Will she be coming along in Evercold?
>>739726621Did they really need to put a burger in it?
>>739726621Dawntrail was her expansion, her story is over now.
>>739726621Nope.
Already off the ban evasion?Video game generals belong on /vg/
>>739726986ywnbaj
Jannynigger really purged the last thread, must be having a bad dayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9PmrBh2kLs
I got kicked out of college, placed on a list, visited by FBI, and get monthly calls from a police detective making sure I’m not about to snap, for being mentally ill in Final Fantasy XIV, and i play a Female Au Ra.
>>739727097Oh did they?I was out shopping, that's a shame
>>739727097you can't handle a thread
uhhh based
>>739727507god au ra are ugly
How do we fix materia, because I don't want to have to keep changing my materia slots based on what job I'm playing?
>>739727507
>>739727495whatever keeps your hot pockets warm man
>>739727507>Razer
>>739727582t. ranny
>>739728151>just signed his own post that waylul
calyx gone by .55
>>739728210youre lull
>>739727507I'm currently fasting to lose weight so I can cosplay my miera and snag all the menhera bpdemon zoomettes at my local con
>>739727931Girls are allowed to be retarded, they're cuter that wayRazer used to be decent a very long time ago
which dawntrail trial was ur fav
>>739729649my favorite dawntrial is DOT DOT DOT
>>739729649they're all great. necron i'd say is the weakest. if Interphos didn't have a phase 2 in normal it would be peak
>>739729649Trouble with the trolley eh?
Thoughts on fish Ra's?
>>739729767I loved Interphos normal. It was so cool until 'that' happened. It was probably the biggest thing that soured me to 7.0.I know we've all had this discussion 50000 times before, but it's how I feel about Interphos.
>>739729649I wish normal mode trials having one big attack that you could optionally tank lb3 to play it safe was a thing.
Is it ever explained why there are so many Elezen in Living Memory? Specifically Duskwights.
>>739730428Because elezen are bestezen.
And what do we think of Gaia???
>>739729649Doomtrain
>>739730428only god's chosen ascend to heaven
>>739730687ugly model
>>739730687nomura trash.
>>739730802
>>739729649Maybe recency bias but the last one with the water voidsent and doomtrainCertainly not interphos
Krile my beloved
>>739727839i hate that pic so fucking bad
>>739729649Valigarmanda EX, Mountain Fire sucked my dick and balls from the back and made my eyes roll back into my skull
>>739730687hummina hummina awoogagoth dommy muscle mommy *pants loudly as eyeballs pop out of head*
>>739731071I'm sorry
>>739731302janny poster i am going into battle and i need your strongest jannies
>>739731349
krile... my beloved
>>739730687>she's a monster modelI MUST CONFESS THAT I FEEL LIKE A MONSTERI, I FEEL LIKE A MONSTER
>>739731732demihuman*
>>739730593>>739730734Was kind of hoping we'd get something more about Gelmorra soon.
>>739731860world building? this ain't ARR anymore grandpawe're shardsloppin' up in this bitch
>>739730428they wanted more "repreentation" so they shove a bunch of nigger duskies in the game. thats why.
>>739731860i'd be amazed if the game ever dwelled on gelmorra ever again given what it's had to say about elementals after y'shtola got picked up out of there
>>739731860this but golmore>>739731910>implying that shards aren't worlds getting built
>>739732060we'll never get ilsabard because matsuno shit all over the world with his dumb diarrhea.
>>739729649Queen Speen was my favorite but I doubt I'll ever see the Ice Phase ever again
Dead tranny games belong in /vg/
https://poal.me/je78evhttps://poal.me/je78evhttps://poal.me/je78ev
>>739732450At least 10 years of backseat jannying going strong
>>739732450lol
>>739732585good times
>>739732697If only. He doubled down instead.
>>739732450about that...
>>739732909really? cause i haven't seen wuklamao in the recent patches
>>739732987you may be surprised to hear this but there can be multiple dead tranny games
>>739733056not many have tranny chairs, though
>>739726986>Janitor applications are now open. Apply here!Be the change you want to see, Anon-kun.
>>739726754Didn't even notice that desu, but pretty sure its just playing off the EW cutscene.You also cannot actually see that on the actual card.
>>739727507>LaptopDo Nips really?
739726986739732450
>>739733093and even fewer have tranny va’s who do such a dogshit job their lines have to be re-recorded while half the lgbtqmap++ playerbase defends them
>>739733201and even fewer have tranny afterlife god voiced by an actual tranny
>>739733024forgive him, a wizard froze his mind in time during 7.0's active period
>>739733115I agreeLets discuss what we did in final fantasy today. I ran some mentor roulettes on dynamis. extra spicy ones. very few good performances
>>739733248fewer than 1?
>>739733296i'd say there's only one
>pull out my old Encyclopedia Eorzea>have a look over the panoply sections for each job>see old skills like Flash for Paladin and Gauss Barrel for Machinist>think back to that HW/SB era of the game>>I don't really miss any of it
It's funny how these two ended up being such a cute ship they even have doujins about them
>>739729649Valigarmanda was the coolest gameplay-wise, however i felt that they all were weak in general. I personally abandon everytime that i get normal Sphene in the roulette, i ain't watching that God forsaken Wuk Lamat breaking reality like Zenos did again
>>739729649Vali or Train Necron is by far the worst
Posting Yugiri
>>739729649
>>739729649I can tell you my least favthe zelenia onethis is based on the normal mode, mind youhaven't done a single ex
>>739734569zelenia's a snooze
>>739731860they'll probably handwave it into a civilization that shard hopped again like the fucking lalafell
>australian lala joins the party>he does well for about 2 pulls and then turbo tilts (only explanation possible) after fucking up once>starts to fuck up in egregious ways every single pull after that like standing in the middle of the arena while the surfer brothers are doing their intermission animation and then suddenly realizing what's going on and dying while trying to run out>dies like 4 times back to back on the same pull and neither were from unavoidable or anything it was all from doing stuff wrongMan I'm not even mad I actually feel sorry for the little dude. I can't imagine how hard you have to tilt to seemingly get so pissed you forget literally everything about the fight.
>>739734809took a whiff of the petrol mid-pull he did
>>739726621I wish that Lalafell girls were all 50ft tall, same proportions.
Doing Dawntrail for the first time. Just got to cowboy town. It's not as bad as people had me believe, but it is certainly bad. Every character is insufferably flat and stupid. It feels like they didn't even try with building this new setting. Gulool Ja Ja just walked around and made every single culture that exists. >What if you sold your mezcal and coffee? >WE ARE NOW A BENEVOLENT MERCANTILE CULTURE>Did you know that happy, free artisans make better stuff than slaves? >WE ARE NOWTIME FEELYGOOD HELPERPEOPLES>Looks at this Roe. Did you know there are other nations and that we're better as a people if we fight together instead of each other? >WE WILL END 400 YEARS OF BLOODY WARS BECAUSE WE COOKED SOME MEAT WITH BANANA LEAVESAnd to think that all of this has only been in place for like 80 years. They wouldn't stop harping on about how much Wuk Lamat changed, but she was literally the same as the beginning. Just talking about peace and shit with no other reasoning or introspection on the topic or nebulous goal. It felt like they had to rush through a full expac of story so they could fit in the story they actually wanted to tell, which is whatever is on the other side of this weird cowboy town intermission. Boring fucking expansion.
>>739727819Put materia into jobstone
>>739734962but muh pibil
>>739727819Materia set to gear slot
>>739734962Just envision how mad people were at launch, it's a humiliation ritual and it spits in your face
>>739734962>>739735149>youre wrong!
>>739735194Shut up Kate.
>>739735149unironically i think heavensward at launch was worse
>>739735235That's because you're fucking retardedHeavensward was peak and I'm tired of seeing retards like you try to pretend otherwise
I love Krile!
>>7397353893.0 was not peak lol
does this count as modernslop
>>739735561yes but i can masturbate to it so no
>>739735604trash character confirmed. only hope now is the hag cat, odin au ra, and some norse monster.
>>739735561Which top is that?
>>739735639How could you not love this cute dork?
>>739735426much like shantotto, krile is built to have a huge wobbling ass
>>739735793Pretty sure it's scouting/aiming from Windurst.
i think i'm done with the game for now, got my ff11 rdm glam, capped my dol/doh jobswhen's beastmaster? i might resub for that one
>>739736187September
>>739735823anything we know about her is going to be retconned by 8.0 just like wuk
>>739735426>>739735848https://files.catbox.moe/ohg7ri.png
>>739736229ty ladwish i could do hardcore content but trying to do so with kids and not losing precious hours of sleep is nearly impossible
>>739735823I will lick Halmarut's tangy and sweaty body
>>739736479whoops, just_the_tip or shallow_penetration, right in the strike zone
>>739729649None of them.Vali had that cool tankbuster/tower mechanic though. Bring that shit back in EC.>>739734962It gets worse, sadly.
>>739726754They need to distract Americans from yelling pedo at anyone but themselves
>>739726754joke about the archon burger from the literal one restaurant in all of sharlayanalso note g'raha and his staff in the background, the copy of heavensward (fortemps' memoirs) on the left, and the polygon grapes to heavensward's right
>>739736479Das it mane
Started raiding late this tier. 9 10 and 11 were all fun, but what the FUCK is happening in phase 2 of 12? Jeeze.
What plugins do I need to pose characters in funny ways
>>739736803The funny part is that there's really not that many mechanics, it just feels like a lot because you have to memorize stuffIt's a pretty standard fight really
thursday may 28th.... i am forgotten....
>>739737119we carry the flame....... we are xenosysvex
>>739737119
may 2026.... i am forgotten....
>>739734962>>WE WILL END 400 YEARS OF BLOODY WARS BECAUSE WE COOKED SOME MEAT WITH BANANA LEAVEShonestly the funniest part of this is that the cats did fuck all afterwards to maintain or establish anything and it was the only zone that had a genuine conflict in line with gulool jaja being a shit leader, but the plot just grazes over it with "well akshually my hardon for sharlayan can give erenville his second reason to be in the first half of the expac"
>>739737286we carry the flame....... we are wuk lamat
>>739737286
uh oh tuhroons about to melt
>>739737327jesus anon you jumpscared me with an MD5 filter for an old dumpy pic, thought i was getting raptured for a second
>jesus anon you jumpscared me with an MD5 filter for an old dumpy pic, thought i was getting raptured for a second
>>739737386yes anon i know that new 4chan xt fork has one click MD5 changing, very impressive
>>739729649My attempts to farm Necron for wings in PF have been absolutely cursedAlso, it kind of sucks to play as a red mage
>>739735235You didn't even play HW at launch.
>>739726621The MTG FF was so good, bros. Meticulous communication, 5 years in development when sets are normally 2 years, much love to every game.
>>739735235
Whenever I get too sweaty and easily angered, I play bard and everything is right again.
>join a clear party for something you were progging and you're more than ready to clear but other people keep fucking up>you notice one of the healers in the party is one of the dudes who wouldn't stop fucking up in the other clear party you were inWhat do?
>Whenever I get too sweaty and easily angered, I play bard and everything is right again.
>>739730687armpit impregnation
I don’t think this game is worth 17$ a month anymore. In 2016 yes, when you had Heavensward and MMOs were dying and nothing else like it. Now you’ve got all these free games and gacha titles and Warframe and PSO2 and Diablo, Wuthering Waves, Neverness to Everness. I’m paying a monthly subscription to wait in duty finder for 18 minutes to do a genuinely terrible dungeon to get times to buy some pants. If Evercold doesn’t massively revamp this stuff, forget about it for anything outside of story.
>>739739494Yoshi-P gives you endless time to play all the other games you want and this is how you repay him?
>>739739494XIV isn't in the best shape it's been in before right now but it's still better than gachashit.
>>739739494>gachaglory to the tiananmen square massacre
Emergency seXIV injectionhttps://files.catbox.moe/fmw4kd.webphttps://files.catbox.moe/931zek.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/p7zlz2.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/14rrix.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/piwynx.jpg
>>739741813Shale was the only good one.
>>739735389>>739738370>>739738660Dawnfetuses once again only judging an expansion on only the MSQ.HW was objectively the worst expansion, terrible job designs, genuinely fuck all to do, raids that damn near killed the game again, skip soar, fucking diadem, HW was genuinely the if you don't raid you have nothing to do, DTs MSQ might be weak but it's content has been the best in the game so far and you actually have shit to do, not to mention the metric fuckton of amazing QoL changes in DT, just look at the recent glam changes.
>>739741813>Shale
>>739741913Maybe so, but I do MSQ first, and thats my initial judgement call, and what motivates me to stay invested further.Also I was actually really bad in HW so I didn't really know any better.I hated DT's story, but I actually really loved the raids and this time thats what motivated me to stay invested, so I've enjoyed a lot of DT except the story funny enough.But beyond 7.2 I've been enjoying the story again and Sphene is cute. I am excited for Absolute Zero.
I like playing FF14 but I get bored after 2 weeks. Most of my subs go to waste.
>>739742027>Maybe so, but I do MSQ first, and thats my initial judgement callCool, but that doesn't mean HW as an expansion was better, you just like the MSQ more, because again as a whole expansion HW is the worst the MSQ can't save it
>>739742368Mm Maybe.I will never be able to properly judge it at this point due to the updates the game has received since then. Even min iLv runs would not properly inform me on the state of HW.I just remember being annoyed at the changes to bard, and thinking DRK was really cool as far as gameplay went.
>>739741913Wow that's a lot of words that dont relate to HW on release like >>739735235 was specifically saying. You're not illiterate, right???
I read they're adding a new difficulty tier between Extreme and Savage?
>>739742451>Mm Maybe. No maybe, you and a lot of people just naturally conflate msq as the whole expansion which right fair most people mostly just talk about the MSQ, but people annoyingly just ignore everything else>I will never be able to properly judge it at this point due to the updates the game has received since then. Even min iLv runs would not properly inform me on the state of HW. Patch notes still exist, but yes we've powercrept HW hard, but you can still see how many trials and raids are just pretty ass and forgettable.
>>739741913>lil buddy malding about skip soar or disbandHappy was 100% correct, if you were simply pushing your buttons at the base ilvl required for Zurvan EX, you skipped the mech. It was not a hard check to pass at all.
>>739742547>No maybeI'm saying this because I'm not discrediting your opinion, but as I said I cannot properly judge myself.>People ignore all but the MSQVery true. I think its fine initially but as patches roll out, other aspects should be considered more heavily. Dawntrail was the first time I've really had an experience where I didn't like the MSQ and was actively motivated by side content and raids as opposed to the opposite.>Patch notesNot the same as experiencing the gameplay loop myself.>Forgettable trials / raidsI remember most of them l pretty well I believe with the exception of Zurvan and whichever Alex turn was the one where you had to pick up the parts and drop them in the lava. That shit was annoying and getting it in a normal raid roulette even now for me I just never remember what to do.Zurvan all I remember is "skip soar or disband" I couldn't name another mechanic to save my life though and I don't even remember the story reason for his fight.I do vividly recall some of the other trials because I really liked the bird mounts and farmed the fuck out of them at launch. 200+ Ravana totems. God damn. I still have them.
>Want to try out BST once it comes out>I'm forced to buy DT in order to try it>I'm forced to play through the story anyway once Evercold comes out>Decide to try the game again now that I can get 4 days for free just to see if I could force myself to play through the story now before the combat update lands>Get bored out of my mind after about a day of playingLets be realistic here, is it worth the money and time to just buy DT right now and then force myself through the story just so that I can most likely get bored with BST after about a week and then most likely just end up botting the rest of my jobs up to 100 before my sub runs out? A sub plus the game is €46 in total and I can just use that to buy a few indies instead
>>739742561It was easy to skip but also incredibly easy to execute, trying to force people to skip it was a terrible decision. That was basically a proto-Hector moment aka "I'm gonna put up some dogshit strat in my guide just to make sure my name ends up in PF". So fuck you, fuck Brappy, fuck all the other streamers and most importantly fuck Hector
>>739742908Why would you want to try BST, you can go punch cows in the ARR overworld with your chocobo right now.
>>739743015I'm mainly interested in the way it plays and whatever the fuck that "singleplayer duty" stuff is supposed to be but I'm so fucking burnt out on the way combat currently works in the game (and has worked since ShB) that I couldn't even bring myself to use the all of the 4 free days.
>>739743107Summon chocoboSelect BLUGo autoattack ARR monstersYou are now playing BST.The only difference is BST can bring the chocobo into unsynced dungeons.
>>739743008>force peopleAnon it was the bare minimum in 7.5 with 4 months of tome gear and you didn't even need it to skip. If you pushed your buttons on cooldown, it was not an issue. Are you "forced" to mitigate as a tank? Are you "forced" to heal people who take damage?
>>739741813need more of that miqote desu
>>739743212Hey look at you pretending most people playing aren't dogshit at the game. I had no issues with Zurvan because I mostly played with friends (and had bis gear). Do you really think the guys who needed the weapon to help them clear a11s/a12s were capable of "durr hurr hit buttons xd"?Now please stop acting like a retard on purpose, I know it's hard on /v/ but you can do it
>>739741913>caring about MMO "gameplay"LMFAO you're destined to be miserable forever you retarded faggot
>>739743479Rude.
>>739742490Technically between Normal Raid and Savage Raid, it's only a new version of the raid series, not of trials or anything else.If they base it on Merchant's Tale Advanced it will be perfect but I'm nervous because they also marketed Criterion, Chaotic and Quantum as "midcore" and they weren't (Criterion was good though).I'd love to have weekly raids to do that aren't braindead but also don't require PF + raidplan.
>>739727931Razer still has the best mice.
Monk, dragoon, samurai and ninja need a button crunch bad. There is no reason why a shitload of inputs can't be combined like this.
>>739743532>I'd love to have weekly raids to do that aren't braindead but also don't require PF + raidplanThis is what I wanted from this game, the retards I play with aren't so retarded so they find normal boring but are too retarded for Savage+
>>739743371Oh wait it's you, the bad faith poster. Yeah that tracks and makes sense why you sperged out about all of HW when the original post was launch HW. Post discarded.
>>739743658just play SMN, lobotomite
I changed my race from Miqo to Viera last night. What does that say about me??
>>739743872nothing
>>739743872You spent money on Fantasia or used the one rewarded in the ARR questline.
>>739743658I used to be so opposed to features like that honestly until playing more PVP and them also slowly easing that into PVE.I'm more for it these days if it frees up buttons for them to give us more unique gameplay mechanics and styles. Fingers are crossed that evolved mode feels good.
>>739743658What makes people so buttmad about this? That you get to press two buttons next to each other or a mouse button instead of the same button twice?
>>739743658>monkAbsolutely not, it really doesn't have many buttons and its combo system is actually unique and interesting. All they need to do is fold the AoE in with the single-target.
>>739743913bro your freebies from creatively bankrupt unit's attempts at polishing the player models but instead shitting the bed?
NoClippy, ReAction, or xivAlexander?
>>739745332NoClippy only
What is the most Normie chosen race in FFXIV
>>739745669male midlanderobviously
not even joking but is this tweet AI generated
>>739745853What's so labor intensive in this post to warrant the use of AI generation and its costly resources just to cut corners?
K.O.Can't fucking wait for the one and only next.
>>739746012to be fair I'm just guessing since the post reads like something from chatgptmaybe the intern actually typed it out like this
>>739745735I thought it be miqo'te girls because they're the most popular by far
>>739746158anon said normies, not tranniesnormies don't play female characters
>>739745853What are we getting 7.51? I hope we finally get the other Sphene cash shop outfit and hairstyle.
hopes for evolved job design?
>>739733623Anecdotally, the only time I ever see people say they miss it when they're talking about how all other jobs were in the gutter but theirs reigned supreme, or their job was able to grief another job (AST with MNK)Personally, I'm looking forward to what Evolved offers. If only because of the removal of the 2m meta.
>>739727507Man, foids are bad at Au Ra.
>>739734962I mean Gulool Ja Ja mostly united the continent through fear (or admiration) of him.But yeah otherwise 7.0 was pretty bad overall.
>>739733889It be weird if they didn't!
>>739735235HW on release is pretty meh as well. Thordan and Nidhogg are both shit villains, having my MSQ interrupted by a plotline that only raped 2.55's intrigue in retrospect was also not very good. Azys Lla is puketown, Churning Mists and Sea of Clouds were really ugly at the time. Bismarck is one of the lamest trials alongside Lakshmi.But I'd still argue it was better and less insipid than Dawntrail. It had some cool moments and some actual character development. Wuk got none of it, and the preexisting characters felt like they regressed.There's definitely space to shit on 3.0 as it's become grandfathered in as one of the community consensus "peak" expansions, but it has plenty of flaws.But to call it worse than Dawntrail, that's a bit much, I think. Dawntrail had moments where I quite actively felt like I was being insulted, like the Interphos trial cutscene and ending.
>>739739494>I don’t think this game is worth 17$ a month anymore.then stop playing, anon. it's alright.>gacha titles
>>739743532Well, criterion was already savage level, so if they made the new raid difficulty criterion, they'll just have savage 2>>739743681For me, personally, I just don't wanna bother with the hassle of either PF or a static. I just wanna have fun
>>739745974we're really not getting that cosmic exploration motorbike huh....
>>739727507Wish my femboy would cosplay her character
>>739747017Easily filtered.
>>739735848TRVKE. And it belongs to the WoL.
You have to wake up this early to drop the thread, Abel?
>>739747157>Well, criterion was already savageYes - but they probably initially intended Criterion Savage to be savage level (hence the name), and regular Criterion to be something inbetween. They've had a track record of making things too hard by accident for the past two expansions. They /finally/ nailed it with Merchant's Advanced and I can only hope they learn the right lesson from that.I saw a lot of raiders calling Advanced a pointless boring baby mode waste of resources.
is there a mod to modelswap all the modern streetwear out of the game? i don't like seeing it.
>>739739494>free gamesfull of third worlders, children, and children third worlders>gachalol comma lmao>warframewoke garbage>diabloblizzslop garbage>more gachashit namedropsrefer to point 2
>>739748146>Yes - but they probably initially intended Criterion Savage to be savage level (hence the name), and regular Criterion to be something inbetween.Yep, and they failed.It was savage and more savage.>They /finally/ nailed it with Merchant's Advanced and I can only hope they learn the right lesson from that.Same. But unfortunately, I expect that they'll only see people complain and ignore that they're complaining about the rewards and then assume people disliked Advanced in general.>I saw a lot of raiders calling Advanced a pointless boring baby mode waste of resources.Raiders can suck my dick and balls.
>>739727507She's tiny
I got put in GM jail for being indecent in chat. Are these prude motherfuckers for real?
>>739748709stop ERPing and play the game
>>739748709what'd you do
>>739748709simply do not be a sexpestit's literally that easy
>>739748709/em flips up <t>'s skirt and takes a photo
Since I can’t put this in OP without Janny having a meltdown:Whats everyones hopes and expectations for Evercold evolved mode? After looking at the keynote I don’t really have any hope at all, depends on what the other jobs look like but what they showed of bard, whm and pld does not give me any hope.
>>739749119lobotomizations for every jobdunno how anyone can expect anything else after what they did to SMN, DRG, SAM
>>739749119I main DRG so I don't need to hope or expect (unless they change it a lot)But I'm excited.Maybe they'll unfuck DRK and that'd be neat.
>>739749119Why do you not like what they showed?What would you prefer?DRG's new positionals look fun, and the PvP jump is great job identity.
>>739749387Also, getting a Spineshatter Dive every 20s is great.
>>739749119i saw no information about evolved mode, i expect nothing, and i will still be let down, because i've seen the reworks they've put out recently
>>739730687Bet she rims real good.
>>739749119One thing that I think they desperately need in this game, which I haven't heard very many people talk about, is substat interactions. Right now, the only stat on your gear that has any tangible impact on your gameplay is spell speed/skill speed. Crit, DH, and det all just make your numbers bigger. It doesn't matter if you're wearing leveling dungeon garbage or raid bis, the actual gameplay of playing your job is always exactly the same. I would want to see job design that incorporates certain sub-stats synergies. Something like "machinist 1-2-3 combo now generates 5 extra heat when you direct hit" or something, just as a simple example. This would make jobs feel more interesting, introduce more decision-making, and possibly most importantly it would make gear upgrades actually feel tangibly rewarding. I don't actually think any of this will be implemented in evolved mode though
>>739749697I don't actually think that's ever going to happen.
>>739745853it's foid generated
>>739749959yeah it does seem a bit foid cat aunt coded
>>739745974i recognize that cabbage
>>739749119Based on DRG and BRD I'm expecting dps jobs to be excellent.Healers are up in the air right now. If I was in charge I would make WHM really straightforward and easy like they have done but I'd also make SCH and AST much more intricate and complex. We need to see more to know if job identity will win or the braindead healer crowd will win.
>>739749818Yes but it's nice to dream
>>739750186Yeah, I'll need to see what they do with Sage.
>>739726621>polygonal grapes made it into the drawing
>>739741813bruh that elf npc looks similar to my elf, uncanny as hellcan't blame square for recognizing greatness
>>739748824This is an unreasonable demand.
>>739743658i have to disagree on samurai and dragoon, current versioms of course. the XIVcombo for samurai makes it actually more annoying to keep track of your combo steps, even worse for dragoon. dragoon has a 7 step combo for both flank and rear and you have to keep track of the next button so you can use your ogcd buff on it. it makes it unnecessarily complicated and annoying. monk is actually very chill thanks to XIVcombo, almost feels like cheating.
>>739745974When did Speen become a Viera?
>>739749119I posted this in the other thread that got deletedI mostly play healers>White MageHopes:>Sanctity is a DPS gain and not DPS neutral to one glare>Afflatus Misery is a major dps gain>praying to god that the DoT is not goneExpectations:>Dia gone>sanctity and afflatus misery are dps neutral to the glare/s you lost>AstrologianHopes:>6 different card buffs that aren’t lame like they are now, preferably nothing that improves healing, is a regen, or grants a barrier as we can already do all those things with other buttons>royal road is backExpectations:>Card system removed or are reduced to a single 1% damage buff for the sake of pretending it buffs>astrologian DPS skills become more burst heavy>healing rewards you with a lord card>ScholarHopes:>Fairy pet is back rather than being tied to the scholars own cooldowns>fairy bar is used for something else, maybe an offensive/defensive buff the fairy can provide or utility like silence or slow>Seraphism deleted or replaced by an ability that doesn’t look dumb as fuck>deployment tactics spreads dots or shields depending on choice>they get a new dot>Chain stratagem isn’t deleted but instead made to be maintained>heaing damage or a barrier being completely used up grants you a stack of aetherflowExpectations:>nothing changes fairy cooldowns are still the players>chain stratagem is deleted>heaing damage or a barrier being completely used up grants you a stack of aetherflow>SageHopes:>Toxikon becomes a dps gain>Pneuma is a DPS gain>Taurochole changed to just be a heal and separate the damage down buff so I never waste the latter>holos gets changed to be something else as right now it performs the same buff as other buttons>some new mechanic related to healing that rewards more burst dps like phlegmaExpectations:>nothing changes>healing gives you an addersting or something similar to that
Hopes?>Sage
>>739749119i've liked everything i've seen up until now so i remain optimistic but i'm specially interested to see what they'll do with SMN, if you will actually do summoner shit for once
>>739751967Current smn can't get more smn than it already is. Did you want ff7 length cutscenes
>>739749387Pld and whm unchanged outside of making some button consolidations that are bad and some that are good (1-2-3 combo). The “new” things they added to those jobs aren’t exactly new, especially in whms case, they basically took the lily mechanic and copy pasted it but made it work based on an ogcd and basic gcd heals instead while tying lilies to plenary, both are “damage refunds” according to stream so it fucking sucks that whm is still just a glare mage, moreso now that it seems that Dia is gone.Bard was another disappointment, they got it right to let you “choose” a buff but none of them actually do anything that matters. You can tell that their brand of support now will just be “oh you can help heal” or “you can give an inconsequential buff that does not help damage in anyway like movement speed”.I wanted the 2 minute meta gone sure but I also didn’t want them to remove buffs/debuffs entirely. I thought the removal of 2 minute meta would let them do more buffs than just damage up and damage down and let some classes specialize in buff maintenance like HW astro instead of giving everyone tiny 1%-5% buffs to stack but nope.I’m just not interested in every class revolving around simply following a rotation and dodging yellow piss. I don’t expect them to make any encounters where healers have to react to healing either, still just pattern bullshit.
>>739737119>Twitter filename
>>739745853>TacosThey're doing it on purpose now. They can't be this out of touch?
>>739751682>I mostly play healerslol fag>White MageMisery and Dia are both gone. RIP.>AstrologianMr Prime made HW AST in the first place. And given how much he talked about job identity I have some optimism for the card system. With buff alignment gone we could actually have a card that provides Haste again. But if there are consistent, predictable damage buffs available the gameplay will just degenerate back towards a buff alignment meta.>ScholarMaintaining 2+ dots and permanent chain strat would be great. I would like more fairy stuff but it doesn't have the be fairy bar - it would be interesting to be able to command the fairy to move to an ally and that being one way for you to target healing on the tank or the vuln stacking dps.>SageI really just want them to go all in on giving it an actual dps rotation that has healing as side effects. I mean 4 new dps spells and Eukrasian versions of each of them.>>Taurochole changed to just be a heal and separate the damage down buff so I never waste the latterIsn't that just Druochole? What's the point?
>>739752114Anon, movement speed is the best dps buff in the game
>>739749119>PLDPLD looked neat to me, but if I had to be really critical, maybe I expected... a bit more? The charge-cover and sheltron-counter thing is really cool, though. If it's actually relevant in combat more than once every 5 years. Really sells the protector image. But other than that, it didn't look too changed from what it currently is.>BRDBard looks great, and it's really just going to depend on how flexible it is. If it's going to end up as just being Endwalker Summoner with a Bard skin (you have to keep rigidly switching between your legos with no variability other than maybe choosing your first lego), then that'll be really disappointing. I guess what I'm saying is: it depends on if you're expected to keep circulating the songs the same way every time, or if there's some level of choice inherent there.>DRGDragoon has me over the moon as a Dragoon main. Winged Glide is gone and instead we get a Spineshatter Dive with 3 charges and a 20 second CD? We keep Stardiver every minute and it's now joined by the PvP LB3 which (currently) has a 90% damage reduction? I fucking kneel. My only worry pertains to how the slumps between the jumps will feel. I have no problem conceptually with a jump every 20 seconds, but if all you're doing between those is 1111111111111 that'll be a problem.There's the Sinister, Dexter and Winged Chaos, but it looks like it's 10 seconds between those as well. And you could probably store jumps to go fast all at once, but that just means that instead of jumping every 20 seconds, you're now waiting a whole minute to do anything instead. The most exciting part to me was the opener with all positionals in quick succession, and I want the gameplay to be more of that. Will have to see. Really excited so far, but the idea of a 1111111111 lull between actually doing stuff is simmering in the back of my mind.>WHMHonestly, only WHM looked boring to me, but I don't play WHM so idk if it got worse or better.
why does a majority of xiv humor involve male roe with goofy name
>>739749119>SCH stops being a janky piece of shit being carried by a few overpowered abilities.>Non-eukrasian GCD heals are worth using on SGE.
>>739752574Because male roe are the protagonists of the show.
Honestly SGE and WHM having actual dps gains in their burst skills makes a lot of sense. As it is right now sge gets rewarded with fucking movement while losing damage for putting up a shield, whm gets refunded 3 glares for spending 3 gcds to heal, which in essence its really just toxikon in reverse since 100% of the time Im using afflatus heals to move.As cool as Pneuma and Toxikon look its retarded that both of these buttons are only dps gains to dosis on AOE.I don’t think AST and SCH are fixable at this point those classes are doomed forever wait for the new healer in 3 years and hope its not a burst dps healer like whm and sge.
>>739752114>Pld and whm unchangedI'll give you PLD but WHM is drastically different.>both are “damage refunds”It seems like they turned lilies into Eukrasia, and Misery is gone. So WHM only has one damage refund system and it now requires effective healing instead of wasting lilies while the party sits at 100%. Mechanically I consider that an improvement but it's dumb to make a confusing new refund system instead of just changing how Misery works. Misery is a cool skill.>inconsequential buff that does not help damage in anyway like movement speedMovement speed is actually great both in dungeons and in high-end static raiding. The heals look very limp though.>I don’t expect them to make any encounters where healers have to react to healing eitherSad but true
>>739752114Why'd you think the 2m meta happened in the first place?
>>739753117Because of all the individuals in the thread who are still thinking of healers in a dps output framework instead of actual healing and support
wow, really important discussions about ffxiv i see
>>739752510Misery is still there. When you use plenary cure and medica change to afflatus heals. Sanctity is literally misery but on ogcd instead, probably refunds glare 1/1 per charge.Dia being gone is an actual crime.>the guy that made HW ASTConsidering this is the same guy that worked with SHB and beyond it doesn’t inspire hope either way. 2 minute meta being gone would make me hopeful that haste, cooldown buff, dhit buff and crit buff could come back at ACTUAL buff percentages like 10% and royal road and time dilation back as well but then you see new bard and you realize they don’t want to give you any damage buffs at all just crutch shit that wont make a difference.What scholar needs is the fairy back. Nobody seems to notice this because everyone bitched like a plague about contagion but the fairy isn’t an actual pet anymore. Scholar was fun when I could spam fairy silence while spamming broil at the same time or ordering it to do whispering wind while ogcding rouse in between broils, what we have now is literally coming out of the scholar not the fucking fairy. Yes it also needs dots back, i also want bane back.The thing about taurochole and this fame has so many fucking abilities like this it pisses me off to no end, is that the damage mitigation component is lost most of the time because I usually just use it to heal since its a better return than just mitigating a tank buster. Its just fucking gay to have yet another healing ogcd with an extra effect just tacked into it, give me something else holy shit. I actually like how sage plays I just hate how utterly repetitive its entire support skillset is, not to mention that its a fucking copy paste of scholar.
>>739752517Charge-cover will be very situational, with some planned use on tankbusters and unplanned use on saving allies in casual content. Sheltron-counter will be a dps gain over filler so you'll want to optimise your use of it to catch as many instances of damage as possible. That's actually good reactive gameplay.
>>739749119I want a 6 elements for Summoner (Leviathan, Ramuh, Shiva) and for there to be enough decision making between their usage.
>>739727839Holy fuck I almost had a stroke there
>>739753117It happened because the game was designed around 2 minute bursts. Even back in HW, dps got pissed if you gave them spear because it would misalign their buff or ogcd damage skill with the burst window. If shit like that ceased to exist and large buffs were given to specific classes like AST and BRD then dps wouldn’t complain when you give them a buff that lowers their cooldowns. With TP gone haste buffs also shouldn’t be a problem. Honestly I don’t even know why I am explaining this to you, someone like you would never get it.
>>739753358I just really liked how the charge-cover looked. It looked peak knight protector.
Fuck off with your dumbshit party buffs.Give BRD and DNC and maybe AST something cute but minor and be done with it.Party buff dance troupe shit ruined the gameplay.
>>739730687black lipstick on black asshole
>>739753649Yes delete healer and tank roles while you’re at it. This game should only be DPS rotations and dodging yellow piss HP should just be vuln stacks, if you get 3 you die.
>>739749119>hopesI want to see more information about the enforced MT/OT thing, but I like the idea.It would be cool to see a similar concept for the other two roles, though I have no idea how to implement something like that without making raiders kill each other over it (I bet they are already waging wars in the official forums just because their favorite tank is will become an OT in EC).>expectationsI will drop my current main job and just play with the newest one because they the job rework deleted my favorite button (again).
>>739753736So variant dungeons?
is there a point for the cosmic weapons? do they become lvl 100 relevant at some point?
>>739738536it was horseshit lmao>jack shit for the first 5 games>no consistency between games colorwise>same games that got precons got 80% of the cards from the set, FFXI/XII basically tossed to the wayside>"FF7 is the only game with limit breaks btw">set mechanics are uninspired as fuck and actual cards that care about them were unironically pushed to avatar/strixhaven>vivi megablunder>cards with named characters that didn't get cards
>>739749119>SMNI'd like for the job to be picking summons to match certain situations instead of cycling through their gem set until you get access to the big onesbut that can go wrong too. like you'll probably be picking the same ones over and over again for damage because otherwise you'll miss the enrage or the healers are doing their jobs right anyway so just dps harder>SCHI don't know shit about it besides wiki skimming but I think XI SCH swaps between black and white magic books? that sounds fun, like they can swap between different ability sets depending on what they need to do. black book gets the dots back and a scuffed dps rotation, 0 or little heals outside the fairy farting out heals by itself or they can only shield until they go back to white and can shield and heal
>>739753736Yes, I'd rather engage with my actual rotation than circlejerk soulless buffs.
>>739753863I think the last step (so far) - Oizys? They're strong enough to warrant use? They'll be even more powerful in Auxesia, of course.
>>739752754>WHM is drastically differentNo it isn’t>they turned lilies into eukrasiaNo they did not, sanctity is an OGCD not half of a gcd and as stated by stream it refunds a glare per cure so we can assume its 1/1.>Misery is goneIf you were paying attention to the stream you’d realize that when they use plenary cure and medica change to afflatus heals, the lily gauge is also still there and works the same way.>Misery is a cool skillRefunding damage is not cool, if it was an actual gain outside of aoe I’d agree.>Movement speed is actually great both in dungeons and in high-end static raidingMy problem is less this buff and moreso that its the only notable buff, more importantly its a crutch or qol not an actual “difference” maker like a damage buff would be.
>Finally rid of the annoying bottleneck to game design that is overlapping damage buffs>"Uhhhh when do we get our synchronized damage buffs back?"
>>739753952thank you anon, i'll keep them for now
>>739753896XI scholar would never work in FFXIV.Its a hybrid mage that can effectively be either a full blown white mage or black mage depending on stance. Accession and Manifestation also turn spells that would normally be single target into aoe giving them access to buffs and crowd control no other class has.More importantly FFXI’s buff/debuff system is vastly more varied and larger than FFXIV’s so the amount of things scholar can provide in that game would never translate well into FFXIV.
>>739754252For posterity, this is an example of what the tools are like at Oizys level.
>>739754231>things nobody said the postWhy can you never debate honestly anon? You’ve been shitposting for at least three posts now simply because you don’t like buffs and have dps brainrot
>>739754334oh shit, guess it's soon to unsub
>>739754358>everyone same personWhy would anyone not want to debate honestly with you, I wonder.
>>739754231None of the posts is asking for “buff stacking” I will quote my own fucking post:>>739752114>I thought the removal of 2 minute meta would let them do more buffs than just damage up and damage down and let some classes specialize in buff maintenance like HW astro instead of giving everyone tiny 1%-5% buffs to stack but nope.Learn to fucking read ESL
>>739754429Nigger NOBODY said anything about buff stacking just that they don’t want buffs gone. Buff maintenance and decision making classes are VERY different to giving every class a small raid buff with the purpose of stacking it in set timed bursts. Why does every job have to be a generic dps? Do you think healer players want to play a dps or an actual healer? Do you think tanks want to just dps? Or mitigate and manage aggro? Stop being a dishonest piece of shit faggot.
>>739754231yeah, the game just got the opportunity to recover and retarded tourists are eager to rape it again before we can get anything worthwhile. you'd wonder why this game didn't already die five times over
>>739754581The only thing you'll get is a Kaiten and you'll be happy with it.
I hate party buffs and I think individual buffs are kinda boring. Lance Charge never really interested me, personally.
Can't wait to watch people get clowned next tuesday
>>739755168Can't wait for the DDoS attacks that are going to lead to 2 more months of the community saying they're quitting because Square isn't willing to invest in good servers.
>>739753308>check that post>353 updoots>for a post that is a twitter screencap of a guy gooning over an npc being called 'queer' (strange)What the fuck is wrong with that community
>>739755504Constant validation Also it is a funny joke
moe...
Probably the worse feeling is being smart enough to know your retarded but too retarded to understand why. I enjoyed dawntrail and didnt mind wuk lamat but after reading everyones thoughts on why the story is bad I agree with pretty much everyones points. It wouldnt be the first time ive enjoyed something only to find out that its trash later on after having it explained to me.
can we have a job with actual pet actionscan we have a job with dotscan we have a job with real procs
>>739755734moe hags is kino
>>739754126>>WHM is drastically different>No it isn’tSlidecasting is gone, Dia is gone, burning lillies for movement is gone. Basically all the healing skills are changed. The changes aren't interesting but they are significant.>lilies are not eukrasiaThey're not half a GCD, but they are spent to augment your actions.>sanctity is an OGCDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uiNEwa7oT4 1:09:10 Holy Sanctuary is a GCD Spell that consumes the Sanctity Gauge to deal damage in proportion to how many sanctity charges you have.>>Misery is gone>If you were paying attention to the stream you’d realize that when they use plenary cure and medica change to afflatus heals, the lily gauge is also still there and works the same way.1:13:00 The Lily Gauge is still there. It is spent on an oGCD that uses Plenary's icon. When Tamaki spends a Lily he gains a Japanese buff that translates to "Healing Lily" (maybe that will still localize as Plenary? idk) and a buff "Afflatus". The Afflatus buff is spent on augmenting High Cure into Afflatus Solace which heals & gives a regen. The JP buff just drops off, I can't tell what it does.Again, Misery is gone. There is no Afflatus Misery. Holy Sanctuary has taken its place as the sole damage refund skill. Spending lilies is not required for a dps refund.>>Misery is a cool skill>Refunding damage is not cool, if it was an actual gain outside of aoe I’d agree.Yeah I just mean the VFX/SFX, refunding is gay. The new one has a cast time at least which helps it to feel meaty.
>>739741913>HW was genuinely the if you don't raid you have nothing to do>DTs MSQ might be weak but it's content has been the best in the game so far and you actually have shit to dowhat the fuck do you do in DT if you arent a raider?
>>739755991>can we have a job with actual pet actionsbeastmaster which is a limited job :^)>can we have a job with dotsold SMN which fucking sucked desu. not like nu-SMn is any better, but still>can we have a job with real procsexplain
>>739755991Well they are bringing back more positionalsIts not impossible Evolved could bring back dots, pet actions, and procs...
>>739755643I dunno, after years of having to deal with these types, the joke being sex, or homosexuality is kinda fatiguing to me. I'd rather people just be upfront about their lust than clad it in some zany joke.>wow you must be fun at parties it's just a jokeIt's one of the FF community's only jokes, and that's if it's a joke and not intended to be a statement. "AND THEY WERE ROOMMATES."
>>739756074nu-SMN had a basis they could've worked with.Problem is they kept it a basis. What the hell.
>>739756074>procs>with xiv netcode
>>739755807in retrospect you may come to understand that something was more flawed you originally realised or even kind of bad, but at the end of the day, if you had a good time, you shouldn't let anyone take that away from you. it's okay to like "bad" things.
>>739756350So upset, I fucking missed >>739755991
>>739755807Honestly, it's bad, but it's not as bad as some of the people who made it their personality make it out to be.A lot of its flaws are present in other expansions as well, but the problem is just that the narrative was both weak and uninteresting. You can have a weak narrative that still is compelling because of some other quality it has.Dawntrail, at least 7.0, suffers from having a lot of boring slogs and also having pretty bad writing mixed into it.I will say I think there are parts of it that did have potential on paper, but that's also a con: any potential it might have had was squandered.To this day, I unironically like 4.0 less, mainly because I was just so, so bored all the way through. There were so few points in the story where I actually was invested or interested. Less so than 7.0, even. Ultimately, I do give FF14 some slack whenever its story hits a slump. I did with Stormblood, and I did it with Dawntrail. Story quality has always gone up and down, and the good times I've had with the story allow me to weather the bad times. So long as they are willing to listen and pick things back up where they dropped them, I'll probably give them a shot.
>>739755734the moest
>>739755991>pet actionsNever ever, their system is too janky>dots and procsWe can now that raidbuffs are fucking off. Depends how brave Tamaki is/how many middle-managers are in place to squash his designs.
I don't like dots unless they thematically feel like they fit the job.
>>739756047they'll probably let you change the vfx for sanctuary to afflatus misery
Finally making my way through post Endwalker after putting off for a couple years. What's up with Zero? I don't hate her, but she's feels inconsistent. Like they want her to be two things at once. A "voidsent" that knows nothing of emotions and why you would be nice to others. Despite every other voidsent around having goals, drive, and emotions. She doesn't remember all these human things. But she can somehow still recall the history of the void and her own life before everything got this bad. I'd rather them just pick one. Zero could be a lot more interesting if you change the framing a bit more. Either someone who was born half voidsent without human upbringing, but still came to display chivalrous without understanding why. Make it that when memoriate/voidsent die, form, and absorb others it wears away at your emotions or memories as a voidsent. I wish there other people like her, maybe those too far gone. Is she really that special when you've got people like Rubicante and Golbez who still remember everything?And right now currently we have to convince the Garleans to let us use the Tower of Babil or they'll be super scared? Am I thinking of a different device or building, but haven't we been using this thing constantly to move back and forth between the moon? In several other pieces of content/story? And now all of a sudden every Garlean civilian is even more ignorant about aether? "Voidsent? I don't know nothing about that. Don't you go messing with that evil tower." And Vrtra not leaving anyone to guard the void portal in his dungeon was stupid too. I feel like I'm jumping through hoops that are ignoring previously established facts or character traits. Realm Reborn filler at least had consistency. If a character was stupid then I could expect them to be stupid. When does this get better?
>>739757250Flavor wise I initially I thought it was kinda dumb that summoner was a dot job but now I think it's even more fucking stupid that Bard is effectively the only dot job in the game.
>>739756047>They're not half a GCD, but they are spent to augment your actions.Eukrasia doesn’t augment actions it changes them into something else.> It is spent on an oGCD that uses Plenary's icon. When Tamaki spends a Lily he gains a Japanese buff that translates to "Healing Lily" (maybe that will still localize as Plenary? idk) and a buff "Afflatus". The Afflatus buff is spent on augmenting High Cure into Afflatus Solace which heals & gives a regen. Fair enough I can’t read japanese so I assumed it was just the lily mechanic again. Thanks for the info.> Slidecasting is gone, Dia is gone, burning lillies for movement is gone. Basically all the healing skills are changed. The changes aren't interesting but they are significant.None of these are significant changes imo. I do not know why “burning lilies”’is a change when they are presumably still almost functionally the same but I suppose you are right about misery being gone.Regardless, holy sanctuary really isn’t any different to afflatus misery. Same mechanic different name. The only difference really is that cure can be used at any time. I really don’t consider “movement” changes big game changers, moreover the job is lesser just from lacking a dot if dia really is gone and I hate that aquaveil and divine benison are the same button, sure they both did effectively the same thing but having three different mitigators was helpful. I don’t think lumping them together makes the skill anymore interesting, they could increase the barrier on divine benison and it would be the same shit
>>739757773The problem is they're used to the formula of 3 patches of expansion clean up, 2 patches of expansion build upIn this, they decided to do 5 patches of one arc, and it shows, because she's recycling her character development (her, and the Garleans), and the plot itself just seems to drag its feet heavily to stretch it out across 5 patches.
I personally associate fire with dots and lightning with massive damage spikes, so BLM was odd for me
>>739755734i want to touch y'shtola's fluffy hair
>>739757967In 1.0 lightning was the single target damage nuke, fire was AOE blizzard was heavy.
>>739754301Could put fairy skills & raw healing on a pseudo toggle with dissipation and maybe a shield equivalent of kardia and make it so you have to use both for unlocking debuffs
>>739757967fire dot sounds goodlightning causing temporary infrequent stuns would be cool but we can't have that in any meaningful wayice for either slowing or sliding
>>739757773hahahehethe entire next expansion is by the same writer btw
>>739757963Why bother making this arc 5 patches? Where they stretched for time? I know Dawntrail was delayed, but that shouldn't change the story leading up to it if the number of patches is the same. Is it the writer? I know they like to swap them around even when one happens to be doing good or making people happy. Like swapping off the Heavensward guy for the stormblood one for no reason.
>>739757773she's just a bit awkward :)
>>739758585The main HW writer was moved to FFXVI, the secondary one has also been inexplicably pseudoabsent since EW ended so people are expecting she was moved to a higher profile project for some time, but it could have been cancelled
>>739726754The high poly burger is a meme at this point.
>>739758723>The main HW writer was moved to FFXVIno wonder it was shit
>>739758794I would attribute that more to the director being the guy in charge of ARR and thus not involved with any of the smaller gameplay changes in Stormblood
>>739742462i think he does have a point that heavensward on 3.0 was significantly worse in mechanical respects on launch but he's also including a bunch of stuff like zurvan EX that weren't around at launchexpansions have this mind-rape effect where most people only really remember their respective highs or lows so 3.0 basically doesn't exist in the mind of the average heavensward glazer, and i only remember it myself because i was getting pissed at toddling off to go undo the sultana's death every three seconds and thordan being a wet fart of a plotline
>>739758581All of it? Is what I'm going through right now why people say the expansion was trash? I remember Stormblood being annoying because one writer was and good and the Ala Mhigan writer didn't know what they were doing. SHB ended up being cool with Ishikawa handling everything. So who is this guy they handed the reigns to?>>739758723Well they need to bring them back because I haven't been this annoyed since Ala Mhigo. I'm already pissed that the Twelve just go deleted from the story after doing the 24 man Raids.>>739758693I would have found this funny, but why would she be ignorant of something like this?
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what does hw contribute to the main plot anyway? would it not technically count as filler?you're hiding there because you're framed and are fixing their problem to pass the time, and midgardsormr does some weird shit about testing you without the crystal's helpsb gives you the actual war that forces alternate graha to do the time divergence shit, shb is the ascian outlining and ew closes the archeven dawntrail, which is getting memory holed, ultimately gives you the key for evercold and potentially future use
>>739759025I remember heavensward fondly because I am not a fucking normalfaggot that gives a single fuck about the story. HW was quite literally the peak of this games gameplay. SB was still good but not as good and SHB destroyed it beyond any recognition.
>>739759456>HW was quite literally the peak of this games gameplayanon 3.0 was ready to storm CBU3 with torches and pitchforks
>>739759381daichi hiroi wrote it, who also wrote a smattering of job quests, helped with ivalice's and bozja's writing (matsuno was still lead writer), and wrote the pandaemonium raid seriespandaemonium is very good, ivalice is good but bozja shit the bed, job quests are pretty bad across the whole after 2.X anyways with the major exception of dark knight and samurai, so it seems to be more that hiroi is not good at filler arcs. i suspect that the devs finally got tired of pigeon-holing certain characters or storylines into sidequests and raids and decided that instead of the foray zones y'shtola was teasing for the void that zero and her storyline would just get elevated to MSQ instead, and so ended up a filler arc, along with uplifting 3-trial series to MSQ instead of being sidequests
>>739758585>Why bother making this arc 5 patches?cause Endwalker ended with 6.0, unlike ShB, which ended in 5.3.So they felt the need to make one big arc spanning 5 patches, but forgot they really weren't up to it.
Is Krile's EW/DT hairstyle really still not available?
>>739759025>expansions have this mind-rape effect where most people only really remember their respective highs or lows so 3.0 basically doesn't exist in the mind of the average heavensward glazer, and i only remember it myself because i was getting pissed at toddling off to go undo the sultana's death every three seconds and thordan being a wet fart of a plotlineExpansions in general are treated like entire blocks. Unless doing so is no longer beneficial.The reality is that XIV is generally constantly on the move quality wise. Some expansions are worse than others, some patches are better than others. But people just tend to go "this is bad expansion this is good expansion"
>>739726621She's going to become a alcoholic
>>739759989We'll make Krile feel better. IYKYK
>>739759728>the foray zones y'shtola was teasing for the void that zero and her storyline would just get elevated to MSQ insteadWait so where are all our other void related bros? Where's Unkali (I can't spell it) and our dark elf?
>>739760118unukalhai and cylva are mentioned but are also why zero was invented, to have an MSQ equivalent of those two characters they can consistently point to and acknowledge exists
>>739728874post your miera
>>739760045>>739736479 these events are canon
>BLU up to level 110+Unlimited>BSM up to level 110+UnlimitedWhat would be the consequences of this, realistically?
>>739760228they'd lose their minigame aspect and just become a regular "use ability to do x amount of damage" job within the framework
>>739760228It's strange to me that evolved mode is the perfect moment to have both limited blu and a regular blu and they're not even considering it apparently
>>739760307>they'd lose their minigame aspectWhy do you retards always insist this?>and just become a regular "use ability to do x amount of damage" job within the frameworkThey already are.
>>739760228unironically never happening because there's no way to give them an "evolved" playstyle without from-ground-up redesigning them and all of their power and skill progression to be more in line with other jobs (complete skillset at level 50 and only upgrades from thereon), though that's sort of an extension of the "they're not designed to be anything but side content" argument
>>739760307>use ability to do x amount of damageThat's what BLU already is, and what BSM looks like it's going to be as well.
>>739760390>why do you retards always insist the thing that's being said by "lift up a job to current max level and let me raid with it"
>>739760390>Why do you retards always insist this?because it's true>They already are.blue mage abilities are NOT within the current job framework. neither will BST abilities probably be, nonnymouse
>>739760165Why can't they just do what they did with Graha and graft him in to the msq? Make the content mandatory to proceed. With Cylva's revamp it so you don't have to max each role. Is that why Gaius is perma afk? Because they won't make casuals do his raid series? I'm tired of these Garlean cocksuckers in the story right now. It would be so much easier if we forced Gaius to take leadership.
god, even the /say beast tribe quests in Dawntrail are soulless
>>739760580Dream bigger
>>739759439>introduces Varis>kills Lahabrea>The Ilberd subplot leads into Stormblood>(You) character developmentThat's about itStill more than DT unless spene or wumao are important in neverbold
>>739760661snae ling
>>739760507>>739760562>UHH ACTUALLY THEY'D HAVE TO DELETE ALL THAT CONTENT IF THEY ADDED AN EVOLVED MODE TOGGLE!Says who? Why? What makes you believe this?Also, raiding is literally the only thing current BLU can do. Why do limited job defenders not actually play the fucking thing they defend?>blue mage abilities are NOT within the current job frameworkYou do not fucking play BLU. You know what BLU does when you actually play it in the content it's allowed to do? Two-minute burst windows under Moon Flute.>but muh diamondback!Oh maaan I guess you're right, they could never ever put a 90% mit on a real job. Never. We could never ever see that happen. Oh man what are we gonna do????>neither will BST abilities probably beWe've seen their gameplay. They just do FFXI skillchains.
>>739760573well g'raha was totally pivotal to his expansion's plot and on top of that they only force-canonized his actual introduction with the crystal tower, they notably did not enforce play of omega and alexander who are just as necessary for his plot to workgaius is probably on permanent BRB status because he's garlean and most of his time alive after the praetorium has been spent as a shadownigger hunter, so the build-up done for whatever garlean expansion was coming after stormblood was basically for nothing and now after sorrows of werlyt they're left with a gaius that has no character purpose except picking up the pieces of garlemald, something he also says he didn't want to do in endwalker because they'd just try to make him king
>>739760573>Why can't they just do what they did with Graha and graft him in to the msq?They could. But they got a lot of backlash from mandatory Crystal Tower, so I guess they're scared.Imagine the game expecting you to actually do content. Horrible, innit.
>>739760228>fates have to actually be balanced around them existing, trials may be more balanced around them being a content option even if not for "real" clearsI mean it's probably feasible
>>739760228using anything but blue mage in dungeons would be considered griefing. possibly normal trials as well
>>739760709>what is 1+1? AND DON'T SAY 2! FUCK YOU IF YOU SAY 2 YOU PIECE OF SHIT FAKE FANSneed.
>>739760709>like five strawmen flying around in a post that's chimping out about a bevy of arguments nobody was making and a running implication of doing this a lotsneed
>>739760836>MY DELUSIONAL BELIEF IS JUST SELF EVIDENT OKAY?! DON'T FUCKING QUESTION IT!Fucking idiot. Post your BLU achievements right now.
>>739760228You'd suddenly run into a lot of people in roulettes spamming water cannon or not having their primal skills and it would suck ass
>>739760797>>739760912why are you assuming they'd be usable in roulettes
>>739760395>there's no way to give them an "evolved" playstyle without from-ground-up redesigning themLiterally just make a few slots in a spellsheet and you can compress them down to a few roles. >Basic 200 Potency single-target spell>Basic 200 Potency AoE spell>2-3 oGCDs>2-3 slots for "Shared" bigger spells>1-2 big nukes or some shit like Being Human or Apokalypsis Then just make it so they can switch that spellsheet between DPS, Healer, and Tank roles based on who they Aetherial Mimicry like a job stone.
>>739760797yea their crowd-control is so fucking unholy good it makes crowd-control actually relevant. unless you're in stormblood where crowd-control in general doesn't work for some reason. i still have not figured out why almost everything in stormblood is immune to being slept or otherwise CC'd
>>739760887>they'd have to delete all the limited content for BLU if they did that!Why?>WHOA DON'T FUCKING STRAWMAN ME!You do not play BLU. I know you don't because you're still putting forth the nonsense argument that it's about letting BLU access raids, when in reality raids are the one and only thing BLU CAN access.
>>739760974Because they wouldn't be unlimited if they were still limited in what they could/couldn't queue for?
>>739760979and this would make you happy? to take BLU from a job that actually has a modicum of its own identity and cramming it into a contemporary regular job raidfag mold?
>>739760974because "full" means "full" and that means access to everything which has an enormous wave of unprecedented difficulties and problems related to blue mage's power-progression, to wit the reason they're a limited job
>>739760573>>739760754honestly, i think at this point they should just have a pop up that says "The following cutscene/story requires context from X to fully understand." If you didn't do X well fuck you, be confused, here's characters from X content
>>739760709Dont you have to unlock abilities (including base kit important ones) in the first place making it entirely different? Other classes dont have that.2 minute burst moon flute silences you tho. Other classes dont.>raiding is all they can doDungeons, minigame arena, raid, overworld content. They can add more sure but isnt that most of the game already? They should expand minigame arena though.
>>739761049Are you just pretending you haven't seen the evolved mode previews and design intent, or what?
>>739760979i highly doubt they'd be allowed to fill in any role even under evolved, that shit would be caster DPS on lock even if they can stretch the definition by most of their spells being oriented to support and defense when they're not oriented to pure damage or self-healing
>>739761049If I can still mix and match my job hotbar, and if the only concession is that it'd need to be narrowed down to fit whatever gay "Evolved" barrier is in the way, I'd be happy to at least play it in content than to not have it exist outside of an extremely small and borderline pointless minigame. Bringing a juiced-up Mortal Flame into Savage would be great.
>>739761062Oh yeah, I'm fully on board with that. Take Gaia as an example.If they wanna add her to the MSQ, just have it be>Hey, you're Gaia, I know you from [EDEN STORYLINE], how are you doing?If you did Eden.And if not, Ryne just goes:>"This is Gaia, and I met her during [EDEN STORYLINE]"
>>739761075yea the fact that blue mage has a non-standard skill progression method alone means it is just never being uplifted, but it's fun to theorize. unless you're the guy you're replying to. i don't think he's having fun but he keeps alluding to starting arguments about this a lot
>>739761098Why not just ask for BLU animations for Pictomancer or Black Mage at that point?
>>739761213So you ARE pretending you haven't seen the evolved mode previews and design intent.
>>739760745>>739760754They could just ignore the backlash. These people will go where ever the main quest icon tells them to go. So just have the giant main quest icon in the top left take march them towards that content instead. They wouldn't even know it wasn't msq unless you told them.Gaius not wanting to fix Garlemald is all the more reason why we should make him. Have the guy who feels like he failed his nation, king, and family still forced to take up the mantel. He who was first hand experience with the ups and downs on both sides of the border. You could have his own personal band that trained up, blind loyalists, and dissenters who think he's a traitor.
>>739761153not even the latter half, have it just be assumed the player has retroactively done the storyline.
>>739736420It's the case with almost every important character introduced or re-introduced in X.4 patches that are important to the next expansion, Yda, Emet got the same treatment, she got turned into Lyse while his first cutscenes introduced him as a shitty joker/moustache-twirling villain. To an extend you could say that Fandaniel did the same since he stopped most of his Asahi impersonations with Endwalker.
>>739761252Im not that anon, but what are the actual changes? I saw some pictures and i know they are compiling 1 2 3 into 1 button. Whats the deal?
>>739761075>evolved BLU unlocks at level 50 after clearing its job questsWhoa... how did... w-what.... how is this... possible....? They.... what.... no.... what the... this was supposed to be.... impossible.........>>739761183Waiting on those BLU achievements.
Look, they're never going to do this because it'd be a bunch of work for little gain and they have plenty on their hands.But if I were in YoshiP's seat (as someone who loves both limited jobs conceptually), I'd wait for Reborn to be shitcanned (as we expect it will in 9.0), then reuse the coding base to create a similar system where BLU and BST can switch between a more normal not game breaking version that is more what you're used to from regular jobs, but also back to their limited versions that can explode things solo.I would add a prerequisite that every spell has to be learned and every beast has to tamed so that when they make the "unlimited version", they can design it with the assumption that they can use any spell or beast in that design they wish, without "well, I didn't unlock that so now I'm griefing my party."
>>739761130My personal take would be Aetherial Mimicry could be more like a stance-switch where you're not exactly being a proper tank or a proper healer, but you can lick your healer or your tank to temporarily tag in non-DPS skills and with enough finesse you can do things like help with huge raidwides or have extremely punchy responses to general mechanics like Cold Fog/Chelonian Gate. Rather than needing to build an entire bar that's just built to be a tank's bar or a healer's bar, you just have a Tank, Healer, and DPS bar, and you switch between them as needed in combat.
>>739761361>evolved BLU unlocks at level 50that doesn't even pretend to acknowledge the problem, it sidesteps it entirely!
Would it fucking kill them to compress the fucking game files?>Over 120GBs by 8.0What the FUCK
>>739761360They're emphasizing job identity and giving everything unique skills, like DRG getting its PVP limit break with a 90% damage reduction as long as you're in the air.
>>739761062This would be great. Genshin sucks and won't let you play old/missed content. But they at least give a little pop up liked you suggested or let you know when other content is needed to fill context.
>>739761378pretty much draw & junction from gunbreaker PvP, could work>>739761423this is over ten years of PS3 and PS4 grade game my niggy
>>739761361Blues identity is doing a collectathon for skills. Thats the majority of the fun. Im not even talking about """evolved""".What are you even having a schizoid meltdown over?
>>739761416Here's where you reveal you haven't even done the BLU job quests.>>739761494>Im not even talking about """evolved""".The conversation you've inserted yourself into is.>Blues identity is doing a collectathon for skills.Pic related. The job quests direct you to collect specific skills already.
>>739761436Oh thats cool. Doesn't really help that schizoid anons argument at all. Hopefully its cool in game tho
>>739761478It's just so fucking insane how we're in 2026 and optimization seems to be an ancient lost technology.Look at games like Factorio and the code basically looks like black magic, all of it working in tandem to deliver a solid experience before you need to upgrade your specs.And now it's on the fucking switch. Good god.
>>739736479MASHINGTATERS
>>739756047So basically its exactly like current whm except misery gets turned to a gcd on a cooldown with 2 charges and Dia is removed. Holy sanctuary STILL isn’t a gainOh and regen gets removed and presumably medica 2/3 secondary effect as well meaning you only get regens under a “buff” can’t wait for them to do that to astro too. This is just gonna homogenize healers even more.
>>739761604FF14 doesn't get any money to budget towards anything
>>739761153>>739761468or just use the fucking unending journey for tl;dr's for old content now that i think about it. Surprised both Omega and Alexander aren't required already since they're vital to G'raha teleporting.
>>739761374>I would add a prerequisite that every spell has to be learned and every beast has to tamed so that when they make the "unlimited version", they can design it with the assumption that they can use any spell or beast in that design they wish, without "well, I didn't unlock that so now I'm griefing my party."Honestly that doesn't even sound bad. If you really want to play these weird jobs that have weird mechanics and weird attributes, asking a required "You need to be the obsessive weirdo who would learn the entire spellbook/capture every single monster before you can bring this into actual content" is asking the bare basics. I'd even go so far as to retain the same Whalaqee Totem limitations and the Masked Carnivale progression requirements before you can properly just jump into a duty and say "Hey guys I've never played BLU before lmao??".
>>739761558Still missing tons of skills and the enjoyment is hunting them not doing a quest line for them. The identity isnt doing a quest and innately having the skills.What would evolved even change in yoir argument?
>>739761360all jobs are getting reworks both big and small, paladin doesn't change much but it gains a counterattack tied to holy sheltron being used at certain times (the counterattack is fucking meaty too, around 1000 potency), makes intervene (gap-closer) usable on party members and also grants cover when using it on party members, does some button consolidation like making holy spirit and clemency the same button (damage on enemies, healing on yourself and party members)dragoon gets a hell of a lot of its moveset shifted around and regains a jump that forces it to move to target, loses true north, and has hard positional requirements to get wyrmwind thrustalso, across the board, all personal buffs like lance charge or power surge (gained from using a certain GCD skill or a skill itself) and all party buffs like battle litany or chain stratagem are dying. gone. no more. buffs and their corresponding buff stacking meta are gone
>>739761682>make alexander mandatory>raid roulette is now 90% refurbisher
>>739761676Yeah, I know. Square Enix is a dogshit boomer company run by retarded out of touch faggots who don't get any attention from their grandchildren.
>>739761693>What would evolved even change in yoir argument?Have a required set of skills from the job quests as a foundation for evolved mode, allowing BLU to actually play the game.>and the enjoyment is hunting them not doing a quest line for them. The identity isnt doing a quest and innately having the skills.Well, those quests already exist. You should tell Yoshi-P.
>>739761494we've had on and off meltdowns about blue mage being a limited job since its introduction in stormblood>>739761638i fail to see how that's going to homogenize healers, its main effect is brute-forcing white mage into using GCD heals
>>739761763That sounds great!
>>739761827>job whose legacy theme and current design is around getting new spells>lock them into a dedicated skill-set at level 50 and have to do mental gymnastics, or worse for this kind of theme, purely name and visual changes, to give them upgrades and keep them on GCD power paritynot gonna lie chiefevolved BLU sounds antithetical to BLU
>>739761827"Those quests" and its not even 10% of the spell list.You suck at this!
>>739760797The unlimited version could have stuff that's not as overbearing (and it's really not like BLU is that fucking broken in the first place. It's overblown for anything but trials. A lot of fights are much harder with a full BLU team than a varied team).>>739760912This has always been a weird argument because you can also be lacking critical abilities on other jobs if you just skip your job quests. Or if you don't even get your job stone in the first place. Or you could be Lord Darkmatter and just spam Rage of Halone because you don't know how to play your job. People being incompetent and not knowing how a job functions is not an excuse to prevent others from playing it.
>>739762020>>739761987>it's not BLU if it doesn't have a million bajillion spells!Damn, someone tell the entire rest of the series.
>>739761987>purely name and visual changesBlue Mage already does this. How many of their spells are 220 potency and *effect mob is immune to*You could argue Blue Mage is already a beta for the job action skins thing coming next expansion
>>739761564Hes not actually giving you the entire story just telling you what one skill does. He also doesn’t talk about the finer details or the other jobs they showed
>>739762046it's the fact that BLU gets skills outside of job quests that makes job quests a sticky argument
>>739761987That's literally Zenos in a dress.
>>739761604Factorio is a unique case in the entire industry in many aspects, you can't really compare it to anything in that regard.
>>739762109The entire rest of the series does what I said actually
>>739762197zenos is a pretty boy, kind of a lateral move to give him tits and a vagina and junk, really
>>739761848>healing gcd refunds damageYou aren’t changing anythingWhite mage already did this. Damage will still come in a pattern. All they did was remove buttons like assize, Dia and regen to make you into a glare mage even harder.Call me when holy sanctuary is confirmed to be an actual dps gain.
>>739749119It's going to be the exact same as the game is right now. 1 or 2 buttons that are cute and people can kinda strategize around, otherwise just damage rotations as classes for the next ten years.
>>739762298healing gcds *that perform actual healing* refund damage, can't farm holy sanctuary during off-time
>>739762046I'm not saying it's an argument for why BLU shouldn't be allowed to queue for other content, I'm answering the question of "what would happen". The issue with BLU is you'd have people like >>739760797 saying online that it's super broken, so you'd get idiots thinking that they should just play BLU without even unlocking the spells, and you'd have a ton of shit BLUs that don't even have the capacity to do real damage.I'm fully with you that shit people are gonna be shit no matter what, BLU would just be another enabler. Anytime I do an all-BLU 24-man I see people leeching that don't have any real spells, it makes me sick to my stomach as a BLU enjoyer
>>739761692Yeah, you avoid having restraints on how you design the 'unlimited' version, and simultaneously make both of them jobs you kind of have to 'earn', giving people a reason to pursue completion of the job with a reward of broader usage afterward.>I'd even go so far as to retain the same Whalaqee Totem limitations and the Masked Carnivale progression requirements before you can properly just jump into a duty and say "Hey guys I've never played BLU before lmao??".Heard.
>>739762194No, because the argument is>You could get a fucking retard in your party that's missing critical abilitiesbut you can get that with literally fucking any job if the person just neglected to do their job quests. You used to be able to get tanks that didn't have Provoke back when it was a cross-class skill. You can also get a lazy dumbass that just does their basic 123 (or worse). But that doesn't mean that whatever job they're playing should be barred from existing.I used to defend the concept of a limited job but over time I've flipped and realized there's literally no good argument for why it should be a system. It just makes the job that's limited suck for literally no reason. Blue Mage isn't even that good. It's like saying White Mage shouldn't be allowed to do normal dungeons because Holy is so fucking busted overpowered. Why can't Blue Mage do Deep Dungeons? Why can't it do Eureka and Bozja (where a lot of its overpowered abilities are ALREADY USABLE BY OTHER JOBS). There's LITERALLY no reason other than laziness.
>>739762356YOU MEAN TO TELL ME I'M STILL GOING TO BE PRESSING BUTTONS??????
>>739762247You may want to look up the spell lists for other games, because they're not very big at all. And if you want to insist that having job quests direct you to spells doesn't count as learning spells, I'm sure you'll also insist that the Whalaqee totems don't count either. So I guess the BLU we have already isn't faithful, huh?
>>739761604It's fault of companies trying overusing stronger harder as crutch. So many PC ports used to be garbage and unoptmized because they weren't a priority. But hardware got strong enough to cover for it. And now devs are just coasting off that every gen. They brute force all these features and graphics before making sure it fits neatly into the suitcase. And if they receive a larger and stronger case? They'll over fill that one until bursts. And so on and so forth. It pisses me off because the PS4 and PS5 were pretty strong pieces of hardware. But most devs won't interface with it and work within their means. Reminder that 60 fps was basically a standard back on the PS2. But if anything doesn't run well today then it just means you're broke and can't afford a new graphics card. There's no reason why any modern games should be struggling . If you make a game and the hardware is struggling to run it then you made the game wrong from the start. Hardware is way too strong now.
>>739762453aren't whalaqee totems dedicated to "role specific" spells
>>739762453You are genuinely so stupid and atp probably ragebaiting.
>>739762268>femroefag admits he wants to fuck menlol, keeping this one
I didn't bother with BLU, but can't BLU tank, heal and dps freely?If so, I don't see how they can make that a regularly usable job. No other job transcends all 3 roles. Not even 2.
>>739762435I'll settle for being able to use BLU with trusts.
>>739762384Yes and its still a damage refund so how does this change anything? How is a damage refund a “reward”? Its still the same end result the goal is to glare as much as possible thats why actual healing (like it currently works with misery) rewards you with an EXACT refund of the glares you didn’t get to cast. Glare not having a cast time now is also just simplifying things even further thats why they removed the technicalities of afflatus being movement utility.You cannot deny any of this.Evolved whm gas a similar amount of buttons as 2.0 whm. 2.0 whm is much funner to play and it has no ogcd heals.
>>739762540fool that you are, that's an advocation for fem-zenos or cuntboy zenos, not an advocation for drilling zenos as he is
>>739762510Nope, only three of them are.>>739762523Any arguments? Is the BLU we already have faithful or not? You can't seem to decide.
>>739762435>but you can get that with literally fucking any job if the person just neglected to do their job quests.Yeah. I still get people who use AoEs for mob packs. I expect literally nothing from people, so why restrict the game because of them?
I wish I didnt have to deal damage as a healer I just want to turn my brain off
>>739762550BLU can't heal very freely (needs to copy a healer for its healing spells to be worth a pinch of shit) but does have white wind, that sends its current HP out as healing in a radius, commonly used as a full-party benediction with snapshotting
>>739762436That's absolutely right. You're going to be pressing the same exact buttons you've been pressing in the same exact way you've been pressing them since ARR.Only the cattle that are XIV players dare to defend shit like that.
>>739762627>only three of themonly all of them, closest to not being so are transfusion and angel whisper
>>739762607>i don't just want to fuck zenos, i want to fuck buck angel zenos!
>>739762690I wish you had to deal damage in order to be able to heal aside from a few oGDCs.
>>739762550Tanking as a blue mage is a shitshow but it does have all the tools it needs. Healing is better, but to either tank or heal you need to dedicate spell slots that could've been used to do way better damage, plus you'd be giving up your mimicry which is a free 20% to crit and direct hit
>>739762690>only cast glare/broil/dosis/malefic currentlyBoy i got news for you, healer is perfect for you atm if you want to turn your brain off and its gonna be even more perfect when all those spells become instacast with evolved mode.
>>739762832buck angel is, of course, the only FTM to ever exist, as is common knowledge, but no genderbend and the male equivalent of futa are not FTM
>>739762829>only all of themNo? The fuck? The only role specific spells there are Matra Magic, Dragon Force, and Angel's Snack. Why are you arguing about a job you don't play?
>>739726621I don't want to learn hard content.Is there a merc discord server or something so I can be carried?
>>739762936so none of them have boosted effects when you use them under their according role and they aren't designed around their role
>>739762550It looks like it, but in reality, it's bad at both with some really strong spells in both categories to help it remain par. Tanking requires a whole litany of mits that hardly matter because you don't have tank gear and you have a caster DPS's health bar. Using things like Diamondback to mit tankbusters by 90% is cute, but burning 3K mana and staying completely still for 10 seconds puts it behind regular tanks who would use a mit in preparation and still be able to DPS. Healing is not as bad, but definitely still requires some extremely awkward responses. Angel Whisper is a res with a fucking 5-minute cooldown. White Wind is an extremely strong group heal because it mass-heals your party for your present HP, but you can't use that to stamp out a raidwide 1HP spell or to heal out when you are low. Angel's Snack is cool, but has a 1 minute cooldown. It's only really good proper at doing damage, but it has other buttons to help it do other things instead of just eating damage. There's also plenty of anti-synergies with certain skills where you want one condition to happen but a different skill flounders for that condition.
>>739763041The three I listed do. The others do not. Again, why are you arguing about a job you don't play? Why can't you even bother to look at the skills on a fucking wiki or something before you spew bullshit?
>>739762702It sounds cool. Would that kind of stuff be a problem in regular party content?>>739762863So you kind of specialize before the battle, rather than being able to just switch on the fly mid-combat? I find it hard to imagine they'd give you that freedom if it were a regular job, though.Having said that, I've said for a long time I'd like a Clive-like job in FF14 that can switch between more tanky and healy on a whim depending on what primal they channel into themselves. I don't think it'd ever happen in XIV, but I would enjoy it.
>>739760580>>739760661>>739760707Uhm ala my nigga
>>739762627You get those by doing things that aren't quests. I'm done with responding to a sub iq groin.
>lMy jobs are Dragoon,Red Mage, Paladin and White Magewhat that makes me?
>>739762550The unlimited form could easily just be locked to DPS. The tank and healer forms of it are fun but really janky, shitty, and objectively worse than somebody actually doing the role. It's part of why the argument about how strong BLU is clearly comes from people that have never meaningfully played it. BLU kind of sucks at anything but DPS, and even then its kind of just a gimmick (all of its "OP" stuff doesn't work on actual bosses and it mostly just has funny utility like Diamondback).Half of BLU's utility abilities exist solely to make it so that eight of the fuckers can clear a raid, and even then they do a worse job of it than a balanced party. BLU is given overtuned damage numbers on purpose (kind of) but that's just a matter of adjustment and it would be perfectly in line with other DPS.>>739762829>>739762510The Whalaqee totems are just "this is an iconic spell and would be fun but no mob uses it and we can't really think of a way to put it in."There are plenty of role-specific or essential abilities that are obtained from mobs, and a lot of the totems are just random abilities (some of which aren't even good and will literally never be used by anybody). It's not actually a devoted system to ensure the player has essential spells, though it could easily become one if the job was unlimited.
>>739763157>So you kind of specialize before the battle, rather than being able to just switch on the fly mid-combat?You just need to cast aetheric mimicry on someone to change that stance, so as long as you have a tank/healer/DPS in your party you can switch freely. But your spell loadout can't be changed mid-battle, so the answer to your question is yes.
>>739763195Imagine if you learned a spell just by reaching a certain level? On BLUE MAGE?! AAAAIIIIIYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>739727097BasedFF trannies getting dunked on is always the moral choice.
>>739763157>Would that kind of stuff be a problem in regular party content?The only issues would be bizarre balance-related ones. BLU could be a perfectly fine DPS that either excels in certain raids or does fucking nothing if you're missing any seriously important spells, but having access to things like White Wind already can provide burst healing that's unmatchable by regular healers, and certain other spells like Mortal Flame have attributes no other DPS could feasibly have access to. I don't really care much about balance, but I do care about having to deal with inane bitching if I get queued into a duty and a BLU shows up and the entire raid plan needs to change on the fly to accommodate them.
>>739763258You want to be a credit to the team. Depending on if you hide your shield on PLD, you also think you're the main character of any raid you go into, doubly so if your RDM weapon glows in a color that isn't red.
Just please, please tighten the item syncs so old content isn't comical for sprouts or people who get older stuff
>>739763258>Dragoonbased>Red Magebased>Paladinpretty based>White Magesissy mode
>>739763776They could tweak it whenever they want to make it so all roulettes force-queue min ilvl if it's content from a prior expansion. But I fear they won't do it for fear of "making the game harder".I just wish one person on the dev team would queue for a fucking trial roulette, get some raped content like Shiva or Thordan, and just think for 5 seconds about how it feels as a new player to have these cool bosses die in 1 minute 20 seconds
>>739763776I was really glad they rescaled Endsinger because by the time we were deep into Endwalker, it was sad how quickly she went down.I think right now, it's only her and Shinryu that really have some amount of teeth.
>>739763776No. Lighten the item syncsand let me beat up Rhytatin Ass Arvina with an 8-man again
>>739763698>>739764002its jover, is all truth also i asked people what class to use to learn healing and they say white mage, so I’m rolling with it
>>739764083QE can rack up kills and is the closest thing to a mandatory heal lb in the MSQ, given that the absolute dominion sequence is far, far easier for healers.hades needs a boost. i haven't seen him try to cast black cauldron in years
>>739763258>white magedis nigga ZESTY.
>>739741913Absolutely delusional.Heavensward was great. The story was mostly good, the jobs were at their peak for many of them, while gordias was fucked the other two tiers are still some of the best raids in the game. The only real problems were some jobs were fucked, diadem was half baked, some of the gatherers and crafting functions were pure RNG to succeed, and also that pet rts that I can't remember.Dawntrail ended up feeling more of a raidlog expansion especially since novelty contet barely lasted a month before it died.
Help me decide a tank and healer job to play. I keep boucing all 8 and never settle.
>>739764283yeah I don't get the HW revisionist nigger in every one of these threads trying to shit on itHeavensward was peak
>>739764140I did hear white mage was the easiest healer job, so it makes sense.did you try the others?
>>739764367WAR for both
>>739764005>"In Evolved mode you'll be able to start learning your job at level 50!">The content you can use your job in from level 50-90 does no damage to tanks, requires no healing, and dies so quickly that you don't get to see any interesting mechanics they might've once had
>>739764250>QE can rack up killsIs she still somewhat difficult in 7.5? Would've thought scaling had made her a big joke.>hades needs a boost. i haven't seen him try to cast black cauldron in yearsThat he does. He can still hit when someone isn't paying attention, but he dies pretty quickly.Thordan has been a joke for a long time, but I'd like him not to be. It's sad how easily he gets demolished.
>>739764424In some regards, it wasIn others it fucking sucked
>>739764367paladin offers a unique playstyle and the most carry potential, like being able to save people from petrificationwarrior is so good that there's no reason to not play it
>>739764521absolute authority will still take out a geared character as it has multiple stuns in addition to vulns. if you fail one mechanic you'll probably get hit by the rest
>>739764481probably evolved is also another attempt at curbing ever-climbing power levels since the stat squish done in endwalker has pretty much already been negated, "you have everything at 50" gives them much closer supervision over what job is at what power level at which level range
game fell off once the userbase went from older millennials who played mmos in their formative years and had final fantasy games on their SNES to overwhelming hot-topic second life sexual deviant cringelords with no past FF experience and had no idea who kefka was and why that savage tier was the best one.
>>739764767I've been hoping and praying that's the case, but it doesn't give me confidence that (from what I can remember) they haven't acknowledged that old content scaling is even a problem that needs fixing.When the new-age relic weapon grinds boil down to "do roulettes for light/paste, then do roulettes for tomes", it REALLY highlights how fucking boring roulettes are. You can count the duties that pose any sort of challenge on one hand. As the game is an MMO, it'd be nice if there were some moments where it felt like you had to teach new players something. But instead, everything in the game is just "pull immediately and get it over with".
>>739764937old goodnew badhate zoomerspunch wife
>>739765052>punch wifeOnly if she misbehaves. Don't hit your wife for no reason.
>>739764456not yet, want to reach 60 and try content around that lever before trying another one
4 hours until Manasvin boat. And I don’t need that. I need red boarfish from the first zone but spectrals won’t pop. Jfc.
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>>739764937>>739765147Correct
>>739764670Ha. Hilarious.
>>739764937LARP.XIV, and all MMOs (even ye olde classic ones) have always been breeding grounds for trannies and proto-trannies
how are they going to cram AST's 30 buttons into evolved's 16? >malefic combust gravity - 3>benefic/helios + aspected versions + revive - 8>draw/play/minor arcana - 11>CO CU ED ES CI exaltation macrocosmos - 18>divination synastry horoscope neutral sect lightspeed - 23 you can combo draw into play I guess but I don't see how they cut all the various buffs and setups without gimping the class identity, not to mention needing to add another button or two for royal road/card modifiers if they want cards to be fun again.
>>739765441people purity-testing social games is really funny, quickest way to find out there's no silent majority that agrees with a person no matter what their issue is
>>739765521AST might be one of those that gets completely remade to accommodate the new system like BRD was
I ended up not liking NIN because of the mudra system and the "press every button in ten seconds than just do 1-2-3 for the next minute" playstyle. How chaotic is VPR compared to that?
>>739765558NTA but how do you mean?
>>739726621Most powerful scion
>>739765917Get a new bit, Jacky. Bot ass comment.
Why was she such a big meanie to Krile and my WoL
>>739726621ready set goand there ain't no stoppin'
>>739765807people can smell when you're proselytizing or virtue signaling, or worse, trying to treat a social game like it's twitter and expecting to bully your way into acceptance; you either conform, hide your power level, or fuck off
>>739765521>Benefic, Helios, both are Aspected by default>Draw, turns into Play>Royal Road>Minor Arcana>Malefic combos into Gravity>Combust (only remaining because...)>Time Dilation, used for extending regens and card buffs>Wheel of Fortune>Earthly Star>Macrocosmos>Lightspeed (upgrades to Haste) now a single target buff castable on anyone>Celestial Intersection>Ascend>Essential DignityThat's everything that matters and there's still room.
>>739730010glub glub glub glub glub glub glub
Estinien is an absolute gigachad, is he good in EW since he's officially part of the team?Also what job role should I pickup augmented bozjan gear for, I want to do F2P DRS but fuck if I know what role people don't play. I assumed it would be something like Aiming or Healing...
>>739765441wrong, i didnt meet any of those people playing UO in 1999 or WoW in 2004; but granted since im not an expert on trannies like you are I was probably better insulated from these subcultures before 2016
Femlala of darkness.
>>739766078>>739731037less crusty 1080p version for you sis
>>739766197wdym WoW is where futanari porn got its first foothold in the west>>739766248pic rel
>>739766197I think you spent less time paying attention.Your mention of WoW is especially funny since it's ground zero for online fetish trannyism with its futa horsecock nonsense.
wasted potentialthe environment is pretty too. imagine if tural was filled with dangerous beasts and the people were dangerous to match
>>739766628Then Tural would be Eorzea's Baltimore.
>>739766310I noticed none of the scions are really camp mothers.
>>739766819my wol is making ameliance a mother againdoes that count
>>739726754Sharlayan diets typically constitute nutritionally complete meals made to dodge the whole process of eating. A loaf of Archon rye bread is made with ground fish and spinach. The Last Stand managing to make something good out of it is a testament.
>>739767126Bot post?
>>739767217nop
>>739766706One minute gap on this one.
>>739767217no I just think xiv's food items have funny lore
>>7397661972016 is when you came to 4chan from r/TheDonald and your histrionic obsession with trannies and evil leftoids overtook your entire mind. You're the same kind of person to refer to a black character in a video game pre-2016 as based but any black character in a video game post-2016 as woke DEI etc.
>>739766179i miss when he used the helmeti missed when anyone actually used helmets
>>739766179>is he good in EW since he's officially part of the team?Not as big of a presence but still an important figure. He gets a nice capstone on his character development in the last region where he gets a chance to essentially refute his old beliefs.>Also what job role should I pickup augmented bozjan gear forReally depends on the group you're running in and what roles they need filled. No one is gonna say no to teammate revives or healing gear, but if you're kind of a shitter then keeping yourself alive isn't going to be complained about either.
>>739766086nobody had to hide their power level in online games 20 years ago because the space was much more nichethe biggest ideological divide was between people who thought cheating was funny and people who didnt
>>739767116Hey wait my WoL is also doing that.
Clean this trash up
>>739767901getting right on it
Fire kate fire hiroi
>>739767404Estinien specifically doesn't use Trueblood's helmet because it looks like dog shit, which is really awful because it had strong concept art that the modelers didn't follow through on
wind kate wind hiroi
ice kate ice hiroi
>mfw I will not be playing Evolved mode (baby poopoo diaper tier shit) and will instead be a Reborn chad
>>739768876>mfw I'll be playing exclusively evolved and complaining (daily) about a lack of buttons
>>739768876>>739769031>mfw I will be playing whichever one is more fun, regardless of difficulty or button count.
>>739768876I think you just cracked your egg hon!
