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>Deadlocks numbers have plummeted

what went wrong and how would you save Deadlock?
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they mostly unfucked the urn, so i'm good
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deadshlock
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>>739604624
I'm waiting for a update (real, give me trapper)
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>>739604696
Trappers gone bro he got turned into graves
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>>739604624
I would just let it die
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>>739604624
It's not even fucking out.
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>>739604624
i don't think the game will ever get good numbers
i tried it and just got crushed, it has way too many mechanics and things going on
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>>739604624
gimme the salsa
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>>739604624
This game is not even out and it has 35,112 players right now. You can't even install it if you aren't invited
how in the flying fuck is low? Games I play have few hundreds on an average, if they have more than thousand I consider them normalfag tier already
Every time you made this thread I find it so bizarre and absurd. I cannot relate to you people. You are fucking alien beings.
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>>739604932
https://x.com/PuffPuff3D/status/2045951696082264426

enjoy
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>>739604624
It needs more maps.
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>>739604624
Maybe let people know it officially exists, open it so it's not invite only and actually release the fuckin thing?
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>>739605109
>pube version locked behind a paywall
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>>739605190
get cucked
get cuckwalled
pay up piggy
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Needs a transformative mechanic like swapping weapons or alternative ultimate abilities per character in a single match or else it's DoA
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Compslop
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>>739605190
that's not the bad part, it's kemono being dead
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>>739605109
why the fuck is she yellow, she is supposed to look sickly pale white
shitty animation
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>>739604624
fix the fucking matchmaking, it's why I quit

even a forced 50% winrate system, is better than this dogshit
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>>739605101
yeah but millions have tried it and said "no thanks"
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>low player count
>new update
>massive spike in players
>after some time after player count plummet
>but is more than the previous low
>new update
>massive spike in players
>after some time after player count plummet
>but is more than the previous low
>new update
>etc.
But niggers will claim the game is dying.
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>>739605275
i just go on f95, but it doesn't have stuff for smaller creators
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>can't play casually because ranked is the only way to play and people are sweats even at low rank
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>>739605109
based
>>739605289
the light is yellow
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>>739605275
they just moved, goon more retard
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>>739605292
>get matched with an retard on lane
>kill creeps on farming orbs
>nigga slides 1vs2 under their tower like 0 / 8 times
>most possible incel voice in mic starts crying why i don't do shit
>we lose in 18mins due literally being most braindead being ever
This was on Archon too, the game and matchmaking is an complete joke of a mess.
An other funny retard moment was, i 1vs0 enemy lane and pushed all the way to Shrine in 5 pure minutes. No idea why there 4 of them in the mid but holy fuck they were retards.
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>>739605424
shtty light setup then
fucking noob (((artist)))
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>>739605292
>>739605520
holy shit you're retarded and probably an AI jeet
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>>739604847
this is the same as getting filtered by the voices of the void tutorial
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>>739605190
>>739605215
based pubeGAWDS having disposable incomes and supporting artists.
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>>739604624
>what went wrong
valve decided to create an open beta (in all but name) for a game that was a hybrid between two distinctly dead or dying genres (hero shooter and moba).
>how would you save deadlock
quit fucking around with this """open""" """beta""" and call it what it is - a constantly evolving, live service title, except out in the open and "fully released".
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>>739605551
shut the fuck up retard
a fucking pale white character turned into yellow just because the fucker didnt set the light right
changed the whole identity
fucking noob
GRAVES is supposed to be PALE WHITE, she is a ffucking NECROMANCER, not a fucking south asian jeet
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>>739604624
>>739605109
What, didn't get enough (You)'s when you posted it in /vg/ or something?
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>>739605602
she's probably using candles you fucking heathen you think graves masturbates with full bright lights pointed at her? get some aesthetic sense
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>>739605419
When there's only ranked, it's all unranked
That's my attitude
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>>739604624
add Unranked play, it's that simples
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i think open beta this soon and for this long will hurt this game in the long run
on they day of the release, tens of thousands of new players will have their shit pushed in by beta sweaties and then quit the game
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>>739605775
Personally I actually don't think the queues need splitting anymore, really.
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>>739605553
It just has too much shit going on
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>>739605648
Nosering ruins the entire fucking design.
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Here is why Deadlock sucks so hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv_-Dq55eiA
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>>739605665
>graves masturbates with full bright lights pointed at her
Maybe she does, fucko
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>>739606197
i hate indians advertising their indian social media garbage here every fucking day
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>>739604624
>how would you save Deadlock?
I'd probably make it overwatch 3.0 and popularize it with porn
worked then i'm sure it'd work now
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>>739606317
>turning it into a shit game will attract players
The tragedy is that this is true.
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>>739605493
sauce?
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STOP BUFFING TOWERS
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>>739604624
Shit game
As simple as that
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>>739604624
Other games came out that I wanted to play more
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>>739605493
where?
.cr is dead
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>>739607401
>>739605109
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Stopped playing before the new characters got added, are they still raping movement and buffing shooting every patch?
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>>739605109
>log in to view
no thanks, bro
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>>739608316
How do you fap to caged trannies busting their balls with bbc dildos witohut a xitter account?
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Terrible balance
Game decided in the first 10/15 mins but lasts for 30
MM that feels like it has a grudge against you
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>>739608316
just make an account?
why do so many anons refuse to make accounts
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>>739608418
I just look in the mirror
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>>739605343
eh I just use that for games, most of the bigger content stuff also gets uploaded to r34/ex. also, the way they handled updates was complete shit, having to download the whole archive for 1 image and you can't even tell which image was new. don't know what it's like these days but I'd rather not use f95 unless it's something I really want (I'm not that far gone luckily)
>>739605493
made me look...... don't play like that.......
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It is honestly a get good skill base type of game. The learning bracket from being shit to decent is pretty rough.
Always clear your jungle after pushes, sneak in and out of lane to do it, power spikes and learning all the enemy abilities along with your own. Maneuver mechanics because it turns out you are a dumb slow fuck if you aren't wall bouncing and lurching off everything. Even following a build you will get your ass killed and have to rely on your team to carry.
Then there is the natural meta. If you have carries and they have no clue wtf they are doing it is practically over.
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>what went wrong?
PvP

>how would you save Deadlock?
Do what Rivals did -- turn it into a tower push or tower defence game.
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>>739604624
>how would you save Deadlock
Ivy sex.
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>>739604624
>what went wrong and how would you save Deadlock?
Valve already knows given Street Brawl coming about.
People want shorter games with less ASSFAGGOTS mechanics in their hero shooter
>how would you save Deadlock?
FOMO event coomer skins and carve off every ugly ass remaining iota of Neon Prime
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>update
look inside
>it just switches viable builds from gun to spirit on most heroes
>no new additions
>it will revert back to gun builds only in the next update
how will this ever bring back players?
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I demand more Ivy
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>>739604624
>pre-alpha doesn't retain fully released game player numbers
yea wild
>people complain pre-alpha project is worked on and things change
lol
>people actually take a pre-alpha state tech demo as a serious competitive game
haha
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>>739609261
The coomer skins of Ivy alone will fund another yacht for Gayben.
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>>739605648
>>739609261
Do you think her smooth stone cold skin feels good?
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AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>739605602
older incandescent light bulbs made yellow light
you wouldn't know that because recently they put LED everywhere and you're not 18
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>>739608418
Now im leaking, can you provide some links?
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>>739609261
Lash is so lucky
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>>739604624
SHE'S 18 YOU SICK FUCKS
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>>739608316
xcancel nigga
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>>739604624
It was already saved by Street Brawl.
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>>739604624
More Ivy porn.

Remodel Vyper into a sexy anthro snake lady with huge tits.
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>>739604624
They broke Doorman's legs.
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>>739613008
once the game is more complete and they add some sense of progression, skins etc people will flock to it
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>New update
>Sudden winning streak
>Have climbed from Arcanist IV to Emissary V in like 2 days

Did Yoshi finally fix matchmaking or something
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>>739610381
sauce?
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>>739613475
I have had Eternus players against me and brand new players on my team in half of my games
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Wait, are you telling em a hero shooter isnt popular anymore? Woah, hold the presses!!!! Maybe 1 million abilities on the screen, frantic spam casting 4 abiliteis ON TOP of normal movemaent and aiming are actually a bad thing. The heroes are also carbon copies of Overwatch and LoL or famous popculture characters. Laning is retarded. The map is boring. Jungle camps are retarded. The capture the flag minigame is retarded. The fact that you have to queue 3 heroes is retarded.
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>>739613742
>Laning is retarded
trvke
>The map is boring
trvke
>Jungle camps are retarded
trvke. this one really gets me because who the fuck queues up an action tps assfaggots to hold m1 on npcs that don't even move
>The capture the flag minigame is retarded
mega trvke
>The fact that you have to queue 3 heroes is retarded
retard
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>>739613475
I knew matchmaking whiners were literally only complaining because they lost
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>>739613862
>The fact that you have to queue 3 heroes is retarded
You have to? You can prioritize, but does that actually work? If i want to play only Haze?
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>DEIlock
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>>739604624
community is full of superfags and sadly they actually play the game and also sadly the devs are probably balancing the game for reddit discord and twitter
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>>739604624
its like overwatch but with worse porn
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>>739605190
it's on f95 but here's a catbox
https://files.catbox.moe/dro2gd.mov
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>>739613116
doorman is the worst example of
>fun to play as
>unfun to play against
i don't know how to address this without changing him into a completely different hero, but his current toolkit guarantees that only half the players in the game are actually enjoying it. if they can't figure out how to make it so doorman doesn't suck so much ass to play against then the only solution i can think of is to nerf doorman to the point where he's bad enough that people rarely try to play as him, which obviously is a shitty solution.
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>>739615409
least favorite character to have on my team as well, saves more enemies than not with cart+door combo and his ult as well
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>>739604624
post her feet
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Not enough Ivy in this thread.
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>>739617725
She's fallen off ever since the other waifus were invented
Mina, Paige, Silver all stole her thunder
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>>739604624
Its boring, uninspired, brings nothing new to an already saturated genre. The characters are all mutted colors, piss brown, and ugly. The game design looks amateurish and not fun. Seriously after playing this for only an hour, a few years ago, I already knew it had no chance.
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Need a chen type character to save deadlock
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>>739617890
You're speaking like anybody gives a shit about those characters. Ivy is the face of Deadlock.
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Well, deadtard? How do you respond without sounding mad?
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>>739617890
She? Thats a man, and best case scenario shes a disgusting pour, and dirty , flying rat with a collection of STDs and rabbies. What happened to today's youth that are so desperate, gay, and mind broken?
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>>739618043
I dunno, I like Silver...
>>739618094
Animes shouldn't talk and they especially shouldn't be mean to my gargoyle wife like that
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>>739604624
A fun game mode inbetween standard and street brawl in terms of length and casualness. Maybe a cart pusher or something.
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>>739604624
>what went wrong and how would you save Deadlock?

Zoomers don't play high skill genre and games like Dota so at one point it will maybe crawl out of the shadows of the superior moba, after Dota dies.
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>>739618168
You know if she didnt have a nose ring and had some tits maybe I could see it. Also, youre on an anime board, youre in my domain bitch
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>>739618050
In every position
Loving
Dominating
Fluids everywhere
Bed broken
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>deadlock thread
>is hijacked by the 1-3 insane ivy furries and driven off a cliff
Every time, you "people" are absolute poison on this game
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>>739608560
in the case of xitter it rejects all of the "10 minute email" throw away email services so you have to bother with making a real email account and the juice ain't worth the squeeze.
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>>739604624
>not cropped REM porn

anyways they should just undo the urn changes, I've had a Billy in every game and the team with Billy just fucking wins every Urn fight it's beyond retarded
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>>739605648
i need ivy sex
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>>739618801
Ivy is the only reason to care about Deadlock
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>>739604964
so true
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>>739618801
>it's either yuritards or furfags
>every sane person has left
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Love this game but im holding off for a bit until they change urn mechanics, shit is fucking broken rn and essentially whichever team gets first urn has a runaway advantage for the rest of the game. Ive had more matches end with the winning team up 60k souls since the change than not. I dont think I ever saw any match go that lopsided before new urn.

>>739615409

Doorman being an utter cunt to deal with is half the joy, he has no need for changes.
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>>739619079
I dont even like Ivy and I have to admit this is a trvke lol
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>>739605109
>Off model hag body
Garbage
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>>739608560
I deleted all my socials for a reason. I don't want to resign up and make a whole fucking profile and get sucked back in to it all so I can view some stupid gooner material for 5 seconds.
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>>739604624
How to save Deadlock:
•drop all moba elements
•make it a straight hero shooter
•make sure all matches don't go longer than 30 minutes
•redesign all female characters to be super model hot
I just saved valve's next flop.
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>>739604624
>what went wrong
icefrog realised he could fuse his two favourite games, Dota and GunZ, but never asked if he should
>how would you save Deadlock?
make PVE anything more than an obligate time-and-HP sink
completely remake the map to heavily impede the air game and streamline routing
remove all forced macro timings e.g. barriers and regen and HP values changing massively at specific times
eliminate most % scaling, multiplicative mechanic interactions, and all conditional synergies
multiply the HP and damage values of creeps and towers by 3-5x
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>hit phantom 1
>lose 2 games back to oracle 6
The grind continues
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>>739604624
it's a puppygirl transcoded game and they have no idea what the fuck to do with the balance considering the urn change
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>>739619253
>make it a straight hero shooter
>want another gay overwatch rival clone with low skill spectator characters
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icefrog is a hack who can't design games wholecloth
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>>739619215
>18 year old bodies are hag bodies

never change /v/
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valvesisters…
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>>739604624
Deadlock would unironically benefit from mechanics that a lot of vocal people swear they hate, the game as it is right now is too hard/convoluted to play and enjoy enough to really get into.

First of all, the bullets need to be way bigger, and you could throw in some magnetism as well, this game is not a competitive shooter and making the bullets be tiny and not home in, not even a little is basically forcing you to play with a mouse, which makes the compatibility with controller literally useless.

Many of the abilities should have shorter cool downs and bigger damage, if you can't hit anyhing with your bullets you might as well be able to use AoE skills more often.

They should tone down all the menus and descriptions, the screen is a mess with undecipherable walls of information that even if you manage to understand it's all hardly relevant to the game.
Cue battleborn+ semen meter meme.

You need to be able to repeat characters in your squad, having to choose 3 different characters in case someone is already chosen, just to end up with someone else that you've never played with is idiotic.

A lot of abilities are completely unreadable at first glance, you either don't know what's killing you, what are you doing, or how to fight against something happening, you shouldn't have to stop and read a paragraph to understand what's going on half the time, this is just bad design.

The matches ARE TOO FUCKING LONG OR SHORT, it's been a hot minute since I played (haven't tried the update yet) but something I remember is matches taking up to fucking 40-50 minutes or even more, this shit is ridiculous, I remember there is another game mode that is faster but that one can also be either too long or too short. make maps smaller too.

Nothing about this game is exactly fun and obviously some people like the depth and the effort but it's just not fun to play or easy to get into.

Also a lot of characters are ugly as fuck and obviously pandering to diversity quotas.
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remove all moba elements or remove headshots, you can't double dip on bad game design
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>>739617891
>outdated opinion from before the game even had a bespoke character shader
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>>739604624
>Game is in closed beta
>Recently they changed mechanics in-game and you always play ranked so I guess ELO fags don't want their ELO lowered
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>>739622643
>First of all, the bullets need to be way bigger, and you could throw in some magnetism as well, this game is not a competitive shooter and making the bullets be tiny and not home in, not even a little is basically forcing you to play with a mouse, which makes the compatibility with controller literally useless.
i didn't even consider this but you're right
the game needs Destiny 2 bullet magnetism because it's good design
>You need to be able to repeat characters in your squad
nah

t. >>739619468
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>>739615290
Really, F95 shares NSFW animations now too?
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>>739604624
I've never seen a game that's literally closed alpha get this much obsession about player numbers,
you people are mentally ill to care so much about a game that isn't even out yet
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>>739617890
Hmm, sounds like I need to draw more of her.
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>>739623048
For a while, yeah. It's gotten more active recently since kemono died again.
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>>739623393
it's all because it's valve
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Number one: in 2024 Ivy smut represented 80% of Deadlock's r34. Now it is 40.
Number two: in 2025 the new characters were all good additions. In the new batch only 2 are.
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>>739623393
Its because people wanted a non-MOBA multiplayer vidya, and its just more MOBA shit (with appealing characters + setting)
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>>739605109
Western porn and western "erotic" voice acting is so fucking disgusting. Not an gram of femininity. It's all strong women and feminism. It's basically gay porn.
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>>739624734
dead opposite, the game has been retaining players because there's a growing power vacuum in the MOBA space
casuals might disagree, but they would have gotten bored of an overwatch clone if it had the same update schedule
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Whats so bad about assfaggots?
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>>739604658
they didn't they made it worse
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>>739625167
Too time consuming, that's pretty much it.
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>>739623393
>you people are mentally ill
Holy shit good job figuring that one out after so long anon
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I've yet to find anyone who plays MOBAs who actually enjoys them, they're some of the most miserable and angry people on the entire planet.
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>>739625167
time consuming drivel that rewards autistic perfection and not actual ability.
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>>739625167
team genre that's mostly played by mentally ill solo queuers and if one person on your side isn't putting in his 20 hours of mandatory practice a week he'll be actively making the enemy stronger
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>>739625074
>casuals might disagree,
Yes, because Valve used to make multiplayer games that appealed broadly to casual players, see TF2 and LFD, there is a large contingent of Valve fans who want a proper casual low stakes multiplayer game to play from Valve.
>the game has been retaining players because there's a growing power vacuum in the MOBA space
Don't you fuckers have SMITE 2, DOTA 2, and Lol still? Seems like the space has plenty of heavy hitters.
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>>739605573
Rivals is doing a lot better in comparison. It's just the janky hybrid stuff that'll keep this niche. That's fine assuming it's Valve's goal, but I doubt it
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>>739625074
This. Deadlock is successful precisly because its a fresh take on the dotalike formula.
Deadlock's playerbase is people that are tired of LOL, dota and overcuck (which is already an half-assed tf2 and dota hybrid). Making Deadlock not be a tf2/dota hybrid is the fastest way to fucking kill the game. If you make DL into overwatch all the dota ruskies will go back to dota and all the overcuck trannies will go back to overcuck.
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>>739625621
>overwatch
>even the slightest bit like dota
kek
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>>739625525
Smite 2 has less than 8% of Deadlock's players on a good day, and it's been open access for a year. Dota and League are old and are getting zero new players, slowly dropping off for the past 5 years.
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>>739604624
isn't this game still technically in a closed beta?
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>>739605505
They did this with dota. They set up players with a lot of hours with new people. The only way to avoid this is to get reported so they thought you would flame new players.
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>>739618094
Is the joke that there's a ton of gay Shimakaze porn?
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>>739620565
I want a STRAIGHT overwatch clone with better class design and hot girls. Rivals comes close, but has shit class design. Assfaggots is a dying genre and Valve needs to walk away from it.
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>>739625752
Yes anon. I know you are too young to remember but back in 2016 everyone said this was a gay shitty hybrid of assfaggots and tf2. Yes, everyone agrees its dogshit, doesnt change the fact that that was the obvious intent.
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>>739625934
>Assfaggots is a dying genre and Valve needs to walk away from it.
>still ass mad about not getting into Dota years later

LMAO you missed out on the best e-sport game ever created.
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>>739625934
>I want a STRAIGHT overwatch clone with better class design
tf2
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>>739626014
Sounds like you're an eternally asshurt tf2 loyalist fighting 10 years after the war ended.
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>>739626014
>hero shooter with tf2's payload and control game modes is drawing from mobas
lol
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>>739625934
>Assfaggots is a dying genre and Valve needs to walk away from it.
>the game who's sitting at 600k player each day is actually dying because they don't do massive shilling like Blizzard does
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>>739626302
Bot infested fossil with a gay tranny fandom
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>>739626317
What the fuck are you talking about.
You eating blizzshit is entirely a you problem.
>>739626393
"Hero Shooter" quite fucking literally means tf2/dota hybrid.
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>>739626317
>>739626393
>>739626461
>>739626510
Samefag.
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>>739626545
how is it an anything-dota hybrid if it's not using the defining mechanics or features of mobas? it's literally just tf2 with abilities
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>>739626689
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deadlock is a competitively dead game because it's just a hero shooter with items, LARPing as a MOBA.
There's a lot of casual money in that, but I hope Valve don't think it will be the next Dota 2 x Overwatch
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>>739626545
I haven't even played overwatch properly but pretending that everyone hated it is just admitting that you live in an echo chamber. I'm sure at this point that more people have played overwatch than even know TF2 is a game.
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Remove vents and wall boosting
Let's see how you play when you can't no clip across the map in 5 seconds
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>>739626015
Assfaggots is pure trash for low iq third-worlders.
>>739626302
I liked tf2, but it lacks hot girls and is also infested by furniggers.
>>739626461
It's in the decline phase right now. It's slowly trickling down in players as the slanted bugmen that play it get bored.
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>>739626796
>it's literally just tf2 with dota features
That just so happen to be 3 basic and 1 ultimate and just so happens to have low number of player per match ala dota and just so happens that you cant have repeating heroes.
>>739626964
> I'm sure at this point that more people have played overwatch than even know TF2 is a game.
You should just walk away you are so pathetic its sad.
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>>739626924
>it's just tf2 larping and dota larping as dota
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>>739627042
yeah that's called a hero shooter
where do you think dota got its hero abilities from?
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>>739627153
there's nothing DOTA about it, which is the problem. The people designing it clearly want the game to just be a zany teamfight brawler
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>>739627357
See >>739627042
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>>739604624
Tf2 won
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>how do we save Deadlock?
fire hopoo to start
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>>739627429
>dota invented heroes, abilities, and 5v5
anon...
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>>739627442
Hotpoo is making a PvE mode.
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>>739605553
There's like 4 or 5 different techs you can do at any moment and I'm just not as cracked as these kids anymore. I can barely tell what's going on onscreen and by the time someone ran up to me I had no idea if they were shooting, zooming, punching, using abilities. These days learning a moba feels like such a waste of time. I may be getting too old, but my heart just isn't in it either. As much as I love games, this one makes me feel like I could be doing ANYTHING more productive with my time. Such as another game
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>>739627371
you might not know this junior, but before dota had million dollar tournaments it was a zany teamfight brawler version of wc3 for almost a decade
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>>739604624
Gimme the final model and designs for Vyper and other characters already
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>>739627484
You are know perfectly well what is obvious you stupid dishonest faggot.
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>>739628126
>retard who thinks abilities are the defining feature of dota can't even string together a sentence
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>>739627023
>Assfaggots is pure trash for low iq third-worlders.
You got filtered.
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>>739628126
Considering everything in it was retrofitted from a cancelled MMO project and it brings tank, healer and DPS into the framework of TF2, I think its more likely the MMO company used MMOs as their primary inspiration.
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blizzcucks are still assmad about dota decades later. Lmao play overtrash.
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>>739628331
You are premiumly fucking deluded.
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>>739604624
>what went wrong and how would you save Deadlock?
Assfaggots game. After Dota and LoL I'm never touching anything that even remotely resembles them.
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>>739604624
At least the porn pages have skyrocketed.
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>>739628490
>he doesn't know about Project Titan
you still haven't explained where you think dota got heroes and hero abilities from btw :)
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>>739604624
>a 40 plus min per match pve game
no
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>>739604624
>concord sony editon
/v/ reaction :(
>concordd valve edition
/v/ reaction :)

this place is full of double standards
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>>739626015
>You can never go back to 2014 dota
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The world really does not benefit from yet another Skinners Box with MMR matchmaking, a thousand mechanics and the unfun experience of all games being determined by who only grasps 999 of them. Valve is just trying to cannibalize the only audience marketingfags insist exists. The result is a cap of like 30k unemployed anime avatar fags setting the baseline of skill ever higher, constantly, and killing all growth.
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>>739629090
calling games you personally don't like concord does not make them concord
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>>739604624
I go to steam but I can't download it. That's why this game is dying
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>>739627652
you should check into a retirement home instead of worrying about videogames
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>>739605321
Dipshits need infinite growth even though that makes 0 sense.
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>>739629118
The OG arc was pure kino though that was 4 years later
>meme player who never won a LAN and frog who quit pro play because he sucked balls make a team
>top 10 anime betrayal before TI
>proceed to win two years in a row as the first team ever
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>>739628887
You are such a fucking subhuman holy shit whatever the fuck the previous project was it was shit canned to ape off the popularity of dota and lol (with lol aping off dota). I know you think its some magical gatcha that dota is a mod for warcraft yet you will utterly ignore that overcuck's structure is not based on wc3 but on lol/dota and tf2 hybrid mechanics. Two things that blizzards didnt create.
"Hero Shooter" is a Class Shooter (tf2) with dotalike mechanics (tighter teams and hero abilities).
You are such a dishonest faggot it would be like me trying to claim that Deadlock totally isnt trying to ape off Overcuck just because they have tf2 and dota when its obvious that Deadlock is like Overwatch with a heavier focus on the dota elements already present in Overwatch.
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>>739629090
>game bad edition
:(
>game good edition
:)
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>>739629842
>I know you think its some magical gatcha that dota is a mod for warcraft yet you will utterly ignore that overcuck's structure is not based on wc3 but on lol/dota and tf2 hybrid mechanics. Two things that blizzards didnt create.
it's really funny that you get this close to identifying which parts of dota and overwatch are shared with warcraft, and then simply choose not to realise it
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is there anything you can miss by not playing now
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>game is convoluted
>keep it in alpha
>people who have been playing shit non finished game will have a leg up on newer players when its released
what happened to just releasing games
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>>739630095
>it's really funny that you get this close to identifying which parts of dota and overwatch are shared with warcraft, and then simply choose not to realise it
yet you will utterly ignore that overcuck's structure is not based on wc3 but on lol/dota and tf2 hybrid mechanics
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>>739630382
Ah, a coward
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>>739625270
>>739625460
>>739625502
I see. So the problem at its core is that you are dependant on your teammates.
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>>739630284
well, the game's still rapidly changing, anyone who hasn't played in 2024 will never experience the 4-lane map, some items were straight up deleted, some hero abilities were reworked into completely different ones (Calico for example used to have invisible laser turrets she could stick to walls)
if you feel the fomo from reading this, then maybe you should work on getting a key right now
I personally, while like the direction the game is heading nad the general idea, will wait for a more polished release version
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>>739630284
there were two stickers on the wall of the main menu you got for participating in the last 2 major updates
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>>739615290
based
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>nerf cancer doorman
>but hyper buff graves
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>>739630389
>structure
tf2 game modes
>mechanics
wc3 and tf2
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Why does every hero have a variation of a pea shooter the equivalent of the pistol from tf2?
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>>739630998
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>>739631065
i accept your concession
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>>739605109
>pregnant
where
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>>739631012
because the guns are analogous to auto-attacks in dota and you need to choose between improving your gun, abilities, or survivability as the game goes on
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>>739605648
prone
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>>739626015
>>739629118
I've noticed that about 90% of pro-Dota posts are nostalgia, esports or both, usually posted by people who haven't played the game in about 7 years
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>>739615409
That applies to more than half the cast at this point. Playing against Graves, Victor, Apollo, Mina, Celeste, Mirage, Wraith, Haze, Drifter, Calico, Rem, the list goes on, they just aren't fun to fight because of the way they are designed.

This is the problem with every ASSFAGGOTS. You can't make the game good by going 'durr hurr lets make everyone OP' because the devs are retarded and only make like 5-10 characters disgustingly OP and everyone else is mediocre to okay.
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>>739604624
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>>739624728
Venator and who else are part of the good ones in the new batch? Cause the last 12 heroes added have all been ultra cancer besides Venator.
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>>739630382
Dota 2 had a invite beta aswell god fucking newfags like this board is so retarded.
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>>739631694
None hates dota more than dotafags.
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>>739605109
>>739615290
Why is Apollo's dick not red?
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>>739631891
dota 2 was just dota 1 in a new engine kupo
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>>739615290
>apollo and graves fuck
>they both act above it and refuse to acknowledge they enjoyed it
>they convince themselves its strictly sex for their own carnal animalistic needs, strictly business no affection
>they tell themselves this is the last time
>they keep doing it
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>>739629342
>>739629950
the only diffrence between concord and deadlock is that deadlock features more tranny charactes you delusional daddygabe faggot
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>>739632664
No it doesn't. There is only arguably Pocket. 1 at most. And another important difference is that Deadlock is actually fun to play. This also differentiates it from every other MOBA.
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>>739605419
i just have confirmation bias and retarded teammates, i got ranked too high and was constantly stomped until i got into ritualist where i find people who act like it's their first time playing an FPS
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>>739604624
They should add a little girl character to the game. It will boost the games popularity.
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>>739631891
dota 2 invite beta a) happened AFTER The International AKA they were already content with showing the game to the public and b) was significantly shorter compared to current Deadlock test
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>>739631863
Venator and Rem
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>>739615409
Valve also created DOTA 2 and this applies to half the cast of that game as well so dont get your hopes up.
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>>739605109
>apollo

I sleep, wake me up when shes getting BIG BLUE COCK
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>>739632104
she looks like she fucks human men (me)
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Valve is gonna be retarded again and waste the opportunity of giving it more animated content, like they did with TF2.
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>>739630865
I like how her biggest buff was making one of her abilities actually function instead of being completely useless.
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>about as many players as rivals
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>>739615409
I personally enjoy playing against Doorman. Having someone on the enemy team trying to catch you out and do plays using portals adds a lot to the game.

If he's fucking you up your positioning/game sense is ass or you've never played Portal.
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someone in my friends list randomly sent me an invite, should I do it? feels intimidating to play and I don't want to watch a bunch of guides
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>>739638604
Just do the tutorial and then play some bot matches. If you've played a MOBA before it's not too complicated. If you haven't then do watch some guides.
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>>739638604
the street brawl mode isn't as hard to get into and it'll slowly teach you what items and characters do
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deadlock has some truly terrible character design for valve standards
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>>739638604
just like in any moba, people sperg out at any mistakes in every single skill bracket
just tough it out, or play with bots (they are currently very stupid and easy), or play the designated ARAM mode (very fun especially if you're not super into mobas)
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...so why dont they release the game
Is this the longest closed beta in history
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>>739638760
>>739638935
>ARAM mode
sounds fun, I'll check it out
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>>739604624
>how would you save Deadlock
actually release it out of closed alpha
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>>739638935
>just like in any moba, people sperg out at any mistakes in every single skill bracket

Having played most mobas i actually find deadlock to be the least spergy. Most people will just call you a nigger or whatever their racial slur du jour is and move on.
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>>739638941
It’s still blatantly unfinished. There are places straight up missing textures, like a fifth of the cast needs new models, half the voicelines are missing, and a lot more.
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>>739604624
The new urn system is pretty unfun right now. It's slightly better now that the drop-off point is back in the side lanes again but the retarded boxing match that happens once the urn is deposited is a clown show and makes some hero comps way better at capturing and defending the point.
I'm sure it'll be fine once they go through a few iterations but right now it's a mess.
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>>739640990
>people decades ago can make full legendary games that are pushed in the hall of fame of perfection
>meanwhile valvedevs cant even add a few textures, voicelines and models after 2 years

DEFEND THIS
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>>739640990
>>739641115
It's a matter of resource allocations, you only have so many designers, modellers, riggers and animators, do you put them to work on new characters or on existing characters that are ugly but see play? I don't think they'll care a lot about the visuals of the older characters until the game is about to release, particularly the ones that are due for a full visual rework, we're probably seeing another set of 6 new characters before they fix the characters that need the most work, like yamato, grey talon, warden.
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>>739604624
New Urn even with new location being KOTH type shit that you need to HEAVY punch is a mistake. If you want KOTH just make an actual KOTH.
More over Urn is buggy as fuck right now.
And than we have shit like Graves and McGinnis that just dominate this type of standing in one place. At least Seven isn't as aids with urn under the bridge.
But honestly, this isn't an actual content. People will come back if there is huge rework in heroes or new heroes.
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>>739642623
for most of the playerbase, new urn is actual content, as pretty much everyone below ascendant ignored the urn entirely, which you can tell by them complaining about forced team fights o algo
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Did they fix the Doorman not being able to close his doors when he wants without an 8 second cooldown? That's such a gay and lame change that just kills skill expression, and if they were doing it to stop kidnapping, why not just make it to where you couldn't put doors at spawn? You can still place a door at the top of the buildings to send people into walkers so all it did was make him feel clunky and encouraged even less people to buy cheat death
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>>739615409
I don't mind playing against doorman, I do wish his ult was a bit different though
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>>739615409
He's just the Deadlock version of Spy imo, nobody likes dealing with them but if you're the one making the sick frag video you feel like a fucking god
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Fucking Jeet Mods.
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I just don't really want to relearn characters when they keep changing them so majorly.
Which I know is ultimately the point of it being an alpha or beta or what have you.
But yeah, nah. Games too sweaty for that shit.
I'll check back in after a long wait though.
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This garbage can't die soon enough.
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>>739643468
go and get raped by your uncle faggot
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>>739644389
what did he mean by this
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>>739635339
agreed
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>deadlock videos a month back
>"deadlock is crack!!! Next big thing"
>deadlock videos today
>"It's over..."
Was the urn change really that bad?
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>>739643816
his ult is fine once you have Counterspell
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>>739605101
>You are fucking alien beings.
Says the anon posting avatar.
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>>739644559
>there are "people" on 4chan that watch so many low quality bait videos that its the only thing the algorithm shows them anymore
grim
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>>739644595
If you are simply disregarding his ult with spoiler, than you are just actively feeding into ult refresh cooldown
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>play deadlock and get hosed down by haze
>play deadlock and get hosed down by vyper
>play deadlock and kill victor but "lol lmao it doesn't count XD" like 10 times
>decide that this shit is not worth it and pick seven
>proceed to get most damage by pressing 1 for undodgable balls the size of a walker, 2 for an undodgable stun and 4 to kill everyone onscreen
I've been playing wrong all along, why bother with dogshit heroes when you can pick DPS man and just have fun?
>>739644559
The urn crashing the servers doesn't help lmao, every other match both teams suddenly lag for a good 2 minutes on and off when we fight around urn
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>>739644559
youtube has degenerated into the worst form of clickbait imaginable and should never be taken seriously ever again
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>>739605671
Yep, people need to realize this. Ranked is a meaningless term if you're not worried about it

It's what killed Fortnite Ballistic, their CS Valorant mode
It was loads of fun, but it was "ranked" only. And everyone I talked to was like "ranked is scary I just want to relax" so people skipped out on it
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>>739644595
>letting him get again in 10 seconds
You're trolling yourself and your team, just buy stamina master or warp stone, both make it retard proof especially warp stone
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>>739644428
>o algo
that you are a raped faggot that doesn't even play this game
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>>739641909
>It's a matter of resource allocations
that's not why, the real reason is that Valve employees are given too much freedom and the majority take easy gigs like making patches for steam. Only a few of the employees will actually work on patches for games like Team Fortress 2, Portal 2, to even Deadlock because nobody wants to do the hardwork. This is why most Steam Employees are seen online but not playing anything as they simply are too lazy
https://steamdb.info/badge/11/
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>>739605101
Talking about what you consider good play numbers for an invite-only game is pointless when you can outright see the game is losing players that it once had. The question is whether you want to be the lost person to have realised this game is having problems or not.
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>>739645071
Im higher rank than you btw
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It's a Valve game that's being actively playtested, aggressive iteration is going to happen
In case people forgot, Deadlock before it's first major update was largely seen as a failed experiment with no future. The outlook has shifted massively since then with updates but there are still issues, and those issues are being iterated on. The game isn't going to fucking die because of a bad iteration when it's not even released, that's the point of playtesting.
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Something I've noticed about this game is that it continually still living despite how /v/ believes it should be dead and/or drastically changed seems to make people very upset.
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>>739645805
that attitude lumps you in with the kotor mmo
just have fun bruh
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>>739635471
...yoshi...
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>>739645962
It's not an attitude so much as an observation
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>>739605419
>can't play casually
Street Brawl exists
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>>739646067
whatever you want to call it, I'm just saying that it applies to a lot of games, even bad ones.
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>>739619226
>>739618809
you don't have to make an account, don't listen to this retard. Just type "xcancel" in the twitter link instead of just "x" and you can view the post without an account.
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I love Silver.
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>>739646324
Faggot
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>>739646324
based
She's fantastic, the only deadlock girl better than her is Ivy
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Im just waiting for this shit to come out so Valve can work on TF3
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>>739627486
ror2 was 3 untextured maps and a dozen untextured npcs walking aimlessly for basically it's entire lifespan before being sold off

trusting that amateur faggot with anything 3D is a mistake they're a meme dev
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>>739609261
That's a guy
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>>739604624
It's stressful to play. There is too much going on, too many chores, too much sweat.

I think the number 1 problem is that its really gross watching someone sweat in this game, and you can tell when they are sweating. It's just cringe.

Yeah, cringe buildup. You watch what enemies are doing and its cringe, its not really gameplay just 'are they being cringe or not'.
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>>739647108
good thing valve has guys who can model and texture things
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>>739647243
It's a rock (female)
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>>739615409
That's just the entire philosophy of the character
The whole point of him is to be as annoying as physically possible and that's why people like playing him
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>>739631012
I really want more slow firing high damage guns. Feels like the only two that aren't really bullet hoses are Doorman and Holiday. I'm still mad Gray Talon isn't a slow firing high damage arrow you gave to nock between shots. I get that's his 1 ability but still. Feel like tf2 nailed the idea of single shot high damage weapons being more fun to play with and against
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>>739647005
I love tf2, have over 6k hours in it and was just playing it last night: what the fuck could you even do to improve the formula enough to warrant tf3? I don't see how a change could benefit it much unlike CS making the big jump to CS2 and the like
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>>739648556
transition to modifiable battlefield ala fortnite. not calling for a 1:1 fortnite TF3, but it's obviously appealing to a large generation of players
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>>739631065
>no argument
kek you lost
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even if animal women were real, they still wouldn't date you
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>>739648298
Try Silver if you haven't already, I think her gun is like the second slowest in the game or something
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>>739649767
Some of them are probably desperate enough
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>>739650147
honestly if Vyper cheated on me that'd be pretty hot
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>>739650147
That bitch is like the reverse case
Even if animal women were real, nobody would date it
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>>739605101
deadlock fans be like erm you see the skill level is so complex that a mere 30,000 is not nearly enough because im better than all of them and theyre also all better than me so i can never have a perfectly exactly evenly-skilled lobby with such pithy population
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>>739627652
MOBAs still remain to be friendslop games. Don't ever go into one solo because trying to be big dick on a fantasy ladder isn't worth it especially when all official ranked ladders blow dicks. You realize that the top level has its own absurd skill disparity and that you really need third party matchmaking to compete with the top and truly be considered skilled. Which is hours you don't want to waste in something you'll never make money off of, and isn't even fun at some point. Cause at that point you'll be dealing with truly insufferable max powerlevel basement dwelling autists that have such a dog shit personality, that even if you were a player that always blamed yourself, you'd finally crack and start whipping the retards you play with at that level that start having mental breakdowns at the slightest inconvenience.
t. GE CS/GM OW/Challenjour League
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>>739650470
that's trve and it's actually 60k now because it's not in the middle of the day anymore and its still not enough
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>get to lane and try to get soul last hits
>get hit with 2 spells and im down to 50%
>either sit behind cover like a bitch or ride the metro back to base
>rinse repeat
i played for 10ish hours and i just didnt get it, you get raped so much harder than you do in dota/league by people jumping off a rooftop behind you
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>>739604624
Die shitlock
DIE
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STOP PICKING GRAVES

SHE'S MY CHARACTER NOT YOURS
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>>739646324
I like her design but her personality is boring as a bag of bricks and her VA line reads sound like she's half asleep
also don't know why people mostly draw her so roided when she's slim in game which contrast the wolf form, maybe some lore bullshit I missed
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>>739651136
You can buy an extra regen after the first wave and just coast in lane forever as long as you don't play like a monkey
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>>739651504
It won't even give me her when she's my only priority character and nobody else in the match is playing her, they did something else to matchmaking
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>Graves gets nerfed like 10 times in a row and Graves players won't stop bitching about it
>Gets buffed once and immediately breaks the game in half
Well well well
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>>739604624
lmao be happy its around tf2 level it wont hit dota 2 or cs2 level of players

the problem with deadlock is the game is just in a worst state then it was with 4 lanes but niggas wont listen to me when i say that shit
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>>739651973
Solo lane were absolute cancer
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when are they adding a clown character
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>>739652063
solo lane was needed for the flow of the game
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>>739604847
This but I really enjoy the street brawl mode. It's a lot of fun. Same reason I enjoy ARAM over actual league. One is a quick mode to play with friends, the other is a fucking chore to learn.
Once you get going, I'm sure it's probably fun but even after playing dozens of hours of street brawl and getting pretty decent at it, I still have no fucking clue what's going on in the normal mode and last hitting and then shooting stupid soul orb things is bullshit, and the game seems too imbalanced right now to get heavily invested in learning.
but yeah, give street brawl a go, it's pretty fun and games are generally <15m so even if you get trash items and the enemy gets enhanced legendaries it's over pretty quick.
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>>739605602
>SONIC'S ARMS ARE NOT BLUEEEEE!!!
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>>739652484
>WHEN WILL YOU LEARN!
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>>739605109
At least the porn is decent
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best deadlock gal?
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>>739653498
For me? It's Geist
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>>739604624
Make it not a hero shooter.
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Just play overwatch
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>>739646067
where is her dick? what the fuck?
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It looks cool but I'm not gonna spend 500 hours learning a new MOBA every time something looks cool.
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I think the game needs something to grind for. I feel like I'm wasting my time playing this
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>>739604624
The game sucks because it has all of the problems of an adhd fps and a moba, except they somehow multiply with each other in the worst way possible.
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>ivyfags will literally look at this and go "SEXOOOO!"
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>>739654189
You're supposed to play games for fun, anon
If you're not having fun it's time to switch games
If you're playing games to grind rather than to have fun you're quite literally doing it wrong
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>>739654904
awoooooga
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I only care about the futa horse
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>>739604624
go all in on street brawl and keep improving that mode instead
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>>739604624
Isn't this shit still not even like publicly available yet? It's doing quite well for not even being out yet.
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>>739655678
responding to bait but the game hasn't had a major content patch since January.
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>>739655724
>bait
It's not bait, I legitimately do not keep track of this game beyond hearing about it sometimes.
>January
On a Valve timescale, that doesn't seem too bad.
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>>739624728
That's terror.
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they need to release more cute and sexy underage characters like Graves and Apollo!!!
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>>739605419
sexo witht the city girls and the nichijkou girls
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>>739637137
what
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so, is yoshi icefrog or not
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>>739644987
ellen joe in deadlock when
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>>739656324
yeah he fucked up and posted the announcement for the big six hero patch using the icefrog account
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>>739613116
They really are brothers
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>>739656145
Why do you want to have sex with washboards?
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>>739605419
>>can't play casually because
you yourself are one of these sweats and can't stand losing
if you were truly a ""casual"" player you would play at your own pace regardless
these "sweats at low rank" are people just playing the game how it's supposed to be played because they enjoy it
You aren't suited for this type of game and you never will be. You're sweating about it before even opening the game.
YOU are the nigger in this situation and you should just uninstall.
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>>739656324
yosh is icefrog. anyone who says hes not is RETARDED.
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>>739656324
>>739657514
yoshi is a HACK
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>>739624728
>in 2025 the new characters were all good additions
Calico is boring as hell
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>>739604624
Woke game
Shit gameplay
Sweet baby inc
Worse characters than battleborn
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>>739651504
too bad faggot, Im picking her now and abusing her so she gets nerfed, shes a free use slut for old men(me)
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I think the problem is that people are just fucking burnt out with MOBAS, it's why marvel rivals has the advantage, it's a very simple brawler type game that anyone can just jump into.
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>>739615290
How does catbox make money? This file hosting must cost them quite a lot
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>Win match
>Ok I'll play another
>Get stomped for two matches
>Like, my teammate goes 4-21 kind of stomp. I am lucky if I end the match with even K/D ratio
I fucking hate this game. Time to play.
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>>739659506
ehhh, they're not too far apart in player numbers on PC and rivals is getting content updates a lot more frequently, not to mention it's fully released
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>>739659301
>so she gets nerfed
GOOD

Then you faggots will FUCK OFF
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Its multiplayer slop, why try to save what was damned from birth?
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>>739605109
Why is it that no one else can animate on the level of Nyl?
I just want very well animated 3D porn without the massive futa cocks.
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>>739659863
not before shes been permanently ruined by (me)
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>>739659945
This. The only thing that can save Deadlock is if they add that rumored singleplayer mode
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Never played a Moba is like tf2 or is it retarded?
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>>739662804
It's retarded
Play street brawl if you're going to try Deadlock
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>>739604624
No strategic depth, game caters to brain dead m1 carries and ensured 0% miss rate hard CC. What happens in a match is not determined by your decisions but by the time stamp, and whoever the developers arbitrarily decided should scale at that point. It's a slot machine with a very elaborate interface.

The parkour's cool, at a design standpoint the game is objectively shit.
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>>739663183
you know this just sounds like cope right
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>AI coded game
>Sweet baby inc
yikes
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Again, there is a very real chance this game never fully releases and you all meed to be ready for that.
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>>739663640
Ive already played 1500 hours of it, even if it never comes out it will remain among my favorite online games of all time
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>>739663739
I can understand that, but you should still be ready for the possible shitshow that will ensue if it becomes clear valve has lost interest in it.
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can we all agree that deadcock is an extremely pozzed game?
not only half the playerbase are zoomers that have eaten up faggotry propaganda since they were born, there is also devs inside valve pushing cultist shit from inside
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>>739604624
MANY games would still kill for 30k+ active players, you should know better after all these Concordlikes of recency. The fact the game just looks like webm related and has a barrier of entry if anything shows how many are willing to give it a chance.
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>>739665182
>he doesn't know
Anon it was going to be way, way, way worse.
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what did they buff for graves?
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>>739605493
This is the millionth time already and they servers get worse every time.
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Now that Rem can do upwards of 2k+ healing per minute in any given match, I think it's safe to say that Ivy NEEDS and also DESERVES buffs
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>>739618094
I keke'd
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>>739665182
>posted it again
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>>739665347
MANY games don't have Valve rabid fanbase and a storefront dedicated to it though. 30k players is laughably bad with those factors in mind.
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>>739666082
>game in invite only beta
>clearly unfinished
>why number no higher?
steamcharts fags are unbelievably retarded
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>>739665898
yes yes we all know the game is pozzed
daily reminders are always good
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>>739665759
she needs hugs and deserves handholding sex.
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>>739657081
Graves is a washboard too
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>>739662804
it plays like tf2 MvM but your team is split into three lanes trying to get your dick into the enemy base and on the other side there is also another team trying to put their dick into your base
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impregnating Celeste, Silver, Mia and Paige.
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>>739629842
Made for LASH
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>>739638924
what bothers me the most is that compared to the dota 2 characters they have next to no memorable voice lines
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>>739604624
>How would you save
Let it die. We don't need more MOBAshit. I'm sick of farming mindless unchallenging NPCs and doing stupid chores around the map for 30 minutes just to have 5 minutes of actual combat against humans
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>>739662804
It's retarded. If you like TF2, you will be bored to death
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>>739656380
ellen joe in my bed when
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>>739615409
>fun to play as
>unfun to play against

considering that he's literally the Devil who's fucking around with people, it's 100% in character
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>>739604624
I wouldn't
It's time for the industry to learn that nobody wants hero shooters anymore
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>>739665759
This creature owes me pp touch
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>>739604624
>how would you save Deadlock?
perma ban datto
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>>739604624

It just needs another content patch. More heroes and remodels to jungle creeps and midboss.
Only thing that I feel it lacks mechanically is another map objective besides urn, midboss and walkers.
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>>739672665
>It just needs another content patch.
its easy to forget the game got leaked and they decided to just let people play it while they were developing it huh
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>>739605109
Cat box please, Twitter won't let me view anything without me showing my id

I hate the new Internet....
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>>739663306
Yeah yeah "haze and dynamo take the most skill", "the new urn is actually really good", we've heard it all before.
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>>739665347
People say this then they call Marathon a flop for launching with 87k active players and an up front price.
It is kind of a flop but that's purely due to AAA embezzlement tier budgets
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>>739604624
It hasn't, it will still most likely hit 80k this weekend. Before the New Gods patch it was hovering around 20k. I'm surprised it is holding up like this.
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>>739646067
>3pm beer
>Is a monster energy
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>>739639886
I think this is mostly because while they control their character they can't really pay close attention to your mistakes (unless you whiff something big or badly out of position).

>>739641909
I still remember some of the old ugly/lowpoly Dota 2 models that were in the game for years.
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>>739673242
Marathon launched only 2 months ago and is down 10k now, fren. It's why it's a flop.
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>>739638935
>>739638604
Being bad at this game seems to be the sweet spot, desu.

Eternus is your own teammate getting tilted and trying to call their lane partner out in all chat, because they bought one item off THE META cookie cutter build on a dude. Cue multiple complaints by everyone throughout the game negging on each other, that just makes players seem like abrasive grognards who hate playing the game.

People in the lower and casual ranks seem to be more chill, and goofier stuff happens. Which makes it more fun.
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>>739604624
no real tank role like rivals or overwatch has

bunch of retards making this game is also the reason they hide damage taken
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>>739673685
Yeah, it was a flop either way (because again, Sony budgets), but people were calling it a flop at launch day. I'm bitter because if 80k active at launch for a paid game isn't considered good, then no wonder the industry is so creatively bankrupt in response.
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>>739674045
>the holy trinity is tank, support, dps
>it just is bro
Deadlock's dev team is retarded, but I don't think this is valid criticism. Also there are tanks, it's just not common across the roster and they function closer to offtanks in other games.
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>>739624924
>Western voice actor
>It's always a man putting on a female voice, or a russian woman who sounds like a man
Send help.
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>>739604624
A proper full release.
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>>739673708
>People in the lower and casual ranks seem to be more chill, and goofier stuff happens. Which makes it more fun.
Just how low are you talking about?
In Archon you can be winning lane, then your teammate literally runs into the enemy guardian like twice, dies, flames you, then disconnects.

People in those ranks tweak out if you buy bullet velocity on Pagie, a t1 item. They're wannabe Metro's but not even good enough to be the clown.
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>>739673708
rank means nothing. I am at Archon 4 and I see no difference between alchemist and archons. You've got the exact same feeding tards that you have to wrangle with a rescue beam like a dog, except the dog is russian and barking uncomprehensible knowledge at you.
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>>739644986
>youtube is FINISHED (it's over this time)
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>>739674349
I'd say there's a big difference between Alchemist/Arcanist/Ritualist. The problem is that Ritualist -> Oracle are the same exact rank.
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>>739674174
>game releases
>monetization begins
hopefully it'll be worth the porn
thanks and have cum
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>>739604624
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>>739674045
it's not a hero shooter, why would it have a tank role?
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>>739617890
>she's fallen off

you shut your whore mouth puta
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>>739645805
who gives a flying fuck what /v/ thinks half the time?
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>>739604624
Dota collab
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>>739674937
Not a hero shooter? What are you talking about? It’s a hero game with 4 skills, and it shoots. The only difference from any other shooter is that you buy items and collect currency, and in this game it comes naturally. That’s also the reason people aren’t liking it.

You are a retard. stop sucking dick
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>>739644967
Uh oh someone doesn't know how to buy items
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0% chance this game fails. It might only do moderately well, but there will always be third-world players farming whatever loot the game eventually adds.

The esports scene will fail miserably though. I can’t wait to watch that collapse lol.
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>>739646067
How about the observation that no one seems to be liking the changes that keep getting made to this game and the most well received update so far has been the one adding a gamemode that completed ditches the game's genre?
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>>739676067
highest IQ Deadlock hater
when you're bored in your grade school math class today you should look up why hero shooters have characters with four abilities specifically
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>>739676168
competitive deadlock is fun to watch, i don't see how it would flop. i mean, if people will watch dota 2, deadlock tournaments are an easy sell.
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>>739676339
>hero shooters have characters with four abilities
>ITS NOT A HERO SHOOTER

doofus
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>>739676459
it's okay to be young but you shouldn't be posting here
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>>739676457
dota is much easier to read
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>start playing deadlocn, having barely touched a moba
>frens joins in, leaving lol behind to rot
>lolfren who didnt join us decide to be a bitch and complains about how I "broke" his esport dream because I stole his team mates away
>utter confusion in chat and vc
>he leaves the server and blocks us.
Beyond whatever the fuck that was, game's fun.
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>>739676457
>young girl gets held down and raped
this is the patriarchy
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>>739676652
nah she was born in the 1600s. she aint young
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The last time I played was the update Rem got added, how Dynamo, Rem, Victor and M&K are metawise? Nerfed to shit or still viable and fun?
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You literally just posted flashy slop with no skill at all. At least in League or Dota, it requires significant teamwork, not just “ohhhh attack my target!” Even Overwatch has amazing moments of teamwork. This shit? No. It’s just burst this hero down, etc.

Knockdown is beyond stupid easy to use, and it’s the most effective item in the game.
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>>739607564
I'm looking at cr right now.
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>>739676495
its not cool to be a fat boomer loser pedophile,

scram doofus
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all you need is some popular dude to play your game and others will play it.
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>>739676817
it's just funny seeing three people waiting patiently in the secret shop. it's not common. i am sure every other moba has plays just like this where a 3v1 gank is done with hard cc.
>Knockdown is beyond stupid easy to use, and it’s the most effective item in the game.
you must be low rank, it's not "the most effective item in the game" since thanks to its clear telegraph and delay, it is countered by dispel and counterspell, items that cost the same as it (while also dispelling and countering other things at the moment of use + a small heal
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>>739676760
They've changed the urn to have a capture time where someone can walk up and punch it to convert it to their side and "steal" it before it gives out souls
so the meta right now is constant team fights and urn runs and it makes most of the heroes you mentioned a lot better.
Vic saw some nerfs because he was going gun and running into things to destroy the enemy base but he's still Victor and he will sit on the urn and win it so he's fine
same with Dynamo
Rem got a lot of great buffs, mostly to tag along so it heals a lot more and not just to the first heal target. that and his ult make him good now
not sure about Mo. Probably still the same.
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>>739674045

You see damage taken on death screen with breakdown on the type so it's straightforward which resistance to buy.
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>>739646067
made for holy priest cock
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>>739676651
>discordtroon is a deadlock player
like in clockwork
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>>739676760

Each is average or slightly above. Victor is played as a gun character now, but as a more of a tempo pick instead of hypercarry. You max ult first, get 4.8k gun spike and run at walkers.
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>>739676965
>you must be low rank
or maybe you use knockdown to bait all those things u just said? jesus christ you are stupid for example indomitable

dog shit bitch go lie how you are above Phantom
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>>739677078
on scoreboard you idiot
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>>739677348
I think gun Victor is fun but I hate that is how he's played
His abilities don't lean into him being gun and lean him to the far opposite, but they just keep fucking nerfing him and they buffed his gun for some reason to compensate
Just rework him at this point
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street brawl exposed how boring standard and farming is.
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>>739676817

What rank are you to think the best item is one that is countered by both Counterspell and Dispel Magic and does jack shit into characters that don't fly?
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>>739677548
>using one 3200 to counter another 3200 makes the first 3200 better, somehow
mmm nah. also silence wave is the better anti-indomitable tool since dispel magic cannot be used to prevent the silence wave from triggering indomitable. counter spell works against silence wave, but it's less telegraphed, especially close up.
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>>739677667
lmao you can use counterspell and dispell magic while channeling?> hahahahahah

now tell me to get a 6400 item to counter a 3200 and say it not good

>>739677695
who said it was the only option ? cope harder retard go make more shit up for nothing faggot
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>>739677695
>>739677667
its like retards just forget channeling exist
>BUTS ONLY GOOD FOR FLYING!
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>>739677850
not sure why you're so angry here
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>>739604624
Seems to be doing pretty well to me. It has been hitting 80k on the weekends and it hasn't even had a major update in a while. We got a small balance patch a few days ago.
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>>739605109
Damn. This has to be the most boring sfm animation ever.
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>>739677348
You don't really lean into wallbreaking playstyle anymore.
And with urn changes he is back to playing as spirit simply because AoE is kinda mandatory. You just max ult first anyway
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>>739676821
no, you're just looking at thumbnails, you can't download the full res images or the links provided in the posts
it's basically looking at a graveyard full of ghosts and saying "no, dude, everyone here is alive and well"
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>>739604624
add wards
make the minimap good
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>>739677883

The cast had 2s delay. Who is that good against besides Seven or spirit Bebop?
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>>739678379
And you think wards would work? Simply show people on minimap?
And if they add wards I assure you they will add fucking smokes and nobody will want to deal with this shit
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>>739677890
Hes mad because people know hes low rank and now hes on damage control mode
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>>739678379

Fuck no. The absolutely last thing I want from Dota is the ward bitch role.
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>>739676457
The action is more fun to watch but the strategy is harder to follow despite being simpler due to the perspective.
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>>739676528
I have no idea why people think this. I don't play DOTA. I have no idea what is happening in any DOTA clip I have ever seen. And I'm not alone, because every time anybody posts anything from DOTA, there are a bunch of people going
>I don't get it
followed by MOBAfags posting gigantic essays explaining attempting to explain what the hell people are even looking at.
Deadlock is a complicated game but it is way easier to see and intuitively understand why something is impressive or funny.
>>
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>>739681726
I'd impregnate Silver forma de garou
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>>739681681
DOTA has dogshit visibility and anyone pretending it's fine has never played another videogame. Half the particle effects have no defined shape and are basically a fart cloud with like no character animation.

To be brtually honest, reviving ancient drama, Riot mogged them so hard in this department it's not even funny, hence why it became the more popular eSport.
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>>739681681
have you watched overwatch competitive? it's similar to that, when the perspective is down low and there's a lot of effects you can't see what's happening, dota can get very unreadable at times though to be fair, but generally isometric is much easier to see what is happening
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>>739681940
funny because that's what I think looking at league
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>>739682180
It can get crowded but literally just compare the vfx and character animation, it's no contest.

In LoL, attacks are almost always sharp defined shapes, in DOTA they're typically amorphous blobs with an unclear start.
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>>739682008
Yes and Overwatch is extremely easy to understand. Everyone skirmishes, somebody gets some kind of advantage, everyone presses Q, one team dies. I think DOTAfags are fundamentally misunderstanding the perspective thing. The goal of a spectating is not to see literally everything that's going on with everything simultaneously. It's stringing together the important events into a narrative that you can follow. Being 100 meters in the air away from the action makes it hard to follow because it's hard to tell what's important. You don't have this problem if you play the games because you know what's important. But that doesn't make it fun to watch because unlike a more intimate perspective, important events aren't highlighted; everything in an isometric camera is given the same emphasis.
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>>739615149
yep. the character designs are increasingly faggy too. hard pass
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>>739668276
Dota 2 voice lines are only more """memorable"""" because you've heard them 10,000 times
Deadlock character and voices are more iconic
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>>739684329
yeah, cynical quip #25 said by girlboss #7 is soooo iconic I actually can't even!!

EDIT: thank you for the GOLD kind stranger
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>>739682414
compare the sound design and character silhouettes and league is incredibly amateurish; defined hard edges on magical spells has always looked like ass and gameplay of league is just a bunch of multicolored arrows flying around
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>>739604624
>what went wrong
Dog shit players left and right (I'm still ranking up but it does not change the fact they are garbage)
Urn is fucking gay just remove it, it is not fun. The urn from 2 versions ago was better than this stupid heavy melee slop fest.
Keep it more in line to what dota 2 does.
>>739684329
The Amber Hand's voice was 100x better and they made all the "patron" lines speak in the 3rd person because its not the patron talking anymore so its gay.
Dota 2 had better voice acting in general, instead of largo he just fucking sucks.
>>739605419
You are a shitty bad player.
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>>739684906
>look at me I'm high elo so my opinion counts
it doesn't
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>>739684329
deadlock has too many lines, too many too-long lines, and too many ad-libs, and the game is already too chaotic so the voice lines make the chaos worse and are unparseable in the moment
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>>739685094
You sound insecure.
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>>739615290
i will now try your videogame
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>>739685254
you're the one posting a screenshot of your rank as if you're trying to prove a point
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>>739604624
just make it open to the public most people can't be arsed to invite a total stranger
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>>739685337
Typed through shitter tears. Relax you'll get out of Seeker one day lol
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Despite jewtubers over glazing it as the second coming of Christ I dont see it even reaching anywhere near LoL or Dota2 at their peak and definitely not release Overwatch of Rivals numbers when it actually comes out
Its gonna hit a new peak cause Valves name then a huge dropoff when people get raped by gazillion hour beta testers
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>>739604624
What went wrong is that it's impossible to learn anything without pissing someone off. There's no non-ranked mode so you can't test a character against actual players in a mode that isn't ARAM, which is nothing like the actual game.

The characters are hard to pick up, most of them aren't viable even if you know what you're doing, and they have to jump through too many hoops to do damage. That's why Victor got the shit nerfed out of him, because he could do damage without needing to first load up DDR: Deadlock Mix and play Through the Fire and Flames without missing a note.
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>>739685454
man I am glad I don't have to deal with shitters like you that just masturbate over their numbers going higher. at least not in-game
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icefrog has no vision for this other than "i like dota and gunz"
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>>739685870
You will never have to deal with me because you are retarded mutt in pisslow. Also I always mute randoms, they have nothing worthwhile to say.
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>>739686074
>Menu music: 0%
Soulless golem
Opinion discarded
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>>739686074
>no communications with his team whatsoever
so you're carried by your teammates. got it
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>>739686184
You never had an opinion to start with pisslow troon.
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>>739686234
>erm you only hit ASC 3 by getting boosted non stop by randoms
And you haven't? Skill issue shitter lmaoooo
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>>739686241
>>739686339
you sound upset.
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>>739686576
meant for >>739685094
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The setting is more interesting than the actual game, probably the only other mystical 1940s inspired game I've played is Skullgirls
don't know why millennials don't use this style more over the bland hyper futuristic one they were about to use
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>>739686643
nah the post is meant for the dude that has trouble climbing Ascendant
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>>739684635
>defined hard edges on magical spells has always looked like ass
No? Hell, Deadlock's vfx philosophy is closer to League than it is DOTA and it's a complete net positive. Although they probably took inspiration from what the rest of the industry is doing than Riot in specific.
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>>739682898
overwatch you can't even see things happening because there's too many overlapping shields, which is a game design issue, but another fps like CS it's very easy to see what's going on
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>>739687151
meant for >>739685337
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>>739687996
I accept your defeat
now go win some matches so you can keep your rank
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>>739686903
Because any time period pre-1980s was 'problematic' and most creators these days realize that attempting to create convincing atmospheres would be impossible without pissing off a shareholder or shoehorning some bullshit in that was ruin the atmosphere

The natural solution to this problem is to make it alt-world fantasy where none of that shit matters as long as its cool. Skullgirls and Deadlock do that just fine.
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>>739688485
meant for >>739687151
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I hate the fucking urn change. I don't want anything even close to TF2. That game blows
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>>739676528
Overhead RTS camera always provide better visability
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>retards thinking a game that is already essentially open to everyone with more than two brain cells and a person to add on friendlist for an invite is going to be as popular as the two assfaggots games on the market already
also muh esports, dota's pathetic excuse of a scene is already dying and you think comparing shitlock's potential future to it is a good thing? LMAO
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>>739689170
it's doa
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why do you faggots hate on this game so hard, its the most refreshing thing to come out in years
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>>739690475
>it's just smite but made by nuValve and directed by one trick pony icefrog
>refreshing
anon, I...
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>>739690737
>conjecture posted just to be contrarian
yeah idk why i even post here anymore
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>>739690836
>conjecture
lmao. yeah maybe it'll be better if you'll return to your echo chamber discord server faggot
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>>739674045
frontliners exist they just take skill to play, you dont get to ignore 6 people and drool on yourself
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>>739604624
Did ever had good numbers? I feel like people are too entrenched on other "24/7" main games



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