Who did you pick?
>>739657661Not as bad as Reddit would have you believe
If Three Houses' premise didn't have an avatar MC, Claude feels like he absolutely would be the protagonist. He comes from outside of Fodlan and thus isn't caught up in its ruinous bullshit like Edelgard and Dimitri are, he has at least some tie to make him care a bit about the place, and he's looking for the answers to everything while leading a rag-tag group and trying to be crafty in ways that lend themselves well to getting recruits. His route ends up discovering basically everything, defeating the Agarthans in their HQ and defeating what's left of Adrestia and Agartha in the post-game endings. His route is basically a wild ride with him also learning about history and people, culminating in bringing forth a new era with none of the baggage that Edelgard, Dimitri, or even Byleth do.
>>739657661I didn't play it because I'm not into school games with hags
>>739657661Lions for story Deers for chill persona house and church content.Eagles if you're fucking weird. Church if you want goddess milkers.
>>739657956He also obliterates Fodlan's native culture, massively imports Almyrans to annihilated their genetics, further fractures and divides society by implanting a foreign legal system with him serving as a dictator of two countries, and basically you're the mental equivalent of a modern liberal college woman.
>>739657661I did all four routes in order of CF AM VW SS.AM had the best story, but VW was comfiest. Getting to marry your sexy grandma was a plus. CF has no positive qualities.Remaster with Shez when?
>>739658151Claude does none of those things, you're thinking of what his Hopes self seemed likely to do. That's not his Houses' self, and I'm talking about character roles and routes removed from an avatar getting the MC status.
>>739657802And not as good as fans would have you believe. The prospect of having multiple years worth of more 3houses discourse is painful. Fuck Fortune's nappy weave.
>>739657661Golden Deer
>>739657661>cute girl>church/hitler>black dudei went with the cute girl, im sorry.
>>739658373>>cute girl>>church/hitler>>black dude>i went with the cute girl, im sorry.... Femdimitri?
>>739658224Both games were written by the same people who were disappointed that people like (You) thought Claude was killing the CEO of Racism instead of realizing that he's a conniving little twat who's carried to the finish line by the efforts of literally everyone else. This conversation is over, you're delusional and I'm not going to reduce myself to your level.
>>739657661I like the lore a lot.The story could be better, but wasn't as bad as some fuckers pretend it is.
>>739658421what's with the dick sucking lips
>>739658221Yeah unfortunately CF was rushed. Only pros it had were Jeritza and getting to hear The Apex of the World earlier
>>739658483What's wrong with them?
>>739658151Is that from Hopes?Because holy shit, he does basically the opposite in Houses.He just fucks off to Almyra and leaves Byleth to rule a church based continent with everything except Adrestian culture intact.
>>739657661Yellow.
Why are Shamir's tits so fucking huge in the gremory outfit? I thought she had a svelte athletic body. How am I supposed to focus with these heaving fucking breasts right next to my head?
i really wish Three Hopes had an adventure/history mode. one of the best musou games i've ever played and it was fucking rushed.
>>739658595Percentage modifiers, son.Also, her default outfit is her wearing a leather corset that goes up her chest.
>>739658682The history mode maps were instead used as the filler levels between main chapters.Yeah, it's disappointing. I wish they kept them for bonus modes, too. But that's where they went.Warriors 1 had like ~20 story chapters and then a few dozen history mode chapters.Hopes had like 60 story chapters and then wedged the dozens of smaller maps in between those.I hope the next Warriors is either FEW2 or Heroes Warriors, and just spams the fuck out of history/adventure maps.
>>739658682First it needed the Agarthan route where Myson is able to convince Shez to join up so they can successfully kill the Fell Star, and then the Church route where Shez rejects any lord's offer to stay in their territory for three years and tries to return to the Academy, only to find it closed down by Rhea's orders and Shez is given the opportunity to join the Knights after Alois leaves to rejoin Jeralt.
>>739658221Deer girls are the best. The only dud is Leonie (and she gets better after the time skip), the other 3 are 3 of the top 5 girls in the game.
>>739658832Shez is the best avatar. Prove me wrong.
>>739658808we're getting fortune's weave warriors.
>>739658872Forget about top 5 I have them as my literal top 3. Lysithea is my wife.
>>739658903I literally can't prove you wrong, Shez is the kind of retard I can get behind.
>>739659086>tfw have every Shez except for NinjaShame. I rolled for her, too. But only got Gullveig and Yunaka.
>>739658448Claude has the risk of becoming a twat hovering over him as his character weakness, but that still works out for an MC. Claude goes on to actually be a hero in Three Houses. Three Hopes chooses to explore the possibility of him going full twat, which also ties into how Shez is basically not allowed to exist in a setting where things properly resolve without Byleth because avatar MC fans get too pissy.
>>739659296Post the official art.
>>739659183My interpretation of the difference between Houses Claude and Hopes Claude is that Houses Claude gives up on his power fantasies once Byleth becomes Enlightened and breaks out of the shadow realm. Claude realizes that Byleth is stronger, more intelligent, and basically Claude's only option at that point is to become Byleth's best buddy instead of manipulating them. Meanwhile, Hopes Claude never meets Byleth, and while Shez is strong, they're also an easily-controlled idiot. Without Byleth in the way, Claude can become King of Leicester and kill Rhea years earlier.>>739659150Hers isn't as good as Kamui's or Camilla's ninja outfits, but I still understand your frustrations.
Were personal skills a mistake? I see the point since reclassing killed a lot of unit identity, but still seems like a lotta work for stuff that literally doesn't matter 99% of the time, and the remaining 1% is gigabroken.
>>739659359She definitely has one of the worst ninja outfits, even compared to that banner. But I just wanted Shez.
>>739657661>Teacher, teacher! Edelgard is being a bully!
>>739659315>ywn rape depressed Constance and then get reverse-raped by the manic Constance when she finds out about itIT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR BROS
I started Radiant Dawn and I'm fucking loving it.
>>739659435>Did she file the correct paperwork?
>>739659378I can understand why some people might think personal skills were a mistake. I view them as a compromise to allow for units to reclass so they aren't stuck as a single class every run. The unit has a kind of niche, rather than a limited role. I only have a problem with personal skills in games with the ability to have units become any class with minimal effort, like in 3H.
>>739659468it gets really fucking hardprobably the hardest FE game I've played by far. If you don't put all your XP into a few characters like Haar you just hit a brick wall at the end of the game. Plus there's nothing extra available to grind for XP like there is in sacred stones
>>739659359Byleth is more of a guiding mentor and a lens for observing the world to Houses Claude. Claude can still run circles around Byleth as far as political plans are concerned, and Claude has to fend for himself for five years with what he has learned at the academy.
Cutesythea
>>739659468I love Missy and her band of retards
>>739657661CF is the best despite it being incomplete.
>>739659296>>739659315I don't consider myself a waifufag. But Sheva and Hapi give a visceral feeling of happiness whenever I see them
>>739659579I partially disagree because Claude's personality changes completely after Chapter 10. Claude does get a new perspective after realizing that Byleth represents the Church and the Church isn't as awful as he conceived it to be, though. There's also Claude's discussions with Cyril about Rhea, too. As for being on his own for five years, that's a sign of Claude's weakness. It makes sense that Dimitri and Edelgard would stalemate because Faerghus has so many Relics and Adrestia has so many soldiers, but Claude being unable to exploit anything during that time shows how he's both militarily ineffectual in comparison and unable to perform grand strategy in the way the Slithers do (and they're already horribly incompetent). Houses Claude needs Byleth, and Hopes Claude needed a massive invasion force, the Almyrans, to do anything.Yes, I believe Claude is a fraud and is entirely carried by his charisma.
Talking about the story imo is weird, because the structure for figuring out the story is dogshit and then things vary wildly depending on the route. And not in a good way, but more of one that exposes more flaws in the plot.>Edelgard's route is unfinished and has a bunch of characters act wildly out of character in order to justify her in being the good guy of the story>Dimitri's route is probably the best written, but that's because it's just focused on his personal journey and not all the retarded shit that's surrounding Fodlan and the War.>Claude's route is just a lore dump, so the characters aren't as strong, but this is one of two routes that actually bothers to explain all the retarded shit>Silver Snow is just Claude's route recycled, but you can bang Rhea at the endThe character writing for the most part is good, but the story isn't any better than FE plots usually are imo. Really made a mistake by giving Edelgard a route that wasn't a straight up evil route, and introducing the stupid mole people shit that's the true evil pulling the strings behind the scenes. If they had just left it as 3 kingdoms turning from allies to warring against each other with a sprinkle of dragon bullshit, it would've been a more effective story.
>>739657661Dimitri then Rhea, not perfect but I enjoyed it a lot, as we would find out later from the devs they were the only non-rushed stories. Took a break and then picked Edelgard and Claude, and their routes weren't great.
>>739659829Post-Chapter 10 is when all of the minor good influences and learned info start adding up to something greater. Byleth's possible role as head of the church makes things more convenient, but it's irrelevant as far as Claude's awareness of what the church already is (Byleth him/herself is a total outsider to it and its culture). Cyril does have good talks with Claude. As for the war, Houses Claude manages to keep Leicester on its feet and as an Alliance while Hopes Claude struggles more and ends said Alliance early on. Houses Claude manages to stay afloat for much longer, not undermine Leicester, and requires less from Almyra, and he is against the full Agarthan-Adrestian war machine rather than the two being at odds to boot.
>>739659296>>739659315Why are brown girls so sexy? (I'm white)
>>739660074isis unironically thought that players would only stay with one route and wouldnt bother playing the others and they wanted fans to argue about who was good and who was evil
>Are you okay, anon? I promised the captain I'd look after you, so take care of yourself a little better, okay?
dimitri obviously
You know what I never hear "Edelgard did nothing wrong"fags talk about?How she was fine enabling and keeping the employ of a genuine serial killer on hand and even renting him out to the molemen.
>>739657661blue, but my first run was green. you get everything in blue that you do in green and more
>>739659829Okay let's give Claude a tiny bit of grace here. The biggest problem with Leicester is that the powers are divided (mostly) evenly between the 5 houses of the Roundtable. Meaning most of the time they're trapped arguing with each other rather than doing literally anything. House Gloucester will jump ship to the Empire because the Empire is on their front door, unless they have some guarantee for their safety. House Ordelia spent like 10 years being fucked in the ass by the Empire and therefore doesn't have the resources to fight back in any meaningful way. House Goneril is stuck in Fodlan's Lockett fighting Almyrans for the rest of eternity. And House Edmund, actually I don't know what House Edmund is doing. That effectively means House Reigen has to fight all by themselves unless Claude can find a way to unify the Roundtable. Which only happens if Dimitri saves their asses, Edelgard conquers them, or they fall in under literal god
>>739660172>isis unironically thought that players would only stay with one routeI don't actually mind that concept, BUT ONLY IF each route is actually consistent with what is revealed in the story, just from a different perspective. But when you have >The Black Eagle Fanfic Route>The FE Protag Route>The Lore Route ft. Claude>The Lore Route ft. SetethNow you're just taking the piss. Especially if you aren't going to at least diversify the maps for each route so that replaying the game 4 times for the full story isn't the biggest fucking slog in franchise history.
>>739657661Blue Lions. Initially it was because I was least interested in them, and wanted to get the "boring" path out of the way first.It ended up being the only one I really enjoyed.
>>739660337House Edmund was the wealthiest at the table, but that was dependent on free trade. With the war going on, and Marianne being unsuitable to inherit the house while her aging adoptive father was dying at home, meant that it was rapidly losing power and influence. Margrave Edmund was also Leicester's best orator, yet without the ability to leave home, he wasn't able to help rally the Alliance in any way, shape, or form.
>>739660074I did the deer route and the mole people reveal is so disjointed and silly>omg guys what is this letter from edelgard>"good job defeating us sensei but the final boss is actually these guys"
>>739656721for the Citrinne bro
>>739660571>"by the way hubert invented calculus to calculate the launch point of the nukes this is where the mole people live"
>>739660637
Which semi-canon paring would you guys ntr? For me it's Neimi and Colm.
>>739660637>>739660676sex
Will the story be better or worse than 3H?Place your bets now.
For me, it's repopulating Fodlan after the war.>>739660754Worse. The only way the story could've been good taking place in FE3H's world is if it happened everywhere except Fodlan, like a globe-trotting adventure visiting places like Morfis and Brigid.
>>7396607543hs story was an unfinished dogshit mess so can't be any worse.
>>739660754>not writter by KoeiWorse.
>>739660637>>739660676Awesome! Thanks anon! Maybe I can now finish all those drawings I attempted with this outfit
>>739660820>The only way the story could've been good taking place in FE3H's world is if it happened everywhere except FodlanIsn't the FW set in some new land?
>>739660841>so can't be any worse.Komuro might unironically be the writer on FW.
>>739660936Looks like Almyra to me, which is technically a new land, but it's also a prequel (?) so who fucking cares.
>>739660379Well this part I don't entirely mind since bias is a cornerstone of the narrative. One man's heroic king is another man's savage monster based on what you know and how much grace you're willing to give. Every leader has blood on their hands so the argument of who was right mostly comes from how much benefit of the doubt you're willing to give. The main reason people call Edelgard a dumb dumb isn't just because Edelgard calls Nemesis a hero. Hell she didn't get that from nowhere, her father told her that and Edelgard trusts him. However 2 groups of people from opposing sides both call Nemesis a crazy bloodthirsty bandit. Unless you want to argue that Rhea and the Agarthans concocted the same story, it's fair to say that Edelgard was wrong, that he wasn't a hero, and that he was a crazy bloodthirsty bandit that the Slitherers used as their beat stick.I think it can be pretty fun discussing a narrative like this because there's always a truth but that truth is always filtered through the person telling it. I like Seteth. But it is true he's always censoring things. CF is my least favorite route but I like Hubert because he's never afraid to speak truth to power even if that means defying Edelgard's orders. Hell I came out of my first CF run thinking Edelgard doesn't deserve Hubert. With that said, this is also where the tribalism comes from. If you've decided your chosen leader is never wrong in any context then that's where you get the shitflinging and where anything that doesn't support your favorite lord is just bad writing rather than your hero having blood on their hands
>>739660754I mean, I'm not expecting much from the story considering the last FEs. But if I can impregnate this bitch, then the story is irrelevant to me
>>739661004>prequel
>>739660754I just hope the story structure is different.Really don't need another near decade of "Cai did nothing wrong." discussions.
>>739661194Why is Leda so perfect?
>>739661304
for me, it's the loli baba
>>739660673He followed the magical trails instead, so it wasn't missile physics.
>>739660981Sounds like an improvement to me
>>739660981Shut the fuck up, tell me you're making that up right now
>>739660981oh ffs
>>739661921A Koei worker confirmed that FW is not one of the projects Koei are currently working on. So that means someone else is writing it.Unless Kusakihara himself decides to write it, then it's most likely IS's writing team. And the lead writer at IS is Nami Komuro.Until further notice, she's the most likely candidate.
>>739662106I for one can't wait to play Fire Emblem: Awakening IV - Fortune's Weave.
The Blue Lions mog the other houses so fucking hard it's embarrassing. But most people who play FE are genuine retards so BE and GD still get talked about for some reason
>>739662291The flaw with BL is that their overall student roster only really appeals to girls. So if you're a guy, you kinda need to recruit from GD.Ideally, GD shouldn't have been a route option, and instead was always a house exclusively to recruit units from.
>>739662463Ingrid, Annette, and Mercedes do their jobs well. Hilda is lame, both Leonie and Marianne are forgettable, and Lysithea's alright
>>739662291Okay fujo
>>739657661>Poach Dorothea>"We killed Ferdie Professor, he used to be our friend. Do you remember those days?"Lions or Deer every time.
Marriage with Marianne!
>>739662638built for boars
>>739662630His fault for having his B support locked to post time skip and needing heavy armor ranks because armor gives him a rock hard cock
>>739657661I played Azure Moon and then the Church route and never did the other two. Edelgard felt like a retard in both routes. The protag for the next game is kinda ugly though and they should've made the guy on the ship the protag cause he looks cool.
Lorenz is fucking dead!
>>739662695>should've made the guy on the ship the protagGuy on the ship?
If armor knights are so bad then why are they the last to die in the battlefield?
>>739662914Gilliam is still dead, bro. He died first.
>>739662914Because they're still trying to catch up to corpses of their former comrades
>>739662969Proofs?
>>739662741Lucius will take ne romancing Ishtar in the remake like a cuck.
>>739658682Hopes was fun but I think I still prefer Hyrule or FE Warriors because everything just felt faster in those games, after you unlock Astra in FEW ofc. This might just be a me issue but in Persona 5 Strikers, Hyrule Age of Calamity, and Three Hopes everyone just felt like they were in slow motion and underwater in comparison. Shez being the sole exception because of the unique class and just simply how fast he swings the two swords
>>739662914Evwryone says armlrs bad but tjen they have a hard time killing armors like the Chad armors from CQ Chapter 18
>>739662638I was waiting for you, bro, you had me worried!
>>739663170i find it hard to go back to DE after playing every new musou game actually. i really enjoy using the new active skills to keep a combo going. Brawler was my favorite class in three hopes, felt really satisfying to play. i actually didn't like Shez' unique class, cuz it felt like he was going all over the place instead of fighting that one guy you were locking on.
>this is the status quo that Rheatard wants to preservejust put the revolution in the bag bro
>>739663298>tfw want to play more of Warriors 1>but I've done everything>and everything in Hopes>the enemies in AoC and AoI literally do not move, so there's no strategyFuck. Heroes Warriors can't come soon enough.
>>739663305Now post the one talking about how Margrave Gautier has to fight off Sreng by himself, as in with no additional soldiers assisting him, because Faerghus is poor for a Kingdom and can't indulge in wanton bloodshed of commoners like the psychopathic Adrestian nobles who have become the bourgeoisie, and if it wasn't for the Crest system Fodlan would've been invaded by Sreng and Almyra centuries ago.
>>739657661So what are the odds the next FE is gonna have better writing than Engage but completely fuck over the gameplay? Why is getting an FE with both a good story and gameplay nonexistent?
>Hate the artist of Three Houses and Fortune's Weave as everyone looks like a frog>Hate the artist of Engage as it's too moeCan't we just get the artist who did Awakening and Fates back?
>>739663513Because IS themselves admit they don't know what people like about FE.
>>739663615>Can't we just get the artist who did Awakening and Fates back?If you played Heroes within the last few years, you would not want him back.
>>739663615>the artist who did Awakening and Fatesthis one was also shit
>>739663615>Toilet armor
>>739660274why is 3H art so fucking bad
>>739663505>invade and conquer half of Sreng>Sreng fights back>"Oy vey this is literal genocide you filthy srengoyim don't you know the Kingdom was promised this land 3000 years ago!"
i think 3h and fortune's weave art is peak fire emblem.
>>739663716Because a lot of it is done by that hack Kusokihara instead of the woman who actually designed the characters. Have fun with him having even more artistic control in FW!
>>739662904This guy from the nintendo direct
For me, it's Hidari.
>>739663834I wanna FUCK Hidari's Sothis!
>>739663701I don't want Kozaki back, but to be fair, the toilet armor was Kusakihara. Who is the one who did the art in-game for Three Houses.
Just bring back the GBA/Tellius artists holy shit. Back when this series still had some dignity
>>739663834uhh where are byleths massive tits
For me, it's Cuboon.
>>739664004have to bring in cuboon for that
>>739663997
>>739664074yea i know
>>739663997Wada still does amazing work, I would love to have her back.
>>739664004FEH has a grudge against Femleth's tits. The only one that's on model is Summer Byleth, and even that made Rhea bigger.
>>739664197>she's still killing it, 30 years laterThey need to make an FE8 remake before she dies, hurry up.
>>739663997Both of them still regularly draw for FEH. They just don't get the mainline lead artist roles.God, imagine if Wada was the secondary artist on 3H instead of Kusakihara. Wada-drawn portraits and S-support screens.
>>739657956Claude's caught up in his own little storyline with being an Almyrran mutt and trying to earn his place as the de facto leicester leader, that has nothing to do with the main plot.If Byleth didn't exist Dimitri would clearly be the MC.But if the game was forced to have only one route it would obviously be the church route.
>>739657661the yellow niggers, feels good to be an outsider seeing shit go down
Sadrika
>Marisa narrowly survives waves of enemies and two siege tomes with 2 hpAwesome.>Lute gets crit by the mage above the treasure in Chapter 16Veto.
>>739664691Claude's route ties into the overall history of Fodlan, culminating in attacking Shambhala, learning the remaining secret history of the world from Rhea, then defeating zombie Nemesis to fully usher in a new era without the baggage of the past. No Adrestia (founded by Wilhelm AKA evil Marth), no Faerghus (founded by the kids of the Ten Elites and on a short leash), the church acknowledges a need to change, and Leicester rises above its squabbles.
>>739665034>Lute gets crit by the mage above the treasure in Chapter 16
>>739657661Claude is the correct choice. He's the best lord, he's got the best squad, and he has the best final chapter.
>>739665102Yes, it's the infodump route because they didn't know what to do with him. Agreed.
>>739658270As much as you have problems with it, it's better than most of the FE games that came before it. Arguably the best even.Even if it's a low bar, that says volumes on the quality of the story.
I want my Dimi to abuse my insides. That is all.
>>739657661As someone who never made it past the timeskip in 3H, and chose Golden Deer explain to me why it has been 7 years of Edelgard vs Dimitri discourse and nobody seems to care about Claude?
I've always meant to ask, but never really remembered.How exactly ARE you meant to deal with siege tomes?Just park a Spd+Res stacked character in range for five turns?
>>739664084Which FE would Josuke like the best? I bet Awakening for the power of love/friendship trope
>>739665162Claude's route is about trying to find out what his mother's home nation/continent is like. Everything up to and beyond Shambhala is part of that, as is learning about the people. He's outside of Fodlan's traps and sunk-cost fallacies, sees the bigger picture, and has the mentality to thoroughly change things for the better. The more conventional Fire Emblem house leaders don't have that combination of factors.
>>739665287PegasiWarpSilenceCounterattack (3H only)
>>739665237Claude isn't emotionally unhinged and thus a simp magnet
>>739665237>why it has been 7 years of Edelgard vs Dimitri discourse and nobody seems to care about Claude?The moral conundrums of Claude's story (do am racism bad??) aren't nearly as complex or morally grey as Edelgard's "Should be rip the bandage off of society" vs Dimitri's "slowly changing the status quo will cause less conflict."
>>739665237Edelgard and Dimitri are far more steeped in Fodlan's woes and ideologies than Claude. Edelgard is also allied with the Agarthans in part from duress and convenience, and Dimitri has his own personal trauma and a route that explores his mental state more than the other house leaders' are. There's also the matter of Claude's route potentially having the closest thing to a "golden route" for Three Houses.
>>739665287Bait them out of position with a low RES unit and then kill them the next turn
>>739665521Me on the right
>>739665626Post your butthole
>Colm promoted to Rogue can't stealWell there goes the Knight Crest needed for Amelia.
This could be us fr
Like they give a shit
>>739666456??? Yes he can. Did you mean promoted to Assassin?
>>739666539This level was ruined for me once I realized you can Rescue the green units and just walk into a funnel.
>>739666456???rouge can still steal.it's assassin that cannot steal
>>739666565Nope. He's a rogue. He has Pick as an ability.His inventory wasn't full, and he was next to both thieves, and he couldn't steal from theme. The options were Attack, Item, and Wait.
>>739666604Oh, he's too slow then. He needs to be faster than the enemy to steal. Although I find that kinda suspect too.
>>739666684There were two, though the wiki only lists one, with a range of 15-18 spd.My Colm has 16 speed, so there's a 50% chance each of the two thieves were faster.
FE should have a hero self-doubt section during the final boss followed by all the memories made along the journey which steels their resolve and makes them fight even harder
>>739657661At least as bad as Reddit would have you belive, even though I dont know what they say.Having to anchor yourself to the monastery in part 2 really kills any sense of progression in the story. Doesn't feel like a campaign at all.
>>739666823fates does this kinda
>>739666823Engage literally does this when the Emblems get severed.
>>739666887>>739666895I meant like literal flashback to "you're a good guy MC, don't forget that" and stuff like that and then they get like +2 to all stats as they give their speech about the power of friendship. You're both kinda right though
>>739666823I rather we get an ass slap mini game
>>739667003Emblems give passive stats, and Alear gives the speech about the power of bonds.I know you're asking for a flashback to Naruto's swingset, but IS doesn't have the balls to do flashbacks to random support conversation screenshots.
Would an FE game with an SP bar for characters work? Magic and combat arts could take SP for use, and like the Engage bar it could be refilled from defeating enemies. Could also have every character have SP growths or stuff like that.
>>739667003Alear's thick thighs
>>739657661I only ever did Claude and Edelgard because this game takes fucking forever to play and I got burned out by the time I was trying to do Dimitri's route.
>>739667003What's Ridley doing there?
>>739665237Dimitri and Edel just have more going on character wise + more conflict and emotional stakes within the lore of the setting. Claude is an outsider with no real tethers to Fodlan and is undoubtedly the most 'normal guy' of the leaders, which makes him kind of boring. Doesn't help that so many of the golden deer house guys don't have that much going on with each other either.
>>739667213Just chilling with his dragon friend
Facefucking Alear
Matingpressing Alear
>>739666779>the wiki only lists oneYeah, it only lists one of each enemy type, no duplicates. It would put a second thief if it had a different starting inventory. Do you happen to have a speedwing to waste? Haha, I always chide the relayers for failing to steal the lockpick in chapter 8 because they don't train Colm early, so he's never fast enough to do it.
>>739667472He stole that earlier pick, but not the ones that mattered at the end.Is that the last use for a thief? I don't remember much after this in terms of needing to steal or pick. Cause if so, I wanna bench this fucker.
>>739667538There are things to steal in chapters 17 and 19, and there are chests on opposite sides of the maps (plus doors) in chapter 19 and the first part of final.
>>739667301>>739667461
>>739667683Fuck.
>>739667683>>739667735>it's just a dragonshield and an elixirTo the bench he goes!
>>739667735I just checked, 16 is the highest speed the target can get in chapter 17, and you're fast enough to steal the chapter 19 item (plus it's a goddess icon if you just don't care).
every time i play a fire emblem game, i just go for max crits and finish the game on casual/normal. im really only here for the supports.
>>739667856There's not really much middle ground between playing for story and playing for combat in the later games anyway. May as well save your time if you don't care about difficulty.
>>739657661The boar.
>>739658832I do right naturally without thinking. It only makes sense
>>739658221Why the fuck would you ever want to see Shez again?
>>739663615>art for FW is basically the 3H artist using the eyes of the Engage artist>looks much nicerWas it really just a change in the eyes that was needed?
>>739668139>play as Manleth>romance FShez>have an actual ending slide this time
colm and renac aren't even worth deploying after chapter 9
>>739658903I stopped playing without finishing all routes because of this boring retard.
15 IQ on this guy
>>739660981There goes any chance of the game being good. We're getting TH ganeplay with Engage's story.
>>739668307Shez is simply too stupid to die.
>>739668383Nat 20 luckNat 20 charismaNat 1 intelligence
>>739660074>If they had just left it as 3 kingdoms turning from allies to warring against each other with a sprinkle of dragon bullshitI think that might have been KT's idea, since they usually do historical games, but Isis or maybe Nintendo forced them to make a saturday cartoon villain. It's fucking FFT all over again.
Take a load off Guy, relax!
>>739668437Hello, me.
>>739658373>black dude???
>>739668275If this game had a ranking system, you would probably get an E in funds.
this is better than sex
>>739668553Unless the sex is with a crazy femanon. ESPECIALLY if she got them grippy toe socks.
>>739668290>can recruit Shez as a student early on>lose them when they get possessed by Arval and attack Jeralt>they appear again post-timeskip, wearing their orange scarf thing as a mask like GBA thieves>reappears like death knight, but actually a threat>a paralogue lets you re-recruit them and stop them from appearing as an enemy>has paired endingsWould buy.
>>739668553I've 100% Hopes twice. It's just that good of a musou. My personal favorite is playing as Jeritza or Sylvain because their reaches and damage potentials are absurd.
>>739668143It only works on Leda so far. We need to see the rest of the 20 in the hood units to give better judgement
>playing with Edelgard>suddenly something something>playing rest of the game with Setes, Manuela and Hanneman>everything is boringi dunno mates, this game was not very interesting, maps are the same and very bad, story was boring, characters not interesting, classes are not interesting too. whole daily gameplay with all those "give food to characters" was pretty bad tooengage is kinda better, maps are better, battles are harder, no church daily routine
Which house would she be in?
>>739668639>It only works on Leda so far.The only one that looks iffy to me so far is Cai, but he's just a strange design as a whole. Alucard looks neat and smelly fujo looks cute.
>>739668729breeding house
>>739668143Also the lighting. OG Houses looks awful, even Hopes is a drastic improvement. If this is IS making it, it'll probably be Engage's lighting engine.
>>739668607I was envisioning Byleth's paralogue isn't Memories of Red Canyon, but instead Byleth soloing Berling's Mercenaries, which ends with cornering Shez and watching them Awaken and then lose it just before Jeralt calls for departure. Byleth's paralogue comes after Shez attacks Jeralt on the school grounds. The player doesn't know Shez is in the game until that point. There's multiple other important details involved in the game, such as a truncated White Clouds that's only about 6 chapters long (which means rescuing Jeralt requires burning all your free time and resources during a new game, or only saving him in NG+), and two separate time skips (3 years after the end of White Clouds, 2 more years after another 6 chapters setting up your lord's objectives and goals). The end of the first time skip is when Shez reappears in their Awakened state, pushes Byleth to the edge, and forces Byleth to become Enlightened, which is what causes them to sleep for 2 years (though they're thought to be dead because the fight with Awakened Shez is so spectacular it causes locations like Arianrhod to be destroyed and collapse on Byleth, while Shez is abducted to safety by the Slithers). Shez doesn't appear again until another 6 chapters later when Arval ASSUMES DIRECT CONTROL to kill Byleth, sacrifices Solon to open Zaharas, and Byleth, Shez, and the route's lord are pulled in and need to kill Epimenides. If Jeralt is alive, then Byleth has the motivation to pull Shez out of Zaharas when they try to stay behind with Epimenides' corpse. If Jeralt's dead, then Byleth leaves Shez behind. The player gets Shez for the last quarter of the game if they're recruited. Also, in case it wasn't obvious, Jeralt can be recruited. He joins at the start of the second time skip, about halfway through the game, if he's alive.tl;dr please be patient i have autism
>>739668290>>739668272Sorry, I'm not porn brained, so these scenarios are as uninteresting as the fanfic character that is Shez. Hell, it's almost as offensive as Shez' dogshit design.
>>739668729why does she have troon man face?
>>739669018I accept your apology.
>>739669018>Shez>fanfic characterShez is like the only flawed avatar, and it actually affects their relationships and levels of trust with other characters.
>>739668139Shez has an actual personality, knows about the world, and people don't orbit him/her like a cult. Shez outdoes Byleth as a character.
>>739668553I can't believe I used to play this genre.
>>739669293>>739669234I'm not saying Blyat is a good character, I'm saying that Shez is dogshit.
>>739657661i helped bro kill the bitch
>>739660754the amount of walking on eggshells they have to do so people don't go "ERMMMM SEE THE ETYMOLOGY OF THIS GUY'S NAME IS THE SAME AS ONE OF THE EAGLES, SO BE IS CANON!!!!" is going to be what holds this game back even though I'm still convinced this is a prequel
>>739660274EdelgardDidNothingWrong
>>739657661The one with the hot girls in it No regretsCan I have this but it's just one big story with a mole people DLC thanks
>>739663305>most of the crest based discrimination and horrible experimentation happens in the empire>a place where Rhea and the central church hasn't had any real influence in 100 yearsSounds to me like the empire nobles are just shitty people.
>Play SoV>Celica doesn't cheat on Alm, suck Saber's dick or fucks Atlas once.I was lied to.Palla is still hot though.
>>739672305>he didn't unlock the NTR scenesfake fan
>>739672394Man In a SoV NTR game I would choose the route where Celica cheats on Alm, gets caught early and Alm dumps her for Claire.
>>739672532YJK
>>739672532Me on the left
>>739663505>SrengA series of "invasions" in order to reclaim arable land that the Kingdom stole from them during their formative years thanks to the Lance of Ruin and Macuil making part of their country impossible to settle.>AlmyraDespite having a king, it does not seem to be that far removed from places like Lycia and Leicester in structure according to Hopes. Which is to say, a lot of people tend go off and do their own thing despite no formal orders from central command. So its less an almyran invasion in a formal sense and more a gaggle of bandits or the random power hungry noble trying to invade and get his ass kicked. As shown with Shahid where its obvious that Nader wasnt actually trying to strategize and let him flounder.
>>739672305>suck Saber's dickThat's Genny's wheelhouse anon.
>>739674194>this blatant headcanonCyril confirms the Almyrans go fight for fun and then laugh it off whrn everyone except 3 guys die. Thry're full on savages.
>>739671176>100 yearsThe church wasnt officially expelled until relatively recently due to a series of disputes over the next leader of the southern church, so when the king just said fuck it and picked one, that led to all sort of shit that ultimately resorted in the church leaving and the insurrection of the 7.
>>739674292Please play Hopes when they actually go more into the structure of Almyran politics and its revealed that Claude's father never officially sanctioned Shahid's invasion, the retard did it entirely by himself because no one respected him back home and he wanted to come back with a win and got whooped.This does not contradict anything that Cyril says with a lot of Almyrans being fight sexuals who do it for fun.
Okay, honestly, I was really nervous someone was going to die on this enemy phase both from the sheer volume of enemies and also targets for them to pick from, but I was not expecting Echidna to take the most heat. I'm really surprised the troopers didn't pick targets they could double, or someone more fragile, like Clarine.
>>739674424>play a warriors gameI would rather you had told me to kill myself.
>>739674424>Please play Hopes when they actually go more into the structure of Almyran politicsliterally all of hopes is AU fanfiction, though
The only canon Warriors game is the one where xander destroys Celica about how a leader should act and the cut conversation focused on Camilla and Cordelia's breasts.
>Edelgard begs for church help in Three hopes>Gets it>Still attacks church>Rhea literally sacrifices herself to kill Thales and save Edelgard again>Still church is evilIt's a good thing she gets mind raped in the only canon Three hopes story.
>>739674340ASS
>>739675332Edelgard going babymode and getting passed around as a fuck doll by the remaining Adrestian lords while Thales has Hubert and Ferdinand assassinated will never NOT be funny to me.
>>739675332>Rhea does it to save EdelgardLmao, you cant be serious or you have no reading comprehension. She was pissed, tried to get a salty runback and blew herself up in the process while fighting Thales.
Edelgard literally is proof that women will side with their rapist and pure childhood friend love is fake...
>>739675707Edelgard is a fictional character, anon. Calm down.
>>739675780people apply real world logic to the rest of the worldbuilding and characters and stories to make baseless claims, why can't I do the same with Edelgard...
>>739675860I mean, you can.
Edelgard seems to get angry and commit an atrocity once per month at roughly the same time of the month.Maybe her special lady bleeding time is causing her to do these things?
>>739674860>>739674748Almyra in 3H proper are not trying to do a serious invasion. They had ample opportunity to fuck up the alliance during the war since they were weakened but did not do anything of consequence. Instead, they only sent Nader and a small fleet (who people hype up as pretty strong in terms of tech) when Claude requested the assistance and promptly leave if Claude loses.In the first place, if you look at the geography, its laughable to think that a single land route could completely cockblock Almyra from invading when they have wyverns/ships out the ass and Leicester's capital is a port.
>>739675960her crests are to blame. fictional women don't do that
>>739676116I think Edelgard has a very heavy flow and the cramps from her uterus collapsing killing another chance of her conceiving a child causes her to attack the creator.
>play 3h>see that schizo freak with ai slop pics>be told by anons that pic related is ultimate carpenter muncher>okay.jpg>do a run later where I employ and romance her to s rank, out of curiosity>she only has s support with a manleth>isn't eccentric quirky chungus>actually gets a nice ending where it's confirmed that you both start a family together>one of few characters who got decently made a/s rank cg artwork, tooI feel like I was bamboozled. You guys fucking lied to me.
>>739676601Nah, you're just a retard. Nintendo would never insert a canon lesbian into their gane.
>3H thread>people actually talking abouut 3HGod damn it
>>739676601Shamir gets that label because the character she's most associated with is Catherine, and she's got a gay ending with her.There's a couple of characters in 3H you can make the big gay if you want to.
>>739657661the church and having two kids with lysithea, if im permitted a second wife id like marianne
>>739677307QuickStart another GBA relay
>>739677550>There's a couple of characters in 3H you can make the big gay if you want to.No need. I prefer them straight.
>>739676996Why does she cheat?Is it the thrill or just her nature?
>>7396607543H did not have a good story contrary to reddit opinion. It had a fuckton of LORE, but the writing was a substandard mess by series standards. I guess this game could be as bad as Engage, though.
>>739679105it also had a cast full of quirk chungus characters and normies conflate "i like it" with "it's objectively good" too much so a dumb depressed bitch suddenly is good writing because it reminds them of their highschool gf or something.
>>739680818Why is she even depressed? I didn't recruit her and never could stomach a replay.
>Still crying over 3H
>>739674324The southern church was dissolved roughly 120 years before the start of the game Edelgard is stated to be the first member of House Hresvelg to enroll in the officers academy in "generations"
>>739680946Only crest-bearing of Count Varley who is the most disliked man in the Empire. Basically just used her like a tool and turned Bernie's childhood into one big trauma session since he was constantly doing shit like putting her through bride training, which iirc was something like tying her to a chair and leaving her there for days until she became more subservient. And also there was that time he found out that Bernie had made friends with a filthy commoner and nearly beat the kid (who was Yuri) to death while she watched and then her dad told her that she was responsible for the kid "dying".
>>739682109I thought the blue bitch was the depressed one who kills herself or something.
>>739682183Bernie is depressed because of abuse. Marianne is depressed because she has the Crest of the Beast, which means she believes that she brings misfortune to others and one day her Crest will activate just as her ancestor Maurice's did, forcing her to transform into a monster and she'll kill everyone she loves. Maurice was stricken from Church record because he was a murder-rapist, so Marianne feels compelled to keep her Crest a secret.
>>739682183Marianne is the one with depression (family curse stuff, and she does kill herself if you don't recruit her).Bernadetta has severe social anxiety and a fear of pretty much everything.
>>739679105I unironically believe 3H has a worse story than Engage. Engage's bland story and cringe moments felt almost Shakespearean when compared to the amount of dumbfuck shit driving the plot in 3H.Seeing people cope about Byleth not trying to prevent Rodrigue's by saying he was playing 4D chess to fix Dimitri was the funniest shit.
>>739682723Wow, a once in a generation retard.
>>739682421All it does is raise her MT by 5 sometimes. Is she stupid?
engaygie ragie!
>>739682723Wow, a once in a generation genius.
>>739682723Engage is bad and tryhard in an unfunny way. It's just Awakening 3: switch hair color edition.
>>739682979Dimitri's minor Crest makes him see ghosts and also commit atrocities on women's pussies when he crits in bed.
>>739682723It's not worse than engage. Bad? Yes. Outrageously overrated? Yes. Worse than engage? No.The thing is pretty much everyone acknowledges engage's story is shit, while at the same time holds 3H's story on a pedestal like it's the best thing since sliced bread. There's exactly one route that has a decent story and that's because the blue lions actually have a coherent character driven arc, and even then there's glaring flaws and contrivances like Rodrigue's death and Dimitri seemingly going from edgy angst filled death machine to remorseful ruler overnight. The more you looking into edelgard's route and her character as a whole the more you realize how absolutely retarded she is, and how much she ruins the theme of 3H because of how many concessions the game gives her to try to force the narrative that there is no true good side in this conflict (there is). And then byleth as a blank slate completely falls flat, the bitch has no voicelines, no agency, no emotion, etc., and we're supposed to believe that she's this life changing mentor to whichever class we picked and an excellent commander/professor. Ludonarrative dissonance is a reddit term but holy shit is it true for Byleth.
>>739684570hopes redeemed byleth fortunately
>>739684570I mean she does teach them which raises their proficiencies have you tried playing the game?
>>739657661I picked Black Eagles because the characters looked the most appealing out of the bunch. I thought the story was just fine, it copies a lot from Genealogy which I'm a fan of, but I think it's less interesting than it. The characters are likable though.
>>739682723Having a time rewinding power in canon means bad things just should not happen to you by default
>>739685692Edelgard not having Divine Pulse does unbelievable amounts of damage to 3H's story.
>>739685209>press a couple of buttons every few weeks>this explains how she's such an excellent teacher despite having zero experience and zero social skills
>10/10 design but character is dumbNot everything can be perfect
>>739676601I want her to empty her pussy by losing control during mating sessions
>>739658421>black dudeLiterally where?
>>739686289She's a dumb bitch. But cute.>Yes let me trust the purple skin bad guy
>>739684570I don't even know why Byleth is taken remotely seriously as a character at all, when she's written like a Sue straight out of self-aggrandizing fanfic. Nothing about her makes sense from the first moment. Why is this young turd already such a consummate pro? The real answer is obvious - Byleth, as the designated self-insert avatar, MUST be hot and cool and desirable, and also better than everyone else at everything. But why is this fucking trash taken seriously as writing? Why do people swear up and down that this is breaking NEW GROUNDS for Fire Emblem? Like everything else before it was juvenile kiddie shit? My, IS just had know idea what they were doing until they landed on a player power fantasy upon as big and ridiculous as Byleth.Even Fates, bad as it is, had the sensibility to make Corrin a young fool. She was still wanked by everyone, sure, but they at least the writers weren't trying to convince you of her peerless ability. That was the exclusive domain of Ryoma and Xander. Corrin is just some fucking dweeb of dubious parentage that everyone thirsts for.Byleth is Player as God, and all the consequent implications of that. The level of wank reminds me of the movie Pootie-Tang, where at one point titular protagonist and supreme lady's man Pootie offers a dog-bowl of milk to one of his admirers, and the joke is that she actually gets down on her knees and laps it up like a dog at his feet, so mighty and compelling is his cock.But Pootie-Tang was a comedy, not a war story.
>>739686551In her defense, Jedah was threatening to wear Alm down little by little until he died by the undead dragons. It was a rock and a hard place
>>739668729Definitely lions, all of the nohr royals except maybe elise
Child
When 3H has bad writing moments, I will do everything in my power to justify them or excuse it because I’m too biased towards the game to say anything negative about it
>>739686916(ped)ophelia
>>739686657>>739684570Loving this new nonsense where retards pretend people like 3H because of Blyat's character.
>>739687120The funniest part is they're doing it to indirectly run cover for Engage, who has an infinitely worse player character.
>>739687120>>739687180yeah keep deflecting retard
>>739687120Well, after all, the punchline to every 3H glaze-fest is that you have to ignore more things than you pay attention to for its story to work better than an NES game. It's a game that Invented Writing for the Fire Emblem series, because it gave Fire Emblem characters last names for the first time.
>>739679105>series standardsdoes the series even have standards in the 1st place?Only the tellius games does
FEsissies… we got btfo by tactics chads in the genre thread…
>>739687319>Tellius>Standards
>>739684570>>739687272Nobody glazes it as much as you think.It's just people who overthinks that FE has such standards of a story to begin with to just say "3H story is bad"It has more things to think about compared to other FEs as well.
>>739687319>tellius>standards
>>739687319Most games tell a coherent plot with appropriate build and emotional payoffs. Coherency has been a challenge in the past decade+, but even Fates managed to build up Garon as a villain, before turning him into a goo monster. Shit just happens suddenly in 3H. You're at Garreg Mach, then the next you're marching on the imperial capital before lopping Edeltard's head off.No other game has this pants-on-head retarded, rushed story structure.
>>739682109Count Varley did nothing wrong, considering that his retard daughter befriended an asssassin who was trying to kill her.
>>739687507>No other game has this pants-on-head retarded, rushed story structure.Now this is cope
>>739687272>gave Fire Emblem characters last names for the first timeKAGA DID IT FIRST
>>739686916>>739687084They need to have lesbian sex on my dick ngl
>>739686718That's only one of the times she decides to just trust the purple skin bad guy that tried to kill her.Don't forget the time she randomly goes "okay yeah we beat you and you tried to kill me, but I'll go with you" and Conrad has to show up to tell her to stop, since she wasn't listening to Mae or Boey.
>>739687507Nothing about Fates have merit in terms of story or writing quality, sorryIf you use Fates as a comparison I'm not going to take you seriously.>You're at Garreg Mach, then the next you're marching on the imperial capital before lopping Edeltard's head off.You don't have an imagination. You can hate on the monastery mechanic but using that as your point to prove it is bad is so dishonest.
>>739687585I'm serious. 3H felt like a ruined orgasm of writing to me. Edelfat has her chimpout, there's a timeskip, you see nothing of her until the final 30 minutes of the game, then she turns into a tree demon and dies. That's the story. Far from being better than anything before it, it felt worse in unique ways.
>>739687491It really doesn't. All it does is hide everything under a veneer of good presentation.SoV has a better story than 3H. The only reason why 3H is touted as the story game is because it was on switch and sold like hotcakes so it was babby's first fire emblem.
>>739682723>I unironically believe 3H has a worse story than EngageThis is your brain overdosing on irony and contrarianism
>>739687652Who is talking about merits here? Read carefully. I'm saying that 3H manages to be more inept at building up a villain than does Fates, which is also not good. Its writing is bad, not good. It's not even a little bit good.
>>739687507>even Fates managed to build up Garon as a villain, before turning him into a goo monsterThe funny thing about the goo monster bit is that it's extremely coherent in how it was done. The game tells you over and over that Garon long stopped being Garon, and his monstruous nature isn't kept as a secret at all in CQ.
I want to cum on Marianne's fresh self harm scratches
>>739687737Well using Fates as a comparison is not helping your case here.
>>739687507>Shit just happens suddenly in 3H.Like the only good thing about 3H is its setting and characters. That shit was all foreshadowed.If you think Fates built up Garon being made of goo, how the fuck did you not see "this war has been going for five years, so we need to spend several months working towards Enbarr to kill Edelgard" coming? Where the fuck did they foreshadow that Garon was made of goo?
>>739687507How fucking intense is your ADHD that the logical progression of events in 3H eludes you?
>>739687817If I can show that 3H has more rushed writing than Fates - a game universally panned for its writing - then I think that helps my comparison, anon...
>>739687737>I'm saying that 3H manages to be more inept at building up a villain than does FatesWhich is objectively wrong.
I liked all the routes, Claude was clearly the most stable though. Rhea's was underbaked.
I think Engage has highly overrated gameplay, but the story did hold my attention better than my 3H playthrough. After the timeskip I was in complete tune-out mode just trying to finish. The monastery being the base of operations felt so incredibly stupid and forced that I couldn't take it seriously at that point.
>>739687832>Where the fuck did they foreshadow that Garon was made of goo?During basically the entirety of Fates? It's anything but a secret that Garon was taken over by a monster.
>>739688038And that wasn't interesting at all compared to the plot twist in 3H.Garon is such a boring villain.Which is why using Fates as a comparison don't work.
>>739688160I disagree, Fates was more intresting than 3H
3H writing sucks
>>739688038>During basically the entirety of Fates?I like how you can't even name an instance that says he's a goo monster, so you just have to say "basically the entirety" of the game.Yeah, they sure talked about that during the fox genocide level, or the ice tribe level, or the staircase.Acting different? Yes. Literally being made of a pile of goo? No, it's completely out of left field. The purpose of the throne was to dispel enchantments on people, not show that they're actually a room-sized pile of goo. There's no foreshadowing to that.Especially when comparing it with "we need to go to Enbarr and kill Edelgard" which is like the whole fucking premise of half the 3H routes by the midpoint, and killing her is the end.
3H good.
doesn't your discord server have something better to do on a wednesday than this
I need to marry them
>>739688516Fates sucks and dropped the ball, despite being a hit when announced
>>739688631Yes
>>739688552>Literally being made of a pile of goo? No, it's completely out of left fieldDon't Azura show Corrin his true form after ch 15? And the opera house shit is right before that which does the same thing?
>>739688552It would be a wall of text to mention them all, if anything. Hell, you can literally tell from the prologue that Garon isn't a normal human, as he has connections to the invisible water people that no one knows about. Of course, you wouldn't know that, because all you know of Fates' story is hearsay and you didn't pay attention to a single thing it set up.
>>739687491>It has more things to think about compared to other FEs as well.More bad things, sure. Making 4 separate routes that each have to cover separate themes and concepts, sometimes contradicting each other by making characters act wildly out of character to justify the plot, certainly is a way to give more to talk about.
>make claim that Fates built up Garon as a villain, BEFORE turning him into a goo monster out of left field>discussion focuses on the goo monster bit anywayle facepalm
>>739688782>ooh this evil villain is actually not a human! it's a goo monster!That's it? Is that it?
Gayron turn to goo is as bad as Edelshit turn to tree
Someone slop Camilla getting coated in Garon's goo
>>739688782that happens in chapter 5 not the prologue retard.
>>739688931There's also all the writing explaining how he completely and utterly changed as a person beyond all reason rom supports to the main game's story to the lore, alongside the hints of an evil dragon corrupting people from within to turn them into undead monsters.
>>739688906Being fair "build up" is very generous, considering he just acted like an asshole the entire time while Corrin keeps following his orders, then you kill him before Takumi shows up to be the final boss for no real reason.
>>739688552Didnt Azura try to expose him in Ch14 and failed which led to all of the dancers getting murdered?
>>739687942SS was the first oneCF and AM were made afterVW was added last internally.
>>739689296>Takumi shows up to be the final boss for no real reasonExcept the whole setup that he was going through the exact same corruption as Garon suffered. It's not exactly subtle, you know.
>>739689278But that's uninteresting to me.I guess you are being autistic about it, but I don't see it as anything interesting. Just the typical mind controlled villain.We already had Hardin in the past with a similar motive to that.
Can we all agree that Awakening was kind of ass?>mid story carried by vibes>unbalanced gameplay>nostalgiawanking out the wazoo
>We're reach contrarian levels so high that we're now defending goo monster Garon was actually foreshadowedWew
>>739689453No but I want to make Maribelle peak from her ass
>>739687651Conrad's entire existence makes Celica's story worse. The whole idea is that Celica does not want Alm to get hurt and does not think that humanity can survive without Mila, so she willingly sacrifices herself to save Alm from the dracozombie trap (that Echoes does not force you to play) and then hopes that she can use herself to save Mila.
>>739689474no that's just how dogshit the story of engage was.
>>739688732>Don't Azura show Corrin his true form after ch 15?This is the only instance, and it's a small unexplained png.>And the opera house shit is right before that which does the same thing?No, that's just him getting disgruntled, and it happens before the crystal. If anything, it makes more sense that he's just brainwashed or something.
>>739689453>do the big scheme to not get Robin possessed by Grima and revive him to destroy the world>sike, Grima just turns giant dragon anyways so you can get the last fee mediocre chapters
>>739689474I mean if we're being objective it was. Whether it was good writing is a different question.
>>739689474>We need to sit Garon on the throne so we can expose him, so that's why we're going to help him fuck Hoshido's shit up
>>739689474Whether you like it or not, it was objectively, explictly foreshadowed.
Blonde girls are for blonde girls and being genetic dead ends for their bloodlines
>>739689594It's okay, Corrin hit them with the blunt side of his sword so they all lived.
>>739688782>king in an fe game is evil>therefore, he's a goo monsterBy this logic, why wasn't Hardin a goo monster? Or Rudolph? Or Arvis and Julius? Or Zephiel?Hell, Vigarde was literally undead, and he was just a disheveled corpse. Not a goo monster.
>>739689278Hardin got the dark stone and completely inverted as a person, but he didn't randomly become a goo monster.There's zero logical reason to assume he's a fucking goo monster.And him being used as a goo monster was being used as a BETTER plotpoint with stronger foreshadowing than needing to kill Edelgard in 3H.
>>739689594Considering that Corrin's siblings were still too stockholm'd by Garon even after that, he was completely justified. The only one who stepped up to defend him was Xander, and he absolutely needed that to be convinced as proven by the other routes.
Honestly there are way worse examples of Fates writing and this goo monster shit just seems like an inconsequential petty hangup.
>>739689827>an inconsequential petty hangup.This retard >>739687507 used it as an example of Fates being better than 3H. So we have to hose him for his absolute retardation.Apparently needing to kill Edelgard after she ran a pointless war for five years isn't enough foreshadowing, but a png in one cutscene of an entire level that is unexplained and makes no sense is somehow good writing.
>>739689827It's a dumb point from the getgo. Who gives a shit if he's goo or not? He becomes a dragon in BR. The real issue is he's cartoonishly evil, employing cartoonishly evil henchmen, and literally nobody but Corrin and Azura give a fuck.
>>739689648>>739689740Funny that you bring up Hardin, because it's literally the same shit where magic is the source of the corruption. Also, to be more exact, Garon is a dragon as proven by BR, but sitting on the Hoshidian throne breaks the deception of his human form.
>>739690142>Funny that you bring up Hardin, because it's literally the same shit where magic is the source of the corruption.Except the point is that he doesn't randomly turn into a goo monster, you retard.What, you thought you had some "gotcha" with me bringing Hardin up, when that was WHY I brought Hardin up?Once more: why wasn't Hardin a goo monster? Apparently that'd be better writing.
>>739690142Yeah bro now tell me why this is so interesting to begin with that you need to hype him up so much.The lack of stakes and world-interaction in Fates story makes all this for nothing.Never did I think Hardin was that cool of a villain in the first place that's why I think you hyping up Garon as a villain is even more baffling.
>>739690256>Durr Garon being possessed is bad!Why? Again, the game foreshadows it and it makes sense in the context of Fates. What's the real difference between "He stopped being himself because he was corrupted by an evil monster" and "He stopped being himself because he was corrupted by an evil stone"?>why wasn't Hardin a goo monster? Because the story is different, you double retard
>>739690457>switching goalposts from "he's literally a goo monster" to "possessed"I already brought up Hardin, Julius, and Vigarde, and I can bring up Lyon too.Why were they not goo monsters?>Because the story is different, you double retardYeah, that's the issue. Fates's story was retarded and nonsensical. Even in the one piece of foreshadowing that Garon was a goo monster (which is so out of left field, that the "foreshadowing" is them literally showing you that he's a goo monster, because there's no fucking way to actually justify something that outlandish), the scene itself uses a one-use magical unexplained crystal ball that can just see anything.It's retarded.
Most retarded argument I've seen here in months
>>739690581>WAAAH IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF CORRUPTION SO IT'S LE BAD!Yeah, let's bring up Lyon. He gets corrupted and turned into an evil demon just like how Garon gets corrupted and turned into an evil dragon. Is Lyon now a bad villain too?>B-but Lyon was foreshadowedSo was Garon
Did you know Gilliam won?
>>739690581Don't forget the ball magically shatters afterwards, guaranteeing you can't convince the siblings to stop being retarded.
>>739689994But I explicitly said Fates built up Garon better than Edelgard before the goo-ening. The point being we saw more of Garon as villain than we saw of Edelgard as villain. You're the one who laser focused on the goo, when the thrust of the argument was about how much we see of these two characters as villainous agents. There's barely any Edelgard after the timeskip in AM. The game leaves much about her and her motives mysterious and unanswered, in service of its retarded, forced route-based plot structure. Fates is kinda similar, but not as extreme.The overarching point being that 30 year old games managed to do what 3H (and Fates) couldn't - come up with a coherent villain in a self-contained narrative that shows the villain doing things and explains his motives by the end.To even come close to getting an equivalent experience in 3H's bloated mess of a story, you have to play through the game 4 times.
>Garon: i ShOuLd hAvE KiLlEd YoU... EvEn If iT mEaNt...DisObEyInG tHe GrEaT AnAnKoS...>Corrin: Anankos? What are you talking about?! Your god has nothing to do with this! We all make our own decisions. You are all responsible for all of this, monster! You destroyed the heart of a good man for your own selfish gain. But even you could have chosen a different path. No matter the circumstances we are born into, or the blood in our veins...We are all the masters of our own fate! That is why I am not like you, nor could I ever be. I chose the path I believe in, the path of peace. And that conviction, that strength...I will use it to defeat you! KINO
>>739690807Coherent =/= interesting. You want the same shonenshit over and over again with nothing worth discussing, go play Dragon Quest.
I'm thinking that FatesChads won
>>739687737He's not really well built as a villain because no matter how good in the past he was, every good Nohrian treats what he's doing as suspicious and something to worry over, but the guy is at the same time maniacally talking to himself and murdering everyone who even asks him questions like a complete lunatic. He long passes the point of worrying over him. The fact that his children have such a hard time believing that he was replaced by a goo monster is dumb. Not to mention that the supposedly good Garon was over 15 years ago, so Elise and Leo would hardly even remember it.Had he been even slightly normal, at least at first, it would be understandable but how it is makes every Nohrian almost as evil, or just blind retards.
someone post the one about garon being a dick slinging heart breaker and women would kill eachother for a ride
>>739691049One Elise/Leo B support coming up>Elise: Wow, really? I wanna meet back-then-Father! He sounds amazing!>Leo: He was. To tell you the truth, I wish I could see him again as well. Let's see... What else did they say about him? Ah, yes. When he was young, they say he never ran out of love stories to tell. Ah, yes. All the girls in the kingdom wanted to be at his side. And they weren't just interested in the throne, either. He was quite the charmer.>Elise: Heehee! OUR Father? A ladies' man?! It's not possible!>Leo: I know it's hard to believe now, but he was known as an extremely charismatic leader. Unfortunately, this charisma inspired much chaos among his suitors. There were so many vying for his favor that they frequently turned to violence. Some even turned on members of their own family.
>>739690935Ok but 3H isn't interesting either. Things just seem to happen for no apparent reason so it's no wonder why players don't feel compelled to play an 80 hour game 3 more times to find out why.
>>739690807You do know there's more to building up villains than jusst "showing up and doing stuff", right? TH had Dimitri going full schizo to kill Edelgard, straight up talking nonstop about crushing her skull and fucking her eye socket and you don't count that as build up? Or the moles and her generals being a presence?
>>739689647It was a non-fatal lethality proc actually
>>739690731>He gets corrupted and turned into an evil demonHe literally doesn't. Fomortiis jumps from the stone to him, uses him as a vessel, consumes his soul as fuel, and then Fomortiis jumps back to his original body. He never "turned into a demon" you lying retard.>>739690807Your complaint was that "shit just suddenly happens in 3H" when you're defending the game with>a nuke sword>a hyper-specific bridge being over a portal to another realm>that realm not being explained>azura getting half a country slaughtered>the rainbow sage just killing himself>everyone shrugging as hans kills an entire village>zola overthrowing an entire country offscreen>the royals killing him for peacefully ending the war>azura getting an entire species slaughtered>lilith jumping in from offscreen and dying instantly>ryoma just killing himself>garon being a goo monster>two takumisAnd this is all just one route. Remember the time Flora set herself on fire when asked if she would help fight against the tyrannical country she was oppressed by?
>>739690807>than we saw of Edelgard as villain.What do you mean, she's pretty fucking villainous in all the routes, outside CF trying to whitewash her by making everyone else worse. She starts s conspiracy and a war from the shadows in the first part, is practically responsible for kidnappings and murders all around.The worst the story will do is say that she had her reasons, but it never claims she did nothing bad.
>>739689382>>739687942I would not be surprised if a lot of things like the lore and nemesis stuff were removed from SS and slapped into VW in order to give Claude SOMETHING unique about his route. Feels like they had nothing for him.
>dad is evil again
>>739691205I think 3H ideas are interesting.Even in terms of "one-note" characters the high schoolers in 3H are also more interesting than Fates/Awakening ones.Fateswakening characters don't care about the story, they just talk about what's their favorite food and stupid stuff.
>>739691414My pussy can fix him
>Edelgard openly spends an entire month schemeing with Monica/Kronya right before Kronya springs a trap to kill Jeralt, heavily implying that Edelgard helped her do all of that>the trap itself was about kids being turned into demonic beasts, then eating other kids that weren't demonic beasts>she is then after revealed to be the Flame Emperor, who was the antagonist behind the first half of all routes, backing rebellions, kidnappings, and whatever the fuck Remire was>this somehow is not enough foreshadowing in a single level that Edelgard needs to die, but Garon randomly being a goo monster was "well foreshadowed"
>>739691268>He never "turned into a demon"Seems like you haven't played SS either. Eirika route has Lyon turn into a evil demon in the same way as Garon got turned into an evil dragon, down to Lyon returning briefly at his death just like how Garon returnin briefly at his death in BR.
>>739690935Well the cat was let out of the bag here, huh? It's not about telling sensible stories with coherent plot structures and satisfying emotional payoff. It's about doing the opposite of that for "le discourse." You want people arguing about the basic meaning of your story twitter and reddit. Making sense is old news. Fuck the hero's journey, fuck mythbulding, fuck storytelling. It's about me being able to argue with fags on social media. This is your 3hfag.
>>7396914753H characters betray their homelands because their teacher is hot
what is the best FE to play?I only plahyed the good 3ds onetrying the game called just FE on gba now, and its garbage
>>739676825They did it with Monica
>>739689453True, the only good thing about Awakening is Maribelle and my desire to breed her.
>>739691268>overthrowing an entire countryHe kidnapped one man and disguised himself as that man
>>739657661Edelgard > Dimitri > ClaudeI didn’t bother playing church route.
>>739689382CF was last. It was the only route with one single animated cutscene (killing Rhea), while the other routes all had the reunion scene and at least one other scene (Rhea in Shambala, Claude rallying the Almyrans as allies, Dimitri's schizo freakout in the tomb) that was animated on top of their animated endings.They clearly just didn't have time for CF.
>>739691268Both 3H and Fates have bad writing. Glad we could clear this up.
>>739691536No, retard. The entire reason Fomortiis makes Lyon go to the forest is because his body is still there, so he jumps from Lyon's body to his old one.You're literally just lying now.>>739691607You're not gonna believe what happened with Garon and Nohr.
>>739691569Are you playing fe7 normal mode?
>>739691739FE7 is barely any better on hard desufam
>reading stories in fire emblemIt only brings pain and suffering. Please press [start]
>Good stories: Jugdral games>Decent stories: Tellius games>Shit stories: The rest
>>739691734Nope, he already is turned into a demon in Eirika route before he reaches the woods. The convo with Morva in Eirika route has Morva recognize the demon king immediately, while Ephraim route has Morva try to convince Lyon to fight off the demon king. Eirika route Lyon is literally the same concept as Garon no matter how hard you try to plays semantics.
Post girls other than Severa who do rough butt stuff
>>739691864>mary sue chronicles feat: blood pact>better than fates
>>739691864>Tellius games>decent storiesMaybe if you said it in singular. RD is almost Fates-levels of garbage with how contrived it all is.
>>739691990Yes, it says a lot that the game with the blood pact still manages to tell a better story than nuFE.
>>739691986>besides severauh... selena?
>>739691864>Tellius games>Decent storiesPick only one.
>>739691558So wanting a story to be interesting and not repeating the same shit over and over again is wrong, huh?I never intended to debate you about coherency in the first place nor I think coherency matters if what is coherent is just repeating previous story beats without actually doing anything new with it.>>739691563And realistically that can happen too in real life, you midtwit. Check history.
>>739691983>Morva recognizes Fomortiis's soul by its presence, which is stated earlier in the game to exude even from the sacred stone>this somehow means that Lyon "turned into a demon"Reminder he has a lying down sprite because he just drops dead, then Fomortiis warps the body to the next room so the soul can jump back into the demon king corpse, before Eirika catches the soul with a pokeball.So we're now at the point where the guy who claims Goo-Garon is better writing than 3H is now admitting he just straight up made shit up about FE8's plot.That settles it, huh?
if evil dragons are allowed to be a plot device then famine genocide pestilence blood pacts that transfer to contract breakers are allowed to be a plot device
>>739690807If anything, 3H does too much foreshadowing. I don't get where you pull this out of nowhere bullshit.
Awakening has one of the better FE stories desu.
>>739692167From his ass, the same place you can find Fates's script.
Cont. >>739692091Not even a 3Hfag. But using Fates as your ammo to one-up 3H is pathetic. Reeks of pure contrarianism.
>>739691475That's not really a comparison because the 3H cast is objectively much more developed than most of other games. It's clear that they took a lot of time in making the cast feel like characters, with things like their birthdays being a part of the calendar, their favorite foods actually making sense, their likes and dislikes actually showing up constantly, their chapter by chapter location, their affinities and others. And ignoring a few exceptions, their supports can range from a lot of stuff that isn't really tied to their main personality gimmick.They are a very good cast and they are one of the main reasons the game was so successful and why people usually ignore the holes in the paths stories.
>>739692224It's genuinely awful, I don't know how someone can hold this opinion without having rose-tinted goggles for the first FE they played.
>>739691864TRVTH SVPERNOVA
>>739691986Nina does anal
>>739691205>for no apparent reasonWHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
>>739692162Evil dragons require less plot bending to.make work than a retarded blood pact.
>>739692281>Wears a strap-on pointlessly to simulate her yaoiShe would, wouldn't she?
>>739676601Guess I have a type, too
>>739692281Ruthlessly breeding the fujo out of her!
>>739692129>Fomortiis: Mm...hah hah... A moment more, and my rebirth will be unstoppable--irreversible. None remain who can stop me now.>Morva: So, you've returned, have you?>Fomortiis: Hm?>Morva: You can clothe yourself in human flesh, but you cannot hide your foul mien. Eight hundred years wasn't long enough, Demon King.Word for word from the most knowledgeable character in the game. Any more copes about how Lyon wasn't already the Demon King in Eirika route? And before you ask, it is indeed different in Ephraim route.>Lyon: ... The time grows near.>Morva: ...Hold.>Lyon: Huh?>Morva: What are you doing here, human? You should return to your own kind. This is no place for you to tread. This is darkness's domain... This is desecrated land.Any more copes? Garon is literally Eirika route Lyon, down to having his character completely change because he got his body taken over by a monster.
>>739660274It would have been so very fitting if Mercedes had battle dialogue with Hubert and Edelgard once you unlock this scene
3H is a genuine cancer onto this series and the less IS tries to copy it the better.
>>739692091>And realistically that can happen too in real life, you midtwit. Check history.Nah abandoning your entire family, nation, and belief system for a woman who hasn't even shown real interest in you is unbelievably retarded. I'd rather characters just be agnostic to the happenings of the story if it's going to lead to absurd shit like that.
>>739692454I would say that Fomortis at least has the decency to pretend to be Lyon when it's convenient. And the proper term is possession, even if Lyon is effectively death, his body is still living normally while Ganon is just a corpse.
>>739692591too bad for you they are making a direct sequel to it.
>>739692454... anon, that's Morva saying he recognizes Fomortiis's soul. Not that Lyon somehow mutated into a demon.Morva even says, when it swaps back to Lyon, that he's a human and should leave.Jesus christ. This is the guy arguing that Fates had good writing?
>>739692691*prequel
>>739692091What did 3H ACTUALLY do new despite being incoherent?Picking a side? Fates.Church as a centralizing political force? Tellius.Gray morality? Jugdral.Fucked up genetic experiments and blood sacrifice rituals? Tellius and Jugdral.Red emperor?The game has vibes, I'll give you that. "Schizo hobo prince" is new on a vibes level. But then, "Prince who miraculously spares all his enemies" and "spiritual stands who take the shape of rings and imbue wearers with special powers" are new on a vibes level. Substantively, what did 3H do so revolutionary to justify being so damned ridiculous in its basic plot structure and storytelling?
>>739692745Based
>>739692591Copying it is literally what they're doing next LMAO
>>739692306Like how the mole people are supposedly driving factors of important events but you don't even find out they exist if you picked the wrong color at the start of the game.
tomboy pussy
>>739665162>seething Dimitri self insert dickletBoring
>this thread
>>739692849>you don't find out they existNigger, you fight them both pre and post timeskip in basically all the routes.
>>739692710>More attempts at semanticsNot even true btw, he explicitly discerns the Demon King from a human possessed by the Demon King. Compare the convo in Eirika route to Ephraim route for the proof.
>>739693026They're just generic ugly bad guys with unknown origins or motives
>>739692592I will agree that some characters motivation in CF, but a lot of them do make sense in the context of the story where they show that they could easily go to Edelgard's side. Half of the Golden Deer are civilians who don't care about the Alliance, the other half come from opportunistic families who throw their lot with the Empire, the teachers are from there, Shamir is a Merc and Alois will go where you tell him to. Mercedes has reasons to join her brother and doesn't care about the kingdom, and Sylvain and Felix have it of a bad end to their character arcs even if them betraying Dimitri is out of character. Annette, Ingrid and Ashe are the one that make the least sense.
>>739661194every time I see fanart of this game it looks like tumblr slop
>>739692849Gee, I wonder who those crazy mole people that murdered your dad and trapped you in the void were.Dimitri not assaulting their vase isn't the same as not knowing they were there retard.
>>739689524I would just tell Celica that other nation survives without Mila.
>>739693317See >>739693124
This was a truly terrible thread. Thank you anons.
>>739661194Theodora SEXO.
>>739659672I pray Fortune’s Weave release is accompanied by a Switch 2 edition of 3H.Probably the switch 1 game that most desperately needs the touch up.
>>739692862>Only 3H character without le tragic backstoryBased tomboy
>>739693849If they didn't nerf her hard by not making her Byleth's childhood friend for some retarded reason, she would be the uncontested best girl.
>>739662695They look handsome
>>739692849Did you watch the game on youtube and skipped through it? If your complaint was the the restricted scope of each path means you don't get all the information regarding them unless you play VW, then sure. But you fucking fight them in every path, they are the main enemy for the school section and the fact that they're connected to Adrestia and opposed to the Church is made evident in every path.
>>739657661>Who did you pick?Edelgard cause she shares the same voice as one of the control towers in Armored Core 4 Answer and I think that voice is sexo
>>739693849>Based tomboyLeonie is arguably the worst tomboy in FE.And that is saying something considering the stiff competition.
>>739693310Because thats the only group an all black cast appeals to.
>>739692758Route splits that are actually done halfway not from the start? Kinda like FE8 but this one is more drastic.Time skips?Dimitri, Edelgard, and Claude are actually pretty unique protagonists in terms of personality and quirks that also contributed alot to the story? Bringing back Jugdral elements while doing more things with them is a good thing while also integrating them with modern styled characters. (cult, crests/holy blood)Fighting characters that you already know before in the story?>Prince who miraculously spares all his enemiesI don't think this is interesting since you only see it in the story while gameplay-wise you are just killing them all. Just classic gameplay and story segregation.>spiritual stands who take the shape of rings and imbue wearers with special powersI mean in terms of FE it is new but you forgot Tokyo Mirage Sessions which is pretty similar. Also the concept is pretty out of there either and not something you'd appreciate in an FE setting.>damned ridiculous in its basic plot structure and storytellingbecause it's more interesting. you still haven't told me why you prefer the boring, shallow and clichefest of fates than the messy yet substantive that 3H is
>>739694226Leonie is based all the way, only self insert fags hate her because she dares criticize Byleth for something that he deserves to be criticized for.
>>739694026They're just a bogstandard evil faction that does evil shit from my blue lions playthrough. Pretty uninteresting and poorly written.
>>739694283>only self insert fags hate heridk if I'd say that. Pretty much everyone hated her for the first year or 2. And by everyone I mean Reddit and Twitter but that's where all FE fans reside anyway so whatever
>>7396942423H isn't even the second time FE has done time skips
Eirika Route is Lyon being fully possessed by the Demon KingEphraim Route is Lyon thinking that he controlled the power but then the DK reveals that he could have taken him over at any time but refused to do so because it was funny.
>>739694317That doesn't change at all in any other routes. If anything, it just becomes more retarded as you learn the shit they could get away with without being found or the dumb power they have.
>>739693849Hilda, Lindhart, Lorenzo, Caspar and Ignatz had perfectly normal childhoods for their stations. And some others like Annette, Sylvain, Balthus and Claude could hardly be called tragic, just not ideal.
>>739694026The only thing more information will do is make the mole people seem even more retarded.
>>739694317Ok, but they don't come out of nowhere. At worst, you can come out thinking they're some weird faction of the empire that is not explained in depth.Stop moving goalposts.
>>739693441Rigel is a clear shitshow and they're also suffering because Duma degenerated. So it doesnt really "help".
>>739694453Don't forget the "I can't do anything about the past and so I can only work towards the future and not dwell on painful memories" lad
>>739694454Again, not the point. You're free to dislike 3H's story, it sure has many issues. The statement was that things just happen out of nowhere, whereas in FUCKING FATES, they are properly foreshadowed and well explained.
>>7396922593H has a lot of "lore" for amateur writers to fawn over.
>>739694283Retard
Engage = Mario Galaxy3H = Mario Sunshine
>>739694616Repeating yourself won't make your statements any more true, you know.
>>739694770We got the most deranged post right before we reached bump limit.
>>739694518Other other nation.
>>739694242Brother, I have explained that I don't like Fates's writing. It's not a compliment to be compared unfavorably to Fates's writing. Both are just really bad. But nobody really praises Fates's writing, so you see the difference.
they have sex
>>739694770You mean 3H is the worst FE game? That tracks.
>>739694493Worse, they don't come out. They just stop existing when their existence is inconvenient for the plot.
>>739694770what is Thracia776?
>>739694947With who Claude and Dimitri?
>>739695103You kill their entire leadership and they still show up in the final map, with them scattering in fear when you kill the last leader. What the fuck are you on about?
>>739695116Mario World on the GBA
>>739695116Mario the Lost Levels
>>739695167I'm convinced this motherfucker never played the game.
>>739695128Cyril and Hanneman
I need to see FE girl pussy right away
>>739695292Not totally terrible. There are definitely worse options
>>739695167I was fighting Edelgard on the final map
>>739694770>Comparing the best Mario Game to a gay piece of shit like Engage.Kill yourself.I don’t even care if you’re trying to make this comparison in a positive or negative way.
>>739694770>Comparing the best Mario game with the best FE gameBased
>>739694920I don't know if you are trying to be witty or ironic but from all these posts you didn't sound like someone that dislike Fates.Even comparing Fates writing to other FE doesn't do other FE justice.>>739694447OK then, a time skip where you actually still play the same character.
>>739693106That's not semantics, it's literally what happened.You claimed that Lyon transformed into a demon, then posted the script showing he was still human.You're just a retard.
>>739695421How do you even survive day to day? I'm not convinced you can even dress yourself properly.
>>739695009It's Fates.
>>739696140Edelgard is a mole?
>>739696136>showing he was still human.Where's that? Eirika route Lyon is explicitly the Demon King, you illiterate.
>>739696116More than one person is talking to you. I have not praised Fates writing at any point. I made the argument that Fates writing is better than 3H writing in a specific way, but not by much. It's a condemnation of both.But where Fates is ridiculed for its incoherence, 3H's incoherence is excused because people like the game on a vibes level - or so it appears to me.I honestly believe if Byleth did not exist as self insert, and the story was told entirely from the perspective of the lords, and you couldn't marry anyone, no one would care about 3H's writing at all. Its legacy subsists on the culture war.
>>739696287The quote you posted has Morva call Lyon a human.You're now saying that your own evidence is wrong.
>>739696385That's on Ephraim route, you absolute dumbass. On Eirika route, he's completely possessed, which is the entire point. Do you think I've been distingusihing both routes for no reason?
>>739696495>argue that Lyon "turned into a demon">now scaled back to just possession>>>>claim that someone else was arguing semanticsDude, you fucked yourself. That's pretty impressive.
>>739696495>>739696730Oh, and I forgot.>>>>>>>>>>all of this to justify that Gooron has better foreshadowing than needing to kill Edelgard
>>739696730He turned into a demon, yes. He was completely possessed into the demon king, turning into him.
>NOOOO how dare you forget details of this game you played a decade ago and you need 300 hours to get one complete story from!!@
>>739696797>these semanticsFucking lmao. Pathetic.No, he was just possessed. He didn't turn into a demon at all.Hell, he wasn't even completely possessed. You're arguing about the Eirika route, but Lyon repeatedly talks to her, especially in the final mission. He wouldn't be able to do that if he was completely possessed.You're just an idiot.
>>739696914>Possession: domination by something (such as an evil spirit, a passion, or an idea)You are literally arguing semantics over what possession means, you have nothing. Morva still exists to explicitly call the demon king the demon king, while distinguishing Lyon as being manipulated by the demon king.
>>739697053You said he transformed. He didn't. This was to justify Garon transforming from a human into a goo monster.You then changed the goalposts to possession, which is a completely different thing. Which is why it's a separate word.You've forgotten what your original argument was and have thrown it under the bus, just because you were losing another one.
>>739697201Yeah, he did transform from a human into the demon king. Again, you're digging yourself deeper by relying on just trying to argue the meaning of words instead of just acknowledging your cognitive dissonance of Garon's story being a typical FE corruption trope.
>>739696913Anon, SS is like 6 hours tops if you play it like God intended by letting Seth solo.
>>739697351>Yeah, he did transform from a human into the demon king.Fucking when? You still never gave an example. The closest you get is possession, which is a very semantics way of going "Uh, I meant transforming like THIS."And if you do it that way, then it's not relevant to the "Garon turning into a goo monster" discussion at all.So you just lose, no matter what angle you take.
>>739697445I did, Morva proves it as clear as day. You just don't like it because it proves that you have no evidence that there's anything wrong with Garon being a dragon/goo especially in the context of FE.
Equalizers are a fucking scam. Never bother with them.
>they're still arguing about goo for some reason
Niggas really be arguing over literally words
