>think "haha it's funny these antagonists in this series keep bringing this shit up">go down a few rabbit holes>what they're saying actually makes sense.I think cars are fucking evil, man.
>demakegood morning sirs
Think about how a modern city operates. You are born into a concrete grid that you didn't ask for. To survive: to get food, to go to work, to participate in society, etc., you are violently forced to engage with the highway system. You have to buy a car, pay insurance, and sit in gridlock. The infrastructure was built long before you existed, and it completely dictates how you move through life.That is exactly what the Great Will is. It is the unthinking, cold infrastructure of the multiverse. The cycle of universal death and rebirth isn't a malicious plot; it’s just cosmic traffic. It is a mandatory system of spiritual transit that forces human souls to endlessly commute through existence.Now, who built the highways?In Vengeance, we learn about the primordial Mother Goddesses (like Tiamat) who represented a world of open, unstructured nature, a world where you could walk anywhere. But then the "Bull Gods" (The Creators/YHVH's equivalent) usurped them. The Creator is essentially Robert Moses or a tyrannical urban planner. He bulldozed the ancient, natural world, paved it over in asphalt, and legally mandated that everyone has to use his toll roads. He stripped the ancient gods of their power and turned them into regular demons, which is the equivalent of tearing down a local neighborhood to build a parking lot, then forcing the displaced residents to work as parking attendants.When you play a standard Shin Megami Tensei game and pick an alignment, you aren't actually changing the system. You are just choosing what kind of traffic you want to sit in. None of the Alignments solve the core issue: you are still trapped on the highway. The Creator is still collecting the tolls.This is why Lucifer’s rebellion, and the True Demon path, is the ultimate existential awakening. Lucifer is the guy standing on the overpass pointing out that humans actually have legs. To achieve true liberation, you can't just buy a different car.
>>739620819Do people in Japan have an issue with cars or is it just the writing team? It's kind of weird that both this and SMTVV have a cars are le bad argument and released in the same year.
>>739622384Japanese people are just extremely extremly stupid and think everything they can complain about it profound.
>>739622119Yoko was right and she's best girl
>>739622384Raidou also has a sidequest about how cars are ruining everything
>>739620819big locomotive paid for you to think that way
>>739622384They're walkable city enjoyers
cars ARE evil!
cars raped my wife and slew my brother with a katana
cars seduced and devirgined my pet dragon
Cool.When are they going to start writing about how evil alcohol is and how much eviler it is when combined with cars?
>>739623305No, alcohol is based
>>739620819Reload was nice since it gave more scenes showing Takaya's philosophy, which IS logically sound until he pivots into killing everyone because reasons.
>>739622119>American infrastructure and cities are built entirely around cars>Europe and Japan embrace walkable cities and trainsYeah, I'm starting to see a pattern here
>>739623343>>739623305Alcohol just kills you at any quantityCars get you anywhere super fast and allows you not to be near smelly subhumans like on the train,bus or streetIn modern society everything good must be killed and banned to control and demoralize and dumb down goyim
>>739623305Alcohol is like the demons. It's bad for you but it's simply too cool and baked into human culture and consciousness to abandon.
>>739623454Im from a very developed european country and trust me NO ONE likes trains and buses, atleast no grown up male.We only use them because there aren't literally enough parking spots, one main topic of conversation in any euro city is how you can't park anywhere and how that sucks compared to USA.Of course we don't envy anything else from usa or the americas but yeah in some places here parking is literally impossible.Makes you feel like cattle. With hundreds of people on the train.
>>739622119It changes oftenIn Apocalypse it was setup by YHVH to keep humans from ascending and perceiving him. He sets up meatspace, endless death and rebirth, hides behinds armies of angels and sits on the throne behind the veil.The alignments are all playing into his hand, so long as they're still struggling and praying he wins either way.The only winning move here is the Massacre ending. A new world free of his and the GW's influence, the souls of humans reborn into the new universe, the "demons" returning to their undefined forms
So this is the power of jp writing..........
>>739623807>female cant recognize basic reality and feels smug criticizing a basic need of modern human society while offering no solutionactually if you think about it, its amazingly accurate
>goodmakeWhite slave game
>>739623305there are supposedly less younger people drinking alcohol nowadays so you don't have much to worry.
>>739624302Just checked, that's true
>>739620819Most car accidents aren't the fault of the vehicle failing and leading to an accident, but the drivers on the road, either the own car driver or someone else in a car.Driving around with a motorcycle is quite literally risking your life, because the amount of people who don't know how to drive or shouldn't be allowed to drive a vehicle are massive, to the point this pandereta country I live in now mandated that when you get a medical cert for renewing or getting a driving license, you have to bring a medical report so they can deny giving you the license based on your health pathologies.
>>739620819>muh car problems Cool message bro, now talk about jews and maybe you'll be profound, not talking about shit that's just a fact of life.
No jap game will ever truly criticize the real reason their society is dying. 14 hour work days followed by being on call for the next 10 hours any time your boss has a thought
I've had to pass on many jobs in the past because what is only a 30-45 minute drive is 2 hours by public transit. I don't like cars but they're necessary if you want to do almost anything and you're not living in a big city. I'm not even American and I run into it.
>>739620819>cars are evil>not the retards driving them absolutely retarded.
>>739623243>Behold, as I make up a scenario that never happens to get mad at
>>739620819Stairs have killed far more people longer.
>>739623807still more interesting than american writing.
>>739624568this.It's hard to take this kind of writing seriously these days when nobody is addressing the elephant in the fucking room.
>>739622384>Convenience at the cost of human livesThis is a legitimately interesting societal issue though. You could ban personal cars and only use public transit+delivery vehicles, especially within city limits, and have a functioning society, but this is not really done. We are willing to sacrifice some amount of people for our convenience, but where is the line?I think it's just Am*ricans who are not willing to think about this, since you are so car-cucked
>>739625259Lmao. Try going on an hour long commute in a crowded bus for once in your life cuck.
The moment I got a car I swore never to take public transport again (I failed but still, I've MOSTLY avoided public transport)
>>739625259>We are willing to sacrifice some amount of people for our convenienceThe closest I have seen to ramming a pedestrian was this combination>Friend had drunk a couple of beers>Distracted pedrestian woman started walking in the street with her babyBy milimiters he did not hit the woman and baby.As long as you arent distracted when crossing the street as a pedestrian the chance of something happening is basically 0.
>>739620819You know what I find funny?There's arachnofobia mode in a lot of games, right? Why is there no carfobia mode? A lot of people must be traumatized by either their own or their family members' car accidents. Isn't being reminded of your dead loved ones and/or your disability caused by a car accident more important than "I kinda feel funny when I see a spider, teehee"?Every game should have a mode that changes cars into horses or something.
>>739625446I used to live in the countryside and I commuted to school on a bus every day, the ride took around 30minsI'm 32 now and I don't have a driver's license. I walk/bike/bus/train to move around, and it isn't a big issue for me>>739625630There's more than just pedestrian deaths to cars. They cost taxpayer dollars for road upkeep, you have pollution from gasoline and road dust and you actually make moving a large amount of people less efficient since cars take way more space per person than public transit
>>739624568You're an idiot with no imagination if you seriously believe that cars are an immutable fact of life
>>739625913Yeah no shit it's not a big issue for you when you don't understand what you never had.
>>739625630>my friend is a piece of shituhh yeah ok
>>739626013And what is it that I'm missing? Living in mortgage slavery?
>>739625259>We are willing to sacrifice some amount of people for our convenienceIt's not about personal convenience, car manufacturers need to make money and will push back against public transit only area laws.
>>739624485This makes a whole lot of sense when you consider how much drinking is social drinking.
>>739622384cars probably seem a lot more annoying and shitty when you don't need them at all and can actually get around pretty well via the trains.
>>739627024Now I'm thinking, do these people like racing games? like they only see cars for videogames and profesional racing? or do they hate/dislike every kind of car no matter if fictional or profesional racing?
>>739620819Fuck cars.
>>739626213Pretty much yeah.Specially now.But also the need to be completely awake and alert while you travel or you risk having an accident and having to put yourself in debt even harder.
>>739625259If a regular car is bad isn't a big car extra bad
>>739625259Should we ban horses too since people also fall down from them and get hurt?
>>739622119Most US cities were not the result of a malicious monster like Robert Moses. Ultimately the highways did benefit the country as a whole, granting people greater autonomy, the ability to safely move themselves wherever they wanted as long as they had the money for a car (which used to not be an unreasonable sum). The problem is that the prevalence of the car caused public transportation to atrophy and now we're stuck in this nightmare where literally every public service is accused of being socialist and can't get funding or public support. The country is collapsing thanks to short sighted greed and retarded spite.
>>739627468It's called economies of scale, it's why jumbojets are fine, but private jets are a waste of resources>>739627490No, since that's your own damn fault. Car-centrism is a burden for the society
>>739627738What about drunk riders that kill people by running them over with their horse? What about random horse kicks? Horse can go on rampages as well.
Honestly, people all laugh at Yoko for this, but this is genuinely her most interesting hot take. It's not necessarily that cars are bad but rather how humans use and abuse cars and how the system uses cars to manipulate humans in a grand Mandala cycle.
>>739627859I suppose this is the whole point of the original argument. Where is the line when personal convenience is not worth the societal cost?I've never seen anyone argue horses/bikes are badCars are contentious in some countries, but they are mostly accepted globallyPrivate jets are quite often considered ostentatious or wasteful
>>739628324It also ignores the lives saved by cars, like ambulances don't exists.
>>739624997you're a rat kike who will burn in hell for eternity
>>739628395I was initially of this thought, but I don't think that's the point Atlus is trying to make. It's really an argument against personal use of cars and the car industry.
>>739628395Ambulances are a public service, like public transit, not a personal convenience. Allowing personal cars on city streets makes ambulances and buses less efficient
>>739628713Are you saying ambulances are not a convenience my guy?
>>739628407Sephiroth looks different in this remake.
>>739622119>This is why Lucifer’s rebellion, and the True Demon path, is the ultimate existential awakening. Lucifer is the guy standing on the overpass pointing out that humans actually have legs. To achieve true liberation, you can't just buy a different car.And in smt5 he regrets that and says he is still trapped in the mandala (traffic).
>>739620819prove him wrong
>>739628770I think you're deliberately trying to misunderstand me, so I don't really want to argue with you
>>739629284I think you are stupid and can't communicate your ideas correctly.
>>739625259I think you should be banned from reproducing, since your kids will 100% die from it jk that was never an issue anyway
>>739623807I actually like Yoko and Tao, they had a fun dynamic, and by the end Tao basically just smiles and nods when she starts Chaosfagging after initially considering her viewpoints.
>>739622384How does a life in Japan usually end suddenly? They don’t have a massive drug (booze lol but roll with it) violent crime or conflict problem. What takes people’s loved ones away without warning in Japan is cars, suicide and overwork. They’re only really allowed to be upset at one of those.
>>739629689Accidents happen everywhere. Also Japan always had this housefire problem because they make homes out of bamboo and paper tissue + pack them tightly together.
>>739625078>game made by bongs
>>739622119>The cycle of universal death and rebirth isn't a malicious plot; it’s just cosmic traffic.>you aren't actually changing the system. You are just choosing what kind of traffic you want to sit in. None of the Alignments solve the core issue: you are still trapped on the highway. The Creator is still collecting the tolls.Being able to recognise AI posts is going to get me killed
>>739629247THE WEAK WILL BE PURGED
>>739627628Of course the part you aren't mentioning is how blatantly and ridiculously corrupt every public service has become. The distrust and accusations aren't coming from nowhere.
>>739629778Accidents happen everywhere, but less peaceful places have bigger things to worry about and be upset over. Their weak fire safety regs paired with their history makes me think they might just like to burn.
>>739630352If you are going to die you are going to die no matter what. If a car doesn't kill you, something else will. NTA btw
>>739623305I remember some demon cracking a joke about drunk driving.
>>739623243Pretty much this. You can't simultaneously have a walkable city and a low-trust society.
>>739625563This. I live in a college town where only niggers go to to college, and busses are unusable during the school year. You'd think a bunch of future astronauts and lawyers would be a little more quiet and respectful, but no, they hoot and holler and fucking yell all day if the heater isn't on full blast, when it's already 95 degrees outside mind you. Once summer hits and all the nig start nogging back to their tribes in other cities, the buses are almost deserted, the drivers are noticeably happier and less stressed, and there's less random needles in the bus too. If a eurocuck ever says he hates public transport, he means he hates niggers/browns but he's too cucked to say it.
>>739624997Hey rabbi, whatcha doing? Telling your fellow whitoids that other places are just as shitty as the racemixed hellhole?
>>739620819>
>>739623705>one main topic of conversation in any euro city is how you can't park anywhere and how that sucks compared to USA.If you add more parking you get cities like Dallas and Houston where most of the city is parking lots and everyone has to commute from the suburbs by carDespite bulldozing churches, homes, and shops to make wider roads and parking lots Dallas has worse traffic than most European citiesOutside of the northeast American cities are bleaker than the most decrepit decaying post-soviet shitholes imaginable
>>739622384>>739620819not even joking but cars are dangerous and there's so many assholes on the road that shouldn't be driving. They're great and fun but holy fuck your stupid grandma shouldn't be fucking driving nor should the fucking retarded kid whose going 40-50 over to show off to his fat ABG.
>>739624485Well what are they using to get high then?
>>739623705I suppose Vienna is an exception, since every single person I contacted that is living there praises the public transport there.
>>739629247Car is the best embodiment of self-reliance and independence (beside gun) that allows the freedom to act on one’s own will, it's the ultimate expression of free will of an individual.
>>739632330It's not perfect but it's probably one of the better ones, trains and buses run on time and arrive once every 5-10 minutes. Going by car is obviously still faster but public transit is very solid.This obviously depends on the country. Move over to Germany and public transport suddenly becomes a fucking meme. Especially the trains. There's constantly something up with the fucking trains.
>>739632710https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hnPwR3QcCUJust need 2 or 3 strong men
>>739632597so you're equating the willingful acceptance of wide usage of guns leading to much higher yearly death counts in US in favor of idea of agency on which US was established to the movement capabilities that cars allow, while not being on which society was rather built, but something society ended up being built around?
>>739632893You gotta relax man.
>>739631174came for this
>>739627628who would even want to ferry niggas around? last time america tried one sheboon caused a revolution from getting a bad seat
>>739627628Why would you want people to have less freedom (rely more on public transportation which only adds to the stress) instead of everyone having cars? (being more free, happy, etc)
>>739625847sorry to tell you this but rational arguments don't work on phobiafags because they already live in a world of cognitive dissonance
>>739633380Gasoline is movement taxYou're already paying taxes for public transport regardless of your inclination towards it, you want to spend even more?
>>739632597>Car is the best embodiment of self-reliance and independence (beside gun)Right, nothing screams self-reliance and independence more than buying a hyper corporate product that forces you to pay taxes to simply own, steals your data and can also be shut down by the producer or the government whenever they feel like
>>739622384Cars are legit fucked up though>Metal death trap going hundreds of miles per hour completely at the whim of whatever drunk asshole is behind the wheel>Kills literal millions every year, even the world's most dangerous animal can't compare to a fucking car>Warps a country's entire society and infrastructure around it in a way politics or religion could never>Not to mention the can of worms that is the petrodollar and the war economyFuture kids who grow up with nothing but automatic EV transports will consider the concept of cars to be fucking insane and they wouldn't be wrong.
>>739633973>making shit up
>>739629876I'm glad I'm not the only one. It's getting weird out there, man.
>>739634079None of that is made up
>>739634117It's very much made up.
>>739634180Prove it.
>>739623243Pretty much this in any minority white city. We're forced to drive everywhere
>>739622384>People keep dying to a common denominator >"Erm... I'm retarded!" Kill yourself
>>739620819Ban the assault cars nowNobody needs a high capacity assault car that can go over 40kmph
>>739628324>i've never seen anyone argue bikes are badYou've probably haven't heard of some suburbs then. The one I grew up in is currently establishing bike lanes on streets with lower car traffic. Sounds good on paper, but those streets are commonly used as parking spots for families and teachers during the day or visiting relatives on holidays, so they're killing off a lot of parking spots just for people who don't even usually follow street rules.
>>739623243>few drunkardslol
>>739632597>Car is the best embodiment of self-reliance and independence>road (built by le gubmint or some private contractor) ends suddenly or doesnt go the way you want it to goOY VEY SHUT IT DOWN
>>739634229The burden of proof is on you.
>>739634860Bet a bus won't drive on this hm?
>>739620819Americans love big cars because they are far and have tiny wieners even though their hotdogs are gigantic honestly it would be more healthy for them to catch the nearest public transport instead of killing the environment
>>739634945>Here's some easily verifiable facts>"No, it's all false">Okay, prove it>"Burden of proof's on you bro :)"
>>739631928Oh I agree that there are people who have licenses that shouldn't. The problem is that you only lose driving privileges once you've committed a offense. We already need to renew our IDs every once in a while, I don't see why the same shouldn't apply to your license, but that's a huge amount of manpower that people probably don't see as justifiable.
>>739635136>moving goalposts
>>739635049Bet a car wont turn right LMAO
>>739635214>You need to pay car taxes>"Nuh-uh you don't">Yes you do>"Okay, prove it">Fine, here's proof with sources>"STOP MOVING GOALPOSTS"How many Rs does the word "Strawberry" have, chatGPT?
Video games kill too.
>>739635148>We already need to renew our IDs every once in a while, I don't see why the same shouldn't apply to your license, but that's a huge amount of manpower that people probably don't see as justifiable.Where I live we do have to renew driver licences every 10 years or so.
>>739625259Brotherman I want you to remember North America (including Canada and I guess a bit of the top of Central) is fucking enormous. A high speed rail that circles Japan is not viable in a place 300x the size with tons of little towns in bumfuck nowhere that wouldn't even be viable to set up a proper bussing route for. NA doesn't have shit transit and terrible walkability because people like it, they have it because the country is super spread out and people travel around more for basic shit like getting a new stove or some shit. And I know you said "within city limits" and that's even dumber because no city is going to install giant parkades for people coming from a nearby town to enter from. I get that there should be better transit, there should be better footpaths, and there should be more things like +15s that allow foot traffic easier, but it's just a different situation in a gigantic nation vs a small island chain.
>>739634815there's a strong difference between someone quietly stumbling a little bit to the train after nomikai and some brownoid blasting "ethnic" music, shouting, and trying to fight everyone in a public plaza
>>739635434>North America is too big broHow come China's doing just fine?Oh right, too much money that would be much better spent for Bezos' wife rings...
>>739632597Americucks actually think this. A car is quite literally dependent on a global supply chain to keep it functioning, not to mention the licensing and taxes that I'm sure other anons will go into excruciating detail about. Cars are cucked.
>>739635527Because all of China's population is concentrated on the coast following industrialization, meanwhile despite being urbanized the population density in the US (due to both lower overall pop and being more spreadout because we don't desire to live like bugmen) is no where near enough to make high speed rail economical outside of the northeast corridor
>>739635527>How come China's doing just fine?The fact that you believe China is doing just fine means you have fallen pray to CCP propaganda
>>739620819despite seat belts?
>>739635148They should raise driving age to 21. I don't necessarily agree on renewing until you get your first offense or you're old AF but honestly cars should be a secondary option not the primary option but holy fuck I guess it's also that it's so overcrowded everywhere.
>>739635434Can only speak about Canada, but Canada can absolutely be a walkable province in Ontario. Montreal is pretty great as a city (not toronto, piece of shit city). The real reason they won't is how will the poor politicians get money on their "projects" if they actually finish them? think about the poor politicians!!!!
>>739620819america's a big fucking country man, the fuck am I gonna do, walk across all of texas to see my family? take a bus?I like being able to just drive over there
>>739629876You should have seen it in the first paragraph.
I get it. He hates sitting in traffic. I hate sitting in traffic. We're not so different, he and I.
>>739630997Your precious Japan is importing millions of jeets and indonesians every year.
>>739636148keep talking schlomoisrael is getting nuked
>>739635885The US definitely isn't walkable by any means. Outside of shopping areas and main streets in the big cities, getting around is slow. You'll be lucky to have two bus lines that go to the general area you're getting to, and even luckier if those buses arrive in a timely manner, or show up at all. Of course, you also have to deal with "those" passengers.And speaking of projects, burgerland's California has had plans for a high-speed railway for over a decade now, but I think it's been constantly cockblocked by bureaucracy and environmental shit. I don't think great public transit is in the cards anytime soon for North America.
>>739635527Aside from what the other anons said (i.e. population consolidation and propaganda), China has a ton of rural areas that are populated by elderly people that still make all their food by hand in concrete and wood shacks, often without even having paved roads. My Chinese grandma literally had to fetch water and heat it up in a two-sided bucket to have warm water to clean with.It's very different from the wealthy retirees holed up in small towns in NA that like to travel around, and most of these people aren't exactly big city people either.
>>739631594>If you add more parking you get cities like Dallas and Houston where most of the city is parking lotsI remember some commentary made from some city simulation developers that considered simulating the need for parking but had to abandon it because the cities they studied and the amount of parking needed was like 70-80% of the total surface area of the city, which wrecked the aesthetics and was completely unfun to deal with.
Like I don't get the argument here, I'm not saying cars shouldn't exist. I'm saying the car population is overpopulated and cars should be an alternative or secondary mode of transport. Not primary. We shouldn't let the average man have access to a fucking thing that can blast through and fucking murder a shit ton of people because they had a bad day.
>>739635885I mean same shit in Alberta, we still haven't done fuck all with the green line in Calgary and Edmonton is a fucking travesty of city planning.I do remember a lot of close knit neighborhoods in Ontario when I visited my relatives but also a lot of open country road and driving to get to my grandpa's old ass private property.
You niggers reminded me that VV is part of the Humble Bundle this month, I guess I'll just fucking get it, then
>>739637186Here's where I derail this whole thing with a facetious statement comparing your argument to gun controlI summon thee, Americana Artillerica!
>>739623243>walk in america>*ALERT* *ALERT* *ALERT* *ALERT*
>>739637387honestly it's funny because I'm the opposite with gun control. sometimes I think we should have carry since it keeps people in check..... some of these fuckers (immigrants) act like monkeys because there's no consequences. fucking and risking with other people's lives is fucked up and the only way they'll get a clue is if people start getting popped.
>>739635603>Cars are cuckedI feel you, I wished aswell speed limits didn't exist, atleast you can speed in some spots and it feels damn good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6ouHWP0KrY#t=1m35s
>>739625259Only works in small regions like japan that condense everything. Ban cars where I live I now lose >4 hours a day just going to and from work.
Uh.... Persona 3?
>>739635632>Because all of China's population is concentrated on the coast following industrializationSo is North America's, in fact there's even two coasts there but for some reason no high speed rail infrastructure whatsoever, oh wait the actual reason is because of the american car lobby which is also the reason why cities weren't built to be walkable.So no, it simply doesn't add up to the actual facts and how the chinese infrastructure keeps expanding at an incredible pace.>>739635695>Americans accusing other nations of propaganda while propping up the status quo of the single biggest propaganda machine on the planetSad, but also hilarious
>>739637478Ok but it was a joke am I funny
>>739627490Yes, but not because of people falling down, but because gachafaggots have been getting uppity lately
>>739637593>american car lobbyinteresting, tell me more about how this american car lobby prevented canada from building, to date, a single mile of high speed rail
>>739633973Old cars, retard. Not the evil new "smart" ones
>>739637641meh I hate this place. I think honestly we should just settle things with fists.
>>739620819I mean it's not all that surprising that japanese game devs who likely all live in the biggest urban center in their country are against private car ownership, their public transit systems do everything they need them to do and are less dangerous to the populace overall.
>>739637738There is no practical difference between canada and usa
>>739637738>But Canada thoWe're talking about North America buddy, by the by Canada recently announced a high speed railway project so you better not get into an even worse argument.
>>739637738Canada unironically will never fucking build anything of industrial convenience when it comes to transport, whether for people or goods, because of all the aboriginals screeching about how they don't approve of how it has to pass through "treaty land." Literally worse than aussie abos.
>>739637751>Old carsOld cars are on their way out in all possible ways, they're completely irrelevant, especially because you still pay taxes for those too AND the government is making them illegal
>>739637824no hitting, I have delicate skin
>>739637738You'd be foolish to think that Canada of all countries is somehow immune to influence from the USA. Every time Canada has tried to insulate themselves from the USA's influence the USA throws its weight around and suddenly you have things like entire commercial airplane manufacturers being sold to foreign countries to survive.
with a car, you can go anywhere
>>739620819how eurotrash of you.
>>739637909i accept your concession :)
>>739635434>no city is going to install giant parkades for people coming from a nearby town to enter fromEvery american city is half made of parking lots already and they don't have any public transport not just high speed rail
>>739637909>Canada recently announced a high speed railway projectHURRRRRRRRRRAY MORE TAX MONEY INTO FORD POCKETS LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>739638151>say stupid shitBuses and trains exist.
>>739622384someone let haru drive again
>>739637909>>739638227Isn't Canada super poor right now?Like the average canadian can afford less than the average european.Which is crazy low compared to usa.
>>739620819>SMT>Pic unrelated
>>739638301pretty much. i mean euro is being a police state so that's already embarassing but I'd probably compare us with the EFF instead except instead of hunting immigrants, they're Anaheim electronics.
>>739625259For some reason non americans struggle to understand that america is bigger than almost every country most of them combined even
>>739638450That argument would be relevant if the population was spread out equally over the entire country, but it obviously isn't.
>>739630734>Pretty much this. You can't simultaneously have a walkable city and niggers.Just say niggers. It's cleaner
>>739638301Everything is really expensive. I guess gas is lower than the states but that's about it.
>>739638661Nta but I like to call it the PB & J style of society. I'll let you determine what it means.
>>739638661Ngl it's not the blacks for me.It's the indian, arabs and brocoli haired whites....
>>739638446>i mean euro is being a police stateCIA is a european intelligence agency?Palantir is european?
>live in a heckin walkable 15min Euro city>finally decide to get my driver's license>costs almost 2k euros>city has been designed and recently optimized to be as anti-car as possible so driving is not fun at all>continue walking and taking public transport everywhereWhy didn't I listen to Yoko. Money stolen.
>>739637593>completely ignores the main point of the argumenttypical chink cope, cant even control a little island off your coast lmao, chinese women love taiwan dick
>>739637593>chinese infrastructure keeps expanding at an incredible pace.let us know how that whole government funded real estate bubble works out anon!
>>739639094>don't get driver's license>can't get a job because if you don't have a driver's license you're a retarded faggot virginI have car fatigue and haven't even touched my car in literally 1 year. Little faggot probably won't even move
>AIIIEEEEEE CARS BADONGI'm a leaf that walks and busses but doesn't really get all the crying about cars, if some dude wants to drive down to the grocery store then by God let him. People act like the world would be some perfect utopia if car man didn't exist but it's never that simple, sure pollution but are you gonna stop India? Hell this board is built off Chinese plastic shit getting driven around 24/7.
>>739640079>are you gonna stop India?
>>739640079There's nothing wrong with cars. There's everything wrong with 90% of the retards who drive cars.
A car killed Nujabes so yeah fuck 'em.
>>739620819Based and anti-car pilled. Has to be in the top 10 worst jewish tricks of all time.
Deport everyone who isn't white or East Asian and I will support walkable cities, public transportation, and universal healthcare.
>>739620819>Pick Yoko because of gameplay reasons, which is to say damage + dekajaMaybe stop putting so much stock into the writing and play the fucking game?
>>739641181>or East AsianLolLmao
>>739642420japs and koreans behave themselves
>>739642465China is in the East stupid and they have no morals
It's not like things were much better before cars. What's the difference between dying from a car accident and dying from disease and famine? As technology advances people prosper. Takaya's thing is nihilism. He doesn't really care one way or the other. His own point is that given people die so often from accidents all the time, what difference does it make if someone's life dies by his hands? Because individual lives don't matter in the slightest to him, as far as he's concerned, the few deaths he causes are barely a drop in the statistics. And at any rate, his ultimate goal is to wipe out all life on the planet because he believes this is the only possible action anyone can take with genuine meaning. So again, it really doesn't matter how many people he kills.For some reason, people on this board think that Takaya's making some sort of ethical or moralistic argument, when the entire point of the conversation in that scene is to showcase just how little individual lives matter to him. People die all the time, ergo there's nothing wrong with him adding 0.00001% to that statistic.
>>739642556only because they get fined for reporting casualties
>>739622119>you are violently forced to engage with the highway system. You have to buy a car, pay insurance, and sit in gridlock.Maybw don't be born in Muttistan?
>unironic anti-car faggotrySome of you niggers have never sped down a back road on a sunny day before and it shows.
>>739620819Jesus Christ
No real person is actually anti-car by the way, they're just anti-nigger.
>>739644368I like cars, but I think they should be heavily regulated and gatekept so only non-retards and actual enthusiasts can use them. 90% of people right now don't deserve their licenses.Also if they're gonna be regulated then transport should also be good.
>>739644368Seems like they are just jealous that Americans have freedom of movement
>>739645193the only thing that would make sense to be jealous of is cost of tech in US being significantly lower than everywhere else
>>739645193the freedom of needing to spend large quantities of money on a product because the entire country was convinced by car companies to make things as inaccessible as possible without their product, while also needing to entrust the general populace to not kill you while operating the vehicle
>>739646068>the freedom of needing to spend large quantities of money on a product because the entire country was convinced by car companies to make things as inaccessible as possible without their productOur country is big idiot. Americans go places in vehicles far beyond their work or grocery stores.
>>739644368I don't make enough money for shit like that.If you want people to have cars you need to pay people more.
Buying an electric car was the best decision I ever made, petrol monkeys thanks for subsidizing my ride
>>739640079hello fellow leafEverything is far more spaced out than what it used to be.Go around town counting all the parking lots. How much space each parking lot takes up.That could have been a ton of shit there. Houses and stores and what not which are instead big fucking parking lots. So now everything is more spaced out and you need a car to drive everywhere because everything is so FUCKING FAR now. It's more expensive to travel and it's about the same amount of time at this point lol so what was all the point?It's a vicious cycle of idiocy.
>>739646468sure, and a car can be fine for stuff like that, but I shouldn't have to take a 10-20 minute drive every time I need to buy food. What you are describing is something that is a luxury, I am talking about how the entire country forces cars as a necessity. Cars = freedom of movement is true in the sense that all US infrastructure is built around their use for basically everything, outside of a few urban centers, The separation of residencies and commercial areas create alot of space to travel between, and create a need to buy vehicles that end up being manned by people who don't take the fact that they're driving a massive hunk of metal seriously.
>>739647241I mean if you have a car you can carry a lot more groceries meaning you don't have to go to the store nearly as often.
>Alignment: Chaotic Evil
>>739647495from what I've been told being able to walk to a nearby store to restock on something for dinner that night is very pleasant. Being able to buy smaller amounts of fresh produce more frequently sounds great to me honestly.
>>739647670If that was more common, stuff like Bananas would taste better since they'd be able to ripen on the vine for longer instead of pulled early for longer shelf life.And if they had a shorter shelf life, the price would be cheaper to keep people buying.
>>739632160Weed is cheaper and easier to get than ever but i think zoomies use harder drugs like random pills and shit otherwise i think most of them are mainly sober outside of tobacco.I'm not a zoomer but i barely ever drink. I used to smoke weed daily but it's illegal here and therefore expensive and for me alcohol just isn't worth it because i have to drink a couple liters of vodka before i feel anything at all so it's also pretty expensive. When i do drink i drink shitty 3$ vodka. Thanks for reading my blog
>cars are le bad>look inside>failure to launch retard with no license why is it always like this?
>>739647920I have a license and I hate cars and driving.
Why is this a communist propaganda thread and not about video games?
>>739623807I mean, is she wrong tho?
>>739646881What it all comes down to is nobody wants to go out at night and get stabbed by Jamal.
>>739648012>If you don't wanna be poor you're communist.Maybe I just want rich people to be held accountable for their actions.
>>739648156Yeah we want Jamal to break into and steal our cars instead.Wait a minute, maybe Jamal is the issue...
>>739648297this is so true we should kill students studying at university and minimum wage retail workers who work in computer stores
>>739632893Go ahead and tell me how many percent of those deaths from guns are done by legal law abiding citizens it's probably in the single digits. Take niggers and troons out of the equation and the number drops almost entirely. Obviously there is still the accident or the jilted lover or what have you but gun haters never seem to notice this one simple fact
>>739648297What's this from? This is nicely written.
>>739633380>Just one more lane bro. Bro please, bro
>>739648176the action in question>having more money than me
>>739638661It's more than just niggers
>>739648156>>739648228>Remove morals and ethics from education.>Reduce education standards.>Education stops being about giving students constant cyclical problem-solving behavior and starts being about indoctrination of propaganda.>Import immigrants with zero education and give them priority.>Try to enforce law without ethics.>Rely entirely on fear-based tactics and consequence.>But also remove all consequence from governors and other law-enforcing bodies.>Nation fucking implodes.>Everyone spends their time pointing fingers and trying to find out who's responsible instead of fixing it.
>>739632160Get high?
>>739648590Uhh yeah I am pretty upset I do everything I'm asked and still can't make a living, I think that's a pretty reasonable way to feel.
>>739638561It's not an argument it's a fact
>>739648379Bussing to university is pretty common but yeah jobs just aren't always available locally and near a decent active transit route.
>>739647920>Have license>Have job >Still hate carsWhat now lil bro? What's the next goalpost?
Why do I feel like this is just a bunch of Europeans whining in here
>>739648807Apparently it's "you're poor":>>739648590He sounds like one of those shareholders or stock brokers that have the mind of an adolescent and their entire self-worth comes from how much fictional money they have or can obtain.
>>739648530Sad fate but it brings issues that aren't being solved to the peopleThe peroonal wagemobile leaves big daddy government guilt free forever
>>739648530are you one of those faggots aggressively pushing for immigration so you can use the fear of immigrants to make more money? You sound like you have an objective here.
>>739635360Thanks anon! Can't believe it was still unused, guess now I'm obligated to replay the game.
>>739627628Convenience breeds dependence. This holds true for many things and what you just described is a prime example. They already made you give up your legs because of cars, now with AI they'll make you give up your soul too.
>being able to leave your city is le badhuh??
OP here I posted this on my break at work.Why does this thread have better discussions about morality than anywhere else on the site?Not complaining, genuinely happy.
>>739649146>People never left their cities before cars were invented.There's a reason railways and subways are more common in much better cities.
>>739647872imagine a world where you don't have to grope every avocado on display to get some that aren't completely inedible until a week after purchase
>>739649213and if the train goes down?
>>739649259what if ur car goes down?????
>>739649282i have a friend pick me up in his car. stop relying on the government to provide everything for you
>Average Joe shouldn't have car, only government should have carsI'm sure there'd be nothing wrong with that
>>739649351>Stop relying on the government to do their job.Why don't you just tell everyone you're in office instead of implying it.
>>739649158It's not as big of bait like twitter threads or blatant /pol/ threads to attract the obsessive shitposters.
Currently China is experience a rash of vehicular manslaughter incidents all throughout the country, is this anti vehicle propaganda possibly related to that? Is China in here?
>>739649550You'll do anything to avoid even humoring the thought of a world with less cars is better huh?Cheaper and more accessible everything puts the fear of god in you.
>>739649726I'm not giving up my freedom of movement Xi.
>>739621042The original Persona 3 had anti-car bullshit, sar.
>>739649785You already did:>>739648297Obey the traffic laws, cuck.
>>739649403Average Joe SHOULDNT have a car yes. Only government. No.I feel like if you want a car, you can get one but otherwise, public transit should be good enough so nobody NEEDS one. The average Joe should NOT be having a weapon that can literally kill hundreds of people right at their fingertips.
>>739650095>I feel like if you want a car, you can get one but otherwise, public transit should be good enough so nobody NEEDS one.100% agree. I want better public transit. I want busses running more often and/or a subway system to make getting around faster without needing a car.>The average Joe should NOT be having a weapon that can literally kill hundreds of people right at their fingertips.The average joe having weapons is the last thing keeping a government from going full genocide on its own people, unfortunately. The government HATES its people because we stand between them and making an extra $1 billion a year.
>>739650248why? the government gets money via the gas companies and the amount of road "projects" they can do. THEY LOVE people driving.
We all just kind of agree to remain ignorant towards cars being the most probable way we will die, because we need them to be economically productive and ergo maintain our quality of life.
>>739650356>THEY LOVE people driving.And they also want us living in our cars.
>>739622384>Do people in Japan have an issue with cars or is it just the writing team?It's just the faggot Fatlus writers brainlessly copying western twitter whining
Cars are so boring. Motorcycles tho...
>>739649726Trying to structure a city around making things accessible by walking actually makes them more expensive and lower quality
>>739648379>muh innocent kidsReminder that all university students have, to the last, signed a contract in which they indebt themselves to hundreds of thousands of dollars of value in their future labor to faceless corporations, in return for advantaged status and position within those faceless corporations.
>>739623705>no grown up male likes trains or busesyou need to get a fucking life off of this site because the entire model train industry exists for old men.
>>739650402>We all just kind of agree to remain ignorant towards cars being the most probable way we will die,You are more likely to kill yourself and twice as likely to accidentally poison yourself to death as you are to die in a car accident. You are over twenty times more likely to die of cancer or heart disease.
>>739637983We are not going to use your survielliance "cars", jew filth
Making cars a necessity is evil, not the cars themselves.Cars should be a luxury.
>>739635998You don't need to change your lifestyle - the problem isn't with the average driver, it's with city planners, government, and car industry lobbyists. If you want to do something positive support measures to improve public transit and build light rail lines in the area that you live.Right now a car is neccesary across most of the US but it isn't impossible to build infrastructure that makes carless transport more available, more comfortable, cheaper, and faster.
>>739650891Why are you so desperate to convince us not to own property
>>739650983good hyperbole man, thats exactly what he said my fellow pancake eater!
I'll be honest I have pretty bad driving anxiety. I tend to flare up when I get provoked on the road and I really have to hold myself back from just breaking laws and speeding to follow the dude home. I just really hate people and having to go outside and spend time driving just already annoys the shit out of me. At least public transit I don't get bothered except for the homeless or people begging but they're avoidable enough rather than the guy tailgating your ass even though you're like 5 miles over the speed limit in the fucking slow lane.
>>739651017It is in fact exactly what he said
>>739622119>he doesnt live in a walkable city
>>739650983I can't own a property because I'm busy owning a car and don't earn enough to afford both.So not only am I spending more on travel time (because cars are the norm thus everything is farther apart), I don't have a proper living space and I need to pay for upkeep and gas for a car.I don't think the problem is you don't understand.I think the problem is that understanding the argument is inconvenient to you.
>>739622384cars are for chaos chads
>>739651202>Says the PM of Israel>The face of weakness hiding behind strength.I don't think jews have a single shred of self-awareness. They regularly say the most insane, stupid things imaginable with a straight face.
>>739623243>japan>clean streetsNot since the 90s when they banned public trash cans.
>>739623243Thos areas don't have police on beats because the cops are all driving around in cars. I lived in a city that had a walkable downtown area, and the businesses actually came together to spend money on private police (they just walk around giving people directions and shoo away homeless people mostly) and it made the area remarkably safer. Immediately outside that area though is where the homeless people hang out.
>>739651339It's so easy to improve a place with a few small changes that everyone is willing to fight tooth and nail to prevent for some reason.
>>739651594you're looking at what used the be conservatism before it was just Owning Libs Online.
Soooo, do you guys think about Persona 3????Haha...
>>739651743Op here again. All the time. I can't stop thinking about it in fact.Like why Metis learns Sexy Dance. Atlus isn't a company that lets details like that slide by on accident, that was on purpose.
>>739651828would
>>739651743honestly it's also related to the car talk but I wish for the fall every fucking day. some days I can break through but I swear most days I hate people more and more and more. I wish a meteor can strike the earth right now. It's weird because people say I'm a positive guy or I can hang out with friends smile laugh and make jokes but internally I'm just seething and want everyone to be free from suffering.
>>739652746That's the beautiful thing about life. You're going to die no matter what. You're going to experience death whether you like it or not. So you may as well focus on the good things in life, cultivate your spirit, and nurture your ethics and morals because whether there's an afterlife or not, it's all coming to an end eventually.The Calendar system was made specifically so the words "You have ONE YEAR" in the beginning have weight. Soon after that statement, the MC goes into a week long coma and you see a massive rush of time blink by in an instant. Persona 3 is masterful at making you feel like "time is running out", but that soon turns into "I'm making progress!"Death is a soothing thought, IMO. Partially because of all the bad things in life, and also because I want to know what's next, if anything.
>>739639671>>739639094I ended up getting my driver license at 34 and never was asked for it on any job, and now I don't have a car anymore either. Driving your own car in a world tier 1 city is totally useless. There's a subway station every 500m and buses everywhere that are faster on most journeys, and you can read or check the interwebs instead of stressing at the wheels. Parking alone costs half as much as a taxi/uber for any less direct route.
>>739653009True but at this point other people always ruin my life, even when I'm happy. Someone has to always bring it down. I'm tired of that, I just honestly feel like end everyone's suffering now. What's the point of living if there's no future anymore? Yeah I know there can be, there's always opportunities but it's just feels like fishing and I'm never getting any bites no matter how hard I try. Weather is always gloomy even most days where I break through and laugh it off the next day is rainy again. I just hate people so much man. Living in a low trust society like Toronto has made me so fucking bitter it hurts. Does medication unironically help for this? I sorta want to go on antidepressents but at the same time the feelings I have are so raw I don't want to lose them or neuter them just because it makes me feel like shit.
>>739653339Don't do it. Drugs/medicine will only make you more miserable.
>>739653339I know how you feel. I was in a rut like that. Without trauma dumping on you, I'm certain something emotional inside me permanently broke at some point and I haven't been able to cry since I was a child.But anger is an incredible motivator, better than you can possibly imagine, and every emotion you feel good and bad is important and you should let them run its course and not try to reject them. I've seen the kinda shit happening in Toronto and my sympathies go out to you. I met a guy who was like a fuckin' angel one time and one of the best men I've ever been friends with my whole life and he moved to Toronto shortly before all this started happening.The medical industry is an industry, drugs are meant as treatments to make money, not to be cures. What I have won't be cured because it makes more money being treated instead.Hold on to those feelings and rationalize them as an important part of you, then let go of the parts that no longer serve you. I'd like to say "it's going to get better" but who's to say really. Just work on yourself and be ready to make choices if opportunities do arise, and make the choice that feels the most "you" in the moment.
Ok but what if I think buses and trains are icky and sticky and just don't want to touch them
>You will never get that big budget Persona 3 Remake (made on Catherine's engine) made by Atlus' A team with Katsura, Soejima, and Meguro at the helm, that massively evolves the gameplay and story while still having that dark mid 2000s urban fantasy atmosphere, feel, and aesthetic (unlike that outscourced low budget Reload garbage)>Atlus will never port the original PlayStation 2 Persona 3 on Steam because they are too fucking lazy to update the original enginepain
>>739654202You aren't a persona 3 fan, you're a fan of using games to stroke your ego.
>>739653664Yeah... that's true I think bottling up my anger most of the time caused me to be insanely bitter instead of releasing it but now I really don't even know how to release it healthy. I just fucking ghost anything that pisses me off (and it's usually work related so that's not helping me at all). I'm working on removing the bad mojo things but it's hard. As I said no matter how many times I break through and go "yeah life isn't so bad." it comes crashing down again and I just seem to go into this negative spiral. I hope you get better soon as well. I do agree it's not healthy to think like this but at the same time, what's even healthy anymore? Maybe this whole world should just burn itself down if it's going to be just bringing people down. Maybe our souls are truly weighed by gravity and we will never be free from humanity's greed and lust for power.
>>739622119Just move to the countryside? Dumb fuck?
>>739623243Just get a .22 and a brass catcher and start coon hunting
>>739654289I would've liked Aigis million times better if her and Metis' designs were switched desu
>>739622384In an ideal society you shouldn't need a car. The enlightened japanese guy living in a metropolis can have all his needs fulfilled by safe, efficient and comfortable public transportationCars should be reserved for people with important dependancies or actually need vehicles like rural workers
>>739620819cars and bikes are an extra cancer in the ass if you live in a poor/underdeveloped area or country>everyone parks whenever, punishments cannot be enforced>motorcyclists use the pavement as a traffic shortcut>pavements cracked, crowded with large garbage bins, or columns/trees planted in the middle, sometimes no pavements at all>crosswalk markings washed out, even if not they will still be ignored by thirdwolder drivers who bribed for their license
Speaking about SMT:Honestly I started playing SMT 4 again and I forgot how great the atmosphere is. Still a little disappointed with how much it shits the ball but it is what it is. Is there any youtuber that talks about it extensively like lore discussion and how it references both SMT1/2 with the music, outlines of certain things or even discussion about it and 4A and how it's hinted in the side material and stuff like that? I'm genuinely surprised this type of discussion is lacking for 4. All the videos I see are just "THIS IS A HARD POKEMON GAME FOR HARDCORE FANS" AND "LIKE NOCTURNE BUT COOLER DID I MENTION NOCTURNE??? YOUTUBE ALGORITHM YOU HEARD ME SAY NOCTURNE RIGHT??? THIS AINT YOUR DADDY'S BASIC FINAL FANTASY THIS IS SMT" (meanwhile the game breaks in half right after minotaur. Although I remember my playthrough some of the bosses made me have a bit of a rough time)But I am actually genuinely surprised at how lacking these games have in terms of actual in depth discussion in comparison to fucking 5 of all things.
>>739620819People are illiterate. He is not making a "cars bad" point. He's disputing the idea that the dark hour should be destroyed because some people are dying from it.
>>739657001I'd probably like SMT4 a lot more if it wasn't first person dungeon crawling and the demon domains were actual dungeons. I love the idea of the setting but I can't get into first person turn based battles.
>Me>At some ritzy function >Bunch of uptight boomers who think they know everything >Just hanging out alone >See a "worldly" looking rich old guy >Go up to him and introduce myself >Gives me a disgusted look >Break eye-contact but stay near him >Calmly say >"In this country, almost 5000 people die in car accidents every year." >Casually walk off
>>739623454i wouldn't even mind having cars if getting a car wasn't the most asinine shit possible>typically can't buy direct from manufacturers because of old ass laws in the 1920's and now dealerships are absurdly powerful, have a lot of influence in states who aren't incentivized to go against it because they get a lot of revenue from dealerships even if it fucks over the average joe >go to a dealership? enjoy having to deal with actual scummy salespeople who will do everything they can to fuck you out of your money so you can pay them as much as possible >sure, sometimes some people get lucky, they get a good deal (they think) or they got one over the salesman, but vast majority of people don't get that and most Americans feel they got screwed over in some way when buying from a dealership>sometimes they'll just throw extra fees to see if they can get away with it >you have to do a whole ass ritual and strategy to make sure you're not getting fucked which is fucking retarded, it's one thing to be considerate of the prices and make educated choices on what you need, it's another to have to deal with money grubbing subhumans trying to convince you to use their financing, their packages, and they'll do bullshit like stall it to make you impatient and sign shit, etc>buying used is SOMEWHAT better but can still be a clusterfuck, especially if you're buying "as is" as you better have a mechanic friend or feel comfortable enough with mechanical knowledge to trust the car you're buying i try to cope by imaging car salesmen getting killed in liveleak cartel videos and it doesn't help
>>739622119>look up this Robert Moses schmuck cause I'm a hick from the suburbs>he's an official who's responsible for turning NYC into the urban hellhole it is todayI'm beginning to nootice. Why are [[they]] always like this? Whenever I look up some dude who's done nothing but negatively impact hundreds of thousands of people's lives out of pure greed, usually it's one of [[them]].
>>739620819wat
>>739631174Good job /v/
>>739620819>whole entire thread of jobless losers that have done nothing with their life spewing jewish bullshit about giving up your right to drive a vehicle and go where you want when you wantbug people goysprobably all bots anyways
>>739620819>atlus is so bereft of ideas they make a character based off the kid in Gamera vs Guiron
>>739627628Public transportation is woke, liberal, and anti-American.
>car autism still going strongMeanwhile I finished V's first zoneI wonder why the fuck I didn't just play it on hard on Switch in the first place, there's barely a fucking difference so far and apparently the beginning is supposed to be the hardest
>>739623807>>739620819They're right.
>>739664892I've worked the majority of my life now without driving. Thankfully everything i need is on the buses route. Including the postal facility being right across from a grocery store that the bus stops at. It's super convenient too since I work mornings and can get groceries afterwards and my doctor and all that shit are on main strip also. Super convenient town I live in. My best friend is also my landlord so my rent is stupid cheap
>catposter>retard Everytime
I just think that a lot of people who don't belong on the road somehow end up getting licenses anywayt. public transport user
>>739629689Japan is a bug society. The one is nothing, but the whole is everything.It is why they tolerate the stupid things that get them killed. It is why they tolerate the overwork and the 99.9% conviction rate. They see company's as actual family's you join. I like the art, games and fiction they produce. But fuck living there.
I've thought that it's kind of fucked up that we just shrug off car deaths as a necessity for a long time 2bqh
>>739669807Humans have been doing that for a long time over all sorts of issues.Black Plague is the example. The people in charge then did not fund cures or want to help the sick. It became a statistic to people even back then. People dying has been a metric to advance humans in all of our history. How do you think we know certain berry's are poisonous? Because 1 human took the Tree Berry challenge. There is no statue or memorial for this man.
>>739622119At last I truly see, billions must die.
>>739648530/pol/ has rotted your mind
>>739648530>How do you feel about getting stabbed to death by a nigger for no reason other than that you were there? Public transportation is a danger to society because it forces anyone using it to interact with the lowest common denominator which in most countries is brown or black niggersTRVKE NUKE
you should kill your friends
>>739622119I ride my bicycle for 5 minutes to get to work lol.Not my problem, Amerigolem.
>>739672224they are not my friends, i just meet them last week.
>>739624510Victim blamer.
>>739625259You can choose whether you want to use a car or not, imbecile.>>739638450Europe is bigger than the US, retard.
>>739638450So you drive 10 hours to work and 15 hours home again. No wonder you need a car.
>>739634000Midwit take.People need and want to get around. Cars are convenient. Cars add incredible value to people's lives.You're refusing to acknowledge that while only looking at the negatives (and false negatives).
>>739655260>I will tell you what you can and what you can't do"no"I will do what I want and you can go fuck yourself, commie.>>739634368>people keep getting injured by doing chores at homeZOMG BAN HOUSES RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!1!1
>>739672906I too love living in a noisy polluted hellhole for the privilege of spending hours every day to go to the nearest big box store and work.
>sup guys*VRMMM VRRMMMM*>Wanna hop in and go for a ride in my hemi?*Spins his wheels in a mudpit for hours*>YEEEEHAWWWWW*Uses his truck for transportation to work**doesn't even complain about cost of gas*>y'all got a problem /v/?
I half expect a SMT car boss in Persona or SMT someday.
>>739623705Retard. I'm an adult male and hate cars. Public transport is fine, they just need more investment. A bus or a train that isn't filled to the brim is far preferable to a car. Fuck you and fuck your car parks that ruin towns and cities. Also what do you imagine when you think of a transit enthusiast?
>>739673036That's not my experience at all. I never even owned a car at 37 but I like to have the possibility to do so.I ride my motorcycle where I want and I like it that way. I hate when faggots tell me what I can and can't do.I had many great experiences thanks to cars. You are a retarded midwit that fully drank the corporate kool aid.If you want to look at a polluted hellhole look no further than India or China, where people can't even afford cars and the infrastructure is garbage. Europe could be better but it's not polluted.
>>739673506>it just needs more money poured into it it's definitely not a black hole trust mekekYou are cattle.Public transport is a good alternative, if there are no browns around.
>>739673246>doesn't even complain about cost of gasThe believability of your greentext was pretty high up until this part
>>739673953 his dad pays for all of his gas
>>739622384I think it's Japan in general. Nisioisin brings it up constantly. Maybe they're so focused on it because Japan is so safe in general that it makes cars look dangerous. Especially because a car isn't even that necessary there with their extensive train system
>>739625259>people don't die from being run over by trains>people don't die from being run over by bussesThe shit you literal retards will say.
>>739629851Rockstar hasn't been a British company for years.
>>739620819my boss wouldn’t have hired me if I didn’t have a car. automobile dependency is a tyranny and people confuse it with freedom. persona 3.
>>739623807We'll have to see it from their perspective.Asians are terrible drivers, horrible even. So it makes sense that they'd see cars as something dangerous.
>>739672773>Europe is bigger than the US, retard.>the map overlay indicates the exact oppositeEuros are vassals to the US for a reason.
>>739625259If we were still using horses and carriages you would be making this same argument trying to get us to go back to walking everywhere.
>>739675729let's be honest, it's old people and white brocoli teens.
>>739677910Bro... please tell me you're joking.
>>739673487Play Raidou.
~I enjoy traveling on foot~~I have no need for a car~~I am not a cuck.~-Anonymous
I drove over a car battery left in the middle of the fucking road on an overpass, approaching at a decline, in the middle of the road and the bullshit basically destroyed my transmission and radiator and i had to tow it to a mechanic.Car dependency sucks ass and i really wish it wasnt a thing but its actually nigh unliveable in the states to live without a car unless youre in the heart of a city. Being able to say fuck it and come and go as i please to nearby counties and cities is nice, but whats also nice is living somewhere that doesnt fucking require this bullshit.
>>739623914>a basic need of modern human societyAnd who made it so we """need""" cars?
>>739683140I don't know. Nature?
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I met my wife on public transport. This is the biggest cost to car centric infrastructure it's yet another shared third place that is taken away. I probably would have stayed incel if I wasn't forced to use the train daily and have a shared commute with what ended up becoming my wife.
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>>739685434ok, but.. how?
>>739687351If you sit in the train for 30 minutes every morning for about 9 months and the same person sits right there at the same time you become familiar and eventually conversational with each other. After the initial small talk you start talking about your day etc and eventually you find a connection (in my case books) and then inevitably you hang out outside of the train and we ended up dating.
