https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71VUNMl1u7UAre the majority of japs really that retarded when it comes to piracy or it just some twitter moment?
>>739680650>that is why your societies cannot flourish and cannot createWhich is why there were thirties in Tokyo until Prime Minister Moriya took the helm?
>>739680650nah while they don't boast about it japs pirate about as much as gaijins. they literally created their own winny/PD p2p networks back in the day.just the loud net-uyoku butthurt about evil gaijins while pretending japs shit doesn't stink, also insecurity of jap culture and economic importance getting pushed out by coreans and chinese.
>>739680650piratefags are fucking hypocrites. they buy more shit than normies and consume more media
>imposing western values>im-fucking-plyingJapan is an american colony, ruled by a puppet government that bends over backwards to serve american interests even at great risk to their own populace, and are coerced to do so by a military occupation that ensures they know their place and can never rebel.>if you have a commonly held opinion, isnt it possible you're being swayed by the majority opinion and cant think for yourself? Only the nips could be this cucked.
>>739680650anti-ai people whine about ai all the time then proceed to loudly pirate
>>739680650The jap is right in the OP. Americans once again embarrassing themselves.
>>739681493Because if you pirate, you get to really enjoy a vast amount of content, so you develop standards and tastes and grows to value the actually good stuff and goes out of your way to support the good shit.
reminder that only the pureblooded Nipponese are the true descendants of Amaterasu and are the only true human beings with actual souls. all gaijin are soulless automatons without divine spark.
Game piracy/cheating is serious business in Japan you go to prison for it. Pokemon Company is notorious for this shit. Guys but behind bars for distributing hacked Pokemon.
>>739680650>i love Japan!>b-but not like thisLel
bro just go to exhentai torrent any tankoubon that is freshly released and see the ips, all japanese.they love to pirate, nyaa is used heavily by them, they claim is chinese using vpn but that's a fucking lie, chinks got their own forums where they upload anime, cihkns are really autistic when it comes to releases like they upload entire blurays that are 300gb in size.
>>739681763What about the Yamato/Jumon dichotomy?
Reminder that Japan never even allowed video game rentals due to their piracy laws. Their video game landscape was vastly different to the west where we all got to go to Blockbuster and get our games for decades, so their mindset is completely different. I think it's a bit relaxed now but for a Japanese person if you have a game and you don't actually own it by purchasing it from a company you're doing something wrong/illegal.
>>739681493To be honest, yes. Piracy turned me into a second hand consumerist.
>>739680650What the fuck is the dumb gook saying? I often seed torrents for my JPbros.
>>739680650I genuinely think it's a psyop to ruin Japans public perception in a concentrated effort to stamp out nerd culture along with the enshittification of movies and games, sudden rise in Korea and Chinas cultural footprints aping anime and idol culture, etc and estrogen running through the community like crack in the 80s
>>739682069japs even had autistic meltdowns over westerners wanting to bundle first-party games to help sell new console hardware instead of selling them individually.
>akiba is a gentrified tourist trap>comiket is nothing but korean gacha girl game fanart for whales
>>739682168Those people are all risking jail time.
>>739680650>Are the majority of japs really that retarded when it comes to piracy or it just some twitter moment?I'd argue that the pirates of nowadays are the biggest retards since piracy turned into some kind of political-social movement where they need to broadcast everywhere on the Internet they're downloading. That kind of behavior fucked over many download websites as well as the emulation scene (especially the Switch 1).Also this hate on media companies (and throw individual creators under the bus too as the guy in the OP's pic pointed out) is beyond retarded. It's one thing to not wanting to buy something because you want it for free, or simply not doing business with certain corporations because you could disagree with some of their practices (like some intrusive protective system or whatever), but they need to stop this audacity of believing they're in the "right side of history" that lead them to act retarded on the Internet.
>>739682168>download old vn iso torrent>3 jap ips stuck at 98%>search around the internet for another download>luckily find it in some old as fuck hentai-sharing post with 1 no paid link still working.>download it>add, recheck>seed the last remaining 2%good luck lil nip.
>>739680650Twitter moment. The people who pirate in Japan naturally lay low and remain anonymous, or they virtue signal to save face while pirating in secret.
>meta and ai companies literally pirate everything to train their AI>corpos and government don't care in the slightestimagine thinking that copyright law has any legitimacy left in current year.
>Doujin author makes AND SELLS a comic book where video game heroine is anally raped by tentacles after she grows a 5 foot long cock and then gets mindbroken into becoming a filthy slut that get gangbanged by disgusting old men for the rest of her lifeJapan: This is fine>Westerner reverse engineers video game heroine's discontinued/EoS gacha game to make it available for people to play again FOR FREEJapan: NOOOO!!! THIS IS DISRESPECTING THE AUTHOR'S VISION!! THIS GUY NEEDS TO GO TO PRISON FOR ONE HUNDRED YEARS!!! ????
>>739683265Doujin books don't make a profit (since everything from printing is from the author's pockets) + the Japanese entertainment industry is also aware that a good chunk of their professional artists started in the doujin scene so they're not gonna bother with copyright strikes.Meanwhile you, the gaijin; are not entitled to reverse-engineer an old gacha game from Japan without prior authorization from the company. In fact, that goes against the EULA in virtually all videogames.
>>739683810if it's on my phone is mine now.Companies gave up their right when they agreed to install.
>>739683810oh no not the EULA
Japs pirate so fucking much they literally compete with the entire western sphere of piracyFuck off outta here nigger trannies
>>739683981>>739684021Yes, the thing that you've never read but have agreed in order to use the game. And as far as fan creations like fanarts go, they were never something forbidden by companies. They just simply state you don't own the IP and characters (which is obvious).The idea that anon is comparing the doujin scene (which is culturing the growth of future artists for the professional field in Japan) with the reverse-engineering from westerners of a discountinued gacha game (where the users related to this project or the drama over piracy are literally parasites) is rather astounding
>>739681664>>739681808>>739681919>>739682069>>739682823>>739683012>>739683810You're not Japanese. You're just a retarded third worlder or worse, an indian.
>>739683810They would not do it if it did not make profit.
There's a fair number old old Jap Boomers who refuse to port their games to anything besides Playstation's newest console claiming PC is "nothing but pirates" but that's just smoke to cover how they're eternally buttdevastated blowout towards PC courtesy of Bill Gates traumatizing Japan by how Micro$oft assfucked Japan's native Personal Computing scene back in the day.
>>739683810>doujins and hentai are okay even though they use copyrighted characters because everybody does it >fangames are not because REEEEEEEEEEEEEAtleast recognize your retarded double standards>the Japanese entertainment industry is also aware that a good chunk of their professional artists started in the doujin scene so they're not gonna bother with copyright strikes.I dont care how you justify your retarded double standards. Stealing is stealing, so condemn it if you actually believe that corporate fed tripe
>>739684305it's mine now,INTERNET PACKETS ARE NOT TAKEN THEY ARE SEND.
>>739680650is some twitter shit and you should go back and stay there you retarded faggot
>>739680650Japs are okay with piracy if you look who's leeching on nyaa it's like 70% japs. They just want you to keep it on the down low, like honne vs tatemae. Tatemae is what holds their society together, if they all said what they really think to each other they'd be back in the sengoku period again.
>>739684481>They would not do it if it did not make profit.I know this is a foreign concept to modern gaijins (and especially third-worlders) but people can create things out of passion and that's literally the main reason that the doujin scene still exists to this day.A doujin work *might* generate a slight bit of profit if an artist is lucky (or renowned) enough to sell all the printed copies but they do have to eat the entire costs related to printing unlike when going through a publishing house.
>>739680650The jap is correct. Dumb third world browns are annoyingly loud and should not be on the internet.
>>739682745>That fucking swimming pool
>>739684305>which is culturing the growth of future artists for the professional field in Japan>where the users related to this project or the drama over piracy are literally parasiteslmao how do you put up with that much cognitive dissonance. And on that note, the gacha is discontinued (your own words), which means it's not making any money, and not raking any profit, therefore doeant huet anybody. Meanwhile the most common doujins are almost always porn of the hottest, most popular females from the hottest fotm game and anime. Doujin artists are literal parasites that make a living by drawing porn of characters from fotm media.
Another soiteen anti JP threadAlso it's really funny to see people think japan doesn't do fan games and people who think doujin means porn
>let's all make nothing but doujins of the same korean gacha slutsjapan has fallen.
>>739684604>Atleast recognize your retarded double standardsWhere are the double standards? Fangames in Japan like the Touhou ones which can blatantly copy the mechanics of certain titles (I still remember the Limbo one for instance) get on fine but they're actually available for free.The "fangames" that get struck down in the West were most often begging to donate through Paypal and else.
The lady doth protest too much.
>>739684305>>739684724 (i know it's you, faggot)>which is culturing the growth of future artists for the professional field in Japan>but they do have to eat the entire costs related to printing unlike when going through a publishing house.The doujin scene is an fun hobby, it's not an "serious" job unlike many professional manga/anime fields. Since you CAN take one's IP and sell it for a quick buck, hence the "derivative works". Regardless of your retarded excuses, the idea by itself is already calls for a copyright lawsuit.>with the reverse-engineering from westerners of a discountinued gacha game (where the users related to this project or the drama over piracy are literally parasites)If the service is already down then the EULA is already considered moot since the game is discontinued for good.
>>739684724>comiket is run off pure passionNot even the most delusional weeaboo believes this. Retarded larper
>>739681659You have winter room temperature IQ
>>739683810>Doujin books don't make a profit (since everything from printing is from the author's pockets)Ahahaha what the hell, they print it for $5~10 each and sell it for $20 how there's no profit?
>WHY CANT I PIRATE!!!>JAPON ES CAGADA WEY!!!>PINCHE TOBY FOXpeople who are seething over this are thirdies that weren't to buy the product anyways
>>739684892>Also it's really funny to see people think japan doesn't do fan gamesYou're never become a nintendo lawyer>and people who think doujin means pornIt fucking begins with some r18 vn, try again.
>>739680650They are the future. They eat the bugs and live in the box. Don't think they're based just because they're racist.
Japan is a lot like Italy in that all the real Japanese people left the country. Italians went to the United States, while the Japanese went to Brazil.
>>739680650what is up with bug people and their obsession with saving face
>>739684981>fangames in japan are actually available for free>fangames in the west are also available for free >but I have to say they're bad >so they're bad because they ask for donations or something>and I'll ig ore the fact that nip fangames are literally sold on a market made exclusively to sell them Kek. No double standards here!
>>739684981Now your drinking the piss
>>739684724I didn't read any of this. Nothing you wrote would make me wrong. I said a fact. I'm sorry you have trouble accepting it.
>>739681493> they buylolfhghggfh
>>739680650Japanese people have IQ high enough to not post about any crimes they commit using easily backtraceable social media, it's a Japanese concept called 人並み知能指数
>>739684393>acknowledge someone pushing back against american enshitification of their culture>>You're not JapaneseYeah, no one here is Japanese. We all know this, so what's your point?
>>739680650Japs pirate like a motherfuckers.There alot of jap flags in peer tab in my client.Tbh i prolly see more japs than jeets.From my observation most numerous are muricans, chinese and canadians. Then powergap, then russians, then powergap then everyone else. ps jews and greeks pirate like a crazy too.
>>739685295>downloading some meme song for free is enshitification Good to know, jeet
>>739685289It's an American concept too called "not being a dumb nigger" that somehow blacks and trannies (both with 11/10 egos) cannot seem to do
>>739680650It's zoomsr thing.Literally just play and shut the fuck up. It isn't complicated.
>>739685056This is the perfect case in point post>doujinshi refers to [self published] manga, comics, games, magazines........many are [fan made] and [use characters from existing anime, manga, or video games]Soiteens, not even once
>>739685612faggot millennials on this very board are the ones who cultivated the "proud pirate" attitude
And to prove it even harder, DLsite has an entire section dedicated to all ages doujinshi
>>739680650All I'm reading from that nip is "I like bending over and getting fucked up my ass".
>>739680650>Are the majority of japs really that retardedyes
>>739685713Posting here isn't posting on twitter to the company who's shit you are pirating
>>739685624>copy paste from wikipediago back
>>739685790where do you think the retards posting on twitter came from? who do you think they were influenced by? reminder that /v/ was ground zero for literally all internet culture from 2006 to 2016.
>>739680650>japan is a capitalist shithole full of brainwashed thrallsmore news at 11
>pirates are niggerswhere is the lie? japan is right about them.
>>739685364Are you illiterate? The guy even acknowledged why people pirate
>>739685850See>>739685728 which already beat you to your retarded cop out
>>739682069Japs have a weird relationship with media, authorship and ownership in general. West always had the stupid EULAs for games/software but they were always unenforceable and nobody actually believes it anyway. Japs actually take that seriously and also believe into some sort of far reaching authorial authority where if author disavowed his novel japs would feel compelled to burn their own copies to comply with his wishes.
>>739685762hag but she has nice tits so a nice change of pace wouldn't hurt
>>739684753This post got me to finish the webm and I lol'd
>>739685973Just because it exists it doesn't disprove my statement on the origin of doujin culture.Also again>wikipediakill yourself
>>739685762name of this hag?
>>739680650Its a twitter moment, the nips will pirate just as much as any other country. Doujin culture is its own little bubble where people go and buy doujins of their favorite artists. Its essentially just modern patronage and the artists getting exposure sometimes move on to big gigs. You're crazy if you don't think japs are pirating old games that are hard to come buy, like older fighting games, pirating music, or going to their nip only show/movie pirate sites. As with nearly all modern arguments, Twitter makes the problem seem bigger than it actually is as 3 guys somehow trick everyone into believing its true.
>>739681493>what is the "buy" thing you speak of?
>>739680650based jap dabbing on the brown thirdworlder
>>739685930>Make a site for people who don't want to pay for things>Get a population of users who do not want to pay for things>Ask them to pay for things>Be shocked when they do not want to pay for thingsBoggles the noggin.
>>739684680Honestly based. Western pirates could learn from this. Instead every retarded 14 year old that finds out you can download nintendo games immediately goes to tiktok to brag about it, causing those sites to get shut down.
>>739686220Older otaku (think ones in the 00s) pirate a lot too. The difference is they just don't talk about it unlike some faggot on xitter showing off
>>739686114It does though and doubling down because you're a retard doesn't prove anything other than you're a retard
>>739680650Valve drones are fucking bootlickers.
>>739685295crawling off into dekiru cope won't help you, that enshittification is influencing the original writers at this point, your hard won japanese knowledge will be expended on lolcowliser tier slop, japanese
>>739686475I know that it's too late for the Japanese at this point. But that doesn't mean I can't appreciate someone still trying.>cope>lolcow>slopwhy do you type like a fag
>>739686220Even IRL you'll see japs doing trashy cheapskate behaviours. They'll hog shelves at a bookstore reading entire volume after volume and leave without buying anything.
>>739686220It's just a matter of preserving face, innit? Pirating is popular, but you can't go and admit that you do the boo-boo illegal thing to your community, and Twitter idiots will make sure the foreigners, too, know exactly how the hammer beats down on the sticking-out nail.The "discourse" is funny, but personally I'm still a bit perplexed by the variety of viewpoints that seems to arise from doujin culture specifically. You'd think that any artist that's sharing their work in some way wants nothing more than sharing it with as many people as they can, especially if the subject matter is someone else's property (so they can't be expecting great profit out of it either). But doujinshi somehow inhabits this weird limbo where people will just do whatever seemingly contradictory shit, including hating on resellers/Internet uploaders. Just make it more available if those piss you off, eh?
>>739686869I suppose jap doujinshi culture is sort of like modding scene (incidentally effectively illegal in japan for other reasons) in a way. Companies tolerate it and the donate to my patreon shit even though it probably technically infringes the original IP and also likely a bunch of others, but try to fork or reupload it and they'll reeeee incessantly and order their tranny friends at nexus to ban you, flame out and nuke everything.
>>739685612>>Literally just play and shut the fuck up.this is too much for some autists, everything has to be a big performance to them
Perfect Dark
The nips are chief amongst bootlickers. Drone people of the highest order.
>>739680650>"muh gaijin pig piratu i put a noroi on your family!">largest anime pirates are jap ip'sThey literally never recovered from that. >"um it's actually gaijin pigs using jap vpn's to pirate anime not us"Sure thing, Takeshi.
Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGM8PT1eAvY
>muh respect for the creator>sends them death threats when they don't create what and how they wantAlso pretending piracy doesn't exist doesn't actually make it a secret nobody but pirates know about. "hurrr just don't talk about it!!!!" doesn't work. I guess their delusional dogmatic asses don't understand that.
>>739680650That's literally the most milquetoast Japanese take on the matter yet you're still complaining This has to be bait
>>739680650Declaring you pirate is done almost entirely to troll. Whether or not I actually did it doesn't matter; I made it loud and clear because I am explicitly disrespecting you and/or the developers.Japs pirate shit no less than other kinds of people, I surmise they simply react more strongly to trolling and disrespect.
>>739685930Lovely idea, but hosting 390TB of shit and distributing via direct download was always going to be a financial disaster.It should have taken a mixture of the largest and most popular files and made them torrent only, with a system to track anything that got downloaded a lot and move it to torrent only. This would have shedded like 95% of the bandwidth cost overnight and easily saved the site from the paid scam emulator bots that scraped it every day.
How would YOU feel if some self-important foreigners pirated your country's culture?
>>739689798they already do, i dont care, i even encourage it
>>739689798Honored. Culture is for sharing and appreciating, not hoarding.
>>739690189>>739689882Cuck mentality.
>>739681493what they said are true, its so fucking cringe asf when kids these days openly admit doing this doing that like I wish I could punch them in the face. they're the reason why piracy today were still hanging on its final death bed. back in my days you keep your mouth shut like zip it, admiring from a far of our 'hero' like razor1911
>>739690238I dont believe the games I worked on, even if small or indie, should cost 20+ dollars with DRM
>>739690238>appreciation is cuckoldryBut not when Tyrone does to your wife?
>>739680650Just frame it as NTR and they'll lap it up. Japs and gooks love that shit more than anything else.
Nobody:Poster 739690356: "but what about black penises??"
>>739690292>they're the reason why piracy today were still hanging on its final death bedMore like children being loud and proud is how you faggots seethe in the first place, nice try nip
>>739690438>le youtube comedy>too much of an pussy to even quote at meyou lost
>>739680650Twitter moment. They USED to have a lot of anti-piracy, but years of exploitation at their corpo overlords' hands changed that outlook.
>>739680650>paying for mangalol>paying for doujinlmao even
>>739680650It's some weird shit to do with asian autism and their honor culture that has resulted in the most fervent fanboys to ever exist.
>>739684305EULAs are invalid if their game is dead, kiddo. SE can't enforce it anymore, and unlike Kusotendo, they're unwilling to kill that emulator and risk further damage to their overseas rep. They know they screwed up in not allowing Yoko to make more Nier games.
>>739682823You really went there. We all risk jailtime in Pakistan and the UK for speaking out our minds, to be honest.
>>739685762No wonder Japanese women prefer White men
>>739686156Sora Shiina
>>739681448>We may have lost the waru>but our BULLSHIDO SPIRITU RIVES ARN
I'm not fully morally against piracy but I do think that people should try and support the things they genuinely do like. If you like something and you want it to continue to exist then somebody has to support it. It's not always some big greedy corporation making the games or whatever.
>>739691086>UKGod I hope Rupert wins the election desu
>>739680650It's not just the piracy. It's being flagrant about it.eg. Rules 1 and 2 motherfucker.
>>739681448>>739681493Keep in mind that higher levels of this are making money off of pirating shit. It's one thing to pirate it. It's another thing to broadcast it. It's another thing to openly profitteer from it.
>>739680650>/v/ when localizers change a word of a japanese game: "SO DISRESPECTFUL TO THEIR CULTURE, BAN LOCALIZERS AND FUCK TRANNYLATORS">/v/ when told to follow a japanese custom by japanese people: "Fuck you slant-eyed jap, get over it! I will break it more now!"
>>739691865They have the audacity to complain about migrants being parasites when they are unashamed of stealing shit themselves.
>japanese have autistic levels of worship for the rule of law and religious adherence to social norms>half of their writing, art and animation is about "HOLY FUCK I JUST WANT TO BE MYSELF AND DO WHAT I WANT TO DO">defend the stifling parts of their culture at every opportunity anywaythey are a strange peopleIsekai stuff isn't just a popular power fantasy in japan because of the MCs' fighting strength, they also constantly spit in the face of leaders, the law, an oppressive local culture, corrupt institutions, etc. They clearly have similar desires as westerners when it comes to ruling your own life and doing whatever you want to do (with the strength to back it up) but when it comes to expressing that in real life, they just won't do it. I think it just comes down to desiring comfort over freedom.
>>739684753>he didn't recognise the Czech porn truckI'm disappoint
>>739692542Most of jap media still ends up with the rebelious protagonists overthrowing the corrupt leaders, taking their place and making no reform because now that "good" people are in charge everything is going to be fine forever, structural issues not real, no need to worry about their successors.
>>739680650>In Japanese doujin culture, respect for the creator is highly valuedIf you truly "valued creators", you'd take corporate dick up the ass and pay the $6 gorillion dollar licensing fee to get your comic officially licensed and approved, and you wouldn't make any porn or other things corporations hate, you shameless yellow culture thievesThe reality is anyone with a brain knows that copyright is cancer and that corporations ought to burn for being turbo kikes that snatch up rights for pennies and then shit on authors' legacies by ruining them with endless remakes and half-assed sequels, and then try their damndest to take down the good old stuff so people have no choice but to consume the newest slop because copyright terms last a gorillion years (originally started at 14)
>>739692081>yes goy respecting creators means not reading their old worksretarded corporate ape. the best thing an author can hope for is to be read and celebratedif today's copyright terms had been active in disney's time, his movies would have been illegal
>>739685176lot of sansei and yonsei happas are stil pretty traditional, liberdade turned into a fucking shithole, though
>>739680650>Are the majority of japs really that retarded when it comes to piracy or it just some twitter moment?They have different rules to follow and understand.
>>739693345>the japanese have MY cultural values and perspective, fuck them if they say otherwise because it doesn't personally benefit me!
>>739693082there are some exceptions
>>739693760you can't tell me you're human and defend a system that makes works unavailable until everyone who was alive when they released is dead and buriedworst of all, unlike books, software won't run on machines 90 years in the future, so they'll be unusable when they enter the public domain
>>739682824The piracy/cracking scene was always somewhat about "clout".The big difference is now instead of that reputation being entirely among their compatriots on whatever forums/groups they were in, now there’s retards broadcasting it on xitter for all the world to see.
>>739693769Simon actually agrees with anti-spiral arguments about the spiral power going out of control (it's been so long since I watched I don't remember exactly what the issue was) as evidenced by him not bringing Nią and Kamiya back to lifeThe only thing that changed was the approach but at the end of the day AS, Nia's dad whose name I forgot and Simon's legacy were all shaped around limiting spiral potential for their own good
>>739692214>They have the audacity to complain about migrants being parasites Which they are
>>739693957The clout came from the skill involved in cracking though and genuine undercurrent of anarchist ideology. You did it just because you could and got recognition for that, not just because you wanted free shit. It's a bit different form being proud you can find a torrent and think everyone else is just too dumb to figure out what piratebay is.
>>739684753Japan has good memes
>>739694248>I don't remember exactlyNo shit. The whole point was that the oppression of the Spiral races "for their own good" was cruel and retarded so they massacred the Anti-Spiral. That said the warriors who accomplished that had the maturity to realize they have no idea how to govern in times of peace (which was demonstrated in the second part of the show) and how to actually solve the Spiral Nemesis issue, so they liberated everyone from the Anti-Spiral and entrusted them and the new generations to find a solution to the problem. Them deciding to limit their own spiral potential was their own choice but they didn't force others into that, which was what the Anti-Spirals were doing.
Japs are retarded. Is this news to anyone?
>>739683810>Meanwhile you, the gaijin; are not entitled to reverse-engineer an old gacha game from Japan without prior authorization from the company.Correct. Put your shit on Steam.
>>739694719I wonder how the rest of the penthouse looks like
>>739694719isn't the water in that pool more toxic than a mouldy sandwich?
>4chan learned about Izzat or whatever, accepted it and learned how the Indian behaves around it>4chan still can't get Honne and TatemaeIt isn't a "twitter" moment anon, it's yet another country wide social construct that you have to decipher. They can't openly say in social networks that piracy is actually a normal thing in their country and that they too engage in it on various fields that aren't just games. Motherfuckers forget that Manga piracy was about some dudes that worked in Manga deposits or related and risked their life being buried under tons of books to sneak a copy of the magazine early to scan and post online. Or that TV raws for anime before streaming services were a thing happened because some niggers left their recorders on and uploaded shit after work. Those are just some examples. Different individuals through this crashout have typed in a way that is subtle to indicate that what is observed as a problem is openly admiting to engaging in piracy, meanwhile the worst most racist japanese (which are still a lot understandably so) go to the extremes of word raping people in social network fronts (japanese or not) for saying posititve things about piracy.One that struck was how some brazillian dude wrote a long text about piracy, its social impact and so on in his country while using One Piece imagery that most japanese should be understanding about and one of the earlier replies and that got most retweets was being called a cockroach.
>>739681659Microsoft gave up btw
>>739681919>I love JapanIf anyone not actually living there and isn't actually Japanese says this beyond the age of like 12 they are the biggest fucking faggots to ever exist, honestly.
>>739694982>internet japanese culture is reflective to the society!!!Try talking to me again without vomiting /pol/shit, okay?
One day there was nothing at all, the next day we suddenly started getting around-the clock anti-Japan propaganda threads.This is, of course, totally organic.
>>739694720Simon was still leading by example at the end when he chose to let Nia die>The whole point was that the oppression of the Spiral races "for their own good" was cruel and retardedOnly because he trusts people enough to believe they won't fuck themselves over if left unchecked. Not because limiting themselves was retarded, he clearly agrees with that>they, they, them, themIt's only Simon that fucks off, Viral is shown taking over his role as the military leader at the end while Rossiu takes over as the political one
>>739694982>It isn't a "twitter" moment anon, it's yet another country wide social construct that you have to decipherit's notthing arcane. pic related sums up the phenomenon succinctly
The only issue is assholes being obnoxious about their assholery. It's not rocket science, you wastes of DNA.
>>739695385i've been hating elevens and their shit taste for years
>>739680650Yeah, it's a twitter moment. Japs have been pirating and modding games for decades.
>>739695385most people probably grew up and realized worship of foreigners because they make animated porn is pretty fucking retarded and gay, nowadays only jeets and hispanics worship japs
>>739680650Sounds like they're more angry at the peoples' DISPLAY of freedom. like they're more pissed off at people OPENLY PARADING THEIR FREEDOM OF CHOICE TO PIRATE rather than the act of piracy itself. It's like a fox and grapes situation isn't it? You're angry at what you can't have?
>>739680650japs are retarded, period
>>739680650Twitter moment. Share and Winny had and still have millions of pirated animes, mangas, video games and hentai works.
>Japs proudly parade that they will not translate or release their work abroad because gaijin acted dishonorabru (e.g. by modding a game or criticizing it)>gaijin proudly parade that they will pirate the product thenIt can't be helped.
>>739695385>One day there was nothing at all, the next day we suddenly started getting around-the clock anti-India propaganda threads.>This is, of course, totally organicSee how retarded you sound? There was no reason to care about jeets or japs before so no one didJaps brought it on themselves, the amount of loli artists that were banned from twitter yet refused to change platforms is insane, now xitter (formerly twitter) has a translation good enough to expose them to the western world they're completely incompatible with so everyone there shits on themJust stop using western social media, stay on fucking pixiv and 2chan or whatever you have for twitter and all this "inorganic" "anti-japan" rhetoric will return to it's pre-covid levels of normalcattle getting the ick from anime and trying to remove all fanservice (according to you that was still organic)
>>739681763Uh-huh, cool. Get sarin gassed again
>>739695517It's not arcane at all, as you said. But anon refuses to understand it. You can actually weaponize it too, like with Izzat.
>>739680650Whitoids think they're civilized and then they think the Japanese are retarded for not wanting piracy. There's a reason why Japan is a high trust society and theirs is not.
if japs have such a high standard when it comes to stealing shit then surely they're just as disgusted around ai.Haha no they don't. Hypocrites all of them, especially coming from the boomers who were kids or adult during the bubble.
>>739696291The only wrong sentiment was the >suddenlyAnnoyance turning into contrarianism is common behavior. What changed is going mainstream, now normals are in the mix and shit's getting genuinely racist.
>>739684918They like school settings. Always have, always will.
>>739681763>image of a sumo wrestler>a sport so dominated by Mongolians to the point there hadn't been a Japanese yokozuna in like 15 years until last year
>>739697598>twatter screencapthis board is dead
>>739682745To be fair, nip gacha sucks.Only remotely relevant ones are ancient at this point.
>>739680650>IF I CAN'T BUY IT THEN I AM MORALLY ALLOWED TO PIRATEI don't get these people. I truly don't.If you want to pirate, just pirate, why do you need to come up with excuses to justify your actions? Why do you need to declare to everyone else your acts are "justified"?
dont carestill pirating
>>739697997Why should I be ashamed of it?Software regulations changed lately, true, but where I live it's still perfectly legal to download media for personal use. So me downloading anime cannot even be called piracy, objectively speaking.Should I sit down and be quiet because a Japanese person from across the globe might be offended by my actual rights? No, fuck him.
>>739684393>reading comprehension
>>739683810>Doujin books don't make a profit wrong in the digital age. everyone has patreon/skeb/melonbooks/dlsite now
>"We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem," he said. "If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable."
This won't turn me against the japanese, and they are also right, most pirates are extremely entitled shitskins that weren't going to buy the product anyway.
>>739698504>there are people within a group who do a thing I don't like therefore this other thing is wrongsasuga retard frogposter
>>739696551literally some of the big antipiracy tweets i saw were from AI guys lmao. level5 bitches about piracy while using AI
>>739698275Do you go around spouting retarded shit like "just make it available to buy otherwise I'll pirate it" or "if buying isn't owning then piracy isn't stealing"? Acting like you're morally justified in pirating shit is just like niggers bragging about how much money they steal.
>>739695770yeah nah that hair belongs to a Japanese man lol
>>739697598The Japanese don't actually give a crap about "muh respect to the creators" or whatever. They only care about the "law". You could write into law that foreigners are allowed to rape them in the ass and they would only complain if you did them without a condom.
>>739695385There's one weird guy that's been posting anti-japanese stuff on /a/ and here for at elast a year. He got folders full of images, he's the "japan has gone woke" poster. Absolutely looney-behaviour.
>>739697598PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAPGET EXTORTEDGET EXTORTED
>>739680650Unironically based. I don't give a shit about pirating in general, but piratefags are obnoxious cunts that pretend that they're doing a moral good for pirating and larp about "muh game preservation" instead of stating the obvious fact that they just want free shit. Even furfags aren't this demented.
>>739680650Proudly announcing you're a piratetranny is brown behavior and shouldn't be tolerated, he's right in that regard.Japanese companies are partially responsible for the current status quo though, they could just offer their shit to overseas customers like any normal business. Most of that stuff can be sold digitally, there's no excuse.
>>739699016Bikini schizo posts here too.
>>739684724>t. FakkuI'm sorry I didn't pay for this doujin that was made solely for passion
>old game prices not raped by scalpers>can ride the train to go to used shops and arcades>more physical media in general means stronger used market>manga costs pennies>anime airs on TV>can buy music, including game music, on CDs still>no import costs for domestic products, obviously>no language barrier>western shit sucks now so no reason to obsess over foreign stuffBe honest, if you were a jap, why WOULD you want to pirate?
>>739682823More reason to help those brave warriors of nippon
>>739682450This is why Sonic isn't big in Japan btw. Overseas, bundles guaranteed every kid buying a Sega bought Sonic. In Japan, not so much
>>739680650japan is right, westoids that "pay" with exposure are useless to the industry
>>739698918>you're morally justified in pirating shitI am.>just like niggers bragging about how much money they steal.Piracy =/= Stealing. We've been through this.
>>739698484he said that and acted on it piracy never stopped. Was he wrong?
>>739699230>old game prices not raped by scalpersThis is not true though, they ARE raped by scalpers even locally depending on the game
>>739680650>*reclines*
>>739680650Last I remember, nips actually face prison time for pirating shit. The ones that do it probably don't talk about it. On the flip side some nips are weirdly gung ho about anti piracy.
>>739699840He didn't need to "kill" piracy, just stop it from draining half of the industry's revenue.
>>739699821cool, piracy is videogame addiction crackhead behavior and still illegal and nothing will change that
DING DING DING DING FREE MOVIES, GET YOUR FREE MOVIES ON NICONICO, JAPAN IS VERY VERY SERIOUS ABOUT PIRACYhttps://www.nicovideo.jp/search/%E6%98%A0%E7%94%BBpart1
>>739700198but he is a nigger, and his skin color gives him the justification needed
>>739696438If you want to embarrass yourself even further with your /pol/ fanfiction then go for it lol>>739699481It's because the Megadrive had such dogshit marketing that not even Nintendo with their Virtual Sore could beat this. Nice try, autistic retard.
>>739700085>nips actually face prison time for pirating shitAckhually it was for selling their copies without the license ims
>>739700184that's not what he said though?
>>739700234kek based pirate bro ANNIHILATING every single nigger faggots browsing this thread
I like how the #1 defense against piracy is simply "it's against le law," as if that isn't the most circular bullshit ever. Don't forget the second defense - that being, "but le creators worked so HARD on it!!!1" But why should I care? A businessman isn't entitled to profit off of a bad business proposition; it's like selling apples in an era where Star Trek replicators exist and expecting consumers to keep buying apples from you rather than just buying a single apple and cloning it repeatedly at zero cost. Similarly, if you sell a piece of digital software that can be cloned and distributed infinitely once it is downloaded onto the consumer's PC, it's entirely your fault if it gets pirated. Boo hoo.
>>739697997>>739698918>>739700198>>739700385Your corpo is shit, either fight them or die.
>>739700839>trekkie>retardedEvery time
>>739700954>seethe by GOD TREKlmao
Remember that tatemae is why 2channel exists which is why 4chan exists. Anonymous imageboards were made so japanese could actually be honest without losing izzat.
>>739700234There isn't a single that reaches the hundredth views mark? Great argument.
>>739700796lmao you didn't even see all the disney, paramount, DC, and marvel videos that were taken down and you're gloating. These are what's left after gatekeeping and keeping your mouth shut about piracy which is something nu-pirates are inept with
>>739700954Concession super-duper accepted. Come unplug my ethernet cable if you want me to stop downloading nintendo roms at 100 trillion gigabit speeds kek
>>739701106My nigga, even sending parts is considered copyright infrigement by default.
>>739700839>"but le creators worked so HARD on it!!!1" But why should I care?If you actually liked the thing that you pirated, you should want the creators to get paid so that they can hopefully continue making more things you like. I don't mind the idea of "trying before you buy" but only you know what you really enjoy and is worth supporting for you. Of course, it is essentially "voting with your wallet" since even if you do support the things you do like, similar things might not get made if it didn't sell enough.
>>739701235okay? those were taken down too. They had ironman divided in 12 parts and it was taken down
>>739701089万 means ten-thousand. So 3.2万 means 32000 views. Also the site is owned by Kadokawa and offers paid anime streaming on the same site so they probably ought to care more about piracy... especially including their own stuff, like Haruhi in english which has been up for 20 fucking years LMFAO https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2069673
>>739700839Japs have tunnel vision when it comes to law and simping for businesses - just look at Nintendo simps.They fail to recognize the fact that even if fans pirate some title that was JP-only to begin with (seriously, so many VN boot screens have 'JP only fuck you' messages), eventually said fans either get merch or even travel to Japan in order to buy stuff and visit places featured in anime/games/novels.>but they worked hard on it!Aside from that, these fans still generate buzz around the properties, and it does end up helping the authors. Just look at 999, japs didn't give a fuck about it but it was very successful in the West even if many pirated it on an R4. Thanks to that we got Virtue's Last Reward and ZTD I guess. Uchikoshi worked hard on that and Japs certainly didn't show much appreciation for the work.The way their society works is a double edged sword. Lots of politeness and die-hard sticking to the rules but sadly that also applies to following retarded corpo decisions. When a company tells a jap to jump, they'll do it without even asking 'how high?'
>>739696291Japanese Twitter is just as bad as the rest of them. I remember one Vocaloid artist getting bullied by their retarded fanbase over "plagiarism" thanks to some cover being similar to some stock image kek>>739701416>those were taken down tooNo they didn't you stinky poo
>I can force my ideas about culture onto you but you can't do it to me whaaaa>you HAVE to follow my rules!why do the Japanese feel entitled to the control of culture on the Internet?though that may have to do with Japan always having a high quality Japanese internet ecosystem, leaving them in an echo chamber that coddled them and insulated them from the global internet at large
>>739680650I don’t care what those radioactive brained pedophiles think.
>>739681448This. They just do it in private. This applies to all of Japanese society. They respect others but still do the same shit when no one is looking. Two-faced. Avoid confrontation at all costs.Works out well though as their society is very orderly unlike most countries.
>>739680650no its mainly the loud and vocal moralfagging japs on Xitter, like all xitter users
>>739682168this i see nihhon flags very often
>>739693076i dont really watch porn, and i thought it was their typical Jap "magic mirror" truck porn
>>739701596>all the DC and marvel movies are missing>pacific rim gone>legendary godzilla movies nowhere to be found>all the listings literally have video deleted on them>n-no they didn'tnu-pirates are so stupid
looking at that high IQ Japanese trying to teach manners to that gaijin is like watching Patterson trying to teach language to Koko.
>>739695770You can fit like another 5 manlet there, why is he complaining
>>739702001considering that the average anti japanese user and pirate is a brownoid, makes sense
>>739683810>not entitledwell i can reverse engineer it and distribute for free so yes I am entitled to it
>>739701787But the fact that it's louder than your average SJW is funny. I might be due to how they aren't really afraid of saying something regardless if it's unhinged.I heard that some Japanese Ice Cream men was secretly promoting IJN propaganda to children. I'll hear from this board that Japs gets arrested over "piracy", but if you actually check them for a fucking second, then you're realise that they're more insane than "orderly".>>739702000works on my machine
>>739701365>If you actually liked the thing that you pirated, you should want the creators to get paid so that they can hopefully continue making more things you like.Sure, but that excludes morality from the discussion, and shifts it towards pragmatism and mutual benefit. I'm specifically addressing the folks who think piracy is morally unjustifiable, which I vehemently disagree with because intellectual property is gay, retarded, and unable to be enforced whatsoever.
>>739702001>>739702064Ah yes, being a corporate shill is 100% chad and aryan, amirite?
>>739702198yes? Being broke was never a good look
>>739680650Japan evolved separately from the rest of the world which caused many of these cultural differences.The majority of the world for 10,000's of years operated without the concept of copyright, which is how human culture spread and how technology. art and entertainment progressed.Example, the story of jack and the giant bean stalk is actually one of the oldest stories ever recorded, and versions of it have been discovered in nearly every part of the world where people traveled, this story was an integral piece of history showcasing humanity leaving the tribal hunter gathering lifestyle and the adoption of agricultural civilization.Jomon immigrants from surrounding asia countries and the physical land bridges that connected the islands together is what founded the basis of Japan.After the collapse of these physical land bridges, they remained completely isolated for 1000's of years in their own cultural bubble.This caused Japan to not evolve and develop in tandem with the other cultures of the world, until Chinese and Korean shiptravel brought new immigrants onto the shores of Japan in the early A.D. period.From there, Japanese culture developed as an offshoot of very specific and localized Chinese and Korean culture, without interacting with the greater culture of the world.Eventually, Japan shut down their physical borders around the country at accessible ports until the 1500's, when Europeans aboard a Chinese ship on the shipwreck at Tanegashima made an very big impression on the young 16 year old lord Tanegashima Tokitaka, becoming fascinated with completely foreign tech and culture(essentially, the first recorded Westaboo).From there, Japanese culture when through periods of obsession and rejection of gaijin culture and technology, until we finally see the complete localization of western values during the Meiji period in the late 1800's.This history of Japan is exactly why Japan has completely different values from the rest of the world.
makes me wonder if the schizo from pic related is behind all those posts
>>739683012So wholesome...
>yfw when zoomers have never seen this warning on a video in their lifeAlso japan lives right next to china which is known for making knockoffs so there's a reason why they hate piracy
>>739700198You will die for israel
>>739681493I consoom only so I can enjoy my "piracy" better
>>739702198Where in the OP is the guy being a corp shill? He doesn't even shit on pirates. His main issue is Westerners being proud pirates then claiming they are supporting the culture by pirating stuff. It's even worse in the manga sphere where Westoids who only pirate comics think they should have a say and go and harass the creators cause it's not sufficiently pozzed for their liking.
>>739702669israel hates funding asian media so why would that happen
>>739702362I saved millions from not paying any video game, takeshi
>Israel outta nowhereWhat's wrong with chinese canadians?
>>739702650The FBI doesn't even give a shit about your precious lolis so why should I care?
>>739702446Okay? What does it has to do with copyright?
>Piracy is fine just dont be a self entitled faggot about itHe said nothing wrong
I'm sick of this fantasy nippon purity bullshit, these retards pirate as much as everybody else does.
>>739703028quit self bumping the thread, zhang. you will never get the rest of the board to hate japan...
>>739703028proof?
japan is still at the end of it all a barbaric honor-based culture where your "face" is more important than your morals. they are conformist, deterred by shame rather than guilt. the idea of>we have a set of atomic moral principles and something is inherently wrong if it violates those principles, or if some calculus performed on a combination of deeds results in a negative balanceis uniquely western/abrahamic
>>739702446Effort post went on too long, continuing on-Japan, even when they localized a foreign good or culture, actually created the foundations of IP ownership and crimes for reproduction 100's of years before other countries would ever even invent the concept.Feudal Japanese lords and savvy tradesman developed an entire culture around stifling competition through clever resource control and starvation of their competition.>only certain works of art are allowed in this prefecture>recreating this kind of food from another shop is equitable to stealing and punishable by losing a hand or fingerThis kind of mentality was maintained all throughout Japan's history.Even during their Meiji period, where vast parts of Japan were modernized to resemble western counterparts, Japanese officials, tradesman and the empire represented it as a completely Japanese invention, as opposed to a collaborative inspiration.They essentially localized western culture, and called it their own in many cases.You can see this sort of mentality exist in modern day Isekai and JRPG anime, where instead of stating it is based on D&D(which got incredibly popular in Japan in the late 80's and early 90's), they instead attribute the Isekai and JRPG genre to Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy, the original works of which were completely localized versions of western TTRPG's like D&D that were popular in Japan at the time.Dark Souls as well, continuously in Japan is actually treated and considered as if it's an original work by Japanese people, despite being an admitted bad localization of western culture due to Miyazaki stating he looked at western cultural books he could not read and just invented what they say.Japan has an entire modern culture based on localization and IP theft, but they act completely as if this has never happened, that it's all transformative, and then say anything referential is actually based on other Japanese works.
>>739694971it's probably fine as long as it's properly chlorinated or salt water
>>739703108you read and watch enough animu and mango, you start hating their atrocious taste
>>739702961It went on too long, you can continue reading here >>739703298Basically, other cultures grew without copyright, Japan invented their own form of copyright back in the day, while still stealing things.Now Japanese people and creatives act as if all of it is based on other Japanese works, when it would actually fall non-compliant under the exact same copyright laws they use to protect their own works.
I agree with the nips in practice, not in theory. The moralfags are retarded niggers, but the overall activity of hiding your power level is good. I look at the peers in my torrents and a good chunk of them are japanese, but they're not out there on social media telling the world how morally just they are for pirating, they just want to watch anime and talk about anime, as it should be. I hate moralfag pirates who want to be validated for their piracy, bunch of bitch ass niggas. Just pirate your shit and shut the fuck up.
Can't get over the guy who said he owns a copy of a doujin that says "Do not distribute online, do not take photos of the cover, please recycle when you are done reading this"
>>739703394>solo leveling deserves to win!!1lollmao
>>739682745>Dark Abe saga
>>739680650>"in japanese doujin culture, respect for the creator is highly valued"this nigga cannot be serious, japs literally scan the doujins they buy minutes after and dump it on the internet for the whole world to see
>>739703196fucking nyaa you gorilla nigger
>>739703623I don't read gookslop, nigger
>>739703683uploaders being japanese or japanese text doesnt mean anything if you knew how bounties worked
>>739703674NOOOOOOOOOOOOO ITS ALL GAIJIN AND CHUUGOKUJIN AND KANKOKUJIN, NOBLE JAPANESE SPIRIT WOULD NEVER
>>739703674>japs literally scan the doujins they buy minutes after and dump it on the internet for the whole world to seethose are usually chinks though
>>739703674again, proof? This behavior is distinctly chinese and japs usually give a couple of days to weeks before doing this
>>739703748>japs don't pirate shit>they do>how>see X website>that doesn't matter!kill yourself
>>739695770tf takeshi gon do
>>739703865you understand that some chinese comiket attendee uploading from hotel wifi doesn't make them japanese right
>>739680650>many other people share the same views as you>doesn't that mean you're an NPC too?Kek, what a shitty clapback
>>739702650Regarding the chink question, there are a lot of those bugs living in Japan already, and some come specifically to conventions to buy, scan and upload to the internet all those fanworks, so makes me wonder how many of these japanese IP seen often in P2P networks are actually japanese and not chinks or other diaspora seeding that stuff.
>>739703952>no no saar it's not x it's Y!!!Not even deranged weebs are as delusional as (you)
>>739703996theyre too small of a % to flip it unless the "japan is 98% japanese" stuff is a lie and they cant tell because arr rook same
Everyone who says they are a law absolutist are lying through their teeth because I can guarantee at some point they got something for free that they shouldn't have.Not to mention it is absolute cope about "respecting creator's wishes" when there is an entire scene around finding "dead" and "lost" pieces of media globally.
>>739704071you're crying because you lost and don't know how bounties work, got it
>>739680650>youtube video about twitter dramaKill yourself.
>>739681564An amerigolem saying anyone else's government is a puppet that bends over backwards to serve them is hilarious. Keep projecting goy.
>youtube video about twitter dramaStay alive
>>739704167If you can't make an argument then either go full with it or shut your mouth. You're just making yourself more retarded.
>>739703860>>739703861you can literally see it right now on 2ch and futaba
>>739703996E-hentai's most prolific uploaders are chinks, lmao
>>739680650They're not retarded, they just have a different culture around art. He explains it in the video; they value the creators far more than they value the convenience or occasional necessity of piracy. You can call it a lot of things, but it's not "retarded," it's just a different culture's moral framework.
>>739704268literally you. You don't know how it works and just go by labels which anyone can do. Fucking retard
>>739685897What youtuber told you that, zoomie? /b/ was 100x more relevant than /v/ until about 2009.
>>739695385twitter exports white supremacy amd race hatred across the globe
>>739704301The issue is that it's very obviously hypocritical and falls under any scrutinyJapanese people benefited from "stealing IP" as they would put it, and then claiming it as their own, then get upset when others do the same
>>739704167ONIISAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN NIPPONJIN WA ZETTAI PIRACY O SHIMASEN ONIISAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
>>739704280Forgot to attach my image. Look at all those pure """japanese""" beasts.
>>739704280>>739704496E-Hentai and it's subsidiaries are art preservation, it doesn't really work for your argument
>>739695385you could say the same for all "hate" found on this website (jeets, troons, zoomers) you stupid mongoloid
>NO SAAAR WE ARE PRESERVATION BENCHOD BASTERDthe cope begins
>>739680650Can anyone please explain to me how can someone write the phrase:>in Japanese doujin culture, respect for the creators is highly valuedAnd not be full of shit?Like 99% of what I know about doujin works, specially manga, is that at their best they're fanfiction, and at their worst they're blatantly disgusting perversions of the original creator and their work, either way the complete opposite of respect. How can nihongian argue that Japan "respects IPs and Creators" when hentai of existing characters is an horrendously pervasive aspect of their media culture (not complaining though).
>>739680650>"Westerners are shameless, arrogant, and unable to understand the concept of respect.">one exchange later>"Your comments are disrespectful and rude to other cultures! How dare you!"What a joke of a human being.
>>739704496and yet NOBLE japanese spirit is still #1 in consooming
>>739704650they're uploads of recently released material so it doesn't work for your "art preservation" argument
>>739698932>>739702020>>739703917
>>739680650Trying to justify or trying to put piracy in a good light is retarded and pointless.t. Pirating since 1996
>NOOO MUH PURE INNOCENT NIPPONESE WOULD NEVER PIRATE
>>739704743Are you not in favor of art preservation?
>>739704468didn't the whole concept of anime started when tezuka copied mickey mouse and made astro boy?
>>739704798>>739703996
>>739704798>>739703952
>>739704803It does, many of these artists are being actively censored by payment processors right at this minute.I understand why you might be ignorant on this issue, you might not be paying attention to all the artists whose pixiv's and fantia's are getting purged.
>ctrl f zainichi>0 results
>>739704765because its old and grandfathered in. the big flaw with traditional culture is you wait 20 years and whatever newfangled thing is now sacred tradition to be upheld. japan doesnt have fair use because it was made up in the 70s instead of being forced onto them in the 40s. same reason they still have the mosaic censorship law
>>739704983the seething against japan ITT comes from chinks mostly.
>Doujins are sacred>But modding is theftActual Japanese mindset, somehow.
>>739695385>japanese people say absolutely retarded shit online for years>no one can see them>suddenly elon turns on auto-translate by default on X>japanese ass on head retarded opinions completely revealed to the public>WHY ARE PEOPLE BEING MEAN TO JAPANNNNN???!!! ITS THE BOTS!!stop being a retard
>>739704946I am and they've moved on to other social media sites and websites to upload their work. Sorry but this doesn't work for your "art preservation" argument
>>739680650>Reeeee!!, you have to pay gaijin, pay creators now!!. Another case of a pay pig that gets angry every time he remembers there are people enjoying the same shit he enjoys, but for free.
>>739705004But the principle still perfectly applies. If anything it's worse, because pirating a game doesn't necessarily ruin his image but having Rosalina from Mario getting gangbanged does.
>>739705101They are still at risk, you want the argument for art preservation to not be valid, but it's untrue.You don't value art preservation, which hey, is a weird opinion to have, but most of society does, which is why archival services which are not made for profit will always exist.
>>739705097WRONG, japanese anti-piracy is a new zoomer thing. new zoomer oorah hey
>>739702446>>739703298>>739703457>>739704301I understand where you're coming from. But the idea that things are the way they are due to their origin and that copyright was nonexistent is the most fairy-tale shit I've ever seen.There have been wars and battles over ideas being similar to one another since humanity passed through the Stone Age. It's nothing new to pretty much anyone. The whole reason why Japan is so prissy when it comes to copyright is pretty much how they treat the corporations here compared to the rest of the world. Corporations being evil is still new to them, and it's why it's harder for them to comprehend why "gaijin piggus" are downloading old shit for free.
>>739704863>>739704883>quoting someone instead of forming his own opinionabsolutely obsessed
Piracy is like smoking weed (in a place where it's illegal)You don't out your weed dealer, you keep hush-hush about "the" places. You don't go around saying "GUYS, AROUND THIS BLOCK AND FROM THIS GUY YOU CAN GET WEED" because it leads to the source being exposed and therefore no more is obtained.It's the same with faggots always needing to make sure their piracy sources willy-nilly, you don't. Maybe you ask in a word-of-mouth way, in a secluded space, but you don't go on social media (specially where corpos can see shit) and go "GUYS LOOK WE STILL HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE FOR PIRATED MANGA" and then get it shut down the next day
I'm pro-piracy, but seeing japs and Asians in general starting a race war against the Latinx, is really funny to me, even if they somehow still magage to force their wypipo obsession in the middle.
>>739704496wow damn, comiket should ban chinks from entering the premises
>>739705313Japanese mentality through the ages is that they would rather die with family secret technique folded over 1000 times, then take on a non familial apprentice and share their craftsmanship.It's completely true.Now, yes, there have been copyright adjacent battles in history before the concept of IP ever existed, but uniquely, Japanese culture intentionally cultivated a culture around ancestral wealth equity, which was applied to many different professions and social stations in Japanese society, more than it existed in other parts of the word.No, this doesn't excuse Japanese people right now being retarded about IP, and also no, the existence of some Japanese people that embrace cultural sharing does not discount the reality that they had a culture centered around resource control of IP.
>>739705265uploading a recently released print is not art preservation when the item is still in production you retard
>>739680650Japs are extremely anti-piracy and very pro-corporation. They don't even like you modifying games, a lot of them despise mods.
>>739680650Always remind them that buying second hand goods is worse than piracy.
>>739705698I don't think you understand the difference between owning a painting and looking at a picture of a painting.
>>739705561light skin has nothing to do with white people though? It's a social class statement. If asians wanted to be white they'd get nosejobs
>>739705064He says this in the video, too; doujinshi are seen as artists equal to those whose work they're taking inspiration from. "Modding" could mean anything, like like tweaking one line of code or adding or removing one texture. I'm not saying I agree, just that it's not COMPLETELY illogical.
>>739680650Not siding with their full view on piracy but I will say if you openly brag about it, even on anonymous sites, you are a turbofaggot who is touchstarved and starved for attention.
>>739705852>just that it's not COMPLETELY illogical.I don't know man. Modifying some parts in your already owned game is considered as "sin" just speaks retardation
>>739705813I don't think you understand the difference between art preservation and chinese rat behavior
>>739705852>stupid bugman jap with shit coding makes a game buggy as shit to the point it breaks every 10 minutes>savage western man makes a mod that fixes the dogshit coding and improves the overall quality of the game by making it playable on screens bigger than a 90s monitor>NOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY DID YOU MOD THE GAME?! THE UNPLAYABILITY IS ON PURPOSE YOU STUPID HOWAITO GAIJIN AIEEEEEEEEE YOU ARE LITERALLY RAPING THE GAME, YOU HAVE RAPED THE CREATOR, YOU'RE A GAME RAPIST
>>739680650I mean it should be common sense to keep a low profile if you are a pirate.
>>739680650Japs are dumb for getting so anal about piracy but they are absolutely right about westerners being complete fucking mouthbreathing retards making a show about it like they're at a gay parade.I remember one of my favorite artists posting some doujin pages on his twitter, and one of the comments went all "bro your art is fire I dunno why nobody else uploads your stuff on *paywalled porn pirate site*, so I'm doing it myself, love your stuff". Like what the fuck goes through your motherfucking head to make a post like that. First rule of the fight club is you do not talk about the fight club.
>>739705772That's a pretty recent thing. Japs were very active modders in the 00s. The goverment made a 180 on copyright laws under pressure from nintendo and large production companies and made it a worse offense than murder.
>>739680650>Watashi wa nihongo callu bootu-licku "respect for the creators"That's basically what he's saying. He's conflating "creators" with "the entire multi-national corporation that owns the product" which is retarded. They would be treating amazon as the creators of LOTR for example
>>739705948I'm not trying to insult you here so I'll try to really convey how the majority of the world thinks and functions.Painter makes painting = $400,000Painted recreation of painting = $4,000Printed recreation of painting = $400Digital recreation of painting = $0For archival purposes, digital recreations of paintings are completely allowed, as long as they are not a for-profit forgery.Forgery is when an artists work is intentionally misrepresented as the original, especially when physically recreated using the same paints and material.As long as the recreation is not an intentional forgery, it qualifies as art preservation.
amazing the moment it is revealed that chinks are the biggest pirates in japan the conversation suddenly becomes about preservation.
>>739680650>we don't care that you pirate just that you're honest about itTypical Jap politeness autism. They're just seething that the rest of us can be honest about self-interest.
>>739706731Almost like he's excusing his chinese brethren after painting japs as hypocritical niggers
>>739694971pretty weird they were filming porn and U15 IV at the same pool
>>739706731>revealedYou mean asserted without proof, because you're massively coping with raw data that incriminates Japan.
>>739706517the world thinks robbing a fan artist of a 5 dollar sale is not art preservation albeit. No matter how you try to justify it, copying and free distribution of a recently released work is disgusting criminal behavior
>raw data that incriminates Japanhttps://e-hentai.org/toplist.php
>>739706929That's not true, that's intentionally casuistry, you are misframing the argument as a intellectual one when you are making a emotional argument.Especially your use of>disgustingThis is particularly emotionally charged and it's disagreeable to good people, you are not making a good moral argument for yourself.
>>739707353art is subjectivechinese rats fuck off
>>739706731>>739706846I'm the only one making the art preservation argument, and the both of you are unable to provide intellectual arguments on how it's not.Instead you rely on low brow racism, bigotry and moral obstinacy to cloud your ability to have honest conversations, instead seeking the emotional comfort of the hugbox of each others echo chamber than directly argue the points being discussed.
>>739707435>art is subjectiveIs not an argument for or against art preservation.
>>739707019Not that anon you attempted to hide away from confronting, but you have a burden of proof in this situation.You have to prove that Japanese accounts are not Japanese.Remember, this isn't just an argument between you and him, the lurkers are watching you.You have an expectation to defend you position.
>>739707797seeing as you're doing it in bad faith, yes it is
>>739680650asians are just new to capitalism and their culture hasnt caught up yet. I worked for an asian part time and they expected me to be loyal to the company and not look for other jobs despite only working for them part time, like i literally asked them if they wanted me to work saturday next week or not (they usually didnt have me work saturdays) because i was offered another gig I was going to do that day if not and they acted like i was betraying them because i was suppose to be their employee. authority worship or bootlicker culture really doesnt mesh well with capitalism, you have to have some sense of independence and initiative with a small amount of distrust of those above you or you will just be used and abused and in some industries even killed if your supervisors put profit over safety.
>>739708071It's not in bad faith, from a completely intellectual reasoning, artists from Japan have been being systemically discriminated against by payment processors.Art archival of their work for art preservation is imperative.This is not a unique situation, many times in history has art preservation been an imperative, even with digital art.I'll give a recent example with the Ukraine Art Digitization Movement.https://heritage-digitaltransitions.com/ukraine-digitization-project/Following the the Russian invasion of Ukraine, initiatives like SUCHO (Saving Ukrainian Cultural Heritage Online) and local museums began rapidly 3D-scanning architecture, digitizing paintings, and backing up cultural archives to secure cloud servers, ensuring that even if the physical art is destroyed, its data and history survive.Japanese artists facing deplatforming and debanking by global payment processors due to cultural differences is definitive art preservation event.
>>739708472It's not preservation if the work is still in production. All of that ratbabble is irrelevant.
>>739685930This guy was paying a extremely expensive hosting service for no reason.AND didnt ban india and middle east so "people" were using his servers for profit because he didnt ban hotlinking.
>>739708696You are conflating commercial serialization when it suits you, and >>739706929 fan art when it suits you.Your argument is not consistent, these are completely two different types of art production, and you are attempting to use both examples for the same arguments when they do not fit.Fan artists on Fantia and Pixiv are being systematically censored and they do require art preservation. They are not serializing the commercial production of their art, your argument does not work here.
>>739680650I can't be too moral about piracy considering 95% of my hdd music collection comes from slsk, but I have to agree with the Japanese dude. Why would you publicly gloat about being a pirate and expect anything else but scorn? Retarded ahh niggas, keep it to yourselves. I nooticed it was mostly latinx ppl who did this too. They really will ruin it for everybody else.
I agree with the Jap somewhat. People who brag about piracy in a public space are vegans that actively damage the piracy scene
>>739680650it's for a few reasons>they will actually be put in prison by their govt for piracy. it's not a civil case like it is elsewhere and so they have to keep up the act that they hate piracy so as not to get reported like japs love to do (this is the biggest reason)>they believe that certain japanese media should only exist in japan and that attempts to pirate it are an insult to them (to be desu, based)>on the whole they are very technically behind, most of them only have a phone>they do believe in supporting their hobbies and being honorable. the otaku industry has only survived up until this point because japanese otaku actually buy the blurays and the physical manga/doujinshi and the physical games these companies put outi see japanese ips in torrent swarms sometimes, even on really hard to get into private trackers. they're also all over e-/exhentai, a strictly pirate site. they do pirate a good amount, they're mostly just keeping up with appearances when they pontificate like that. though they do actually support their hobby, which i respect even if i never spend money on anything i can pirate
>>739709023>Retarded ahh niggas>mostly latinx pplyou are a gross person
>>739684305EULAs you cannot read before making the purchase are respected as much as toilet paper by the average person and for good reason.
>>739705561>Argentina was white all along.
>>739680650not reading this faggot thread but just wanna say that the english quality of the ai-translated jap comments compared to that of the esl retard comments in that pic really does put everything into perspective doesn't it
>>739708989It's not art preservation if you're scanning a doujin from an artist that hasn't sold out their stock yet. All of that ratbabble is irrelevant.
>>739680650japs are also spinless bugs who are afraid of irl confrontation while also being incredibly passive aggressive, so they use all that pent up little dick energy online
>>739709323>ai-translated comments that automatically correctly translate proper sentence structure, grammar accuracy and always present a well-reasoned ai monologue is higher quality than someone who is not being translatedthis might be an iq test your failing m8
>>739709508*you're and also that wasn't my pointesl retards, like increasingly many other people, are obsolete now, and they should just spare us all and use AI to filter their native language rather than trying to do it themselves
>>739681493>>739690292>check oldfag posts >people brag about pirating all the time and even encourage it>IT'S LE HECKIN NEWFAGS THESE DAYZHmmm I wonder whos behind these posts
>>739709710AI doesn't sound natural and it never willImportant nuances and in-jokes get dropped silently, causing sarcasm and irony to be misinterpreted as the real thing
>>739709095>they're mostly just keeping up with appearances when they pontificate like thatnot to mention those types of people are usually the most horrible people to deal with, they'll stab you in the back the first chance you get without a second thought
>>739709862I would rather read a thousand AI-translated posts from that nip than one more post from the retard responding to him and if you disagree you're either a contrarian or a retard yourself sorry
>>739709749>searches 4chan for nu-pirates gloating and posting their piracy sitesthey're on twitter and facebook you retard
>>739690292>arefuck off esl
>>739709481Again, you are intentionally conflating two completely different arguments and misrepresenting it as one whenever it suits your position.This doesn't forward you a winning argument, you are not actually arguing the structure of your statement when you consistently change what you are referring to.Lets start with:>if you're scanning a doujin from an artist that hasn't sold out their stock yetWhat you are referring to, if we go back to here >>739706517, is a Digital Recreation of painting.If the doujin is a piece of art, especially when it is derivative of an already established IP, there is no legal claim that can be made against the digital art preservation if it is not expressly made for-profit.What you might be confused by, is when a mangahosting site gets shut down for copyright infringement.Copyright infringement only happens when a recreation of a work is monetized for expressed profit, as opposed to art preservation.You argued originally, that E-Hentai is not art preservation, however, E-Hentai is not for-profit, which completely validates its legal existence as a art archival platform.Bounties are not for-profit by the hosts, these bounties are completely protected by 17 U.S.C. § 512(c), which allows websites like E-Hentai to act as an art archival service, at which then artists can then request the art to be removed.
>>739709710"esl retards' are atleast verified posts, you are reading someones true words, as opposed to an ai hallucination
>>739681763>all gaijin are soulless automatons without divine spark.what about Aonishiki?
>>739680650I don't pirate, and even if I did, I certainly wouldn't pirate Japanese games as their developpers have been nothing but a joke for the past decade.>crapcom>squeenix>fatlus>sega>tendieshit>garbage rpg series like trails or tales ofWhere the fuck are the good games Japan?
>>739708070I will not do the same for all members in the toplist, but here are the search results when you search for KEYLUN, the biggest contributor to E-Hentai.
>>739710434E-hentai doesn't let you check profiles unless you have an account, but you can create one and look for chinese-language posts, you coping bug.
>>739710167the argument was originally about doujins and chinese rats. Sorry you can't pivot out of it to a completely bogus "art preservation" stance. And no your piracy site which has responded to takedown requests isn't an archival site, sorry
>>739710434>KEYLUN, the biggest contributor to E-HentaiHow many works total did they contribute?How many works total is hosted on the site?We can both agree there are Chinese people on these sites, but the argument that majority Japanese doujin raws are not being processed by majority Japanese natives has to be proved beyond a benefit of a doubt to be a completely qualified statement rather than a speculative one.
>>739707632They're just a bunch of ESL thirdies defending Japan as if it was their god kek
>>739695385>internet becomes more chinese>people become more aware that two nukes was not enoughsimple as
>>739680650The Nip seems to have the right of it. Openly bragging about being a pirate just fosters a nog-tier culture where it's seen as some good to not pay for shit, as evidenced by the mindset that "it's morally correct to pirate (x)". It also leads to non-enthusiasts being exposed to the idea, which in turn gets companies antsy about lost sales and even greater crackdowns on piracy. Ultimately, don't ask, don't tell is and always has been the best practice.
>>739710754same thing with japanese IPs. Can you prove they're really japanese?
>>739710719>sorry 2xunderage alert
>>739680650I grew up in JapanI never met anyone who thinks file copying is theft/piracy/stealingTorrenting was popular until people who created torrents and seeded torrents started getting arrested and because proxies are hard to trust (this post is relevant >>739681448, PD means Perfect Dark)
>>739710826sorry, not sorry
>>739710860You have to be 18+ to post here
>>739710719>the argument was originally about doujins and chinese ratsMy conversation with you was never about your bigotry.I fundamentally believe in art preservation, as do most human beings, and it is strange that you would think this is unusual.And E-Hentai responds to takedown requests due specifically to 17 U.S.C. § 512(c), which allows them the ability to act as an art archival website as long as they comply with the takedown requests.
>>739710839Okay? I've never anyone IRL that thinks piracy is good therefore it's bad, what now
>>739710818If you cannot disprove that the majority of Japanese works are not being uploaded by majority native Japanese, then stating that it's not Japanese people is speculation, largely due to racial bias.
>>739707019Lmfao you are clueless. Exhentai's toplists are full of Chinks who share accounts and use bots to break the rules, like updating Pixiv compilations or blindly voting, and spam LLM slop from Pixiv and Kemono-like sites.
>>739710934I don't think you meet anyone at all anon
>>739695385When China(India) is up, expect a lot of similar posts that reek of envy, sloth, and wrath.
>>739710891You have to be 18+ to post here>>739710924My conversation with you was about doujins and chinese rats though and I'm simply not letting you pivot the discussion to whatever culture justifies you into behaving like a criminal
>>739681448spbp
>>739680650Japs are born bootlickers, so it's understandable why they hyperventilate at the idea of an American pirating a 30 year old Nintendo game.
>>739710839It just Twitter user moment. 80% of Japs doesn't even give a shit about piracy (otherwise, we wouldn't have Rockman CX).
>>739695385Your Redditors being on 4cuck is very organic too.
>>739711103>China(India)I don't understand, are you trying to imply that the people defending chinks are actually indians pretending to be chinese or that the chinese are the same as indians, because the whole thread has been active the whole day shitting on japan and it's only like 5AM in china.
>>739711110>no ugo back
>>739711028If you cannot disprove that the majority of Japanese IPs are being used by chinese, then stating that it's Japanese people is speculation, largely due to racial bias.
>>739711078Yeah, really not sure what is the chink here trying to do. He asked for proof that 99% of contributors to e-hentai are chinese but he's like "tell me what is 2 + 2 and don't tell me is 4, I want proof that 2+2 is 4".
>>7397100482004-2006 anons are nu-piratesabsolute WILD goalpost moving
>>739711357>nu-pirates are 4channers from 2004-2006absolute WILD goalpost moving
>>739711214Lets just say Indians LOVE to roleplay nationalities
>>739711317He got caught and is trying to weasel out of the argument by splitting hairs and going into tangents.My hatred of chinks grows bigger by the day. I dream the day they are seen as the vermin they are, in the same way we see pajeets.
>>739681763Good, i love being a Decepticon who loves the One True God and His Holy Son The Nazarene who died for our sins.
I find it very distasteful when people brag about pirating games and westerners clearly use piracy is a kind of protest like when they promote piracy of Nintendo games something that even mainstream media like Kotaku has done. A problem with modern whites people is they have very little shame and take pride in behaving like criminals
>>739711562indian hand typed this
>>739711110You are the representative of your argument here.The lurkers can clearly see you intentionally evading the conversation, then stating I am pivoting when I have maintained absolute consistency through all of my posts while you proceeded to change arguments when it suited you, relied on emotional arguments when confronted with facts, and have allowed racial bias and bigotry to fuel the majority of your statements.If you care at all about what you are arguing about, you would conduct yourself for posterity, for screencaps for anons to reuse your qualifying arguments, and not for emotional postulation because you happened to be bored one afternoon.I actually care about this on a non-superficial level, you incorrectly attributed that I was some race you dislike, you incorrectly thought this wasn't something I was arguing in good faith, and you incorrectly believe that everyone you disagree with is a criminal.You failed to convey any points that might convince someone reasonable that you had anything worthwhile to interact with, and it is in my honest opinion that in the future you should keep your arguments to yourself, and allow more mature and qualified people to argue them for you.
>>739711646Whiter than you, Paco.
BTW pulling out a "no u" does not make your point. You're just making yourself look like an autistic child.
>>739711730>indian is whiter than you, saar>thinking I'm a mexicanlmoa
>>739711296I didn't state it was Japanese people, I stated you needed to prove it was Chinese people.
>literal chatgpt reply
None of this is about Asian people. It’s about the white man’s complex attitudes towards Asian people. Almost all discourse about Asian people is actually about white people.
>>739695385>This is, of course, totally organic.Correct. Japan is broke and can no longer afford to shill their corporate slop in all corners of the globe
>>739711827japs love ai
>>739711646Indians literally love piracy though
>>739711827https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/4PBWU0jRzWFLmJ6HD110LA/hm
>>739711972So is the rest of the world, your point?
>>739711945yeah me too
>>739712039That if anon was an indian, he wouldn't be complaining about piracy. Piracy is literally hardcoded into every Indian DNA. He's probably a Canuck or something
>>739710839Sexy tanned Megu
>>739711792I live in California. I’m surrounded by Mexicans. I assume Latin American mongrels are the biggest contributors to the anti-brown race wars on here and twitter.
>>739680650japans entire tourism industry and status as a cultural superpower is built on people pirating their media.
>>739711729If you actually cared then you wouldn't pivot the argument from doujin piracy to art preservation so you already lost the argument
>>739711803I'm stating you need to prove the IPs are japanese since you're claiming it's the japanese who pirate
>>739712310ThisOver 98℅ of Japan's broadcast export has been Japanese cartoons
>>739712370>if you actually cared you wouldn't have an argument or beliefs
>>739695770>>739704804why the fuck do you even have reclinable seats if your entire population hates when people recline their seat?
>>739680650>japs are low iq bugs who listen to whatever big corporations and the government tell them toTell these nips they are America’s slave, who gives a fuck about their laws, they are a fucking vassal state colony with a dozen US military bases
>>739712438>since you're claiming it's the japanese who pirateI didn't say that, I said if you are claiming they are Chinese you have to prove that, reread the reply chain.I think you just want to argue, I'm not your friend, go make friends.
>>739712140Do you believe me that Indians don't have any shame, regardless if they're buyfags or not?>>739712309>californiaNow that explains everything
>>739697598>It's extortionYou can't extort digital goods because you can just make a infite amount of copieJust sell the game
>>739700839You're partially right but>if you don't protect your product enough from me you deserve piracyis such a nigger argument like "if you don't have security in your store at night I'm gonna rob it later"
>>739712310The entirety of Japan's modern culture is also just using other peoples ideas and IP's and claiming it as their own creations.It's not a problem that you do that.It is a problem when you get mad when others do the same.
>>739712637reread the thread, you're claiming the pirates are from japanese ips and have yet to prove it
>>739712970so is yours
>>739713002I didn't say that, I said if you are claiming they are Japanese IPs you have to prove that, reread the thread.I think you just want to argue, I'm not your friend, go make friends.
>>739712970No, you said "you're claiming," meaning me, you are saying "I" said that.I didn't.Now you are saying "the thread says it!"I don't give a fuck about what the thread says, if you can't have a honest conversation with anyone you need to fuck off.
>>739713112Just go on nyaaa retard
>>739712790What's being "robbed" in your analogy?
>>739713112You got so btfo you are copy pasting other peoples posts lmaoWhat a fucking loser
>>739713351He's being intentionally dishonest, watch him copy paste someone elses post and respond it to you lmao
>>739713483>>739713589And THIS, is why expanding your sample spaces is important. Most anons who claimed that it's "twitter moment" already aware of Japanese's true colors.
>>739713378Its not an analogy, its a betrayal of the societal expectation of white people acting white. "If you're not protecting your product (with drm or physical media shenanigans) I'm going to obtain it without paying you".I agree with the spirit of the argument that "its the law" isn't a justification, but you should care about the person that is offering you a product.In Japan, there are unmanned vegetable stands where you just take what you want and leave cash there. If you followed the same logic as piracy, there would be no problem in taking all the vegetables without paying, but that's nigger behaviour, its someone that doesn't understand an implicit social contract and morality.
Between shit like this and being so big mad about people reclining seats I am kind of looking forward to these sheltered hall monitors getting a dose of reality in the form of diversity. Japs are retarded.
>>739713730>what are the Vikings?>what are the Crusades?
>>739713351where's the proof they're japanese IPs though?
>>739713730NTA but poor analogy.Video games are just digital products where you can easily copy-paste. Vegies are not.>>739713884>still going
>>739713874> I look forward to ruining Japanese society for the pettiest reasons imaginable Nigger. That’s what you are judging by the content of your character.
Imagine actually buying games. WTF? Yeah I'm a just pirate that shit, and if I can't, good. I want to reduce my game time anyway.>finally hit $100k in my folio this year, already up to $140k because I don't waste money, and went balls deep into semiconductors
>>739713940Not that anon you attempted to hide away from confronting, but you have a burden of proof in this situation.You have to prove that Japanese IPs are, in fact, Japanese.Remember, this isn't just an argument between you and him, the lurkers are watching you.You have an expectation to defend you position.
>>739713884That's not even the right argument lmao, those are Japanese IPs you dipshit, the argument your failing to make is >where's the proof they're japanese people using those IPs though?You're such a retard
>>739714136okay but where's the proof they're japanese IPs? All you're doing is speculating
>>739714035Nigger, you're talking to the wrong person. How can you be this ignorant?
>>739714035>he's copypasting again
>>739713881I don't understand your argument, honestly. You're saying pirating and getting the vegetables from the stand without paying is the same as pillaging? You're undermining your own argument.>>739713940>NTA but poor analogy.Its not an analogy, its about the underlying morality of the behaviour.Anyhow, in the Star Trek example, no one would farm apples to sell anymore because you can clone them, and the same thing would happen with games or any form of art honestly.>There's only physical media so you get all the money for your creation>They start cloning physical media so you get a little bit less, but it doesn't bother you>All media becomes digital, and you can't really protect your profits. People clone your product ad infinitum, but there's still some morality in society so you get paid a fair share>People wake up to the fact that piracy isn't stealing so they simply stop paying you for your media>You stop making media since no one is paying you>0 games, movies, music and art get made because society only clones products, they see no value in paying for itIts a slippery slope, if the morality behind paying for products go away, no one will make anything anymore, just like the Star Trek apple cloning. The thing is, apples are apples, there's no significant difference between them, so its ok to just clone, but if you clone games, new games won't be made (in the extreme event when everyone adopts your morality and just pirates).If you say "people will always be paying", then you don't believe in piracy being right, you just do it because you can, because if piracy was right, everyone should do it and NEVER pay.
wait i thought we liked japan? aren't we an anime imageboard?
>>739714027GOOD MORNING SAAR I AM VERY RICH SAAR I MUST TELL 4CHAN TO GAIN IZZAT
>>739714307he's trolling and fishing for a vacation at this point
>>739714407>i like tacos and burritos, this means i must let mexicans illegally immigrate to my country
The jappa is correct. Its not so much that people pirate, its that they brag about it like tards
>>739714403>I don't understand your argument, honestly. You're saying pirating and getting the vegetables from the stand without paying is the same as pillaging? You're undermining your own argument.i wasn't that same anon, i was pointing out the your blatant plotholes in the history of white culture
>>739714307post another reaction image, that'll show em
>>739714623ok nigger
>>739714668man, that sure showed me that white people didn't have a well documented pillaging culture
>>739714407we do, it's just that a lot of sharties delusionally believed that 4chan would turn against japan just because they are autistic about piracy.
>>739714890I can like japan and not glaze them at the same time anonIt's really not that hard lol
>>739714418Yeah I wish I didn't feel the need to tell people when good shit happens to me. Honestly.Buy MRVL
>>739714890butthurt weeb
"just let the corporation fuck you"-japanese bootlicker before jumping in front of a train
>>739713351Reminder nyaa has been mainstream since that gay Resident Evil live action show.
>>739714890shartroons never got over getting raped out of 4chan, even after hacking the website they are still seething over getting yeeted out
>>739714890>sharties>autisticoh no it's new to 4chan and came here sometime after 2016
>>739680650It's a mixture of them being jealous that other countries won't normally imprison you for pirating a few things and xenophobic "just learn Japanese if you want our products", in which case you can just tell them to get fucked.
>>739715285why are you randomly believing that offtopic post lmao
>>739714403>Anyhow, in the Star Trek example, no one would farm apples to sell anymore because you can clone them, and the same thing would happen with games or any form of art honestlyPeople have made art for arts sake since before money was invented. People make art for arts sake today. People will make art for arts sake in the future.This has always been such a retarded argument.
>>739715596He came here after 2016 too.
>>739680650not only do I not care, but I have met tons of anime and manga creators at various conventions and told them how much I enjoy their work. All while knowing I pirate almost all of it.
They are entitled to money for their product, but I am entitled to avoid needless busywork and unnecessary entanglements of copyright law. For example, if I need version 1.0 of a game for romhacks, it would be silly to search up a copy of the game on amazon for 700 dollars. Just makes more sense to pirate it, and then if the company wants money, you buy the later version. Like if you want to enjoy romhacks for the Mega Man X series, you buy the Legacy Collection for 20 bucks and avoid spending 3000 dollars on ebay.
>>739692542I mean that's literally WHY their art is the way it is. Exactly because of that pressure the desire to create fantasy worlds where you can oppose it is so appealing
>>739684680Honne and Tatemae is antithetical to the Western thought, it's practically ingrained in our culture to say what you mean in good faith because of the virtue of truth regardless if its taboo. To the Western mind, a society that cannot survive that level of scrutiny is not worth living in.
YOUR ELDERS ARE INFALLIBLE CORPORATIONS ARE GODS THE HIERARCHY MUST NEVER BE CHALLENGED
>>739716563>Honne and TatemaeIt's religion's fancy saying "don't take a shit in public", you're not Japanese lol
>>739716893I'm not, I never implied that I am. I'm telling you that concept of having two-masks of a person has been thoroughly lampooned in Western culture for decades. The most you're gonna get is decorum or baseline civility but even then that has been thoroughly subverted.
>>739716742I read Kiichi!! and kiichi vs too
>>739716893GG Allin did not fistfight and throw his own shit at people just so punk culture would be le hecking wholesomerino.
>>739716563>Honne and Tatemae is antithetical to the Western thoughtare you fucking shitting me? ever heard of investor meetings where the board tries to avoid losing face in front of investors? that's the shit at play right there
>>739717230Did you just not read my post on that being just decorum? You think the average person here lives like that or wants to live like that? It's different because Japan socioculturally enforces that type of persona on people, it's why in extension things like wearing leggings out in the gym or in public is still taboo.
the japanese pirate but the chinese are the ones who uploadthe chinese are the biggest coomers on the planet and are responsible for most of the uploads on e-hentai and most of the jav uploads everywherethey have many jav piracy forums, all in japanese, and m-team which is one of their private trackers is the best overall place to download javand i thank them for their service. this shit is impossible to get in the west without piracy, especially older stuff which i prefer
>>739717519 (me)>all in japanese,meant all in chinese. javbus and the others are very useful if you don't have emp or m-team
>>739715828>People make art for arts sake today. People will make art for arts sake in the future.Maybe 1% or less. Even the ones that do it for free actually expect people to pay them one day.How do you expect someone to dedicate their entire life to a craft if it doesn't fill their bellies?Fueled entirely by love?Your argument only makes sense if you're a communist or you live in the imaginary land where artists are actually people that have a job and only do their stuff as hobbyists.
>>739717435you say that like it doesn't exist in the west. people going "uhh, TMI" is that in spades
>>739683012If that's true then you are a good person.
>>739715828>People have made art for arts sake since before money was invented.Barring that the concept of money is quite old that even predates the invention of writing itself, those art that you see were made of someone being bored that did not require much craft or training. In other words, it was merely a hobby. Art as a profession was the only thing that made it viable as a lifelong passion.
>>739714403>"If you're not protecting your product (with drm or physical media shenanigans) I'm going to obtain it without paying you".First of all, what is actually being "protected" here? You don't seem to realize that when you clone something, the prototype still remains. In what way, then, is the pirated copy "your product?" >>739714403>Anyhow, in the Star Trek example, no one would farm apples to sell anymore because you can clone them, and the same thing would happen with games or any form of art honestly.How is it my moral obligation to ensure your continued motivation to create art?
>>739686649It's a newfagGPT LLM.
>>739715059Those guys killing themselves are excusing themselves off of the gene and social pool. They are considered baggage to be jettisoned away but only of their own accord.
Here's a better question OP:Are the majority of weebs really that retarded when it comes to Japan (i.e muh history, muh sharty boogeyman and this faggot >>739714271) or it just some /v/ moment?
>>739717909>How is it my moral obligation to pay you for what you made?Gee whiz I dunno, you tell me. If piracy is morally ok, then lets take it to the extreme, every developer will be paid for exactly ONE copy of the game, and the rest will be free. Guess everyone will need to rise the price of their games to $1M or more to justify the time and work investment by a team, or simply not make games anymore besides free games.
>>739680650The nips are designed to be the cucks by default.
>>739682745kek
>>739717627You're saying in the future the only people who might make art are the people truly passionate about making something and we might not get things like MCUslop or NuStar Wars slop, things made for the main purpose of making money? What a horrible outcome...
>>739718187>If piracy is morally ok, then lets take it to the extreme, every developer will be paid for exactly ONE copy of the game, and the rest will be free. Are you saying that a businessman who makes a bad business deal/proposition deserves your money? If an apple farmer sells apples in a certain town, and the customer uses the seeds of those purchased apples to grow their own orchard to give freely to their friends, thereby losing a great deal of would-be customers, it is the apple farmer who is at fault for expecting a complete monopoly on apples in that town when that was never feasible in the first place. Ergo, he had bad business vision and is now paying the price for that blunder. It's insane to suggest that I should be banned from using my purchased apples how I see fit, simply to protect a bad business proposition.>Guess everyone will need to rise the price of their games to $1M or more to justify the time and work investment by a team, or simply not make games anymore besides free games.Go right ahead. Justifying the necessity of your business to the consumer is part of good business.
>>739718940>If an apple farmer sells apples in a certain town, and the customer uses the seeds of those purchased apples to grow their own orchard to give freely to their friends, thereby losing a great deal of would-be customers, it is the apple farmer who is at fault for expecting a complete monopoly on applestry this in real life, you'll get sued by monsanto for violating their seed patents lol
>>739680650It's always laughable when an industry comes out and says they lost X amount of money due to piracy.The Japs just did this right now saying they lost 5.7 gorillion due to anime piracy.The issue is: these numbers are always fake. Pure bullshit. You can't verify them in any way, no methodology is ever shared for HOW they even came up with these figures in the first place.They just throw out some fuckmassive number and their loyal swarms of fanboys rush out to be like "SEE?! PIRACY IS KILLING TEH MEDIUM!"You can't seriously expect anyone to believe that hollywood or, in this instance, entities like kadokawa or something go around to every piracy site, discord server, IRC, private tracker group, forum, etc. going>"U-Ummm g-guys j-just how much downloaderinos took p-place on this?"Most piracy groups are dismissive at best to corpos interacting with them, and usually hostile.
>>739719139Are you shifting your argument from morality to legality?
>>739718795Have you ever eaten food made by people that are truly passionate about making food for free and are not your family/friends/acquaintances?You haven't, because there's nobody like that anywhere in the world. You won't find someone that will make games for free.The primary motivation for people to work is money, and you want them to work without compensation they'll just disappear.>>739718940>Are you saying that a businessman who makes a bad business deal/proposition deserves your money?No I'm saying that when you violate basic consumer and producer relations, you get restrictive products and insane behaviour that aren't compatible with a moral and proper society. If you plant using their seeds, at first they won't care, but when it gets big enough there will be legislation to prohibit you from profiting from the seeds they created.Same thing with games, they don't care when its just one guy pirating, but if you violate the producer and consumer relation by duplicating their product, you get stuff like always online drm, people selling licenses instead of games, products that only work if you insert your ID confirming the identity of the buyer, etc.You don't want to live in a world that restricts your freedom, so you shouldn't abuse your "freedom" until it gets restricted forcefully.Its the same logic as "I'm free so I'll play music loudly in my neighbourhood at 1AM", its nigger behaviour, and your neighbours will use their own freedom to shoot your nigger ass. Gamedevs will use their freedom to twist the concept of ownership of games as long as you abuse the producer consumer relationship.
>>739719307>from morality to legalityLegality comes from moralityt. jusnaturalist
>>739719510>No I'm saying that when you violate basic consumer and producer relationsCircular reasoning. You need to justify why these "basic consumer and producer relations" are morally obligatory. And I don't mean consumer and producer relations in general, but specifically the type of relation that YOU outlined.>If you plant using their seeds, at first they won't care, but when it gets big enough there will be legislation to prohibit you from profiting from the seeds they created.Lol, who cares if they created it? I bought it legally, so it's now MY property, and thus I can do whatever the hell I want with it. Are you seriously saying one can retain ownership of something they already willingly parted with via a lawful transaction?>You don't want to live in a world that restricts your freedom, so you shouldn't abuse your "freedom" until it gets restricted forcefully.Again, as I've been saying, it's not your freedom to profit off of a bad business proposition.>Its the same logic as "I'm free so I'll play music loudly in my neighbourhood at 1AM", Holy mother of false equivalences.>>739719746Yeah, the morality of the government. Which is subjective.
>>739718075japan is right though?
>>739695385You aren't wrong to get suspicious, but this recent discourse about piracy stemmed from some Latino reverse engineering the Nier gacha game to preserve it, and Japs got mad while the rest of the world was happy, and now it's currently a hot topic. (hence the youtube video)
