Did people really hate Halo Reach when it came out?
>>739798878Reticle bloom was hated. It departed from many halo staples.
I played reach and 1-3 recently and reach is definitely the most well polished and written product. I think people had three halos + odst and whatever else and just had fatigue where nothing was going to satisfy them so they hyperfixated on random bs like muh sprint instead of realizing they're probably just tired of halo
>>739798878>Did people really hate Halo Reach when it came out?People hated Halo 2 because:>Downgrades across the board to get the game to run on OG Xbox>Dual wielding>Arbiter being playable >Cliffhanger ending>Bungie cut the 3rd actPeople hated Halo 3 because:>Arbiter was shafted >Truth is a completely different character>Marty killing Miranda and Johnson made no sense>Downgraded multiplayer compared to the high skill Halo 2 BXR >Worse maps than Halo 2People hated Reach because:>Story retconned The Fall of Reach book>No Blue Team and Chief>Armor Abilities>Armor Lock>Reticle bloom>Motion blur>Multiplayer maps were campaign maps>Forge World maps were laggy and lazy>No BR>No MLG playlist at launch>22fps at times>TU Update and Anniversary PlaylistPeople hated Halo 4 because:>Doubled down on Reach's gameplay (everyone wanted Halo 3-2)>Chief and Cortana romance>Humans are no longer Forerunner>Retcons>Short campaign>CoD clone>Spartan Ops>Less features than Reach despite releasing 2 years later>Ugly lighting engine
>>739800053reach's forge world was kino albiet
>>739798878Yes, and I still doReach is barely any better than Halo 4
>>739800053Funny how Reach has more lines
>>739798878Yes. It's one of those games where the most positive way you can describe the fanbase reaction as "divisive".
>>739800229>and I still doFaggot, suck my dick
I didn't, tho I mostly played against my brother with low gravity
>>739800053>Story retconned The Fall of Reach book>No Blue Team and ChiefI think this wouldn't have mattered if they actually made cool characters. But they just did the most cardboard cutout shit. Absolute plain white bread characters.Convinced they are all different colours because no one would be able to tell them apart.
>>739800452>Convinced they are all different colours because no one would be able to tell them apart.That's exactly what Marcus Lehto said. He said that Chief, Cortana, Johnson, etc were lazy flat characters and wanted to make his characters feel more real and iconic.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_1LxdgGkOg
I wasn't into gaming discussion back then, as far as I knew everyone loved this game to death. I would like to see some old posts and discussions from back then talking about what makes Reach a bad game compared to the ones that came before it.
>>739798878Yes, but it was very popular, especially multiplayerFuck, halo 4 multiplayer lived younger than a lot of modern games that /v/ and game journos love
>>739800413stop being a zoomer
Two decades ago, video games were so fucking popular, that this could be shown during superball with everying cheeringBut because of gamergaters and incels, it became hobby for losers and nerdshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMYrKTU8Hmc
>>739800889It's crazy that some califags unironically believe that tthose who just wanted video games to stay video games are to blame for the current state, not the people who wanted to turn them lame and gay
>>739800452Genuinely the story needed to be twice as long. The outlines of good characters were there, had that Homeworld "professionals under stress" kind of writing, but they each only have like one or two memorable lines total>Carter and Kat have been in the same squad since the start of the war, could've had more moments showing how close they were like the cave scene/her openly asking if they've already lost/shown a bit more just how much Kat's death weighed on Carter>Emile is a poser tough-guy psycho, have more moments where he shows a softer side>Jun is an actual closeted psycho, make that a bit more apparent>Jorge was fine as is, a Spartan with real heart was an incredible rare thing The story had all these character elements, just told in extremely subtle ways that kind of just leaves you wishing they'd been more fleshed out
>>739801707>wow, why people hate me for acting like a vegan and telling everyone that they should hate video gamestotally a mystery
>>739800053Halo 2 had the least skilled MP component in the franchise. It was one of the major reasons it was disliked. The absolutely massive amount of auto aim and bullet magnetism made it so the game practically played itself for you as long as you could vaguely look in the direction of another player. And the easily doable exploits with the BR made an already atrocious balance situation even worse.The veteran player base was so cheesed off by bungie dumbing down the game for retards that a fairly sustainable website existed called halo2sucks.com that lasted for about a decade.The only people who hated halo 3 mp were the halo 2 babies who had started with that game and had been coddled by it so when halo 3 stripped out most of the hand holding to make the skill ceiling closer to CE they threw a temper tantrum and called the game bad rather than admit they themselves were.
>>739801721I loved cast, because every single death scene was both abrupt and memorable for me.If anything, I wish more games would do that, instead of spending 20 minutes of cutscenes after explaining why I should feel sad
>>739800889>video games start out as hobby made by and for losers and nerds (and the casual arcade enjoyer)>nerds and losers work extremely hard building the foundations of the hobby, designing the hardware and creating the software from scratch to make it, eventually bringing it to home systems>after a decade of strides, suddenly everyone loves video games. joined by dudebros, nerds and losers are on top of the world>Enter: waves upon waves upon waves of daycare women, (((data analyst's))), shareholders taking over decision making positions, and people with failing careers in """consultation""", all of which have never done a minute of 3D modeling, seen a line of code, or written a short story in their lives, invade, subsume, and corporatize the entire hobby>these same people grind the entire thing to halt to push whatever agendas or moneygrubbing bullshit they can and squeeze all the soul out of it>"bro I can't believe gamergaters and incels ruined gaming!"
>>739798878It tried to copy COD too much
>>739800053>Doubled down on Reach's gameplay (everyone wanted Halo 3-2)more Reach style gameplay would've been preferrable to how shit 4's was, it's not hated enough>sprint all the time>CoD style special weapon call-ins/care packages>vehicles were tied to team scores/on timers, most of the time tanks/air vehicles wouldn't appear on maps until the match was nearly over >absolute raping of the art style because 343 wanted to distance themselves from Bungie's/Halo's core grunge military anime aesthetics for generic plastic smooth sci-fi What they did to everything UNSC, from spartan armor to how the ships looked was awful
>zoomers who grew up with reach be like "ah yes the classic ar design"
>>739803140>history revisionismHow sadvideo games were made for kids, weird how you skipped that part>but no parent would buy console to their kids it never happened until 2010s and dudebrosLmao, you fucking deluded.Then some were made for teenagers who wanted to feel special, but of course only loser teenager would play garbage like planescape, over better games like arcanum and baldur's gateThen teenagers grew upSimple as that>bbbbbut my feelingsNo one cares
>>739803584Any Halo game that doesn't have a 60 round magazine for the assault rifle is a bad Halo game.
>>739798878The community was divided at the time. I liked it and played it a lot, but I know people who didn't like itI still love it. Remember...
Post a 343i design you like.Even then they fucked it up for H5 and made it brown instead of silver.
The only people who think reach had a good story are the people who were children when it released.Anyone who had any experience with stories that were actually well written saw it as a bunch of cardboard cutouts acting out tired cliches in a poorly thought out narrative.
>>739800889Yeah the only game these days that seems to capture the public is anything Rockstar puts out which is warranted i suppose.
>>739800053I thought people hated 2 because the story mode wasn't balanced properly and chief has a lot less health than he should compared to other games.
>>739803804A railgun being in use after coilguns have been mastered is fucking retarded and it betrays how little 343 writers actually knew about the world or concepts they were supposed to be writing about.
>>739803854>the covenant are on reach... i repeat... the covenant are on *falls asleep*Knew it was going to be shit when this is the first reaction to your most important military planet being lost.
>>739803952You're talking about a franchise where the UNSC doesn't have artillery or anything like cruise missiles.
>>739798878I don't remember anyone disliking this game.
>>739803854>reddit spacing>muh good storiespottery
it was better than 3
>>739804038It literally has both.
>>739804101>retards still posting this even though 4chan predates reddit by 2 years and you can see people using propper English formatting back then if you're autistic enough to run through the archives Post hands pajeeto
>>739804690look he did it again lol
>>739804786Zoomers are really insecure when you call them out for their shit, after all.
>>739804786DO NOT REDEEM BLOODY BITCH BASTARD
>>739798878I hate it now. Halo gets worse with every installment.
It's been a long day without you my friendAnd I'll tell you all about it when I see you again
>>739805150Better than the carbine. It has some alien "weirdness" to it that the carbine didn't.
>WHAAAA I CANT KEEP THE RETICLE ON THE ENEMY FOR ANY EXTENDED AMOUNT OF TIME>THIS GUN SUCKSno, my hypothetical shitter, YOU suck.
>>739798878The multiplayer was incredibly unbalanced thanks to the armor abilities. The weapon bloom also made the shooting feel very inconsistent at times. It was so bad they had made a Slayer pro playlist I think it was called that removed weapon bloom. However this had its own issues because it essentially turned the DMR into an accurate alternative sniper rifle. I also found the maps on launch to be probably the weakest in the games up to that point. It really did feel like half of them were just Forge World variants. This ain't necessarily bad on its own but it did make everything look so samey when you have the very same biome using the very same ugly ass forerunner architecture. As for the campaign and firefight modes themselves these were mostly fine. At least imo. I can't find much fault here. Invasion was a pretty cool concept for a new mode but this also never felt properly balanced and it had a limited number of maps you could even play it on.Reach is still good overall. Just not as good as H2 or H3. It was much more of a casual Halo experience which is perfectly fine. At this point though it may as well be a masterpiece compared to what came after.
>>739805816>loses to the starter weapon
Halo 1-3 and Reach are video game perfection. Halo Reach is sad and depressing and just a bold story for a video game
>>739798878this is the era where call of duty blew up and people were wary of everything becoming call of duty
>>739805925>loses in any capacitySkill issue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvb9C8DdkIU
People hated the multiplayer but I literally played one round and went back to firefight and Campaign Only Multiplayer I cared about for Halo was 1 and 3
>>739803631>see? I put a bunch of words in your mouth! I'm not crying!Sad!
Humans are Forerunners.
>>739803990>the supernaturally drilled super soldier isn't panicking and craping his super diaper at the sight of something he's been fighting and losing planets to for 30 yearseveryone knew it was a matter of time
>>739798878The series ended with 3
