>STAND>AND>FIGHTWhat the FUCK were they thinking, /v/?
sneed and feed
slaughterslop but consoles couldn't handle the enemy numbers
>ah fuck the casuals are turning on us and people are starting to say shit like "doom eternal was never good">our new game is already chock full of eternal mechanics>what if we re-orient those mechanics to make them accessible to people who think that asking you to hit more than like three buttons during a fight in a shooter is a crime against the genreand now nobody is excited :(
Why do these retards keep bloating FPS games with so many meme mechanicsJust give us a bunch of guns and a bunch of different enemies you can shootHow is this so hardIm playing these games to click shit and shoot shit not play some mediocre rhythm game
>>739657307The same as every game made in the last few years: Parry parry parry parry parry parry parry parry. Are you parrying yet? DONT YOU LOVE TO FUCKING PARRY???!!!
>>739657618>Why do these retards keep bloating FPS games with so many meme mechanicsmechanics are fun
>>739657307There's something about the look of this game, and eternal, that seems hand-crafted to appeal to those whose body fat percentage is above 30%; Warhammer fantasy is another example of this.
How were they able to make a game like Doom feel so gay
>>739658334And steampunk settings. And doctor who.
>>739657307DOOM fans are like GodHand fans. They don't actually like the games just the prestige they think it brings
>>739657689Theres nothing fun about being autistic
>>739657307I uninstalled after a few hours. Why did the game feel so bad to me? Anyone else?
>>739657307It would have been better if the bullet hell portions were faster and not able to be customized. Them being slow by default was a mistake.
>>739658498actual doom fans are playing the OG
>>739657307The shield made the game too easy.
nu-doom feels weirdfirst game was kinda ok - a modern reimagining of a retro game but sequels are kinda meh
>>739657689Go play Bop It, nerd
>>739657512This reminded me about that fuckling steam review about how some gamer dad couldn't get past eternals platforming sections.And the review pretty much reads like a schizophrenic combination between autistic coping and unabombers manifesto
>>739657307>MUH MARVEL
>>739660205https://youtu.be/m2ci1lWqG5kread the comments
>>739660310lmao
>>739659212those guys seem to have a lot of fun whenever a train goes by
>>739660310Jesus christ what the fuck?These "people" should just be working the land and feeding animals.
duermen de pie los pingüinos?
>>739660021>voiced by Debra WilsonLmfao. You can't make this shit up.
>>739659952Based 2016 enjoyers
>>739657307Crazy how quickly this was forgotten
the OKest game ever. I played it, basically enjoyed it, thought it was fine. beat all difficulties, uninstalled, never thought about it again
>>739660310okay not being able to do this is retarded, but it's also true that I play doom to shoot things, not jump around and mantle ledges like some gay faggot
>>739657689I agree but Eternal did get a bit retarded with it.>you've got your grenades>and your ice grenades>and your fire grenades>and your big punch>and your glory kills>and your air dash>and every single one of these is bound to a different key>and you zip and zoom and flip and wall run around every arena like you're the fucking prince of persiaApparently Dark Ages added parrying or some shit? I skipped it.
I liked 2016I liked EternalI liked Dark Ages (but not the dragon parts)
>>739657307They were thinking they couldn't top Eternal and wanted to finally make a Quake game for gods sake but marketing said no.
>STAND AND FIGHT>SAY WHAT YOU FEEL>BORN WITH A HEART OF STEELhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLj1ofuR6Fk
>>739657307Be real people is the combat the problem or the simon says colored attack nosense?never played exactly because the colored attacks are lame
>>739662074They make her hot(than the VA)Soo what is the problem?Debra is hated because they keep using her face in her work
>>739657619Nignog melty
>>739663770pianoing your weapons and abilities is kooldark ages was lame because it condensed almost everything using all your weapons and grenades does into "shield bash, shield toss, parry" so it all feels the same
>>739660310What?This is like just basic spamming jump and dash at the right time.The super shotgun swinging looks much harder if you have no idea what you're doing.Or the 'kill the floating big demon within 20~30 seconds' technique when you switch your guns and jump around.
They were thinking about me, the audience.
>>739664239>the simon says colored attack nosensethe goal of this was that the enemy will fire 30 projectiles and one of them is green, so dodge all the shit to the green thing and parry it to stun the targetmobs in Dark Ages shoot a lot more projectiles at once than a DOOM2 levelThe problem is just that Dark Ages is just too easy because you can kill mobs BEFORE you need to do this cool parry wade-through-the-projectiles thingIronically none of the criticisms of Dark Ages memed on /v/ really capture whats wrong with the design, idk why But overall Dark Ages is very much 2016 tier in terms of complexity/difficulty and really needs a DARK AGES ETERNAL to maximize the potentialimo>hugo should make it so heated up armor is destroyed by melee, not by the shield throw, makes no sense>and make it so you can and should and would want to use all 3 melee weapons at once for different goals/functions
>>739667831for a lot of people first person platforming is inconceivable because judging distance without depth perception or maintaining awareness of things that aren't on the screen is a skill they just don't have.
>>739658368thank that spic fuck in charge
>>739668183imo 2016 is significantly more fun/intense than dark agesi feel like if you leaned into making it more like serious sam where it's about managing hordes in interesting ways and not just "shield toss to get the fuckass fodder out of the way and then parry duel the big guy" it would be betterdesu killing swapping was just a mistake it feels good to have a bunch of options you can access
>>739668183It becomes a lot more fun if you crank all the difficulty modifiers up and the parry window down.
>>739668382>shield toss to get the fuckass fodder out of the way and then parry duel the big guyyeah this is probably the biggest mistake in the game, its supposed to be a single target replacement for the grenade but IMO shield throw should have ONLY been a 'throwable parry' that if you time correctly, parries niggas/projectiles from a distance. The insta-nuke combos it enables destroys the complexity of the game, and it being how you destroy heated up legions makes it a glorified Glory Kill but without the fun of getting close ergo no positioning
>>739657618It's not hard, which is why there's a billion of those games on the market, why they were able to reboot Doom, and why they were able to have a successful sequel. They just worried that, after taking their allotted dips at the well, they would have to innovate and shake things up to continue to hold interest, since that's whst the audience constantly asks for If anything, the hard part is understanding that gamers are liars, and that they truly only want the same slop over and over and over again.
>>739660310>long, empty corridor>surely they're just loading in a massive action sequence>nah it's just a jumping "puzzle">it's also empty
>>739659350Same, loved 2016, eternal was OK, but this was just fucking boring. Uninstalled like an hour in. Witchfire did a better job with that visual setting
>>739657307more likeSTAND AND WATCH THIS GAY ASS CUTSCENE
>>739657307I don't know, I didn't buy it, looks bad
>>739657307Where is the DLC for this game lmao
>>739657307It's just as challenging as Eternal if you play it on 150% speed. I liked it
Eternal > TDA > 2016
>>739657307>people like our games because we're strict with the combat loop!>they want us to do something new!That's what they were thinking.
>>739663352That why the platforming is like 20 seconds tops for anyone with a functioning brain.They aren't a big feature they're little moments of rest and deescalation before the next fight.The tried and true method of rising and falling intensity.
nuId doesn't get enough love for the fact that they released the tools they used to build Eternal as modding toolsHonestly pretty based, and fulfills what Martin said about making more Eternal vs taking risks and innovating
>>739669326They really shot themselves in the foot with the accessibility optionsYou would think soulslop taught devs that users can't choose the difficulty for themselves
>>739658334>Warhammer fantasyI'd agree if you said 40k but keep Fantasy out of your goddamn mouf
>>739657307it sucks that we got this crap after eternal which was good
>>739670650I'm assuming its a Microsoft thing as Microsoft was always the no1 company in regards to gaming accessibility interestingly enough (whether hardware or software)
>>739658334Yeah it looks like it was made for nerdsI can imagine the horror for a normalfag like yourself
>>739666107>pianoing your weapons and abilities is koolagreedthe best thing eternal did was give you a lot of toys and reasons to use themi hated the microwave gun but everything else was good
>>739657307I actually played the game, unlike anyone in the thread. You don't stand and fight except in a few very specific instances when you've killed every other enemy, you run and gun. Perhaps more than ever because the game gives you a stinger up front which is your best move.
>>7396695322016>TDA>>>Eternal
My fingers were actually sore from the Dualsense controller going apeshit slapping the green back at those last two bosses.
>>739671408You have objectively shit taste.
>>739657307This is the evolution of eternal, just what "you" wanted but everyone who ever claimed to like eternal over the last doom was a shill or a dumb /v contrarian doing it entirely for free because they wanted to call people filteredSo that's what you get, ppl don't even want to try this shit because it already smells as bad as eternal just watching clips of it
>>739672303>the evolution of eternal is>fewer tools>less mobility>no platforming>reflecting projectiles
>>739672894so ultrakillhttps://youtu.be/qrdvAWGtkCM?t=3474
>>739657307>What the FUCK were they thinking, /v/?"parryslop"
>>739672303Yeah pretty much, when Doom 2016 released I was hopeful they might continue to course-correct away from Doom 3 into something more similar to classic Doom, though Doom 2016 itself clearly wasn't that. Instead in Eternal they pushed farther away and added "story" and some sort of weird fisher price demon infestation aesthetic, totally not what I wanted. I haven't even played Dark Ages since it looks like everything gay and wrong with Eternal has become a staple of the franchise now.The best Doom one can play is still some WADs out there people quite literally make for free, the fuckhuge company with massive budgets making new Doom games somehow cannot compete with some dudes in their bedrooms modding shit. Sad and disappointing.
>>739675530> I haven't even played Dark Ages since it looks like everything gay and wrong with Eternal has become a staple of the franchise now.good choice, for some reason they thought people actually liked the lore in eternal, and the result was dark ages
>>739657307I give them credit for trying to innovate, even if it ended up being complete garbage
>>739657618This, innovation in shooters should be in level design and enemy design. Just give me a bunch of guns and let me use whichever one I want whenever. None of this blue guns for blue monsters red guns for red monsters shit that became so popular recently
>>739677467That's DA though. You can literally just beat the game with whatever guns you like and they're all pretty decent. Eternal is the game that was all about every demon having a specific weakness weapon.
I played all Doom games and I liked them to certain degree. Loved 2016 but Eternal? Terrible with even worse dlcs. When I saw TDA being ping pong with shield I gaved up on this series.
I don't get the hate on the platforming in Eternal the original Doom games also had light platforming elements.They're really short
>>739682220Eternal's platforming sections are strange obstacle courses that look wildly out of place for the setting. I would expect to see something like that in a mario game, not an FPS about shooting demons to screaming heavy metal. The original's platforming sections were purely diagetic.
