You WILL buy a Steam Machine.
>>739619654its a PC console for poors. why would I want to downgrade?
Can I play HL: Alyx with my Quest 3 with it? I'm a macfag but I kinda want to play PCVR games
>>739619807>slick black and sexy looking>super small and portable>easy to use>linux>can take it to parties and the ladies will think you are cool. Ladies love high tech gadgets>high chance of being cheapIs not always about raw power.
>>739619654but i already have a pc and a series x
>>739619951>Weaker than a PS5 Pro>High-techA better analogy would be to Macbooks. Outdated, overpriced, but sleek and good marketing towards consoomers.
>>739619654Where's the FUCKING PRICING INFO, Gabe??
>>739620072Look, just chill. There is no way it will cost more than $700. That is the most optimal and affordable price point. This thing will be a huge success like the Steam Deck, Steam Controller and VR. Valve never misses.
We won't have a choice if we want pc gaming to survive at this point. Nvidia and AMD are abandoning us.
I have zero chance to buy it in my country
>>739619807I dont even understand who this is marketed at.The OG steam machine failed big time and no devs were making games for the machine, it was just a PC box that PC players already have.Funny enough this might be aimed at someone like me.I mainly play on console, haven't built a PC since like 2012. Have a gaming laptop i sparingly use, only really play RTS despite having fuck loads of games on steam.If I could have a small box that I can plus into the TV that is nogt a massive drain on electricity or a big physical burden i would buy one, but the only way I would buy one is if it was as cost effective as a console.So the only way they are gonna sell one to me or people like me is if they sell it at a loss.Which desu, valve could afford to do, especially seeing they have a monopoly on PC stores.They will be essentially trying to take money out of the console market by competing for store sales.Again the only way they can do that is selling it at a loss to compete.One thing though, if this actually got huge with normies, they would have to invest in anti virus and security because it would be a PC, used by complete morons who cant into PC but put all their data on it.ngl if it is for sale for 4-600 I will buy one.>inb4 ram increase.not how business works, if they had a contract with the providers for X price, they have to provide for that price.Manufacturing process of this was clearly started before the Ai bubble.
>>739620053MacBooks have been best laptops money can get since M1 came out 6 years ago
>>739619654Probably not, since I already have a really good PCBut I'm definitely gonna get a Steam Frame. I have a facebook VR machine but I hate the facebook shit that's on it. Facebook genuinely have the worst software ever. Really looking forward to valve's VR machine by comparison
>>739619950This is just a guess, but probably.It should be able to stream to the Frame, so I don't see why it wouldn't work with a Quest.Try to find someone who uses Lunix for VR and a Quest to get a better opinion.
and the price is still unknown lol. they’re banking on the hype of a shadowdrop cuz it’s going to be $1,000+, aren’t they
>>739619654Hopefully it lives up to expectations
>>739620337(You)
>>739619654I haven't been paying any attention to this thing so spoonfeed me if the Steam Machine is more powerful than my current system or not. Thanks.
>>739620689no, of course not
You guys are not seeing the bigger picture here. As a PC enthusiast you know that every year there is a chance that something might go wrong. Nvidia updates break something or Windows does. Then there are the potential viruses, malware and all that stuff. Don't lie to me, you know this is true. As a PC user, troubleshooting will always be present. The Steam machine eliminates that. It's easy to use as it gets. It's about streamlining and introducing the general audience to Linux. A PC/Console just to play games and nothing else. Plug in, download and play without all the windows baggage. Sure, it may be a little bit weaker than your current rig but let's be honest, when was the last time you played a high fidelity AAA game? We all know those games are trash. You only play indies, retro or older games. The Steam Machine will play like 99% of games.>but the anti cheat!Dude, really? You play crap like Battlefield 6? Come on. You are better than that. Play Deadlock instead.
That's all well and good but where the fuck is the Steam Frame? I need it to use it to do exposure therapy for my crippling social ancient so can you guys maybe get on with it? No, doing it in meat-space doesn't allow me to meet people I find interesting enough to interact with and I need an abort switch that lets me exit a social situation whenever I need to, in an instant without me wasting my life with moving my butt across the globe if I feel the need to change the setting.I'll still probably get a Steam Machine as a cute Linux machine but I guess I'll wait until most Linux gamers got theirs first.
>>739620651He's rightIf you want a laptop with good performance and also don't want people to think you're a permavirgin, then you go with Apple Silicon
>>739620970>Sure, it may be a little bit weaker than your current rig but let's be honest, when was the last time you played a high fidelity AAA game?Will it run KCD2 on full HD in good quality? I indeed feel a bit silly using my monster rig to play Skogdal but it's nice to have some compute power available for the occasional computation heavy task.
>>739619654day 1 nigga, day fucking ONE
>>739620970>linux has no malwareLOLlmao evenhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware
>>739621570You only get those if you browse the internet. The Steam Machine is strictly for games. You will never get any of those.
>>739619654>16gb ramits dead on arrival
>>739619654I already have a PC. Pass.
>>739621570and that's just the beginning>>739621678https://forms.fbi.gov/victims/Steam_Malwareyou made me lul
>>739619654Depending on the price, I'll get one as a living room PC.
>>739619654No, it's e-waste
>>739619654>You WILL buy a Steam Machine.Yeah, all 3 million of us after 6 years.
>>739620153>Valve never misses.>"Early 2026"
>>739619654Possibly if it's not priced retardedly high, so with the current state of affairs probably not.
>>739620153It's going to be $1,000.
>>739619951>Thinking about sex all the timeDud you are mentally ill.
>>739621704No good game needs more than that.
>>739622197modern games + other apps open does need more than 16gb
>>739622541No they don't. Every modern game can be played smoothly with 16 if you tinker with the settings a bit. Is not a requirement at all.
>>739622541>+ other apps openyou're supposed to use Big Picture Mode
>>739619654I've been saving my wageslave money since the announcement
No I won't. I'll probably kill everyone that has used the store "steam".
>>739623482Calm down Tim
>>739619654>underpowered brickno
>>739619654Nobodys paying retail price for this dogshit hardware
>>739620297>who this is marketed atThat huge blob of people on the steam hardware survey who have meh level gear and clearly don't care. Over 50 percent still run 1080p. They don't play or care about high end stuff...So a small box for the TV? Sure... It's not aimed at anyone with a $$$$ pc...
>>739619654I'll get a Steam Frame, sure.I'll only get a Steam Machine later, if VR gamedev goes well enough that I need to optimize.
>who is this marketed tooThe majority of the userbase. Most normal people do not care for high end graphics. Gameplay is king and the Steam Machine with the new incredible Steam controller focuses on that.This is going to be a massive success. Haters will be blown the fuck out so hard, I can't wait lol.
>>739619950Yes easilyI streamed hl alyx to a quest 1 from my linux pc with a gtx 1070
I will purchase the steam machine because I use steam and enjoy purchasing video games on steam
frame fucking WHEN
>>739624689neverits cancelled
>>739624280>still run 1080pSo do I. My TV is like 13 years old, its not broke so why buy a new one.4k is only really good for movies/TV anyway and I am not a cinephile, I watch movies to zombie out to, on a laptop in bed and I have not watched TV for close to 3 decades.With vidya gameplay is all that matters and the resolution increase of 4K from Standard HD like 1080 isnt a dramatic leap like SD to HD was.Saying that, I did "say" to myself that when the next console gen comes I am gonna get a 4K and larger TV.By then 8K will probably be the standard, idk.
>>73962468911mins
>>739624863this guy is a big fat lair
>>739624561>incredible Steam controllerOther than being sarcastic and pretending to be a fanbow, what is so good about this controller?I look at the form and it is a mess, 2 trackpads, that wtf, who can even use them. Shitty stick placement, quite expensive for a controller, which is a peripheral that is not easy for most to replace parts.Why but it.Why not just use a PS5 controller.
>>739620053Ps5 Pro is eight times the physical size. Steam Machine also has FSR4, so the whole PSSR thing means nothing.
>>739624994g-gaben...?
>>739625014my nephew has six ps5 controllers laid in a graveyard by his desk as they died from drift or whatever. my original steam controller still works just fine 11 years later. now he wants a pc because his ps5 can’t expand storage and he saw me buy a 1tb sd card for 80 bucks and just plop it in my deck
>>739619654I already have a gaming PC that's more powerful so no.
>>739625215Yes, but is it cubic? Thought so faggot
>>739619654I already have a steam machine, its called my pc with linux.
>>739619654I got a 4060 laptop on black Friday for 650 I doubt this will hit that price point
>>739625141Yeah this is a LARP.PS4 controllers were cheaply made, I guess to recoup PS3 hardware losses.PS5 controllers are sturdy as fuck.If someone has fucked up 6 controllers, that is 1 per year since the console has come out they are a retard.My PS4 controllers broke mainly by playing fighting games and I frankensteined and replaced parts on them. I have had my PS5 for nearly 5 years and its my main platform and while I have bought a new controller s my original one felt worn, it is not broken.Also>ps5 can’t expand storageDefo LARPIt has nvme slot up to 8GB.I put 2TB in mine. Takes 2 mins to install one.
>>739619654I unironically am. I live in a tiny ass apartment and my tower is massive.
>>739619654I'll wait on the Steam Deck 2 instead.
>>739620053may I see the PS5 pro games?
>>739625582>It has nvme slot up to 8GB.just enough to fit the whole library, neat
>>739626074Which is probably going to be ARM powered by the way.
>>739625582I'm still mad at Sony for using cheap-ass membranes for the DualShock 4. I've had to open up both of my controllers numerous times over the years to replace the d-pad/facebuttons, both with OEM replacement parts, and 3rd-party. Both wore around the same amount of use. Even modded my X button's underside to more flatly press against the ring of the membrane (they use different shapes on each face button that are a smidge sharp), but that didn't help the durability either.
>>739625582there is reality and in reality modern controllers use horizontal graphite plates as potentiometers which eventually separate the aluminum holding the graphite toward the potentiometer pin. older controllers use larger vertical graphite plates which don’t separate from gravity; hence why gamecube and dualshock 2 and the duke and series s controllers don’t drift. the real larp is pretending you don’t know this, or this doesn’t exist. (You) can argue with reality and the truth but I will simply reply with a jpg of the horizontal graphite plate inside the ps5 controller and let reality cum on your disgusting face
>>739627008Same with me. It would mainly always be the down diagonals on dpad and X and square buttons, the buttons I would be using most in fighting games.PS5 is a lot harder to open up too.I have not opened one yet but seen vids.On a related note, the PS5 cleaining.Sure they made it easy to get to the fan and get the fan out but the fucking dust that gets in the heatsink and even just getting to it to clean the air vent is a mission.I swear they do that on purpose so normies just buy a new one.You often heard with the PS4 being a "jet engine" because normies could never into cleaning the inside of teh console, and that had fucking torx screws, scredrivers nobody had.PS5 has 48 new style torx screws to get to the heatsink to fully clean it properly.Still not done it properly yet but I had to buy a fucking new torx ready for it.>>739627524PS4 pad was clearly made with panned obsoletism but like I said PS5 pad is sturdy as fuck, you and your fake nephew are retards, that is all.
I have a $3,000 PC. Why would I buy this thing?
I just want the SFF because I'm moving abroad and want a pc I can fit in a carry-on
>>739627653Okay here is the horizontal graphite plate and here is an ifixit article explaining the plague of horizontal graphite plates in modern potentiometers https://www.ifixit.com/News/48944/heres-why-ps5-joysticks-drift-and-why-theyll-only-get-worseis ifixit larping too? (You) will say they are, and that’s because you’re retarded
I already have a pc. I'm only interested in the steam frame
>>739619654Okay, but will it have games?
Honestly I am only tempted because the case is so pretty.
>>739627852SO why are not every person going through 1 controller every year?Because they are not retards. throwing their controller against the wall because they cant suck a trannys cock in fortnitenow kill yourself
>>739627987Here you go.
>>739626275Nope, just a cut-down Medusa Point, it's going to have 12 RDNA 4m compute units, no need to worry now.
>>739619951>slick black and sexy lookingYou can find cases that look like that>super small and portableAlso in small form factor>easy to useAll computers are easy to use unless you are retarded or go out of your way to make them difficult to use>linuxYou can install that in almost anything>can take it to parties and the ladies will think you are cool. Ladies love high tech gadgetsOh ok fun troll post, almost got me>high chance of being cheaptop kek
>>739628089I earnestly believe many people are going through dualsense controllers every 2-3 years. why else would other manufacturers begin developing technology like tmr sticks if not for durability? and moving away from physical failure points like graphite plates? an analog stick only provides 500 points of input; you don’t need an atomic level of control over magnetism to improve that input
>>739619654fi my current PC explodes, i would definetly buy it, if it's at reasonable prices aka can't buy used PC with similar or better performance locally.
>>739627653>PS5 is a lot harder to open up too.Honestly is one of the main reasons I'd rather just pay the premium for a Steam Controller. That thing is a fucking joke to open up, with no plastic clips bullshit like either DualShock4/DualSense.
We really arguing that PlayStation controllers aren't cheap garbage with lots of drifting? The steam controller is vastly superior. Sony is a joke.
>>739628648it is well known modern analog sticks and their horizontal graphite plates are prone to drift. those who disagree are tribalistic retards who deny reality
>>739627672It doesn't look stupid next to your home theatre
why don't all controllers just use hall effect?
>>739629248Because they can sell 500 million controllers instead of 100 million
>>739629248because they have extremely high profit marginsall three console manufacturers sell absolute fucking trash for twice the price that chinks sell shit that destroys them on features
Why should I buy a Steam Machine over buying a mini PC and running bazzite?
>>739619654Never, i got a computer. Why would i want a vape cube, its for kids that want and xbox or ps.
You guys enjoy this. I will skip it and wait for zen6 or the Helix, assuming Microsoft doesnt fuck it up which they probably will.
>>739626074Last update from Kepler, if you believe the dude, was 2028 is the target and Valve didn't even have a chip yet.
>>739619654Is there any compare website where I can see if this is better or worse than my current PC? Given the state of the market right now I might just buy one as a backup, it's small enough and I am hoping it has a fair price unlike what we have with SSDs/RAM/GPUs right now.
>>739619654I'm buying one just to see what it's all about. If anything I can always repackage it and give it to a sibling or cousin for Christmas if it sucks.
>>739629827Look at spec, google your specs vs listed specsAre you retarded?
>>739629827>CPUSemi-custom AMD Zen 4 6C / 12Tup to 4.8 GHz, 30W TDPGPUSemi-Custom AMD RDNA3 28CUs2.45GHz max sustained clock, 110W TDPRAM16GB DDR5 + 8GB GDDR6 VRAM
>>739629934What the fuck kind of GPU is a:>Semi-Custom AMD RDNA3 28CUs 2.45GHz max sustained clock, 110W TDPYeah I'm retarded, why doesn't it say something like Radeon RX 9070 or Nvidia whatever so I understand it.
>>739629857please give gyro and flickstick a chance
>>739619807So you can finally play PC games on your TV like ConsoleGODS have been doing for decades.
>>739630361>ConsoleGODS
>>739629557mini pcs don't really ship with worthwhile gpus
>>739630408>seething at the console player's skill>still has to play hunched over a tiny monitor
>>739630361You can always play PC on your TV if you had a cable.
>>739630408outfuckingskilled. Pc fats wish they were this good.
>>739630294Per the random article I found on Google>On paper, the Steam Machine's closest equivalent lands right around AMD's RDNA 3-based RX 7600M. The semi-custom RDNA 3 chip is closest in power to a laptop RX 7600.
>>739630468>HOL UP LEMME DRAG MY 400LB PC INTO THE LIVING ROOM AND HOOK UP THESE ADAPTERSGTFO, nerd.
>>739629729They don't have a chip because they can just pick one and make some slight adjustments to it. They're not doing what the others are doing.
>>739619654This is all very exciting and all, but>>739620072
>>739619654Integrated graphics (AMD)
>>739620414i imagine it would be the same setup as other PC where you have to have an autistic router setup in order to get pcvr running passable on quest 3, unless they actually fix steam vr to be optimized on the quest
>>739619654>no 4k 120fps because valve didn't shell out the extra few buck for a hdmi 2.1 portFuck this thing, you guys sit here touting it as the ultimate console for playing indies and games that aren't UE5 slop yet it can't even hit TV's max fps. Forget the Ps5, It gets mogged by the switch 2 of all things.
>>739633552the no 2.1 thing is because hdmi kikes won't allow linux to have drivers to run itit has the hardware for it, it just needs driversamd is trying to get the kikes to release it again, let's hope it suceeds
>>739633552It doesn't have HDMI 2.1 support only because HDMI is a bunch of faggots and they hate open source. AMD driver is open source.But there is patch on the way to fix that.
If it's more than $600, it's pretty much DOA.
>>739619654>>739619951I'm not buying your Satanic Steam Saturn (Triple S) cube
>>739633552>no 4k 120fps because HDMI didn't allow a linux driver to exist
>>739633840you are lying to yourself if you think it will be under 900 dollars.
>>739633552>for a hdmi 2.1 portWrong, and you don't even know what that means. You are like a woman buying makup
My machine is already steam like so I don't need to buy it.9600x 4060, 32gb, 2tb nve
>>739633840>If it's more than $600, it's pretty much DOA.Lol it will sell out instantly at $600. $700. $900. $1100 "doa" you are dumb
>>739634151It will "sell out" because there will only be a few units to be sold, and then when it flops it will be discontinued.
>>739620297>if they had a contract with the providers for X priceThat is the issue they didn't have a contract. People love to meme Steam does nothing but it isn't true. The Steam Machine is when Steam does nothing. They announced it without securing ram and ssd and now they are fucked. They either don't release it and take a huge stain or release it and it will be crazy expensive.
>>739619654Nope. I got my gaming PC. This Steam Machine is trash.
>>739634253Oh, ok, so according to your logic it will be impossible for it to be a success or doa. Which is it? Cool brain you have there.
>>739629557The Steam Machine completely blows out other Mini PCs at a similar price range. The Steam Machine is roughly at least 4x more powerful than my current Beelink SER9 Pro.
>>739619654i am definitely getting one for my livingroom entertainment setup. gonna be baller when the boys come over
>>739627008>I'm still mad at SonyI'm sure the WW2 veterans at Sony Japan HQ are literally shaking with fear
>>739619654IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII wonder ifffffffffffffff the guts in this thing could have been put toaaaards making a Steam Deck 2 that you could ssstill use hile cnnected to a tv.
>>739619654No thank you, I already have a nice PC so I will rather use that money for games
>>739633840Unbundled 512GB model it'll be $600-$650, bundled 512GB model will be $700-$750. They're going to take a small loss on sales, as said by Mike Shaw, and then they will switch to Chinese RAM to make a profit at the same prices.
>>739635903Everything wrong with Sony started with moving their HQ to California, which is what led to the PS4. Now they're bleeding literal billions this generation with nothing to show from it.
>>739620297OG steam machine failed because it had no games. Valve expected developers to make ports and they didn't.so they spent the next decade making Windows games work on Linux. This is the difference.
>>739637013>OG steam machine failed because it had no gamesThey also cost too fucking much for what is a PC sized PC. At least the new Steam Machine has the small form factor angle going for it.
>>739637134The Alienware box was tiny, and a good deal
>>739636706Source?
>>739619654probably yeah, since my living room is all the way across the house from my PC
>>739638408Mike fucking Shaw, I came up with the prices since Valve got this shit in 2024, anyone claiming it's going to be $1000 doesn't know what the hell they're talking about nor know how this shit even works.
I have a 5080. Why would I want this shit? If you've never had a PC it's not the worst idea.
>>739638667>I came upk
>>739619654I'd rather put Steam O.S. on a decent PC. Then when i need to run windows apps I'll just boot it into windows. Windows has to much ram bloat and kills performance. To bad we can't go back to the days of assembly code where you could just remove the need for a O.S. all together.
>>739638732Because steamos is going to be magical!
>>739638732because wiring your 5080 from your stinky bedroom all the way over to the living room TV on the other side of the house is a giant nightmare. it's also less of a nightmare than using streaming.it's not for you.
>>739638732Most I'd consider this is a backup machine that fits in a backpack easily + something to hook up to the HDTV. Shit'll be too much for what I'd want to pay for though with the current ram/nvme market.
>>739619951>>slick black and sexy lookingUh no>>super small and portableIt's a stationary device moron>>easy to useFair point>>linuxLMAO>>can take it to parties and the ladies will think you are cool. Ladies love high tech gadgetsCXD>>high chance of being cheapHAHAHAHA>Is not always about raw power.KEK
>>739619654does it play GTA VI?
>>739639284This guy powers on his PC to watch fucking Hulu lmao
>>739639496GTA is for 10-year-olds
Call me when there's a snap-on monitor for it that works off the USB power delivery.
>>739619654no but I will buy 'eck 2
>>739639647>t. never plays anything besides valorant
>>739619654Why the fuck would I? I have 9800x3d and 5070ti.
>>739639806>rusting AMD CPU My condolences.
>>739639496At low with FSR performance maybe.
>>739639806To watch Netflix on apparently according to this guy >>739639692
>>739639435>It's a stationary device moronThis Anon never took his Gamecube to his friends house to play some Smash bros while his friends parents argued over divorce on the other room. I genuinely feel sad for you.
>>739639435Riveting.
>>739639910Pathetic cope. Steambox is using AMD CPU and GPU BTW. So is every other console.
>>739639667cope
>>739639667And adult americans.
>>739639993My condolences.
>>739639284Just get a fucking laptop? Steam machine is using fucking RX6500 as gpu. This shit is a joke.
>>739619654I own a gaming PC.Why would I waste money on this?
>>739640189Because it will make your dick look bigger when you put it on it.
>>739640085Intel babies are so fucking funny. Especially after the utter humiliation of melting down CPUs.
>>739640234My condolences, AMDreidel shill. Maybe one day your kosher CPUs will be relevant.
why not spend the money building a pc with a larger form factor and cheaper parts then stream to your tv with moonlight?
>>739640283You are pathetic saar. No I won't redeem intel.
>>739640283Are you a bot or something? Or regretting your retarded purchase?
>$3000+ gaming desktopSoulless. Only fat virgins own shit like this.>GabecubeSOVL.
>>739619654Yes. Daddy Gayben needs his submersibles.
Or i could just buy a chinese gpu with the same power as a steam machine that will also blow up under high stress
>>739640785>Or i could just buy a chineseDropped.
>>739638806There's no real way the Steam Machine can cost $1000 or more.
>>73964088990% of PC components are already chinese.
>>739640607>posts an obvious AI summarySAAR, PLEASE TO BUY THE AMD AND THE LINUXCORP LINUX PRO LINUX SAAR
>>739636585cute feet
>>739619807Youre not wrong but connecting to a tv without problems and doing everything from the couch has an appeal
>>739619951>can take it to parties and the ladies will think you are cool. Ladies love high tech gadgets
>>739628290>you can find black and sexy looking cases in a super small form factorWrong
>>739619951based, bitches love touching my pocket pc
>>739622136more like mentally chill, amirite fellas?
>>739641154What do you get out of acting unbelievably retarded
I'm going to buy the steamframe even though I already have a quest 3 and I only ever use it for porn
>>739641154The same thing you get out of being genuinely retarded and supporting Advanced Mechanical Dreidels.
>>739619950I played it on an RX580 8gb with my rift s. Worked just fine. This is way more powerful.
>>739619654Just buy a fucking laptop at that point, mini-pcs are retarded either go full performance or mobile.
>>739643626No lol
>>739643626>LaptopsUnc shit. No thanks.
Nope I won't. Never will buy outdated hardware at a 100x increase. It's something niggers do.
literally e-waste, from specs to design
