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You don't understand
>Obducts 12 year old to conduct blood sacrifice
Im only doing what's necessary
>Starts an illegal war of aggression and attacks a school building
For a better future
>Turns people into mindless demon monsters
Im doing it for a greater good
>Turns herself into a demon god in an attempt to mock gods perfect creation
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>obducts
Nigger you're retarded
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yes she's retarded
that why I love killing her
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3H is a bad game
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>obducts
Dumbass nigga
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I just finished the game today and overall i liked it but it did have a kot of problems and left me with a bunch of questions
Was it ever explicitly stated what her ideals even are?
I picked the Blue Lions and she just shows up in the underground attacks the church and then blames all the problems the empire has on them and uses it to justify an invasion on the alliance and the kingdom but they keep on talking about how she only wants the best and wants to change the world
Its also never said what she did to Rhea and what Byleth is exactly or why the two saints have to remain anonymous
Do the other routes go into more detail on this?
I really don't want to replay it again right away it was a bit of a slog to get though at times when youre out of combat
A missiln could take 4 turns of yoi know how to abuse teleport and brave weapons and then you sit through 30 min of support dialogue and cutscense or monestary business
It really soured my experience
It took me close to 90h to finish it on my first playthrough because I took the time to do as much ws i could but most of it was just filler
Awakening my first fe game took me around 20 or 30h when i first played it
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>>739756224
She’s a generic “nobles bad egalitarianism” cliche
The two saints can no longer maintain their human form so they hang out in remote locations as dragons
Not explicitly
Yeah there’s a lot of filler
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why is glasses girl from the FW trailer wearing such fucked up shoes, bruh
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>>739756656
>nobles bad egalitarianism
sounds reasonable but doesn't justify a war on the entire world
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>>739757498
Yeah that’s why she’s the villain. All the other characters do the same reforms without the demonic beasts
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>>739757443
>boot sandals
lol someone rammed in their foot fetish nonsensically
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>>739757443
Glasses girl sex
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>>739755432
yeah she's pretty based.
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Why os the deployment limit so low here?
I haven't played that many fe games but in awakening and 6 you had 16 or 18 units available at the endgame
Here the max limit is 12
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>>739760798
12 units has been standard deployment limit since like the DS era. You definitely weren't getting use out of all 16 or so of those units in those endgame maps.
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>>739761271
I just looked up some latehame maps for binding blade and awakening and on avarage you have around 15 units available
You definitely dont need that many but you can use them and for a game like Fire Emblem where permadeath is a stable feature rewarding the player for keeping that many units alive is a good thing overall and gives the game more depth to fully master imo
I haven't played every FE game only the gba games and Awakening and 3 houses
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>>739756224
Just play Engage.
I fucking hated the digital dollhouse that was 3HRT. It's a game for women
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>>739755573
>3H is bad because the villain does evil things
This explains why IS wrote Engage to read like a toddlers picture book
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>>739756656
>“nobles bad egalitarianism”
Yes
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>>739764059
>Posts a gold digger who wants noble money
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>>739756224
>Was it ever explicitly stated what her ideals even are?
She legit just wants to rule the world, because she felt weak when she was experimented upon.
That's it. Everything else she says is a manipulative lie to try and get people to side with her. She doesn't care about elevating common folk, she just wants to bring other nobles down below her so she can rule them all. And if she can't rule you, she'll kill you.
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>>739763460
You really BTFOd that strawman bro congrats
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>>739763460
I still can't get over how most villains didn't have their motivations explained until they were dying on the floor.
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>>739764445
I don't like using Hegemon Edelgard as the representative to her ideals. It's the same bullshit as using CF or SS final chapters as Rhea's ideals. The one where she's was driven legally insane by Edelgard. I think the parlay in BL is probably the closest we get to a true Edelgard mask off.

>Dimitri: I will get straight to the point. Why did you start this war? There had to be a way to change things in your territory without the need for so many senseless casualties.

>Edelgard: It may be hard to believe, but this is the way that leads to the fewest casualties in the end. Don't you see?

>Dimitri: How could I? Countless people have already lost their lives in this conflict.

>Edelgard: The longer we took to revolt, the more victims this crooked world would have claimed. I weighed the victims of war against the victims of the world as it is now, and I chose the former. I believe that I have chosen the best path, the only path.

>Dimitri: Even after seeing the faces of those who have suffered the ravages of war, you would still force them to throw their lives away for the future? You are obsessively devoted to this war and deaf to the screams of its victims. You cannot change the cycle of the strong dominating the weak with a method like that.

>Edelgard: You're wrong. That very cycle is exactly what I have devoted my life and my power to destroying. If after all of this you believe the weak will still be weak, that is only because they are too used to relying on others instead of on themselves.

It's consistent with her backstory but it also reveals her hypocrisy. Edelgard claims she's doing this for the common man but the common man didn't ask for this. And if they die, Edelgard says they just weren't strong enough to deserve the new world. Edelgard didn't change anything, she just puts herself on top of the totem pole. And Dimitri calls out the hypocrisy too.
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>>739757443
toes
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>>739765132
>It's the same bullshit as using CF
No, because CF was out of character for everyone.
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>>739755432
>>illegal war of aggression
now that i think about it, what does a legal war of aggression look like?
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>>739765075
You're right and that's still crazy to me but there's other things that were more baffling

>Zephia: We can't get Veyle to be obedient. She's resisting the magic to make her evil now.

>Sombron: Fine. Take this crown. It will amplify her evil urges and kill the weak Veyle forever

>Zephia:... what? How long have you had this? Why didn't you use this to enslave Veyle the minute you woke up? Why didn't you use this on your children during the war 1000 years ago? At least the ones you entrusted Emblem Rings to. You were betrayed and killed by one of your own children, why would you only just now pull this crown out of your ass?
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>>739765654
The one where you scrub away all of your war crimes and depict them as necessary tactics to bring peace against the amoral savages with no concept of good or peace. Honestly their being slaughtered by the thousands was best for them really.
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>>739765675
I can give him the benefit of the doubt that he only considered it after getting betrayed by Alear. Maybe Alear was the first betrayal he got?
But not slapping it on Veyle after he woke up, when she was his main Corrupted factory, was stupid.
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>>739765797
>Maybe Alear was the first betrayal he got?
I mean technically speaking he considers the Zero Emblem leaving as a betrayal. And that's why he started a global war looking for it instead of just putting a want ad in the newspaper. Because he thinks the Zero Emblem only respects strength and so would come back if he acts like an edgy loner. And then when that didn't work he started another global war, to fuck off from Elyos and look for his missing Ring elsewhere. This is a script that was written by a very normal person and reviewed and acted out by very normal people.
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>>739766289
>he says he's leaving
>argues that he should be let to leave (and everyone ignores the dialogue that it apparently destroys elyos to do that)
>but if you lose, he apparently stays in the Bad End for some reason
>also goes and brainwashes Veyle again
I don't get it.
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>>739766550
What's doubly baffling is how many people even know Time To Fuck ending even exists? It's functionally an Easter Egg. I'm not going to say Engage doesn't have effort put into it. I will die on the hill that the gameplay to narrative scenarios is probably the best in modern FE. My problem is that the actual scenarios is just so fucking dumb. It's like getting Shakespeare to write Rick and Morty
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These niggas play FE for the story lmfao
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>>739766983
>Veyle got a unique model in that ending
>it's clearly older, taller, has more makeup, etc.
>it only exists in that bad ending
There's a random time travel element a few levels before, so I wonder if we were ever meant to also go to the future?
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>>739767005
>Most popular FE of all time is known for the story
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*ribbit*
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>>739767106
And it's shit
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>>739767306
*peak
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>>739767106
More like known for being Persona-lite and tourist central
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>>739755432
based
she did nothing wrong
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>>739767353
>He thinks people don't like persona for the story and characters
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>>739765654
When country A and B are at war and country C gets invaded by Country B because C was allies with A but didn't join the war yet could count as an legal or justified war of aggression because it would pnly be a matter of time until they attacked and you could knock them out before they become a threat and open up a new front
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>>739765762
>"The one where you scrub away all of your war crimes and depict them as necessary tactics to bring peace against the amoral savages with no concept of good or peace. Honestly their being slaughtered by the thousands was best for them really."
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>>739765797
>But not slapping it on Veyle after he woke up, when she was his main Corrupted factory, was stupid.
? he pretty much did. He wakes up and sees evil Veyle and doesn't think anything of it, so a few days later when he finds out she's wavering he slaps the crown on her.
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>>739755432
its made clear in the game edelgard is a retard who doesn't know whats going on. she continuously gets upset when she founds out her uncle is abducting kids, making monsters, etc, and says she will never forgive him.

the only reason she cooperates is because of her cuck-slave hubert, who essentially poisons her ear to convince her she needs to use her uncle to kill rhea (she doesnt even know her uncle is a mole-people).

hubert more or less knows what the mole-people do, and is perfectly fine with it because he's a psycho schizoid obsessed with edelgards pussy and sees no problem with murdering children.

as for rhea, in edelgards route, they show that rhea is a psycho mommys girl that is willing to kill any single person, or any combination of people, to get her mother back, and, that at the end, she will always consider humans to be of less worth than her mother. hence why she lights an entire capital city, of her own worshippers with women and children, on fire (the likes of which edelgard never even comes close to doing).

edelgards only point is that all of humanity is constantly kept in check by the namekians, which is true since after humans nuked themselves, the namekians kept them in the stone age. she is also correct that the only way to destroy them is unify the country and systemically kill them.

it doesn't matter if its for humanities 'own good', as long as namekians exist they will control all of humanity directly (through force of being a fucking dragon), or indirectly by empowering only those with their blood (crests).

tldr;
worst thing edelgard does: let hubert convince her to ally with mole-people, who do evil shit (she promises to kill all mole-people the second she can and end all their shit).

worst thing rhea does: kills every single human, city, kingdom, no matter who they are, if they so much as step between her and her mother, because they are filthy monkeys not fit to touch her namekian mommy.
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>>739755432
and she's right by the way. if she didn't start her war the slithers would've just kept building more and more nukes until they were able to blow up all their enemies at once. they had already infiltrated pretty much every level of every faction and only got exposed because they couldn't control Edelgard.
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words words words words words words
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How do I S-support someone with the avatar character without feeling like this every time
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Tl:dr
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>>739767082
I have no fucking idea. I don't even know how time travel is supposed to work. Because you need to use it to destroy the crystals in the past so they never exist in the present. But then you end up creating events that fulfill previous history which imply that it's a causal loop. But if the past already happened then how did the crystals make it to the present and why do they vanish after the crystal is used?

I don't know and I'm past the point of caring. I'm not one of those guys who treats media like a Cinemasins sketch. >>739767739
>they had already infiltrated pretty much every level of every faction and only got exposed because they couldn't control Edelgard.
They very expressly could not goad Leicester into war because Leicester refuses to care about its neighbors under any circumstances
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>>739767739
If that was he case, why did they agree to ally with Edelgard and gain nothing beyond acting like saturday morning cartoons and killing their own leadership over turtling in Shambhala and stockpiling ICBMs?
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>>739767889
You pick it for purely meta reasons
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>>739767528
>? he pretty much did
No, she was off running around the continent doing fuckwhatever. Reminder that she walked from Elusia to Firene ON FOOT, then to Brodia, then to Solm.
And Sombron had no idea where she was, when she was his most valuable asset until he got all of the rings.
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>>739767889
stop being a faggot and embrace the cringe. the moment you recognize that you are cringe, decide that you are okay with it and don't care about how others see you is the moment you become truly free.
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>Woman ruler
>Irrational, self-righteous, overly emotional, arrogant, blind, and easily manipulated

Wow who could have seen that one coming?
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>wordwordswordswords
3h threads are so shit
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>I can't read
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>>739767663
I don't rem any of this being in rhe game
I only played it once and sided with Dimitry where does any of this come from?
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>>739768198
meanwhile if she was a man and did and said everything the exact same you would consider him based and misunderstood
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>>739767937
presumably they wanted to seize complete control of the empire, putting one of their direct pawns on the throne, but it is kind of a pointless move when they obviously already have complete control seeing as they can kidnap EVERY SINGLE ROYAL HEIR.
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>>739767889
if you're doing it because you want to waifu the anime girl it's already over for you
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>>739768303
Anyone who played this shit fiesta 4 god damn times to get the complete story is a bonafide crazy person.
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>>739755432
>illegal war of aggression
They had it coming.
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>>739768303
>Engaygee needs pretty pictures to feel engaged
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>>739768414
if ONLY there was a WW2 member who completed a revolution no one ever asked for, carried out retarded purges on his own population, and outlawed religion to replace it with a de-facto cult of personality to test out your theory anon
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If you were isekaid into an FE game which class would you be? No, you can't be a merchant or a lord class.
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>>739768990
Rapist
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>>739765132
>If after all of this you believe the weak will still be weak, that is only because they are too used to relying on others instead of on themselves
How does Edelgard have fans when this comment of hers gives off heavy red flags? Now if you know she's being evil, I can get it, but calling her the good guy versus Dimitri and Claude is another thing.
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>>739768990
Bandit
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>>739755432
Okay but now post the comparisons what she actually says in original japanese script and not in the butchered english localization,
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>>739768990
Axe chud
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>>739769141
Why would you want to be a trash mob
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>>739769210
Well there's not many other prospects for me,

I would pick sword autism though if I really had to pick a non shitposty answer
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>>739768990
Level 1 soldier
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>>739765654
Mexican-American War. Hell yeah, we beat the shit out of those Mexicans and took their land. They weren’t even using it anyway.
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>>739768990
Pegasus knight (male)
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>>739768990
War Monk. Axes and Staves is a cool combo.
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>>739769062
Dimitri calls out this hypocrisy and tells Edelgard that she's effectively replacing the goddess with herself
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>>739768990
Pegasus Knight is my favourite class but they are gender locked to woman so o have to settle for cavalier
They have good mobility early game and are still viable late game in most games
Wyvern Riders are an alternative to Pegasus Knight but i dont like them as much
They are weak to bows and don't have the resistance to magic Pegasus Knight has
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>>739768990
This guy
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>>739769585
>They are weak to bows
Your delphi shield?
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>>739769450
>>739769585
the humble Griffon Knight class:
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>>739769652
His growths are probably crazy tho
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>>739769821
imagine if his growths were all 0 except mov which was 100 for some reason.
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>>739756224
Her problem is her being mad that she got kidnapped and experimented on.
She also went to school with someone who also got kidnapped and experimented on. Only difference is that girl was working to fix her condition instead of just killing literally everyone.
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>>739769909
What are you supposed to do with a fuck ton of move if you have 6 aid and no canto?
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>>739768414
youre a yt moid btw
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>>739770007
Visit a lot, i guess?
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Does Three Hopes do anything to improve the story or at least makes it more clear why Edelgard would start a war?
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>>739768990
Archer so I get perma benched and never see any actual combat
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sex with the frog...
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>>739770298
Yeah, it goes a bit more in depth on her. Specifically her support with Ferdinand covers how she never planned on educating the lower classes or uplifting them, and her only goal was always to lower the other nobles so that they're all working for her, because she's a dictator with a napoleon complex.
But the game is worth it for Shez.
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>>739770317
I'm dragging you to the field buddy.
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>>739770317
No you're not, you're getting your ass out on the field to take our those flying units and magic users
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>>739769938
Well Lysithea wasn't really trying to fix her condition, she just wanted to settle her family's affairs and experience as much life as she could before her time runs out. That's why she hates being treated as a child so much even though she very much acts like a child.

Also her commentary between whether she's poached by the Empire or the Kingdom is semi interesting. If she's taken by the Empire, Edelgard has to promise her that she's been things as Lysithea and that she only has to tolerate the Slitherers for the duration of the war afterwhich Edelgard will turn her attention to them. Meaning Lysithea's loyalty is to Edelgard almost exclusively.

Conversely if Lysithea is taken by the Kingdom, Lysithea makes it very clear that she does not like Dimitri. She thinks he's very unstable but his manic obsession with fighting the Empire serves her purposes. Because of those for those keeping track, it wasn't JUST the Slitherers who ruined her life. During the Insurrection of the Seven, Emperor Ionius and the Imperial Army invaded House Ordelia's land and took Lysithea hostage. That's how the Slitherers got access to her in the first place. So Lysithea hates both the Slitherers AND the Empire.
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>>739770317
That works so well for Rebecca
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>>739770383
>>739770413
Do you guys really want to waste a deployment slot on an archer when you can field a mage of jav merchant?
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>>739768990
Hero, I’d want to be infantry and swordmaster is gay and axefags are tryhards
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>>739770586
Yes.
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>>739770621
Heroes are axe fags tho. Their inventories are 50% hand axe by volume.
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>>739770586
The game has 12 deployment slots and there are only 6 units hard carrying. You can come out to play along with the healers and other pet shitters.
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Why are you all still talking about this shitty seven-year-old fucking game when Engage is the more recent mainline entry and had 100x the quality of this garbage? Fuck Dimitri. Fuck Edeltard. Fuck the third world boy who's name I can't even remember. I'm beginning to hate 3housefags harder than Fatesfags.
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>>739770693
Mine is 4 swords and 1 axe though
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>>739770943
You sound mad & butthurt
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>>739770943
>Engage trannies still seething
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>>739770943
We just had a discussion about how Sombron's actions are retarded, and you ignored it.
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>>739755432
>hitler, but female
I don't get, I thought /v/ would love edelgard and reddit would hate her, but it's literally the other way round.
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>>739768990
>No one wants to be a dancer/bard or healer.
Do you guys think you're too good to be support sluts? They're problay the best units for survivability since they'll be in the backline and protected by other units.
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>>739755432
she's very smart that's why we love her!
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>>739771259
They made her female Hitler but forgot to make her hot. She looks like a granny cosplaying as Leia post timeskip.
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>>739770943
....There was literally an entire conversation about Engage's story just now
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>>739771267
We’re not women and don’t want to steal their jobs
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>>739770943
i only found a physical copy of the game last month and played ot for the first time now
For some reason this game and Hyrule Warriors where realy hard to find
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>>739756224
>Was it ever explicitly stated what her ideals even are?
What the fuck am I reading? She never shuts up about them. If anything, the game would be significantly improved by having her discuss her motivations LESS. Are you gaslighting me? Shut the fuck up nigger.
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>>739770943
RENT FREE
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>>739771496
They sold through their stock, that's why. Something similar happened with Awakening back in 2013, it took people a month or longer to find a copy.
It's why Engage got over-produced, to meet a demand Nintendo THOUGHT Engage would need to fill.
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>>739771534
Maybe it's the same idiot from the other day that thought the game didn't explain the mole niggers enough.
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>>739771860
makes sense
I actually bought a brand new copy of engage a while back but never played it because I wanted to play 3 houses first for 50 Euros which is cheap usually a new game costs 60 Euros over here
3 houses costs 40 euros used
You can find copys of Engage everywhere where they sell digital media but ive never found a copy of 3 houses
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>>739770317
>archer so I can get perma be-
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I restarted awakening on hard but it actually feels too easy now. hopefully it balances out by playing wrong on purpose. I don't know what to do about parenting though. since I am trying to only use chrom, robin, and cute girls I was planning on only getting 4 child characters, but I found out that chrom is a picky fag and will only get with certain characters which is fucking things up. I want to get cynthia and selena, but tiamo isn't allowed to win the chromb owl and I don't want to make my robin a cuck. I could have chrom get with sumia and make frederick sit in the chair, but my autism is also telling me I want cynthia to be a griffon rider and that would require pairing robin with sumia, but I wanted robin to get with mariabell or sallya. should I have frederick get with sumia and have some other cuck father selena then? who is a good option? I can cheat the support level I guess but I don't want to use the characters so I won't be able to pass any advanced skills.
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>>739772113
>Goo Garon was foreshadows but the wub wub...just came out of NOWHERE
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>>739772131
>tfw got my copy of Engage for $5 from Walmart almost a year after launch
They were trying to dump their stock. I've never seen a Nintendo game go that low, only third party games like musous. And even Hopes only hit like $15. And I bought that on launch for $60 because I wanted it!
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>>739772169
Have vaike or someone idk. Fred seems like the perfect cuck* because chrom wouldn’t actually every cuck him
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>>739772113
>fight Solon twice and Kronya once in the first half
>see Thales before Kronya is even properly revealed
>all of this by like chapter 11
>>>he though Gooron was more foreshadowed, only appearing once as a png in chapter 15
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>>739768406
The other routes
Golden Deer & Church are basically identical with a couple side points.
Crimson Flower has a few characters acting radically out of character, so can be considered dubious for a few things, but is still more information on the world building which can be taken pretty straight.
Ashen Wolves are debatable, since they're pretty self contained, and don't really add THAT much besides highlighting how much mad scientist shit Rhea was up to
And Three Hopes is also mostly good for plumping up a few bits of worldbuilding, even if its narratives are mostly self contained.
Basically
Blue Lions is the personality route. You learn the most about the beef between Edelgard and Dimitri, and the more personal "why" aspects of shit happening.
Crimson Flower you learn some deep knowledge of Rhea's activities, that is backed up by (and mostly supplanted by) Ashen Wolves.
Church & Golden Deer you learn a bit bigger picture what's been going on in the world recently, a lot more of the local geopolitical landscape and who's who of shady shit, and then the molemen. (Golden Deer is also by far the most complete and final conclusion to the game's events)
And then Three Hopes is kinda like an enmeshing of Golden Deer & Blue Lions, where you learn a lot more of the personal why's of glup shittos.
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maybe the other routes go throgh this in more detail but ive only ever played the game once as the Blue Lion faction and all we get from here in terms of motivation is that the Church is living a decadent live supposedly while the common citizen lives in poverty and that they are entitled to all the former lands they used to own when they where a unifed empire and the only reason they ever lost the lands was because of the church who creates chaos to divide the people and keep them weak
Maybe thats true but from what i read in the library the different factions broke of from the empire and the Kingdom for widely different reasons and the Church only ever legitimsied the Kingdom to end the Conflict and the Alliance was never formaly recognised by the church in the same way the Kingdom was
They just split of one day and defended their indepence
Its kind of Ironic that Dimitri manages to unify the entire continent in his ending and creates a new empire because everyone united to get rid of edelgard
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>>739772264
It wasn't even the wub wub. He was saying "we suddenly jumped from school life to needing to kill Edelgard in her castle."
And then used Goo Garon as a "good" example of foreshadowing compared to needing to kill Edelgard.
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>>739772665
>Image for ants
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>>739772665
I didn’t read it either but I don’t support your anti-intellectualism
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>Is that actual effort posting in an FE thread?! How dare you!
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>>739772492
meant to repy to this guy >>739771534
>>739772492
thanks
I didnt buy the DLC i asked before if its needed for the plot and people said no maybe i will try the DLC and other routes later
I was already planning on playing the game again at some point on hard mode because normal was just braindead easy and none of my units ever died until the ver finale of the game where all of a sudden 4 of my units died but that was so late i didnt care anymore
It was really a slog at times with all the monestary stuff taking up way to much time and the overall story to gameplay ratio was really skewed to the story so im probably not gonna play it anytime soon but when i come back i give the other routes a try
Claude looks like the best route then?
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>>739772831
meant to reply to this anon not myself >>739772454
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>>739768990
Uuuuhhh Priest
I'm weak as fuck and am not smart enough to be a mage. I'm a heal staff on legs, I should not get your guiding ring, I should probably be benched no later than chapter 15.
I'm tall and fat, so I have higher Con than average, so I can help you rescue-drop a bit. I'm only slightly autistic, which means I think I have a Lightning affinity, which sucks shit I think, so you probably won't support me with anyone either.
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>134 posts
>no Rhea
Worthless piece of garbage thread.
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Marriage with Marianne!
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>>739772987
Nobody likes Rhea
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>>739772987
I want to lay in Rhea's lap as she hums her lullaby and gives me a nursing handjob.
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>>739755432
>Obducts
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>>739772987
Rhea is an interesting character to be but I'm more critical of her than these threads allow. And I'm a lionfag at heart.
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>>739772987
>>739773026
>>739773045
Goon squad reinforcements spawned
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>>739772987
She's really nice, but I prefer my lizard milfs a little different.
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>>739773107
With gachashitters ambush reinforcements.
>>739773173
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>>739773212
I've been here the entire thread, but you didn't cry about my other posts.
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>>739772335
Paying 60 bucks for musouslop is something I'd take to the grave
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>>739773107
I've been posting in the thread this entire time. Cope.
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>>739773243
>>739773328
Gooners won this one, load the save state
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>>739772831
At some point they added Maddening, which is a lot harder.
Unfortunately that difficulty is mostly front-loaded, and it ends up being very swingy and unbalanced feeling. But, uh, it's at least not asleep at the wheel easy like Hard is. Niether difficulty feels very good, but Maddening is mostly more fun. Uh. Don't save over your last save during the timeskip. It is actually possible to softlock at the first timeskip battle due to its sudden difficulty spike, and locking you out of any sort of preps, so, keep that save before the last pre-timeskip battle to shuffle inventory, classes, battalions, ect
The DLC is... okay. If you care, watch someone's playthrough of it for the story. If you aren't shitting yourself in bliss playing this game, the DLC isn't better.
Claude/Golden Deer, and Blue Lions are probably the two best routes, and Golden Deer has the best feeling ending.
The other two feel very unfinished. Black Eagles/Church is literally 99% the same as Golden Deer, except Seteth says Claude's lines, and the ending is worse because you don't deal with the mole men.
Crimson Flower feels VERY rushed, and most characters are suddenly replaced with very different people wearing their skin. It's also several chapters shorter than the others, and shit just kinda happens offscreen, down to a few things being crammed into the ending epilogue.
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>>739767409
von Ludendorff speech bubble:
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>>739773517
>load the save state
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>>739772987
stupid dragon >:(
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mangs is gonna game over on phantom ship
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>>739773519
The DLC is worth it for the classes. There's items too but I haven't used the Chalice of Beginnings in years just because it's so broken it removes the fun. But Dark Flier turns Flayn into an entirely new character. War Cleric is the one (1) Brawling option for female characters. And Trickster is probably my favorite Infantry class in the game. Valkyrie is capable of some STUPIDLY huge range on its magic. Like every spell is a seige tome on Valkyrie once you get the Thyrsus
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>>739769062
>>739769530
this would be a fair criticism if edelgard wasn't literally fighting against immortal aliens

rheas death seems to somehow fuck up crests, maybe all over, (at least it fucks up the crest of fire)

this would end the cycle of crests.

it wouldn't end the cycle of powerful and weak, which is impossible, but it would, you know, end aliens ruling humans. which is something.
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>>739774729
Rhea dies in other routes and crests don't get fucked at all. Same in Hopes. That one plotpoint rrally doesn't make sense and I wonder what even was the point of it.
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alternately is there a harem mod for awakening so I can just have robin dick everyone?
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>>739774729
>ESL making these claims
Rhea's death affects nothing, and her degradation only affects the mutation of people that drank her blood.
Crests still exist, even if she dies. It's why Sylvain has an ending in all routes about having to fix crest representation.
The only thing close to what you're talking about is CF, which is basically a separate canon. Rhea can die in SS, and it doesn't affect Byleth at all.
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>>739772169
>tiamo
>sallya
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>>739773328
Rhea Sexo! Rhea... SEXO!
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>>739768990
Dark Mage, hands down
>interesting designs in every FE iteration
>mostly full of quirks
>able to separate their dark art affinity to "do good" by helping the cause
>very humanizing characteristics
>typically rare type, always get special attention or have use in niche circumstances at worst
>Tome names = peak
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>>739775662
Based.
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Another thing that confussed me about the story how does it relate to the other FE games?
Im not totally new to the series but i havent played every game yet and from the ones that i played manakes/dragons are usually really powerful creatures that dont really get involved with Humans and just step in when shtf but arent outright treated as gods
Also theres a Fire Emblem artifiact sometimes
Is this like Zelda where the games are somewhat linked even though its just an afterthought or are they all in their own universe?
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>>739776160
>Another thing that confussed me about the story how does it relate to the other FE games?
It doesn't.
Fire Emblem is mostly an anthology series.
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>>739776160
Unless explicitly stated, events from one continent don't really roll over to others. For example Archanea from FE1 is right next door to Valentia from FE2. But Magvell and Elibe have nothing to do with each other even though 7 and 8 are right next to each other. The Dragons from Archanea are descended from Naga, a dragon goddess, while the Dragons from Elibe were native to that land before war forced them to retreat to an alternate dimension. Which are both different from Fodlan dragons from which they came from outer space.

It's like Final Fantasy. Names and themes can roll over but context is what decides whether Bahamut is a hero, a villain, or a force of nature.
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>>739776160
FE1 is the prequel of FE3
FE2 is thought to take place in the same setting but different continent as 1 iirc (not sure)
FE4 takes place over a period of 2 generations. FE5 is in the middle of FE4 time wise, and focuses on one country in the continental struggle.
FE6 takes place a generation after FE7, complete with some returning characters and landmarks
FE8 is separate from everyone
FE9 takes place and three years later, FE10 occurs in the same continent.
FE11 is a remake of 1
FE12 is a remake of the second part of 3.
FE13 is its own place but is supposed to be linked with FE1 somehow, I forget. Also FE14 is connected too to FE13 with some dimension hopping bullshit
FE15 is a remake of FE2
FE16 takes place in the same world as FE18 but we dont know enough to confirm yet.
FE17 is its own setting.
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>>739776398
>>739776383
>>739776160
This also applies to the Fire Emblem itself. In one game it's a magic shield. In another game it's a gemstone that imprisoned a literal demon. In another game it's a blood magic crest. And in another game it's a waifu. There's always A Fire Emblem but WHAT each Fire Emblem is changes per game
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>>739776160
1-5 are the same world. 1 and 3 are the same characters, 2 is a sidestory that takes place between, 4 happened hundreds of years prior, and 5 is a sidestory in 4.
6 is a new world, 7 is its prequel.
8 is completely unique.
9 and 10 are the same world.
11 and 12 are remakes of 1 and 3.
13 is a sequel to the original world.
14 is a sequel only to 13, in a new world.
15 is a remake of 2.
16 is a new world.
17 is a new world, but has characters from all the previous ones.
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>>739776640
>>739776646
>>739776770
thanks this really cleares somethings up
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>>739777032
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>>739775901
>>739772987
Green Camilla
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Cutesythea
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>>739777450
>flier Rhea with a Rose's Thorns prf
Imagine.
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>>739769353
Mexisharts started it too. Pussy bitches
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Am I the only one who thinks Camilla's personal skill is kinda overrated in conquest? It's wild on Alear in Engage, but that's a different story.
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>Mole man
>Nukes
>immortal aliens
I really want to know the ammount of players who skipped all of this because they choose an other houses and got an completly different understanding of the story this is incomprehensible to me
I get what they where goinf for her every route is a unique experince and shows more of the world in a way but thats vital information that shouldnt be locked to a specific route and most people arent gonna replay a 80h rpg
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>>739757443
these shoes are made for sex
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>>739774826
>I wonder what even was the point of it.
Like a lot of things in the Crimson Flower route, its poorly written, lazy "don't worry about this obvious flaw, it all worked out in the end, nothing bad happened after this" cope that exists entirely to make this not the obvious evil route.
Edelgard's vision of the future being inherently flawed because Crests are literal superpowers doesn't matter, they all went away, *poof*.
Edelgard definitely wasn't assassinated by the end of the year, everyone loved her *poof*
The economy is great, no lingering misgivings or knock on effects of well over 20% of the population of the continent dying in a pointless war *poof*
Don't worry about TWSITD, who by all accounts nuked the capital the attosecond Rhea died, we dealt with them afterwards, we promise :)
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>>739778541
It's good because it's free damage on a unit that's gonna be in the frontlines 24/7, and compared to other nothingburger prf skills in Fates it does deserve the high tier.
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>>739778457
baby making machines
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>>739778541
It's because Camilla is usually used to go off alone to get shit done, while Alear is a pretty mediocre unit that's moving with your main blob, and is honestly the main thing they do at times.
It's not worth sacrificing Camilla's ability to do shit to scrounge for the buff, while Alear doesn't have that same opportunity cost associated.
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>>739778889
I mean yeah it is good for a persona skill, but people pretend it's like a defining aspect of what makes her good, and I don't think it really affects how I play all too often since damage reduction is way better than damage boosting for most characters.
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>>739778541
Camilla's prf skill is good in any situation. Most others are situational. Camilla's just objectively makes every other unit better.
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>>739779123
Oh, yeah, the skill is just the cherry on top the Camilla sundae. She is just built differently compared to everyone else.
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>>739779123
>original post was solely about her personal skill being "overrated"
>now it's about her unit as a whole
Holy goalposts, batman.
Yes she's a good unit, but also yes her prf is only of the best in the game. It's so good, they gave it to Alear so that she'd always be useful.
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>do fates run
>this time for sure i'll use charlotte as an actual unit before she becomes xander's personal backpack
>xander joins
Some things never change...
>>739778541
Alear's is true damage, Camilla's is not. Camilla's is great as a dual strike partner on top of her already hitting hard. Personal's in Engage are also toned down compared to Fates so Alear's being Camilla but better stands out that much more.
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>>739774480
War Monk is pretty much the only thing from the DLC I think is a good addition.
Valkyrie and Dark Flier are stupidly OP and unbalance the game, they're fun but also make the game less fun. Trickster is similarly the single best class of its tier to be if you aren't grinding skills, but that tier is kinda made for grinding skills. It's fine, I think, good tradeoff.
War Monk is awkward enough to spec into that it requires a vision to get there, and both Catherine and Hilda are in desperate need of it. It straddles a good balance of awkward but good, that make it not overcentralizing, but appreciated.
The story itself is easily my least favorite route to playthrough, but the worldbuilding is nice.
The dump of free stat boosters is kinda lame but whatever
I dunno about the sauna, I figure gelbooru is right there.
Anna is lmao tier
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>>739778457
Saber is so lucky...
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>>739755432
Even after all these years Fire Emblem discussion still revolves around Three Houses and Edelgard.
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>>739779462
Overrated doesn't imply bad. I still think it's overrated by players because they seem to think it's active or important for a much higher percentage of combat than it realistically is in normal play.
>>739779493
Alear's is good because it's extremely easy to abuse and have active for tons of combats in a row (for example if you have them use Lucina), and Engage enemies just have way more bulk so it's meaningful. In Conquest, you usually just one-round enemies if you double them. For Camilla, it just feels more situational with how she plays as a character.
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>>739779753
>Overrated doesn't imply bad.
Buddy, I don't think I can name 5 Conquest prfs that are better than hers.
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>>739779846
I can
>Supportive
>Lily's Poise
>Fierce Mien
>Chivalry
>Sisterhood
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>>739779614
I only use sauna to speed run certain skills. Like Alert Stance pairs well with Faerghus Lineage+ so I'll speed up raising his flying to C+. Or if I'm doing a Vantage Lysithea, I'll combine the sauna with Mastermind, so she can go in and out of Myrmidon as fast as possible.
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>>739780569
I would say Xander has probably the best personal skill in the game after Corrin, possibly even better. I have no idea how you could possibly think it's worse than the royal auras.
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>>739777450
Correct and that's why she's great. Camilla was the only good thing in Fates, and Rhea is the best thing in 3H.
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i have only played 3 houses i like it despite one or two characters being able to clear the map
would i like fates? all i know about it is the MC is a footslut
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>>739775849
Bases chuuni anon. You'll probably always be getting dirty looks your way by any self respecting light magic users who are almost always women
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>>739780893
Auras are available for longer and can affect more units than just Xander. For what it's worth if I were to make a Birthright tier list it would be bushido and supportive with everyone else in a "Not Ryoma" tier.
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>>739778541
I don't know anyone that says it's better than what it is - a damage aura. People wank it insofar that they wank Camilla. The skill itself is appreciated but not game defining.
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>>739781152
The thing people loved about 3H was the writing. The gameplay is an afterthought.
The thing people liked about Conquest was the gameplay. The writing is horrible.
They're basically opposites. There's a reason people only talk about Camilla and (Female) Corrin anymore.
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>>739756224
They tried to make "Reinhard but girl" and failed miserably
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Daily reminder, Fire Emblem started at 3 houses, and ended there as welll
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>>739781181
But they're way less convenient in reality. Xander has a virtually always active +2/-2 without needing to do ANYTHING. No taking actions to position, literally just +2 str, def, and res completely for free.
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>>739781235
what of awakening
i only know of tharja sexo for that
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>>739781362
Mediocre gameplay and bad writing. If you're playing it for the waifus, it's acceptable enough.
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>>739781181
>if I were to make a Birthright tier list it would be bushido and supportive with everyone else in a "Not Ryoma" tier.
Rinkah has one of the best personals in all routes.
>but it's Rinkah!!
irrelevant
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>>739781338
Oh and same with Sisterhood >>739780569
Literally just free stats that you always get but you have that below garbage like Leo's???
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>turn permadeath on
>purposefully get casper killed early on because i thought he was an annoying little shit
>still survives in cutscenes
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>>739781489
If the skill is attached to a bad unit, then it's not gonna be as effective. TH shows the skill is good when you have a character that can actually deal damage.
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>>739781235
It's not that the gameplay was an afterthought, it simply gives the players too many tools to break the game and the maps being repeated so much makes it stale. I still think the Ashes Wolves campaign shows that in a more limited capacity, the game can be made genuinely entertaining without stat bloat.
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>>739770943
Engage did some things that I'd like to see in future games (fixed growths option, attempted to balance maddening) but overall it was just an ad for the mobile game rather than an actual mainline entry.
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>>739781584
All the units who die in the first part will not return for the time skip with a special epilogue saying how they did not survive the war. In the second half they just die normally.
I believe it was either to not redo all the first part cutscenes with students but you can also say that technically all the missions are supervised and the knights wouldn't let the students die.
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>>739781681
Fixed growths makes LTC legit too because 100% and 0% are statistically impossible so those categories were kind of stupid
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>>739781805
he definitely showed up post timeskip
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>>739767106
You know I never really considered fe7 to be a story game
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>>739781635
Rinkah deals good damage with Fiery Blood. Objectively. It's a good skill. She appears to have been balanced around its usage, so it doesn't turn her into Effie (who was balanced around one-shotting), but it gives her very high doubling damage early on.
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>>739781635
Good thing its attached to one of the best characters in birthright
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>>739755432
>Obducts
How did you fuck up this badly? The 'a' and 'o' keys are on the opposite side of the board.
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BRAAAPPPP
>Pick it up alear, it might be a silver ingot
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>>739782373
I learned that "obduct" is actually a word because of it, though.
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>>739780569
supportive are S
DP is A because you have to make felicia the backpack
VoF is A because corrin is better than silas
fierce mien is B because hit problems are rare
thorns is A+, poise is A
pragmata is B+
chivalry is S
I'm too lazy to do the others
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>>739782261
Bad thing no one plays that game
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>>739768937
>turns snowy shithole into a multicontinent spanning empire that euros still seethe and spill their pants in fear of to this day
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>>739780569
>Midori's money-making skill
>lmao
Yes, you are lyao all the way to the bank!
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>>739782682
He took over the reforms that were already underway from the days of the Romanovs, and Putin had to dedicate the vast majority of his career to undoing the fallout from Stalin. I'm as much of a Zfag as the next guy but I'm not running apologias for the fucking soviets.
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>>739780569
>Aching Blood lmao tier
Why...? It's free 10 crit. It actually makes a crit build viable with Odin and Mjolnir that can rival what Ryoma does.
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>>739755432
They did a pretty good job of making the chosen path feel like the "good" one for each. Edelgard was absolutely correct if you take her route. Very satisfying to kill the smug controlling godcunt Rhea and brainbroken Dimitri. And they did a good job of making Edelgard the villain in the other route. Still pretending there is an objectively good path is retarded.
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>>739769652
This is the type of character scrimblofags will spend an entire thread arguing has potential
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>>739781681
>just an ad for the mobile game
The 3 bonus weapons and rings that you only get if you already have a FEH account, along with one of seven DLC characters, are the only mention of the mobile game at all.
It's an add for the other games in general, sure, any crossover entry is doing that by default. But for Heroes specifically? Not in the least.
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>>739782790
That requires you to use Midori.
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>>739782992
Not only does he have potential, he's actually BETTER than all the prepromotes.
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>>739782975
Yeah, stop complaining about the Lords when they all brought something to the table
Dimitri became COMPASSIONATE
Rhea brought ORDER
Claude sought KNOWLEDGE
Edelgard
Byleth was ADAPTIVE
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>>739770943
>engage is the most recent mainline entr-
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>>739783017
you don't even have to use her you just have to recruit kaze (a good unit) and do her easy ass paralogue after children are above level 5, and then have her sit at the starting area waiting for the first 7 turns. fates isn't hector hard mode you have several free deploy slots after clicking all your actual carries and it's not like she's useless in combat either.
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>Nino but done right
>she has a professional sword that gives her +6 DEF/RES and double growths or something like that
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>>739783119
>mobileslop
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>>739782992
His base stats are not far off Amelia's lol
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>>739783119
>shadows
>mainline
stay in your lane mobileshitter
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>>739783238
Yeah but I bet it has 20 uses or something
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>>739767663
>In CF, where Rhea has been tortured for 5 years by the people who FACILITATED HER MOTHER'S MURDER and started this crest nonsense and is basically mindbroken with rage/grief does she do anything even remotely equatable to what Edelgard does
More proof CF/SS are straight bullshit.
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If I didn't have much trouble with Sacred Stones, how are the other GBA FEs difficulty wise?

I probably won't play them until after Fortunes Weave anyway, but I'm nearing the end of Path of Radiance (very cool game btw, probably the most interesting story/setting in the series of the games I've played).
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>>739783527
SS is the easiest by a mile. FE7 is only slightly harder but FE6 even on normal mode is way harder.
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>>739783527
SS is generally considered one of the easiest in the series, with PoR and FE7 being around the same level.
Binding Blade is a bit of a jump up, and will probably be tricky to adjust to depending on how you play.
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>>739783527
The other GBA games are both more difficult, but not that bad overall. FE7 is overall the easier one blind.
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>>739783527
FE6 and FE7 are similarly difficult, but imo in FE7 it's for the wrong reasons like shafting you with stupidly low deployment limits on Hard. FE8 is by far the easiest.
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>>739783238
>spoiler
That's fucking romhack dev tier retarded. Giving units special snowflake shit is not interesting in the least.
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>Edeltards not bringing up the shitty and forced Mad Rhea plot point from the last minute phoned-in CF route just so Edelgard looks better in comparison, challenge impossible
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>>739783201
>you just have to wait until child units scale to promoted level 5 which is around chapter 21
>and you have to waste a deployment slot on her
>all for about 5 chapters worth of gold assuming you don't have any more paralogues to do
If you're that desperate for gold you would be feeding Lilith or using Siegbert's paralogue to grind iron weapons.
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>>739783527
FE7 is baby mode easy, just like FE8, but it's longer and has some bullshit RNG game over conditions. FE6 is a lot tougher, but is kinda easy with familiarity.
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>>739783762
>or using Siegbert's paralogue to grind iron weapons
You can't even get that skill in conquest unless you set it as Corrin's talent, which is wasteful imo as it's honestly pretty useless otherwise.
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>>739783703
>it's ok when fates does it
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>>739783527
>didn't have much trouble with Sacred Stones
You probably won't have trouble with FE7, I find Sacred Stones to be the easiest GBA title and that's even on Hard without Seth.
You might have trouble with FE6 but I haven't played it because it just seems poorly made and not fun to play between awful growths, awful hit rates and same turn reinforcements. I don't doubt that the map design is very good because there's got to be something appealing about it.
>nearing the end of path of radiance
It is a succinct game. Radiant Dawn tries much more and stumbles greatly throughout.
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>>739783762
>using Siegbert's paralogue to grind iron weapons
I find it hilariously ironic that you're trying to claim using Midori to farm gold bars is a significant investment while also bringing up this strat that requires a specific talent for your Corrin.
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>>739783927
>>739783982
Capture Kumagera, reclass to blacksmith.
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>>739783938
>it's ok
No, it's not okay, and I wasn't suggesting that at all. I fucking hate those gay prf weapons, even worse that the game basically forces you to use them.
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Why are we hating on prfs now?
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>>739784113
What's with this autism against PRFs? I swear some people here just hate on things out of reflex. It's one of the simplest and most effective ways to make units stand out from each other. Just don't use them if they make you shit your pants that hard.
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>why are we hating on a 1-2 range silver sword that can proc skills/crits but only one unit can use
Gee, I wonder.
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>>739784519
It has less hit and mt than a silver sword
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>>739771267
Look man, if the game had marching bands like M&B napoleonic wars or banner of the maid, I'd be the first in line to do it. I'm just not being a gay twink dancer
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>>739784519
Anybody can use tomes and shurikens in the game. It's not really unique.
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>>739784474
>HURR DURR JUST DON'T USE
Doesn't make it not shitty design. Yeah bro, go ahead and equip Xander with the Kodachi instead, I'm sure you'll have a great time.
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>>739783119
>when you pee on the carpet again and Alberta rubs your snout in it
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>>739784474
We gotta deliver our daily hot takes for (you)s. Stating controversial opinions stridently is how you come across as a Very Smart Boy With His Own Opinions on this website, but the problem is, there's nothing actually wrong with prfs so it just ends up being a complaint about nothing.
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>>739784840
Alberta is gonna be dlc in fortunes weave.
>source???
My retainer works at nintendo
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>>739784836
So use Siegfried then if you don't wanna use worse weapons? I seriously don't get what argument you're even trying to make. It's not like Xander even has bad stats if you want to go full autism and have him use a forged bronze or something because of some nonsensical pet peeve. Is that what you want?
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>>739783527
/vfeg/ official community tier list
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>>739784474
It's a gbafag opinion. Fates is on the lower end of handing out prfs to units.
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PRF hate feels like some grievance brought over from romhacks. There doesn't appear to be any real reason to be upset about siegfried.
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>>739784967
>nothing wrong with prfs
To be argumentative Fates did go out of its way to put restrictions on traditional 1-2 range weapons, then Siegfried and Raijinto exist, available from midgame and give advantages just for existing.
But I hate Fates anyway and never played it above Normal, and Daggers are guilty of the same contradictory stance on 1-2 range weapons but it's not something I think about.
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>>739785346
>never played it above Normal
lol just the right kind of person I like to get my gameplay opinions from
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>>739785186
>I seriously don't get what argument you're even trying to make
Can you not read? I'm arguing that prfs are shitty design. The fact that you are literally waffling between
>JUST DON'T USE IT
and
>THEN USE IT BUT DON'T COMPLAIN
really drives my point home. It's shit design and it literally forces you to play the game in a specific way instead of allowing for freedom of expression, all in the name of keeping things 'unique' (bullshit).
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>>739785454
You keep saying it's shit design but you haven't tried to articulate what is supposed to be shit about it. How are you being "forced" to play in any particular way? Siegfried doesn't even require you to be able to use it for the boost to happen. You can literally reclass Xander into whatever the fuck you want and still get +4 defense.
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>>739785215
Redpill me on the game next to engage and the one next to radiant dawn
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>>739785295
>criticize fates
>conqultist immediately shits on other FE games
LIKE. CLOCKWORK.
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>>739755432
>illegal war
nigger shut the fuck up
call the fucking war police
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what do you have against fates anyways?
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>>739785334
Yeah, romhacks overdo it because amateurs literally can't help themselves. They don't know how to exercise restraint, murder their darlings. This isn't a problem in Fates or really any Fire Emblem game. The fact that you can only name 2 really great prfs in the entire game - and they're not really better than a forged tome - is the proof that IS didn't overboard.
>>739785346
Yeah but again, anyone can use tomes and knives. I don't really know why IS nerfed conventional throwables so hard other than to be different. But there are generic options for everyone else, and they're legitimately good ones.
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>UNIT IDENTITY SHOULD BE THAT THIS CAV HAS ONE MORE STRENGTH AND ONE LESS SPEED THAN THAT CAV AND NOTHING ELSE
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>>739785619
>you haven't tried to articulate what is supposed to be shit about it.>
You can literally reclass Xander into whatever the fuck you want and still get +4 defense
You're doing it for me. Literally WHY is a single unit allowed to have access to something so overpowered? Why are there hardly ANY drawbacks to it?
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>>739785859
Evidence
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>>739755503
Correct. As a subject of Adrestia I'm confident that Monica was proudly willing to serve her empress in death, better than she could have ever served in life.
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Yep. It's mad. Never criticize Fates, kids. It's the sacred FE game.
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>>739785931
>You're doing it for me. Literally WHY is a single unit allowed to have access to something so overpowered? Why are there hardly ANY drawbacks to it?
He's the fucking crown prince that's why. Do we need to make every unit equally good and eliminate all flavor in the process?
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>>739756224
blue lions kind of omits the story to focus on dimitri. Silver Snow and getting Edelgard to C+ rank tells the whole actual story.
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units having cool and unique weapons and relics is cool
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>>739785127
>>source???
>My retainer works at nintendo
Which one? The retainer that collects pennies, or the retainer who imitates animal noises?
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>>739785878
Throwables were nerfed badly because of no durability meaning that they could be used forevee to juggernaut through the game. Or at least, I assume that's the idea and the people behind that balance change weren't informed reclassing is a thing.
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>>739756224
Ironically Blue Lions explains her motivations the best. She's mentally stunted and an amnesiac and due to plot-convenient partial recollections of her childhood romance with dimitri she is convinced that the only way she can find love and peace again is to keep slashing until all of the problems go away.
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>>739786032
>He's the fucking crown prince that's why. Do we need to make every unit equally good and eliminate all flavor in the process
e-sports balance mentality is a cancer. i want my crown prince my future KING to be the best and stand above hoi polloi
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>>739785931
There is a generic tome in the game that grants +3 res, +3 spd, +3 skill, and +3 defense. Again, your virtue signaling about the imbalances of prfs is misplaced. There are genuine balance criticisms you can level at Conquest. Xander getting some extra stats on his murder-sword in a game full of murder-swords is not one of them.
While we're on the subject, certain special units being unfairly better than other units is actually a GOOD thing.
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>>739786194
>because of no durability meaning that they could be used forevee to juggernaut through the game
Yeah, instead you just juggernaut the game with Xander and his special snowflake prf sword. What great design, absolute pinnacle of human ingenuity.
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>>739786148
dimigard is the core of the story though, it doesn't really lose anything
nemesis is history and moles are advisors
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unit identity is another problem that's downstream of permadeath. making 2 cav units feel unique is easy. it only becomes difficult when you have 5 of them because you have to have replacements in case the player gets all of the initial ones killed.
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>>739786194
I don't think that's it because tomes weren't nerfed. I think they really believed adding all those effects would make the gameplay more asymmetric and interesting, rather than making most weapons untouchable.
To be fair, it kinda did in some cases. The bolt weapons are actually fairly well balanced, with reasonable strengths and weaknesses. It's also fun to damage stack and one-shot with a hand axe.
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>>739786414
i agree that the devs do that, but they don't have to. if you lose special snowflake cav with his special snowflake sword, you COULD just be screwed with uno dos and tres from the einherjar store
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which unique weapon would you rather have for your scrimblo? seigfried or fe4 tyrfing?
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>>739764445
Would. Those thighs of hers are bigger than me.
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>>739786274
>There is a generic tome in the game that grants +3 res, +3 spd, +3 skill, and +3 defense
*WHEN EQUIPPED, unlike what you LITERALLY just said about Xander's prf weapon.
>certain special units being unfairly better than other units is actually a GOOD thing
Even if I agree with you, overpowered prf weapons are not the best way to achieve this.
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>>739786576
>+4 defense for free right before the ninja rapecave and the gauntlet of the final CQ chapters is blatantly overpowered and I will now shit up the thread nonstop
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Prf skill> prf weapon
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>>739786527
1-2 range is way too good to give up
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>>739786576
You're so concerned with how outraged on-paper differences make you feel. But here's a fact. Siegfried is so good Xander doesn't have a reason not to equip it all the time. People like to cope up Wyvern for him in a couple maps, but realistically he should be swinging his big purple laser dick around 24/7.
Effectively you can think of Sieg as a 1-2 range shuriken that doesn't debuff and gives +4 defense while you're using it.
Similarly, there's not usually much reason to take off Horse Spirit, so you almost always have these bonuses active until another tome is better for a specific engagement.
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>>739785764
I mean it's true, Fates is on the lower end of prfs. You've got the Yato, the brother's weapons, and Missiletainn bringing the total to 6. Compare that to something like FE4 where there's a whole set of weapons that only someone with major holy blood can use. Marth gets 3 weapons in his first game, Merric and Linde each get their own, the brave lance is exclusive to Finn in FE5, Elincia gets Amiti, etc.
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>>739786674
everyone has a professional skill nowadays Luis
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>>739755432
Don't forget her pet serial killer.
That's always a fun one.
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What website can i use to find average stats for awakening characters? Serenesforest doesn't have that section and i can't seem to google anywhere else.
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>>739786769
>the brother's weapons, and Missiletainn
All 3 of these are so hyper-mid, Mystletainn especially. Brynhildr is literally a forged thunder tome.
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The best two characters in Switch FE were Aelfric and Sommie. Haters need not reply.
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>>739755432
She doesn't do any of this in her route.
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>>739786946
The last one is the only one she doesn't do in her route.
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>>739786892
Take this as a sign that you're obsessing over something nobody else cares about. Awakening "averages" are a joke since second seals allow for fast, infinite leveling.
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>>739786742
>Effectively you can think of Sieg as a 1-2 range shuriken that doesn't debuff...
... and has more might than a silver shuriken and doesn't fuck your stats for using it.
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>>739783104
Edelgard sought CHANGE you stupid fucker.
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>>739786946
correct, all of these are pre-timeskip before her route begins.
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>>739782975
>and brainbroken Dimitri
???
>please stop killing my people senselessly
>I'm not killing your people senselessly
>*massacres the entire civilian population of arianrhod*
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>>739787029
you can't forge sieg though
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>>739787006
True, but I don't participate in grinding characters that way. I just want to do a run of awakening since it's been years since i last played it.
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>>739787029
You can +3 an iron dagger and it will have -1 mt / +10 hit compared to Siegfried. Siegfried, as a unique weapon, can't be forged - this is a marked disadvantage of it, although it happens to be good enough unforged, thankfully.
A lot of your autism here is dependent on not looking at how Fates plays *in practice* - the entire economy of effects you can exploit to suit your ends. If you look at Siegfried in isolation, I guess it looks OP? Until you realize it's not even the best 1-2 weapon in the game and it's trivial to forge stuff as good as it.
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>>739787046
The only thing she wanted to change was who was on top of the totem pole.
Her proposed meritocracy will just lead to another crest system since crest bearers are just born better than everyone else, and she has no care for the lot of the commoners as she has no plans for education or any other method for them to improve their own lives.
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>>739786946
All of those except the last one were done pre-timeskip, so all routes.
The last one is exclusive to AM.
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>>739787185
>forging silvers
>>739787213
>+3 an iron dagger
>BROOO IT JUST TAKES SMITHY RANK 2 AND 12k GOLD WORTH OF WEAPONS TO MAKE A SIMILAR GENERIC WEAPON
Yeah, with those resources you hacked in, right?
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can't wait to recruit Shez in fortunes weave
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>>739787520
Not him but isn't +3 only 8k? Iron weapons cost 1000, right? That honestly isn't very expensive.
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If I were to make an FE I would give units personal skills, class skills, and prf weapons BUT I would not allow reclassing. I would have forging as well.
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>>739787520
It's 8k to forge a +3 iron dagger. Why do argue about a game you're clearly not familiar with, anon? I feel like that's so many of the arguments here, just a guy a shitting up the thread for hours with his horrendous dogshit takes based on a single run he did over 5 years ago. You're also anti-forging, so that explains a lot of your retardation here.
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So, I'm planning an "edelgard is always right" run, in which I play normal/classic and organize tactical play for the express purpose of allowing edelgard to directly or indirectly kill as many of her classmates as possible, in order to prove the superior morality of her goals. However, I've come to a fork in the road early on. Chapter 11 is one of the early chapters where it is easy to rack up a solid kill count for edelgard before the timeskip. However, would it be better to instead deploy the youngest female students and serve them up to metodey, a proud commander under her direct orders, who intends to torture kill and eat the children?
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>>739765132
And it's ridiculous when you look at who's currently dying to make all these war casualities worthwhile. Possibly hundred thousands to millions of people dying for
>a couple to a couple dozen noble kids getting spurned or having shitty lives every generation
>some religious schizms result in the dissenters dying I guess
>the lack of typewriters are making some people less educated than they should be maybe
>the Church is xenophobic against the literal hostile Mongols who want to kill people for fun and the vikings despite importing resources just fine from other continents and countries
Genuinely what would Edelgard even do to solve most of these that the Church wasn't already doing? Try and cause a total crackdown on all Crest research to prevent experiments? Pretend she has "more religious tolerance" after already brutally conquering the continent and establishing a puppet church? Yeah she totally won't kill any of her own religious dissenters. Try and play nice with the Mongols and vikings? Well she just conquered and weakened the infrastructure of the areas mainly targeted by them. I'm sure Farmer Joe is real happy that the third son of some bumfuck noble is going to be an accomplished general despite not having a crest with all of his house's resources backing him.
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>>739787649
It's actually cheaper if someone who is proficient in the weapon type you want to forge is running the weapons shop when you buy the copies.
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>>739787817
Her war is also retarded because crests are disappearing and they also make the bearer explicitly superior when they remain...
If there were a person who could single-handedly fight off the Chinese or American military for 5 years then sure he's better than me and can be king, I'm not that narcissistic to think we'd be equal.
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>>739787816
If the goal is "edelgard is always right" you should probably avoid giving kills to TWISTD members or obviously villainous empire soldiers.
She totally plans to remove them later, after all, so it would wrong to indirectly prove them right by inflating their kill count.
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>>739787649
>>739787725
Oh please, I made a small technical error about the game's retardedly convoluted forging system because I haven't played it in ages. 8k is still a lot of fucking gold (not to mention the forge resources) compared to something you get for FREE that's STILL BETTER.
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>>739788089
>8k is a lot of fucking gold
You really haven't played CQ in years, haven't you?
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>>739788089
>because I haven't played it in ages
And there it is. Holy fuck. Finally an admission. Maybe make a good faith attempt to play it again and play it well before crying about shit that is of no consequence.
I can't imagine blathering as much about the 3H meta as much as you have about Fates, because I've barely played it and don't know shit about it.
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>>739788089
>8k is still a lot of fucking gold
Not really. Conquest gives you quite a lot of gold. It throws around 10k at you every few chapters, to say nothing of the paralogues like Percy's where you can make upwards of 20k if you play it well. You can also sell the many trash weapons you'll never use like steel axes.
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>>739787817
Well there's also the problem of "how are we gonna do all of this?" House Bergliez is not a Crest bearing house. House Edmund, technically, is not a Crest bearing house since the Crest of Maurice is not officially recognized. Meanwhile House Galatea is a recognized house but it's flat broke.

The thing that makes noble houses powerful isn't just the magic blood, it's the fact that have infinitely more resources than your average commoner. Leonie is one of the hardest working students in Garreg Mach and she will die in debt if she doesn't get help. Meanwhile Caspar might be literally retarded but he's the second son to both the Minister of War and the owner of Grondor Field aka the Empire's breadbasket.

So just blaming everything on Crests and assuming that Crest privileges is what's stopping everyone from getting along is fucking stupid. Because once your last name stops mattering your family still has millions of dollars in their stores. Ingrid and Mercedes can still be sold for money because their Crests give actual magic in a setting where magic exists. Does Leonie no longer need to pay her school debt because she works hard?
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>>739786342
>dimigard is the core of the story though
In Blue Lions.
He's almost entirely irrelevant and barely comes up in Silver Snow or Verdant Wind.
Dude is effectively just a named NPC in everything but his own route.
>it doesn't really lose anything
it loses all the lore and the reason for why things are happening.
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>>739788193
>>739788201
>YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME EVERY DAY OR YOU CAN'T CRITICIZE IT
Holy fuck, you people are something else.
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>>739788078
Part of me agrees with this, but part of me also likes the irony that she plans to remove these people and has every means to do so, but chooses to keep them around for an extra month or two, expressly so that they can kill a dozen children for her. I think the impersonality of it really drives home her superiority of her moral system.
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>>739788323
I think you should be informed about what you're criticizing or you're no better than a games journalist, yes. I shut up about subjects I'm unfamiliar with, or at least I don't make outrageously bold claims about them I can't defend, and this goes beyond video games.
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>>739769062
Edelgard fans only play crimson flower and take all other routes as non canon and out of character.
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>>739788323
Maybe you shouldn't act like a massive retard when discussing things you have no knowledge about.
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>>739788426
I played all the routes multiple times and liked them.
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Reminder that tonics are 150 so it would take 66.6 maps to equate to the price of 1 stat booster.
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>>739788416
>>739788464
>making a mountain out of a mole hill over a small mistake
Ah, I see this your tactic now since you can no longer defend how shitty the OP prf design choice is.
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>>739788690
Nah, my tactic is calling you a retarded nigger because you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.
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Poat Marianne's playing with hwr pussy
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>>739788806
I accept you concession.
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>>739788690
It's not overpowered lol. Not anymore than any other 1-2 range weapon in the game. If you had just criticized how Fates handled 1-2 range weapons generally, or how it made silvers terrible, or any other more reasonable issue, no one would have even protested, or to the extent they did, they could have acknowledge you had a good point.
But you autistically picked on Xander's purple lazor sword for some reason. People always overhype the big bro prfs and it's so dumb. The big bros are NOT why Fates is unbalanced. If you take Ryoma out of Birthright, it is still an absolute clusterfuck of a game that 10 other units can utterly dominate like it's their bitch.
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>>739788464
>no knowledge
>after saying he played the game
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>>739784782
Banner of the Maid had no business being as good as it was. Has the company that made it even made another game since?
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>>739788906
Every FE ever including conquest…
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>>739789018
https://x.com/KitokuJukuren
https://gg.deals/game/echoes-of-vision/
It seems like they have worked on other games but the only one from azure flame is banner of the maid.
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>>739770007
kiting and AI abuse, Soldier-kun would be S-tier in FE12
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Quibbling about the cost of a +3 iron forge is on the same level of pointing out minor typos tbqh
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I really hope reclassing dies in a fire in the new game. We've hit peak reclassing between all the games since shadow dragon, so why not limit characters to one class line, and make personal skills and stat lines that are more obviously powerful and cool in certain ways?
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>>739789287
He brought it up like it's a huge deal that it costs "12k." It doesn't, it costs 8k. Kinda sick of people acting like forging is bad in Fates. It's not, it's really good and if you're not doing it, you're making the game harder on yourself for no benefit.
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>>739789287
Not really. It was a pretty major overestimate that betrayed his lack of knowledge about the forging system in general. 8k is also just not much gold in conquest, so being able to make a dagger on par with this MEGA OP GAME-RUINING PRF that anyone can use for that little kind of defeats his point.
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>>739755432
its okay because shes a waifu!
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>you're arguing just to argue
>t. the guy saying shit like 'just wait actual real time until the correct shopkeeper shows up to make the forge half cost'
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>>739771259
its cause she can be gay and Dimitri is a aryan male
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>>739789661
>the guy saying shit like 'just wait actual real time until the correct shopkeeper shows up to make the forge half cost'
Lmao it's like 5% off which is why nobody ever bothers to do this.
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>>739789310
I would appreciate a modern FE that dials things back a bit and keeps things simple, we don't need to have a huge new gimmick every entry that the gameplay is entirely centred around.
That said I do personally enjoy being able to take units in alternate directions from their base class. I think SS really hit the sweet spot of no reclassing but branching promotions so units can vary themselves between playthroughs while still being locked to a specific role and class line.
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>>739755432
>Abducts children
>Starts illegal war
>Make Fodlan Great Again!
>Is the Anti-christ

Sounds like a certain politician...
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>>739789462
>on par
It's not on par though. It's weaker and doesn't grant +4 DEF just for existing. On top of the cost.
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>>739789809
>I think SS really hit the sweet spot
No it didn't it just presents you a bad option and a good option.
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>>739789840
I still don't get why the existence of better units bootybothers you so much. Do you also get mad at Dagdar for having like 6 more base defense than Leif? Marcus just totally bodying Becca across the board? Xander is a tank. What difference does it make whether he gets the 4 defense added to this raw stats or attached to his personal weapon?
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Three Hopes turning Edelgard into a retarded crying child was the only good writing she has ever gotten.
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>>739790049
I still don't like Babygard. I wanted Dimitri to win with no asterisks. Not for Edelgard to know about Thales's plan and then to slip and fall in it anyway
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>>739789921
If you're a hyper LTC autist that only cares about efficiency sure, but flavor exists for more than just optimization.
Yeah maybe wyvern is better than falcon in pretty much every way, but having some variety is fun, and Tana from a design standpoint fits the latter much better.
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Why do people like to use Ingrid's situation as a proof of how bad the crest system is? Like if crests didn't exist, that somehow changes her situation at all? She still has to marry well regardless if she has one or not. If anything having a crest is a boon to her situation.
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>>739790154
Hopes was damaged by their decision to not make a definitive conclusion to not hurt the original game endings. I understand why it happened but it forced all the endings to be unnecessarily ambiguous and unresolved.
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>>739769062
1: You act as if having red flags is a issue or would prevent a character from having flaws. 2: It's a very American bootstrap mentality. If you are weak, it's because you can rely on somebody else. The weak are only weak because they can get away with being weak.

I personally don't entirely agree. But I still think Edelgard's actions aren't entirely indefensible because they did work. If not in her own route, then the others.
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>>739790217
>but flavor exists for more than just optimization
There's no "flavor" to picking sage over bishop. It's just dumb and making your character worse than they'd otherwise be for no gain. Almost every choice is like that and people twist themselves into pretzels trying to come up with reasons not to take the obvious choice.
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>>739755432
>You are a threat to Adrestria's existence... Zero Emblem.
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>>739790224
The crests are to blame
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>>739787817
Biggest thing is kickstarting industrial society and abolishing feudalism.

English civil war wasn't pleasant but you could argue long term it was necesary for England.
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>>739790346
*prevent a character from having fans
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>>739790224
Because it's not just about the Crest. Ingrid is trapped between the life she wants and the life her family needs. She could very well walk away from her house and live as a knight. It would be the end of House Galatea but her father wouldn't begrudge her for that. But her guilt is that she watched her father work to the bone to keep his House alive and to keep her feed and she wants to honor his sacrifice. But doing that means abandoning her personal dream of being a knight, which her Crest enables.
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>>739789809
Fates did handle it the best so far.
>default class + personal class based on the unit
>can get one extra class from s support
>can get one extra class from a+ support
>without using eternal seals levels are limited so you only have so many levels to work with
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>>739790372
I pity your lack of whimsy. Sometimes the decision really does come down to sage's cape looking better than bishop's hat.
Especially in a game like SS where there is zero reason to ever need to pick the best option, surely this of any situation is the one where's you'd consider an objective bad class over a good one, they'll both beat the game without issue.
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>>739790736
>We've already moved the goalposts to "the game is easy anyways"
I almost feel bad when I attack the SS promotion system you guys don't even try to defend it anymore.
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>>739790453
Is Sommie being the Zero Emblem supported by anything in the game or is it pure fanon?
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>>739790871
It's funny to pretend Alear isn't the Zero Emblem.
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>>739790842
From the start I was talking about the options existing for variety between runs, you're the one who brought up their balance for some reason.
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>>739791108
There's no variety if it's horribly balanced because players will pick the same thing every time.
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>>739790470
The English didn't have a psychosimp acting behind the scenes assassinating everyone who doesn't worship his Queen, or a Serial Killer granted the latitude to slaughter innocents to quell his bloodlust. So I don't think it'd work out that way in Fodlan unfortunately.
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>>739790871
Sommie has special anti fell dwagon powers to keep the Somniel safe and Sombron went ham on dwagon pussy once his dog left him to breed an army to take it back
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>>739791212
The difference in balance is part of the variety. Just because you're a slave to the meta and always pick the same thing doesn't mean everyone else is so narrow minded.
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>>739791458
I dunno what to tell you. Most people don't handicap themselves to look at different animations, and it's a bad idea to design games under the assumption that that's acceptable balance.
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>>739789921
>a bad option and a good option
>the less move option is the bad one because muh hardcore LTC strat I totally do every time I play the game
Hero is better for Gerik than Ranger.
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>>739790932
But it's not Alear.
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>>739791571
The exception proves the rule.
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>>739791626
Sage is better for Lute than Mage Knight.
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>>739791660
LMAO
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>>739790932
How can Alear be the ring his dad played with when he was a kid?
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>>739791547
I think you vastly underestimate the amount of people that play FE casually. Waifu characters that are notoriously bad units and difficult to train would not be so wildly popular if everyone exclusively picked the best options and never deviated.
These games have rosters 5 times larger than you'll ever be able to deploy, because they know people will want to try out different units and pick their favorites. If everyone was like you and only picked the good ones, we'd have rosters of 15-16 every game.
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>>739791571
>it's ok that my options are "mage with effective damage against 90% of endgame enemies" and "mage without effective damage against 90% of endgame enemies" because lol funny hat you just have no le whimsy bro :)
stop defending objectively bad game design
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>>739791685
>move+1 vs. tomefaire
Better MAG = better tome economy.
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>>739791804
A world where Mia is not nearly as popular as she is would be a good one.
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>>739791868
>tomefaire
???
MK gives more move and canto. The promo bonuses are also just better. More magic and it to some extent fixes her terrible CON, giving an effective +2 speed on anything heavier than a fire tome.
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>>739792027
As long as Mia has sweaty, tasty tomboy pits, she will be popular.
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>>739791807
Stop pretending to be a hardcore LTCfag in these threads.
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>Mia
>Popular
And what are her CYL rankings again?
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>>739792054
Sage MAG cap is MK +5, i.e. tomefaire effect. Lute is DEFINITELY going to cap MAG, so this is pertinent. Speed is not really as relevant, because 99% of the time, you're using fire anyway, and with higher MAG she may even be able to hit some OHKOs with bigger tomes.
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Anti 3H fags are nitpicking the story just because they hate it's the most popular FE game rn.
It's like FF7 haters who hate it because they don't like it due to specific personal taste of the story, not because it's worse.
You can criticize it all you want but calling it bad or a disgrace doesn't compute since it offers much more content to talk about compared to its predecessors.
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>>739792250
Gachashitters are subhuman and their opinion is not relevant.
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>>739790574
Yeah, but again, it is a poor example of why the crest system is bad. If she has the crest it's like you say. If she didn't have a crest, it would still be like you say. Her having a crest does not factor into the problem she faces.
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>caps
ughh sorry can't do this right now
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>>739792250
The wiki is down right now, but unironically she's basically always in the top 20 for women.
She'll never win, but it's undeniable she has a fanbase.
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>>739792295
>who cares if the game is bad what about the CONTENT???
fuck off journalist
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>>739767889
cage your sissy clit
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>>739792085
True
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>>739792387
Not even a journalist, you are just stupid pissy faggot.
If you want a perfect story why couldn't you make it yourself?
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>>739792434
go back to your youtube shorts
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The only caps I wanna hear about
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I'm here to stop the archer slander. Archers are not only great for btfoing flier but they can also make great tanks or dodge tanks so they're ideal for closing gaps especially since not having options for 1 range combat makes it so they're unable to accidentally kill too many enemies on enemy phase and be overwhelmed by accumulated damage.
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>>739792250
Consistently in the low 30s, placing her as popular overall, but never the mainstream pick.
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>>739792530
>go back
>fuck off
literal AI of a manchild
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>>739790871
Sommie lives in a grotto, Sombron was looking in caves as well.
Sommie's shrine is an Emblem pedestal like those from the Ring Chamber.
Sommie is aligned with Gradlon.
Sommie peaced out for a second but returned around the same time as Sombron's return.
Sommie is canonically a depressed antihero warrior who knows the pain of solitude.
Sombron can't access the Somniel, meaning he can't reach Sommie.
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>>739792573
If this is somehow a concern for you, just unequip the weapon of [any unit] and you'll likely have the same thing except a unit with better stats than an archer doing it.
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I thought Siegfreid being gamebustingly overpowered would be the most retarded argument of the day. Never change, /vfeg/
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Mia's FEH placement is something curious, though. She's usually pretty up there, and as a result has like 6 units.
But there are characters that place higher or have even won who only have like half of that. So I assume the devs just love shilling Tellius.
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>>739792602
of course the content fag equates everything to AI
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>>739792716
your insults sound literally sound so generically AI though, why not?
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/v/ would defend a woman who firebombed their family if she was cute. You're casting pearls before swine, OP.
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>>739792805
There's an FE character who killed the player and their daughter, and she came in 1st in CYL.
It was hilarious, and I want more of her.
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>>739792784
nice self report
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>>739792805
If she has shaved, sweaty armpits begging for my tongue, I'll forgive anything.
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>>739792805
If she's cute she can do all that and more.
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Empire=Germany
Kingdom=Ussr
Alliance=Poland
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>>739792643
The cool thing about a good archer (sniper) with the right positioning is that an enemy will attack them at 1-range and be stuck there, and then anyone else that wants to attack will be forced to attack from 2-range and face counter, even if they have a 1-2 range weapon. I had Rebecca sweep a bunch of enemies this way on Rath's join map.
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>>739792869
you're just a cringe faggot trying to fit in so hard
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Who will you guys romance as playable Mark in the inevitable FE7 remake?
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>>739767889
Roleplay the character as someone who isn't strictly you
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>>739792964
Florina. She was one of my first boners as a kid.
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>>739792964
Mark will not be another Chris
Mark will just be (You)
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>>739792941
I just used Raven hand axe and didn't need to deploy a shitty archer
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>>739792964
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>>739792947
Keep digging that hole
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>>739792995
You'd really cuck your bro Hector like that?
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>>739793076
It's okay, he can break Farina's pelvis.
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>>739793076
hector dies anyway. It's what he would want
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>>739792964
It's Lyn, it was always Lyn. She awakened something within me when I first played fire emblem.
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>>739755432

Typical woman.
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Ivy has an ace Mismagius.
Hortensia has an ace Gothitelle.
Alcryst has a Decidueye.
Diamant has an Aegislash.
Alfred and Celine have a Mudsdale and a Florges respecively.
Fogado has a Solrock while Timerra has a Lunatone.
Alear has Latias and Veyla has Latios.
Thoughts?
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>>739793856
Pokemon is gay
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>>739793856
Celine would have a Magearna and Lilligant. They look just like her.
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>>739793856
What FE girls would get a Machamp?
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>>739794121
Mia would be a Fighting-type specialist. Not sure who else.
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>>739793856
now for this one i can safely tell you to go back to /vp/
this is literally tumblr-tier discussion
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>>739794121
Celica.
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>>739792964
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>>739791571
but how will you kill that one spider without the longbow? you'll have to wait an extra turn!
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>>739755432
my favorite is the whole

>Has clandestine meetings with Those Who Slither In the Dark
>supports them by giving them funding, soldiers, weapons
>tells them to attack the church as much as possible using said support; kill as many church knights as possible
>Jeralt, leader of the Knights of Seiros, is killed during one of these attacks

and then later when confronted about her being involved in Jeralt's death, her only defense is

>"UMMMMMM ACTUALLY I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT"

like bitch... really???
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>>739794836
You forgot the best one:
>spent the entire month before Jeralt's death at the hands of "Monica" spending time and planning something with "Monica"
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>>739794762
Not only are you shadowboxing a strawman (literally nobody said you should make Gerik a ranger before that guy brought it up himself), but you're actually making the argument that hero is a no-brainer, which would support anon's point about the poor class balancing.
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>>739793856
>UMM ACTUALLY ITS NOT MY FAULT YOUR DAD DIED!
>Literally, objectively is
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>>739794762
If all you need is a Ranger to do it, then obviously that's a job for Neimi!
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>>739794691
Gold digging whore. She would let anyone hit just for a red gem.
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When you're a sorcerer you need to make sure your summons are effective against men.
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>>739795162
Wrong pegasister
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>>739795179
Ursula NEEDS purple lipstick. It's wrong for her to not have it.
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>>739793856
Goldmary has Gardevoir
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>>739795227
They're all gold diggers anon. Even going back to the original pegasluts in Gaiden.
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>>739793856
>both Brodian bros have a ghost
Zamn
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>>739795392
Palla is pure.
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>>739789921
Is Berserker or Hero better for Ross?
Simple question.
Not "fun" but better.
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>>739795621
Warrior
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>>739795621
berserker because he can rescue drop seth across a river
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>>739755432
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>>739795621
zerker easy
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Should peg girls be forced to give up their wings if they fail the purity test on vagina inspection day?
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>>739768990
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>>739795621
>"Should he also start using swords, or should he be a crit machine with an axe in a game where everything uses lances?"
Tough choice, bro.
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>>739795820
trick question because they lose their purity if their vaginas are inspected
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>>739768990
Sage
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>>739795715
>"So we should kill the mole people?"
>"No, we are going to work with them for the time being."
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>>739794952
>nobody said
The LTCfag logic for 'better option' in FE8 is always the higher move class, bar none. Nuance doesn't matter. For people who actually play the game normally, there are considerations to be made. Great Knight move sucks, but it makes up for it with axes and stats. Falcoknight may not be as combative, but gives swords, better bulk and aid. I already explained Sage vs. MK above. Incidentally, I'd love to hear what your opinion is on the optimal choice for L'Arachel promotion. I feel like that can be a tough one.
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>>739770943
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>>739795162
She would piss on me if I give her a blue/white gem?
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>>739772987
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>>739755432
Literally anything is better than being ruled over by non-humans so Edelgard is the only correct choice.
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>>739792964
the one true green haired goddess Mark was destined for
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>>739796046
>I already explained Sage vs. MK above
Yeah and you were obviously wrong what about it. Gerik does loes out on 1-2 range by going Ranger which is obviously a major downside. The other examples are just "do you want more or less move", in which case the answer is clear.
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Lissa
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>>739796183
>actually green plains
I've been playing FE8 recently, and I am so tired of the stylized piss-yellow grass near the end. And whenever it's green, there's fog.
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>>739786537
Imagine her jerking you off with those fucking gorilla hands
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>>739796184
Are you going Bishop or Valkyrie for Natasha? (You don't have to answer, I already know).
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>>739796041
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>>739796046
>Great Knight move sucks, but it makes up for it with stats
You know what's funny? It actually just doesn't.
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>>739796379
I wouldn't use Natasha since Moulder is way better, but I guess I would choose bishop for slayer if I were forced to use her.
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>>739795867
https://youtu.be/uKe8QQQFl6g?si=e1MIL9DVpiKEPPO5
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>TFW these threads no longer graced by Berniebro's presence
I still miss him, /v/ros...
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>>739794952
I was sharing the LTCfag opinion.
Aside from longbows, ranger also has low enough con for gerik to be rescue dropped.
>>739796046
>L'Arachel
>level 3 staff user joining in the second half of the game
>promotion
ltcfag brain does not compute
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>>739796498
>ltcfag brain does not compute
I like how you just competently laid out why she sucks and then turned it around like it's a good thing
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I want to eat Goldmary's shit...
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>>739796478
FYI He's in the waifu threads on 4+4
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>>739796587
a tragic relapse... his parents forgot to firewall 8REDACTED
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Need porn NOW
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>>739796665
But I don't wanna get banned. Is ecchi okay?
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>>739796665
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>>739796737
Me on the left
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>>739796587
interesting how there are so many fire emblem waifufags yet the fire emblem thread is dead
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>>739796665
sex
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>>739796665
They are dancing :D
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>>739796913
>would make a great couple
>no paired endings
It takes minutes to write multiple of these things. Did they not even try?
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>>739796850
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>>739796947
Why not Louis and Goldmary. One of a gooner and the other wants people to goon to her
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>>739796979
Plegian Celicar.

>>739797019
They would be a terrible couple. Goldmary wants to be a perfect wife for a husband, so that he never looks away from her.
Louis always ships the girls around him, so half his time is spent looking at another woman.
She would be completely crushed by how she can't maintain his attention. She'd feel like a cuck.
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Reminder that Faerghus had like thousands/tens of thousands of excess deaths every year because the Church banned knowledge of crop rotation until it became convenient.
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>>739796947
>nooo why can't I let other men fuck my wives
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>>739797173
>Being this insecure
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>>739797085
>She'd feel like a cuck
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>>739797173
Bold of you to assume I'd marry Chloe.
No, other men can have her. I don't want her.
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Chole
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>>739797452
Why can't Eastern artists draw women with all the appropriate woman hair in all the appropriate woman places?
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>>739797452
You could be posting Goldmammary instead.
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>DUDE FOOD
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>>739797481
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>>739797529
If you got Goldmary to consume something lactation-inducing, like for cows, then Chloe would want to try the breast milk at least once.
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>>739796471
>since Moulder is way better
Oh, I've got the perfect image for this.
>>>20/1 Moulder
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fiinally omething good abut this thread
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post the Fire Emblem
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>>739797635
I would like to repost my Serra
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i want chloe, goldmary, ivy, and all the big titties

>>739797665
but you already posted it
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>>739797637
Ike is gay
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>>739794892
It's funny because you literally get called out on the fact that you're siding with the ones that are responsible for Jeralt's murder. Heck you can also pin the various murders that were happening at the end of the game on Edelgard even though she insists that she's not at fault.
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>>739797648
>they made Bridal Nel, Lapis, and Alcryst instead of Ivy or Goldmary
Lame.
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>>739797796
Lapis a cutie tho
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>>739797796
i just dont care for the other 2 whores in that picture
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>>739797796
I bet those ladies are naked below those towels
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>>739796498
Obviously if you're trying to make L'Arachel work, you're either early promoting her, or putting in some serious grind. Still, which would you pick for her?
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goldmommy thread doko?
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>>739797946
I know Dorothea paid her way through school, but you don't have to be THAT mean to Lapis.
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>>739797898
Lapis IS cute.
But Lapis isn't "got three units in like a year, and had more units than Ivy or Yunaka" cute.
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>>739798034
finally someone with brains
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>>739795621
Fighter is such a terrible promotion bonus for ross compared to pirate that berserker is better by default. in NG+++ Journeyman/Journeyman/Hero has some merit but Pirate/Zerker probably still wins out because of caps.
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>>739798034
>goldmommy
Yes.
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How can anyone compete
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Fish
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>>739798235
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>>739798034
I rather a Citrinne thread, but I guess Goldmary can have one too
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>>739757443
should have been gladiator sandals
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do you like what you see?
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>Hapi rejected Yunaka on Tomodachi Life
:sadge:
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>>739798330
I think this one is my favorite Ivy.
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>>739797635
>moulder is le bad because i need to see the heckin green numbers on my healer after i grind him 40 levels for no reason like a degenerate
nobody cares
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ENTER
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>>739798429
>moulder is le bad
yes
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>>>>
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>>739798763
>hot spring
>"Nohrian"
Funfact: to this day, FEH has still never had ONE Nohr-based seasonal banner, despite Nohr having two canonical holidays (harvest festival and winter solstice).
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>>739798443
Boobs too big
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>Page X
>No porn
Fire EMblem has fallen
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>>739798887
Oh, we're finally on 10.
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>>739798885
w-why is she looking at me like that
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STOP IT DIVINE ONE
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>>739798887
Billions must die
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>official art
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Reminder that it was Engage that killed Cipher.
>Cipher went into 2020 and had Book 4 cards
>Engage was meant to release in 2020 before the delay
>some FEH art for Engage units predates 2019
>so there was likely a hoard of Engage cards made for Cipher that had to go unreleased
>the financial strain from commissioning these cards but not releasing them likely made Cipher unable to go to Book 5
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Marryanne
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>>739799147
>headcanon
>headcanon
>headcanon
is there anything more forced than engage hate
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engage is shit btw
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>>739799270
>is there anything more forced than engage hate
Yeah. Engage.
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Engage in sex
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Okay, but seriously! What's the next thread gonna be about? Stop hating and post suggestions
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>>739799357
>have coitus
>while your ghost friend just floats there and watches
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>>739799380
Everyone's favorite game: Heroes!
FE8 again.
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It's up.
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>>739799380
This is the final FE thread.



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