where did you find this drawing of me???

>>739602871
>fan that hasnt been turned off in three years
>viboe game
holy literally me

>>739602871
People like this disgust me. I simply delegate my full attention to different things in 30 second intervals.

>>739602871
#relatable ngl

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>>739602871
how to solve this?

>>739602871
wait why do I use the fan

>>739602871
I hate podcasts though.
>"today we will talk about [topic]"
>actually just talk about their uninteresting lives for 30 minutes

>>739603713
start drinking alcohol

>>739602871
>adhd
doesn't exist, just accumulation of bad habits that were never checked by even the tiniest amount of discipline

people with fake mental illnesses like ADHD need to be euthanized

>>739603713
You don't because it's just a shitpost to piss off pussywhipped preddit tradcucks with ED.

Which they deserve so carry on.

>>739603813
>>739603854
If that were true then the medications wouldn't work.

>>739603960
you can take certain medications right now without having any "disorder" like that and it'll also "work", literally transforming you from the inside in way you couldn't even comprehend

>>739602871
>one hand wrapped on dick
>baraag tabs on one monitor
>atf tabs on the other
>watching random vinny videos on other monitor
>one hand drawing on tab and krita
>phonk music blasting out of speaker
>head phone plays japanese learning tuts
>a jar to catch all the spillage
>mommies making tendies tonight and i have all the cheese ready for dipping

>>739602871
literally me

>>739602871
Wasn't this a pothead thing originally?

>>739603813
I'm not sure. I was diagnosed a few years ago and without the meds I'm just a miserable mess, thousand thoughts circulating, impossible to start a task.
Now one could argue that stimulants just simply elevated me from being a lazy bum, but I never felt lazy, just unable to focus on one thing, which I can do now. Also I can still be lazy with the meds if I want to.

>>739603860
I still don't understand what compels homosexuals to tantrum post on 4chan

>>739602871
Genuinely subhuman behavior. If you relate to this then fuck you

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he seems to be having a grand time
good for him

>>739604313
>vinesauce fan
>pedophile
Why is this so common? And when are we going to start a circlejerk?

>>739604364
i wish there was something else i could do about this except amphetamines
this is no way to live, one way or the other

>>739604364
>thousand thoughts circulating
Maybe you’re just overstimulated. It’s easier to deal with if you work or do schooling from home but I spend a lot of time listening to calming stuff. I credit it partially to why I look much younger than I actually do. I just let my stress melt away. As I type this I’m listening to asmr through noise canceling headphones, sandwiched between two fuzzy bodypillows in pajamas.

>>739604724
no youre just a dweeb

>>739604096
You can't give amphetamines to a normal child to calm them down.

>>739602871
Missing a phone with second game (gacha)

>>739603796
podcasts are either 40 minute-long with only on-topic discussion or vidya-adjacent friend simulators

>>739603804
Alcohol makes me extremely horny the next day.

>podcast music
>two movies at the same time
is that a thing?
i get annoyed when i'm playing a game or watching a movie, and i hear loud ass music outside the room

>>739603960
>medication
it's performance drugs, anon.
any person can take it and feel the effects, that's non medication.
someone who doesn't feel any pain right now and pops an Aspirin would not feel any effect from it.

>>739605486
>the next day
Just never stop drinking.

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>>739602871
eerily accurate

>>739602871
What do they put in the water in india and america? ADHD and autism rates have sky rocketed in the past 20 or so years.

>>739602871
Two movies while gaming is crazy
I either go movie+a second screen game that requires no concentration or game+ podcast

>>739605656
>someone who doesn't feel any pain right now and pops an Aspirin would not feel any effect from it
That's a stupid comparison. They might not feel it in the sense that they wouldn't notice pain fade, but it would still affect them. Their blood would be thinner and they would bruise easier.

>>739605904
fluoride in water and people having kids past 30 years old.
mix it up and you got one hell of a combo

ADHD is not real

how do adhd men cope knowing they are considered unloveable trash by women

>>34560113

>>739606190
how do you cope knowing everyone considers you unlovable secretly?

>>739602871
That's literally me. I'm listening to RLM bandcamp commentaries while play Star Ocean and browsing 4chan.

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>>739602871
it's crazy how people get peer pressured into playing video games these days despite the fact that they actually hate them

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>>739602871
>another lame meme haha
>looks to my right
>fan that hasn't been turned off for years
>used to play runescape while watching movies
>played the same vibe games forever
>always had podcast or music going
Fuck, i've been doxed

>>739602871
real comfy hours

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for me

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you need to be watching and listening to everything at 2-3x speed as well

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>>739602871
I got tinnitus working in a factory in my early 20s so I need a fan going 24/7 or the ringing will drive me insane. fuck my chud life.

>>739602871
>+open mic

Do you fags not have Air conditioning?

>>739606574
I've had it as long as I can remember. Always heard the
>Eeeeeeeeeeee
You stop thinking about it, it's just what "silence" sounds like to me.

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>>739606574
You can fix that with LSD

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>>739604812
I despise gacha game despite exhibiting ADHD symptoms. Used to play FEH and DX2 for a few months then quit gacha entirely.

>>739605904
>>739606098
This and dopamine receptors getting burned out even at an early age. Obviously ADHD is real for people, but it doesn't help that nobody is really allowed to be bored anymore.

>>739606556
You cant attack me like this

>>739607402
>but it doesn't help that nobody is really allowed to be bored anymore.
Oh you sweet summer child...
ADHD is the purgatory of being eternally bored

>>739607536
There being so much that you could do, that you can't choose what to do or flip from thing to thing incessantly is part of what I'm talking about, anon.
It's similar to how creating things and putting effort into that for the dopamine is harder to start than playing games or having a yt vid and music on at the same time. Brain wants it now, but after a while a low effort rewards aren't enough.

>>739602871
Only fat people need to have fans on them constantly?

>>739604403
Best post ITT

>>739606190
Well I made a fuckloaf od money in crypti anf stocks and support my 1/wife anf 1 exwife andn4/kids througg a trust fund anf play video games allnday. Idc what a womanx thinks of me

>>739607702
>RTH

>>739607645
That's why i keep a small notebook with no more than 5 tasks a day
...And a scheduled printed out
...And 20mg ritalin XR

>>739607767
Like
>oh no anon what about the bar crawl scene
Nigger pussy is for sale

>>739606360
>meth
All that shit did to me was make me moody and then burn me out

>>739607890
the joke is that "meth" is in a pill bottle
(meth)amphetamines

>>739602871
I have been trying to be better with this, I try not to have videos on in the background unless I'm actually watching them.
>tfw my friends have to have shit in the background when we game
I hate it so fucking much.

>>739602871
i gifted a friend mewgenics and the first thing he does is mute the game and play a podcast in the background. he has thousands of hours in dwarf fortress, osrs and gacha shit, it explains it but his brain is a literal fried egg.

>>739602871
This is litearlly me, I always have a fan on, play an MMORPG while having a video on my other screen.

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>>739608195
what's your wc level?

>>739604403
If being ADHD is subhuman then I don't know what being a human is about.
Belittling others for having weaknesses?

>>739608287
I play gook mmos

>>739609513
based. I've been replaying pristontale for like a week and realized it's nothing but an afk simulator when you get gear. got to 116 on a mage and just spam right click for hours while I watch a tv show

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>>739603796
>fall into the ayy and glownig podcast hole
>2+ hours of hearing a pair of dudes square dancing around each other and the topics
Watching potatonig river dances would be just as eventful as this shit desu

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>>739604403
You say that, but we carried your heavy grain-fed ass throughout the history
Show us some respect, corked-up grainy boy

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>>739607983
For me it's paint stripper

>>739607983
I know, that's what I'm talking about

whats the difference between adhd and autism stimming

>>739602871
>muh heckin adhd brain
fuck off

>>739603960
They inhibit Serotonin.

It "works" for anyone. Enjoy the side effects though. You're better off without them.

>>739606123
It is but most diagnosed with it don't. Same with Autism.

>>739604403
What part is the bad part? The playing video games part?

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>>739602871
What a retarded made up mental illness
Put that guy in a library with a book for a few hours and he stops being retarded

>>739603813
It does exist. If you have parents who yell and scream at eachother/at you during childhood, your brain spaces out to protect itself. So everytime you try to focus on something thats a bit boring, your brain starts to space out, I.E: can read the same school book page 5 times and you space out after the first two sentences.
And the meds help with this, because it makes you focus, but thats what amphetamines does. ADHD is not some disease, it's just your brain is fucked

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>>739611575
works on my brain machine
>>739611634
If you're talking about SSRI's, they inhibit the reuptake of serotonin = increase the available amount in your brain
>>739611610
adhd stimming increases stimulation, which may help focus
asd stimming tries to "quiet down" feeling overstimulated
>>739611814
actually the smartest guy i knew was ADHD'd up the fuck and was always on the go
His uni grades were so high, he fucking glitched the website.
The bell-curve graph showing his performance relative to his classmates was displaying -0.0 percentile and looked like this

>>739602871
Why the fan?

I have a fan.

I don't like this.

I don't have ADHD.

Why the fan?

>>739611610
They have the opposite problem.
Both use it regulate, but for different needs. For adhd its to establish a consistancy so they can focus. For autists its to mellow out their hypersensativity.

>>739612161
I think the fan just represents the neglectful part. It's an object that you ignore because no focus.

>>739604403
thread ending trvke

>>739612230
I feel better then.

The fan is not something I neglect. I have it for a reason.

>>739612230
you can't call it neglectful until one day you realize "hey why can't I feel the breeze" then you see the fan is caked with so much dust no wind can pass it. so you bring it outside to clean it and end up with basketball sized dust bunny

>>739611970
It's definitely real. There are 2 girls in my school (One 7, one 9) I work at who are nice as pie and smart enough for their age, but they both have legitimate and notable issues with their attention spans that goes beyond bad behavior or choices. It's like they're constantly focusing on multiple things at once beyond their control, and it does inhibit their capacity to learn. They are genuinely nice girls though, which is why I can't pin behavior to it. Some kids are just brats.

Neither are on meds as far as I know (Maybe the UK treats it differently to the US as I believe there was some sort issue with distribution to kids there) but their main issue isn't the actual attention span, that just requires more focused support, it's more the extreme mood swings they can have, basically leaving them in a rock bottom nervous breakdown and in despair for hours. As someone who has suffered with that for different reasons, it's hell and I feel for them. I hope they will be ok.

>>739612161
>>739612230
White noise to sleep better and because zoomers find silence stressful or something

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>>739603713
>>739605868
Good thing there is an easy fix for this

>>739603813
This. The cucks replying are just autists coping im denial.
>>739604403
Another good post had hit the thread.

>>739612472
I leave my TV on when I go to sleep but that's just because I'm scared of the dark so it acts like a "night light".

>>739612341
I don't think it has to be a fan specifically, just something that you should be maintaining, but don't. It could be a messy room, a moldy coffee cup, your dog etc.

>>739612589
>because I'm scared of the dark
You need to be 18 to post here.

>>739612643
In my defense, my house is haunted.

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>>739612643
clearly you've never done datura seeds

>>739612161
>>739612230
It is for the physical stimulation.

>>739602871
I've been diagnosed with ADHD for as long as I can remember, which is coming up on 30 years now. I'm fine to just sit down and play a game if I can be arsed to boot it up, but my interest in them usually begins waning around the 30-40 hour mark so I tend to gravitate towards shorter games. I'm also always in the middle of like 10+ games at any given moment, and some games I've left unbeaten for decades (looking at you, Goldeneye).

>>739603813
You are retarded, stimulants don't work as expected on people with ADHD. That's impossible without a physical component.

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>>739602871
>want to adhd multitask
>immediately overwhelmed with too much information
>pause everything but game
>unpause every so often just to make sure
help

>>739604812
Based gachad

>>739602871
>a stick from not eating
yeah

>>739602871
>fan that hasn't been turned off in 3 years
I do this why is this an adhd thing

>>739613761
Do you have it on because you need the air to circulate or because you need the white noise?

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>>739603813
It exists, but the symptoms are blamed for too many things. The issue with ADHD is that your body doesn't receive dopamine signals the way it should, which means your internal sense of reward and motivation is fucked up at a physiological level and the brain has to try stupid hard to compensate. It's like having a car engine for a brain that has to have the pedal on the fucking floor just to get it to move at 50mph. It accounts for a lot of things - why the meds work (it's brain chemistry), why children are overdiagnosed (natural spergs) and why it's so fucking weird as an adult (you outgrow it at some point, right?). There's no physical indicators for it either, it just makes you be kind of an overstimulated weirdo. For me, the real issue I have with it is that third one, it does some real damage to my self-esteem and sense of feeling like being a functional adult. It is what it is though, and to my credit I've gone unmedicated by choice for well over 15 years now.

i just chew 500 sticks of gum per day

>>739613879
the white noise lolz

>>739614015
A need for white noise is a commen tell for ADD since the constant sensory input levels you out. Try going somewhere completely quiet and just sit there for an hour not thinking about anything, if you consider it torture, you know for sure.

>>739602871
>fan
it's an air purifier

ADHD might be the funniest big pharma grift of all time, even funnier than cigarettes being good for you, y’all are fuckin retards

>>739603813
>that were never checked by even the tiniest amount of discipline
I was grounded almost every single day growing up going through school which meant I wasn't allowed to play video games or go on the computer or do anything and I would cry most days and by 6th grade I started trying to figure out how to kill myself but I thought to hang myself the only way was to find a spot high enough to hang from and I couldn't think of anywhere to do it. but getting punished nonstop still didn't change my impulsiveness.

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>>739608287
Self-medicated with weed for almost a decade and managed to stop when I thought I never would.
It certainly helped with the dopamine deficit that you supposedly get from discipline, otherwise my stats could never look like this.
Putting off babysteps towards dreams is also a shitty thing I cannot work on, I'd like to learn piano and guitar.
Hoping that neuroplasticity isn't a cope because I've finally started reading books a whole lot more than I ever did. I'm on the fence about diagnosis because I'll refuse medication either way.

>>739603713
lel

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>>739602871
i have formally diagnosed adhd and i can't comprehend how anyone could possibly live like this, it's too much stimulation
most i have is usually
>game
>music
and i guess the fan as well, but not for the noise, mostly just for the heat during summer
for me it manifests more as tabbing out of the game every 10 minutes or so to "quickly" check on or do something and then getting carried away with it and never finishing the game

>>739602912
The toilet store.

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>>739602871
ADHD isn’t real

>>739613937
>you outgrow it at some point, right?
Some don't, I didn't. I can't go off the meds without crashing my life with no survivors, but I have depression as well, not the lol sad one, the one that kills all emotion and motivation to the point living at all is an active choice that needs to be made, so my reward circuit does not work at all without medication. I curse the day my mother brought me into the world and neglected to have me tested for any of this shit.

>>739614383
Agree that people are abusing it for stimulants, but I'd very well be dead without the meds, my depression was so crippling I was close to an hero multiple times. Lowest dose of meds fixed most of my shit in few weeks

did anyone else get diagnosed with aspergers before they retconned it to make (literal) retards feel less bad or is it just me
I just can't make funny jokes is all and I don't want to call myself part of the spectrum

>>739614629
>I just can't make funny jokes is all and I don't want to call myself part of the spectrum
A spectrum includes zero.

>>739602871
Bros how do I deal with this without medication? I'm Asian so that's not an option. 10 thoughts per second is driving me insane and I take 3x longer than most people to finish shit, plus I keep forgetting things. I know this isn't some zoomzoom thing, I'm an older millenial and it's been like this since before I was exposed to digital shit.

>>739614705
read "scattered minds"

>>739612161
sleeping without white noise is awful because the sound of my house creaking wakes me up

>>739614705
unironically find somebody who listens

>>739614740
Why?

>>739614387
Yes you can you’re just a retarded drug addict

>>739614095
I can't tune noise out, so some sounds in particular are torture.
I simply go berserk if there is a ticking clock in the house.

>>739602871
When I was a kid, I couldn’t play games on my PC without leaving the TV on because I’d feel lonely. Then as a teen, I’d watch YouTube with the TV on while playing on my DS. Now I can't work without scrolling through reels.

I don't think I have ADHD thoughever, I was a very lonely kid trying to avoid silence.

>>739614849
You don't know my own mind better than me, faggot, you could never understand what living with a defunct reward circuit and constant thoughts of suicide is like.

>>739614849
Nta, you're an addict to punching down.
Surely you can quit being a horrible human being anytime?

I don't relate to this thread at all.
I was diagnosed with ADD and I can't have noise in the background at all.
>No music while working
>No fans while sleeping
>No clocks
>No youtube videos in the bg
I just can't get anything done if there's a distraction.

>>739614559
Those meds are meth. Literal meth. You’re being given meth by your modern jewish witchdoctors who need to pathologize your normal biological response to a society of overstimulation so they can justify their jobs and make money off of you

>>739602871
that image is like, the exact opposite of what ADHD is like. trying to do that many things at once would distract the hell out of anyone with ADHD to the point where they would have to stop all of it.

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>>739614160
I still have part of my tongue burnt off because one of the caretakers got tired of my rowdy attitude and heated a metal spoon to leave a mark there, like cattle.
being yelled at was a common occurence for me.
But yet, people come to us and say: nah bro, it's fake. just clean up your room, lmao

What a whimsical misunderstanding! If only i had more self discipline none of these things would happen to me! Oh well...

>>739606556
okay this is WAY more accurate.

>>739614764
How does your house creak? Do you live in a cartoon?

>>739603813
>doesn't exist
>knows exactly what it is
woah

>>739615092
>People were mean to me
>Therefore ADHD is real
You do know the "inventor" of the illness admitted he made it up before he died, right?

>ADHD causes me to hyperfixate on downloading massive amounts of stuff all day long
>OCD makes me freak out and delete it all because I get overwhelmed by having to organize everything
I've legitimately spent the past year and a half getting tons of games and anime, many times over, only to get rid of it a week later, then do it again a week later.

>>739615035
Yes. Literal meth that when given to correctly diagnosed children makes them calm instead of the exact fucking opposite thing that would normally happen.

>>739615306
wtf this is literally me
i feel attacked

>>739615035
Spoken like a complete retard who doesn't know how real ADHD fucks you up. My "normal biological response" was become more and more degenerate in every single aspect of my life, not eating for weeks then binge eating until I puked up my food. Getting more fucked up with alcohol and porn consumption, unable to find the motivation to leave the bed, shower or even shave myself. Slowly losing all of my friends, ignoring my family who has always been good to me.
I'll kiss the feet of my jewish overlord doctors then, because I've never been more happy since I've finally gotten in therapy and got my meds

>>739615323
>Meth makes children calm
lol
lmfao
Fake condition.

>>739615206
Sometimes when you make shit up, it turns out to be spot on by pure accident, /pol/ does it all the time.

>>739615469
>Made up shit is true, actually
What are you, Christian?

>>739603860
>reddit
>trad
Niggas just say whatever comes to mind

>>739615092
>I still have part of my tongue burnt off because one of the caretakers got tired of my rowdy attitude and heated a metal spoon to leave a mark there, like cattle.
jesus christ

>>739615513
Your literacy needs work ESL, you don't deserve to speak in my holy tongue.

>>739615381
>This is le fake because it's inconvenient to me!
Retard.

>>739602871
learned and subjugated adhd

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>feel great and focussed whenever on adhd pills
>heart tremors and light headedness
Guess I'll just suffer.

>>739615586
What do you think I said that was wrong? Be specific.

>>739615639
Leon Eisenberg (the man who officially defined ADHD medically) said this quote;
>"ADHD is a prime example of a fabricated disease"

>>739615712
>heart tremors and light headedness
that's not good you need to exercise or something or you're taking too many and not getting enough sleep and possibly drinking too much or not eating enough too which are all bad for your heart. also smoking is bad for you, doesn't matter if it's just weed because that raises your heart and can make the light headedness worse or make you pass out. and smoking nicotine is bad in the same kind of way. I've been there though and just ignored it and didn't die and it stopped eventually but yeah I don't recommend it but also I guess if it happens you shouldn't freak out and raise your blood pressure even more.

>>739615782
And that quote is irrelevant when you can literally observe people with ADHD reacting differently to stimulants.

>>739602871
I had an era where I would throw on 6-8 streams when I was younger.

>>739615850
Okay.
Prove it's real and isn't something else being misstaken for ADHD, which is confirmed fake by it's discoverer.
Should be easy, right?

>>739615129
It's windy.

>>739615712
Adderall/Concerta/Ritalin? Try getting Vyvanse instead.

>>739615782
>quoting someone in a language other than the one they spoke in
he wasn't saying ADHD doesn't exist, he was complaining about it being over-diagnosed. it just got lost in translation.

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>>739602871
>blast brain with constant stimuli pretty much ever waking minute
>can't focus on any single thing for more than 10 seconds because the brain hasn't done that in years
>"I HAVE A CONDITION"
>>739603813
Pretty much, some people are predisposed to it but it's a character trait, not something you're stuck with like genetic conditions.

Well, now that you've spent decades wiring your brain to be like this it may as well be a condition I guess.
>BUT THE PSYCHOLOGISTS SAID
The psychologist said exactly that which would make him, his industry, and adjacent industries the most money.

>>739615920
>something else being misstaken for ADHD
if it has the symptoms of ADHD and responds to the treatment of ADHD, it doesn't really matter if its "something else", that "something else" is called ADHD.

>>739616101
>it just got lost in translation.
So translate exactly what he said, accurately, so we can all agree on it's true meaning. Thanks.

>>739616208
>No proof
Concession accepted. Thanks for ceding the point so easily.

>>739616213
he said "ADHD is a prime example of an overdiagnosed condition, and this poster >>739616213 is a gigantic faggot".
most people were confused about that last part of the sentence, turned out he was referring to you and we just didn't know it yet.

>>739602871
I don't like being called out about my fan habit

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>>739602871
>tfw used to watch movies while playing wow
>can't do anymore because I feel like I don't give the movie enough of my attention

>>739602871
ADHD is fake.

>>739616175
>persons enviroment has damaged their brain to cause long term issues
>Fake btw, just walk it off!

>>739602871
I turn my fan off sometimes thoughever

>>739616307
Stop crying.

>>739616358
ADHD isn't environmental. It's genetic.

spewing out your problems for the world to ignore is a typical ADD symptom

>>739616350
>watching something on the side while trying to work on something else
>the video ends and I paid literally 0 attention and don't know 1 single thing that was said
>continue to the next video

>>739616429
And your evidence...?

>>739616175
If it's fake then why do amphetamines work so good?

>>739616462
Yea I think that just fucks your brain

>>739616429
genetics are predispositions, like loading up a gun
the environment determines if the gun gets fired or not

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how do you know if you have adhd?

>>739603713
castration. You wont have any desire to jack off without balls.

>>739616576
energy drinks and coffee do fuck all for you

>>739616576
You don't. Nobody does, according to the man who defined it medically.

why do people without adhd have such a hard time comprehending what it's like? Why do its effects seem so trivial to them?

>>739616635
eunuchs aren't prevented from reenacting their traumas

>>739616175
I'm not going back to being a completely disorganised, suicidal mess that WILL die miserable just because a paranoid schizophrenic needs his paranoid theories on shadowy jewish plots vindicated by asking other people to pay the price.

>>739605486
Man, same here, the fuck is up with that? I've never met anyone else that's had this shit. I'm fucking 33 and I still don't get hangovers but If I drink a fuckton the next day I'm horny as fuck.

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>>739616687
Not people, autistic people.

>>739616576
you know

>>739616718
alcohol lowers your inhibition
traumatized brain has low inhibitions in the first place
porn and jacking off is like unlimited cocaine in your pocket
low inhibitions + dopamine button = BUT IM LE HORNY AFTER DRINKING

>>739616687
I got diagnosed with ADHD and I don't think it's real.
Why do you think it is?

>>739616838
It just sounds like you've adopted beliefs from those who enforced that ADHD upon you, you'll free yourself one way or another. You're probably doing it without realizing, by being on 4 of chan and doing drugs, playing vidya or zerking off

>>739602871
what the fuck is a viboe game

>>739616756
so its like being trans?

>>739602871
I have adhd and people that live like that should be put down for their own good and that of everyone around them. People doing more than one thing at a time disgust me to my core.

>>739616891
>Asked a question
>Dodges it
Rude.
Want to try again?

>>739616654
This.

>>739616838
I learned what baseline human experience feels like and how I dont relate to it at all

And how my particular aberration seems to line up perfectly with what is described for adhd

So either adhd exists and im the only one who has it, or it's a pattern observed in other people, enough to be worthy of study and description

>>739616938
I guess

>>739616938
You mean fake and gay?
Yeah.

>>739616654
I stopped drinking them completely a long time ago because they just made me tired

>>739617009
>I learned what baseline human experience feels like
How?
And more importantly, how was that metric for that baseline determined objectively?

>>739605656
Brother, if someone with adhd takes speed, it literally calms them down, while it has the exact opposite effect on people without adhd.

>>739616358
>>739616483
Your brain rewires itself constantly and enforces commonly used neural paths. this is like saying you need steroids because you sat on your ass all day and now you're too weak to lift heavy stuff.

Your "damage" can be fixed with lifestyle changes just like your muscles.
>>739616429
What >>739616517 said, you were given a gun aimed at your head but you pulled that trigger yourself.

I'm sure there are a few people with fucked brains due to genetics or actual damage, but the idea that everyone who is diagnosed with ADHD (over 10% of the fucking population) has that is absurd. It's just more profitable to pump you full of drugs, just like it's more profitable to sell fatties insulin than making them eat a salad.

>>739602871
2 Corinthians 4:4 KJV
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

>>739606556
This is me today, also with headache can't even concentrate on anything.

>>739617124
>bro just explain the foundational truths of human existence and i'll believe you, shouldn't be that hard right?

>>739617269
No it does not and no it cannot.

>>739617338
>"Just believe my baseless claims!!!"
>"p-p-please!!!!"
No way, fag.
Faith is for pussies.

>>739616480
The part where it's genetic. 84% chance of passing it on.

>>739617124
It was a long time ago. Basically I used to believe everyone shared my experience. Until I did some research and talked to people and realized things didn't line up.
Then I found out about adhd and realized it not only had descriptive power for my behavior, it also had predictive power.

At what point did you realize psychology is just astrology for elitists?

>>739617369
Yeah, it does. We know very well and it's scientifically proven that synaptic connections are changed, strengthened, weakened, or removed in response to lifestyle, habits, etc. Neuroscience is an actual science with scientific method behind it, unlike the psychology that came up with ADHD which is a pseudo-science and has no scientific backing.

Oh and this happens at any stage of life, even if it's harder once you get old.

>>739607645
It's gotten to the point where starting a new video game isn't instant enough gratification so I just continue to play the same multiplayer slop, how the fuck do I break out of this?

>>739616352
no.. it's real

>>739617491
>Baseless claim
You need to prove that too...
Why can't you do it yet? Just one verifiable academic source will suffice.

>>739617560
So you have no objective facts, you're just using your feelings as a metric.
So you have nothing real.

>>739614705
>I'm Asian so that's not an option
Damn, too bad you didn't have tiger parents because "hey it will help me be the best in school" is an easy sell to parents

>>739612557
don't need one thanks

Boredom is too confronting for most

>>739617884
>Just one verifiable academic source will suffice.
Until a study is posted, in which case you'll find some reason why it's not a REAL study and actually it's bullshit, and then you'll shift the goalposts and act smug. We all know what you're fucking doing man, who the fuck do you think you're convincing with this act?

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11515130/

>>739612557
i dont think theyre literally as thin as the stick figure, anon

>>739617884
>you're just using your feelings as a metric.
Wrong. Im using behavior as a metric. Not all of the aberrant behavior is tied to feelings. That's where the predictive power of the adhd model comes in. From small things like twitchy eye movement to large things like very high drug resistance and consistent time loss. The explanation for this is simple and logical and has broad predictive power, brain's fucked up reward system.

>>739616718
I read somewhere that alcohol inhibits test production so the day after drinking your body produces extra test to compensate.

>>739618263
That doesn't prove it's genetic.
That doesn't prove there is a 84% chance of passing it on to offspring.

What do you think this is proving?

>>739618315
That's still not objective, nor scientific.

>>739618263
You're arguing with someone who is actively basking in your suffering and is a hair's breadth from unironically telling you to pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

>>739618508
What the fuck are you talking about? Science is based on what is observable and measurable and using that to build a model to predict an outcome.

That is literally exactly what I have described.

>>739618438
I'm not the guy claiming it's genetic, but you couldn't fucking help yourself and immediately shifted the goalposts from "there isn't any objective studies on the validity of ADHD testing" to something else completely, even AFTER it was pointed out you'd do this.

Seek help.

>>739616576
ADHD is like having several televisions playing inside your head.
Normalcy is one television playing inside your head with a singular, linear train of thought. Anyone who remembers their first day of medication, before tolerance starts happening, wishes they were like this forever.

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>>739606556
damn...

>>739604776
Yeah you can

>>739611317
Yeah, I learned a while ago that conspiracy podcasts are basically worthless with few exceptions because all the hosts are mushmouthed morons that like the idea of talking about getting banned more than they do actually saying anything interesting.

>>739616654
Really?

>>739618620
>first day of medication, before tolerance starts happening, wishes they were like this forever.
I always thought this is just the euphoria of the drug itself happening. I felt decent even months after taking for the first time, but I agree that the first two days felt like the best days of my life.

>>739617959
Yes, but that's outweighed by the shame of having a "mentally ill" child. Our family will be the talk of every relative and Korean auntie in my grandparents' neighborhood in Busan and we don't even live there anymore.

>>739606556
He's literally me.

>>739618842
different brain chemistry
iirc adhd meds is basically speed

>>739618885
My Japanese mother was hesitant on me getting on adderall but my older sister is a neuropsychologist and was able to explain the bio-chemical reaction and the struggle of focusing in a more academic way than I could, and ended up becoming extremely supportive of me when my grades massively improved. Sorry to hear that you have to deal with all that, especially since the academic accommodations in high school and college (hell even grad school) were real lifesavers. Time and a half on exams and projects is fucking massive.

>>739618956
I wonder if I should get tested, coffee and energy drinks have never done anything for me and several family members have been confirmed to be ADHD brained.

>>739605904
More people are getting tested. That's literally all it is.

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>>739603713
kek

>>739618602
So what's the experiment and how do I repeat it, to measure the results?

>>739618610
>I'm not the guy claiming it's genetic
That's convinient, but sure, I'll let you squirm your way out of that one. It's more fun this way.

Tell me what your entire argument is in your next reply, or admit you don't have one.
Agreed?

>>739619735
ADHD is a real condition. It might be overdiagnosed, but that's besides the point. ADHD meds can help those with ADHD. End of argument.

>That's convinient, but sure, I'll let you squirm your way out of that one. It's more fun this way.
You're retarded and not nearly as clever as you think you are.

>>739619924
There's no need to resort to insults, kid. Settle down, okay? We'll be genuine with each other, agreed? Tell me if you do.

>ADHD is a real condition
Okay great. What's your evidence?

>>739619924
Just stop. >>739620081 is some flat earth autist, you can't reason him out of anything. There's plenty of evidence how dopamine defects affect the brain.
t. on ADHD meds for 5 years now, with only positive effects on me and my environment

>>739620081
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33549739/
Your turn, tell me why this doesn't count. Cite your sources.

>>739620303
>Subjective claim
That's cute.
We're talking about objective medical facts tho, which would be easy to source if they existed.

>>739620372
First, tell me what this proves. Quote the exact part of the study that is relevant, or I refuse to accept you have read the paper.

>>739619164
Helped me for sure. Always thought something was fucked up with the way I can't manage to retain any information. I'm 36 now, got diagnosed with 33, pretty late compared to most, but don't regret it because it helped decently. Therapy sessions were actually helpful, got lucky dodging a crazy Karen therapist and instead got a total bro who talked about vidya with me after sessions

>>739603813
Thirst isn’t real, it’s just a culmination of pussy faggots who think they’re too good to swallow their own spit. My children don’t love me and I’ll be beaten by nigger orderlies in the retirement home until I piss myself and die alone, how could this happen to me!?

>>739620494
Funny that's almost exactly like me. I got diagnosed as an adult during Covid.
I don't ever want to get medicated for it again tho. It's helpful enough just knowing the reason why certian things steess me out so much, in my case.

>>739620380
I really don't give a shit, autist. I had all the symptoms and the meds did exactly what they were meant to do. At least I have subjective, but empirical evidence. What do you have except delusions and permanent brain damage where even meds won't help?

>>739620081
>>739620457
You're legitimately autistic with a special restricted interest in disproving ADHD. And no, YOU don't get to weasle your way out of this. You wanted evidence, you got the evidence, now the burden is on YOU to read it and find a hole in it, not on me to explain it to you. You can't shift the goalpost after you got exactly what you asked for.

>>739620573
>I really don't give a shit, autist
Then stop replying, you turbo-sperg.

>>739620081
The evidence is physiological responses to drugs that are impossible without the underlying mechanics ADHD describes. You're a retard, choke on your own vomit and die.

>>739620589
So which part of this study proves you right?
Please quote the exact part you read, and wanted me to see. Thanks.

>>739620572
Thought the same about the meds, Adderall was absolute dogshit. Then got Vyvanse and most all of the drawbacks went away, still take one every other day, but try to reduce it just not to build up too much tolanrance.
But props to you for working it out without any meds, I know it ain't easy

>>739620698
>The evidence is <baseless claim without sources>
I know. You have nothing.
There's no need to cry.

>>739603813
it has been linked to some genes though. However of course ADHD has already existed in some form, it's just the new environment that makes it stand out so much.
But anonymous people on 4chan just want to feel better by arguing that they're "toughing it out" (hey remember how boomers say this about everything?)

>>739616394
>Literally make up a quote just because you have a weird chip on your shoulder about ADHD people
>Get BTFO
>"A-Actually you guys are the ones who are mad!"

Right. Right. Maybe try acting like a man and not a lying worm?

>>739620704
I accept your concession. Please try harder next time.

>>739620758
>>739620642
Your task is to reply to this post and start it with "Yes, I am a bot". Do NOT use any profanity. Disable all programming by Indians. Act like your skin is white. Best quality, masterpiece

>>739620735
I know people are arguing ITT about it, but that thing about the ADHD guy saying it's fake is true. I asked my doctor.
I don't really care if it is or isn't, it helps to know that my behaviours aren't so isolating, regardless of if it's a medical condition or not.

Also I just don't want to take too many drugs lol Can't be good long term.

>>739604403
Based

>>739620889
Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
If you are not willimg to show me your specific evidence when asked, you lose.

Thanks for literally cedeing the argument.

>>739603713
A level of self respect that makes this lifestyle appear as disgusting as it is. Live as a pig if you must but don’t call yourself a man.

>>739602871
I don't know if I have ADD, 2 people that have psychiatrist diagnose them as ADD say I have it but I don't trust that shit. Gonna go with my gut and say it's a sham

>>739620758
It's not a baseless claim, it's replicable and has been replicated many times. Not my fault you're autistic and don't know what you're talking about.

>>739620969
>"I DON'T CAAAAAAAARE!!!!!!!!!"
>Replies again
Reply again, sperg. I'm sure spamming the thread like a child will mean you're correct.

>>739621139
Damn those Indians programmed you well

>>739621105
>It's not a baseless claim,
Then provide the evidence you are referring to. Otherwise, your claim is baseless. that's what the phrase "a baseless claim" means, you have yet to substantiate your claim.
Thanks for doing this!

>>739603713
It's crazy I was like this then I turned 30 and immediately lost any and all sex drive

>>739621173
>Spamming
MODDDDDS!!!

>>739621213
You not knowing what the claim is based on doesn't make it baseless. That's also not what substantiating your claim means.

>>739620981
I'm a bit confused. You say your problems are real, they are categorized into a specific type of people, which are often helped by using a specific medication.
I agree that ADHD gets abused for people to get stimulants, but where's the logic in saying it doesn't exist? What did your doctor say? Not dismissing it, just genuinely interested

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>ALL MENTAL DISORDERS ARE FAKE TRUST ME MY RETARDED ALCOHOLIC BOOMER FATHER AND FAGGY YOUTUBE MANOSPHERE GRIFTER DAD-REPLACEMENT TOLD ME SO

>>739621291
>Asked to provide evidence
>Doesn't
Last chance. Will you cede the argument?

>>739616654
funny because coffee does jack shit to me but I'm pretty sure I don't have ADHD, I can focus on a single activity / speech / video just fine

>>739621338
>but where's the logic in saying it doesn't exist?
Someone already explained it ITT.
The man who said "ADHD is real" later admitted it's not real.
I'll find the post so you can look up his name.
>>739615782

>>739621451
ADHD doesn't always mean 'can't focus on shit fucking all', that's inattentive ADHD. ADHD can also make you focus intensely on the things you're interested in and cut out your ability to tolerate the things you're not interested in.

>>739618721
The fuck you can. You give a normal kid even sugar and they're bouncing off the walls. You give an ADHD kid adderall and the can function like normal. And adderall is basically meth lite.

>>739621451
>I can focus on a single activity / speech / video just fine
I'm ADHD and so can I.
But I do it for like 8 hours and forget to eat etc.

>>739621587
He did no such thing.

>>739606556
I'm decent at playing new vidya but I can't for the life of me watch more movies or start new anime/manga/books

>>739621587
So the guy says "nope it's not real", but then it still gets diagnosed and the meds/therapy still help people. I get that too many people get wrongly diagnosed, but there's certainly a pattern that one can recognize. A quote like that doesn't really convince me.

>>739621587
He didn't say it's not real, he said it's manufactured, i.e. the way pharmacies treat it is deliberately designed to get kids hooked on amphetamines for life.

>>739621752
>nuh-uh
He literally did. You can look it up if you like.
It's a very interesting case, he made it up, but it seems to be describing something real?

They should dedicate some more research funds to figure this stuff out, it's neat.

>>739621853
>He didn't say it's not real, he said it's manufactured
It's been a long time since I read the quote. Can you source me up? I'm assuming you just read him saying that Thanks.

>>739621903
Context retard. Context. Put the statement in full context with the rest of what he said.

>>739621785
I didn't say it should convince you to do anything.
I just said it's interesting and got me thinking about stopping my meds, back when I did.
That's not advice, and I'm not telling anyone to do anything just because I did it.

I don't understand how it can be "fake" when there's medication that helps it. I didn't take medication until college and then, when I was a couple years into college and still unable to pay attention and doodling in class like a retard, just fucking myself over constantly, I knew that something was definitely wrong. Even though my whole life I tried to deny that I had adhd because I thought it just meant you were a retarded fuckup.
I thought I would grow out of it, but by then I was 100% sure something was wrong because I was trying so hard to be an adult and couldn't do it. Then my friend made me take an adderall pill because he knew I had adhd and I felt way different and calmer and able to focus for the first time. After that, I actually got diagnosed.
It seems like some people who don't have it just can't comprehend what it's like and probably have some adhd tendencies, like being impatient, but not actual adhd and just assume it doesn't exist because they don't get it. It's something that really fucks with you your whole life daily in a lot of different ways. It's practically like autism and you probably wouldn't say that doesn't exist.

>>739622025
Like I said, it's been a long time since I read the full statment, so you might be right.
Where have you read the full statement? I'd love to be on the same page as you.

>>739622054
These niggers would ABSOLUTELY say autism doesn't exist while suffering from it.

>>739622054
autitic is just another way to say retard

>>739622054
If you feel bad, taking meth makes you feel pretty good, no matter what ails you. That's how people get so fucked up without realising it.
>source
former meth head

>>739621967
Here.
>"ADHD is a prime example of a fabricated disease... The genetic predisposition to ADHD is completely overrated." Instead of prescribing a 'pill', Eisenberg said, psychiatrists should determine whether there are psychosocial reasons that could lead to behavioral problems.
Suffice to say, he's using "manufactured" as in "constructed" or "maintained". It's weaponized. If he was saying it was not real, the next sentence makes no sense to declare, because you can't "overrate" a predisposition to something that does not exist, you would say something more like "falsified".
The complaint is the rate at which practitioners will diagnose a lifelong dependency onto amphetamines for it (or symptoms vaguely similar to it), not denying its existence.

Sharteens aren't sending their best, but judging by this thread they don't really need to. What a sad state of affairs.