What's the point of this thing?
>>739643057DRM slaves who love Gabes shits
>>739643057You can place things on top, like the steam machine and controller in this case.
>>739643057>he buys the goyboxLower your licence when talking, cattle.
CheapNo Microdick OSNo subscriptionsJust werks
>>739643057>steam controller is grey instead of blackwarum
>>739643057
>>739643057>a lot of features: gyro, 4 back buttons, trackpads>steaminput can customize anything>SISR and other open source projects make it usable on non-steam games>fairly priced> easy to repair (motherboards with preinstall jocksticks) battery is swap and replace>repair tutorials are on ifixitwhile yeah third party (chink) controllers are much cheaper u cant fix them at all so they become ewaste when the hall effect center springs eventually gives up after a year or soand other first party controllers like the xbox 1904 model they make the solder super hard so its really hard to repair the joysticks
>>739643057People who think xbox is too powerful
>>739643436>CheapIf Valve still hasn’t revealed the price, it ain’t cheap.
>>739643057>DIY gaming PCs are going to be a thing of the past due to rising costs>prebuilds keep going up in price to the point that companies are going out of business>China is coming in to save the 16GB DDR5 RAM, the RAM that Valve needs>Valve already got the APU, GPU, and VRAM back in 2024>Steam Machine will be the cheapest gaming Mini PC on the market while being on par with the prices of gaming home consoles on the marketValve once again does nothing and winsDo the math
>>739643057Why even buy this if you can get a PS5 with Wolverine and Astro Bot?
>>7396445798 jigabits of vram, vulva definitely won, saar. It’s going to be mesmerizing when people find out it can’t play any games for more reasons than one
>>739643482>while yeah third party (chink) controllers are much cheaper u cant fix them at allAside from the ones that have some convoluted d-pad integrated in the shell, they're as repairable as the average first party and usually much easier to open.
>>739643436>Cheaplol
>>739644735because you don't want to be console cattle anymore?
Valve knows pc gaming is dying and soon you won't be able to buy any parts anymore so this is their attempt to keep pc gaming and steam relevantSame with their ARM compatibility layer they're working onSadly as we've seen with the Steam Deck only pushing a few million units it's fair to say Steam's days are numbered along with the death of pc gamingAll those key rentals gone in the wind....
>>739645591They already optimized SteamOS/Linux for that, so yeah, Valve won.
>>739646286Cope, Xcuck, that's why they shifted to semi-custom off-the-shelf. Steam Deck (2) won't have this problem like the current Steam Deck has. But I can see a future of Valve shifting the Steam Machine (3) and Steam Deck (3) to ARM, if ARM is ready.
>>739646056Why not just buy a prebuild?
>>739646801because they are much more expensive and less cohesive of an experience?
>>739646286>Steam's days are numbered along with the death of pc gamingHahaha wtf is this cope
Making more black soul cubes to feed the reawakening of the one from the ocean abyss. What do you think Gabe is doing? How do you think he got so… large?
>>739643436Can I run local hosted pservers on it? That's a deal breaker for me
>>739646432Cope.Nintendo Switch will be the only gaming machine left in the future.It all started with Nintendo. I will end with Nintendo.
>>739647027How much is the cube? If you buy an OEM prebuild like an HP or Dell they have software that works out all the bios and drivers for you.
>>739647069Cthulhu is a bitch yo
>>739647376nigger nothing is going to offer as good of an entry level experience as the cubeputting up with winjeet 11 and all the preinstalled bloatware is not a win in any capacity
>>739643057idk, they just put it out because they know the million or so cultists will gobble it down, even though they're all supposedly gods who own the beefiest PCs
>>739643057If nothing else, it'll make a good 4K emulation box. Especially good with all of thlde decomp/recomps coming out.
>>739647630???the audience for this is consolecattle refugeesand those don't really care about technicalities, consolecucks ate up the switch 2 despite it being complete garbage in every aspect
>>739647753>switch 2 seethe out of nowhere
>>739647847>out of nowherei cited it as an example of the target audience not being tech literatewhich will apply to the cube buyers and consolecucks because they're the same audience
>>739647343I love Nintendo, man, but you're retarded. ARM Steam Deck isn't ready yet and won't be ready for many years. Steam Hardware powered by SteamOS is the future of PC gaming whether faggots like it or not.
>>739646432arm is a complete fucking meme you retardit's not even more efficient, it just uses newest nodesintel is already raping apple silicon, amd will completely kill it when they jump to 2nm
>>739645929>as repairable as the average first partyso.... dogshit
>>739648313>Steam Hardware powered by SteamOS is the future of PC gamingYou may be right.And that future of PC gaming is death.
>>739647579Why couldn't it? Those complaints you're talking about are not even noticed by an average user.
>>739648889the average new user is getting repulsed by windows 11windows survives on inertia alone, it's an abhorrent new user experience
>people talking about price when a price hasnt been announced.Yikes.
>>739647343>sniff sniffiSMEll SOny
>>739648775And how much do those intel chips cost, anon?
>>739648956I have used my PC for around 5 years now and I have never had an issue with Windows.
>>739648853Good, anything is better than Winblows
>>739647289It's Arch. Can you host pservers on Linux? I truly wonder.
>>739649059>a 4chan poster is trying to be the representative of "normal" peoplelol
>>739649059Congratulations. You should buy a lottery ticket
>>739649390Either way, I would imagine most people never have an issue.
>>739649481What issues have you had with it?
>>739649504>"once again, me and my imagination are the sole representative for normal people"
>>739649023the intel chip is physically very similar in size to the m5
>>739649710And handhelds with them still cost around $1000 and can get down to a strict 15 watts.
>>739649953and? apple is massively subsidising their base models because they're fundamentally just ewaste with how little ram and storage they ship with
>>739643057probably to run the frame in a $1200 bundle but thats over now
>>739650017It's Apple's hardware, of course they can subsidize it, but OEMs using intel aren't going to subsidize.
>>739650209the point is that whatever idiocy intel's doing, they're still beating appleand amd will beat them both when they move to 2nm with zen 6
>>739650651AMD will but Valve is still going to stick with their 3nm chip for Deck 2.
>>739650789the whole point was talking about armthere is zero reason for valve to give a shit about arm when they could just ask amd to make something on the newest node
>>739643296Buy box,Install what ever the fuck you want on it, even another os.Just werks.
to play CYBERDELIA MICRO ON STEAM
>>739650970Yup
>>739643057There's 8 points to it, they're called vertices.
>>739650970Amd wants an order of at least 10 mil chips for custom which valve isnt going to do. At best, valve will get medusa point chips. But who the fuck wants a rdna 3.5 in 2028/9
>>739646286Video games in general are dying. It’s like a mafia syndicate environment like big cities were in the 20th century. broccoli headed teens all want to flex fake rolexes from scamming robux. There are too many rug pulls and rigged gambling casinos to count. Community servers have memberships that are a scam and they end up hazing people who buy it. Horny 12 year olds litter discord and make it everybody’s problem, cops, preds alike, it create more conflict surrounding an issue. Anything you buy outside of an official store front was probably stolen. Kids now start vaping from a young age. A lot of the “gamer furniture” is made from biproducts. Everyone wants to be a streamer so people give up their pricacy to do nothing but play the latest slop. People have even had their houses shot at live on stream. The alpha generation doesn’t play video games for fun. They play games to make money, which defeats the purpose of games in the first place. Video games have become nothing more than a ponzi. Video games have begun to promote a nefarious cause, far worse than “violence” in the 90’s. It’s like music in the 2010’s, it promoted drug use so much that it eventually caved in on itself and they eventually censored themselves with an entirely different message and promoted a different culture and demographic i.e. rednecks and country into the 2020’s. How many multiplayer games have been released since 2020 that wasn’t a concordian flop. The easiest way to censor yourself seems to be by catering/projecting to an imaginary demographic that doesn’t genuinely exist but only in the media’s self references, like liberals and trannies. For music, it was rednecks and american extremists. They are projecting a replacement to the status quo through current media. >tl;drThey’re going to start making even more pozzed games.
>>739651163i expect amd to fix their shit following udna's releasethey'd be retarded not to, if nvidia can gave blackwell mobile within the year then so can they if they move their fucking asses
>>739643057Make consolekeks shit their pants.
>>739651163Medusa Point is RDNA 4m, it'll have native FSR 4 and 12 compute units. Valve will do to it what they're currently doing with the Hawk Point 2, ask for a cut-down Medusa Point with only 6 cores and lower clocks to hit 4-15 watts.
>>739643457>linux pc>don't own???
to steal your shekels
>>739643296>DRM slavesIt's a PC, you retarded consolefag. You can install any game compatible with your operating system on it. Even that hentai about kidnapping and raping lolis made by a pedophile Anon.
>>739643057To suck the fat fuck's cock. Useless if you're not a steamie though
>>739643057The same as any Desktop/Laptop PC?!
>>739646056>can't even have a proper rebuttal>even the fucking PS5 with 2 exclusives (out of the pitiful amount it has) looks better in comparison
>>739651373>linux*>*with closed source DRM components
>>739643057won't randomly shit itself to death like my windows pc did
>>739651710You can literally install whatever OS you want. You have more ownership over this thing right out of the gate than any windows machine or god forbid a console.
>>739651710so just like every single gaming platform in existence?
>>739651273>They’re going to start making even more pozzed games.with what money?
>>739651648but it doesn'tthe snoybox only has value if you're already a snoy or suffer a contrarian mental illness that makes you seethe at valve unprompted
>>739646286Delicious console cope.Consolefags thinking their drm boxes are made out of bubblegum and glue and would somehow survive pc dying is so laughably retarded
>>739651597Desktop and laptops have better specs
>>739652058>but it doesn'tThe snoystation has something to offer that the other doesn't, if the specs are better then it wins over the gaybencube>the snoybox only has value if you're already a snoy*Offers something others don't.
>>739652106consoles would be the very first thing that gets raped in reality, those big lower margin contracts would be the first to go if they had to compete for silicon capacity we've already seen price hikes that bulldoze their value proposition, console corpos aren't going to be benevolent enough to sell consoles while losing hundreds per unit just to gain goodwill in an age where new consoles are less and less necessary
>>739652274what good are specs if you're going to be upscaling from 720p on both the snoybox and the cube? at least the cube lets you fine tune your experience >Offers something others don't.entry into the pc ecosystem has more value than a 10 hour game
>>739643436>cheapShits gonna be like $700 minimum.
>>739651948>gaming platformthe corporate speak betrays the shillLinux is an operating system. it doesn't come with DRM.SteamOS is a "gaming platform". It comes with DRM.
>>739652425You are retarded.
>>739652414>at least the cube lets you fine tune your experience>entry into the pc ecosystem has more value than a 10 hour gameThis will shock you; people don't care about pc nor entry to it as much as you think. Only games matter to a game system; the one that fills that need first and/or better is the better deal. And the PS5 is closer than that compared to the cube.
Power-user controller with a pretty competitive feature-set to everything else in its price range. I put it in the same ballpark as the 8bitdo Pro 3.
>>739643057To play games
>>739652425SteamOS is a stability focused arch fork that comes with steam preinstalled
>>739652616what games comes with it?
>>739652585>This will shock you; people don't care about pc nor entry to it as much as you think. this will shock you, that's an opinion and it's wrong
>>739652585>muh nogaems machine beats pc, please don't buy itlmao
>>739652704PC games
>>739652719>this will shock you, that's an opinion and it's wrong>says the platform loyalist that doesn't understand why his appliance sells
>>739643057maybe they wanna close the gap between a Desktop and a Console
>>739652812Let me rephrase that so you understand; what games has the gabencube that can't get somewhere else? I already can play pc games just fine without it
>>739652704>>739652812and any console game ever made with emulation too
>>739652881That will never happen, mobileshit proved it impossible. You'll need to have several important concessions in order to
>>739652907its literally a fucking PC designed to be console orientated retard, its not meant to be a "whole" console
>>739652704Basically every single game ever made.
>>739652917>Have a PC>Have several consolesSo... the gabecube has basically nothing?
>>739652968Neither a whole pc it seems
>>739653014it does everything of those two if you already didn't have those
>>739652907>nooo, it can't juts play everything it has to fuck people over ad arbitrarily lock down software!Exclusivity is cancer and consoletards are brainwashed goys.
>>739652847Do you understand that consoles are generating an insane amount of spite?Pc platform is objectively better and the cube is an easier entry to it
>>739653075last time I heard you can basically install whatever the fuck on it, you can just buy it and install windows if you'd like
>>739653089Everyone is bound to have a pc at least.
>>739652416thats generous
>>739653126>vegan seething at the mere glint of exclusive softwarecalm down sad, pathetic basement dweller; exclusivity is not bound to exclusive software, it's about offering something others don't: that simple. Now, does the gabencube has something any other device around can't offer?
>>739653162yeah but they do have a pc that could actually run intensive 3D games?
Playing video games
>>739653147Who in their right mind would install windows? I don't see the few potential buyer of this taking 2 step backwards
>>739653243You just couldn't help but out yourself, you sad, pathetic goy. Go pay your subscription to play online, your masters demand it.
>>739653274If they use their pc for games as a secondary thing, most definetly. the gabencube doesn't seem to be that powerful on specs
>>739653346Anon was trying to make a point that you couldn't use it like an actual "PC" like buying it to do photoshop or video editing
>>739653243Wtf cope is this? It absolutely is about exclusive software, its saying if you release software elsewhere you will go to court. Its also extremely gayp
>>739653378>coping harderStop being dumb on purpose and answer the question: does the gabencube has something any other device around can't offer?Already explained to your short-sighted ass that exclusivity in products does not mean your exclusive software scarecrow.
>>739653410>It absolutely is about exclusive softwarewhen it comes to gaming, yes. But the gabencube is also a PC; so it sheds the gaming context a tad being only a product, as such has to offer something exclusive to it (just not exclusive software), without that it's simply redundant as a product to the average consumer's eyes
>>739653387the specs are fine enough, it can already run any game on the market lol. this whole machine is designed for people who literally just want to stick a PC to their living room TV without having to build or buy another prebuilt. Valve straight up said thats what they think, theyre not making this to destroy PS5/Xbox competition
>>739653480Its a pre built decent priced linux and steam os computer. Name another on the market besides deck
>>739653480Not my job to convince an assblasted console coper who inexplicably feels threatened by something he claims not to see the point of. Cry harder.
>>739653571>this whole machine is designed for people who literally just want to stick a PC to their living room TV without having to build or buy another prebuilt.They have been able to do that for years>Valve straight up said thats what they think, theyre not making this to destroy PS5/Xbox competitionIt makes funnier all the vegan shitposting
>>739653410for fucks sake retard, its not a console, ITS JUST A PC. there already games you can't play anywhere else but on PC so if youre a person who plays console but wants to get into PC gaming, this is where Valve wants to market to
>>739653665>Not my job to convince an assblasted console coper who inexplicably feels threatened by something he claims not to see the point of.Try that again but removing your ad homs like a functional person but actually try convince me; not buying a product that doesn't offer anything distinctive from others around.
>>739653770Why would I want you to buy it? Stay out. Don't try to pretend you're here for any reason other than to seethe over it.
>>739653707No they haven't, not with the gimped experience you get with having a controller only way, if you wanted a PC in your living room, you needed a keyboard and mouse and you had to luck out on HDMI CEC features that consoles had since Xbox 360, and mainly because it was never really a desired feature for PC for decades so it never caught on
I forsee it being a bit of an issue that it can't run certain anticheatsA PC that can't play League or Genshin is a hard sell, even if I don't like those games I can recognize thatCan Roblox even be played on SteamOS?
>>739643057No ARM?No buy.
>>739653857Anticheat solves itself as the userbase grows.
>>739653707Not on pre built Linux and steam os pc. To my knowledge no others are sold>>739653709Weren't you JUST saying exclusivity is to benefit users? I was saying that it's RETARDED to frame exclusivity as good. Its literally only good for companies
>>739643057To make haters seethe.
>>739653850>Why would I want you to buy it?That's the whole reason why you would all about seething about consoles calling it better. You still having brought a point with weight on why it's a good product on its own compared to consoles and pc btw
>>739653916>Weren't you JUST saying exclusivity is to benefit users? I was saying that it's RETARDED to frame exclusivity as good. Its literally only good for companiesSorry wrong anon, I meant to >>>739653243
>>739643057me an emulation box with steam support built in
>>739654024Compared to other PCs? Optional.Compared to consoles? Shits all over them.
>>739653852>No they haven'ta beefy laptop through a hdmi and that's basically it>>739653916>Not on pre built Linux and steam os pcI was under the impression steam already enabled that.
>>739653916Not who you're quoting but exclusivity is good, companies and consumers alike. I, as consumer get good deals and products from the companies competing for the purchase and the companies get to sell their shit. Every product is sold under the premise of exclusivity as a concept; this has been since the dawn of consumerism
>>739654113>was under the impression steam already enabled that.Cool. Show me a pre built stream os and linux pc that isn't sold by valve
>>739652214>muh specs!!1!!seriously kill yourself, PCs from 10 years ago can run all the good games just fine anyways, specs haven't mattered in a long time.
>>739654080>Compared to consoles? Shits all over them.Then what are the exclusive games it has? Still anon hasn't answered that
>>739653126>>739654262
>>739654284You do realize people bought pc for exclusivity as well? Right?
>>739654113>a beefy laptop through a hdmi and that's basically itNot the point anon, this whole is designed to work literally like a console, you can turn on the machine and the TV with the controller button press, thats something thats been lacked with pretty much any PC unless you modified some GPU and USB port which is basically uncommon, not to mention, not ever have any KB/M for setup
>>739654304Nobody is denying exclusivity is good at fucking consumers over. Most normalfags don't even think about it. But it doesn't change that it's cancer that dies nothing but benefit corpos and I don't want random PCs to start locking down software to random expensive hardware. Imagine if every handheld pc started trying to lock down random games, it would fucking suck and you'd have to spend thousands on redundant hardware just to get a few of them you might want. Console models are trash and deserve to die.
>>739654323You can get a console for that.>But this is an open enviroment different than consolesThere's PC for that. And then you can hook it to the living room as well. I really don't see gabencube being anything but redundant as a product and device; same thing as the Xbox Ally
>>739654205Faggot no it isn't .Scenario 1, some exclusivity, basically nowScenario 2, no exclusivity. In theory every product can work everywhere Scenario 3, ALL exclusivity, absolutely nothing shared.1 of these scenarios gives you more gamesBenefit to player of exclusivity is basically a twisted sadism, its like thinking a burger is tastier because others starve
>>739654575No. I want a PC with all the convenience of a console. Consoles can kill themselves.
>>739643057it umm it plays the video gaems
>>739654205Brainwashed.
>>739654514>Nobody is denying exclusivity is good at fucking consumers over.Are you saying you were fucked over when you bought your pc because it did what consoles don't?>Most normalfags don't even think about it. But it doesn't change that it's cancer that dies nothing but benefit corpos Now this whole sentence exposes it's merely you seething over it because don't like it or just the part that doesn't pleases you.>and I don't want random PCs to start locking down software to random expensive hardware.Don't worry; not gonna happen due the platform's nature. But now with the rising costs and speculation on pc maybe the door opens but only time will tell
>>739654575>You can get a console for that.yeah but then you can't play PC exclusive games then lmao
>>739654514>Imagine if every handheld pc started trying to lock down random gamesLess reason for them to sell, and they don't have much reason to exist to begin with
>>739643057To praise Saturn.
>>739654205Exclusivity is anti-competition by shielding games from having to compete on an open platform. You don't get deals, you get screwed by a locked down ecosystem that knows you have no control and massive sunk cost. All riding on the back of convenience, the very thing the steam machine is threatening to democratize.
>>739654594>Scenario 1, some exclusivity, basically nowNah, now we have basically non-existant exclusivity. And it's no coincidence we're in the middle of the dark age of gaming with this being one of the reasons for it>Scenario 2, no exclusivity. In theory every product can work everywhereThis is the reality and that only stays in theory. We have saturation of low quality software, platforms are dying due low consumer attraction (xbox lmao), overall less competition between the ones involved in gaming. >Scenario 3, ALL exclusivity, absolutely nothing shared.Factual proof; the golden age of gaming was this scenario and not even to its fullest.
>>739654684No, because pc is an open platform. But I have definitely been screwed repeatedly by consoles growing up due to tehir closed nature.Yes, consoles and exclusivity displease me and that whole model should die. Console users would benefit from it dying as well, even if it scares them.
>>739654910You're goycattle holy shit
>>739654617You're bound to lose something in the process>>739654702Every household has a pc in one way or another, don't worry
>>739654964>>You're bound to lose something in the processLike? I've seen nothing but massive benefits after switching completely to PC.
>>739654675>>739654789Exclusivity IS competition. You live in an era were where most are open and only led to stagnation and developers going under. Open platforms only lead to chaos and uncertainty, you have minimal chances to success, (now) higher costs to develop, more risks and need more profits and bound to uncertainty due the openess of the ecosystem. We already saw this happen once
>>739654947>Yes, consoles and exclusivity displease me and that whole model should die.It's the whole model that made gaming thrive to the point you go into it...>Console users would benefit from it dying as well, even if it scares them.Xbots and dudebros are evidence this is not true, not even the atarifags
>>739654964>Every household has a pc in one way or another, don't worryJust say you didn't get the point
>>739654964Consoles offer absolutely fucking nothing at their very core but restrictions so that fucking cattle like you can worship corporations and fight capitalistic wars for themGames are best played on pc and there is no reason you wouldn't want to play them there unless you're too fucking retarded to use a pc
>>739655005We are talking about this consolized PC, not the proper desktop PC.
Its really funny how the stupid gabecube exposes consoletards who try to shitpost about muh DRM muh locked down box.
>>739655146>Just say you didn't get the pointYou didn't get the point; people has pc and/or console. The one that don't are outliers. >>739655167>Consoles offer absolutely fucking nothing at their very coreGames and practicality.
>>739655089Exclusivity is lack of competition If you want to leave a console you're paying hundreds for new hardwareIt also makes it easier to sell games because you'll have fucking slaves warring over which games are better and those slaves have a much narrower selection to pick from
>>739643057The point is that eventually you will not be able to own your own personal computer as a consumer and the closest thing you will be able to own is something like a Steam Machine.
>>739655181I want PC to be even more convenient for playing games without any downsides. Why does that upset people? Very strange.
>>739655245>You didn't get the point; people has pc and/or console. The one that don't are outliersOkay? It doesn't negate the fact the Steam machine is offering a better experience that I can't get with my current PC, and the funny thing is, I'm not the target audience, but I would get one if I had my own living room with a TV
>>739655245>GamesNothing ties games to console slavery besides a corporate decision>practicalitysteam big picture already mogs consoles
>>739655138So? Just because they had a point 30 years ago means they deserve to be the trash they are today? They need to be put out to pasture.
>>739655138>>Xbots and dudebros are evidence this is not true, not even the atarifagsThe industry would have been far better off if consoles never got them and women into gaming to begin with.
>>739654910Explain Nintendo games. Why can't I buy Mario on steam.Also you are fucking retarded. Exclusivity taken to its radical conclusion is every game costs 400$ because its only available on its own system. Minecraft console, tf2 console , doom eternal console. Each 400 to 800 dollar's, pay up FAGGOT.IF IT was like that, I'd quit gaming.
>>739655089>>Exclusivity IS competitionHow is segmenting the hobby with redundant hardware and barring games from directly competing competition?PC is healthier than ever and growing massively? What chaos are talking about? You don't live in reality.
>>739652907Half-Life the Third>>739654514This is your own fault for getting a Windows PC over Valve's first-party Steam Hardware powered by SteamOS. PC gaming doesn't need Windows Xbox, console gaming doesn't need PlayStation. PC gaming already has Steam and console gaming already has Nintendo, trim the high-end AAA fat.
>>739655287>Exclusivity is lack of competitionWhy buy a system when I can find the same games somewhere else?
>>739655305>I want PC to be even more convenient for playing games without any downsides.PC is not designed for convenience, anon. You don't want a pc, you want something like laptops, tablets or smartphones.
>>739655089Consoles are a perfect example of a lack of competitionSteam's refund terms? 2 hours of playtime, 2 weeks within purchase no questions asked, manual review even morePlaystation and Nintendo? 0 seconds, Nintendo doesn't allow them at all and playstation kills them with automatic downloads and downloads disqualify refundsIf they were to compete with steam directly they'd get fucking raped into shape but they can't because they have dicksuckers like you running defense for them
>>739655448This is true, Xcucks forever fucked PlayStation to the point, I never getting another PlayStation again. I fucking hate Halo 3.
>>739655690Why would I want a corporate branded locked down toy that offers only restrictions when I can have a universal device that respects my freedom, choice and intelligence?Consoles are inherently shit
>>739655771Sorry anon but you can't claim Steam is the good guy when it comes to refunds when 15 years ago they had to be sued to implement the policy.
>>739655690Because you still need a system to play that game. So it may as well be one system that can play all of them and not 10 locked down systems that can only play a fraction. This is the most basic shit ever and I can't tell whether I'd prefer the thought of consolefags either being stupid or to be arguing in bad faith.
>>739655326>It doesn't negate the fact the Steam machine is offering a better experience that I can't get with my current PCThat only means you have a weak PC. You can buy another one as investment for decades if you want; that's a far better deal than a "handheld" pc.>>739655407>Just because they had a point 30 years ago means they deserve to be the trash they are today?They still have a point today; it's the paradigm that makes it function. They are fumbling nowadays because they strayed away from it trying to deny it.
>>739655845>15 years agowe're talking right now aquajeetI don't care about your eternal butthurt
>>739655690Probably because they system itself is good??? Steam deck didn't need exclusives to promote itself.
>>739655845So? You couldn't get refunds on digital stores on console too lmao
>>739648889>Those complaints you're talking about are not even noticed by an average user.
>>739655681?What are you talking about, wyat does that have to do with exclusivity? I use Linux and I have a Deck for portability.
>>739655893>>739655907Sony never had to be sued to implement more pro-consumer practices. Sorry but Steam and PC as a whole are anti-consumer. ESG was supposed to break the monopoly but Gabe is too entrenched. Hopefully Sony opens their own store on PC to fight back.
>>739643296You know not ecery game has DRM on steam....But no game has DRM on on GOG
>>739655954Then you've made the right decision.
>>739655741>PC is not designed for convenience, anon.This is why the steam machine terrifies you. Also, the deck is damn convenient and pc in general has gotten extremely convenient for gaming in general. I am never, ever, going back to consoles.
>>739655969>Sony never had to be sued to implement more pro-consumer practicesBecause they don't have any pro consumer policies, aquasnoyjeetThey're worse now than steam was 15 years ago
>>739655459>>739655542>Explain Nintendo games. >How is segmenting the hobby with redundant hardware and barring games from directly competing competition?Competition by offerig something others don't and manage to attract audiences, simple as. Since game systems live and die through their software they need to focus on exclusive software and ensure it's better than software made on other platforms (competing with them to beat them). This has not changed>>739655681>Half-Life the ThirdIf only. And they should; it would make the cube sell very well and I feel all those "people" making a crusade saying exclusive are anti-consumer would go silent quickly
>>739655871>That only means you have a weak PC. You can buy another one as investment for decades if you want; that's a far better deal than a "handheld" pc.Holy fuck man, I'm not talking about the specs, I'm talking about you can't just get a gaming PC that is plug and play, I can spend on a RTX 5090 and the best CPU and I still won't be able to turn on the PC with my controller, and not have to deal with driver related updates along with separated OS updates
>>739656002Been a while since I've seen AI fuck up hands that badly.
>>739655771>Consoles are a perfect example of a lack of competition*Current consoles (besides Nintendo)>>739655841>avoiding the questionAgain; why buy any given system when I can find the same games somewhere else? I made question free of personal bias
>>739655969>ESG was supposed to break the monopolyYeah because their storefront and launcher FUCKING SUCKS to use, its literally a worse experience compared to Steam, even giving away free games never got anybody to move on
>>739655861>Because you still need a system to play that game.Smartphone confirmed to be superior than all platforms then>>739655904>Probably because they system itself is good???No, game systems are not important. You play games, not hardware.
>>739656036You still have to compete with your software regardless.>make shit games>die>make good games>succeedNo console needed. You're adding redundant hardware to the mix where there doesn't need to be any just because that;s what you're used to and have been led to believe by the ones selling it to you.
>>739656141>Again; why buy any given system when I can find the same games somewhere else? Why the fuck should there be systems that are specifically designed to be as anticonsumer as possible where you're placing all authority in the hands of one single entity?
>>739656028>This is why the steam machine terrifies you.Where? It offers nothing that a PC or a smartphone can't do a loses all they can.>the deck is damn convenientThat shit is bigger than the fucking Switch, those size aren't convenient at all
>>739656192Smartphones are literally just pocket pcs that have also been mostly locked down and addled by spyware. Just because people are addicted to the internet 24/7 does not make them superior as a device.
>>739656069>I'm talking about you can't just get a gaming PC that is plug and playLaptops, for decades
>>739656282The switch has dogshit ergonomics, the deck is made to actually fit in your hands
>>739643057right here :)
>>739643057Reminder that vavle drones are no better then itoddler drones
>>739656237>make shit games>die>make good games>succeedYou do realize the most successful non-exclusive games are among the shittiest and the developers that have made some of the best games ever went bankrupt? And that's only talking about devs that worked solely on PC. That logic doesn't apply to reality>>739656257>muh anticonsumerSubjective issue.
>>739656349Consolecucks are just as ideologically possessed as applefags They love being squeezed , locked down and limited because they think daddy corpo knows bestConsoles and apple toys both call it jailbreaking because they're both imprisoned cattle
>>739656326Beefy smartphones already exists anon, some even have tried to actually make gaming smartphones
>>739656335>Laptops, for decades ragebaiter retard, did you not understand what I meant by plug and play, again? for the 3rd time that I've been posting
>>739656463>It's not anticonsumer because I don't care about my consumer rights
This thread is 3 PCfags falseflagging as retarded consolefags to troll other PCfags
>>739656338None of them fit in a pocket. Those shits aren't convenient unless you're fat and put them in your XXL shirt's pocket
>>739643057Anything you want. It's a fucking computer. Game on it or spend all your free-time arguing on a dead board on a dying forum for chinese basket-weaving enthusiasts. Install Jewdows or stick with the native Arch Linux install. Whatever.
>>739656282You, and other console advocates, are constantly crying in these threads because you already know the answer to that question.It's coming for consoles by making PC more convenient. The Deck is also awesome and basically a childhood dream device. But what I don't get though is why you all freak out. No matter how good it is, it's still Valve. There will be zero marketing or physical presence. It's not going to single-handedly kill consoles, a whole slew of things will and their death started long before this.
>>739656036Its different when you aren't offering, but denying. Five guys Burger's is great, but imagine if five guys made it illegal to sell other burgers within 20 miles. Thats not competitive, its cronyism >>739656192People sure like steam deck for hardware. Explain
>>739656532>did you not understand what I meant by plug and play, again?Let's see>buy laptop>buy hdmi cable>go home>connect laptop to tv>Open game.exe>close laptop>????>profit
>>739643057HTPC in a mini-ITX setup.Also does gaming. So... home entertainment system.>BUT CONSOLES CAN DO THE--I doubt consoles can play PC exclusives.
For me to fuck it and fill it with cum.
>>739656520Okay? Point being? I don't think you understand the fact they're just little rectangular pcs.
>>739656546>It's anticonsumer because I can't conceive electronic devices having different dynamics as products
>>739643057collecting dust>>739643296/thread
>>739655969Sony can't even beat Nintendo in Japan. The future is both Nintendo and Valve controlling all of gaming.
>>739656590>muh cryingI'm asking what has to offer that other products can't. Not just consoles but PC and related devices.
>>739656657With steam os pre installed>>739656694There's no drm. Nothing stops you from doing anything with anything
>>739656630>Open game.exeFor most people that game.exe comes from Steam and steam is most definitely not pre-installed on laptops.
>>739656630laptops have steam pre installed? and the GPU drivers? all automatically????
>>739656591That's a bad food analogy. There's no denial; it's literal offer>one burger joint offers a cheeseburger>other one offers the patty and fried onion>you pick the one you want or bothOnly pc vegans see something like this and scream anti-consumer.... somehow...>People sure like steam deck for hardware. ExplainIts numbers are small as fuck, only big when you reduce expectation and treat it as niche.
>>739656689>It's different!!!!And those differences make them objectively worseYou're just operating at a retard level where you pretend they don't matter to save your ego
>>739656036>If only. And they should; it would make the cube sell very well and I feel all those "people" making a crusade saying exclusive are anti-consumer would go silent quicklyI know right, I want Valve to be fully back in game development and locking all of their first-party games on Steam while all the special features will be locked down to Steam Hardware. The eventually I want is everyone leaving Windows for SteamOS on Linux, devs will start making games on SteamOS and completely ignoring Windows.
>>739656657>I don't think you understand the fact they're just little rectangular pcsExactly; pure convenience. Which fullfills anon's desire wanting pcs being convenient and portable.
>>739656463That's a gross exaggeration to try and promote something that has nothing to do with it. Plenty of exclusive games could qualify there as well. Marketing and how publishers treat a game still exist. Also, we now get random no name three man team indies working out of a basement with no budget who come out of nowhere and mog nintendo in every way.
>>739656349Applefag mentality and their locked down ecosystem of abuse applies far, FAR more to consoles than it does to PC.
>>739656842But in the case of exclusivity, they sue you if you put cheese on a burger, dense fuckNumbers are HUGE for expectations, reminder that sd was sold out for basically a whole year Its like calling an indie game a failure for selling a million copies because gta sold several million
>>739656743>>739656798>PC is so dead that vegans complaining about consoles being locked down can't conceive a PC where you don't depend on SteamAbsolutely grim... we need a solar flare and total reboot
>>739656732Why does it scare you to the point you feel the need to come into these threads and try to argue in favor of consoles? Answer that and there's your answer to your own question.
>>739656893What an awful false flagging attempt consoleniggerPc is guided by choice and amorphousness and you're such fucking cattle that you want valve to lock everything down so you can have another team to cheerlead
I want exclusivity because Sony and Microsoft make dogshit and I don't want their trash tainting Steam or Nintendo platforms. Keep that shit contained in your own ecosystems.
>>739656903Problem is they're not convenient for a bunch of things and are limited by their form factor.
>>739657008Isn't the point being argued here that of convenience? That's steam's entire market niche.
>>739643057Having fun
>>739657029If you make the choice of Windows over SteamOS, Valve should have the obligation to strip everything from you, Microsoft faggot.
>>739657008sorry I just like having a sperate gaming PC hooked onto my living room TV without having to deal with manual bullshit, I just want to plug it in and never deal with software, cause at that point I might as well be on my desk like I already do
>>739656732Steam os installed. Admittedly steam machine doesn't offer a ton new, but that's kinda not the point. Its a pc if you want less fucking around with tweaking
>>739656871>And those differences make them objectively worseNo, those difference don't meet your needs. Nothing else.>>739656893I fucking Steam but I agree fully. More reasons to use/buy their products, more pressure to others to get the consumer, more competition between the companies, more good shit that I can get myself>The eventually I want is everyone leaving Windows for SteamOS on Linux, devs will start making games on SteamOS and completely ignoring Windows.Spot on. If only because it's a good moment seeing even Linux is growing even if small as fuck, windows is stumbling
>>739657138I've been on Linux for a year How about you faggot, post a fastfetch, I refuse to believe anyone could possibly misunderstand the very purpose of pc as a platform
>>739657008People want convenience and features. Steam understands this without any real compromises, hence they are extremely successful. It's not that complicated.
>>739656994>But in the case of exclusivity, they sue you if you put cheese on a burger, dense fuckNope. The burger itself isn't copyright'd. The hamburger is game software development, anon; in case you didn't get it.
>>739657214>No, those difference don't meet your needs. Nothing else.No, you're a shit eater that's choosing to ignore your consumer rights being violated because you love those corporations that very clearly attempt to fuck you over and ensnare you even harder
>>739657023>muh scareProjection? Because I'm asking what it has to offer over others; CONSOLES and PC alike>>739657098The massive widespread adoption proves it is convenient, the issue is the obsolence.
>>739657274Ok, and how do I buy this Mario cheeseburger on steam? Oh wait.I never said copyright, I said the burger was forbidden from being sold elsewhere.Fucking troglodyte
Has an actual price been announced yet, my guess is they're still getting steamos ready for dekstop
>>739657340>>739654080
>>739657390SteamOS is ready to go and the gabecube should've been out by now. They're getting reamed by the cost of components.
>>739657203>>739657252>Steam os installed.Clashes with the consolized side of it; features aren't a selling point when it comes to gaming. If anything it's stepping on a landmine. Is the gabecube not related to games at all now? Because if the focus is on the SteamOS then the things has no real reason to buy unless you're heavily invested into Stea--- oh lmao
>>739657228I simply don't like Microsoft, they betrayed PC gaming, I zero trust in them and I'm getting sick and tired of them trying to turn it into a fucking Xbox.
>>739657315>vegan copeOk, it's a gigantic (You) problem that you're going about like a faggot. Got it.
isn't this supposed to be formally revealed tomorrow?
>>739657519*have
>>739643436>Cheap
>>739657390I think they haven't announced it because theyre still being fucked with DDR5 RAM supply
>>739657495>Clashes with the consolized side of it; features aren't a selling point when it comes to gaming.What? How?
>>739657531Yes, protecting my anal virginity is a me problem, you console fags clearly have no issues with getting plowed so hard you go incontinentYou have lower standards and that's that
>>739656893I don't want valve to try and turn pc into console cancer, I just want ease of use.That said, I would not be surprised if they coincide HL3's announcement with the launch of th steam machine, like they did with alyx and the index.
>>739657495Console peasants are poor, dead market no one cares to cater for
>>739657362>reddit spacer brings a food analogy and now moves the goalpost suddenlyYou can buy the Gordon Freeman cheeseburger on Steam, the Mario cheesburger on Nintendo systems. But you only complain about the Mario cheeseburger being forbidden to be sold elsewhere and shut up about the other entirely, and you'd complain about not liking the Mario cheeseburger anyway>>739657427So it's redundant? Because that post reeks at console hate boner and proves PC is the better product over the gabencube
>>739657519Then just say you're larping instead of trying to schizo terraform the pc landscape with your tech illiterate headcanon
>>739651710you have no idea what you are talking about, stop posting
>>739657495What even is this cope?
Since this is the Steam hardware thread how did the steam controller end up?
>>739657616Basic design; game systems aren't sold around features. Somebody already tried and failed miserably; game systems are only sold and work about games.>>739657678The pisstation 5 has sold +80 millions with price hikes along the way and expensier than pc in several countries despite that, they don't seem that poor
>>739657682>and proves PC is the better product over the PC???
>>739657495SteamOS is an attempt to get the operating system as out of the way as possible, you fucking idiot It's by default designed to be much harder to break and software you install is installed with a layer of separation through flatpak
>>739657761Sold out in 30 minutes
>>739657495Its literally just a consolized pc. Idk why you don't grasp this>>739657589It really is sad that someone is seriously arguing being unable to buy Mario on pc is "good for the consumer". Yeah as a pc gamer I'm So happy I can't actually get some games. Really fun
>>739657761People love it, valve fucked up selling hardware, again, and it's out of stock until further notice.
>>739657673They already did that with SteamOS, you have the Steam-only Gaming Mode, and then you have the Desktop Mode for productivity. You want games from other stores, you get them and then shove them into your Steam library as non-Steam games. Steam Deck and Steam Machine are just opened consoles. I'm also happy Valve will give Microsoft the middle finger on their Advance Shader Delivery shit.
>>739657773>Make a linux distro that is as painless and convenient for the user as possible>this somehow clashes with its purpose as a convenient PC/console hybrid thingThis makes no sense
>>739657683Fuck Xbox, fuck Windows, fuck Microsoft
>>739657682I mean half-life 2 and 1 were on console's so wtf is your point????
>>739657886And fuck Nintendo and SonyAll software should be available on Linux
>>739657920Nah, just fuck PlayStation and Sony. I want Nintendo and Valve to maintain their uniqueness.
>>739657720One of the several Hiroshi Yamauchi's statements over 2 decades ago that were proven true. It's not cope when the motherfucker saying it was proven right by time>predicted the downfall of Xbox>may have been right about Sony's donwfall as well
>>739657780Not pc; the steam cube. Not the same.
>>739657971What fucking uniqueness? Nintendo doesn't deserve to make hardware and trap software there The switch 2 is a piece of fucking shit, bad battery, bad screen, bad SoC, bad ergonomicsNothing about it justifies its own existence beyond Nintendo's desire to control their cattle
>>739657851Opened consoles are called PCs. You jailbreak/crack a console and you're turning it into a PC. If they were a console you wouldn't have access to anything outside of big picture mode.
>>739657792>It's by default designed to be much harder to breakThis is going to age so fucking poorly lmao
>>739658057This. If not for exclusivity nobody would fucking buy a switch 2 period
>>739658042They are literally the same. The gabecube is a PC.
>>739657893>implying people bought their consoles for HL's ports
>>739657815>It really is sad that someone is seriously arguing being unable to buy Mario on pc is "good for the consumer"its funny because I see the logic, and its not for the right reasons, if nintendo did allow their games on PC, even if its like emulator-translation layer, and you have to use Nintendo controllers and subscriptions, it would still hurt their business because then nintendo cucks would be like why the fuck would I buy a shitty third party publisher port when I can play nintendo games and third party games at the same time and then Nintendo will lose half of their own revenue on their store front
>>739658089No? It's immutable and you can only install shit through flatpak unless you tinker with itTechnically you can get AUR shit on there but if you're just ripping out the foundations you might as well install one of the more unrestricted arches
>>739658127That's irrelevant nigger, and you keep changing your argument. You argued hl wasn't on console, it was. You are full of shit
>>739658057Having devs get the most out of their weak hardware while having unique controls for innovative and creative gameplay. Just going to point this out, Valve isn't getting back into game development to develop just some generic PC, they're returning to game development for their own hardware to make innovative gameplay built for the Steam Controller, Steam Machine, Steam Frame, and Steam Deck 2. If not for Steam Hardware powered by SteamOS, Valve wouldn't even be making games still. Nintendo inspired Valve, even Valve admits that, you ingrate.
>>739657815>Its literally just a consolized pc. Idk why you don't grasp thisYou fucking vegans are terrible explaining shit>It's a consolized pc>ok so what games have going on for it?>N-No it's not about the games but the OS>so it's a pc, why buy it if already have one?>N-no, this one is convenient>like... a console? but what if I already have one>N-no, this one is becaue the specs>but it's a consoles, specs mean jackshit>N-no, it's about the specs, it's about freedom>I have all the freedom I want on pc already, why would>No, how do you not get it?!Make up your fucking mind lmao. I still haven't get a clear answer what this product has over pc or a console. Doesn't have any exclusives and limited for being a PC because tries(?) to be a console.
>>739658328*for
>>739658206>That's irrelevantI know; only a retard complains about exclusivity when it's not on their platform of choice.
>>739658071It's about the UI and it doesn't have access to Microsoft's sorry ass Xbox Store.
>>739658206>You argued hl wasn't on console, it was.Never stated that.
>>739658375NTA, but goddamn, bow out with some dignity.
>>739658342>You fucking vegans are terrible explaining shitFreedom of pc, ease of use of console Some people want that >>739658375Depends on why. There's just not being on it, and then there's forbidding it. Hell having diarrhea could be from bad Food, OR intentionally poisoned They the same?
>>739643057To play video games.
>>739658417Consoles are more drm than ui. And that's on m$ not supporting linux. You could still literally install windows if you're a masochist.
>>739643057Gamers Nexus says all PCs will explode by 2028 and nobody will sell PC parts anymore because it will be illegal and that everything with be chatbot terminals like it's the 60s, so the Steam Machine and its sequels will be the only option
>>739658342if you want to know what games it has for it just put together a list of 90% of PC games and any console game that is up for emulationit would be easier and smaller to describe a list of games the steam machine DOESNT run :)
>>739658342Nobody can explain it to you because you don't want to hear it and argue in bad faith. You're here to shill consoles and that's all.
If I were an entertainment company, I would not want to publish my products in such a nebulous platform as PCs. Why deal with piracy and the labor required to produce software that works across a variety of hardware setups? It’s ultimately a financial decision, and it looks like the long game doesn’t favor PCs as the revenue on that platform is largely driven by microtransactions - which I think will be subject to legal reform at some point.A benefit of PCs is larger audiences that could produce greater revenue, but I doubt most publishers would want to be stretched thin across the cultural needs of massive audiences - unless they peddle softcore porn and gambling, things that transcend cultural boundaries.I for sure would not want my products exposed to “independent-thought-types” - imagine getting your work coopted by trannies? Unfortunately, given the low barrier of entry through hand-me-downs and piracy, the PC world is a tranny world - there’s no doubt about it.
>>739658557>You could still literally install windows if you're a masochist.NEVER!!!!!!!
>>739658456Stop coping.
>>739643057100% retrocompatible in the world of consoles. all other companies are already butthurt that you only buy the game once.
>>739658541>Some people want thatAlready covered by several devices. >There's just not being on it, and then there's forbidding itI struggle to recall a moment of straight out forbidding it. Copyright exists to leave these rules clear
>>739658328And with this post you've proven that you don't understand shitValve doesn't care about the sales of their hardware What they want is to set a blueprint for hardware manufacturers to follow so they can conquer everything without lifting a finger and eventually rape consoles out of existence
>>739658635>you don't want to hear it and argue in bad faith. You're here to shill consoles and that's allStopProjecting,please
>>739658328>Having devs get the most out of their weak hardware while having unique controls for innovative and creative gameplay.This hasn't been true in any meaningful way in a very long time.>If not for Steam Hardware powered by SteamOS, Valve wouldn't even be making games still. Nintendo inspired Valve, even Valve admits that, you ingrate.Both those statements are asspulls.
>>739658767>Several devices No, you're splitting that functonality up when the point is to have both with no compromises
>>739658667>If I were an entertainment company, I would not want to publish my products in such a nebulous platform as PCs.Some people born after 98 has serious issues with this and too hellbent about it. They have options but still complain>>739658761>100% retrocompatible in the world of consoles>can't put my SNES carts or my DOS games on itThat'd be sweet tho
>>739658342>ok so what games have going on for it?Isn't it self explanatory that PC has ALL games? Even shit like Bloodborne has a PC version cobbled together by fans.
>>739658783>Valve doesn't care about the sales of their hardwareThey don't, but it's the kick in the ass they needed to get back into game development, that's all that matters.>What they want is to set a blueprint for hardware manufacturers to follow so they can conquer everything without lifting a finger and eventually rape consoles out of existenceExactly, 1080p/30 FPS will be the minimum for all PCs that Valve wants to standardize using their first-party hardware. In terms of raping consoles, they'll rape PlayStation and Xbox, but Nintendo will live on forever.
>>739658813>stop pointing out what I'm doing lalalalaIcan'thearyou!
>>739658863I mean those devices excel for the most part, gabencube looks halfassed and makes compromises about it
>>739658858>This hasn't been true in any meaningful way in a very long time.For Nintendo's devs it is>Both those statements are asspulls.Hey man, Valve said it, not me
>>739658897>Isn't it self explanatory that PC has ALL games?But doesn't make the gabencube better since I already can get all that on PC, it seems like a literal downgrade>>739658917You're coping too much, anon
>>739658978You're shitposting too much, anon
>>739658914No, Nintendo will get the biggest dick in their rape if anything Their games are easier to run and they have the most sales to gain by dropping exclusivity
>>739658767Name a non valve pc with steamOS pre installed. I'll wait
>>739658957Problem is Nintendo being constrained by their own hardware doesn't translate to efficiency anywhere else since they lock their games down to their hardware. So there's no benefit there.>Valve said itYou got proof?
>>739659029If that's the case, why can't you emulate Switch 2 games?If you want Nintendo games so damn much, get a job and buy their damn console. Can't do that, then shut the hell up.
>>739658995You'll call anything that doesn't please you a shitpost.
>>739647630I have a 7900XTX and the selling point of the GabeCube for me is having something I can plug into my basement TV that's part of the Steam ecosystem and is as pick up and play as a console.
>>739659130All you've been doing throughout this entire thread is pretending to not understand anything you've been told. You're here to shill consoles and the gabecube makes you afraid for consoles, so discourse is impossible.
>>739659069This is a game system or not? because I don't see the potential buyer using it to browse around it since it's a selling point. Doesn't even look like a selling point to begin with>>739658858>This hasn't been true in any meaningful way in a very long time.Even as a flop; VR has done some of this. Plus Nintendo.
>>739659123Because there's no emulator yet?Good luck being an executive at Nintendo seeing home consoles decay and justifying avoiding 80% of the market when home consoles get obsoleted when you could have those sales with one version I've said it before The switch 2 is a piece of fucking shit, bad battery, bad screen, bad SoC, bad ergonomicsNothing about it justifies its own existence beyond Nintendo's desire to control their cattleThe prospect of buying this shit is embarrassing
>>739657390From the HDMI bypass, the VRAM optimization and the FSR implementation it doesn't seem like Valve is ready to put this out and they're just winging it, hoping the devs are finished with implementing some of the features. It appears that the delay is a blessing in disguise because Valve will finally be done with most of the big features in the hardware at release.
>>739659226Again; you're coping. And projecting. Still haven't read a clear idea of what the product is supposed to be beyond >>739658541The gabencube sounds way too redundant and only aimed to steamies in the most ironic way possible
>>739659072https://www.shacknews.com/article/103746/valves-gabe-newell-says-theyre-back-to-making-games
>>739659130No, you keep asking a question you got the answer to several times. Ever heard the definition of insanity?>>739659232To you I guess. Thats ok, you don't have to buy it
>>739659271Who would've thought it'd be Nintendo the one on top making an unhackable system (for the time being). Being the company that gets all the attention for it and preventing it makes it more impressive
HOLY SHIT CHECK STEAM(I sent you a friend request)
>>739659347>This dick in my ass is so big and releasing so much cum! Impressive!
>>739659307>Thats ok, you don't have to buy itWell, yeah; that's a given. But you could take that advice if you were the vegan seething at consoles; that's the whole point of competition: they offer exclusive stuff, you can skip it.
>>739659395[block user]
>>739659305Just like Xbox getting their shit togheter; I'll believe it when. I. Fucking. See. It.
>>739659232Yes, it's a game system that provides the console experience without the humiliation ritual consoles come with
>>739659347iirc they hired the guy that hacked the 3ds since he was aware of both firmware and eshop security loopholes and how to fix them
>>739659434That crack you heard was the sound of my heart breaking
>>739659347bruh
>>739659457Then why the SteamOS, no physical option, and (so far) no exclusives for it. Like I've been saying this thread; it has too many drawback for what it wants to be. If you're a console you need exclusives; game systems don't sell by features, if it's a PC, being contained like a console won't work. If it's about features, there's a lot of devices that covers almost all the space for it. In the end it sounds as redundant as the ROG and only aimed to loyalists>>739659461top kek
>>739659271Dude the Switch 1 is about the outsell the PS2 and the Switch 2 is already outpacing the Switch 2's first year and is still the faster selling console ever. I find both you Steamies and Tendies to be complete and utter retards arguing with each other. It makes me think you're both mentally ill and new. Gaming will get better once PlayStation and Xbox dies.
>>739659452Xbox will get its shit together given the count that they're owned by corporate Microsoft. If you ever had any faith in Xbox, you're more retarded than a sniveling Snoy.
>>739659768*never
>>739658893>That'd be sweet thosnes carts have never been on pc officially.you don't have to buy the game again when there's a steam machine3
>it's another consolefags don't understand pc episode even though their console can't even access this siteThis board should be better.
>>739657761doesnt work outside of steam
>>739660674Not true.
>>739657761Well-received, some loud detractors on /v/ who hate that it's (mostly) tied to steam input
What's the point? I want to fuck a cute AGP tranny who uses arch linux and does computers
>>739653243There is literally nothing a console can do that the steam machine couldn't also do or support.Fags trying to act like an open system the user has full control over is some kind of detriment because it's not trying to screw them over by taking things hostage is the gayest shit. Pure corpo cockgobbling.
>>739657761Annoying that some applications need to update to more recent SDL protocols just to support the thing at all but that's more on the heads of poorly maintained emulators and the like, it also has a bizarrely over-sensitive d-pad and diagonals are tripped way too easily for my liking, to the point I had to open the damned thing up and put some electrical tape on the d-pad contacts like an ancient 8bitdo controller. AFTER DOING THAT, the d-pad feels great and works great, buttons feel great, I like the puck and it's great to have a Dinput controller with a 2.4ghz connection, my only real gripe is I don't give a shit about analog triggers and I would have liked trigger locks on this thing.
>>739660674Literally works on Android and Microsoft without steam installed.
>>739643057I don't understand the touchpad on the controller. What is that about?Wouldn't it be better to go M+KB for those games?
>>739662007The whole point is not having to carry a keyboard, mouse, and flat mouse surface dude. This is like claiming getting a hatchet is gay because an enormous ax is better at splitting wood
>>739643057milking retarded valvejeets
>>739661173I wouldn't bother worrying about their opinions. Dumb cattle who refuse to understand why hardware/software freedom is the better option for the end-user is none of my concern. Let them keep buying every playstation and paying a $150/yr subscription fee just to play multiplayer.Let them inhabit their little jeet-infested island off the coast of Sri-Lanka while we're cruising on galactic cosmic waves, sipping perfectly chilled cola with ayys.
>>739651419>Install any game from steam>delete steam>game can't launch steam is a DRM
>>739662439I'm literally playing stardew right now without steam running.
>>739643057I just want a tiny pc that can run anything at 1080p, high settings at 60fps. Sub $900. Simple as.
>>739643296fpbp
>>739662715Buy literally any mini PC already on the market.
>>739643057to lock console tards and soccer moms/dads into thinking 'le pc console from le valve is heckin based for my kids'Same with him making steam solely to fuck over people wanting to sell/trade HL2 after they got done with it in six hours since it was a scam
>>739643296thread should've ended here
>>739665710>HALFLIFE 2 is a scamBruh, its one of the Highest rated games. Tf are you on about.Also it wouldn't of been better with endless padding
>ctrl f "console">over 100 results>in a thread that literally doesn't have anything to do with consolesthe unhinged hatred jeets have against consoles needs to be studied
>>739666047People often call it console like, which is many of those mentions
>>739666047Closed steam ecosystem = console,jeet.
>>739662439There's a good amount of games on Steam that run without having steam open, they don't actually have DRMThere's also this thing you can do called not buying games on steam and installing a different client and running those from there like you do on windows. Or using a steam emulator and pirate shit, you can also do that on linux.
>>739643057Like 2/3 of the PCs on Steam are inferior to it.It's the definitive way of playing using a PC on your living room
>>739666047>jeets>hating consolesThey worship PlayStation and Nintendo, though.
>>739667824And steam
>>739657574>>739652416>>739646017Price increases are industry-wide, this is the new cheap.
>>739666967>Like 2/3 of the PCs on Steam are inferior to it.Because those people can't afford anything better.How will they be able to afford an overpriced gabecube?
>>739643296>>739656694>>739665223>>739665924Rothschild shills still mad as fuck I see
>>739666485>Closed steam ecosystem
>>739643057That controller looks so cheap.
>>739643057Steam controller is good if you want to commit arson and make it look like an accident
>>739671953How
>>739671953deboonked sweaty
>>739672064Puck + smart watchhttps://arstechnica.com/gaming/2026/05/psa-the-steam-controllers-magnetic-charger-can-be-a-fire-hazard/
>>739649564A blue screen of death on July 19, 2024
>>739672142>Puck + smart watchNo, you need a colossally RETARDED setup. Here's what that redditor faggot was actually running:>a 2 USB adaptor of unknown safety (probably a chink special)>both the shitty chink smartwatch charger and the puck plugged into it>the chinkwatch was so garbage that it uses the case for grounding, which migrated through the cheap aftermarket watch strap to bridge through to the ground on the puck>chink charger then pumped some spicy current through the shortIt would never be a fire hazard without multiple basic mistakes.
>>739672142The redditor that had this problem already admitted to have done something very fucking stupidThis is the weakest shit, notice how it didn't spread for long
>>739643057>What's the point of this thing?To blind you and steal all your time for repentance.Revelation 16:15 KJVBehold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
>>739657008Yes, because of convenience. You know, the thing that the term "plug-and-play" represents.
>>739673020>convenience>you already own a consoleJust use your console, no need to buy this.>own a PCSame as above.>don't own anythingBuy a console as it's cheaper.>but I need PC for work/schoolSo buy a laptop. It will handle simpler games - if it turns out you like playing them and want something better - buy a console or proper PC, not a shitcube.
>>739646286This is Valve's attempt to standardise hardware requirements instead of letting devs be retards whose shitty indie game needs a 5090.
>>739659395People really do play with friends?
>>739643057I think it's supposed to be a mid tier gaming PC with a console-like UI for the living room, and comes with linux installed since gaming on linux is now working fine. So the point is to offer an alternative to microcuck winjeet os while being easy to use
>>739674507>please please please pay Sony to humiliate you you're such a fucking faggot holy shit
>>739653857>or Genshinwasn't there some leak about Genshin coming to Steam?
>>739666047Cope and sneed consolekek
>>739654594Exclusives wouldn't have been made without the need to sell a system. No exclusivity gives you less games and more homogenized worse games as there is no need for the game to be exceptional. It just need to sell some units on all platforms. Note how Capcom is super succesful by making the same Resident Evil over and over. You will never get a fundamental change like they did with Resident Evil 4. Without Sony Final Fantasy 7 wouldn't exist in the form that made people love it even decades later.Non exclusivity leads to zero effort sequels and remakes because there is no financial incentive to take risks.
>>739685215>because there is no financial incentive to take risks.exclusives are explicitly against taking risks?it's a corporate fucking bribe, guaranteed money
>>739643057>What's the point of this thing?A lowest common denominator PC gaming experience with most of the benefits of consoles such as small footprint and power consumption and controller-centric UI. In a sense it's a console for people who hate consoles for being too locked down - can't play with mouse + keyboard in most games, can't change graphics settings at most you have a choice between two modes, can't install mods etc. The idea itself is sound but I think Valve missed a massive opportunity.They should have released an ultra-cheap home console version of the Steam Deck first, alongside the actual steamdeck.
it's a pc for retards
>>739685363Excusives need to sell a platform, there are expectations. Most exclusives are first party which means the platform holder will keep the studios in check. Third party exclusives are either a close to finished project or a reputable studio. Yes there can be mistakes sometimes on both sides.
>>739678967>linux is now working fineGood joke
>>739685998>Most exclusives are first party which means the platform holder will keep the studios in check.and those are the laziest games everrisks, my fucking ass
I don't know why we're arguing about exclusivity when the switch 2 has a lot of those and they all happen to be absolute fucking dogshitI for one am glad as a consumer not to have to spend 500 bucks for 3 games worth a shit I can't play on my platform of preference
>>739687442(with the addition of an extra subscription and only being able to use a specific controller for that platform, as well, unless I go and buy extra fucking adapters btw)
>>739686647lil double digit iq babby got filtered? never learned to ride a bike?
>>739672064By beating that consolekek over the head with it until he shits fire
>>739674507Cope lmao
>>739652416Try 900 dollars.
>>739687704grok, get to work, I need a visual of this
>>739652416That'll be the RAM and the case
I unironically think Steam Machine won't ever come out. You will see a pseudo-rugpull where people bought the controller but the thing it's meant to go with is too expensive and never arrives, it can't survive in the current market. So they'll just course-correct to Steam Deck (which will probably get even cheaper in terms of hardware) and slowly more games like Sony's will begin disappearing from Steam.
Console shill fucking lost it at this point, holy shit
>>739674507>Buy a console as it's cheaper.And without the benefits of Steam and Linux? No thanks, I'll wait for the Steam Machine.
>>739688473>Steam and Linux>benefitsOnly if you're love workarounds and drm
>>739688473>linux>benefitslol
>>739688630>>739688586try harder, ween
>>739688473>benefitsWhat benefits?Hardware that only lets you play 2D indies like Cuphead? OS that shits itself on every update?You people are either Valve shills or you don't comprehend how weak this shitcube is.
>>739688586>>739688630What year is it?!
>>739688754You know you lost when you have to resort to spewing blatant bullshit.
>>739688586>workarounds and drmconsoles have both of those built in
>>739688754>Hardware that only lets you play 2D indies like Cuphead?Not even true. Low effort shitpost at this point.>>739688754Are you talking about Win11? Just stick to the stable releases.
>>739688754They're shills. Watch how they'll say every game with kernel level anti cheat isn't worth it. Or pretend that their first priority isn't getting forza horizon 6 to be playable while windows has worked flawlessly with it since release.
>>739643057Controller might be good, but the other thing doesn't exist and never will apart from prototypes.
Watch how when the steam machine benchmarks are absolutely dogshit they won't be posted here. Just like how there's zero switch 2 vs steam deck benchmarks.
do those pads stimulate your thumbs so they don't get tired or someshit?
>>739688950>Watch how they'll say every game with kernel level anti cheat isn't worth it.did you miss the part where riot exerted their power over people's hardware? do you really not mind being goycattle?
Linux users still need a windows emulator to run games, it's fucking ridiculous.
>>739688836>>739688926Enjoy your 5+ yo games in 768p and cinematic (and unstable) 20 FPS.
>>739688950>corpococksucker calling anyone else shillssasuga
>>739689076But I don't own a console, lol.
>>739689027What? We've got benchmarks. We know the deck's cpu shits all over the s2's for example.
>>739689027lol?
>>739689053>emulatorinteresting...
>>739689035>cites one instance of browns who are cheating over stating the issue to look like cheating>ignoring the other popular games with kernel level anti cheat that million of people play daily on pcDon't worry I'm sure when valve implements it in their VAC 2.0 or whatever the fuck you people will change up your scripts to accept it.
>>739689053it's called a compatibility layer, there is no hardware being emulated, merely just translating windows calls to calls linux can understandhence why it performs better than windows so often
>>739689076But I didn't buy a switch2.
>>739689027You're already getting btfo'd, but don't look up screen comparisons either bro. Life is a precious thing and suicide is not the answer.
>>739689053What's even more crazy about it. When you compare native Linux application is (such as emulators) to their Proton wine version. The native Linux app performs WORSE than the fucking windows version running through 16 lays of cope emulation layers. Linux development is absolutely abysmal. Don't worry though Linuxsisters we got that CoC update and removed the work white and black prefix from the word list!
>>739689053You are so tech illiterate and desperate I can only laugh.
>>739689218yes, it's one instance that represents the level of ass fucking you've agreed to by using kernel level shitand no, retard, linux simply doesn't have the capability to have spyware injected into the kernel like that
>>739689189>>739689183>doesn't even say switch 2 or version number or any fucking detailsF- see me after class.OH yeah that's right it's the middle of a work day for the most people so the valve shills get to be unemployed and dick ride gaben all day. Abandon thread
>>739689374Literally the opposite lol
>>739689494Your tears are delicious.
Lots of steamies saying>uhh actually not true!And providing zero fucking evidence of their claim or lackluster vauge bullshit like >>739689189 is fucking pathetic.
>>739689665you know you can't post that image since you're not white, right?
>>739689665>don't just make fun of me, it doesn't count!>don't just post proof, it doesn't count!
>>739689494>it doesn't count because it's not verbose enoughthe switch 2 specs are a known quantity you fucking idiot
>>739688950>They're shills. >Watch how they'll say every game with kernel level anti cheat isn't worth it.Unrelated statements.Also, you want to play Fortnite? Fine, stick to Windows, I'm not the one who's malding about people's OS preferences.>every game with kernel level anti cheat isn't worth itLow effort shipost. Is up to the devs if they want to enable linux compatibility for their anti-cheat software. Look at Marvel Rivals, The Finals, Helldivers 2...
>>739689218It is genuinely baffling how goys like you exist. Have some self-respect.
>>739690495It's contrarianism, mixed with stubbornness and a bit of stupidity. A sad combo.
>>739643057A media center with the ability to offer a decent gaming experience, seamlessly.
>>739651710Quite literally an uninformed post. You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about troon
>>739646286Holy cope batman!
Why are troonix sisters protecting drm?
Why are winjeets protecting drm?
>>739690908windows is way worse than any drmwhy did microsoft gatekeep directx so hard that valve had to figure out a way to bypass it entirely?
>They don't know how fucked microjeet is
>>739691780rather pay for a data center in government freshwater handouts than pay a n*gger
>>739643436Just described a gaming laptop except worse in all ways
>>739692847Then why is it making you shit your pants
>>739692847the closest comparable laptop is $1100amd has abandoned laptops and nvidia isn't a pragmatic choice on linux, it's an ideological one
>>739693748>amd has abandoned laptopsThey're selling more mobile chips than ever before. Stop just saying asspulled nonsense like a worthless autist.
>>739693820GPUs you fucking idiotrdna4 is completely absent and rdna3 is out of production, best you can get is used alienware with a 7900m or a bunch of leftover stock with the 7700s gpu
And people think that a steam machine will cost $600, hahaha
>>739643057you can play games and stuff on it.love it or hate him, lord Gaben is the only one fighting for us gaymers.
>>739652425Literally nothing stopping you from either using GOG or just pirating everything. Hell, do both then add non-steam games via Steam and get almost every benefit you'd have if you had bought it through Steam, like controller support and easy launching.
>>739643057>/v/-consoleMost of the anons here are tech illiterate, it has a familiar interface and they can "enjoy" "PC Games" that way.>Valve DronesThey will just buy it, they don't need it, but they will still buy it, because GabeN!>Linux EnthusiastsYes, they love Linux Hardware.>People with very old HardwareWould be smart to upgrade, considering current prices>And the real use casePeople with a huge steam library, wanting to play in the living room (without streaming).
>>739696229>tfw I have a deck OLED with upgraded storage, TMR sticks, a clicky d-pad and the whole nine yardsDamn I'm the richest man alive
>>739643057e-waste sold for 100x to their nigger cattle
>>739643436>no subscriptions>steam user agreement: you don't own anything
>>739700638so just like consoles except better
>>739700698>Gaben turning PC platform into a walled garden>better(You)
>>739700932Where are the limits of that supposed walled garden
>>739700932>walled garden
>>739700490>e-waste sold for 100x to their nigger cattle
literally e-waste with a non functional OS lmao
It's probably going to be $1300 minimum, whoch is disastrous. Unironically Nintendo and Sony won.
>>739701926>non functional OSbut it's not running windows
>>739701574all cheaper than your Steaming pile of shit
>>739702560yeah, as long as you omit sub costs and the price of being a goy that doesn't own their hardwarethe ps5 pro is on par with a $350 gpu
>>739643057Is there a real verdict now that it has been out for a while?
>>739702742again, wrong.
>>739702638physical copies can be resold, you can't do that with a Gaybenbox
>>739702963if it's just about the money then piracy rapes your entire argument
>>739702963>physical>in big 26kek
>>739643436>cheapguys who should tell him the news....
>>739703062>>739703076I accept your concession Steam drones.
>>739703361but you conceded here, cuckpiracy is cheaper than reselling physical and you get more out of those games too since you're not cucked by drm
>>739703361>"concession" postHe's run out of shitpos- I mean, arguments.
>>739703548>>739703556I accept your conession retarded fucking Steam drones. Literally fucking e-waste buying nigger cattle.
>>739703718>conessionjej, he's fucking malding at this point.
>>739703718>y-you're conceding>moves to insults because he has no way to rebuke piracy as an argument
>>739703795>le malding>le piracy>le I have no argumentschew on shit nigger
>>739703852>le>le>leliterally rabid at this point
>>739643057no point it init's made for nigger cattle or trans folks like in the trailer shown
>he's not even trying anymore
literally two troons in the trailerholy shit hahahahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA LITERALLY TWO TRANNIES INT HE FUCKING TRAILERHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAH
>ruins your mental sanitybased
e-waste ment for niggers
>e-wasteagree, don't waste your money on consoles, get a steam deck instead ;^)
Laughing my ass off at the amount of lies anti-Valve and tech-illiterate anons have been spreading. It was hilarious to see.Go touch some grass, anons, and fix your hearts.
