Do you guys like the trails series? I've played ToCS 1 and 2 and they're dammed good, especially 2
I played all of them.
>>739657774Yeah they're solid JRPG. I started with Reverie and have been playing ever since. I think a new Trails in the Sky remake is supposed to come out soon.
Totally. They're all great. Some are a little less so, like Sky 3 and Daybreak 2, but the vast majority are fantastic. Thhe latest one, Horizon, especially rocked.
>>739657774If you played Cs 1 and 2, then you should be done with the series. Do not bother with anything else.
>>739657774i used to but the shittiness of cold steel and calvard killed it for mr
>>739657774Played them all up to Hahajamari. Seemed like a good time to let it cook some more. Maybe I'll just let it finish at this point and then start it again.
>>739657774Dropped it after the trashfire that was CS4.
>>739657774You'll eventually get sick of it because it's the same shit over and over; The story, the characters, the flow of the scenes, the conversations.
>>739657774Not really, no. I liked a few of the games in isolation but the series as a whole is largely uninspired and repetitive.
loved skycrossbell was good but they kinda fumbled it at the endcold steel was extremely hit or misscalvard has mostly been bad so fari pretty much only.play it out of sunk cost at this point and each arc just feels like a downgrade from the last
It's the only JRPG series worth playing.
>>739657774I’m not level 80+ autistic so no I’m not into trails
>>739661167This. The first Trails game I played I liked a lot but by the 5th or 6th one I just started mashing A through most of the dialogue in any given scene because it's all shit you've seen 100000 times by now.
>>739661609Get away from me normalfag.
For me, it's Towa.And yes, absolutely. Truly the greatest RPG series.>>739659940Starting at Reverie is so wild. Didn't you wonder who the hell everyone was?
I dropped SMT VV because of the gay anime aesthetics/tropes and the bloated, grindy gameplay (or systems around the gameplay). Also hated the large portions of boring story/exposition. Will I like Trails?
>>739662305LmaoTrails literally ranks among the highest word count in video games, only beaten by a few VNs and CRPGS. SMT is a silent film in comparison.
>>739662493As I've gotten older I've become increasingly less tolerant for the shit writing and pacing of video games.I'm becoming a gameplay-only boomer
>>739662739if you cant handle shit writing then give trails the widest berth possible
>>739662305Maybe The Last of Us is more your speed grandpa
Tranny-coded series. Stay away.
>>739662739Bro Trails has THE worst pacing in all of video games.
>>739662739Go play Ys instead
>>739663160And that's how I like it!
>>739657774Haha...
>>739657774Yes I've played every single game and I've yet to play a bad one. One of the most consistently great JRPGs ever made. CS is the best arc.
>>739662058>Starting at Reverie is so wild.hajimari means beginning after all innit
>>739657774Love them but they constant changing party members makes it imposible to plan your builds and this diminishes the quality of the games, this is why Zero is the best one, the less guests the better
>>739668814Definitely do like just having a single consistent party throughout the game.
>this is Rean now
>>739657774I've played every single trails game and they are fun. I am not a big fan of the last arc, though. It is very drawn out, it spends a lot of time with the worst factions and nothing happens and the combat could be better. The last game in the current arc was the only good one, but only by the end where it ends on the biggest cliffhanger this series ever had. And we don't even know when the next one's coming out.
>>739663101>olivert fucks thatbased
>>739671186moar liek she fucks him
>>739662305>SMT VV>the gay anime aesthetics/tropesnigga you gay>the bloated, grindy gameplayYou were clearly playing it wrong. SMTs overall are not that grindy you just need to get better demons for specific situations, think about your build in advance. SMT is basically harder Pokémon for adults.Anyway, trails is NOT for you. It doesn't get too grindy, but there are tons of story, tones of anime tropes.
>>739671257Man I fucking wish Schera pegged me...
I like Altina
>>739660885they want to announce the final game in the series in 2031 (it is weird they announced when they want to announce the final game with no indication of how many games in between then)
I'm halfway into the first Calvard game the combat in the erebonia games did feel pretty comfy and easy after 5 games so shaking it up was good. but fuck me it's shit in daybreak 1, a single super craft will straight up kill any boss that's not the end of chapter guy. having to use boost to use super craft still doesn't feel good yet and it feels silly that it increases your max boost gauge because the fight is always over before you even refill the two boost slots you usedis it more balanced in daybreak 2 or horizons? or at least do they increase the health of enemies
>>739657774RELEASE THE AURELIA GAME
Just beat CS1 and had a good time, does it really drop off that badly after 2?
>>739674359THIS
Rean...
Crossbell? Umm yeah it's RixiaCold steel? Oh yes it's AltinaCalvard? Miss me with that shit
>>739674468No, 3 is good, 4 is utter nonsenseHajimari is PEAK gameplay but apart from ???'s route the story is skip tier
>>739674468i don't know why people like CS1 over CS2 personally i found the rigid structure of the school repetitive and boringCS3 is the school structure again so if you liked it you have more to look forward to
>>739674468my universal advice is to simply keep playing them for as long as you feel like and ignore what anyone else says. your experience will be unique and your favourites will inevitably be someone else's worst games in the series. just enjoy the ride at your own pace and take breaks between games so you don't burn out.
I hope when they remake zero and azure, which don't need remakes but that won't stop them, instead of resetting rixia's chest it will be even bigger
>>739675005>just enjoy the ride at your own pace and take breaks between games so you don't burn out.no you should play all 13 games in 6 months
>>739675073i hope shirley's 3D momi momi of rixia will show finger indentation on the breasts
I liked Sky FC and SCNever played any other one
>>739674468CS1 is the best but CS4 is the 2nd best and then 3 is the 3rd best.>>739674664School was comfy and I enjoyed the SOL vibe of just going around seeing how everyone was doing between missions. It helps with the pacing a lot too since the game is broken up into the school parts and trips.
>>739662305>I dropped SMT VV because of the gay anime aesthetics/tropes and the bloated, grindy gameplay (or systems around the gameplay). Also hated the large portions of boring story/exposition. Will I like Trails?Aside from the gameplay (which isn't true for SMT either) Trails is exactly like that but turned up to 11 so no.
>>739661167Only true if you play back-to-back which you should never do with ANY game, period.After a few months of abstinence you WILL crave comfy sloppa that is kiseki dialogue.
>>739675005This is honestly the best advice, I had literal years of people telling me the CS games suck and that the series nosedives off a cliff after Crossbell but Cold Steel is my favourite arc and I'm liking Daybreak just as much too. It's all up to your personal preference, honestly if I try seperate myself from bias all the games are on around the same level of quality anyways so personal preferences is all that matters. That's why you'll see basically every single game in the series as someone's favourite game.
>>739676024>That's why you'll see basically every single game in the series as someone's favourite game....except daybreak 2
>>739674664CS1 has a ton more novel locations than CS2 and relatively low-stakes go well with comfy sloppa dialogue. I could not take CS2 seriously.
>Play CS3 >Get to the festival after the dark dragon shit>Lose my save file>Lose all will to continue the series
I've got Trails into Reverie stalled. I think I'm finally fed up with the sporadic voice acting and I won't finish this series ever because of it. I miss playing Trails in the Sky games, which were fully voiced (even side quests and such).
>>739676024>contrarian trolls are the loudest bunchlittle surprise there haha
>>739676264but the trails in the sky games had 0 voice actingno i will not play your woke mod
>japan>hire the most expensive VA and cut voiced lines to save money>it's OK>le heckin' west>hire a literal who>he hardcarries the castIs clout that much important for japos than doing a good job? I was referring to Ban-san btw.
>>739676084Yeah I don't think I've ever seen Daybreak 2 as someone's favourite.>>739676298I wouldn't call it outright contrarianism(though it's definitely a factor). I can see WHY Cold Steel is decisive and why some people wouldn't like that. I just found it's tone and setting to be a lot more to my personal preferences.
>>739676318evo had full main scenario voice acting and i think even some side questsonly reason they did is because falcom didnt make the evo versions of sky/crosdbell because theyre cheap
>>739657774I'm currently playing through the series and I'm at CS3. I do not understand why Rean is so popular even though he's literally the butt of the joke in CS3. For example,After the Rean fight as Lloyd at the end of CS2 it makes it pretty clear that Rean was holding back and Lloyd acknowledges that he and Rixia barely scrapped out a win>In CS3 the fight gets brought up and Rean straight up says he got his ass beat and that he had zero chance The hell is this writing? Was he just lying to soothe Juna's rising autistic anger over her idol getting his shit rocked?
>>739676602>Was he just lying to soothe Juna's rising autistic anger over her idol getting his shit rocked?This plus low self-esteem issues still plague him until hajimari late-game
>>7396760141 was top comfy. I had to rush into 2 because of the cliffhanger.2 was cliche. I was expecting a new area but was retreading the same map.Crossbell was comfy at first, but I dropped interest when they adopted the coffin girl
I really dont get how Rean has developed the reputation he has, especially to the point that people that havent played the games are screeching over him being some sort of bad character that doesnt face consequences because some guy somewhere said that Rean was a mary sue or some shit.
>>739676602>3 games in and this dumbo still hasn't picked up on Rean's excessive, self deprecating humility that he constantly shows
To this day, I do not understand why the Erebonia arc is so loved. Everyone is overly forgiving.>Crow started a civil war and got god knows how many people killed? He's our friend! We need to stop him so we can graduate together!!>Prince Cedric literally starts working for Ouroborus? He's a good boy! He's just trying to do right!>Duke Cayenne literally tried causing the apocalypse because Driechles kicked the shit out of his ancestor? Nah let's not execute his ass for high treason.> George gets revealed to be a gnome and was actually secretly sabotaging everyone whole time because he was working directly for the Black Workshop and Alberich? He's our friend though!!
>>739674468Yes it does, you’ll soon learn that this series is masterful at setup and abysmal at execution.
>>739676884>Crow started a civil war and got god knows how many people killed?Not so many actually.
>>739676884its popular because it has dating sim mechanics and a harem katana protagonist that is
>>739676981That we see. It was a civil war, anon. The Imperial Army took casualties and it straight up says shit was getting bad on the other side of the country. So it's reasonable to believe that the death toll was in the thousands.
>>739676884>Crowe started a civil warThey already had a festering undercurrent, Crowe was just a patsy used by the noble faction.>>739676981We never see what happens in Parm or Ordis where the real fighting happened. Roer was ruled by someone who didnt really take part and Albarea's section was like the first place we did.
>George Nome>Real name is revealed to be Copper George and he is actually a Gnome>His alias was also literally just gnome
>>739676884>build up a civil war in erebonia for 6 games>finally happens>haha all the serious fighting is happening off screen dont think about it bro just go find your school friendsi hate japan so muchthey just never deliver on what they promise
>>739677229>Turns out he didn’t kill anyone and is still a good guyCopper Gayorg can get fucked
Spoilers, niggers, use spoilers/v/ is a newfag board
>>739677136>We never see what happens in Parm or OrdisParm is ruled by the cool Hyarms dude. And also the west side is lead by cool dudes Olivert and Victor. I doubt much bloodshed happened. Just bunch of military damages.
>>739677397Old spoilers. Osborne is Driechles and is being puppeted by Ishmelga.
FUJIN REPPA
>>739677720You need to play like 400 hours worth of games to even understand what this might mean
I want to replay the whole series but XSEED keeps randomly patching Sky with 2MB updates that break the voice acting mod and I can never figure out how to get it working again properly so I decided fuck it I'll just wait two years and go through it all once SC and Third are remade, the rest of the series if fine gameplay-wise it was just Sky that was kind of shit because you couldn't back attack small fry and every boss was just Earth Wall spam.
>Get to ending of CS2>Oh damn Crowe actually dies>Finish epilogue >Immediately boot up CS3>Start new game and watch opening movie >mfw Azure Siegfried is shown
>>739677230>Country is in all out war with it's neighbor>Ion cannon deletes a military base>"No big deal lmao, it was empty, everyone was out talking a walk at the same time, not even a skeleton crew was inside."CS4 and Reverie did so much fucking damage to this series, I can't take it seriously at all any more, but I still can't bring myself to hate it.
>>739677720>inb4 like spoiling titanic huehueIf there is a movie thread you know there'll be those who watched it and the thread is full of spoilers. Trails is like a dozen games long, can't assume everyone played the entire series. Want to discuss up to Horizon - make a Horizon thread.>>739677762You have at least OP who just finished CS2. He will understand.
>>739677934they do a fake out death for crow like 3 fucking timeseven one piece would blush
>>739677969We're talking about the CS games, so anything in said games are fair game.
Is Kuro 2 as bad as people make out?
>>739678053The Calvard arc is shit in general.
I played through Trails in the Sky part 1 and found it largely unimpressive.Does it get better in the other games or am I better off not bothering with the series?
>>739657774I enjoyed my time with Trails but I will never pick it back up again.Anyway, I'm here to post this then dip. https://youtu.be/e7gIALRaSMA
>>739677956>CS4 and ReverieNo one died Loewe dropped Ragnar on BoseNo one died when Ouroboros raided GrancelLuciola didnt die when she jumped off the Liber ArkNo one died when the Aion's shot Garrelia
>>739678134Original or Remake?Either way if you got all the way to the end and the cliffhanger didn't hook you, the series isn't for you.
>>739678134every game afterwards is twice as long and contains about the same amount of plot
>>739678279None of those things were apparant at the time and were all retconned later.Like how in Third it was pretty clear that Renne was a child prostitute with dissasociative identity disporder and Zero reaffirms that but then Kuro is like "Nope her cope hallucinations were real people and the cultists weren't all that bad really."
Altina is the ultimate female lifeformYou don't need anything else
Nothing Ever Happens: The Series (feat. ReanGOD and his sluts)
>>739657774nah I hate the combat system.
>>739678402>None of those things were apparent at the timeThey confirm in the same damn game that no one died in the Bose attack, just some injuries. Especially with the mayor and her maid having the scare. >RenneWas left ambiguous on purpose, because I knew people who theorized that she developed DID to cope with her friends disappearing and that's why Pater Mater was actually able to work without breaking her.
>>739678634>Was left ambiguous on purposeBrother it's clear as day at the ending of the door what happened to her. She goes to attend her "first" ever gentleman and her owner tells her to act the same as she always does.Josh finds her on the verge of death from self harm.Yeah no let's pretend the games are all equally dark lmao.
>>739678854I'm talking about the part about whether or not Quatre and the others were real people all along and not just tulpas she made up. We all know that Renne got DID among other issues and it took several games of help for her to get over it.
>>739678287>>739678391I played the original.My main issue with the game was how railroaded it was - you didn't even get to choose which characters to take on the team most of the time and where you were allowed to go during every chapter was very limited.I didn't really care about the plot because nothing ever happened for 80% of the game.My favorite part was the final dungeon because they actually let you edit your party for the first time in the game.
>>739679085Renne's ego was being protected by something, she was able to mentally distance herself from her abuse until the end. If her roommates were real this doesn't track anymore. Her first service should have in fact been her first service, but it wasn't.It's a fucking retcon because child abuse is too dark for modern audiences to want to think about.
>>739674225Daybreak 2 puts a "1 S-Craft per full S-Boost" so you can't spam S-Craft in one full boost like before.Also, enemies can S Break too given certain conditions so some fights can wipe you out if you're not shielded.I heard Horizon Nightmare difficulty is actually hard though, like Sky 3rd Nightmare hard.
just completed the sky trilogy. 3rd was my favorite cause of the character stories even though some of it were lame like campanella breaking the 4th wall also there's no way this shit is not getting censored in the remake
>>739679147SC is pretty rigid on team composition as well, at the very beginning you get to pick one of two people to accompany you for the first half of the game. Other people appear as you move from town to town again much like the first game. You very rarely have less than 4 people though unlike in part 1 where you're a duo more often than not.In the second half of SC more people assemble in your group and you start to get teambuilding decisions. In the final dungeon you can bring whoever you like.Third is very open throughout the whole game, you have one (sometimes two) person who MUST be in the party but otherwise you can bring anyone you have access to, at the end of the game you need to clear a big old dungeon with four separate parties that use the entire roster of playable characters so far.Crossbell: You WILL use the SSS team for the entire arc and you will like it, some bonus characters appear in chapter climaxes but they don't hang around.Cold Steel: Game opens with 9 playable characters, you get split randomly in half each chapter and have to form a team with who you have but from this point in the series you can hotswap people during battles anyway.Later on in Cold Steel and onwards you see more of the multi-party gimmicks where different teams are in different wings of a dungeon and need to move through it together or in Reverie different groups of people are participating in different stories in different nations simultaneously which is kind of fun I guess.By the end of Cold Steel 4/Reverie the party roster is like 200 playable characters get fucked lmao.
>Civil war>"We're gonna be NOOTRULL and not take a side!">Except they always only ever fight Cayenne's goons because they act like moustache-twirling villains while the other side is squeaky clean.
>>739679786That's literally the point of the whole story. Rean does the right thing every step of the way and ends up the villain. He got played like a damn fiddle.
>>739679226Renne being the only person getting diddled in Paradise makes even less sense. Its obvious that they'd have a massive underground ring and when they children got used up or whatever, they'd throw them out and get more. Renne's "first service" is the first one she did as Renne and not imitating some other child/with no support system etc.
>>739679905Sasuga Ishmelga Osborne Einstein-sama... perhaps we could've avoided this if we met Musse and her dimensional 10D chess mental abilities sooner....
>>739674225>a single super craft will straight up kill any boss that's not the end of chapter guy.Sekitoba (500% CP when hit by enemy) + Scent (90% aggro up) quartz are pretty effective to Van when used together with his Coin Bullet craft. Imagine spamming more S-Break with him everytime he got hit.
>>739680102It's not that she's the only person in the lodge, she's the only person in HER room. Every time someone leaves to service someone on her behalf, she's doing it herself while disassosciating.
>>739680310Muse has the brainpower to solve every crisis in Zemuria unfortunately she's dedicating 99% of it to figuring out how to get Rean to fuck her and she's failing.
>>739680540That means getting rean in the sack is harder then running an entire continent
>>739680409And she would have inevitably met with other children in paradise anon.
>>739680540>Rean's brain is such a dense black hole that he's in a quantum state of being taken advantage of yet also being impossible to readHaha... naruhodo ne......masaka, the one who raped Rean in a cave, perhaps she...!
Another trails slop thread. These fags need to be quarantined to pol, because vg is not good enough for them.
>REAN PLEASE I'M THE PRETTIEST GIRL IN ZEMURIA AND ALSO THE PRINCESS PLEASE HAVE SEX WITH ME YOU'LL BE KING AND ALSO I DONT MIND IF YOU FUCK YOUR SISTER ON THE SIDE OR IF WE HAVE THREESOMES JUST PLEASE PLEASE HAVE SEXHaha
>>739680913Is Rean gay?
>>739681093Autistic, sword autistic.And so is Laura which is why she was the only one able to penetrate him so far like anon just pointed out.
>>739657774It had the potential to be my favourite game series of all time, but there are zero fucking stakes. No main character ever dies, so whenever a big bad shows up and everyone's like "BE CAREFUL GUYS, HE'S STRONG" it's just like shut the fuck up, nothing is gonna happen. If characters actually died when poweful enemies appeared, it'd add so much more.
>>73968123812 games in and not one single main party character has died yet. What's the fucking point?
>>739681238Market manager Otto... he's forgotto...
>>739681227Towa gets HIM to initiate after taking critical short jokes but yeah the Rapeseid school did it in the first bondThat's impressive
>>739681343i was so pissed that my guy otto croaked yet crow gets to livewe live in a society
It won't take long for them to remake 3rd right? I mean 90% of it is reused assets from SC
>>739681238"Khhh... students, get back. I'll have to-""Instructor Rean....!"cue musicepic intro of Familiar Character fighting back the Bad Guys"Heh, looks like I'm right on time.""Is that [Acquaintance]...?!"
>>739681227I haven't played past Reverie. Does Shizuna Nakadashi whatever her name is get to Rean-sama too?
>>739657774the first trails in the sky is the only good game in the series
>>739681660>Coem to me! Valimar>Not so fast!>Looks like I'll have to use... THAT>Masaka!>Haha, sasuga Reene
It upsets me that rean never reached the level of aura he had on the pantagruel ever again
>>739677023Not really. I've seen plenty of people say it's the best arc despite hating the harem stuff. People just like the aesthetics of Erebonia over Libarel and Crossbell. That's the only reason.
>>739681743>>739681660>My name is Evil Rapeman and I'm here to kill you and explode the world, Rean>camera zooms out>200 people are there>Rean_speech.wav plays>everyone takes their turn to say "Yeah" and "We got this!" or "Rean...!">DEFEAT EVIL RAPEMAN (get his hp down to 50%)>use epic killer blade katana attack and cut him in two>cutscene where Rean and the clown car loses>"No.... not like this...">then Evil Rapeman kills himself (the curse was there)
>>739681761It upsets me that they didn't leave him with half-white-half-black hair once all was said and done.
>>739681765It's a fun game, you get to ride a train around and have episodic little adventures with your school chums and it feels like Harry Potter or something.
>>739679721>Later on in Cold Steel and onwards you see more of the multi-party gimmicks where different teams are in different wings of a dungeon and need to move through it together or in Reverie different groups of people are participating in different stories in different nations simultaneously which is kind of fun I guess.>By the end of Cold Steel 4/Reverie the party roster is like 200 playable characters get fucked lmao.That actually sounds fun but I'm not sure I want to sit through several more games to get to this point.
>>739682095also evil rapeman was actually misunderstood and kind of a good guy and invented something that he hands off to Rean before he dies and it's a tool that lets Renne be unraped
>>739682132Him just getting his hair fixed bugged me. There being literally zero lasting consequences to his curse powers is cringe.
Perhaps the true curse was causing Rean to not want to fuck his sister...
>>739682326If you want to start at Cold Steel 1 you can absolutely do that.You can even start at 3 if you want because Junie is in the party so you can self insert on her and anything unfamiliar to her will be explained to you which is almost everything that isn't in Crossbell.
The absolute peak moment of the series is in CS4 when McBurn goes "Yeah sorry" then teleports awayThat singular moment cemented the series as the greatest of all time for meYou literally can't top this
>>739681761they spent like 1/4 of the latest game solely wanking rean off though
>>739682587True. Rean had mad aura in Horizon.
>>739682654Is Kuro 3 still the latest game in the series? What's going on? Isn't it a few years old already?Is the series dead?
>>739657774how does this compare if you like old ff and e33
>>739682750They recognized that both Daybreak 2 and Horizon were rushed as fuck so they said that they're going to take their time to really polish the next game which is why we're getting these remakes to pad the releases out.
>>739682894do you get the ick from certified anime classics tropes
>>739682895Have they said anything about the next game at all? Is it Kuro 4 or a new arc?
>>739683013no, I like animebut i recently tried the persona 3 remake and got bored 20h in (first persona for me)
>>739657774Yeah I like the Cold Steel quadrilogy and the Crossbell duology. Played Cold Steel IV on Nightmare and some bosses took me like 30 minutes which I actually didn’t mind, made it feel more epic. Laura is best gorl, pic related. Jusis’ platinum shield and Emma’s S Craft were also goated. I hated having to use the nu-fuckers in Cold Steel 3, so happy that CS4 let me use my actual team again.
>>739682895i dont believe that for a fucking secondhorizon 2 is going to be just as rushed, padded and lacking in new locations as daybreak 2 and horizon 2 werethey only stopped because they wanted easy wins with sky remakes, guarantee you horizon 2 has barely even started pre production given how many other projects they have
>>739683387I'm always afraid to play JRPGs at high difficulty because I worry it's just going to turn things into sponges that bloat the playtime.Like yeah the final boss has 5x the HP but how does that stop me from abusing accelerate to kill him before he takes a single turn regardless?
>>739657774you should play sky 1st, it's like cold steel but way better
>>739683173persona 3 is broody and depressing but the remake lighting makes it look like 5just try persona 5 is my advicecold steel is even SLOWER than persona so if thats the part you disliked you won't be happy, it's a lot more cheerful and memey than p3 though
>>739682894Cold Steel is basically the FFX battle system with added movement mechanics. I love FFIV through FFX and latched onto it pretty quick. BE WARNED though that Cold Steel is INCREDIBLY LOW BUDGET compared to mainline Final Fantasy games. These are games that came out in the ps4 era but have ps2 graphics. The music and voice acting are great but keep your expectations in check on the graphics and animations.
I play Cold Steel with 999999x damage for Rean because that's his canon strength
>>739683692My first playthrough of Cold Steel was on Vita
>>739683173Persona 3 is my least favourite Persona. It's just pretentious melodrama for edgy 14 year olds who think exploring death thematically is deep and profound when the conclusion the game comes up with is just the most generic "live your life how you want" it could possibly aim for.
I really hope they let you take Anelace to the final dungeon in 2-2It'd be a retcon but I don't give a shit
>>739657774https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ppf4yhbfllY
>>739683941You took a comfy game and made it even comfier.
Rean is literally me, haha...
>>739663101>browner she gets the more angry she looksTruth
>>739657774CS2 is the best one, it only goes downhill from there
>>739674531Imagine being a homosexual man lover and not picking Feri
>>739679329i've never been a nightmare difficulty guy just not my kind of fun. i had been just leaving it all on normal for every game but daybreak made me bump it up to hard after a while. (i did try nightmare but i couldn't stand chapter 5 where the enemy team would fire off multiple super crafts right after each other leading to a team wipe)limiting super crafts does sound like i would end up using normal crafts more often which might be nice.
>>739679786>civil war>but we already spoiled how it ends and even a surprising reveal at the end of the previous gamewhy did they even do that? there wasn't really a reason to include it in the epilogue of azure
>>739688295well they didnt even give azure a real ending at all so they figured they had to give you SOMETHING considering the "epilogue" to the crossbell arc is just an ad for cold steel
>>739688369yeah but they could have also just said crosbell gets invaded by the empire, without specifying that osborne won the civil war. and then they try and keep up the kayfabe that osborne was assasinated in Cold Steel even though they already made it canon that he is alive years ago.
>>739668814I hate this take and the brainlets that spew it. If you had a consistent party the whole time you'd just pick the strongest characters and play with the same old party configuration the whole time (with some changes when you get enough quartz to substantially change things, but that's not enough for like a 80 hour JRPG). That's fucking boring. Having to adapt to different (ideally imperfect) parties is what keeps it fresh.
>Towa is only 4'11 by Kuro 2She really is the best.
>>739683387i like to think of it as the CrossSteel Septology
>>739684647would you accept the retcon if it also introduced time jannies
>>739688295Yeah having Cold Steel start in the middle of the Crossbell arc was retarded. There's a reason why they haven't done it again
>>739689071I mean it basically already happened in 1's remake with the new sidequests so sure.She joins your party pre-climax in the original for like 20 minutes, all she has to do is stay.She doesn't leave to do anything important.
Laura sounds like she's getting goosed mid sentence when she uses Azure Cleaver in CS3.
>>739657774I quit the series after Coldsteel 3.Have great memories of Trails 1-5 though.
>>739689191what are the new side quests? i haven't played the remakes yet they are gonna be my cope games for when i finally catch up to horizon probably by next year
>>739689570Each chapter gets one new quest, the first one is kind of cute because it focuses on Estelle's school buddies, the rest are straight out of Cold Steel>Emergency quest, go find some missing bracers>Oh no! Kurt is lost in the valley>There he is, he's in trouble>Not so fast!>He's using THAT arte>Incredible>More showed up!>Thanks for the save guysBut Anelace gets more screentime at least
>>739689467I hope they do Philip's scene in 2's remake justice.
>>739689831the new quests they added feel so out of place compared to the old writing and it took me out of it every timeit really does highlight just how addicted to template modern falcom is
>>739657774I just started Trails of Cold Steel, I'm not sure I like the super basic quartz system but at the same time I'm glad I don't have to do no math no more.
What did the writers mean by this?
>>739692339It means an entire part of Langport is controlled by Heiyue, they control the influx of drugs in Calvard and they have connections all over the government but you're racist if you point it out.
>>739688790Having to micromanage 14 characters is not fun, so what I pick the strongest only on my first playthrough, I can always play it again and use a different party
>>739657774Yes. They corny and pretty balless when it comes to actually doing anything impactful in the story but most good JRPGs are that way and I have to admit to myself I like it
>>739657774boring redditslop
>>739657774trails is fun if you dont binge it, treat it as a sloppa break, everytime i want to play something braindead im turning to trails (like the turn off brain isekai anime)but it also attracts the most autistic/corny/and die hard essayists and nitpickers from reddit and discord, stay away on those
It's a white man's series.
>>739689467sad to have great memories from the worst games in the series. Cold steel pwns those arcs lil bro
No one will admit this but CS3 was actually the beginning of the series downfall. Sure CS2 started the whole "nothing happens" state the series got mired in, but the slippery slope was how they decided to proceed with the curse garbage in CS3. Sure, the whole civil war shaped up to be a whole lot of nothing, but there was political and historical tension. 3 threw away all of that and wanted to box everything to a singular cause.
>>739697515That's 4s faultAt the ending of 3 it looked like the curse was some really REALLY bad shit that was unleashed and has consequences when even Ilya dancing was more effective haha
imagine being the one bad guy facing this group...
>>739698032You already know it's over when you see Lloyd "Fuck spoilers" Bannings
>>739657774i played 20 hours of rean's game it was so boring
>>739698032>>739698190ASSEMBLE
>>739698323
>>739685012the last great falcom osthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5sWYNVyUPE
>>739657774Shit eater's choice. Om nom nom.
>>739697717It was 3 that started the whole stringing along players across a whole lot of nothing. Field studies rehash while missing the point, aions reuse, characters needing to have a "role" as they end up being walking plot devices, then finally dumping cliffhangers at the end for cheap drama.Unrelated but that's also when the whole technological scaling went to shit and ended up just being modern day tech
>>7396975153 built up the curse great and ended on a superb cliffhanger and then 4 took that ball and shat all over it and laughed like a retard.
its so funny how powerscaling in trails is basically decided by who is kneeling or simply hunched over after a fight
Is trails the best evolution of turn based or is moving characters around bad?
>>739678053They died around 26 times in that game.
>>739699654The whole "everything bad all the way back to sky" being due to the curse was already there in 3. That can't be good setup
>>739700304I think it's a very positive added layer of depth to combat since it allowed for the extra layer of positioning to be involved when fighting, stuff like spreading your team apart so they don't all get hit by AOEs or using grouping skills to drag a bunch of enemies into a smaller space so they can be hit by smaller AOE attacks are all good and make combat more interesting.
>>739700304Hotswapping characters feels like a must in turn based games for me. I tried playing SMTV and went up against some boss that did massive aoe physical damage. No fucking warning or anything going into it, you just waltz in and die if even one member in your lineup is physical weak.I'm sure some people enjoy that but for me the gameplay being "Guess I'll load a save and come back with a different resistance." isn't particularly fun.
>>739700304The positional focus is one of the best parts of their battle system. There's alot of thinking about how you can soak up damage better by not grouping everyone up, while still being in a formation where you can efficiently apply buffs. and have characters in optimal range for their moves
>>739699804Owari da...
>using artes when you know it’s after the enemies turnWhy bother.
>>739700304It's neat by itself but gets worse and kinda unnecessary when every fucking character gets a shitton of AoE and there's little to no difference between spamming it or ST skills damage wise.
>>739657774They're not really something I'm interested in but Rean memes are fun.
>>739676884The last one is probably the most egregious.>shoots her high school friend>blows up a royal ship>no actually he just tranquilized her and brainwashed her! no murder so it's okay! >the ship crew was saved so technically he dindu nuthin!Fuck you.
>>739677720>hype up villain for 8 games straight>ACKCHUALLYI will never forgive Falcom for this.
>>739698032>Reverie is supposed to be the closer to the Erebonia arc>Lloyd is fucking front and centre 90% of the time instead of Rean during every instance where the three paths intersectI don't get it. They hard focused on Rean because he was the Shounen Ubërmensh, yet have Lloyd essentially be the 'Team Leader' for the final game of the arc
>>739702407The writers have Rean fatigue
>>739657774Cold steel 1 was one of the most boring games I've ever played. I had to drop it.
>>739702457Yeah but why focus on Lloyd 'Personailty of a wall' Bannings? Why not 'C'? Hell Crowe even? Hell Towa would have even made more sense.
Do people actually talk to every npc and every new dialog update between main story?
>>739702610Lloyd is the main protagonist of the trails series
>>739702795I always do, even if I don't remember all the names and little stories. It's part of makes Trails charming and fun, but also where all the bloat comes from. I'm pretty sure you can beat Horizon in like 30 hours if you skip all the NPC talk, but that's boring and gay.
>>739676884>last oneTo be fair it was obvious from the start because fat people are ALWAYS evil in JRPGs.
I actually started the third Steel game a few days ago, and I’m having a blast. Man, you can really feel the jump from PS3 to PS4 graphics. Everything looks so gorgeous.I’m not sure how I feel about Rean being a teacher, though. That feels like something you do with your protagonist after ten years, not one. I mean, Rean is still such a dork. But hey, I like the new Class VII well enough so far, even if some of them feel like remixed versions of your old classmates. Juna, for example, feels really similar to Alisa so far.What I love the most, though, is the combat. It’s so great that enemies now actually have meaningful elemental weaknesses, like 180, instead of just 120 once in a blue moon and two master orbs. Also, is it just me, or are Orders kind of busted? I’m playing on Hard, and with the right Order I can almost rush down any boss before they get to do anything.
>>739701570Rean and Altina literally the best part of Kiseki
>>739704474
>>739704332If you skipped it, there's an anime that shows you what Rean was up to between 2 and 3. It gets referenced despite not appearing in any games.Also Junie is unfathomably based and puts Alisa to shame don't worry about that.
>>739702457lmao I highly doubt that
>>739704332CS3 is pretty much the comfiest CS with a smaller and more interesting casat, I really don't get why people dislike it.CS4 on the other hand is full of shit. Damn wretched fairy tale haha...
>>739704871CS3 is alot of fun to me because of the school and playing it from the perspective of a teacher doting over your students. Falcom is good at writing a crap ton of npc's and thats why their school settings are pretty enjoyable.Its not the best game if you're hungry for PLOT, which for a third game in the arc you would expect more meaningful plot but they leave all of that to CS4
>>739705143The overall plot in Falcom games is almost always pure fucking crap where you fight the most unimaginable demons in the end.
>>739657774trails of subhumans
>>739704871I like CS3 but the original C7 constantly showing up to save the day was fucking unbearable. Someone post the copypasta.
>>739705408Ah yea that was idiotic, especially when Rean himself is a fucking powerhouse.
>>739704605Oh, I didn’t know that, thanks anon. Looks like it was created in 2023 though? Maybe I’ll watch it once I’m done to get that OG experience.
>>739705408I will always hear THAT WON'T BE NECESSARY in my fucking nightmares. Just let Rean do some cool shit. Doesn't help that nu-class 7 are honestly a much better party as a group and individuals.
>>739704605Thought it was horrible. Even anons never post it.
>>739705792I'm about to use THAT, haha...
>>739705820Stronger than Rean.
>>739706092He was holding back
Where’s Alvis game?
>>739705408yes that was awfulmaybe it was cool for people who played on release but i binged cold steel and the constant old class 7 wank felt really stupid after just coming off cs2 lol
>>739705408https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r_tEhzh5X0
>>739704605>Also Junie is unfathomably basedI'm up to Crossbell and so far Juna has been an insufferable autist. I also don't like that meddling green haired bitch.
>>739709790She has an arc.
>>739709931so did Noah
>>739675081I tried and burned out at CS4. Still meaning to pick up from there one day. I'll just watch the CS4 ending online.
>Be Juna>Seething over Crossbell being occupied >Enroll in Thor's Branch >Get mad that Ashen Chevalier is your teacher>Bitch him out over Crossbell >Insist that Erebonia's invasion was unjust>Ignore how your Mayor turned President froze every single Erebonian bank account(the imperial family included) in Crossbell's central bank to pressure them into agreeing with their independence >Ignore how that almost caused an economic crisis in Erebonia >Ignore how Crossbell sicced an Aion of Garellia Fortress and nuked it off the mapJuna is a retard and Crossbell is rightful Erebonia clay.
>>739705408What got me was nu-VII. Like shit guys, if your fucking teacher tells you "Hey, don't fucking follow me, these Ouroborus guys will eat you for breakfast." Than don't fucking follow him! But what do they do? They fucking ignore what he said and follow him anyway, thinking they can definitely take on two members of Ouroborus and only succeed in almost getting themselves killed.
>>739710596t. Osborne
I have been avoiding horizon because of people saying the cliffhanger will piss me off so I thought i'd wait until they at least announce its sequel but i'm so bored bros..
>>739712187Trust them, anon.. that cliffhanger unironically worse than CS3's one.
So here's something that always confused me>The War of Lions was 250yrs ago>The use of Divine Knights and the Magic Knights was extremely fucking common >Most of the Divine Knights were destroyed during the war>250yrs later, the magical shit is treated like myth even though it's still semi-recent history
>>739710596Haha, she ended up falling for Rean like they all do
>>739712521they did explain that divine knights always regenerated if they were destroyed and that they always fade from people's memories. it's a bullshit explanation but it was explained
>>739713209also there were only 3 divine knights used during the war of the lions.
>>739713309sorry, make that 4. forgot the purple one
>>739712521The witches from the Hexen Clan erase everyone's memories related to the Divine Knights.Also none of the mechas was destroyed, only Testa-Rossa was locked away under Heimdallr after the events with the dark dragon.
>>739705792>the tsundere everyone accused alisa of being>laura (male) so unpopular>the lolifag character because Fie's too old now>literally me>and the tease girl that was utterly wastedNu 7 sucked. I only liked Musse because I wanted to fuck her.
>>739713209>they did explain that divine knights always regenerated if they were destroyedUnless the Awakened lost to another in a duel. Then it got absorbed if the loser died during said duel.
>>739713548I didn't like Musse. She was always trying to play the mastermind from behind the scenes and it made her come of as shallow and manipulative
>>739712187yeah it's not a meme, just wait. i am sufferan.
I cry everytime I listen to the Kai/Horizon ending song am I a pussy? Nothing else in the whole series made me cry aside from pater mater dying
>>739717107>pater mater I was laughing out loud when this shit died and the bitch started crying. You get what you fucking deserve. Bitch.
My fuarking heroes...
Rank em
>>739719229tio>renne>KeA>tita>feri>millium>>>>>>>>>>>>power gap>altina
>>739719229Altina>power gap>>>>>>>>>>>>millium>feri>tita>KeA>renne>tio
>>739719856>millium>people actually like this runt
>>739719856you are smoking crack
>>739694592trails is only good when you mindlessly binge it because when you take to time to digest each game you realize how utterly retarded esch game is
I need to replay CS3 and CS4 at some point, I finished them almost 5 years ago and basically haven't touched the series after
>>739662058I'm a weekend binge drinker so I forget everything every weekend anyway.
>>739717107I think the pater-mater scene was the emotional peak of the series for me. I'm a sucker for those kinds of giant robot moments.
>>739671325>nigga you gayI'm talking about the tired Japanese highschool setting with cookie cutter classmates. I couldn't for the life of me give a fuck about the modern Tokyo. The demon designs were great. >you just need to get better demons for specific situationsYeah, and to do that I needed to level the MC so I could fuse worthwhile demons, which required grinding low level mobs for shit exp. Absolute snooze fest. Before you say it I explored the map and completed 90+% of available side quests prior to this. I still needed to grind 2-3 levels to get access to decent demons before fighting the boss in your pic. I did just that and beat her easily, but at that point I realised I just spent 30min-1 hour doing boring shit for 10 mins of fun gameplay fighting the boss. And my reward? More boring Japanese highschool larping. Uninstalled.>>739666249>Go play Ys insteadMy experience with SMT VV reminded me of Ys Origins and how much more fun I had with it. Planning to play the other entries from around that period soon.
>>739724038>I'm talking about the tired Japanese highschool setting with cookie cutter classmates. I couldn't for the life of me give a fuck about the modern Tokyo. The demon designs were great.Bro you go to the highschool like twice in the entire game.
I played 20 hours of the first one, got bored, and never touched it again
>>739698032I'm unfamiliar with Trails, but is that Adol in the back row there?
>>739687498>not picking FeriSuch people don't exist and are only memeing
