>you must agree to all these terms if you want to hire me as a voice actor for your gamewho in their rights minds would ever want to deal with this??
>>739637486thats usually how business contracts work
>>739637651fuck off jew
>union
>>739637486I worked with an actual disney princess va and paid a single fee. It was so cheap, I gave her 50% tip. Where do you find these lunatics?
>>739637698I would never read, yet alone sign this.>>739637486Who's this, Leonardo Di caprio?
>Addition of Martin Luther King, Jr. day and Juneteenth as contractual holidays
I've seen more sanity manifested in sovereign citizen legal documents.
>>739637486This is why most game devs choose to ignore dramatic American voice talent nowadays
>>739637897good addition to identify friend from foe.
>>739637486I had a voice actor refuse to take up work from me because the first thing she thought of doing is not check the script I sent here, but instead scour my entire YouTube and Twitter page for whether I said anything that could be seen as "offensive" at all then she did and replied to me with some passive-aggressive e-mail about how I need to do "better" if I have any aspirations for working in the entertainment industry then said if she were to associate with me, it would "harm" her career.None of that mattered because the shit she was pointed at me saying that was "offensive" was never pointed at or even mentioned by anyone else but her alone. (It was me making a joke about Mickey Mouse being a child rapist, cause, you know, Disney allows trannies to get into the girls bathrooms at their parks and risk having them rape little girls) These retards desire to find more things and reasons as to why to be angry and not accept job offers for than they care about about getting hired and paid.Needless to say, not even a month later after that interaction, I saw a post from her literally BEGGING to be hired for some new roles because she's very close to being eligible for healthcare benefits from SAG-AFTRA... thing she never once had from them before for her entire 10 years of being part of the union because, you know, she didn't have enough roles under her belt and didn't reach the required "threshold" for them to consider her worth wasting extra money and resources on to give health benefits to.It just genuinely annoys me that these people are willing to sabotage themselves like this but then immediately turn around to cry victim and say how life is so unfair and that they never get that one big opportunity that could catapult them into the spotlight, even though they might have had it countless of times before but rejected it like a retard.
>>739638071maybe your product just looked like shit
>>739638398No, she specifically mentioned it's cause I made that joke. lol.
>>739637486I'm just gonna have noises and text.Boomers love it because of Banjo Kazooie and Zoomers love it because of Undertail.
>>739638071I'm glad you didn't fold.
>>739637486>Martin Luther King Jr. and Juneteenth as holidayLMAO
>>739638071hang all troonalizers and their VA pets. but>thought of doing is not check the script I sent here,Why would anyone need to check the script you sent here?
>>739638071Shes retarded but pub crawling someones history is pretty much required because someone more insane will do it, try to cancel the creator, and you taking payment from them makes you a target. No serious damage would come from it but having to play apology rodeo for 3 months is annoying and creators too socially conscious for their own good would probably skip out on hiring you for a year. And this is for stuff you CAN find, its worse when its benign private matters suddenly made public because then you have to deal with teenagers trying to drag you through the mud over someone elses badly written 2nd act of a romantic comedy.
why don't more devs just go back to text dialogue?
>>739639447VAs are streamer bait. Streamers are player bait. Players are what throws money at devs. It goes full circle.
>>739637486>protections against artificial intelligenceAnd this is why we'll never have games that have the characters say your name except in robotic tomodachi life voice
>>739639321>sent heresent her*I wrote this haphazardly and fucked up some words. Sorry.I meant that I sent her the script to see what it's about. She only had like 20 lines of dialogue, so we wouldn't have to do a live directed session, it would just be her checking the script out, telling me if it seems okay and if she can self-direct herself with the few instruction I put in there and the context of the dialogue / scene and that's it.She didn't even bother checking it out because it was more important to see whether I was problematic or not to work with before she even agreed to anything.
>>739639447Text/subs only are usually seen as signs of a low effort/low budget product.
>Addition of Martin Luther King, Jr. day and Juneteenth as contractual holidaysPardonne moi?
>>739639329yeah you should know who you work for, but you just decline the work, don't pull out a soap box to lectureif she did it with that anon, she most likely did it with others as well, a leopard doesn't change its dots
>>739639753Americans worship nekkers.
>>739638071She's based. Just like the average 4chan user.
>>739638071>associate with me, it would "harm" her careerI love it when hired guns are always up for a good laugh
>>739639742what if it is a low budget product?bad VA is 100x worse than no VA if design accommodates for it
>>739638071you dodged a bullet
>>739639953>tranny supporting pedophile is based????
>>739639329>wall of textThat never happened. We made it up. Our story? A lie.
>>739639447I have a lore reason for silent communication
>>739640137>wall of textjust say you can't read and get it over with
>>739640236Did read it. That never happened once. It's just paranoid behaviour.
>>739637486Why not just hire Fiver VAs?No need for contracts with those.
>>739640462Wrong. Some do send contracts.
>>739640491How? They're independent.
>>739639447Idk but the new 40k game Dark Heresy has full VA even for random vendors. It's incredibly distracting because it's just so verbose
>>739639742"low effort / low budget projects" have become smash hits countless times though
>>739639447A lot of retards can't really read and won't buy your game if you don't read things out loud to them.
>>739640548Anon, you might be an fool who has no idea about anything. Just a friendly warning.
>>739639447>wtf is this shit man?? why no voices??>shieee aint nobody wanna spend dozens of hours looking at the bottom part of the screen reading text>i miss like half the actions going on when i have to keep looking down at text instead of hearing it>negative review and refund
>>739640893I'm the one employing you and I should be the one to negotiate some kind of contract if I think one is necessary. You don't get to have ME sign some retarded ass binding contract like that when you're the one getting hired. We settled the payment rate verbally, you do the work and then I pay you before you send it over. If still you're that paranoid, I draft a contract afterwards that we both sign where I ensure you that I will pay so you stop being a paranoid schizophrenic.
>>739637486AI voices work, I prefer text though.
>>739637765leftists control voice acting / localization and Japanese don't know shit and are naive dumbfucks so are hustled into only being presented with woke choices.If the company has taken an ESG pledge they can only hire leftists.
>>739641526Why are the Japanese so dumb?
Does this seem like fair pricing to you for a voice request?
>>739641639They're a race of docile and obedient slaves who try their best to stamp out and expunge any individuality, this overall attitude is found all over in their society.They have a terrible and destructive workplace culture that works people to death and any young person that would see that reformed into something more humane is shamed and has their career destroyed if the demented, bitter old fucks who do nothing are bothered enough by it.They are made to be dumb and retarded on purpose because that's what their society asks of them to be.
>>739641526>Japanese don't know shitGood at robotics and some electronics stuff. Other than that they are clowns alright.>picrelLiteral mob tactics
Why does /v/ love the taste of corpo boot so much?
>>739642304cause it tastes like penis (which i love)
Who cares what they think? AI is going to replace them sooner or later, and there is nothing they can do about it.
>>739641830Cheap enough, but kinda fucked. It's a flat fee for an unspecified length. If you only want half a dozen lines, you are overpaying, but apparently you can send him an entire novel and he'd do it for $30?
>>739641830>of whatever script you send me!expect if you were to have him say slurs or demeaning things against tranvestites.
>>739637826>I would never read, yet alone sign this.That's what lawyers are for.
>>739642814>>739643062Pretty much every service has limits, and any normal person would intuitively understand that. There are terms and conditions attached, and they will tell you that there are limits.
>>739641830Considering there is no specified maximum script length, it could be.
>>739641830Write him before buying you fool
>>739643170They tend to cost 500 burger bux per hour. Why bother?
>>739641526You know what's funny though, after the translation feature on twitter went live and people from Japan started interacting with the west more, localizers bragging about their shitty work became more rare, it turns out most of the stuff they do is geolocked out of Japan, because if the original writer got wind of it they might get in trouble, now l ocalizers are scared shitless because even a small outrage on social media might reach the original creator on Japan and the whole thing might be exposed
>>739637486OG Deus Ex had better VA than whatever this faggot could possibly produce
>>739643494Signing a personalized contract without a professional to vouch for a it can cost you a lot more than 500 bucks an hour.
>>739638071dudes post stuff like this trying to sound reasonable but when you look at their youtube page the videos are like 10 top worst niggers
>>739643686You don't even need to look. He just told us that he talked shit about Disney. For a VA that wants to have a career, you do not want to be associated with someone who shit talked Disney by calling Mickey a child rapist..
>>739643828>be a bootlicker... or else.....how the fuck is disney supposed to affect stuff at this scale? they're never actually going to be voicing in anything disney related, and if that's their dream, then the person is fucking retarded.
>>739644018With how big Disney is now, that's not that unrealistic of a dream. They burn through a lot of talent.
>>739640462Why not go to your nearest theater/stage show place and talk to and hire the people there? I guarantee they'll be better quality than any fake-anime-voice shithead on the net reading their lines like they're afraid of waking up their parents.
>>739644615>your nearest theaterBecause they don't speak English.
>>739639447sis stole her brother's face
>>739644901On one hand, sorry. On the other, here's your chance to make ALL the spoken language in your game total gobbeldegook on purpose.
Stop using voice actors. Just use good voices. Like people you meet. If you hear a great voice give them a job, talk them into a role, let them be whatever the situation demands and help them if their vocabulary and mind in general is shit.I don't want to hear the same voice actors in games. Not unless they are very good. And only Balthier, Claudia Black, Michael Ironside are.
>>739637486>Juneteenth HolidayYeah I celebrate it, what's wrong with it? It's the best holiday, because it's where Americans killed two traitorous parasitic kikes for once in their shitty zog life.
>>739638071Good for her, you agdg niggers are a ticking bomb
>>739643828>For a VA that wants to have a career, you do not want to be associated with someone who shit talked DisneyJust say you didn't know and be done with it.
>>739646437Ignorance won't cut it with these people.They will still attempt to rape and cancel you and make sure you lose your career despite it.
>>739643686>numbeeer seveeeen….
>>739646530Then find a new career.
>>739646628Will Smith
AI voices are really good these days>muh VA theftJust synth a unique voice.>what about muh VAs They can learn to use those tools too
>>739640965It aggravates me that this is accurate, but think of it as gatekeeping.
lol
Alternate simple agreement:Paid in percentage of profits annually. Game divided in percentage. Share the same percentage with someone doing the least. So do more for a higher percentage yourself, require less others to make the game good. make the game good to get a higher payment. Good should mean it's well compensated, it doesn't. It may take decades before it's recognized as an essential part of history to integrate into all humanity. You are expected to provide payment details that will always be active so will be paid thousands of years from now.You can choose an initial sum, trading your service for money, with no allowance for percentage of profits. Any gift then if profitable will be in appreciation, not entitlement.Initial sum must be specified before begininning work. If you feel your work has been unusually special and deserves more, you can return what was paid and elect to be paid in percentage of profits.
>>739637486why not just hire a random guy on the street ? unless we are not talking about america but this sound extremely kiked
Do the fine fellows who post in /agdg/ actually need people to read lines for their games? I think that could be pretty fun. I'm surprised people expect to get paid for voicing lines in indie games.
>>739637486KEK we use AI thank you and now go fucking sell shit into McDonalds.
Just don't be a dick and you'll get hired.
>>739637486Why are these people so entitled? They get paid to goof off into a microphone. Its not even a real job. I do that shit for free.
>>739638071based if true retarded and gay if fake
>>739639447Most people don't read, and this is especially true of normalfags.
>>739650949Nah. Reading is a regular thing until you use homo media like 4chan and Facebook or whatever. Then you aren't allowed to read anymore.
The most important thing in getting work from someone else that you intend to put in a product you want to own (and sell) is the contract. If you don't have a contract, or have a really shitty one, these people can fuck you and claim ownership or take you to court or do other things that ruin the game. 9/10 times this won't happen unless you accidentally make the next flavor of the month game that blows up, but it's a risk I never see brought up in threads like this.t. indie dev that's going to use 100% AI voice actors for his next project
>>739641830>Gianni MatagranoThis nigger lives rent free in my head. Every time I see his faggy name I get so pissed off.
>>739639742Funny enough I liked the old TTS used in SPAZ before they hired actual people. The human-acted dialogue was shit.But maybe if every indie game did that it would get old real quick.
>>739644657guy was noticing in 2023, based af
All voice actors are scum that deserve to be replaced.
>>739638071Based.
>the charges, officer?
>>739654484Wearing tank tops in videos where you have no business doing so.
>>739654484yong out
>>739639329Skill issue. Learn to harness the power of the toby engine.
>>739637486What the fuck is an "intimacy coordinator"?
>>739637486if you don't, your game will be targetting by a totally organic hate mob and slandered endlessly
>>739640548Anyone independents serious about their work have contracts if only to cover their ass. They'll hardly be as insane as this though.
>>739641087>We settled the payment rate verbally, you do the work and then I pay you before you send it overlollmao even
>>739658520Fuck instructor
>>739658753What's there to laugh about?I've done it before without any issue.
>>739659573Yeah there's a lot of naive idiots out there. They typically learn after getting burned once or twice.
>>739637486alternatively you can tell them to pound sand like the chinks did when they tried this with mihoyo
>>739659635Nah. I've been burned most of my life. Not paid is better than no job I guess.
>>739660154>Not paid is better than no jobHow the fuck is not getting paid for the work you did better than not working?
>>739660439I get to lend my voice for a cool project :)
Nah I'll just use AI. Better results for less money and far less legal complications.
>>739637486For every kid who wants to VA in a big video game, there's the same cabal of faggots who will never let that happen anyway, why are we even letting them rule the industry like this?>>739644615This, your average community theater will probably produce better and more original results than the usual supects.
>>739643645I worked with high end professionals and never saw such a monstrosity of a contract. The contract shows me on ething: the author is a lunatic.
>>739646215Wtf I didn't know. They sold wmd for cash? To the enemy?
>>739637486why do americans hate having workers rights and holidays
>>739662146sag-aftra is the shittiest union in existence
>>739642304Why do Europeans love the states unwashed foot up their ass
>>739637486And then they wonder why everyone wants to work with AI voices instead
>>739658520It's a CYOA make-work job that started appearing in acting during the #MeToo era. In film they oversee intimate interactions between actors like kissing or sex scenes to ensure everyone is "continually consenting," proper techniques are being used (the actors in sex scenes don't actually have sex, nor do they typically actually kiss) and no one is taking liberties they shouldn't or sexually harassing people. Not entirely sure what function they would perform in VA.
>>739662959Actors didn't really have sex in sex scenes before 2012 either though.
>>739662959Oh lolZoomoids are such prudesBless their anxious little hearts
>>739644657>construction site, NOW!!!!
People who aren't from third world shitholes
>>739637486Or just hire non union VAs. Most union VAs suck anyway
>>739663464More like afraid and for good reason. Back in those dark days it was always listen and believe and guikty until proven innocent. Many, MANY people lost their jobs and their reputation because some woman who was having a bad day and decided to get them fired by screaming RAPE!!!
>>739664815Soule is a good example. Didn't do shit.
>>739638071this retard really saw that one meme of the voice actress being close to healthcare and decided to write an elaborate larp on it
>>739637486i can't even be bothered to read this. hurts my eyes on just first glance.
super smash bros brawl club rule list:
>>739638071based if true. she got what she deserved.
>>739637486>why are studios using AI?
>>739643686name all 10 of them!
>>739638071that girl should be forced to work retail with niggers at gunpoint (redundant)
>>739643513There's also that they've always tried to front like they "represent" the media while nobody else has the right to, including the OG creators.Just the shit they say on twitter alone, nevermind the workproduct, are things they don't want the japanese to interact with and start calling them out.Usually I hate the chinese, but I want to see a few of their outrage zerg rushes hit VAs for hoyoshit or whatever the fuck else. Might shake some things loose.
Tell me one reason why I shouldn't just use AI for my VA or go to a local theater group and pay them?
>>739672978You could have no voice acting instead and allow your game to have far more story through text.
>hello, I want to record you saying "script" , I'll pay X amount, is that okay for you ?>Hello, sure but before you need to agree to read my religion about how sagfra is jesus and...>Yeah fuck off, will use ai instead>NOOOOO THIS IS GENOCIDE HAAAAA
>>739672978AI can't get proper intonation down depending on the context of the dialog you could absolutely get your local theater group but most likely it's not going to be that much cheaper, and they'll also present you with a contract to do it, because they're not idiots who work on pinkie promises
>>7396729785 people on Twitter will be very upset with you
>>739639447I agree, voice acting killed c-rpgYou don't make a choice that less than 2% of the players will take because it will cost you more in VAAlso they don't say more than 3-4 phrases at once
>>739673908>You don't make a choice that less than 2% of the players will take because it will cost you more in VABG3 kinda literally did that, there's voice lines for choices that barely anyone picked
>>739672978Ai don't get toneI tried, multiples, to dub in french some porn animation
>>739672978Does your gaem need voice work?That's the first question.If it does, getting some friends to voice the characters can work over any professional.Unless you also want to help support the local theatre group I guess. Those guys tend to be pretty alright.
>>739639447I wanna cum on her thighs if that's ok
>>739643686Oh I could list way more than 10.
>>739672978Retvrn to monke and do the voiceover yourself or with your friends/family.
Just hire randos. It worked for FE Echoes.
>>739637486burgerstan is such a corpo driven hellhole they need all those securities to get the basic bitch treatment they'd get in the first world.
>>739674678Use voice scramblers>>739674396She's literally begging for it
>>739640312You can do better than that.
>>739654484Threatening to kill those who dared to STEHP AP
