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How is DELTARUNE going to end?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iURMluYM2U

*BUUUURRRPPPPP* WUBBALUBBADUBDUB GOD ISN'T REAL MORTY
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>>739638065
enough of that secondary redditor nigger. Let's discuss the game
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what the fuck did he mean by this
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>>739638065
>/v/ was vehemently trying to convince me he isn't a redditor faggot like the other """theorists"""
Not falling for it, will never fall for it.
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>>739638130
Agreed, don't give Andrew Larpingham any more attention.
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>>739638130
spbp
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>>739638065
>>739638130
QRD?
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Who cares? The game sucks and you faggots will slurp up whatever goy juice Toby pisses out. I hope it has a terrible ending so you retards genuinely contemplate suicide for all the wasted time you spent on your autistic obsession.
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>>739638168
means he doesn't have a good head on his shoulders
Kris is a such a messed up kid it's hilarious
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>hide eceleb dramafagging and all replies
>one (1) (uno) post
grim
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>>739638168
it's an old wagon that was loved
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>>739638341
we are getting raided by andrew's discord dickriders

>>739638356
latinx detected
TADC vindicated toby
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>>739638341
We were taking a piss on Andrew Cunnyham for being a complete and total secondary of secondaries last thread and some tourist circlejerk raided
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For the anon that requested it in the last thread, the Noelle Knight video
https://youtu.be/l-pOlvieT-0
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>>739638459
>Andrew Cunnyham for being a complete and total secondary of secondaries
How is he a secondary? Didnt he literally make a game even
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what guest characters would you like for the game?
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>>739637951
Temmie would be really good at drawing Kriselle porn
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>>739638497
the post that btfo'd them
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>>739638168
A previous soul was inside that wagon.
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reminder that all theorytubers are cowards until they officially give a nuanced response to outr most organic and home grown theories, 2nd hero kris and noelle knight
no the single video on each of them by anons don't count
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>>739638130
Yeah that's enough shitting on him for one thread.
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>>739638592
Ah. What a fag, thank you.
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>>739638621
NOELLE KNIGHT IS TRUE
WE WILL BE VINDICATED
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>>739638168
All evidence points to the fact that Kris used to be full Calvin in his childhood shenanigans before becoming a self-hating jaded teenage fuck
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>>739638065
He's right though, coincidences don't exist in (good) stories created with intent. Creating a coincidence just for it to not matter in the overall story is shitty hackjob postmodern writing.
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>>739638065
Can you guys stop posting jewtube niggers. No one cares about what midwit eceleb have to say
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>jerking off to a screencap of his own post from an hour ago
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>>739638491
This video is ass and dated, post the catbox collage montage with that schizo conspiracy music
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>>739638426
*farts*
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>>739638762
why are you mad an hour later, andrew?
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>>739637951
Unlike Undertale which had a very straight forward happy ending I expect Deltarune to end very weirdly, being hard to understand. I think it will be a controversial ending personal to Toby.
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>>739638168
The birdcage is easy to explain as "Kris prepared a literal cage for the SOUL knowing that they'd be possessed" but I still don't know what the fuck to make of the giant fucking bloodstain on the carpet
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It appears my inferiority has led to some controversy.
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>>739638838
Why are you mad three days later, faggot?
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>>739637951
the WAIT has all but guaranteed that it will be the blunder of the whichever decade it finishes in.
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>>739638916
kekked
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>>739638905
Period theory.
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>>739638838
>>739638916
>Your old JRPGs are shit
>Your old indie games are shit
>Undertale is better than all of them
How do you respond without sounding mad?
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>>739638932
no clue what you're talking about, looks like someone got you buttmad as early as three days ago tho
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>>739638916
>inferiority
Kek
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can you faggots go back to whichever subreddit you crawled out of? we're here to talk about video games
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>>739639006
>"WUBBALUBBA DUB DUB THERE'S NO GOD ANON THERES NO RED HERRINGS (ignore chapter 1 kris) BUUUUUURRRRRP
How do you respond without shitting on him?
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It's not even fun to make fun of anti-DessKnightfags anymore.
It's like gloating that you know the sky is blue.
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>>739638916
>inferiority
ok i like him but that got me
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>>739638621
These plus humanposting is our most effective tourist filter, no popular ecelebs are going to acknowledge they post here, at best they just lurk or shitstirr here.
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>>739638065
The supposedly best theorist... a reddit atheist.
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>>739638621
>>739639136
Doelester
Humanposting
Kris Girl
Noelle Knight

is tourist repellent in that order
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>>739638889
Because DELTARUNE's ending is gonna be based off whatever the hell Toby's was dreaming of. It's definitely gonna be very absurd, cryptic, and batshit insane.
Toby KNOWS the ending will be controversial, so I'm expecting a Homestuck ending level nuclear bomb once it drops, I don't think ANYONE will be happy with the ending.
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>>739638065
>LITERALLY on reddit screaming god isn't real
Why the FUCK am I being exposed to this faggot
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Actually just replying to his own posts every two minutes to keep his threadshitting melty going.
Maybe the most inbred brown schizo we've seen yet.
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>>739639295
me on the left
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>mindrapes /v/ with just one video
my hero
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Jesus Christ. What happened to people just writing fanfics when they were starving for content? You're not even arguing about the theories themselves but the people that came up with them. I know threads change over time but what happened here?
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>>739639342
But enough about Andrew and his discord.
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>>739638621
>a nuanced response to outr most organic and home grown theories
Kris isn't "the girl" because Kris's pronouns are they/them.
Hope this helps!
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>How long did it take for her to consent?
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>>739639376
It's just a samefag who's been having a meltdown over the last few days.
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>>739639295
I love how the guy on left looks like your typical 35 year old white guy.
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>>739639342
>Maybe the most inbred brown schizo we've seen yet.
Slavs arent white, Andrew.
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>>739639437
a girl can still go by them/ them chud
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>>739638905
he*
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>>739638916
ok I kneel, I LAUGHED with gusto
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...this isn't the thread
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>>739639367
his latest video affected my mind by inducing deep sleep, my god, what was he thinking?
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>>739639376
The highly popular, well-regarded and handsome Deltarune Youtuber Andrew Cunningham released his first real video of the Chapter 3+4 era a few days ago, and some seething brownoids and contrarians have been getting upset until it boiled over into a full-blown melty in the last thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TrrPvz6nHI
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>>739639594
Thanks for the heads up, >>739639567 .
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>>739639234
>people have forgotten about the Noelle is Andrew Hussie theory already
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>>739639342
Andrew lost and got raped.
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Do YOU know Toby?
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>>739639342
kek he's phoneposting now
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>>739638621
literally no one outside of these threads and one redditor even knows about GirlKris. Noelle Knight at least has SOME discussions outside of here. So unless you’re unironically willing to use r*ddit or xitter and sincerely try to explain your take no one will even know enough to be mad
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>>739638905
she*
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>>739639486
i feel like i remember him saying he lives on vancouver island
which would explain a lot
t. lower mainlander
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>>739639563
it kinda is
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>>739639443
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>>739639452
well anyone who is feeding into this should feel silly and should either come up with ideas, write something, draw something, or just go do literally anything else.
>>739639594
stop engaging in this kind of behavior.
No one cares if you like and or dislike random youtubers.
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>>739639689
wheres the discord invite btw andrew
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Reminder
Weird route will end with exactly what Kris wants, but with a cost so high he'll want to kill himself.
playing normally will end in an eternal loop
The way to a true good ending is to slip through the cracks
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>>739638916
why is this particular photo of Nikola Tesla so funny?
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>>739639790
>No one cares if you like and or dislike random youtubers
If only that were true
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>>739639709
the theory was broached to reddit at some point last year, but the vast majority of them refused to engage and just started updoot farming with their typical responses
they're far too close minded to engage in theory crafting with
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>>739639376
For some reason, """/v/""" is trying to convince a literal reddit atheist is based.
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Can the guy who promised an hour long video explaining femkris post it already. this thread is giving me hiv.
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>>739639234
That's pretty accurate, but I would say girlKris and humanposting get put in the same camp a lot, and the femKris theory pisses off others outside the schizo unlike humanposting (usually)
>>739639286
The fever dream ending definitely means weird shit and Toby does think it won't be as popular or received like Undertale's so it will be controversial if he hopes at least one person likes it. He also thought Chapter 3 would be hated by half of the fanbase but most people liked it, so...
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>>739639868
People are of course allowed to watch, like and dislike what they want to. But those who are engaging with this on the level of a popularity contest should be treated as no one, a non person. Disregarded regardless of what "side" of a nonexistent 'debate' they engaged in.
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>>739638905
My headcannon is that Kris tore his own soul out and kept it in that cage for some reason before the game started. I guess he lost it, which is why he needs the player soul instead.
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>>739639376
Honestly making fun of Andrew has been genuinely funny.
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>tfw he believes dess knight and not noelle knight
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>>739638341
someone posted this and andrew's discord got uppity
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>>739639917
That was the Noelle Knight guy and he already posted it.
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>>739639443
She's the rapist, she doesn't act for it.
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This is probably the worst thread in weeks if not months. Nearly zero game discussion. Just crying about youtubers and hypothetical tourists. Good job guys.
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>>739639869
to be fair earnestly expecting redditors to consider Kris’s genitals is like expecting this site to consider if kris is actually “non-binary”
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>>739637951
With Tobi Fox acking himself like the filthy jew that he is
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>>739637951
he'll rip off the end of digital circus, making the game something like an ouroboros
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>>739640136
That being said, last thread and this thread has been our fastest threads in months.
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>>739639006
You're a fedora atheist or smth
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>>739640136
Give it some time. Be the light in the dark and make some quality posts about the game
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>>739638592
>hasnt played OFF, MOTHER
this is the only inexcusable one
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>>739640136
We can always post smut
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>>739640136
Well yeah anon samefag city has to keep the tourists that played the game out.
What if someone makes fun of them for being a bunch of buttmad faggots that spend all day yammering about a game they didn't play in one post and then immediately leaves the thread.
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>>739640258
they're starting to feel like the pre release threads that were happening last year around this time
imo it's a welcome change of pace from the last couple months
surely this means an announcement is near
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>>739639683
Yes, he told me who he was in the stream. A based humanbro
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>>739638889
My gut says it's going to give off a similar vibe to Undertale's neutral endings. We achieve our stated goal, dark worlds are closed for good, the characters end up in a similar place they started, life goes on. Fever dreams are typically pretty bizarre and lack any sort of neat conclusion. They also tend to end abruptly which I hope won't be the case with Deltarune's world
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I think it's kind of ominous that Ferris Wheel has the melody from The Chase in it
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I got into mindbreak smut after Chapter 4 Weird Route
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Hey coming in from the future to spoil the games ending for you.

>to stop the roaring you need to rebalance dark and light
>too many fountains are open so you have to sacrifice all darkners to get things to go back to normal
>its why ralsei puts so much emphasis on not getting too close to them and thinking of them as disposable, he knows this already
>the weird route is a distraction that keeps intrigue up while he developes the game and will ultimately not effect the ending in any way
>there is only one ending regardless of your choices
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>>739640465
Noelle is the knight, it's obvious
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>>739640465
Dess (the creator of chapter 2's dark world" is the knight
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>>739640549
go back to (YOU)r own future idiot, the ending we'll get is much worse
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What other series will toby hack copy? He already did shaman king.
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>no one talks about how Sans is actually important to the plot
>no one connects the dots to realize sans was saving Toriel from stumbling into the church dark world
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>>739640703
Don't say I didn't warn you
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>>739637951
Normal route - Noelle dies. Susie sacrifices herself. Both the light and dark worlds are saved, but...

Weird route - Noelle lives because (You) made her stronger. Dark world is frozen over. Light world is cold. Susie lives, but she's unhappy.

Egg Route - You did the normal route and got all the Eggs from the Man. It wasn't a good idea at all. He was sealed away and forgotten for a reason. Requires Normal and Weird route to be done. Game permanently altered by the Man.

New future route - Man is the new final boss of the normal route. Noelle still dies, but (You) load her save file and revive her. Everyone is saved.
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>>739640726
toriel says she ducked into sans' story by chance due to the rain
he didn't go out of his way to invite her in
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>>739639443
Is this the first rape narratively where only the man performing it didn't want it?
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>>739640726
>>739640770
mmmmmhhh
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>>739640136
Just ignore it and discuss the game
>>739640449
I've seen this idea before and it's not bad. It's kind of like Mother 3's ending where everything ends and what happens next is up to you. Which is what happens with the neutral endings, the ending is the same but what happens next is your fault.
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>>739640763
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>>739640770
sans probably talked her into not going, otherwise she would have just dried up and gone off to church, but sans kept her entertained for so long she invited him back to her place
I believe sans is an investigator or a researcher and he knows about the dark worlds and the shelter and dess
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>>739640341
he has played them however
anons just don't like his opinions on them
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>>739640908
Could be, but Toby is a cunt and keeps him ambiguous, even after everything in Undertale.
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>>739640374
There's still much to wait but we suddenly have a lot of energy. It's really strange, Toby needs to give us news before the energy disappears.
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>>739640726
Maybe during Chapter 1/2 I would've cared.
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>>739640908
pretty bad of toriel to just out and say "FUCK choir practice and FUCK the church" after talking a bit with sans
who does she think she is, andrew cunningham?
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>>739640172
Yeah, redditors are gay and we aren't.
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>>739640978
Wasn't his opinion "undertale/deltarune" did it better, however?
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>>739640897
>Game ends with Gaster talking with you.
There is your one ending.
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>>739640172
iirc the theory was brought up in a way to minimize discussion of what's in kris' boxers, but of course redditors immediately zeroed in on that
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>>739640549
That's a very mild time travel post. Boring.
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>[Toriel] Ah, good morning Kris! I hope that you slept well. I apologize if my merriment kept you awake last night...
>Oh! Your father left a voicemail. Asriel arrived early! He is over at the flower shop now.
>I was about to run over and fetch him, but perhaps you should go in my stead. It will be good for you two to spend some time together before we all go to the festival

>[Susie] Hey Kris! Did you sleep okay?
>What? No I wasn't waiting for you! I was just on my way to uh... the store!
>Huh? Your brother? Cool, let's go, I want to meet him!

This is how chapter 5 will commence. Kris and Susie will go to Flower King to meet with Asriel, only to find that a dark world has been created inside. Some minor exploration will be available in Hometown, but everything south of Flower King will be blocked off as the town sets up for the festival. We won't get to see the festival sadly, as the dark world adventure will take up the entire day. Asriel and Asgore will be major characters in this chapter, with their dark world roles and relationship acting as a parallel to the Knight and whoever the Knight serves, foreshadowing the true big bad of Deltarune, to be revealed in chapter 6.

Also the Knight won't even show up in chapter 5, so get ready for at least another year of schizo theories.
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Kris cunny is real and Dess got to taste it.
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>>739640726
Sans fucking Toriel broke people, I've been saying he saved Toriel since forever.
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>>739641023
>toby doesn't use Sans the exact way the fandom wants
>fandom goes into histrionics about how Toby hates Sans
Reminds me of how people accused sans of "guilt tripping" them.
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>>739641219
>the immense outrage of sans (not) fucking toriel
>the entire fandom was asgorefags all along
I still don't understand.
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>>739640549
Oh that's an interesting take. I see the "dark world get permanently sealed" take a lot, but "dark world is still acessible, but all the darkners you met are gone" is a neat spin on it.
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>>739639234
Ralsei is a Heterosexual Femboy and that's enough to drive tumblr/xer insane.
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>>739641305
ralsei understand that his kingdom needs heirs
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I have a weird obsession with Kris, I hate him for being an annoying little bitch preventing me from getting to the bottom of the Knight conspiracy. But I also find him endearing and charming for being a chaotic troublemaker.
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>>739641141
>Undertale ends with Frisk leaving the underground one way or other
Didn't know Undertale only had one ending
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>>739641175
The festival will happen before the Dark World and Asriel will not be in most of the chapter, he's too important to just show up.
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>>739641273
No that anon has a point, I always thought it was weird that we got this insane ARG celebration with the Spamton Sweepstakes the moment Spamton got some semblance of popularity
Meanwhile, one of the most popular video game characters to exist, Sans, never got anything close to that
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>>739641289
It's more so they're Krisfags and dislike Sans doesn't like Kris.
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>>739641305
Unironically, when they finally fuck, how would Susie handle Ralsei having a big dick?
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>>739641415
Dude, Sans got tons of shit in the anniversary stream. New scenes, new dialogue, a new fight.
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>>739641197
Dess is really lucky to experience prime human cunny.
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>>739641415
>Toby hasn't capitalized on Sans outside of Undertale itself
Bold claim. Very bold. So bold one might say it's a little retarded, in fact.
It sounds to me like people wanted their favorite to be the Face of UnderDeltaTaleRune forever and got insecure at the sight of the wrong character getting attention they figured their favorite deserved.
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>>739638526
i want to have sex with beatrice santello
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>>739640534
Jej
This actually caught me off guard.
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>>739641482
10 years later compared to Spamton's ARG 1 year later, and somehow, Spamton was still somehow forced in.
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Doe pussy will be the death of me
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>femkris artist posted new dr art for the first time in months
everyone around the world can feel it
where is the release, toby?
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>>739640136
I'm pretty sure it's that same guys always complaining that these threads are generals latching onto something to shit up the thread with.
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>>739641690
>uh uh uh doesn't count
shut the fuck up
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>>739641407
The game has been building up Asriel's return from college and alluding to Kris spending the festival with his family, so Asriel barely showing up doesn't make any sense. He's also THE prime candidate for dropping Dess lore to the player, by explaining it to Susie.
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>>739641696
Kris...
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>>739641602
>favorite to be the Face of UnderDeltaTaleRune forever
I mean, don't get me wrong, he is. No matter what Toby does. I just think Toby doesn't particularly like that as much as you think.
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>>739641767
Yes, so I don't see him just showing up and being a side character in 5.
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>>739641761
>no argument
Remember when Spamton literally replaced Sans?
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god i hate everything about sans that isn't him in undertale itself
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coincidences are literally evidence of God
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>>739641751
There was also nice and cute humans in that collection, everyone knows something is hopefully coming.
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>>739641786
I don't think he's the face of the franchise. I think Toby agrees with me. Sans has in no way been "mistreated", he's been treated exactly the way Toby always meant him to be.
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>BRAAAAAAAAAAAAP
That'll be 313k.
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>>739641757
That's just one schizo who thinks these threads are all just one guy samefagging, he even replied to that post bitching.
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>>739641751
Their Kris is pure wife material. They make her look so painfully beautiful...
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>>739641527
Both human and doe cunny. Us UTDR lolicons have much to learn from her.
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>>739641918
>I don't think he's the face of the franchise
if not sans, who else is the face of UT/DR?
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give me your favorite ships NOT involving the main characters (that's fun gang + noelle)
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>>739641962
Fangirls loved the Frans hug
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>>739641962
unironically what did toby mean by this
the whole stream was him baiting with sans until the actual pacifist fight
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How will you react when dess and asriel are never elaborated on and they are just background lore
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>>739637951
Like shit
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>>739642063
Frans used to be huge kek what the hell happened
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>>739642029
I think Sans is easy to use in many contexts and thus gets picked for cross-promotion a lot. Look at what Toby did with the Necrodancer spinoff's "crossover", they're cosplayers. If I had to pick, I'd say Flowey is the face of Undertale. Part of what Deltarune suffers from is the lack of such a "face" entirely.
You are not going to convince me that it is an objective failing on Toby's part to not play into the fandom's delusions about his characters.
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>>739637951
It will be cut short once Toby is outed as a sex pest groomer by an underage fangirl.
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>>739642105
He knows people have gotten attached to Sans as "the important one" just like he knew people would get attached to Papyrus way back when, and he enjoys playing with those expectations just as much as he did when he first made Undertale.
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>>739642132
honestly? both of them are effectively just plot devices already, and adding too many more major characters to the story could potentially dilute focus from our main four
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>>739642132
>asriel
I fuckin wish. Would've been great if I didn't hear anything of that faggot in Deltarune, Sans too.
>dess
wouldn't really feel anything but she's being built up on anyway, very low chance
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>>739642160
It's still huge outside of the west, it's just fandom culture changed and controversial problematic ships like those can't be popular in the west anymore.
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>>739642243
>implying he would go after underage fujoshi fangirls
Kek
Toby dick only penetrates the behinds of vtubers
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>>739642132
no info on asriel is okay.
but no info or closure on dess would be so fucking stupid considering how much considering how much she's been referenced.
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>>739642105
He was baiting fangirls with that hug, it's probably the closest he has ever come to actually shilling Frans so he needed to make it a joke.
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>>739637951
Rough sex with Dess
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>>739642349
Anyone who uses the word problematic unironically needs to get the fucking rope
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>>739642019
Big if true, she's a master at this craft.
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>>739641846
>side character

I was implying him and Asgore to be the main antagonists of chapter 5. Asgore will be the Flower King and Asriel is his knight. Chapter 5 will have a lot of parallels to chapters 1 and 2. Asgore as Flower King, knowingly working towards the roaring, but for a sympathetic reason like King and Queen. Asriel acting as the agent against us, though likely believing it to be a dream, and also not understanding the gravity of his actions, akin to Lancer and Berdly. I'm also predicting that Ralsei will be suspiciously absent this chapter, and Noelle will join as the "healer" instead, meeting up with Kris and Susie on their way to meet Asriel.
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>>739642413
It’s so cute that Kris talks in third-person
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>>739642458
Don't worry I was using it ironically to describe what they feel of the ship
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>>739642169
>Look at what Toby did with the Necrodancer spinoff's "crossover", they're cosplayers
There's a reason for that. In any crossover (Zun, pop n' music, smash etc.) he historically always used Sans, never flowey or anything.
I think if Deltarune could have a "face" outside of sans, Toby is killing the opportunity by using the Lightners in as little merch as possible. Kris/Susie as a duo is easily the most popular excluding sans.
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>>739642132
Would call him a filthy jewish hack fraud.
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>>739642534
I know anon don’t worry, I agree with the stuff about some ships becoming taboo over the years because the fucking normies took over
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>>739642550
>has used sans a million times for jp crossovers
>tells the westoid they can use a cosplay and thats it
HOLY BASED
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Someone post the "You can't unrape the doe, Toby" image already
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>>739642643
You gotta respect Toby’s consistent hatred for anything from the gay western fandom KEK
Sometimes I feel like we’re the only people who understand him
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>>739642550
>In any crossover (Zun, pop n' music, smash etc.) he historically always used Sans,
Because Sans is "unattached" and the other characters are specifically "in Undertale". At least as far as my reading of Toby's particular autism about the use of his characters goes.
>I think if Deltarune could have a "face" outside of sans, Toby is killing the opportunity
And I think that is on purpose, he saw how people used a character's "face" status and decided he didn't want any character subject to that kind of bias in Deltarune. The story feels a tiny bit less clear but also less neat and self contained than Undertale, so it's a trade off I can respect.
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>>739642349
>>739642619
It's a zoomer culture thing. Everyone under the age of 25 gets extremely upset over "age gaps", so the point where they'll have a meltdown over two consenting adults in a relationship because one of them is 25 and the other is 32.
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>>739642643
>>739642550
ironically, despite having megalovania, the skelebros arent even in cosplay here
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>>739641052
The goat threads I’ve seen here would disagree
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>>739642132
The game is going to cut to black the moment asriel opens the door to see Kris.
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>>739642413
Imagine the sex (forma de knight)
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I started listening to old Drake albums and accidentally realized I actually like Drake's music (pic unrelated)
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>>739642924
>What the fuck is goi--
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>>739642924
could be kino
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>>739642928
Noelle is the Knight. Every smart cookie already knows it.
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The funniest possible intro for Chapter 5 would be Sans waking you up with his opening monologue from Genocide
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>>739642897
Goatfags are FAGGOTS, not gay.
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VESSEL
KNIGHT
DARKFUL
FRIGHT
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>>739643036
I'd go one step further, make it initiate an Undertale battle.
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>>739641157
the theory literally revolves on kris being a secret woman and the they/them shit just being “tricky tonys tricks”. Nearly every femkris debate here inevitably devolves into how all the MaleKrisfags act actually wrong and how kris DEFINITELY has a pussy.
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dude who the hell is that
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>>739643139
george
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>>739642132
This would literally make Deltarune one of the worst games ever made and I'm dead serious.
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>>739643139
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>>739642643
Toby hates the filthy gaijin. He's a nipponese by heart
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>>739643139
>Kris, Chara, Frisk
And who the hell is the bigger Chara and red shirt at the console?
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>>739643139
that's my buddy eric
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>>739642132
I hope so. Dess is a missing girl and should stay a myth or dead. Carol is too boring to be a Knight. Noelle being a schizo would be kino, fucking kino.
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>>739642897
Goatfags rarely lust over Ralsei/Asriel on here these days.
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>>739641305
don’t worry they cope by calling ralsei trans
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>>739643139
I think that's supposed to be the Vessel but "colored in" or an interpretation of it
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>>739641305
>Heterosexual
lol
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Guys what is your favorite Kanye album? Mine is Yeezus
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>>739643273
Bigger Chara is probably Vessel while the guy is the youtuber's self insert
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>>739642132
why are people so obsessed with the idea of dess and asriel being nothing characters. Toby didn’t even do that with his last game with Asriel and Chara.
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>>739643536
Why are they doing this. The only analysys video that interest me is about how big chances we have to get to the Krusie ending?
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>>739643497
For me, it's The College Dropout, the BEST Kanye album.
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>>739641305
The notion of hetero/bi femboy triggers trannies and chuds alike
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>>739643260
he's a weeb
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>>739643624
They can't predict it so they get mad about it and deny that it exists at all
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>>739643139
Yeah who the fuck is that yellow guy with the green sweater. I swear the OCs this fanbase makes keep getting more and more ugly
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>>739642132
When dess is just chara?
someone already pointed how similar they worked months ago no?
Asriel is more probably to appear, there is a lot of bait for interactions of him with everyone
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Toby has been teasing his dream game for almost 15 years. It's all Deltarune, it's always been Deltarune. It's crazy, if I was in his position I would have gone insane.
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>>739642132
4 chapters in and it's still impossible to prove that Dess isn't simply at college like Asriel. Theoryfags will scream and cry and point to their jewtubers and corkboards, but the only real in-game evidence (no, ARGs and unused content don't fucking count) is that Dess isn't present and that Noelle got tripped up during a spelling bee. Both older siblings will probably show up briefly during the festival and then fuck off for the rest of the game.
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>>739643624
People are too into the tricky tony epic subversion and just want him to subvert everything.
>>739643661
Yes and we love him for that.
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>>739643641
>that pic
kekked hard
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>>739643784
Toby is a man of passion. He will succeed all expectations unlike Goosworx
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>>739643838
but is he a man of the pippis?
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>>739643838
>activate ultra instinct to dodge South America leaking his game early
How the fuck is he this based? Everything he does in the games i like, like there hasn't been a single piece of writing in Undertale or Deltarune that made me hate him beside Suselle and Soriel but i think this is intentional to make us bothered.
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>>739643808
>it's still impossible to prove that Dess isn't simply at college like Asriel
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>>739643819
My unpopular opinion is that his art is very anime like and why it looks good despite his inability to draw
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>>739642550
the reason he won't use the lightners as merch is because some fucked up shit will happen
see: people selling their TADC collections after watching the finale
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>>739643808
>it's impossible to prove
Nigger what? Are you high? This is a small enough town that everyone sent off to college is an event, and nobody has mentioned her. Dess's room is completely full of things that seem to be her latest interests rather than a bunch of assorted memorabilia and other stuff not worth taking to college like Asriel's.
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>>739643978
There's nothing wrong with Soriel, as for Suselle...
>The BIG moment for Susie and Noelle was foreshadowed by them talking about how good Kris is at flirting
kek, this was a total middle finger to the suselle troons and no one picked up on it, he's purposefully baiting them with candy and then pulling it away
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What if Noelle raped Dess?
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>>739643808
Noelle's searches for december holiday
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>>739643497
TLOP
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>>739642526
THERE ARE TWO KRIS’S
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>>739643741
I never saw why people say Chara and Dess are similar, outside of both being close to Temmie they aren't super alike.
>>739644041
I always saw Toby's art looking more like cartoons, but beta Noelle does look anime so I can see where you see the anime. Temmie is more anime-esque for me.
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>>739643497
The Life of Pablo
But yeezus is elite taste lad
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>>739643808
are you fucking around? noelle fumbled a spelling bee because dess went to college?
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>>739638797
Sniffff
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>>739644326
Those who pretend the game is all mystery box and no answers are not known for their intelligence.
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>>739644210
Soriel is obviously a problem for Kris as it tearing his family apart. I don't think it was meant to be shown as positive or wholesome that his mom hooked up with a new shop clerk. Suselle is more in between the bait red herring ship and actual UndynexAlphys fan service meant to be an honest romance.
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>>739643978
The shitty romance writing is so disappointing to me and not just Suselle but the corny Burgerpants trash. I wish there was a world where Deltarune wasn't tainted by shipshit
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>>739638356
>The game sucks and you faggots will slurp up whatever goy juice Toby pisses out
Anon if the game sucks then why dont you give us a better example of a better game that fun and not shit ?
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>>739644210
This moment also ends with Noelle saying Kris friendship is forced unlike their ferris wheel ride though.
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>>739638621
>noelle knight
Not as wildly accepted as Dess, Rudy or even Carol but still nowhere near as funny as Papyrus knight. Still have seen people honestly discuss it outside of here
>femkris
You and I know EXACTLY why it’ll never be taken seriously
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>this is what /v/ee is unironically praying to happen during chapter 5
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>>739644445
Noelle is obviously just coping with the fact Kris grew distant from her after Dess's disappearance. If Dess didn't secretly have a crush on Kris then she wouldn't have so easily fell in love with him in the Weird Route despite us using Kris to abuse her.
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>>739644302
In design, background and personality, they have nothing in common.
But they exist in the same role, the story is centered around them, both are close to the goat star of the show, they are a reliable-unreliable figure and they barely appear in game despite that.
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>>739644527
I would hope so, same with pizzapants and nice cream guy
But nope it will be played straight (heh) for better or worse
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>>739644527
oh anon it's gonna be so much worse
The Ferris Wheel scene Susellefags have been hyping up for YEARS won't happen because either Susie will be arrested for wreaking havoc in the church, or she'll sneak out to break into Noelle's house while she's away.
The shitstorm will be fucking huge.
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>>739644527
>>this is what /v/ee is unironically praying to happen during chapter 5
I really dont care much about romance i just hope that chapter 5 will be able to explore more of kris past and asgore past since i know that the dess stuff will only be fully explored on chapter 6 and 7.
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>>739644445
You know damn well Noelle is coping hard about how close she and Kris were, as well as presenting herself as available for Susie
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>>739644527
Yes but I know that too much damage is already done to walk back this dogshit romance
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>>739644527
It can happen, because Kris will be never confirmed as a male, but he will remain male in our minds. So technically Toby is making Krusie an alternate yuri pairing to oppose Suselle which is a fair game and we can translate it into a straight hmofa with a tomboy.
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>>739638341
basically this dude is retarded and just lets all his dumb thoughts spill out into the internet with no moderation, many such cases
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An example of Toby respecting his audience's intelligence too much is how he uses this scene of Tenna reminiscing about the holidays to illustrate the collapse of the families' relationship after Dess disappeared by having people vanish one-by-one in a particular order that gives you an idea of how that played out (eg. Rudy is notably the last to leave even after Asgore, hinting that he's personally friends with Toriel independently of their connection through Asgore or Noelle's friendship with Kris, which is affirmed in Chapter 4)
But autistic contrarians will deny that this very clear imagery means anything at all if it gets in the way of their assumptions and pet theories, everything has to be directly spelled out to them (sometimes even that's not enough)
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>>739644302
At 2015 tobby had made a boy as mc and temmie a girl, it was fun how dissonant it is and still works
as for art style it looks off when someone tries to make it cartoon like like the style of the artist instead of what it feels like, pic related feels like anime, even the weird ass "official art" of fangamer is not exactly cartoons

>>739644527
oh the date is fated to end in drama, if not the plot stales, i just hope is good drama
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>>739638065
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TrrPvz6nHI
ive been trying to watch this video for like 3 days and it's been a real struggle. this guy cannot go 10 seconds without saying something dumb as fuck
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>>739644212
>what if [canon]
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>>739644748
What pet theories exactly is this contradicting? I agree DT fans are (for the most part) fucking retards but I don't understand your line of thinking
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>>739644776
>saying something dumb as fuck
such as...?
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>>739644527
BRAVO!
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>>739644773
>oh the date is fated to end in drama

Only because of misunderstanding bullshit or her mother or someone else getting in the way because poor Susie is just so great. Expect the most cliche romance writing and that's what you're going to get
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>>739638905
wasn't the stain confirmed to be unrelated to the soul? I remember hearing something about that.
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>>739640897
>toby spoiling what would be the biggest twist of the game
come on anon, you dont really believe that do you?
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>>739644851
Nothing. He's COMPLETELY right and the butthurt faggots here feel called out.
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>>739644905
>poor Susie is just so great
She will brush off noelle either out of incompetence or because she will continue to badmouth kris
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>>739644845
I've had I think a RudyKnighter deny that Rudy being the last to leave meant anything when I pointed to it as evidence that Rudy stayed close to the family which justifies his comment about the "Handwashing marathon."
The line wasn't a secret hint implying that Rudy knew about the stunt Kris was going to pull in Chapter 2 (which is certain since he'll say the same thing if you visit in Chapter 4), he just knows that Kris compulsively washes their hands because he's like Kris's uncle.
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>>739644553
I always felt Dess was more similar to Asriel’s role in Undertale with the Knight being her Chara. I don't think there's anyone who mirrors Chara yet
>>739644773
Yeah, beta Frisk draw by Temmie is just an Asian girl versus Toby making a boy, the better artist interpretation won. I agree that anime art looks more official, probably because how much of a weeb he is. That picture you posted is official?
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>>739644942
No, we don't get any information about it at all beyond "It's stained." until Susie finally confirms that it was a "giant bloodstain" in Chapter 4.
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>>739644527
This will never happen. Toby might have Susie get with Kris hell she might even get with Ralsei but there is no universe where Toby has the balls to directly deconfirm suselle lest he enrage the yuritards he’s cultivated as well as the krusiefags who’ve gaslit themselves into calling their ship “yuri”
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>>739644946
Sure I do. His schizo fever dream ending is the reason deltarune even exists, I doubt something so crucial would be scrapped. Besides, there is something more important than reaching the end.
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>>739644851
Everything. He's COMPLETELY wrong and the butthurt faggots here feel called out.
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>>739644905
>noooo why doesn't Susie grow a random negative trait for Noelle to suddenly object to???
Your hypothetical "better drama" sounds like ass.
>but why doesn't Susie have negative traits???
She's a dumbass who can't parse the plot unless it's explained to her and even then gets shit wrong. I don't give a shit if she hasn't been punished "hard enough" for that yet, it's a giant honking flaw that retards like you pretend doesn't exist because what you actually want is an objective reason that this character deserves less attention.
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>>739645157
its from one of the great drawfrens that used to post.... i think years ago already
tobby's official art is just doodles, good doodles, but doodles
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>Noelle
Perky, beautiful pale pink nipples. A to B cup
>Carol
Fine-aged, chocolate nipples. B cup
>Toriel
Gorgeous, delicate, motherly breasts, dusty rosé nipples. G cup
>Dess
Perky, delicious, chestnut colored nipples. B cup
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>>739645098
based and true.
I don't even get how Rudy Knighters exist, at least Noelle Knight, as schizo as it sounds, is interesting narratively.
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Every Deltarune character is bisexual until proven otherwise (and Toby never will)
Toby wants people to play with his dolls and he avoids infringing on that as much as possible
He even put a "tutorial for 'team relationships'" in Chapter 3 so people know they don't even have to pick one team
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>that image
more like Ralsei is a pushover baby bitch faggot and I hate him like I hate all faggots
and fuck off to tourist you fucking offboarder cunt
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>>739645157
For my head, Kris works like asriel/flowey
An "i'm your enemy" presentation at the end of the opening part, to then progress the story mostly silently (unless you know where to look flowey is always peeking, kris is always meddling), and have his attitude change when we break the game.
i still bet for now, that asriel will appear on the end of the actual good ending.
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>>739645506
Something troubling you big guy?
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>>739644326
It would be really funny
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>>739645580
Meds are expensive so a lot of people here skip them
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>>739645263
>She's a dumbass who can't parse the plot unless it's explained to her and even then gets shit wrong.

That's not a real negative trait by Toby's standards
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Toss your hats in the ring lads post Chapter 5 predictions (again)
>Sans will be important in Chapter 5
>We will retrieve the code
>Asgore's corkboard on the Dess disappearance will turn into the egg room
>The TwistedSwd will be important to defy the prophecy (If you beat Spamton, I imagine he'll hand the ThornRing to you)
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>>739645314
I see. I thought you were using it as an example. That's a good drawfag art, didn't remember it.
>>739645549
Kris does have the same "enemy" vibes as Flowey, yeah. I said Dess was like Asriel because she's the super important "dead" child that gets turned into a monster. Kris is still here and alive. Asriel himself will show up normally in the big climax, to much build up not to.
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>>739643808
>be Dess
>leave for college when sister is 8
>still there when she’s 16
What the fuck is she even going to college for that would take that long?
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Creating a network of cringe headcannon and theories based on vague dialog and in-game flavor text is typically reserved for stories that are actually finished. "The lines connect too well" and "There can be no other explanation" mean nothing when nearly half of plot has yet to be revealed. Toby isn't spacing chapters out so you can unravel his elaborate mystery puzzle, it just takes time to make the game. A detail being intentional and important does not mean that it's "irrefutable proof" of a greater, future plot point. You aren't as smart as you think you are.
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What the fuck are you guys even talking about
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>>739645967
you must be new
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>>739645232
the one ending is either a superficial blanket that can easily be applied to all conditions like "and then the world ended", toby's fever dream could've very well been multiple paths all meeting the same fate.
or the "other ending" routes arent technically endings, like snowgrave softlocking and potentially even being mandatory for the true ending (thus making it not an end by definition)
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>>739643528
>pic
I guarantee you noelle would go feral if she realized she got cucked by a twink that isn’t even real
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Alright, which one of you is this
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>>739645804
Then what is a "real" negative trait by Toby's standards?
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>>739645890
>the super important "dead" child that gets turned into a monster
huh... in a sense both asriel and chara pass trough the same development given the correct circumstances
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gb2r
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>>739646105
being a husband in a regular marriage
something bad will happen to you no matter what
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>>739646105
Being a weak pussy like Asgore, Noelle, Ralsei, and Berdly
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>>739638730
>He's right though, coincidences don't exist in (good) stories created with intent.
yes they do. In fact, coincidences can be a very good supporting mechanic to a plot. Remember stories are stories.
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>>739645859
I already tried that with >>739641175 but these niggers only want to talk about kiddy diddling, skeleton cucking and deer pussy. Hope you have better luck than I did.
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>>739646298
>implying posting about doe pussy isn't fun
cam on anon I love speculating and discussing the game but you can't deny doeposting is fun
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>>739646071
she already starts wigging out when susie starts talking about him in ch4
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>>739646105
You can't satisfy these people because they think a "flawed character" is expressed by the narrative identifying them as a bad person and punishing them for their behavior, which has never been how Toby writes anything
Asgore "Six human kids six hundred feet underground" Dreemurr is a murderer and warlord who gets off scot-free with mild humiliation and saying he felt really bad about doing it
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>>739646298
I literally replied to you.
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Ok but who is gayer?
Asriel or Ralsie?
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>>739640897
>Normal Route softlocks due to Susie resetting the timeline after getting the SOUL or something
>Weird Route softlocks from Noelle freezing everything or breaking the game itself.
>Complete both, get all Eggs/Shadow Crystals to unlock the true route allowing you to reach the games one(1) ending.
If the game has one ending but multiple routes then obviously all routes need to be walked to see the ending.
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>>739637951
Remember temmie Chang schizo?
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>>739646631
I say that every time and every time someone is
>Noooo Tobias would never make you hurt le innocent heckerinos the weird route is not mandatory, cannot be!
Bitch, then why did he add it in the first place? Did it just sprout out of nowhere?
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>>739646510
>expressed by the narrative identifying them as a bad person and punishing them for their behavior

That's how stories work, yes
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*taps sign*
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>>739646748
There is also the full "Reverse Undertale" option where somehow the Weird Route gets you the good end and Pacifist/Normal gives you the bad one.
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>>739645859
>We won't get the code in the normal route (Ralsei will bring us to the bunker through his travel shenanigans the chapter after)
>Kris already knows the codes, and we will force him and Noelle in the weird route for an early ending
>Noelle will confess her love to Susie at the festival
>On the weird route, Susie gets pissed at Kris for spending more time with Noelle and confide in Ralsei, falling in love with him (love will always find its way to the girl)
>Asgore is going to reveal there's 3 Knights. Him, Carol, and Rudy.
>Carol was the knight you met in Chapter 3. She was late because her job as mayor held her up.
>Rudy was the knight you met in Chapter 4. Rudy was casing out the Church to find a good place to set off a fountain.
>Asgore reveals he is the third Knight. He will reveal the Knight's plans, but something will stop him from revealing a key detail.
I woin't care if I'm wrong, but narratively some of these things just feel like they make sense. The harem Susie is building is too obvious to ignore, and it basically locks her in as The Girl if it's to be believed the prophecy will not change, even on the weird route.
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>>739645890
this is the most crusty femfrisk image i have ever seen. 10/10
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>>739646631
Toby already confirmed you won't need to play on all 3 save files to reach the end
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>>739646568
Ralsei is 100% gayer
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>>739646854
Kris...it's almost like we're in some kind of Everhood...
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>>739646419
Sorry, I'm not a /k/ommando. Anyway have some shotgunned hopes/predictions with 0 forethought for chapter 5.

>Ralsei imposter
>Asgore is from the Undertale timeline
>Big onionsan reveal
>Lancer is a real character again
>Asriel was dead all along
>Kris use to live with the Holidays
>More classmates in the dark world
>Toriel is the knight
>Papyrus is also the knight
>Susie learns how to read

I'm sure if I dig deep enough I can find evidence for at least one or two of these things. Post yours so this thread can stop sucking so much shit!
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>>739646568
This is tough, Asriel has canonically kissed girls but never had a girlfriend, and can't be separated from the context of his repressive religious upbringing. The Angel only knows what he's doing in college, unsupervised for the first time in his life.
Ralsei is very close and flirty with Kris but equally flirty with Susie and gets tons of attention from available girls and women. He seems open to intimacy with Kris, Susie, or both at the same time equally.
I think the only solution here is for them to aggressively rub their dicks together and whoever cums first loses.
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>>739646856
>Susie gets pissed at Kris for spending more time with Noelle and confide in Ralsei
More like Susie will get jealous lol of Kris (whom she has a crush on) spending time with another girl
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>>739646253
>coincidences can be a very good supporting mechanic to a plot.
If a coincidence happens to advance the plot, it's not a coincidence. It's a plot point. It was intentionally placed there by the author. Coincidences only happen in real life because there is no author, and that's what andrew was sperging about.
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>>739640342
sure why not
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>>739646904
You could do it on one save if the item you get persists, you will just need to reset
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>>739646904
One, source, because I have seen nothing about him saying that and he tends to not say jack shit about how the story will go.
Also, Two, why did he add distinct differences between the files then.
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>>739647018
Also possible, it's ultimately just a pathway to her confiding in her only remaining friend. That one scene of Susie clearly agonising over how Kris and Noelle basically left her alone without consulting her is meant to be showing the rift that's forming between them both.
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>>739646815
Stories written for actual toddlers, maybe? Not every bad trait has to be individually identified and shamed for the writing to be letting you know it's a bad trait.
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>>739646929
>Ralsei imposter
plausible
>Asgore is from the Undertale timeline
fuck no
>Big onionsan reveal
nope
>Lancer is a real character again
I would LOVE that but I don't think it'll happen
>Asriel was dead all along
HELL no
>Kris use to live with the Holidays
That's actually interesting and would make sense (You are welcome here any time)
>More classmates in the dark world
Don't see why Toby would do that
>Toriel is the knight
that's somehow more crackpot than Noelle Knight
>Papyrus is also the knight
WHAT
>Susie learns how to read
Ok now you're just insane
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>>739646568
Ralsei gets pressured into being gay but asriel takes college jock cock for the love of the game
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>>739647086
The source is in a twitter he posted a few months ago before ch 3 and 4 during the gamemaker update testing (completely killed any theories based on save file manipulation)
Though the shadow crystals already persist between save files, so there is precedent that you could get an item that let's you access new content in old chapters if it stays with you in the same way
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>>739647178
>onion
pour one out for a real one
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>>739647146
Susie becoming so depressed she doesn't even fight Kris, she just leaves quietly after discovering he is working for the Knight is gonna break my fucking heart.
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>>739647107
My Undertale days are over. I wouldn't plap her.
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>>739647215
DR!Azzy is a top
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>>739647174
Understanding an author's value system is important
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>>739646108
That isn't wrong. Chara does become a monster like death and the Knight does fight like a Chara fangame. Maybe they do have more in common than I think.
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>>739637951
Homestuck 2 but somehow even worse
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>It's entirely possible that Ch 5 comes out next week
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>>739647427
But enough about the epilogues
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>>739647396
Now that I think about it, Chara would probably draw something like the Knight as her self-insert OC.
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>>739647107
fish and spider
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>>739647497
It's not but it's fun to dream
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>>739647352
That'll fuck my shit up too, I hate the thought of making her feel abandoned like that.
There is a chance there'll be a Kris & Noelle vs Susie & Ralsei fight though. We already fought Susie before with Lancer in Chapter 1, and she showed good prowess at doing team attacks with him. It'd basically be a mirror match between two Physical attacks and 2 Mages with a strange imbalance, because Susie will also know how to heal. It honestly has the potential to be kino.
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>>739647086
Keep in mind. Toby buckled and added save files in the overworld in ch4 because the normie testers couldn't be bothered to go save at Castle Town despite it fucking up the lore. Do you really think he's going to force you to 100% the game to get a proper ending?
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>>739642039
here's how madgore can still win
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>>739647221
I mean yeah? You'd do it and it'd unlock shit. Same thing as how Genocide altered the pacifist ending in UT.
Honestly though my guess is Weird Route will not necessarily be *required* for the true ending, but will make it drastically easier or at least reasonably doable, like Shadow Mantle for the Knight Fight.
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>>739647358
gay
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>>739647562
>he said, posting the character that "dreamt" about snowgraving Cyber City
>fun
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>>739647637
You can't just post a half-naked female and expect me to go at it like a teenager.
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>>739647393
And you can do that through much more than watching which characters the story "punishes".
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>>739645859
>Festival happens at the start
>Dark World after
>Ralsei will leave the party temporarily
>Golden Flower main boss
>Blue Soul returns
>Knight will not show up in the Dark World
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>>739641415
beware buddy, you are posting on toby fox cock sucking general, you can't ever ever ever criticize anything or else you're the big dumb
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>>739647718
If you're not gooning what are you doing here? Don't pretend its for the theories you've heard a million times already
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>>739647718
how does this make you feel then?
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>>739646568
Ralsei, Asriel isn't really that gay outside of fanon and GOHD
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>>739647721
Toby never indicates that Susie being dumb is bad the same way he highlights Ralsei's flaws
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>>739647821
It's superior to fapping material since it targets the soul/heart and not the dick.
Ultimately I'm more interested in the family life than whatever sex made it real, so the point is moot.
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>>739646929
>>739647178
>Rudy wasn't just being cute, Kris' full name is actually Krismas
>the 1225 code references Kris rather than Dess
>Dess will be connected to the church code instead
>Dess is the angel, but her role is being usurped, forcing her to act as the Knight instead
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>>739647592
I would rather team up with Susie and Ralsei and beat the shit out of Kris. I can't stand the thought of Susie feeling like her entire arc of regaining her hope and the love that years of isolation couldn't destroy was for NOTHING.
It's breaking my heart just thinking about it, I'd cry like a bitch
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>>739647892
Failure to understand something that the player understands is negative. Toby highlights that Susie has somehow failed to understand something every player was expected to repeatedly. Sometimes it's just a joke, is that your issue?
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>>739647892
The game bends over backwards to validate Susie, however there's some vague hope that Susie is being strung along by various in universe elements so I can't conclude this is bad writing yet.
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Deltarune is a videogame that asriel is making
And dess fucked asgore
Bye
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>>739648203
>Dess fucked Asgore
a daring synthesis
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>>739648203
go back to work tobby fox
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I do hope using Noelle as a Vessel happens. I think it genuinely might, we never saw a real monster with a human soul back in Undertale, and Deltarune is doing a lot that Undertale never did. Also, ya know "Love finds its way to the Girl"
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>>739638065
So *that's* why he disregarded Hell so thoroughly in his Iconography video, despite Gaster making it super important.
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>>739648180
The game doesn't feel like it goes particularly out of its way for Susie to me. She doesn't defy the game or the way it's "supposed" to go, she defies the way a cynical and formulaic mind would expect the game to go.
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>>739648179
Noelle being "smart" is unironically a worthless trait
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>>739638905
Regular removals to let the knight out of the Dark World
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>>739648293
I wouldn't bet on it, we're never playing as a monster in his games.
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>>739648568
Thankfully, that's what AU fangames are for.
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>>739646854
Reverse Undertale theory is about rhymes, not Deltarune being the opposite of Undertale.
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>>739644604
>Susie will be arrested
does he know?
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>>739640342
I love lewd.
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>>739640342
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>>739643641
Love all of these types of images. Do you have the comic where the knight comes back exhausted to an excited Gaster who says "dude those kids kicked your fucking ass!"
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>>739647215
I don't get gay art traced over actual girls
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Every Undertale character in Deltarune is like a bitter meanspirited version of themselves
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some fish as well
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Kris probably didn't even impregnate Noelle.
He probably used her asshole like a bitch
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>>739649019
just getting the undyne dump out of the way
https://mega.nz/folder/WDwh2DrI#wMjMIo2kf7Jyn-j6fRC0ug
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>>739645859
Chapter 5 will be the "last hurrah" to early Deltarune

>main boss is a darkner villain with a unique personality
>various flower darkners
>schizo boss in jevil's mold, the unseen red flower
>at least three distinct overworld areas
>some other lightner tagging along, probably asgore
>egg room is actually very simple
>papyrus finally shows up
>berdly date
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>>739649270
>daughter that looks exactly like the mother
every time
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>>739642132
I'd wonder what the multiple mandatory "Here's a minute-long talk about Dess" sequences were about.
Asriel's got none of these sequences, so I don’t really care if he appears or not. Though I do at least hope we grt confirmation he's alive so that we can sink Jaru for good.
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>>739648942
i thought the light brown hair highlights were fart stink lines
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>>739649450
Too much time on 4chan man...
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>>739638621
I don't frequent these threads, and I only lurk in them once in awhile, but I remember some e-celeb making a video about 2nd hero kris that was posted in one a these threads a few months back
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>>739649450
Maybe you got a secret scat fetish
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>>739648960
I do
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>>739649525
that was made by the same guy who's been pushing femkris here and the comments are... exactly what you'd expect them to be
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>>739649654
I played chapter 3 four times so you might be correct
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>>739649450
i'm sorry anon but i'm afraid your online status is terminal
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>>739647547
Make it look less deer like and more demon like and it would be something she would make, yeah.
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>>739646904
You don't need all three to do that, anon.
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>>739649040
Maybe she likes that
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>>739649847
Who cares what she likes
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I'm pretty sure some theorist already made a video about the thematic connections of water in Deltarune. Andrew's video is rehashed information.
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>>739649985
She'd get wet from hearing that I'm sure
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>>739649836
You would still need to play through the game 3 times so might as well use the 3 save slots. Either way, Toby is not going to jebait normies with a nothingburger ending then force them to 100% the game to get the true ending
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>>739649985
Me. I do. I want to give this girl 12 Days of Dickmas.
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>>739643425
>Frisk blushes when in Chara's clothes
>Vessel blushes in Kris's clothes
>Kris blushes in... Chara's clothes
they're probably just embarrassed cause its clothes they wore as a kid
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funny how the ch4 snowgrave ending scene with the red dot is the closest thing we have to a cliffhanger now
like, we don't even have anything to get a rugpull from unlike the previous releases
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>>739649040
>Anally rape doe
>She still gets pregnant
Bros.... we're too powerful....
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>>739637951
i love Yoshitura Yamamoto cause you can tell her really wants to footfuck Ralsei
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>>739649987
Darkness was connected to water when you played the game on Halloween 2018 and learned about "dark fountains" and "geysers" and saw "IMAGE_DEPTHS" and heard the sound of the ocean when you fell into the Dark World.
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>>739650030
She's such a freak
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>>739645905
Medschool
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>>739650236
>blacklisted himself on e621
>art is on 0 boorus
>twitter is from 2015 but first art post is from 2023
>no previous art properly archived
this guy was a FREAK and GOT AWAY WITH IT
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>>739647298
Don’t worry. She’s alive.

How do I know Onionsan is a girl? Well, This is Toby Fox with a REAL chapter 5 leak. In chapter 5, (YOU) will go to the festival with Onion San/Onionsan (who is confirmed in this chapter to be a girl) instead of Berdly. The reason why chapter 5 hasn’t released yet is because me and Temmie are busy thinking about how big we should make Onion, especially for her stomach (she’s a bbw. That’s the reason I gave her the nickname hippopotamus). The reason why Onion calls herself a “good boy” if named Asriel 2 is because she is so unintelligent to the point of not remembering that she is a girl (or any gender at all). A good quarter of the festival will be with you and onionsan, who the reason why she can walk is because of (YOU) accidentally feeding her a slice-of-life manga and shrinking her self to be twice the size of Kris. Onion anlso returns for reasons I cannot leak. Onion will also be voiced acted in chapter 5 by surprise guest actress (that is Japan exclusive, of course). The reason why Kris isn’t included in this post is because Kris will be with Susie and Krusie will be canon. This is a reward for defending me during my ongoing controversy. That is all I have to share.

P.S. (YOU) will also piggyback ride Onionsan in a scene.

P.P.S. I’m feeling great right now. I think I have a chapter 6 leak too. (YOU), as the vessel, and Onionsan treverse the inside of the bunker. (YOU) will also let Onionsan eat the titan spawn that live down there, which introduces titan meat as an edible item that heals you and your party.
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>>739650236
I think it's funny that he's repeatedly made public statements that he Totally Doesn't Want To Fuck Ralsei
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>>739638168
leftover from the turd entity concept when his sister dess went on nightly strolls
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>>739638130
>Let's discuss the game
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>>739647592
Mantle foreshadows that, too. Kris vs Susie and Ralsei
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lollllll ur still playin deltarune play fucking cyberdelia micro its not trans slop
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>>739649525
that was probably the bong's video
there is one for each, the bong's femkris video and the hour long noelle knight thesis
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>>739650230
This is how monsterfucking works in Undertale
Just like how killing intent hurts them, if you want to fuck them hard enough anything is possible
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>>739649753
Maybe he can get it cured one day and see asses normally
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>>739650448
>Me? NEVER I could never bring myself to fuck this fluffyboy!
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>>739647352
>Susie becoming so depressed she doesn't even fight Kris
>Susie becoming so depressed she can only glare at Kris coldly
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>>739649525
It was by one of the FemKrisfags here, yeah.
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>>739650713
moar
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>>739650713
Asriel tapped that.
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>>739650713
Asgore tapped that.
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>>739650097
Damn, I've been posting fhat a lot and I didn't notice that Charisk/Kressel detail. Kris probably did wear clothes like Chara's when he was younger, that's very likely.
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>>739650783
That's the only ass related one from that artist.
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>>739650971
goddammit.
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>>739645019
trying your best to create a narrative that hes hated for anything other than being a fedora-tipping reddit faggot is funny, keep saying it
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Tobys going to have so much fun when localizating Dess to Japanese and having all her sentences end in -desu
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>>739651004
There's some SFW pics from them if you want
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>>739646748
In Undertale you can do the Genocide route but it's not mandatory. In Deltarune it's a similar deal, you CAN do it, but it's not required to get an actual ending.
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>Monster Kid was male in pre-release Undertale
What? I was sure she was a girl.
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>>739651361
i'll take it
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>>739651376
DR only has one ending though
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>>739648062
>grinning like a madanon when re-equipping the thornring
>Laughs like a crazy person during the trashcan kicking scene
>Thinking about more devious things to do to Kris in the remainder of the chapter
>Susie's sad smile rocked my heart especially when I used to dislike her during the chapter 1 days
>Susie is the only one aside from (you) trying to avert the prophecy. kinship between two friends
>Probably gonna have to fight her during the weird route when we get the vessel back with Noelle by our side
>Feels bad man
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>>739651441
Yes, and you can do all the routes you want, it will still bring you to that ending.
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>>739651439
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>>739651331
>nip dess just ends all her sentences with her name because it sounds the same as desu
holy autism
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>>739651424
Only Napstablook was a he/him, I think kid was always a they/them
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>>739651439
>Oh no!
>How scary!
>You wouldn't take THAT home
>Would you?
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>>739651331
kek that would be worth the extra time
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>>739649697
Thanks Anon, there was another version with a panel of the knight entering but the panel you posted is all I cared about lel
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>>739651580
Humans are scary...
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>>739651331
Kino and unironically based
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>>739651331
Wouldn't that be too "polite" sounding for a girl like Dess?
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>>739651695
what a noelle thing to say
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>>739651451
Susie is probably the most universally beloved character in Deltarune ever since everyone turned on Sans for being a homewrecker.
And I think that's intentional, Toby Fox WANTS you to care and love Susie because the moment we crush her heart discovering Kris is working for the Knight, her departure and her sadness will be that much more impactful.
Gosh I'm tearing up just thinking about her being sad, I love Susie so much bros
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>>739651579
the earliest versions of the artbook referred to both MK and Napstablook as a he.
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>>739651781
I wonder if all humans would scare her, if Kris broke her that badly.
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>>739651836
The art book I know, I was talking about the 2014 Undertale version.
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Are you telling me this is a man?
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>>739651331
>>739651546
"December" in Japanese is ディセンバ ("Dee-sen-ba"), so "Dess" in Japanese is ディセ ("Dise," "dee-say," like Rise from Persona 4)
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>>739651993
Hey, if a Dio expy can become an anime catgirl...
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Let's settle the score.
https://poal.me/ux3ukh
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>>739651993
i've seen Catholics do gayer shit
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>IP grabbing link
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>>739651887
surely, chara also liked to mess with asriel and frisk is playful so she would join in
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>>739651993
Two bros hanging out together.
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>>739652203
>Susie winning
Doefags really are just a loud bunch
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>>739652345
Poor doe. She chose a hard life with all those trying to scare her. Thankfully she likes it.
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>>739652401
everyone likes noelle but everyone loves susie
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Spamton does make the "desu -> DEATH" pun in Japanese though

>>739652401
I'm not voting on your gay poll
A queen rules by her own power
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>>739652401
Doefags are trying to avoid their IP being stolen.
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>>739652203
>no muffet
>a SINGLE darkner option
you guys are fucking gay
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>>739652598
tasque manager is not a character
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>>739652401
i don't care enough to vote
>You replied!!!
yeah... and?
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>>739652635
elnina you faggot
>tasque manager is not a character
and I'll forever hate toby for this
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>>739652528
too bad people aren't that interested in expanding the idea of noelle interacting with them too
my head is not good for slice of life kind of thing so is just a bunch of random thoughts
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>>739652534
Is she the most beloved character Toby ever wrote? I think Lancer is a serious contender for most the most beloved character title
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>>739643784
>his dream is just another spin on Omoris story
Grim.
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>>739652736
fucking die you piece of shit
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>>739652635
>tasque manager is not a character
She's into femdom and petplay what more do you want
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She's so cute
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>>739652558
>"desu -> DEATH" pun
I thought that was little more than an Umineko reference
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Susie is canonically hideous.
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>>739652826
nta but
>one
>just ONE new line of dialogue from her after 3 years
and that was too much to ask
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>>739652736
everyone likes lancer too but susie is effectively everyone's tomboyish daughteru
it's a very powerful archetype toby invoked
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Imagine her blushing if you get too close to her
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i'm blaming you faggots if susie hogs up half of the screen time in a chapter AGAIN
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>>739652890
she's a little dirty but she cleans up real nice
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>>739652807
he is THE everyone likes him, no one loves him.
popular, yet not the fave
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>>739638065
>Andrew is a fedora atheist
And here I thought he was a cool guy for the Gaster leimotif video he made
My fault for caring about theorists that aren't Matpat
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>>739637951
>How is DELTARUNE going to end?
with noelle being kris' wife
all other endings will be false and non-canon including the ones toby makes
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>>739653010
>play game
>get mad that the main character is in it
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>>739645921
These asset reusing gamemaker tier 3 hour long games dont take +9 years to complete
Dicksucker
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>>739653024
nips are tasteful doing large women
what are we missing in this side of the planet?
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>>739653064
TRUTH FOUNTAIN
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>>739653072
Frisk stays quiet and let's me enjoy my time with the monsters. Susie can't go a single chapter without being the center of the attention no matter how many darkners are there.
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>>739653064
ah yes
DV
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>>739653024
Bro all her teeth are rotten.
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>>739652826
Penis
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>>739653291
dingaling
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>>739652734
Yeah, most SOL is just KFC so we barely get the Undertale kiddos interaction with the Delta cast. A shame.
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Never lose sight of what's important
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>>739653143
West=Fallen
East=Not fallen
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>>739653194
The point of these games has sailed completely over your head.
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>>739653449
what are we? but flesh bags designed to reproduce

>>739653475
all the?-
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>bump limit already
>like 5 hours after the previous one
>6 months after we discussed everything to death
Something big is coming and everyone feels it
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>>739653485
shut the fuck up pointfag
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>>739653764
something [BIG] indeed...
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>>739653485
What's the point, that Susie is the best thing to ever exist? Sorry but I don't find that interesting. Luckily Toby added the weird route so, good chance there's gonna be a good opportunity to make Susie suffer, which will be fun.
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>>739653061
>Matpat
Why was he out of everyone that drove Toby into having one of the few of his public shit flinging incidents?
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>>739653764
The only thing coming is a big disappointment when we reach the Deltarune anniversary and it's still nothing but crickets
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>>739653931
Keep trying to guess, lmao. So long as you stay so focused on what characters are "winning" and "losing" you'll never come close.
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How important is the stuff outside of the game itself? Spamton Sweepstakes and things like that.
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>>739654005
If the point of the game is do obtuse that I can't find it, then I don't really care about, as long as the weird route keeps being good I will be happy.
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>>739654089
It might not be perfectly accurate, if the game contradicts what the sweepstakes website says then the game is absolutely what's canon. But the general vibe of what it conveys will probably hold true.
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>>739654003
>the monkey paw curls
>Toby Fox posts on bsky
>"Hello everybody! Today chapters 3 and 4 turn one year old! Didn't time fly fast since then? By the way, chapter 5 has just started testing for the console ports, we're also doing some work on chapter 6. Meanwhile, take a look at this new Ralsei plushie! I also made a collab with this japanese v-tuber, check it out!"
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>>739654151
I'll take that over more silence, honestly.
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>>739654095
The point of the game isn't obtuse at all. Every time you get annoyed that Susie won't "shut up and let you play", you're running right into it. Your ego is just too big to take the idea seriously.
>b-but it's a game, all it's supposed to do is stroke my ego!
L M A O
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>>739653934
iirc it was because he was clickbaiting with undertale in his video titles and not giving credit to other indie devs on his gaming channel
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>>739654089
it doesn't matter enough for it to be something the game is going to out and out say, but it does give a lot of insight into characters like noelle, to the point where you'd think she was in the game just as much as kris, susie, and ralsei purely going off of the sweepstakes
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>>739654251
people have done far worse than this with his games

also, said indie dev was the heartbound guy lmao
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>>739654151
I would despise Toby even more than I already do. This game's development has evaporated all the goodwill I had towards him. I did not agree with the whole sperg out over the lack of translations but with how much I've grown to hate Toby I was just happy to see him get shat on for once, even if it was for a cause that I don't believe in.
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>>739654197
me too, at least it is confirmation he isn't dead
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>>739653764
The WAIT and these threads have become a self-sustaining machine. At some point not even news will be needed to WAIT.
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>>739654359
I want to enjoy chapter 5 but I would also feel so vindicated if there is widespread hatred against it
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>>739654089
It's just Easter Eggs and theorybait, it's not that important.
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>>739654231
So what is the point then? To play as a side character? As an assistant or guide to the actual main character? That's fine but I don't really give a shit about it, I prefer taking the spotlight, luckily for me the weird route enables me to do that to an extent.
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>>739653587
cute spider
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>>739654462
might be coping but I think chapter 6 and 7 are going to be the vindication players have been waiting for. i'm thinking we get the vessel back by chapter 6's beginning and chapter 7 is obviously the climax where (you) get to shine. I'm saying this because as of chapter 4's ending it's evident Kris has got to make a choice and that'll probably lead to our separation
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>>739654462
Just read Toby's blogpost about the Halloween hack. The point is to take any illusion of agency from the player, to make you feel cheated out.

To answer OP >>739637951, the ending is gonna suck.
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>>739653587
mwah mwah
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>>739654251
The funniest thing about this "drama" is that the said indie game is Heartbound, a game everyone have shat on it years later because of its creator PirateSoftware
So in a way, Matpat got vindicated
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>>739654825
but anon, that's not the hole that makes babies!
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>>739654917
YIIK was the game Toby abandoned immediately when the backlash began, only for it to not be looked at so harshly after that update.
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>>739654359
>>739654415
Based hatemaxxers, I WILL enjoy Chapter 5 but I WILL magnify any and all hate towards Toby for making me wait this long in the first place.
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>>739648319
>So *that's* why he disregarded Hell so thoroughly in his Iconography video, despite Gaster making it super important.
is this true? holy shit kek
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>>739653828
rude
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>>739654953
and?
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>>739655046
my ideal scenario is the chapter 5 dark world being comfy and fun and the light world festival being a middle finger to all ships
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>>739655128
don't you tell me you're one of those freaks that likes spider donuts...
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>>739654890
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>>739655002
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>>739655141
If by comfy you mean Chapter 1 or 2 level comfy, then I'm sorry, but that ship has sailed, there's too many stakes, and whatever would cause another fountain to appear would be serious enough that we can't just have a wacky romp through the dark world with one or two serious moments sprinkled in. This isn't to say there won't be any comedy or moments of levity, there certainly will be, but the background tension will never fully go away, even in those moments.
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>>739655002
Yiik lost, Toby won.
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>>739654953
>>739655185
I'll smooch it anyway
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>>739638065
What did you guys expect? The creator of Homestuck to be a devout catholic?
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>>739655484
That's not Andrew Hussie...
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how big are muffet's spider bites?
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you motherfuckers are going too fast
what the hell even happened in here
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>>739655683
This is what you get for complaining about the threads being slow.
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>>739655683
I hate Toby.
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>>739655619
The most marketable size (AAA)
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>>739655683
Everybody is feeling an announcement from Toby soon so the threads picked up in pace
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>>739655852
People can delude themselves so easily
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>>739655883
HOPE dies last
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>>739655963
The important part is that it dies.



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