Act 3 is quite good actually
>>739684778best one, once you realise how flayer jungle spawns
I liked it, those little fuckers were memorable. I don't understand why they didn't bring them back properly in 4, since they went to the trouble of doing the same zone anyway.
>>739684778I love this game. I almost wanna play it right now, at 1024x768
>>739684778It's a shame about the game tho
>>739684778Full of mobs that just run away from you. Peak gaming.
>>739684778it is, except for hardcore retards
>>739684778act1>act5>act4>act3>act2
Act 1 is the peak of all arpgs. Nothing has come close to that and nothing ever will
>>739684962the skeleton variant did so much damage
Why is Barb bad in D2?
Tomb of Tal Rasha is the most fun dungeon in the game. Love clearing them all.
>>739686737barb is mostly single target and gear dependant. still fun with whirlwind
>>739686737Our brother is heavily dependant on his gear not on his skills themselves just like many melee focused chars attack rating is key to have a high hit chance and don't, magic users do not have that problem at all...
>>739686917*don't = damage, damn it
There doesn't seem to be a good bow in Normal. Should I make Zephir or dumb 3 Tal rune into a bow?
>>739686862Pretty weird how they claimed they can't introduce cleave attacks for barb and what not, then drop a character like the warlock who has all skills and improvements we wished other already established characters should have had
>>739687391if you have an ort make zephyr
>>739687515gotta milk the fans for qol just how they introduced poe stash tabs in that dlc
>>739687515Yeah Warlock is so disgusting OP that it not even funny. >Summon and debuff better than Necro>Melee better than most class since he can use 2-h weapons while holding his book (which also give block chance)>Magic better than Sorc
>>739687391Sorry can't help you with a bowazon, but I bet ginger mentor could have a video or two for you perhaps, even his own build and upgrade paths that could assist yours
Diablo 2 peaks at act 2.All subsequent acts are mid to bad.
>>739684778It's actually a huge relief to be in the jungle after the shit show that was the desert.
>>739687705This opinion is factually only true for act 4
Nah Act 3 is fucking wack, long corridors that can lead into a dead end, confusing as fuck layout of the jungle, I like Kurast though.Act 4 was the most enjoyable and the most memorable, great atmosphere, good quest rewards, Chaos Sanctuary is kino as fuck.
The main complaint about Act3 is that it's too long.I'm starting to think that people don't actually enjoy playing ARPGs, they are just addicted to rolling the loot dice.
>>739687643Don't worry the next character will top that.
I started playing this game a couple weeks ago anons. It's really a fantastic game.I got a Paladin in the 60s at Act 4 on Nightmare and I started a Necromancer which I put on Players 8 scaling (I didn't know about it first for my Paladin) and I'm on act 2.
sure would be a shame if i exploded after dying, killing you instantly
Do you think that they will maker another expansion but with an actual new act? Of course the question is if nuBlizz could make a good one...
>>739691282Careful with necro, once you get past normal he scales extremely poorly unless you play a specific build
>>739691472>Do you think that they will maker another expansion but with an actual new actmaybe>the question is if nuBlizz could make a good onethey can't
Playing through resurrected for the first time (for either version) and the old visuals are just too stretched and the frame rate too bad for me to enjoy them despite usually preferring older graphics, but I can see how much more soulful all the designs are, too, If I was on an older crt with a lower reso monitor I bet it'd look way fucking better
>>739691693I think the new graphics are really well made, but imo the worldstone cutscene in Act 5 looks way better in the original cutscene.
>>739691448>xe/xit/xhem doesn't preemptively pop health potionsthey do a fuggin chunka dmg for sure.
>>739691693The new engine doesn't handle the classic graphics well for whatever reason. They look better on a classic install. jesus fucking christ this new captch is torture
>>739691693they intentionally gimped the og look to make the remaster look better (imo it sucks due to being too sterile and UI is a disgrace). I recommend project diablo 2
>>739691472Doubt it, too much work.
rate the classes
>>739693107Amazon>Assassin>Paladin>Druid>Barbarian>Sorceress>Piss>Shit>NecroHaven't played Warlock yet.
>>739693754And are you rating it in terms of power or fun?
>>739684778act 2 is the worst, especially the arcane sanctuary
>>739693857Fun. I know Sorceress is OP, but she's just not very interesting to play. 80% of your gameplay is teleporting. I don't mean endgame, where every class is just teleporting around, but playing from normal to hell is a lot more fun on everything else. Necro just sucks balls, because he sucks as a caster and summoner gameplay is kinda boring. Amazon on the other hand is just perfect, you're great at fighting and Valkyries feels like a strong companion instead of your main source of damage.
Thematically I agree. It's a good change of pace from the 101 arabian nights adventures of saving Lut Gholaine. Slogging through the jungle and through the ruins of travincal are a major wake up call to how deep the prime evals have sunk their teeth. The ending of the chapter is also supremely KINO and the high water mark for the story. Unfortunately the lack of zakarum characters to fill in the narrative gaps and link the story back to diablo 1 / tristram is a major lost opportunity. The blend of Mayan/ Aztec temple clashes with the borneo jungle and manichean Indian cult kinda sucks, and the NPCs are very forgettable, I can see why people don't really like return to it often.
>>739686737Melee character in a game where essentially every mechanic exists to punish melee.
>>739695461i never really thought about how much poe just copy pasted everything from this game until i replayed it recently, it really is just diablo2.1 with changed names
>>739686737Magic was king in D1 too, and they failed to nerf it enough for D2
>>739694171>necro just sucks ballscorpse explosion is one of the strongest spells in the game
You now speak to Ormus.
>>739698256yeah. and you gotta kill something first to use it. lol
>>739684778act 1 > act 2 > act 4 > act 5 > act 3
Imagine being a Diablo 2 Mercenary and you're with the protagonist and you just killed Mephisto in act 3 and then they drag you into into literal Hell to fight against these horrors beyond human comprehension
>>739686737>Game does EVERYTHING to punish any sort of phyiscal damage character plus stone skinGeez, I still don't know what blizzard was smoking, early patches were tad better but still not that great.
>>7396847785 is the worst act.
>>739699341the mercs are so good once you give them runewords. having the act 2 merc with holy freeze. insight, cure, etc. literally carrying with the auras they can give.
>>739686423The only correct ranking.
>>739691934Deals damage based on HP % like corpse explosion.Difficulty obviously raise monster HP plus modifiers, now do the math.
>>739691448>>739700403they are the scariest part of durance of hate
>>739700719Minions don't receive any damage, so just use mercs to kill them, assuming they can survive dealing with 10 of those assholes.
If I put a charm in my horadric cube does it still give me their effects?
>>739701782i was wondering why my merc wasn't dying, good to know. They do make it really tense and were the only thing i was afraid of in act 3
>>739701948no it doesn't, which is really annoying. I just use it to store items I haven't identified while in the world(basically free item space before having to tp back to sell)
Act 3 is fine if you know the layouts and how the progression works. If you don't because you are new to the game then it's dogshit. You just run into a bunch of deadends and spend all your time wandering around not knowing where to go until you've mapped out literally everything.Nothing wrong with fetishes as an enemy though. Except stygians on hell which dealt too much on-death damage.
>>739687515barb has find item which is the 2nd best skill for farming in the game right after teleport. barbarian with enigma is the only class in the game that gets to have the top 2 best farming skills in the game. The downside is that you need good gear to be better than sorc or paladin
>>739702257the only real issue is no obvious change in zones until you get to lower kurast
>>7396864231 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 5
>>739702545so you pretty much need to trade to make barb good while sorc and paladin are just good by default
>>739702257>tfw you played D2 back in the day on Bnet when map hacks were still allowedSo much time saved.
Guess what level I am right now bros67 lol
>>739684778Aprgs are shit and will always be shit.
>Act 2 Tainted Sun quest triggers>Go to Town to identify>Deckard Cain: "Good Morning"This fucking geezer
>>739703885It has fun combat and cool stuff and things
>>739704272the series will never recover from his passing.
>>739700719I'm more scared of Bremm in level 3 than I am of those dudes. It's tempting to just leave if he has the green smelly aura.
>>739684778I think it's way overhated. The jungle part can be slightly annoying but I just kinda run through it and if I get good map generation I'm usually through it in like 15 minutes, less if I'm sorceress. The rest of the act is great. I usually do meph runs for awhile. The temple music is peak.
>>739704673true those council members can slap
I hope we go to the High Heavens again in the future either in a D4 expansion or D5. I want to see Imperius again and see how things have changed after all the shit that happened in D3, and the angels are also just so cool
>>739705124the only cool one was tyrael
>>739704471>kill him>turn his daughter into the devil>Tyrael is now mortalwhat were they thinking
I haven't really played this since it came out (or since i was like 12 and didnt know wtf i was doing). Should I go for Online or Offline? Want to try the Warlock and I don't have any IRL friends to play with. How annoying is the lack of being able to scale the world/not having static maps online?
>>739705775just blizzard taking a shit on blizzard norths legacy.
>>739686737Melee is very gear dependent in D2. I don't think barb is particularly worse than most other melee builds except zeal, which is the best. He has frenzy which is pretty good, berserk for immunes and find item to find better gear. The worst part about him are his dumb weapon masteries that can lock you into using certain weapons but since they added respec to the game it's not as big of a deal since you can redo your skills. But barb is still a staple to any D2 party because battle orders is easily one of the best skills in the game.>>739702545You can still solo the game with barb, you just need to grind out gear that has decent dmg, life/mana steal and deadly strike+crushing blow. Frenzy is the easiest build to do it with. Whirlwind doesn't stop sucking until you at least get some good hell unique weapons. Concentrate is just ok, takes forever to kill shit but at the same time you become very tanky against melee.
>>739686737lots of boring passives and buffshe exists for the numbers autists who enjoy tinkering under the hood, or people who just love the class fantasy
>>739705819Honestly i have all my characters online just in case i want to trade at some point and i don't really notice any issue with maps, being able to set world players is nice but its not needed since you'll be in hell in no time.
>>739705620Inarius is baller. And Malthael was edgekino. Imperius is interesting.
>>739705775I think Tyrael being mortal could be a good character arc for him if he eventually is corrupted or is killed and then reborn as an archangel again through the Crystal Arch shenanigans and then carrying those experiences as a human with him as an archangel and then putting shit in order in Heaven and taking control to get shit done.I think he's back in Diablo 4 in the new expansion, but I have not played that game yet.
>>739684778how many points in strength do I need as sorc
>>739684778It really isn't bad, I'm quite new to the game but after playing through it a couple times I don't really understand how Act III is supposed to be "the bad one" when Act II exists.
>>739705819online is fun for the trading aspect with randos if you're into that. you need to make some accounts on 3rd party websites (traderie/diablo2.io) if you want to get the most out of it, else you can join random lobbies and try trading with people there as well (I'm not familiar with such a scheme). if you legitimately don't care to trade with people then you should stick to offline because grindan static maps is a lot easier than having to deal with it randomized every time you reset the zone.
>>739705775Wasn't his daughter actually the daughter of the Dark Wanderer (Warrior from 1) and Adria?
>>739706636There's nothing in Act 2 that beats Kurast Sewers in shittiness.
The games kinda short. What do I do after beating baal?
>>739708546beat it on nightmare and you get potentially better gear drops. Same for hell. If you're singleplayer, I guess you just run bosses to make your character better if you want but you technically beat the game with that character.
>>739706841Maggot lair is the single worst part of the game. At least sewers you can just run through.
>>739708546>he fell for it
>>739686737melee is absolute trash in diablo 2. project diablo 2 made all melee attacks have an AOE and it's not even overdoing it to help bring it up to parity.
>>739684778Should I start with this one if I never played the series or even these types of action RPGs? Or should I just play the 4th game?
>>739684778got 2 ber runes within 10 minutes (after 50 hours of lk runs lmao), 3 soj within an hour (nightmare andy) and today a 25/12 griffon's after 20~ minutes of tz andy lolololnow off to grind for infinity
>>739708856Maggot lair always got my libido up
>>739686423Act 2 is fine if you pretend the Faggot Lair doesn't exist.
>>739698443>revives scale naturally with numbers of players >can easily revive up to any higher level monster and then revive them
>>739684778It is, but I like Act 2 more. Desert Kino and Lightning Beetles
>>739703885>person who plays for immediate gratification versus person who plays for long term character progressionIt literally is just different strokes. Most games are extremely repetitive in the short-term though so the former are unlikely to enjoy video games very much to begin with.
I’m gonna do chain lightning
>>739684869How so
>>739686514We lost the tech
>>739691853i don't like what they did to marius in the cutscenes and they changed some of the audio and made it less impactful like when marius gives the soulstone to baal, besides that the cutscenes are pretty kino. nice to see them updated.
"You have entered the great marsh"
I read that they added WASD back, how is it?
Why did they do it?
>>739684778You literally just hold down a button and mow down everything in this game. Its complete trash compared to Diablo 1.
Act 1 is pure soul and I wish there was an entire game that's just Act 1
>>739713061Jews
>>739686737>"defense" on armor is actually just evasion and it can be somewhat useless depending on enemy level>chance to hit which can be low depending on enemy level too even if your stat page says it's highboth of these things punish melee more than casters so they're inherently at a disadvantage
>>739713061>uhm, it's been 20 years since the original?>of course she's aged since thenI actually saw some utter negroes use this as their argument as to why they fucked up the Amazon.
>>739714542the worst shit is>running sets your defense to 0>you have to choose between actually avoiding attacks by moving, or standing still and hoping your armor is enough
>>739713061>is canonically supposed to be beautiful according to Cain>make her an ugly hag in the remake
>>739714708Only running lowers defense, walking doesn't. With some faster run walk, walking is still faster than most enemies. Also shield block % always still works regardless of running or not.
>>739714896Even if you have 60-80% FRW it's painfully slow to walk. Once you reach that amount you're probably in the endgame where you WANT to be quickly moving from pack to pack, and constantly toggling your running is awkward.The only silver lining is that whirlwind counts as walking, so barb has one thing going for him. Shame whirlwind still sucks dick because it's not an aoe attack.
>>739691282Players 7 is the way to go. 8 doesn't get you exp benefit.
>>7397155868 does give more exp than 7. It's 100% exp, plus an extra 50% for each player beyond the first., so 100%->450% at p8.But drops are scaled to 1/3/5/7 and don't get benefits at 2/4/6/8. However, you are a fucking pussy if you play on p7.
>>739715789Drops max at 7, my bad.
>>739715789>However, you are a fucking pussy if you play on p7Technically it's easier that way, as you outlevel everything until you get to act 4,5 in hell.
>>739684778OP making sense finally
