561
You know why
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>>739647954
it should have been easy
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>>739648037
In Team Fortress 2's case it's completely justified because Valve left the game in a bad shape and just doesn't want to improve it
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>>739647760
I think embracer forced them to make this obvious seasonal update to DRG's deepdives a standalone product to increase revenue streams, but then ran into the problem that the game was so fucking similar to DRG that they had to invent shitty hero shooter classes to differentiate it enough to warrant a $30 price tag
It should have also been 3rd person, with some level of narrative put it

With DRG, the TTRPG, Survivor and now Rogue Core, there's been almost no fucking narrative put into this IP outside of
>mining corpo bad
>goblin corpo also bad

They've mention Elves only as a joke and as a seasonal macguffin, there's absolutely zero world building in this almost decade old fucking "IP"
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>>739647954
>DLSS 5
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>>739649058
I remember people speculating the rival corp was gobbos or gnomes. And then nothing ever came of it, shame.
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>check the reddit for news
>oh a dev stream was recently had
>everyone is seething because the lead dev doesnt want to add autosprint for some asinine reason despite other devs being ok with it

Yeah this game is fucking cooked lmao

https://www.reddit.com/r/RogueCore/comments/1tojg3g/topics_addressed_in_todays_dev_stream_may_26/
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>>739649257
I have no idea what's going on with the rival corp, Omega is so obviously a rival corp plant.
>looks like rival tech
>asks you to grab DRG cameras
>asks you to destroy DRG drones
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>>739649257
There's only so much we can blame on Embracer Group, Ghost Ship Games failed to really do anything with their own setting.

Now they've lost a few of their top talent on the team like the composer, and they've had to rely on outsourced studios to actually work on the IP instead.
The "dream team" that made DRG is no longer really there, and the last of the original team no longer has any good ideas left in the tank, which is why Rogue Core is just Project: Dwarka/Early Alpha Deep Rock Galactic, which wasn't designed well enough to be a successful product, which is why the massive changes in gameplay happened
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>>739613468
team changed, as in many individuals who were there at the start left
embracer acquired their publisher (and parent company) in 2018
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>>739647954
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>>739649749
How is that a RC issue when DRG never had autosprint either
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>>739650314
DRG didn't have hard time limit.
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>>739650314
it's more about the two lead devs being the entire problem about everything.
They're the entire reason why Rogue Core even got prioritized over DRG, they wanted to remake DRG Early Alpha despite no one liking it

DRG only got popular over listening to the fanbase and removing their own ego out of it, now they are putting their own ego back into Rogue Core despite it being antithetical to their own success
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>>739601561
It's impossible to make shortstacks fuckable, should have made them elves instead.



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