>>739648680I just used open Morrowind.
>>739648680it's a bethesda game either way, you should just skip it
>>739648680unmodded you fucking zoomer heathen
>>739648680Only with fixes for like stability if you have any issues like mentioned open Morrowind is a very stable option too but I would then advise you to get the patch for purists for the OG experience with stability, see you in Balmora muth sera
>>739648773fpbp and /thread
>>739648680Not OP but I recently booted this up for the first time and was pretty enchanted by it. Then I fought something. So is the key to this game to just not engage with the combat?
>>739648680I'm like 70 hours into my first time playing this game and just running openMW with no mods has been great. If I knew how to install mods (I'm too lazy to look it up) I would just get one that lets me hotkey spells to specific buttons and mouse buttons. I could fit like 6 or 8 more spells on binds and I wouldn't have to look at my spell menu as much I think it would just be better so I would recommend you do that if you know how to install them or want to
>>739649705The combat is really good. If you're missing everything at level 1 it means >your fatigue bar is low >you don't have any weapon skill for the weapon type If you picked a weapon type in a major skill and actually have that weapon and have a full or nearly full fatigue bar, even at level 1 combat is good. It gets better as your stats go up because the game is an rpg Honestly it has really good combat man you'll be surprised the engine is better than oblivion or skyrim you'll realize when you play a bit more
Note: do NOT use Patch for Purists. It introduces as many bugs as it fixes.
>>739649984You can already hotkey 1-9.
>>739650072>the engine is better than oblivion or skyrim you'll realize when you play a bit moreehhh I got to disagree.its lack of physics for objects is useful in that it prevents such physics from causing lag (and you cannot put pots on people's heads anymore) and the engine is the original source of the limitations on bethesda city sizes.the systems running on the game engine are (mostly) superior, not the engine itself.
>>739650156and that's not enough 1. Levitate 2. Fortify Speed 3. Heal 4. Ranged damage (i swap the element/school based on enemies)5. Touch damage (same deal) 6. Summon whatever my most common summon is 7. Mark 8. Divine intervention 9. Recall (I'm playing Atronach so I need to use these 3 spells a lot to restore mana) There are like a half dozen other spells I use often enough it's a pain not to have them hotkeyed like >light/nighteye >paralyze >ranged paralyze >more damage spells, aoe damage spells I just want a few more hotkeys but i also don't mind opening my spell list, it's very rpg which is cool i could just do it a little bit less and be happier
>>739650072I just figured it was a wizards game or something and that's what everyone who loved it played as.
>>739650295well maybe I don't know what an engine is, but I mean how the game responds to your inputs and how moving through the game feels. Morrowind has unfortunate collision physics in narrow places, which can be cringe, but can also be sort of based, like I got trapped in a crypt by a ghost in a corner with no mana to hit it and no weapon types to hit it and had to like cower there until i used a scroll to teleport out, felt like a real situation an adventurer might encounter in a crypt and was cool. I've also been trapped between npcs and smacked to death which felt good too, that's what would really happen
>>739648680Vanilla. Ignore mod niggers. I would recommend you play Morrowind for a few hours and level up and then install Tribunal and Bloodmoon for the patches. Also there are some extra plugins you can download that used to be on the official Morrowind site. They should be in the elder scrolls wiki.
>>739650394nah martial builds are probably more effective for general combat, just clicking your sword on someone costs no resources and does more damage than most destruction spells Magic is super good in every way though, but a lot of the game for me is just making a build that feels roleplay-y and doing stuff like that rather than just making the strongest build to win the game. It's a pretty easy game and you're not competing with anyone. melee combat is fun though you'll like it when you play/practice it more
>>739649705Take "breaths" between attacks so your stamina returns or drink stamina potions. As you grow stronger the stamina thing becomes less of a problem.
>>739650591>>739650643Last question. Is it worth exploring underwater or am I wasting my time? I went with a lizard man. So I could breath indefinitely underwater cause underwater secrets are my jam.
>>739650731I'm doing a sneak argonian playthrough on the side and I've been having a lot of fun doing underwater exploration. But I've only played that character a bit so i couldn't tell you >>739650643Alsopress the wait hotkey periodically to refresh fatigue, waiting takes literally 1 second and all your fatigue returns turn off auto walk before you engage in combat and after you finish fights in a cave or dungeon
>>739650731Yes, there ARE things underwater to find BUT there are also things that can kill you.https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F1wenst91e6y71.jpg>Inb4 reddit
>>739650930Forgot, see those little X marks on the west coast? I wonder what's there... ;)
Anyone who tells you to avoid mods for an elder scrolls game is a fool. The games have a deliberate lack of content to accommodate mods.
>>739651187>they will never sell boxed rpgs made by the most talented game developers containing big physical map posters and thick manuals detailing all the skills and races and stats and a notepad so you can write notes in game ever again What went so wrong?
>>739650474>how the game responds to your inputs and how moving through the game feelsmore a combination of the controls, animation/sounds, and atmosphere with morrowind, I would say.they did a really good job with making the "atmosphere" of morrowind that just sort of sucks you in as you move through the game and it responds to your inputs, like you said.That "atmosphere" was what MADE bethesda.That was its brand for so many years after morrowind.The feel of "just moving through" the game.But as you noticed, they failed to make it as good with the later games.
>>739649984>If I knew how to install mods (I'm too lazy to look it up) I would just get one that lets me hotkey spellsyou can already do that without mods
>>739651940you only get 9 though and I have more than 9 things i frequently use it would also be sick if i could like set 1 - fireball alt 1 - frostbolt shift 1 - lightning bolt etc, but i dunno if mods let you do that. I play classic wow with like 45 keybinds. I don't want that many in morrowind but i would like more than 9
>>739649984>>739652030oh nvm I see you are already running openMWuhhhhh you do need a mod for that still, I was wrong and stupid.I think the common mod is "Hotkeys Extended"
>>739652256oh nice it does let you use modifiers too I'll get it sometime when i feel like learning how to install them as im lazy and stupid
Openmw means you never beat it btw
>>739652483Why?
>dialogue with any npc>go to persuasion tab and spam taunt>disposition will drop to zero and they'll eventually attack you>you can kill them consequences-free and not be arrested by the guards>you can do this with almost any npc in the gameThis game literally lets me use the chud the builder strategy, incredible.
>>739650101Name 5
>>739651317Sony and Microsoft. I'm not kidding. They shoved money into the pockets of devs/publishers so they would get lazy. Nintendo was the last one still packing games with manuals.
>>739652839Here's 162:https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/45096?tab=bugs
Trannywind
>>739648680Don't listen to the retards it's and old game and you probably play it once and never again Look up the openmw path of the incarnate modlist and go with that one. Ignore the autists
>>739652570Not the devs intended way to play
>>739654383retard>>739654447super retard
>>739652483>oh noooo he didnt "beat" the braindead easy rpg that even a noob will break in half in 5 different ways
Name a single gameplay difference in OpenMW vs MWSE.
>>739655090openmw fixes the bug where blind makes you more likely to hit instead of less likely
>>739652483I never did and will never do the morrowind main quest in 700h+, i don't think it matters that i play openmw or not
>art when morrowind
>>739648680>modded or vanillaopenMW + expansion delay is all you needif you want to replay it afterwards, install Tamriel Rebuilt but don't do that your first time through, it'll just be overwhelming
>>739656587>art when now really makes you wonder
>>739654447>you VILL suffer ze bugsno
Abusing alchemy is not an exploit in a world full of overconfident wizards who fly too close to the sun. Cheesing vendor restocks to get netch leather and ash yams is, however.
>>739648680vanilla, I copy paste my install between computers for decades
>>739648680I use the I Heart Vanilla modlist with OpenMW, which is both modded and vanilla. Mostly bugfixes and very minor quality of life stuff. Still the same game.
>>739657028But at what point does it become cheese that they restock? Like logically vendors would resupply at some point in the game world because almost all alchemy ingredients are biological renewable resources. Ash yams and netch leather in particular are very common ones.
>>739650072>the combat is really good
>>739648680Seconding OpenMW with I Heart Vanilla. Then if there are any other mods you want you can just install those on top of it.
>>739660519Hlaalu really is proven to be the worst at every turn in Morrowind.>saint of your people has been reincarnating, trying to save you from both false gods and an ethereal demon who wants to mindrape you all>he reincarnated as a woman this time and could only get help from your house after one of your highest-ranking officials - an imperial to boot - demanded a sexual favor in exchange for sponsorshipGlad they were basically wiped out after the Red Year, it was wholly deserved.
>>739660519Doggy style with a hairy pussied Dark Elf WHEN??
play it in VR and main unarmed + levitate so every cliff racer fight is like a dragon ball z scene then fly over to a rock in the middle of the ocean and meditate to the sun going down. no mods only vr mode.
>>739660959That's incorrect. You don't have to strip to be Hlaalu hortator. You only have to do it to rise in Hlaalu's ranks after joining.
>>739662793Things we know about Dunmer women- Hairy pussy- Smell good- Universally tsundere- Sexually attracted to pillows
>>739648680Use the ai voice acting mod so you dont gotta read everything, its in the correct voices so its def worth. If bethwsda could have done thisntheybwould havehttps://youtu.be/FMuh7A5jwpo?si=h9ib55W0tsMLSOHihttps://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/52279
>>739650731Yes, underwater exploration is worth it, but still don't just swim out into the middle of the ocean and expect to find something on the bottom. But there will be plenty of flooded caves or sunken ships that you could find valuable things inside of, that would otherwise be difficult to explore for someone that does not have water breathing potions or magic.
>>739665512I appreciate you sharing this, but... just because Bethesda would have done it doesn't mean we should....
>>739650072>>The combat is really goodUhh whatIt's literally just auto attacking while standing in placeThere is no stamina management, you just rest between fights and spend all the stamina at onceIt's literally worse than level 1 WoW combat, and by level 2 when you get 2 abilities, WoW combat beats Morrowinds
>>739665512I'm not interested in using the mod but I'm very interested in how they made it so I can make the NPCs say my own lines
>>739665810>just because Bethesda would have done it doesn't mean we should....Almost everyone did it? Obsidian, Bioware, From, Larian, Kingdom Cum devs etc
>>739665169
>>739665887Just because almost everyone did it doesn't mean we should....
>>739665851eleven labs prolly
>>739648680Modded is so superior that playing vanilla is agonizing by comparison
>>739665953Its better than having no voice acting, owlcat could learn a thing from this mod
>>739652795>WE HAVE A N'WAH CHIMPING OUT!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgOCaqgzpmM
use the multiplayer mod and let me play with you
>>739650474Kek. Welcome to Morrowind n'wah.
>>739649317openmw you fucking dinosaur retard
OP here, i decided to use openmw, i like how funny they walk kek
>>739648680With mods that make it stop being a walking Sim text game if possible. Cavemen seethe.
>>739648680play vanilla on OpenMW, introduce basic quality of life mods if you really want then if you find you like the game, install TR, PT and any other interesting mods for subsequent playthroughs
>>739669974there's mods that change the walking, combat and casting animations as well as one that lets your see your equipped weapon and shield on your back, just need to set up the options for it in the OpenMW launcher after downloading
>>739659870idk but I'm gonna do a run without merchant restocking, including gold, not sure if it will be fun or not
>>739648680Trannywind
>>739671926Nooooooooooooooooooooooo
anyone has any experience with Bardcraft mod?can any midi song work with the mod or will it choke if I load something with 30.000+ notes?and how does it work exactly? I saw
>>739671730>one that lets your see your equipped weapon and shield on your backWeapon sheathing is a mandatory mod for me
How is the consensus around Tribunal and Bloodmoon? I hated Tribunal and the Bloodmoon quest with the five stones drove me nuts.
>>739648680It's literally unplayable unmoddedAs in you will get 5 fps
>>739674215Bloodmoon mod that makes the island not hideous is mandatory, haven't used a mod to make the difficulty less retarded but maybe I will.I like the quests on it and the equipment is cool.Tribunal on the other hand I'd love a complete overhaul. Insane enemies, shitty dungeons, but I can't wait to be able to walk to mournhold. One fucking day.
>>739674250well that's not true at all
>>739674336Old software is finicky in winslop 11 so my bet is on that.
>>739674430I guess, I mean if someone is retarded enough to use win11 then there's all too real a possibility that they won't be able to run a century old game.
>>739674215Tribunal main quest is boring af, but the city and side quests are pretty cool
>>739674305>Bloodmoon mod that makes the island not hideous is mandatoryLandscape stuff in that mod is great but they completely ruined all the tombs by Skyrimizing them.
>>739650072The combat was garbage even when it was released. You don't have to spin things just because you like the game.
>>739650072>The combat is really good.Btw when Morrowind release, the combat was seen as worse than Daggerfall (due to not being tactile or satisfying or varied or fun) and worse than literally any other RPG too both regarding tactile properties, action-wise and of course its complete absence of tactics and strategy
>>739659870The certain vendors that immediately restock whatever item, say Ash Yams, to whom you can then resell your ash yams, doubling their stock ad infinitum. Not sure why Openmw preserved that bug and the specific vendors it affects other than it being so esoteric that you're unlikely to find it naturally.
>>739674430>>739674578Dipshits
>>739677040Why mad?
>>739648680Played it for 70h didn't finish it because i got boredBut kino game
