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Are there any modern games that scratch the PSO itch?
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>>739777967
I shutter to even think of it, but maybe Xenoblade is what you're looking for. Personally I think that "kind of itch" is a bit antiquated, and superseded by the likes of Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth.
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>>739778519
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>killing Boomers all day
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>>739777967
>actually asking for a lobbybased arpg
NGS is really good fun and gets frequent updates.
>actually just wanting to boil in your own shit and piss inside of your depressed millennial nostalgia diaper
You hate videogames and should just end yourself, but take trump with you.
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Nioh?
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>garbage opinion
>unsolicited TDS outburst
Get out.
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>>739777967
the nds pso game
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Atlyss
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>>739777967
There are not modern equivalents.
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>>739777967
>>739779787
If there WAS a modern version, what would it be like? The original PSO was pretty groundbreaking, and it's very hard to replicate something like that.
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PSP2i replicates the feel pretty well (timing feels robust and important to combat like PSO, unlike any other PSU game) and has lots of throwbacks to it. There's a thorough fan translation now, no reason not to play it.
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>>739782560
>PSP game
>modern
anonchama... 2012 was 30 years ago...
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>>739782917
w-well you could upscale it...
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>>739777967
>that screenshot
AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE THAT'S TOO MUCH SOUL
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>>739779972
Lean more into it.
Lots of weapons, many unique weapons, super low drop rates, player trading, more levels, more complex layouts, methodical combat still but smoother
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>>739778819
>Blocks your path
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>>739784015
Maybe. I liked the pacing, the colors, the characters... so for me, it was more about the atmosphere and less so about the mechanics.
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>>739777967
Monster Hunter
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>>739777967
If a game released 7 years ago still counts as modern and you are ok with 2D, then maybe Dragon Marked for Death.
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>>739777967
Atlyss did for me but it's not finished and I'm not sure if it ever will be.
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>>739777967
ATLYSS does, even has some PSO inspirations. Alas, not for everyone.
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>>739778819
dressed for killing giga boomers
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Play it
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I was very addicted to pso back in the day, the only game I have got as addicted was Monster Hunter World, Wilds was sadly not as good but maybe with the expansion it will get better.
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>>739782560
They really need to localize and port psp2i to switch or something.
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>>739784395
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>>739777967
Are you supposed to let your targets get close to you like that when you're a sniper?
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>need more PSO
>buy these 2 figurines and the og manual
feels good
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>>739779702
Give it another 5 years in the oven
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>>739786031
That's a Ramarl, the player's decisions and skill level do not affect the outcome
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>>739786031
The enemies are stupid in PSO so it matters less. Its 100% just a lootgrinder. The only danger ever comes from inexperience or if you play TA runs (speedruns).
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>>739779702
>>739786198
>>739785436
>cringe furry fetishism game
no thanks I'll pass
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>>739786338
Aside from the sliders, and of course mods, there isn't any blatant fetish content in the game unless you make the mistake of playing with others.
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>>739786178
I should grab these one of these days
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>>739777967
GBF Relink is literally PSO done better
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>>739777967
Xenoblade 2 might scratchthe itch. Although it doesn't really play like it. But it's cool enough.
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Warframe came very close for me, but only while making my way through the star chart. Once that was done and I hit "endgame" it went to shit really fast.
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Is this worth playing and going through the hassle of installing the bloat mess that is NGS? I will play it as mostly a single player game and stuff, won't be doing raids or whatever you do in these.
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For me? It is always, and always has been, Ult Camuel.
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Were all the photon bursts just pilla but worse
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>>739784395
Monster Hunter is way more sweaty than PSO. PSO is maximum casual turn your brain off and farm and maybe chat with some people while you do it. With that in mind, the closest thing for that experience is Vanilla WoW, or other similar easy low stress MMOs.
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>>739777967
Strangers of Paradise. Similar level design and combo mechanics.
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>>739787286
The original PSO2? Not really. Story mode for the first 3 campaigns are basically a badly-paced VN with a handful of missions (recycled content from a removed game mode, turned into a cutscene viewer menu), and the main game is just stacking client orders for EXP and buying cheap rare equipment from the market. The game also has no endgame aside from farming an easy emergency mission to buy impossibly expensive cosmetics.
AndI believe the graphics are still fucked (pic related, thanks to NGS overwriting the old lighting engine).
Watch Episode Oracle instead.
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>>739777967
Aside from obvious suggestions like PSP2Infinity and PSZero and Monster Hunter, Shining Soul 2 is like a pocket PSO (multiple characters, multiplayer focus, "one town - various dungeons", secret content that requires rare item drops, dumb NPCs with dumb quests, lots of rare items that make no sense but some can be fused to create more nonsensical items, the bullshit red box appraisal is replaced with bullshit "turn 3 rocks into random equipment" system).
There is also Crystal Chronicles with that "no combo for button smashers" thing, and it's a pretty nice game to play with friends like PSO. You can also play them alone, same for the DS sequels.
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>>739787103
Warframe doesn't remotely fill the same niche. PSO had limited dungeon gauntlets with cool bosses and music with a very grindy leveling experience. Warframe maxes out at level 30 and you customize the frames. Canadians fundamentally do not understand RPGs at all. PSO was inspired by Diablo 1 at the time (go read up on some old interviews it is an interesting story). I really really wish someone made PSO1: 2 but we still haven't seen anything like it. Closest we got was maybe Monster Hunter (the original literally was inspired by PSO afterall) but that still isn't close to what PSO offered. It sucks but we have to hope SEGA says fuck it and remasters it or something.
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>>739778519
>and superseded by the likes of Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth.
lmao
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>>739789969
I played Shining Soul 2 and it's direly bland if played alone. Diablo if it had nothing.
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>>739777967
To be painfully honest with you, not really. There's none. Zero. Zilch. nada.
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>>739786557
honestly in my experience the average atlyss player will avoid being an obnoxious faggot towards you, compared to the average pso gooner
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the latest pso scratches the itch for good
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The absolute stiffness of PSO animations was something you can't do today, but it legitimately made planning your movement and attacks so important that it was an addicting part of the game.
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Have you considered Ephinea?
>>739786292
Ep 2/4 enemies can absolutely fuck you up though, Seabed is spooky. Lots of fun though.
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>>739792971
Diablo if it could be carried around in your pocket for GBA.
and was super anime.

>>739777967
all of my answers have already been given. PSP2i, Shining Soul 2.
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>>739794072
Speaking of 3DS games, how was that Phantasy Star on the DS?
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>>739794236
Pretty good.
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>PSO
I played solo on dolphin and got absolutely annihilated by the first dragon boss. Am I wasting my time ? I really like the atmosphere...
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>>739794541
How is that even possible
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I really wish I liked PSO, it seems like a fun game, but the gameplay just doesn't work for me. I remember playing some version of it at a friend's house between Halo and Champions of Norrath.

Billy didn't let us have our own MAGs for some reason, everyone who started a character at his house had some material or something stolen by him.
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>>739794236
It's the most similar game to PSO but the limitations of the system are somewhat grating, like every room being a new loading door.
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>>739794881
kek
That's fucked
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>>739794541
should probably play on ephinia blue burst
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>>739777967
I miss base PSO2.
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>>739794541
If you play correctly in PSO you generally don't get hit (with some exceptions). This includes the dragon boss. Should be soloable at any level, albeit if you go in too low level it will take a while to whittle him down.
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>>739777967
Stranger of Paradise is pretty good. It's more like a PSU2 but like... Way better. Atlyss but it's pretty content dry.

>>739778860
>NGS is really good fun and gets frequent updates.
lmao what.

>>739786178
I just completed the set. Found the special edition only one in Japan somehow. Never thought I'd see it.
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>>739778973
Reddit, Twitter, and Bluesky must be doing ban waves. Lately 4chan has been full of TDS espousing faggot retards.s
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>>739777967
People always post nostalgiabait about PSO but they would NEVER EVER EVER boot up EphiniaPSO which is still incredibly active and a great community with regular events
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>>739777967
Did people actually like this gameplay?
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>>739793774
This. PSO was so far the first and only game where I hard focused on autistically matching up animation frames for maximum effect.
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>>739795491
I've probably put over a thousand hours on this server by now. I'm too well geared, there's no point in playing after a certain point of leveledness and gearedness you just destroy everything without even trying.
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>>739794541
Nah, you're not wasting your time if you enjoyed the atmosphere, which is about 80% of the game's overall charm. It really feels like an old Sega Genesis/Megadrive RPG but brought into that chunky, but utterly soulful pseudo-6th Gen 3D. The music also feels like something someone with a Yamaha synth as they had in the OG Megadrive would make if they had far less limitations with it.

If the game challenges you, then all for the better. Unless you play online, the solo game can get awfully lonely. Half the fun is that other people were playing it too back then, and you could join others, compare your loot finds, and trade.
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>atmosphere
so you liked Forest and Mines
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>>739795630
The music guy for PSO is a genius, he composed and scored the intro song too. He also said in interviews he was disappointed the Dreamcast's limitations meant that his tracks phasing in and out of battle and calm states couldn't be done properly so its very abrupt in the game
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>>739784015
Warframe?
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>>739778519
I just want to congradulate you.
For being the darkest nigger ape with the shittiest taste.
Nothing is wrong with PSO, and recommending the disgraceful ff7 remakes is just sad.
Please find a ditch to crawl into then die.
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>>739795583
Yeah well "thousands of hours" is kind of the limit with PSO I think. Early MMOs were not built with those playtimes in mind, outside of endlessly grinding for perfect HIT% weapons or something. And like you mention, that doesn't actually matter because the game isn't hard enough as to require them. I'm only level ~160 with decent gear and I already feel like I've run out of stuff to do. These days PSO is my "chill with friends" game.
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>>739795491
I do tho, even if the devs are being faggots about this years anniversary event
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>>739777967
Monster Hunter sorta
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>>739777967
Xenoblade X.
It even have online.
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>>739786941
I played and 100%'d Relink in about 200 hours. It was a great game. But I felt like it was over too quick. I was still interested in the game and the online was already dying. Going to pick it up again with the DLC dropping and probably going to start from scratch. The grind was long yeah but manageable.
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Does Guild Wars 1 count?
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>>739797073
No.
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>>739797104
I've never played it before but is the game not about running dungeons in groups of 1-4 to get better loot to run harder dungeons to get better loot?
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>>739795808
Ruins is sick as fuck too, Cave has its beautiful moments even if its the weakest of the Ep 1s, and Seabed is fucking literally drowning in atmosphere. The lost technology with the reflections and the Sinow Zoas is beautiful. Episode 4 has atmosphere too but I don't like Episode 4 because its a pain in the dick so it loses a lot of its charm for me personally, even if its fucking gorgeous sometimes. Feels really silly to meme on someone for praising the games atmosphere when its atmosphere is so beloved that it frequently shows up in environment/location threads
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>>739777967
No and there never will be. Any attempts to recreate it will be missing the secret sauce and feel forced.
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Everyone is cool until someone busts out the Quadfluid
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>>739788613
I think PSO was very sweaty in the sense that the droprates were unbelievably abysmal, and shit like S-rank weapons were pain in the dick. Monster Hunter is a more complicated game but it's also way more generous.
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This thread has convinced me that the next Switch game I should play is the copy of Xenoblade X I've had collecting dust for a bit, since I've been working on my backlog. Does one need a keyboard to play it, or just drop in and out of rooms? How's the online work compared to PSO? Am I gonna have to finally make friends on Nintendo or something to enjoy it?

On an unrelated note, I recently downloaded PSO Episode 3 after not playing for like 20+ years and wow, that game is a lot rougher than I recall. Maybe it was better when I had better cards and later in the game when I played it back around 2005ish, but it was such a slog going through all the menus from what I remember a few months ago.
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>>739777967
Xenoblade X
Sword Art Online games (you didn't asked for only good ones)
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What specific class gives you the widest breadth of the PSO experience? Certainly not any of the casts, right?
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>>739797169
Guild Wars is an extremely horizontally oriented game. You max out your level extremely fast and after that it's mainly a game about collecting stuff for fun. PSO is way more vertical.
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>>739794072
This game was pretty fun, albeit pretty badly balanced. I never got the chance to play too much multiplayer in it. I remember trying to play netplay with friends over Citra emulation and it didn't work though unfortunately.
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>>739797169
>I've never played it before but is the game not about running dungeons in groups of 1-4
You run in group of 4-8. You can never really run alone in GW1 unless its PreSearing. Otherwise, you need a group or die. There are NPC that you can group with, and for the longest time, its preferable that way.
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>>739797856
HUnewearl if you like melee, RAmarl if you like guns, FOmar/l if you want to struggle.
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>>739793774
I think Souls games were kind of the modern equivalent. People don't mind sluggish animations anymore.
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>>739777967
I miss being a kid.
>>739789594
Holy shit I did not realize just how bad the graphics "upgrade" was.
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>>739797512
Xenoblade anything is nothing like PSO gameplay wise. Its comparable to PSO in a sense that Japan rarely ever makes sci-fi or space sci-fi games. Basically rare as shit and a retard comparison just because its sci-fi. Only similarities is you exploring an alien planet. The online portion is also nothing like PSO or very many games really. When you start the X and go online, you are automatically put in a party/squad of 20 or 30 people. You don't see the other players but you all share quests and events and everyday your squad receives some quests and if anyone in the squad finishes any other those quests, the whole squad gets the rewards. Or at least that's how all this worked on the WiiU. Don't know what they changed in the DE Switch version. You can't even call it a MMO let alone a raid type game like MH and PS. There are raid bosses but I forgot how they worked plus never got to experience online since it was long shutdown by the time I played Xenoblade X on the WiiU.
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PLEASE GIVE ME A MODERN PSO PLEASE SEGA MAKE IT HAVE SOULFUL AREAS AND JANK ANIMATIONS AND LOW DROP RATE RARES AND FUNNY MISSIONS AND REALLY FUCKED UP DARK MISSIONS AND JUST HAVE A BOX PRICE AND RELEASE EXPANSIONS WITH NEW AREAS AND MISSIONS AND LOBBIES.

NOBODY OTHER THAN GOONER MODBEASTS WANTS OPEN WORLD BARBIE DOLLHOUSE SIMULATOR. PEOPLE WANT SOUL
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PEOPLE WANT AN OLDER STYLE GAME BUT WITH A MODERN COAT OF PAINT IT WOULD BE REFRESHING, WHY DO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING NIGGER MAKE IT DATED AND JANKY
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You literally just have to use the PSP2i combat system minus the combo system and you'll have a perfect gameplay paradigm.
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I played PSP2 when it came out with my friends back in the day. Is PSP2i worth going back to emulated and solo?
If so, what is the recommended build?
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>>739798703
all PSO games have combos and psp2i is lock on roll slop, nobody wants that other than redditors. everybody likes the methodical pace of pso
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>>739797856
RAmarl is the most versatile character in my eyes.
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>>739798864
PSP2i is like a straight up upgrade. You also also import your PSP2 save, regardless of region if you do it through PPSSPP. The game isn't that hard so I don't know why solo would be an issue, you can even set up local co-op rooms on PPSSPP.
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>>739789969
thanks for the recs
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>>739798950
Stiffness isn't the important part of PSO over its shittier imitators, it's the importance of pressure and timing, which PSP2i nails.
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>>739799123
>You also also import your PSP2 save, regardless of region if you do it through PPSSPP
Yeah, well I am not digging out my PSP so it would be a fresh save.
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>>739777967
This was essentially the last "classic" PSO game to be released. Online servers are dead, but there is a discord you can play with other people.

Otherwise no, there's no modern game quite like old PSO.
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>>739799393
It's not even that bad that it's dead, you can still form full parties with any NPC in the game as far as I know, as well as with your other character slots controlled by AI.
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>>739799553
I'm still in awe that in the leap from PSO to PSU to PSP2i, the NPC AI just learned how to do a 3-hit weapon combo and switch loadouts periodically for no reason.
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guild wars
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>>739799381
>Yeah, well I am not digging out my PSP so it would be a fresh save.
I know did and it was worth it. The save import feature in the PSP Phantasy Star games was pure kino. Even lets you use your character from PSP2 as a party member in PSP2i. I really miss when games used to do cool stuff like this.
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>>739799653
Guild wars is not modern.
Guild wars can legally drink in the USA
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>>739799653

>>739798046
>>739797925
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>>739799759
GW is currently receiving live updates and has been for the past 6+ months which is more than PSO can say.
>>739799912
Nice. That anon is dumb for assuming it is a vertical-progression raid-oriented game when it is more focused on build variety for specific zones/dungeons.
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>>739797237
I will never understand people who make twink casts
they made my nigga RAcast loom over the entire box art and you guys wanna make em skinny and weak

THE GUN HES HOLDING IS BIGGER THAN HIM. HE CANNOT LIFT THAT UP AND AIM IT. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?
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modern games will never have the soul games from 00s had
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>>739797856
casts are a critical part of the experience; a modern game would never have the balls to do something like the fleshy/cast divide with spells/traps
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>>739799953
Everquest 1 still get updates, nobody would call Everquest modern. Or Runescape.
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>>739797856
HUcast will make you appreciate how intricate the animation frames are for melee.
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i really hate to admit it, but atlyss really is the closest thing to pso 1
yes, I hate the furry goon slop too. and yes, it will take this one dev atleast fifty years to finish the game. but its the truth
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>>739800048
Guild Wars got a mobile release. Guild Wars is more modern than you would like.
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>>739799982
I have like 4 RAcasts because I have autism, they can't all be big boys. My HUcast is also beefy, though honestly Kireek is pretty twinky and he's the iconic HUcast
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>>739800134
A game getting a mobile release does not make it modern. It just makes it supported. Stop being silly.
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Guild Wars 1 is getting more expansions soon. They moved devs from GW2 to the GW1 team.
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>>739797856
HUnewearl and RAmarl
they get to actually use weapons and the girl characters get access to the most spells without just being a flat out mage.
you will also realize that none of their spells do any meaningful damage without force stats to back it up, and the entire advantage is just casting shifta + free telepipes.

spell damage is half of the spell's base damage and the other half is the mind stat. but you can still do cool stuff like turbo farm weak enemies with gifoie, blast open groups of boxes, or chip away at boss fights when they are normally out of range
only forces get the choice to be the "nuke" playstyle, but having spells at all will give a surprising amount of utlity.
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>>739800365
>They moved devs from GW2 to the GW1 team.
I don't trust those fuckers after this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxTiwKvp348
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>>739800142
twink anime characters is just something ive always hated dearly, but i understand
i hate fromsoft games - some things in this life will just be me vs the world
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>>739777967
Booma?
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>>739798586
>PLEASE GIVE ME A MODERN PSO
they made pso2 new genesis just for you, bro. you did indeed, get what you ask for
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>>739786941
Prove it
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>>739798586
You have NGS. Enjoy your AI slop
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>>739800915
That's like saying any random Modern AAA game is what the playerbase is asking for. They're all horrible bastardizations of once good series.
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Tiktok minheights
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NGS is overhated.
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Anyone want to play on Ephinea together? It will be my first time.
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>>739801516
>have all these events to tell you to grind current gear
>grind gears
>lol we just release a free gear set that BETTER than the gear you just grind
And they did it again with today's headline. There is a reason they get hated.
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>>739801561
check /vm/ or make a thread there if there isn't one. It's the best place to get groups together.
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>>739777967
I quite literally do not need more
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>>739801669
I could go for an Episode 5, alternate classes, more weapons, more weapon types, more bosses, more enemies, basically more.
What we have is great but I'm a greedy old bastard.
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>>739801516
it deserves every bit of hate it gets and then some
It's nearly 5 years now and there's STILL only Halpha, the shitty VR training sim, the floating DOLLS buttplug, and the city. The """content""" never changes in any meaningful way, it's the same as it's always been. Gear doesn't matter, there's no reason to do any of this """content"""" to chase gear, because it's all the same slight power increase with some meaningless potential gimmick every time, and they will also just give you welfare shit that's more or less the same for free later on anyways
The ONLY thing that has any effort put into it is the fucking AC scratches. In fact that's literally the only reason to do anything ingame, to get your dripfeed of n-meseta for the week, maybe try to get whatever chase item they threw in the latest """"content"""" that drops at a 0.0000001% chance that sells for 40m meseta (you will NEVER drop this item) so you can save up for a month and maybe afford maybe one of the items from the current AC scratch on the player market before it goes away.
It's trash made to sell microtransactions, the """game""" is an afterthought at best, tale as old as fucking time, but Sega went the extra mile to make the game part of this absolutely worthless
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>>739799982
ATP at every size, you bigot.
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>>739801516
imagine being a shabbos goy for S*ga of all companies...
at least f(ourth)pwp made it obvious he was baiting
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>>739801369
thats exactly right and that IS what im saying.
this dude said in all caps that he wants a modern pso. so...precisely what is it that you imagine when you think of a modern AAA gaming?
not sure if you check player counts, but gacha slop and multiplayer addiction machines are currently pulling more numbers than the PSO ephinea server or some shit.

the golden days of AAA, especially sega, are long gone. we are not getting old sega or old sonic team back. not only is sega too scared to make a decent risk anymore, but they are retarded and allergic to money.
they cant even make a sonic game anymore, frontiers had zero decent level design or any of that sega charm. they could have made a dedicated chao game to compete with animal crossing for the past 20 years like most sega fans have been asking for.
Jet Set Radio reboot got teased and revealed way after fans made their own successor, and theres still zero news of that weird jsr reboot
yakuza is really the face of sega more than sonic is at this point. phantasy star is not even in that conversation. phantasy what? phantasy who?
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At this point, just play Roguelike like Risk of Rain 2, Gunfire Reborn, and Endless Alice.
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>>739801669
I dont understand why they tweak the balance just slightly to make other weapons shine more than the meta ones. nerf absolutely nothing but just buff some garbage rares
make the TP sacrifice special not fucking useless if diska of braveman is just hanging out, chilling. all of late game is just using berserk specials or instakill needle rifle.
im sure they have considered it and just decided "nah"
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>>739802165
I get what you mean, but just because we must endure such a reality doesn't mean we can't yearn for a better world where we do get a worthy successor to these great games (many of which were themselves worthy successors to past installments)
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>>739802214
i played a ton of ror2 and I can say it does not even remotely make me feel as cozy as pso
entirely different aesthetic and gameplay. i grade you a D+, do better.
who the fuck plays risk of rain and thinks "ah yes, just like pso"??? It plays more like pve league of legends
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>>739802214
the faces in endless alice are so fucked
like always way whiter than the skin of the neck and it's noitceable
proportions with little clothes also look like shit
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is monster hunter anything like PSO? I never hear of the comparison but the raw gameplay should be similar despite the different vibe
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>>739802813
No.
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>>739802813
It's supposedly inspired by PSO but isn't much alike
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>>739801516
it's not hated enough
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>>739782560
Techs and guns are still shit to use, like nearly everything that came after the original PSO.
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>>739802813
Monster Hunter is to PSO what PSO is to Diablo, so not quite but you can feel the inspiration. Honestly, PSO is closer to Diablo than MH is to PSO
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>>739802325
I'm a bit nostalgic for the wacky balance they had back on Schthack with combo unlocked weapons and stuff. It was a completely unbalanced meta but it was fun. We need new servers and meta shakeups like Turtle was for Vanilla WoW, could potentially inject a lot of life into the game. Definitely not going to get it from Ephinea though, that ship has sailed.
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why did they name it shithack? its like the jokes write themselves
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>>739803151
I was a fairly surprised they even added divine filter for HP to be honest. Like RA needs to be able to bulldoze ep4 100% of the time rather than half the time.
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>>739803074
Techs got wildly more fun and effective in Infinity, you're only right about guns.
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>>739803352
HP special is only good on RAmarl isn't it? You need MST for it. For such a rare weapon Heaven Punisher is pretty underwhelming (very cool visually though). If I had my way a lot of the uber rare weapons would be boosted in power and utility and super easy to acquire stuff like vendor-bought 50Hit charge special weapons would be nerfed.
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>>739798036
I played with my bf through citra netplay and it worked fine.
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>>739801669
Is it easy to set up a self-hosted PSO:BB?
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>>739801340
this shit is so ass, dqx is also doing this retarded chatbot shit too. I saw someone talking to a chatbot npc in another video game and they would try to do conversation starters but it was unhinged shit like "what is your most embarrassing moment" like don't answer this shit what the fuck is wrong with you
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>>739801516
It really isn't, it should be hated more.
t. "plays" it daily
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>>739803573
You get like an extra 50% DPS from max mst RAmarl over a cast, but even a gang of racaseals will zap through an entire room of lizards in seconds if they all have HP.
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>>739803731
>Is it easy to set up a self-hosted PSO:BB?
Haven't tried it myself, but this looks like the easiest way to host your own server right now:
https://github.com/fuzziqersoftware/newserv
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>>739804207
It's an incredibly rare weapon that has no use outside of lizard removal so I'd say at that point you have more than earned your lizard remover.
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>>739777967
Honestly nothing really. Sure you got stuff like diablo and oldschool monhun but still doesn't quite hit the same. osrs kinda filled that void but reddit ruined that shit of course. Check out private servers like ephinea I guess.
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>>739804525
Anybody got the imgur link that has all these webms?
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>>739802165
>739800915
>they made pso2 new genesis just for you, bro. you did indeed, get what you ask for
>this dude said in all caps that he wants a modern pso. so...precisely what is it that you imagine when you think of a modern AAA gaming?
wow you are such a reddit genius you really showed everyone how intellectual you are. obviously I was talking about a new actual pso game as dream game I even detailed it exactly, not your monkey paw autism and doomerposting about new games. I literally say in the post right below it
>PEOPLE WANT AN OLDER STYLE GAME BUT WITH A MODERN COAT OF PAINT IT WOULD BE REFRESHING, WHY DO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING NIGGER MAKE IT DATED AND JANKY>
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>>739777967
I wish more games did the 'sci fi at first but turns into horror' that PSO and Halo did
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I'm tired of the FOMOslop. It's a miracle how Sega can still run this game through whale paypigs.
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Zoomers will never understand what peak design is. FFS the ost is algo fucking goat.
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>>739805049
I'm shocked NGS is still going. Almost as shocked as I was seeing how long it took them to fucking bring over PSO2 to the west.
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I WANT TO GO BACK ANON.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFkceXQFUEs&list=RD5G4bAvuxlfc&index=3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67GY_bRT6GI&list=RD67GY_bRT6GI&start_radio=1
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>>739805175
In the recent financial report it's stated that their current free games, including NGS, are performing as expected. They're happy with them and investing further.
If you look on Steam top sellers NGS is constantly above some surprising stuff, it's sorted by current sales updated daily(?).
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>>739805195
dreamcast is just an aesthetic that has not been matched man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SBKj5ofGVw
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>>739805195
>a lush load
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>>739786338
you're the type of fucking nigger ruining everything
you're so mudhut low iq to actually try things to form opinions
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>>739805175
I got out of NGS a couple years ago thankfully, but the fact remains that if you want that tech-fantasy theme and aesthetic, phantasy star pretty much remains the only game in town, and that's usually been the case. Even Star Ocean doesn't quite scratch it.
Some people just can't give it up in the end. It was fucking hard for me to do it too.
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>>739805195
>>739805256
The video game industry lost a part of its soul after Sega left the console market
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>>739805053
To be fair, OST is something the online franchise has almost never gotten wrong. NGS is a little weaker, but still pretty solid with some genuinely wild shit mixed in. Even Universe was overloaded with both comfy "I'm home..." shit like raffon meadow, and absolute bangers like machine sparx.
I mean damn, even EP3 had Tower of Caelum.
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>Install PSO2 NGS out of morbid curiosity
>Immediately bombarded with anime characters and an "everyone dies" opening
>Get to first town
>Pop up showing literally 20+ gacha lootboxes
>Uninstall

I miss when games were simpler. Perhaps PSO was a bit too simple (it's just a diablo 2 lootgrinder), but it's much better than whatever the fuck Sega is doing these days.
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>>739805545
EP III has some solid bangers anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N8d3D30UhM&list=RDhLUDzWzw5jw&index=2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ6ZW5wv13A&list=RDCZ6ZW5wv13A&start_radio=1

more pso classics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DO7EXDGP-k&list=RD4DO7EXDGP-k&start_radio=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLUDzWzw5jw&list=RD4DO7EXDGP-k&index=2
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>>739798519
Sticking to sci-fi is a clear fire way to never get that itch scratched. This thread has convinced me most of /v/ has shit taste and cares more about the superficiality of things.
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>>739805718
I'm not actually fond those two from III. Later IDOLA themes have a habit of getting too weird. Like, immortal feather is fucking hype when it cuts in in-game, but out of context it doesn't sound so great. Ditto divine blade.
The other one from III that I kinda liked was Fountain of Mortis.
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>>739803345
All the big names associated one way or another with PSO are fucking weird, now that you mention it.
Like, why the fuck was the scriptkiddy boogieman named Broomop of all things.
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>>739805718
>DICE
>SET
>MOVE
>ACTION
>DEFENSE
>DRAW
>CHANGE
I love Ep3 so much it's unreal.
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>>739777967
holy shit that takes me back, i remember racing home from school with my neighbor so we could farm mag materials and murder those stupid birds. is it even possible, outside of emulation, to play this online anymore? thatd be a fun trip down memory lane
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>>739804583
https://imgur.com/user/Nostalgio
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>>739806108
wtf are you talking about , ep III lobby bgm is goat asf.
>>739806526
I know anon that game had so much potential, I barely touched online tournaments, some cards could only drop there.

Craking Boosters was so fucking cool.
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>>739806631
https://ephinea.pioneer2.net/
you can always find people playing, its pretty popular for a private server. it is blue burst though and episode 4 sucks dick
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>>739806631
Ephinea literally has multiple hundred players at peak hours:
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>>739806772
Thank you; I'll be sure to save it this time.
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>>739806773
I thought it was pretty clear what I was talking about. I didn't shit on the songs(other than my commentary about IDOLAs,) just said I wasn't fond of them.
If you feel it's that good, great, good for you. Why so insecure about it.
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>>739777967

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3097510/Bounty_Brawl_Most_Wanted/
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>>739777967
atlyss
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>>739806868
shame most of them are trannies
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>>739807137
>isometric fast-paced Action Roguelite
Hmm, nyo
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>>739807275
Really? I've never noticed. I've played with tons of randoms and no one has ever mentioned trannies or anything like that
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>>739807421
don't join the discord
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>>739807306
Watching a no-commentary on youtube of it, I can kinda see where the suggestion came from. Normal gameplay doesn't look like the spastic shit you usually think of from a description like that.
It didn't really look like something that'd scratch an old-school PSO-itch either to me though.
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wtf is this thread post some toons
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Sega really shat on the ip by endorsing global trannies.
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>>739807716
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To this day I never got a Psycho Wand for my force
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U guys threw me into researching outside of here for games that scratch that itch. The answers I found were Strangers of P, Remnant II and Freedom Wars Remastered (i knew about this vita exclusive, but the remaster looks like shit)
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>>739805175
Tranny whales keeping it afloat to ERP like a jap version of Second Life. I don't think anyone is playing the actual content.
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>>739805175
>>739807716
I have never seen a good looking NGS toon. Is there any 4chan catalogues or anything like that?
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>>739777967
>modern game
Just keep playing PSO.
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Do you think they will ever do a faithful remaster of pso? I'm sure a lot of people remember it fondly and it wouldn't cost that much to host like 5 lobby ships and have everything else be peer 2 peer with brief server alive checks. Private server numbers aren't a good indicator of potential player counts, I think a real pso remaster could sell a decent amount especially with a switch 2 release. Or maybe some indie developers will make a spiritual successor.
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>>739811413
Kill yourself already holy fuck.
You are miserable, your childhood was garbage and you are only still here to be a depressed shitstain on your parents carpet.
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>>739811449
why are ngs players so mentally unwell
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>Kill yourself already holy fuck.
>You are miserable, your childhood was garbage and you are only still here to be a depressed shitstain on your parents carpet.
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>>739811223
there used to be an NGS thread on /vg/ with really hot 4chan sluts but the thread died. maybe some anons saved a few.
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>>739811751
hello gwiz
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>>739777967
I grew up playing PSO and the only game that scratches the same itch for me is, strangely, OSRS
>the tick system is very reminiscent of PSO's combat, where you're basically fighting to a rhythm
>can grind whatever you want to your heart's content
>absurdly low drop rates, but once you get the drop, you're good
>slow-paced and aesthetically pleasing in OSRS's case, it's mostly the music and sound design, the graphics obviously suck
>great game for turning your brain off with a predetermined goal
OSRS is just PSO, but with a goofy, high fantasy aesthetic and you can just fish or cut trees on Ragol instead of doing nothing but combat
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>>739778819
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I only played offline with friends. My friend's dad let us play in their game room. It was fucking awesome.
>UI changing the resolution of the video port
>MAGs that ate shit you didn't want mid-dungeon and discovering they can transform
>Discovering chaining photon bursts
>Appraising equipment together like a slot machine
>Being scared of the final level in episode 1 with the sorrowful but upbeat music
>Hogging red boxes for no good reason other than they're rare
>Staying still in front of an enemy with good EVA to "tank" and let your RA and FO friends do the work
>Getting shat on in Episode 2 and going back to completing episode 1 levels
Going back and doing the solo quests many years later with ephinea really satisfied my curiosity. You get cool unique weapons in single player too.
>>739811413
I'd rather not even see them try or announce any attempt.
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>>739779702
>>739785436
You niggers keep shilling this trash, but when i looked at it, it tuns out the game is just another spergzoomer gottagofast speedclear mongoloidshit.
Nothing in common with what made PSO good.
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>>739777967
The harsh truth is that there isn't
all suggestions are wrong, they only have 1 thing out of everything else that made pso special
>>739795491
>Ephinea
>Great community
Devs are retards seething that people wanted to have F U N hunting stuff in forest that they gutted the entirely of the anniversary event
They're still keeping the project closed source and then get mad about people asking for ETA for updates instead of letting others help them
I could go on forever, the only time i've seen the "good" community was when i saw some dude stream pso and the viewers were cycling around to play all together and having fun with unoptimized setups
>>739802813
They're like cousins, MH is more focused on boss fights and gathering materials to craft armor and weapons than finding them from the monsters
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>>739789594
>Most requested feature at that time was improved graphics
>so they tacked on a new lighting engine that ruined base games's graphics
This will never not be funny to me especially because of how ugly and plastic NGS character models looked until they finally added the toon shader.
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>>739778973
It's not "TDS" when cost of living is higher than it ever had been, inflation has skyrocketed, gas keeps going up, tariff dollars are looted from consumers and freely given to corporations, he declares himself immune from tax audits, wants a $2 billion dollar slush fund for bribes and $10 billion dollars because how dare anyone think he cheated on his taxes. Oh and he keeps starting and prolonging wars. Worst president of all time, and if America had any sense he'd be forcibly removed by now along with the rest of his idiot cronies and if we're lucky you might fall in after. You retarded nigger.
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>>739812763
Nigger, if you want a slow paced dungeon crawler beat'em up, go play Crimson Tears or something.
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>>739813157
>if you want a slow paced dungeon crawler beat'em up
that's a lot of words for "pso-like", which Atlyss is NOT
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>>739813030
literally none of that effects you. go outside.
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>>739794236
Finally. A chance to talk about Phantasy Star Zero in a thread that won't die in ten posts. Honestly, I can only recommend it for two reasons.
1. The novelty of "dude, they got this running on a DS." There are just better action rpgs out there.
2. The Totally Spies camp of anime fetishes/tropes they put in a game for kids.
>Loli party member gets molested by a tentacle monster
>Robot party member is a pervert
>Big tiddy robot lady
>One of the final bosses is a giantess that got corrupted
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>>739798407
>Holy shit I did not realize just how bad the graphics "upgrade" was.
You dunno the half of it. All characters became clay, certainly never got updated with NGS asset quality. All outdoor environments look flat because they can't accommodate for PBR lighting that the NGS assets use. All indoor environments completely and utterly lack lighting entirely so all depth is lost from every scene or area. It was a bare minimum effort so NGS character assets could be backported and nothing more.
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>>739813823
>>Loli party member gets molested by a tentacle monster
>>Robot party member is a pervert
>>Big tiddy robot lady
>>One of the final bosses is a giantess that got corrupted
What the fuck?! That sounds awesome, actually!
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>>739814098
Couldn't they have made a separate game but have the two share cosmetics? It's not like gear from PSO2 means anything in NGS. Having both games share cosmetics would be pretty easy since they don't have stats and are basically just flagged as unlocked or not on your account.
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>>739814482
SEGA is retarded and probably thought the two game would compete with each other
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>>739777967
Atlyss was probably the closest and development of that is at a snail's pace.
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can you play pso alone and still have fun?
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>>739814596
I heard that the reason they don't have many people working on the game is because pso2 uses some old coding language that people don't really use anymore. The decision to tack NGS on ultimateñy fucked both games over
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>>739814858
I mean you can but why? after awhile you will cave in and be social and help others grind, you will burn out a lot quicker playing entirely solo
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>>739814858
The best part of the game is getting to ultimate with your shit self found gear and getting your first heavenly/battle
That's as far as you can go without getting burned out though, everything goes faster with a full team with some rare exception where single player scaling is better
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>>739777967
PSO2?
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>>739814858
Not as fun as playing with friends and trading rare items, but it's still an enjoyable grindfest.
But PSZero and PSP2Infinity have more single-player content and are "balanced" for solo players (nicer item drop rates, all weapon types are available at level 1, item drop tables based on your class rather than character's name, etc.).
Most of the cool stuff in PSO is a high-level rare drop, including entire weapon categories like katanas, double sabers, visible shields and race/gender-specific equipment, and all item drop tables (called Section ID) are based on your character's name to incentive item trading (a Skyly-type name will find unique swords that a Yellowboze-type name can't find), but you can use a name calculator to get a specific drop table.
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>>739814937
From what I do know of the PSO history, NGS is very much probably using code and underlying engine design that dates all the way back to the Dreamcast era pipeline since Sonic Adventure. PSO got iterated to PSU, which itself shared elements with Sonic and other Sega games of the time in code, and then PSO2 was directly based off of PSU + the PSP entries, and then NGS brought itself up from the top of that. So we're talking 26-28 years of iteration minimum. It's not much wonder NGS is largely starting to port bosses and now entire content areas like the goddamn Ruins from PSO2 now, it's not only cost effective but the jank I've seen on the NGS originals is absolutely not even shit PSO2 stumbled into on the same level.
>the very first region boss of the dragon can straight up clip itself into geometry so entire weakpoints become unable to be attacked
>proceed to make a later region be able to freely spawn the boss and regularly throw it in on later event stuff in tighter areas that tend to cause this to happen
It's like they wanted to have problems.
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>>739805369
ok furry fetishist
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>tfw you are just a monkey chilling in Gal Da Val island and some Aliens come to steal your Lames
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UDinSt0IwQ
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>>739777967
No, and you could just play PSO. Private servers are active.
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>>739778860
>NGS is really good fun and gets frequent updates
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If you just want the addictive looter / rare drop gameplay, and can live without the sci-fantasy setting and trappings, this is a good choice.

>Lots of weapon variety
>rare (RED, even) item drops
>probably the best third person shooting in the genre
>can group up to 4 players in an instance (up to 8 for raids)
>Classes in addition to making your own builds into classic roles like tank, dps, healer, etc
>shit ton of content that will last you hundreds of hours
>constant new events and updates rolling
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>>739814858
That was how I experienced it as a kid because getting my console connected to the internet was not feasible.
It was still an unforgettable experience for me just due to the atmosphere alone.
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I love playing FO cause I’m a masochist
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PSO is fun until you get to Ult and realize the only class worth playing is Ranger and everyone else gets stomped into the dust
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>>739806526 EP3 was such a let down for me. Conceptually it's really cool, but playing it is such a drag (even at 1.5x speed) and does not feel like it has any sense of balance. Perhaps I got filtered because boxing in and moving back was just too viable of a strat, dunno.
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>>739817545
>you don’t need FO’s
You can smell the RAmarfag armpits from this post
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Always kind of wondered how well backporting PSO's aesthetics to a first person dungeon crawler would feel. More optimistic Metroid Prime?
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>>739818295
Putting ramar in the same tier S ramarl is generous
All they can do is solo efficiently and RAmarl still does it better.
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PSO has grown stale to me. Why hasn't anyone figured out how to mix monsters with areas yet? What about injecting new monsters, or weapon animations? New areas? What if HUnewearl wasn't hot garbage and had a special trait where they specialize in claws? Or if Ephinea had a seasonal server with increased EXP/DROP and completely shuffled, undisclosed drop chart to incentivize info sharing? What if weapons dropped with ATP variance like armors did? What if partisans didn't hard stop at Asteron Belt? I'm literally throwing ideas at the wall here.
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>>739818295
True enlightenment Tier: Every class is good as long as you got the proper equipment and know how to play the game.

>>739818475
Ephinea has Omnispawns (monsters in areas they dont belong) in some quests during events, mainly anniversary and xmas.
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>>739818475
ephinea completely destroyed the anniversary because people were having fun farming exp and drops
The only way to make it less stale would be to reverse engineer it and make it work offline, that way you get people to make silly mods or total overhauls, but no one seems to care
Something like that exist for the gamecube version, i think it's called Return to Ragol
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>>739818475
PSO is an old game and a lot of data is "hardcoded" in the game client (rather than the server files) so modifying the game isn't as easy as turning Torrent into a F-16 in Elden Ring.
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>people comparing pso to atlyss
This is the most retarded comparison I’ve seen people make. Atlyss doesn’t have buffs, debuffs, healing, you can’t jump dash in pso either. Are people just comparing the dungeon crawler aspect? Atlyss is just a generic hack and slash, its not even that interesting despite weapon variety because none of the weapons are interesting unlike PSO where every major weapon has a secondary effect
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>>739818989
>ephinea completely destroyed the anniversary because people were having fun farming exp and drops
The quests are being changed this year because most people can't work as a community and all they do is spam the piss easy forest quest for max profit instead of playing every quest equally to unlock more boosts.
Congratulations!
>(You)
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>>739818716
Erm if you know how to play the game then defense is kind of a wasted stat so you are wrong.
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>>739778819
Boomer is our world but you can say gobooma
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>>739777967
What itch? The "I'm 10 and don't know any better?" itch? Dofus, MapleStory, RuneScape should keep you busy for a while
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>>739819684
Incorrect considering the amount of undodgeable attacks
Specializing in defense like racaseal does tho makes her into the worst ranger for sure.
Worst class in the game is Humar. I would say RAmar is equally bad if it wasn’t a ranger but its really at best on par with Racaseal since the latter has traps despite being weaker
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>>739813290
Ironically, all of it affects you if you go outside more often than not.
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>>739819432
It's not the community fault if they designed tower/seabed quests to be as painful as possible to clear
They could've fixed it by making it a quest kill count or a single quest clear count with the lowest one giving more points
Even an easier version of the least played quest would've been better, but they are prideful fucks who would never admit they are wrong
>B-BUT MUH FOREST
I know this concept might shock you but people want to obtain the weapon they hunt for instead of trading them
If the issue is people spamming forest for torr checks, maybe they should've made the other quests worth farming
I've yet to see people complain about PWand lily checks, which is even more braindead than torr checking the forest quest or optimizing TE
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>>739820032
>Worst class in the game is Humar
But I play v1
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>>739819983
>Strategy
>2D
>Western
not like PSO. you might as well have said Mewgenics.
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>>739787286
still pretty good to experience imo
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>>739779787
Thank you for giving me an actual honest answer.
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>>739794072
the most aggressively mid game I've ever played, and I love the FF series
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>Buff up for a minute
>Press auto attack
>Occasional use a heal pot
>Repeat 100 times to level up
Explain what about this is good at all
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>>739821832
simple, rewarding
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>>739821832
we're talking about pso not new geneshit
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>>739777967
man i played the shit out of this a few months ago
it's pretty much just japanese diablo
there's still active pso private servers if you just want to go back to it
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>>739822060
Yeah, so am I.
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Late to the party but the main gameloop of Stella Blade reminded me a lot to PSO, specially if you go for a all side quest completion, there is just something exploring the same areas over and over again and scratches that PSO itches from back in the day.
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Is Vindictus a PSO-like?
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Absolute peak kino droid designs to this day... sega hates money
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>>739822841
I would say yes.
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>>739777967
Atlyss is as close as ive found
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>>739823128
They actually added a caseal-looking face to NGS so maybe they don't hate money that much.
It looks a bit stupid but you can blame NGS' artstyle for that.
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>>739777967
God damn I miss this game
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>>739822841
it's closer than half the shit posted in the thread
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>>739813030
He didn't declare himself immune from tax audits, you stupid fucker. He got that as part of a deal with the IRS to not sue it into oblivion after he won the suit from the Democrat-era tax probes that were completely unjustified. Seriously. Shut the fuck up and go outside.
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>>739818295
FOmar deserves more recognition. When playing solo he literally has the highest ATP of any other class and can use all techs.
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>>739818295
Now, where would RAcaseal rank if RAcast didn't exist?
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>>739824386
Top because of ranger + FT combination
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>>739824487
If she's bottom tier simply because someone else does a better job, all three non-HUct should be alongside with her.
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>>739777967
I still play the Dreamcast version every Friday with my Dream Pi.
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>>739824659
To be honest in some respects I agree but techs are kinda equally as good just in different areas and fleshies have demons so ramar and ramarl having higher atp simply makes them better.
I would definetely put humar below her tho. Hucaseal no because she has an actual attack stat and also has FT
Huney deserves to be as high as ramarl purely because of sdjz
The only overrated class in this game IMO is RAmar, it has the highest ata and level 15 sd which lets them solo the easiest using shit like demons. But this is a group game not a solo game, soloing isn’t really impressive when all you’re doing is farming shit slower neither is it a display of skill considering that in a group setting the racast is just raping the shit you take a while to kill in seconds with max sdjz while also providing boosted arrest.
This is the tier list I’d use, grouped per class.
Before someone gets their knots in a twist on the force rankings, i put fonewem last because its technically the worst FO at support while being the best offensive force all things considered.
FOmarl deserves the top spot because its essentially the second best melee force with better animations than fomar and max range on sdjz and resta. Fomar doesn’t get max range on resta but does get max range on sd. Foney gets max range on sd and resta but has the worst melee capabilities. That is my reasoning, if being offensive matters that much you can put foney last and fonewem third but I think pierce megid is more valuable especially in places like seabed.
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>>739825161
Oops meant to put huney second and hucaseal third but to be honest they are pretty interchangeable. Hucaseal is better utility speaking but huney has sdjz so she kinda wins out at damage not to mention being the defacto backup support when no force
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>>739819349
>Atlyss doesn’t have buffs, debuffs, healing
it does, you didn't play the game. you can even get them in as little as an hour or so.
people are mainly comparing it because of the simple "action combat with gear grind loop" similarities
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>>739818295
RAmar is too low
HUney too high
RAcl could go into C tier imo, she doesnt have the dmg but the utility with FT and more ATA to CC
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>>739825161
FOnewm and FOmar can spawn kill with gifoie and FOmarl can't lol. Support is literally just casting Zalure, which all FO can do while holding Glide Divine. Melee with a force is nearly worthless and is not even worth consideration. You chart should assume a FO is already in the team, so I am not even considering level 15 and 20 techs.
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>>739807927
many such cases
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>>739827817
I forgot to make HUcaseal > HUmar because she has access to FT and Last Swan.
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>>739827451
I'll never get HUcast hate.
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>>739827817
In group play the atp difference between ramar and the two ranger girls is neglible. Ramarl has better techs and racaseal has traps. Racast is objectively the best not only because of its nuclear attack stat (higher than huney even) but also highest ft trap growth.
Like humar ramar belongs in the bottom of the tier list. Every other class has something to offer aside from being an average joe
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>>739828317
Hucast has the highest atp in the game even when other classes have level 30 sd and he doesn’t
What are you on?
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Shifta/Deband WILL get a skill modification with the patch
One of them WILL be self and others stacking buffs to encourage spam.
Another WILL be turning Shifta field into a DoT field.
Wand techter WILL continue to become more fun and freeflowing while healer sissies who only want to press 1 button and do no damage keep crying and pissing in their wow14 garbage game.
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>>739828830
RAmar is not average. His ATA and ATP actually does make a difference against frozen mobs, which allows him to safely SSS using berserk needle for a combo kill, which RAmarl struggles to do. And even then, it's simply a fact that RAmar's stats are higher than RAmarl's. There is never a scenario where you'd want a RAmarl over a RAmar in a 4p TA. RAmarl does shine in 2p TAs, though.
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>>739785436
Atlyss is too fast and frantic for my old man reflexes
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>>739778973
It's really fucking obvious how the brainwashd into espsteinclass lemmings has a 100% overlap with toxic nostalgia where you cry about le wokey dokey niggity dooes all every fucking day while pretending like the turds you played during your formative years were the best ever and without flaw, actually.
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>>739807927
The minimum height shit still drives me up the fucking wall, and my cast was as tall as possible. Let there be sholis sega you cunts
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>>739829029
Oh nevermind. I mistook "HUney" for something else. Ignore me.
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Never played a FO
Is it fun?
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sex with default RaCaSeal
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>>739815940
man god fucking bless the /modsec id command on Ephinea I had a perfect name picked out but I wanted to be Viridia and didn't want to fuck around coming up with a silver medal name
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>>739829487
they still act like its 2016
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>>739830087
I'm 90% sure the leveling is like having pocket nukes if you give them mind mats/MAG/mind units and the appropriate merge shields
If you also go barehanded with males and use the menu to cast you'll stunlock entire rooms
It's fun, but some ultimate rooms will be annoying to deal with
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>>739829192
Are you talking about NGS? Is this actually planned?
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>>739807251
Still surprising to me that the developer of Atlyss worked for pso.
But if he is still solo'ing atlyss it is going to take some years more.
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>>739804316
Well, the kicker is that it removes other ep4 small monsters at the same rate (minus merissa) and anything left over will be stunlocked + softened to shit if it's not a girta or dorf, so it's great basically anywhere there are mixed waves where a ranger would ordinarily have to engage brain cell 2 to avoid making the lizards untargetable. That's is a LOT of ep4 rooms, and some quests you don't really have to use anything else if you're feeling lazy, hence FO/DP circlejerks when good the ep4 stuff comes up.
It's just weird to me that given the focus on keeping things in the spirit of vanilla, this change is a pretty sweet deal for rangers running ep4, and idk if the class needed the buff. With the DMC fix in place, that is, maybe it would've been kind of meh several years ago.
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>>739778860
>gets frequent updates
I heard that was the main issue.
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>>739777967
Speaking of PSO, what is the best open source server for PC BB? Cross platform play is not a priority.
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>>739831790
>It's just weird to me that given the focus on keeping things in the spirit of vanilla,
Just goes to show what a stupid idea that is, that even "vanilla purists" are forced to make concessions like these. Vanilla BB was just an incredibly unbalanced game. Fun, incredible atmosphere, but horribly balanced.
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PSO is the greatest game ever made
they couldn't do it again with maximum effort
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mind if i dump my crops
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>>739832394
Why didn't they make an anime about it
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>>739821832
>auto attack
You have never played the game, zoomcel
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>>739829239
If we’re talking purely efficient 4mans no 4man is gonna include a ramar and no 4man is gonna kill slow enough for any fo in particular to truly make a difference which means its entirely dependant on area.
RAmar is quite literally only valuable on solos and solos aren’t a valuable way to play the game nor is it skillful because you will never play like that in a group.
This makes anything with better utility than them more valuable.
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>>739832715
they made a manga instead
...and episode III...
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>>739832826
>...and episode III...
Based.
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>>739824082
Fomar takes tons of investment in equipment, levels and smart play.

A ranger is literally just point and shoot for similar results
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>>739832918
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>>739827817
Melee is worthless above VH period
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>>739832715
Its not a story game
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>>739833104
I always loved summoning a Chaos Sorcerer, inflating its TP, and blowing shit up.
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>>739833104
I got this as a kid, never was I so disappointed
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>>739832817
You're basically saying for a 4P tier list
>S Tier: HUcast, RAcast, 1 FO
>Shit tier: Everything else
Which, I agree, but I'm trying to rank RAmar relatively to the rest. Besides, it's not like RAmar hasn't appeared on TA records because he has.
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>>739832195
Yeah, like why make the strongest class stronger? At least give some love to the stragglers first if you're going to start changing things selectively. DMC fix was one of the best changes imo since it made things more fun for everyone.
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>>739795491
>Create a new character on Ephinea
>Can't find a game to play in because everyone is Lv100+ and repeatedly farming the same quests in Ultimate mode
PSOBB has the same problem that a lot of other online games have these days. Most of the playerbase is just farming endgame at this point and doing nothing else. Unless you've got a group of other people who are just starting out and will actually stick with the game, you'll be stuck rushing to endgame just to have anyone to play with.
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>>739834696
They had a "ladder reset" type event years ago that was really fun. It was an optional quarantined server you could join where everyone had to start fresh and TTF was locked and there were rewards and incentives when the event ended depending on what you accomplished. That was fun, but apparently the admins have swore to never do anything like that again, no idea why.
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>>739834696
Getting to ult solo is a good experience though, especially if you have no gear
If you open up the room and put in the title you want help people will join
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>>739818716
>Omnispawns (monsters in areas they dont belong)
Oh wow they finally figured that out?
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>>739834696
There are always new people, and the vets are always leveling alts. Some of them also like to drop in to newbie games just to help out and drag them for a while and flex their cool weapons that don't cut it on Ult
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>>739835081
>VCR footage from the early 70s
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>>739835081
k-kino...
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>>739819065
I wish someone ripped EP3 assets and used them in some way in BB, even if they were just boss / waves arenas
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>>739836183
PSO modding never really took off. I thought it would be neat if modders added new areas and enemies to fight, but for the most part it's just custom items and texture/music replacements.
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>>739779505
It's probably this one, it's based on PSO1.

PSU/PSP and PSO2 are all similar and PSU changed combat up from the hit-... hit-... -hit three combo system PSO1 had.
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>>739836308
Most mods don't do new areas. Mostly because it's extremely hard to make the engine see those areas unless you replace base maps.

The engine has to be more "open" to mods than most games allow. It's why Morrowind is getting like the entire Tamerial world because you can hook new maps into the base engine to mod it, whereas PSO/etc. doesn't.
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>>739836308
>>739836443
IIRC one of the lobbies in Ephinea was replaced to be EP3's online lobby a decade ago but nothing further than that.
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>>739836308
You'd need to mod both the client and the server. Maybe if someone does some AI decompile in 30 years when AI is actually good enough to do multi-turn sessions.
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>>739818423
man I remember PS3 being so fucking grindy, I can only imagine how bad 1 is
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>>739777967
Any good mods/romhacks for this game and maybe others in the series?
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no you must preserve it like a good cuck
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>>739836443
Yeah game really needs the OpenMW treatment
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>>739777967
Is return to ragol worth playing as a newkek?
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>>739836856
Yes
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>>739836856
Never heard of it, but I'm reading the master doc right now.
>double-sabers and katanas can hit 3 targets now
Damn I wasted weeks trying to do this in PSOBB with that old ass server emulator, same for characters' tech levels.
Fuck BB I'm downloading this shit right now.
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What are the good melee weapons in PSP2i?
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>>739837976
Twin sabers
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>>739837976
I mostly used the swords (especially the big katana you get as a title reward) since they don't need a lot of chain hits to deal decent photon arts damage (NPC allies are stupid and will break your chain combo with their useless photon arts), but I think the top tier ones are twin sabers and spears.
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Good old Varista. Nothing beats that.
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>>739805053
Where can I get a Fonewearl wife?
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>>739838306
>(NPC allies are stupid and will break your chain combo with their useless photon arts)
IIRC there's a command you can give them to not do that. It's been years since I played though, so I don't remember what the command was or if I hallucinated this command to begin with.
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>>739777967
only Boomas still play this game.
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gobooma gobooma go
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>>739836856
>>739837848
remember there's online AND a shitton of "cheats" that act as QoL from that gamecube hack website(forgot the name)
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>mfw all deez boomas like me
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>>739839251
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>>739794072
This game was really fun when you get to a point where you're building up really strong synergizing abilities that do crazy damage together, too bad it felt like a first draft and everything before you get to that point feels like a slog, also because it's SE and wasn't popular we'll never get a sequel to flesh it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V015-ZUvLs
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>>739840271
There was a sequel
Mobile japan only :)
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>>739839857
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>>739837848
>>739836856
Pick the ver 1.02 cheats
https://www.gc-forever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2050
Personally suggest (you) to use
Improve draw distance
Compound skill for shifta/deband jellen/zalure
Visual duration indicator for the above
Auto meseta pickup so you don't destroy your hands
Status window replaces something but shows you how many materials you've used
Lock on shows HP/TP like psobb
Dropped item boxes shows item name is like the drop radar from ephinea, but more limited as it just shows the name
Keep PB charge/buffs when healing
Radar map modifiers lets you zoom in and out the map
Item elevation fix
six saves slot
bank selector v2
Don't use the widescreen cheats, the mod has it by itself, you just have to force 16:9 in dolphin
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>>739797856
RAmarl which is only good for solo play. For group play it's objectively the weakest in the game.
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>>739802741
>retard doesn't know how lighting works
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>>739837848
That would be a client side edits. I remember fucking around in Schtserv with the ability to equip every item, cast any tech, etc
>>739840621
>Lock on shows HP/TP like psobb
I would just like to autistically correct you in that this is Ephinea's edit to the game client, PSOBB did not do that originally.
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>>739805718
Still my favorite IDOLA theme.
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>>739841767
No he's right in that game has fucked up texture work, or do you also want to place blame on Takehime's obliterated knees and drawn shitty shadows under her skirt due to lighting?
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>>739842193
>No he's right
Uh oh. Another retard who doesn't know how lighting works.
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>>739842295
Nice doubling down retard, because if there was any chance this was based on lighting you would've thrown it in my face instead of this non answer.
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>>739817174
i don't why it bothers me so much but the changes they made to the movement from the first to the second game literally ruined this for me.
also they fucked up by not sticking to comfy snew-york. summer sucks dick
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Kondy death anim always seemed so comical and abrupt compared to other bosses, especially for an end boss of an episode.
I wish they'd had more time to work on ep4.
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>>739842479
>retard brings up something that was never mentioned originally
Far from the only game with a character who has odd shading on joints. That's just a stylistic choice which only looks okay from a very specific angle because that's how textured shading pretty much always works.

I'm not talking about that because it's a single character and I don't even give a fuck about it. Now shut the fuck up you autist.
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>>739785436
This is like pso but not in movement. I think he wants something where you are more restricted. Which nothing exists. There is no modern pso. So play monster hunter instead
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>>739814098
>>739789594
Sega is just retarded. There are a fuck ton of old ass engines that were able to add pbr and not fuck up legacy visuals. Sega is just incompetent.
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>>739800915
NGS was made for niggers who want to afk all day and pick up yellow cans and reskinned LQs
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>>739842981
The big problem is a complete lack of investment. They got the engine update in, they simply never cared to update the assets. Like, technically they "fixed" cubemaps which got stretched and broken and wobbly in places like the ARKS Ship hub, but in exchange they never even took a week to have artists do a texture pass to properly handle anything else. It was abandonment as fast as humanly possible for the sole fact that Hamazaki got his tenor project push and fuck everything else.
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>>739842759
It doesn't look OK at all you absolute shit eater. Also fascinating you want to just pull back to just talking about the faces because yes a lot of anime games do flat SHADING on characters faces because they can look shit in certain lighting conditions but in this case its always the case on SOME characters yet not all of them because it is not lighting but actually in their texture work, just like the shitty painted on shadows under Takehimes thighs for her default costume.
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>play HU alone
>where is my god damned Shifta+Zalure, I can't hit anything
>play RA alone
>holy shit this stunlock is so broken, or would be if I HAD ANYONE TO USE IT WITH
>play FO alone
>best use of time is being a worse HU
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>>739777967
Go play Final Fantasy Explorers, I hated it but maybe you'll like it.
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>>739800915
You're either intentionally being disingenuous or you never played PSO for any extended period of time because nothing about PSO2 or NGS is similar to the feel of the original. The only thing that game did right was the bonus for timed hits but that's still nowhere near enough to give it the same game feel. PSO is pretty much entirely about positioning and learning what attacks you can sneak in against any given enemy for any given situation.
>>739843253
>the retard is still going at it
Didn't even read because your picture demonstrates you're fucking clueless and cherry-picking to prove a point which doesn't exist. Just shut the fuck up already. Why did I need to tell you this twice? Even my dog knows how to listen after a single command. Are you dumber than a dog?

That was a rhetorical question. That means you're not expected to answer it because the answer is already obvious. You're welcome for the spoonfeeding.
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You will never be a real Hunter. You have no Freeze Traps, you have no Level 20 Shifta, you have no ATA. You are a newbie trap twisted by the class select menu and shonen anime hair into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.

All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. HUcasts are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your chunni appearance behind closed doors.

HUnewearls and HUcaseals are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed them to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even HUmars who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a Hunter. Your Level 15 Zalure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a 75 hit Dark Flow home with you, it’ll turn tail and bolt the second it gets a whiff of your lack of Freeze Traps.

You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a Sinow Zoa, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. A HUcast will find you, relieved that he no longer has to live with the unbearable shame. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your edgy name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a HUmar is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably HUmar.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
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>>739843474
leave him alone
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>>739819349
I'm not going to say it's similar, but it literally has everything you say it doesn't.
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>>739843458
Sorry, your deranged babble doesn't work on me. Its obvious exactly what kind of argumentive fuck you are that probably saw a video explaining lighting work on anime models once and tried call someone out on something irrelevant to what you think it is and now has gone beyond doubling down with inane bullshit because you can't further explain your way out of the corner you shoved yourself into, too bad and eat shit for thinking no one would call you out on it.
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>>739843792
>he's still sperging out
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>>739843282
Honestly solo FO is pretty fukken good cause everything takes a massive hit to elemental resistances with the exception of ep2 gdv which is still a big fat middle finger.
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>>739843654
Bullying HUmars is fun.
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>>739843880
Yeah next time think twice before trying to be a pseudo intellectual calling others retards on /v/.
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>>739838649
I'm pretty sure youre right I recall doing the same thing
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>>739844131
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It's criminal that CR makes the NUG a joke drop. I advocate for NUG justice.
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>>739844037
GDV is easy as FO if you use a V502 + Hell S-Rank J-Cutter, high hit Bringer's Rifle, and Slicer of Fanatic. FOnewearls can substitute the J-Cutter with Hell S-Rank Cards since they don't have the ATP for the J-Cutter.
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>>739843141
They didn't NEED to update the assets. You can literally just not fuck with shit and add entire layers that don't fuck up shit at the level they did. I am TELLING you they are incompetent from experience, not speculation. They're literally just incompetent.
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>>739777967
would say xenoblade x is the only thing i played closes to PSO, try that
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>>739804525
is insane how much good shit we were getting during the early 2000 compared to now, i hate this fucking timeline man
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>>739778860
>NGS is really good
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>>739829487
what games do you like anon?
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>>739844428
Sickass-looking weapons that are actually trash... my beloved.
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>>739844851
>>739844851
I think its very simple actually. They DONT want you to play PSO2 the only reason they fucking leave that shit in a playable state is no doubt some part of a loophole to keep PSO2 collab items for what is essentially PSO3 but called it PSO2: Thing instead.
Also get ready for more companies doing this to their products if stop killing games takes off, "oh we want to release our next live service game but we can't simply kill it off so everyone hops over? make sure to give it some final update that shits all over it"
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>>739777967
MODERN games? Not really. PoE and Diablo are going to be your closest equivalents.

Lots of great Phantasy Star games to play if you haven't, though. PS portable 1 and 2 +expansion, PS Zero on
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Something that always irked me about the original PSO2 was how short the culling was for other players/enemies/NPCs. Figured this was to help the game run better, but I played on a laptop with integrated graphics back when the game was in closed beta and JP only, and it ran "fine" (Sony Vaio laptop from 2006ish). But other than a discontinued mod on the pso-world forum, there was never any way to make far away objects not disappear. Granted, the last time I played was a few years before it got an official English release, but has this "issue" i've had with the game ever been "fixed"?
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>>739844428
But the Gi Gue Bazooka is a better bazooka than the NUG too.
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>>739845427
This only makes the injustice greater.
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Did ya get your Psycho Wand yet son?
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>>739845336
Yeah that theory would be sound if it also didn't look like they don't want people to play ngs either
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>>739838519
in the very hard forest farming rare elemental wands.
frequent head patting goes a long way with those head pat sluts
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Don't fall for EN4 claw resets.
I made a sky FO out of curiosity that has gone from level 80 to level 160 purely from killing A3 claws and so far I have found no commons worth more than a PD.
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>>739846241
I never did.
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>>739846308
Good. Friends don't let friends do EN4 resets.
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>8.6k views on their latest headline since yesterday morning
>also we're adding AI chatbot to the mag
Gee I wonder if the game is dying
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>>739798672
>>739804657
>>739805369
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>>739843072
Can we like not be racist FOR ONE FUCKING THREAD?!
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>>739847569
I am black and I will never stop calling niggers niggers.

If you think that's a problem you might be racist
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>>739842193
I'm assuming this is some dogshit gacha slop
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>>739848016
Nah its Risk of Rain 2 but anime early access slop
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>>739837976
I liked using twin swords, the assault crush PA was nice because it was so fast imo (I miss acrofighter from PSU)
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>>739840621
Can you not do both cheats and ragol?
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>>739778519
>I shutter
ESL BROWN
BROOOOOOOWN
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>>739849115
any of you faggots actually hit lvl 200 legit? That shit was ungodly grindy
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>>739849570
i bailed once i needed different section IDs to find the gear i wanted, the grind also gets very boring around there
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>>739847569
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>>739839251
thats our word you cant use it
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>>739849570
no the highest I ever got was 124 on gamecube
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>>739848983
you mean the romhack? You can
Online? Dunno, i never tried it
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>>739849570
I got to about 160 before I called it. The sheer grind to 200 is insane.
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>>739851640
think the highest I ever went on a char was around 140-150, I heard lvl 180ish was only the half way point in total exp
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>>739851806
Yeah it's exponential scaling. Same as Diablo where level 93-99 takes as long as 1-93 lmao
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>>739849570
My roster of 12 has accumulated enough XP in total to get 7 characters to 200, had I not been levelling them roughly evenly. Autism is a hell of a drug.
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>>739851640
You're not supposed to grind for levels after you get to ultimate, you grind for rare drops and the levels simply accumulate in the meantime. Grinding specifically for XP is a waste, you will end up getting garbage rares instead of something good.
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>>739852216
Trust me you won't even come close to 200 chasing even the highest rares. At some point you will have to optimize for XP gain.
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I hated that you need shit from the awful challenge mode
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>>739852513
I got into the 180s chasing actual useful rares with my FOnewm. At that point you are already getting close to capping your stats while wearing proper items and having your mats capped. There is no real point in actually reaching 200.
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>>739853720
You didn't really need to, there were non C-mode options for every weapon. The only thing that could be useful truly unique to S-rank weapons were things like Zalure specials, and those were only useful to a handful of classes without access to the technique.
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>>739849570
197something on Ephinea when they gave 2x EXP to hardcore accounts before I got bored and fucked off.
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for how much v hates pedos i'm surprised they dont sperg out about ephinea admins
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>>739855851
Something you want to share with the class anon?
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>>739855876
common knowledge that a self-admitted pedophile was part of the staff, and nobody had a problem with it. they all knew he drove to fuck a 14 year old he met on PSO. the only reason he got banned is because, shocking, he kept trying to do it. they didn't want to ban someone over something they weren't *actively* doing. really great community there, pedos are alright as long as they aren't actively fucking the users.
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>>739855983
I think they should be allowed to play video games
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>>739855983
i'd take a pedo over a fat mexican who runs the server in his basement and pocketing donations
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>>739856064
>i think pedophiles should be allowed to play with children in private rooms
you are a dumbass.
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>>739856159
No I'm not.
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>>739856421
oh shit my bad. you might be a pedo then, sorry you had to learn this way.
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>>739856506
I think you are, actually. I think your protest-too-much attitude is telling.
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>>739855983
based, once he's done the time he's free to play video james again as long as hes not a faggot about it
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>>739855983
>>739856159
14 year olds still play PSO?
Or is this like some ancient news?

Is there actually hope for kids? Are we winning?
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I'm going in people I've also been told the Dreamcast version has private servers I've got a tosec iso of v2.011 will that work with fly-cast or a gdemu Dreamcast?
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>>739856940
that's what got him is continuing to be a faggot about it. too many people had complaints on the server. doesn't surprise me that none of you expect someone like that to do it again.
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>>739793962
2 is a given if you're bad or even mediocre. It's a knowledge check and is the only reason the game doesn't die after people farm out ep1's shitty drops. 4 has been braindead since the private servers instituted damage cancel fix. Braindead rangers and FO's don't have to try to learn the episode anymore, just techniques go brrrrr. You don't have to be good at the game anymore unless you play ep2, which is why DPfags get filtered when they cant 1 button through tower.
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>>739857664
I approve of DC fixing just because it was retarded that a FO could monopolize damage and make things take longer.
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>>739857847
They do that even more now, what are you on about? FO is so efficient now in ep4 if people join on a HU or a Non DP Ranger, people will leave and remake or reserve for only FO/DP. It didn't fix anything, to even suggest that shows casual elitism or general retardation.

It made it worse by centralizing a broken strategy that requires absolutely no talent or ability to actual learn the do's and don'ts of gameplay. hit one button and you win the entire quest. In no way was FOing broken before unless you're really good at the game. Because you had to time your techs rather than braindead mashing to avoid DMC. Yeah DMC sucks but the alternative is a boring neutered game.

To even begin to remotely suggest that DMC fixed EVERYTHING is a farce. I appreciate it for ep1 and 2 but in general, its made it so people are so braindead in their approach to PSO now, they immediately run crying and screaming victimhood if you even suggest they break out of their 1 button trance and buff/debuff and THINK.

Woohoo you made the game more approachable for shitters, thanks.
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>>739857847
That and their ONLY Purpose without it was just Zalure, Shifta and Resta.

>>739858058
Let's not pretend PSO was ever a super hardcore difficult game.
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>>739858121
Let's not pretend you're good for hitting SSS on HP. Matter of fact, lets not pretend you're good while using freeze traps. Let's not pretend you know anything about advanced play in a Post dmc fix world. Those that left for TA'er only servers had the right idea.
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What was the weapon that Bernie had
y'know Bernie from the Gran Squall
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>>739858227
there are people who take this game seriously? every server i've tried is casuals galore
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>>739858381
Flame Visit
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I am asking for a modest donation of meseta to my Gran Squall search and rescue campaign
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>>739858467
Only place I have ever seen anyone try to take this game seriously is challenge mode
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>>739858787
Same. And Cmode is more or less completely solved so it's mostly just people going through the motions to get weapons.
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>>739840359
>Mobile japan only
JP ONRY????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-fJCr2ZGdw
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I'm still waiting for that psvita phantasy star to get an English fan translation
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>>739858787
>>739858850
You dont even really need to take it seriously. I was new to it as a RAmarl and another guy was new with a FOnewearl which according to this thread are unplayable shit and the other 2 dudes just instructed us what we had to know/do in the middle of everything and we got our S rank. I didn't even know that Epsilon boss existed though I had done towers content before.
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>>739849570
Did it once on a Cast with a rapid fire controller and King's Mechs but that probably doesn't count as legit. The closest I came without any afk stuff was in the 190s.
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>>739814858
It's a pretty boring game for autists nostalgic about their childhoods, it's not a great experience solo. It's okay if you enjoy monotonous grinding for rare drops, as a lot of autists do, but if spending 100-200 hours on slow action gameplay before you find your first rare drop sounds appealing to you, give it a shot.
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>>739859453
>less than two minutes for a real human being to respond to an issue
We're never getting this again.
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>>739859453
Oh hey, this sounds familiar in a way.
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>>739859594
Which one? The Vita had 2 Phantasy Star games. A port of PSO2 before New Genesis and Nova a more single player+online version of PSO2. Nova already had a translation for years now but sadly stuck at 98%. And the PSO2 port can't be played anymore since the original shutdown.
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>>739860528
Nova i think. I really liked the psp phantasy stars. Playing them in single player just grinding and doing story mode was a lot of fun.
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>>739786178
i should build my pso figure
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Idk if OP is still here, but check out the .hack// games. They were inspired by PSO and share a lot of the same DNA. .hack//imoq is almost a clone, but it has menu skilling rather than hotkey skilling, but once you get used to it it's super easy. .hack//GU changes things up a bit for more actiony gameplay, but I felt like the fields and dungeons weren't as interesting. The remaster is also too easy, but also, the QOL improvements still make it the superior choice. I'm unsure if a difficulty mod exists for it.
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>>739860857
Nova is nothing like the PSP Phantasy Star games. Its closer to PSO2 while also feeling closer to a monster hunter clone. Its ok but don't go in expecting Phantasy Star Portable.
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>>739778860
>NGS is really good fun and gets frequent updates
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>>739849570
its not that hard on ephinea, with rbr and all the episode 4 fast xp missions like boss rush it takes exponentially less time than og episode 1&2
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>>739862925
you are replying to a psychotic tranny there's no point
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Didn't read the thread but if you want more PSO play Phantasy Star: Zero on the DS. Use an emulator to upscale it. It plays closely the same.

After that your options are PSP2i and PSU clementine for close feel but modern. Monster hunter for pace and XBXDE for setting and jscifi.
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>>739778860
syberbolt raped you troons enough for the rest of us to laugh until the sun goes out.
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And don't bother with pso2 - it's shit. It was a vessel for driving trapped consumer spending after episode 2. Watch the 2nd anime instead. NGS story can be completed in less than 10 hours and is garbage so watch that on YouTube. Both are pay for power and NGS has power monetization on par with 2006 Korean MMOs lol.
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>>739864550
NGS makes me so sad. I didn't have too high expectations for it, but I hoped it would get better over time. It never did. It got worse. How long has it been since they've introduced new areas?
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PSO3 /when/
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>>739864765
They haven't, the new areas are literal copies of cubed off existing overworld areas with grey textured cubes in them called the alter realm. Anything more i type will sound like I'm making it up because it's so crazy they get away with it. The game had like 600 players left in NA last i checked too.
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>>739860438
>He never had the anti FSOD codes
I mean one of them was pretty well known and easy to find back then. The second one was harder to come by but so was the FSOD that could bypass the first protection code. And honestly, even if your character got wiped you could rebuild it easily and because everyone duped back then it really was not that hard to bounce back.
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>>739864765
>How long has it been since they've introduced new areas?
Last year, arguably half a year ago, with Alter Realm shit, but right now their next "big" update is.. the PSO2 Ruins and turtle boss. I'm not joking, it's a copypaste job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnSE-oLz-p4
I half expect them to do nothing but import PSO2 environments entirely and just soft-reboot that game in NGS if they're allowed to get away with it and the game lives long enough.
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>>739864809
PSO1 2 when?
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>>739864765
>It got worse. How long has it been since they've introduced new areas?
1 and half year to release all 4 region.
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>>739865002
>Big update
>The environment textures and models look literally ported with no changes
Sega...
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>>739860438
And we had a tranny from vg that exploited his job, banned tons of players he hate, actively made the community worse, use his nepo power to hire his future artist friend, and the got a sound job at sega doing music like that shadow game
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>>739860303
>Put in a ticket
>less than an hour later...
>THE SKY CRACKS OPEN AND FROM ABOVE A SPECTER FALLS GRACEFULLY DOWN FROMT HE HEAVENS...."Greetings Player, how can I help you today?"
Now its all AI
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Should I start playing one of these games? They look fun but I’m guessing the remaining playerbase is already the “top seed” or whatever.
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>>739864487
I went back and watched those videos recently and they're still super entertaining.
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>>739865221
https://youtu.be/eONML3KmBrM
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>>739864869
>Anything more i type will sound like I'm making it up
Nah I've dealt with Segac's bullshit long enough to not be surprised in the slightest.
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>>739865062
even better, maybe they fixed it since announcement but they fucked up the flowers to glow in the dark on the boss area floor, some shit doesn't glow, the general textures do. i'm pretty sure they aren't supposed to be doing that.
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>>739799393
Kino game, possibly best in the series. I have over 300 hours in that game.
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>>739856135
>fat mexican who runs the server in his basement and pocketing donations
Ultima? Or is it another server? I've been out of the loop for some years now
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>>739865307
Assuming you're talking about playing online, check out Ephinea. As for "catching up" to longtime players, you never know when you might come across an insanely rare, uber coveted drop. People will pay obscene amounts for those in auctions, giving you enough resources to buy anything you want. RNG can be a blessing and a curse.
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>>739865307
People make new characters all the time on Ephinea, and usually you'll have some random veteran players join your room to help you progress faster and even give you stuff
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See you on ragol, you loveable little shits.
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>>739865307
I've always had other newbs to play with on Ephinea whenever I sporadically mess around, it's always been pretty comfy. Always feels cool to wind up with even bigger noobs and teach them some things
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25 years and I still keep coming back to this fucking game, that's how much soul it has.
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>>739868890
Jungle / Beach BGM is full of SOUL . Really love that level design.



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