Is anyone concerned that the only time fighting games (besides SF6, I suppose) get any buzz is when relying on the fame of other IP? Actual Tekken character reveals get no buzz these days ever since the Geese and Negan reveals in T7.Same with Lucy in GG, Kenshiro/Ronaldo in CotW, and of course MK1's many guests like Omni-Man and Homelander. Are FGs cooked?
Culture is dying, everything becoming crossover Fortnite slop is just the natural heat death
>"sky rocketed" all the way to position 62
We live in an era of long planning live service games, meaning that your casual fuck (the majority of the audience) will only buy the game once and not spend any money with all the seasonal garbage.In order to fix that, companies realized that big recognizable IPs kinda hook said casuals and now we live in a loop where every character is everywhere every time in some manner.
>>739603398This. If you want something other than a remake remaster fanservice port or crossover, you have to play something not mainstream.
>>739603341its because fighting games are anti new blood by nature of revolving around 1v1 matches.in their current state new players are pretty much given an ultimatum of >study frame data for a year to maybe have a chance at winning the average match>play another gameand the vast majority of people will just play another game>inb4 "buh thats why we have skill based matchmaking!that completely falls apart when there's no "buffer" of players for people to climb the skill ladder and git gud against. they're just thrown against the wall of meta tryhards otherwiseso you only really get new blood during mainstream crossovers or hyped releases.in a way, you can blame fighting game fags themselves for refusing to let up even a little bit and literally slaughtering interest in their genre outside of the most autistic of players
>>739603341Some of the most successful fighting games have been with characters from non-vidya IPs. DBFZ, Marvel vs Capcom, all those anime arena fighters. People just like seeing thing they know in a video game.
>>739603341">"skyrocketed>needle barely moved
>>739603550The flavors of not mainstream thing: >earthbound-inspired JRPG/platformer about loss and depression>cozy farm/dating sim with combat on the side>deckbuilding roguelike with PSX graphicsYour image belongs in a LOL thread, find a better one to make your point.
>>739604051You forgot the samey ass lazy reused assets edgy soulslikesOh wait you love those
>>739604110I thought that trend died years ago, but if they're still around then yeah they belong up there.That's hardly constructive input though.
>>739603398We're in the "Cash in" era of culture. Where everyone is rushing to turn in their IPs for a quick buck and retire rich. The drive to create anew is dying. If you don't already own a valuable IP to cash in, then you attempt to buy one, and flip it real fast. It's like the whole brain rot meme exchange on roblox.
>>739603341everyone wnats to rape.
>>739604051If you want recommendations you can just ask for them directly and politely, rather than do this obnoxious "every game is Eartbound" song and dance.
>>739604435you're arguing with someone whos brain is fried, he just want to post about the next flop instead of playing games
>>739604435>>739604579On the contrary, I'd be willing to make recommendations if you want. But I zoom into your image and the first thing I see is Sea of Stars fuck off
>>739604791oh no, one out of 60+ games is not to your preference. guess that means everything sucks...This is the logic of a child.
>>739604891>preferenceIt's literally the meme. It tells me whoever made the image, and naturally whoever reposted it, is completely unscrutinizing; it's just the webcomic again. You're not important, I can look elsewhere for reliable or at least meaningful suggestions.
>>739603341Fighting games were always a niche thing. They never had much buzz.
>>739604791>On the contrary, I'd be willing to make recommendations if you want.Just one post before this you were claiming all indie were deck builders/cozy farm sim/earthbound inspired and now you actually know all the hidden gems? Make up your mind.
>>739603398NTA but that's really not why. Fighting games are notoriously unpopular because they have a very very high skill floor, perhaps the biggest outside of MOBA. They even sold like shit in the gamecube days but the reason why SC2 sold so well was because it had Link in it, and thus fighting game companies took that gimmick and ran with it ever since. It's the only thing that pushes numbers for this genre and has been for decades. This really has nothing to do with Fortnite when fighting games actually did it first.
>>739603341I'm more concerned that Baki in particular caused a noteable uptick.Ronaldo sure didn't do COTW any favors though. Will have to see if Kenshin brings anyone to the table or not.MK's a joke anyway so who the fuck even cares.
>>739603398Fighting games had guest characters long before Fortnite
>>739603550Oh yeah... Indie fightanslmaolol
>>739604435>CocoonIsn't that from the tranniggers who made Mixtape?
>>739609570Eslaf++Combo DevilsShot One FightersHell, even the ATLA fighting game looks more fun than mainstream fighters even though it is 100% just fanservice for an old cartoon, but it's not indie.>>739609750Surely you are old enough to know the difference between a publisher and a developer. Probably not, from your writing style you must be 15 years old.
>>739603819>study frame data for a year to maybe have a chance at winning the average matchThis literally isn't true, but it being the common perception holds people back from even trying so much that it may as well be.
>>739603341>>739603438this, holy shit what the cope
>>739603819This. Anyone who played the arcades during the 90s and early 00s knows that fighting games is mostly losing 70-90% of the time in public. The only reason people stuck with it is because of the lack of competitive multiplayer games and mall culture. Once LAN parties and MMOs started to became popular everyone moved on. The only people left in the FGC are autists and oldfags that refused to play other genre.
>>739603398Good. When the enshitification is complete I can finally get rid of even the one or two things keeping me into vidya.Normies can keep eating whatever turd they are being served.
>>73960343862 out of 50000 or whatever games on steam is high
>>739603550Modern games are cash-in Fortnite slop, indie games are political or about gender politics, or >>739604051. At least western indie games are, I just play Japanese indies now
>>739611442No they're aren't bro you need to get out of your echo chamber bubble and asap.
>>739611878Ok, recommend something. I already have UFO 50, Vividlope, Thronefall, Hammerwatch, Tactical Breach Wizards, Tiny Thor, Mayhem Brawler, Cathedral, Star of Providence, Toree 3D and 2, Jydge, and Shatter. There are some others, like Balatro, which I've yet to play.
>>739612131What the hell? So you don't even believe your own claims. If that's not a concession idk what is. Try Minishoot Adventures, Destructure, Northern Journey, Enuurom, Besiege, White Knuckle, Pipistrello, En Garde, Go Mecha Ball, idk.
>>739605795>They never had much buzzBait.
>>739603341fighting games have been dead forever now but a recent funny one is the vgas kicking that shit out of the main event and into the preshow as people filter in to their seats
>>739603341It's hard to be excited for [classic character appearing once again for the 27th time in a row but now you have to pay for him].Fighting games are all endless sequel slop, that's why they're dying. And nobody wants to make anything new since they don't think it'll sell since every new FG is just a fucking clone of existing ones and they're all worse than what they copy. Yeah no shit you're not going to play Road Pummeler you're going to play Street Fighter.
>>739603341>yujiro hanmaSomeones gonna get raped. And it isn't the women.
>>739612258Thanks for the list, andhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1634360/EMUUROM/>minor spelling mistake
Not surprised at all. Unless you're part of that fighting game niche, this is the only thing that's going to keep you interested in new releases of titles that peaked years ago. Personally, this does nothing for me. I love Baki but I'd rather play a Baki fighter, not Tekken with one Baki character. Same shit with Ken in CotW. (Yes I'm aware both of these IPs have had a fighting game in the distant past, I'm trying to demonstrate a principle.)
It sure feels funny knowing that you can release the biggest piece of turd ever, causing some major butthurt among your fans and still save your product by releasing a DLC that's popular with zoomers.
>>739603398I think this anon would die if he saw fighting mega mix
Crapcom troons mad
>>739613240I hope Yujiro being in Tekken is a precursor to another Baki fighter
>>739603550Replace indie with retro and this would be accurate
>>739603438Frog is unfortunately correct in this one.>IT BEAT BATTLEFIELD "6"!Yeah, no shit, because that game is declining since EA has no idea what to do with it. Congrats on beating a coughing baby?
>>739603550Ah yes, we should instead be pursuing wonderful “””indie””” games such as E33 and Mixtape.
>>739604435>Talos 2>IndieNagga, what?
>>739603341Tekken 8 released with all the characters that people give a shit about already in. Besides Heihachi.There is literally no tekken character left with sizeable legacy.
>>739603341Nobody likes when game characters come in as dlc since they rightfully should have been there from the start, unlockables at worst. I'm not paying for something that was there last game. I don't like crossover characters much but I don't like dlc in general
>>739614612bro you need to fucking get exposed to more games, that's kind of pathetic you think that's a gotcha, as if indiefags don't resent E33's nepo shit and don't even consider Mixtape to be a game
>>739612258Minishoot and Destructure are the ones that caught my interest, and thanks to the former, I found this game: https://store.steampowered.com/app/3281300/DUNGEON_RAZE/
>>739603550Indie games are just as soulless as AAA. Most of them are highly derivative and don't venture beyond a few genres like metroidvania, rogue like, deck builders, etc. They are also aesthetically uninspired and tend to not have any level design because everything is procgen.
>>739604435How many of those are rogue likes and metroidvanias? Lmao Indie fags are retarded
>>739603550>indieslop>goodlollmfao
>>739604051Based. Indies are trash.
>>739616349>How many of those are rogue likes and metroidvaniasLike 10 or 11 in total. Linear games are far and away the more popular choice for indies since it's way simpler to make.
>>739604435Kek, Small Saga is in that pic, which is exactly why I posted this:>>739611442. But I will admit that I purchased and played some of the games on that list. I am looking forward to the Next Fest next month, to see if there's anything interesting
>>739603819I like sf6 as a noob because the modern controls actually let me play. I was able to get to gold rank, whereas in any other game that wouldn't be possible. So you could adopt an sf6 style modern control system to make the genre more fun. Also, nerf throws and have an upper limit on combos. Also give all characters a quick move that lets them escape corner rape scenarios.
>>739616594Sure. But the rest have uninspired pixel graphics. Or are just puzzle games. Really these games are no more creative than AAA stuff.
>>739617032less than 50% in that image have pixel art, and less than 25% are remotely puzzle-like.i mean honestly. just admit you don't enjoy video games already. don't play around with "they're all earthbound pixelshit depression" when you're given dozens of recs across a plethora of genres and styles.
>>739603341>Baki crossing over with Tekken means that a creative work of the Itagaki family is now only one degree of separation from Animal CrossingParu looking to make her move. Calling it now.
>>739608095No, Fighting games are unpopular because they are nearly as predatory as gacha and their competitive scene is filled with predators and activists.
>>739617496So if we are taking about games that are generic, most of them are. They are either>Pixel art >Rogue like>Puzzle>Deckbuilder>MetroidvaniaEtcHow is this more creative than AAA?>just admit you don't enjoy video games already.No, I just prefer high effort games, with actual virtual worlds to explore, that aren't just proc gen garbage. Or are derivative of older AAA games.Very few indie games are like that, and the ones that are very rarely get talked about. Indie fags are mostly obsessed with proc gen garbage, platformers, and rogutroon slop.
>>739617902Beastars was fun, not really feeling Sanda or her other one though...
The game with 3 literal Baki reference characters should not be surprised that the Baki crossover finally happened
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>>739618686What does some discord faggotry have to do with my post? You needed to be told this?
>>739618817I found it funny
>>739618163how to use a chart:1. skim2. something catches your eye3. look it up to see to learn more4. pirate it if you like what you seethere's nothing more to it... i don't see the use in your prattling about how "most games are X". just ignore those ones? there's something for everyone in the chart.>fag troon fag troonor maybe you're simply a broken, miserable person who doesn't want to find joy.
>niche game announces legacy character>only niche gamers care>niche game announces quirky normalfag crossover>normalfags care for approximately 3 hours before the next announcement in their twitter feed makes them forget the niche game exists
>>739603341returning characters in SF are hype because they have brand new animations and are in a new artstylesame with GGSTreturning characters in Tekken and Fatal Fury feel like paintjob ports from previous gamesalso Tekken didn't have a good newcomer since Tekken 5 since 22 years agoMK didn't have a good newcomer since fucking MK3
