Are IEMs future of gaming?
>>739809669looks like a freaking centipede, it's creepy
I use IEMs with my phone, but I still prefer over-ear headphones for gaming because I don't like the feeling of stuff inside my ear for the length of time I play PC games.
>>739809669fuck no, they have their use cases, but if you're using them for sitting in front of your computer, you need to figure your shit out
>>739810005why>cheaper than headphones>incredibly good quality for the price>basically same comfort>wont fog/sweat up your ears on summer>no gamer dent
>>739809669*the
>>739809953over ear headphones physically hurt my head and ears, have even tried fairly expensive ones and they still hurt. no idea how you're supposed to wear glasses with them either because the headphones end up crushing the glasses legs into your skull unless you do some stupid shit like wear the glasses over the headphonesthat being said i just use regular earbuds instead of IEMs
>>739810078The only IEMs that can provide decent bass are too heavy to be comfortable for long term use.
>>739809669I hope not. I don't like talking on a mic with what amounts to earplugs. Everything sounds weird and I think it affects how I talk
IEMs are ridiculous for online shooters. On mirage I can hear people in CT spawn from apartments.
>>739809669kojima already said flatheads are the future of gaming. iems are like pegging your ear canals its queer
>>739810078>whywhy would you use in ear monitors instead of just earbuds or regular speakers?I mean, if you don't care about quality and that's what you want to do I'm not gonna argue with you, why you need to seal your ear canal to play vidya is beyond me
What makes these better than the $10 earphones Sony sells?
>>739810287They aren't completely flat except for the bass boostThere are good 10$ ones
>>739810287you can buy $10 iems from china that sound better than any household brand name earphones
>>739810353I hate bass, it makes people with deep voices difficult to understand. I turn it way down on any EQ I use.
>>739810106You could just wear contacts while using over the ear headphones
>>739810236oh yeah I love headphones that feel like they're always going to fall out
>>739810362I know a guy who used to religiously shoplift earphones and he let me have some. The cheap sony ones always sounded better than the fancy looking chink ones. The sony ones had better bass.
I used in-ear earbuds for years and the only issue is that I can't hear shit of what is happening outside which is not even a hassle most of the timeheadphones for gaming hurt my ears or make them sweaty as fuck especially during summer
>>739810412thats what foam is for, it feels much nicer on your ears than penetrating and widening your canal
>>739810427>pig says one pile of garbage is better than other pile of garbage
>>739810287it's more that all low price earphones in the market are complete garbage, these cheap chink iems are not necessarily better but because they're IEMs, you hear the sounds more clearly and retards think they're quality products because of that because some youtuber told them that I guess
I wish bone conduction earphones were actually goodShit sounds like the future when you first hear the idea and then you try them and they sound like the speakers on a 2003 motorola
Just spend like 50 bucks on Buds+ you autists.
>>739810427better bass is a spook you just need a better fit. if good earphones sound bad you need to learn how to eq for your ears
>>739810507It's important for them to hit that low price point, since they are essentially disposable. I use them daily, so I end up needing a new pair every few months. Quality isn't that important when they're used while commuting or exercising for the most part.
>>739810602yea that's what I use them for too, I wouldn't use them for playing games though
>>739810390I like bass but not when it's blown out by volume
>>739809669I've been using these for years and they just work.
>>739809669yes I got tired of replacing $100 """gamer""" headphones and just bought 20 dollar chink iems, which sound much more clearer despite the low price.
>>739810581>bluetooththe latency isn't good for anything except listening to music and maybe watching tv as long as you aren't paying close attention
I'll be honestregular apple headphones are still the most comfortable they're all I useand they DO still make the ones with proper headphone jacks.
>>739809669>Are IEMs future of gaming?no. People don't like wired shit. Bluetooth wireless seems to be the current meta.
>>739809669Holy based
>>739810287IEMs are not even comparable to headphones or earbuds. They are literally a different beast altogether. You have the form factor where dependent on how good your seal is you can hear even the faintest sounds. You also have the drivers which give a good boost to mid range frequencies. If you turn on sidetone then talking with IEMs in feels like using your regular speaking voice. They're great for audio engineering, broadcasting, casual listening, gaming, everything. The only downside is that if you're an autistic dweeb you'll get uncomfortable hearing your pulse and having to shift around your glasses, which is less an actual complaint and more an unironic skill issue.
>>739809669Buds are simply not comfy
still waiting for someone to make a wireless IEM with low latency and a 16 hour battery life so i can wear them all day.
Why would I bother buying IEMs instead of just getting a good set of planar headphones?
>IEMs>Headphonespoors trying to cope not having real speakers.
>>739812687yeah I blast my galge at full volume
>>739812463>Wireless>Low latency>16 hour battery lifeThat's not gonna happen unless you get a proper UHF monitor setup, a 2.4ghz transmitter could work but you would need to stay away from your router to avoid interference and those typically don't have more than 8 hours of battery lifeDo correct me if I'm wrong, I want the same thing
>>739810275arent IEM just earbuds? or better said any earbud is an IEM technically. It's a marketing stunt.
>>739812534IEMs are packed with any type of driver you can think ofOP iem for example is supposedly a dynamic + planar all arounder
>>739809669no they're dogshit compared to full head cans
>>739812921Sounds like a gimmick to me
>>739812776i have sony inzone buds that are 20-30ms latency with like a 12 hour battery and that's the best i've seen so far. still gotta charge em before my day is over and the sound quality isn't fantastic. it pains me that all they need to do is add an extra few millimeters of battery to the thing and it'll last 16 hours easily, there's tons of wasted space on just plastic that does nothing.not sure what a UHF monitor setup is.
>>739809669>putting shit in your earnothe answer is either bone conduction or open back>>739810561i have shokz opencomm2, the quality is obviously never going to match actual headphones but it's pretty great considering the comfort, the only real issue is that it's a bit disappointing when it comes to deeper rumbling tones but that's to be expected, they aren't big enough to recreate those
>>739810427>religiously shoplift earphonesProbably because they're all built to fail garbage or at least used to be. I used to go through several pairs a year in the 2010s because of how often one or both sides would fail. I just bought my first pair of Bluetooth earbuds a couple months ago, so we'll see how long they last or if they will explode in my ears and if I have to go assassinate a CEO for destroying my hearing.
What are iem's? You mean airpods?
>>739812954Why? In theory it makes sense if it's implemented well.Dynamic drivers have best bass but distort at higher frequencies.Planar is great for treble detail but can't move air like DD thus bad bass.Not saying driver count = quality but single driver just can't be an all arounder because of physics. You are forced to sacrifice.
>>739813442My dad bought me philips airpods that i use while doing chores. The sound quality is a lot better than regular airpods
>>739812739So would you say that you're having a blast?
>>739813442Is this what you guys are talking about?
>>739813767Apple shit was never good in any medium. Remember Apple "Retina Display"? Yeah that shit wasn't even 1080p resolution.
>>739810106Because you wear thick faggot frames.
IEMs suck for listening to music, they are good for live mixing but you won't see the sound engineers wearing them when mixing or recording, their purpose is to listen to yourself or band members live in a noisy environment. If you just like loud and sort of clear high notes then you would love IEMs
>>739812463The new buds I got few months back are close. The latency on bluetooth buds has gotten very good in recent years when game mode is turned on. Battery life is more like 7-8 hours though, but I don't think it's healthy to keep something in your ears for 16 hours straight. Another great thing about newer buds like these is that you can connect them to two devices like your PC and phone at the same time. You can't play sound from both devices at the same time, but if you close a game at your PC and start playing music on your phone, it switches over automatically.
>>739809669Enjoy going deaf and tinnitus before 40
>>739810287They have way better sound quality, period. I used $15 in-ear Sony earbuds for years, replacing them every year or two when they finally broke (I still own a pair), and last year I finally decided tobtreat myself with some IEMs and the difference in sound quality and clarity is like night and day.I still use the Sony ones with my phone when I'm on my bed, but the IEMs are simply better.
>>739813987Live... mixing? What is that?
>>739814316Average traffic, your own's car sound, office/factory, any crowded public places already did that for you.Humans were not meant to live like bugs.
>>739814316Everyone gets tinnitus before 40.
>>739814467Bugs live in tunnels and under rocks. They are nothing like humans.
>>739810287$10 Sony buds are $2 chinkbuds with a Sony logo printed on themchang has made great strides in consumer audio in the last 10 years or so, offering top of the line sound quality for dirt cheap prices while all the legacy western/jap are still hawking ancient garbage at a premium because of brand recognition
>>739809669can ear buds even do directional sound?
>>739809669IEMs are insane>prices from 20€ to thousands>even cheapos sound better than standard in-ears headphones>replaceable cablethe only downside is wearing long time fucks up with ear canal>gunk builds up>it's annoying>you clean it>it damages your protection against infections
>>739814547autism award
>>739812074>you'll get uncomfortable hearing your pulseThat's not even a skill issue. That's just a regular issue. I also don't like hearing>FSSSSHHH-HHHHHFFFFEvery time I breathe in my ears. It's obnoxious and distracting. Unless you're somehow blaring your music non-stop I don't see how you could ignore it.I'm not sure of these buds will do either of those things, but if they do that's a hard pass from me.
>>739814448for musicians who play music live or during a recording session if you want to here the metronome, bass guitar and the vocals while you play the guitar which you also want to hear. instruments with variables that are subject to change in an ongoing session. all the above are on separate channels and can have different volumes in your IEM, it doesn't have to sound crisp but you need to hear them to know your queue and keep the time. it's used in show business to hear the director/producer while they are being filmed it's goal is not quality but sound isolation and a range for audio that can help make it easier to hear specifics
>>739813168>bone conductionI was looking into that but i only found bluetooth crap.
if you're a poorfag then buy some 30 dollar chinese IEMS>sounds better than mid range (100-200 USD) over ear headphones>surprisingly durable>no more messing up your hair>has a cute anime girl on the box
>>739815610yeah, i'm using mine on bluetooththe audio quality itself is quite good actuallyi bought the receiver version too because vidya and latency and the latency ended up being the same if not worse than bluetooth oddly enoughi tried fiddling with pipewire but nothing would worki'd describe the latency as basically being on the edge of tolerable, it's completely playable and it's only jarring for a minute if you've just come off an actual wired headset
>>739815610One time I climbed the Sydney Harbor Bridge and they gave me these headphones that didn't go over my ears, but instead were slabs of polymer that I wore like chonky sideburns. They said the slabs would produce vibrations that directly stimulated the bones of my ears and bypassed strong wind. Maybe that's what you want?
>>739815836>>739815865For at home i want cable connection, not just because of the latency but because i keep forgetting charging my stuff i already have.I can understand the benefit of bluetooth for outdoor sport and if you are just on a call or listening to music latency isn't the problem.
>>739813442>>739813767>>739813871ANYONE?
My chu 2 iems keep fucking oxidizing All the green fucking leakage....
>>739816174personally for me the bone conduction headphone market is good enough, i wouldn't go back to anything that sits in my ear anywhere outside the house or wear an actual set of headphones if i'm not playing vidya with peoplethe comfort is just too good to pass upthe good news is that the market is already picking up, i've seen bone conduction shilled onlinei don't think wired good quality bone conduction headsets are far off at this point hell, this thing i wear could be converted into such if the manufacturer added a tiny bit more hardware into it
>>739815826But what if I'm listening to something on my PC and want to get up to piss or grab something to eat? You expect me to pause?!
>>739815826I tried these once and they were so flat sounding. Apparently that's good if you are a sound mixing DJ, but I just want to blow my head off with bass. Fuck IEMs.
>>739816437mini fridge and a piss bucket
>>739816437There are headphones that have detachable cables.
>>739816648I have 2 different pairs, one with much more bass than the other.it won't rupture your eardrums, but if you need that then you might as well install a subwoofer.
>>739816215inner earmachingies
>>739816648You're brown.
>>739816434Don't those leak sound?I don't want people hearing my max volume incest hentai.
>>739817096You're black.
My shitty asian wetty ear don't like earbuds or IEMs sorry
>>739815597Huh, I've never noticed live bands having earphones or anything like you describe before. guess I'll bring some binoculars next time.
>>739817335They're harder to notice because they're used like this, behind the ear and under the shirt so they don't get in the way.
>>739817118that's mostly about the delta of the noise floor and the volume you're listening ati've wrapped them around my thigh, closed the the door and window and at 61% volume and max youtube volume all music and speech is completely inaudiblethat's really as quiet as the environment can get and in a louder environment you can obviously push it higher as the noise raises the floor
they hurt my earts after a while. Headphones sit on my skull instead of putting pressure on my ears which is comfy for long sessions.
>>739810236Flatheads have never been comfortable for me.
>>739818052Enjoy your gamer dent
>>739809669I've been using a moondrop aria for the last five years, never had a headphone last that long.
>>739817335not all bands use In Ear Monitors, some use normal monitors that are placed down in front of them directed towards them so you won't hear them. look for a black box in front of the performer. if you keep shilling IEM on a video game board, you'll get an RGB gaming version soon.
Is M50x still the budget king?
>>739810236I fell for the meme and bought a pair. Definitely one of the decisions I've made.
>>739809669Yes.Ever since I got my first IEM 5 years ago, I stopped using full-sized headphones completely.>better sound quality>better noise isolation>can comfortably use them in the summer
>>739810078>>basically same comfortI think the comfort is better but it depends on the person, the comfort for me on IEMs is SO MUCH BETTER. Then again I wear my IEMs wrong and I barely have any seal. Yeah I lose lots of bass but they still sound good enough to me for daily use like browsing and gaming. If I wanna really listen to music I just change to my headphones.
>>739820389Try getting a smaller IEM, something like Moondrop Lan
>>739809669why do retards pretend earbuds are new technology?
>>739820491I have Sony MDR EX110 and they're already really small and only 3gram each or something. When my old pair died I was debating between this and Moondrop Chu 2 but because I could get the Sony from local store I just went with them again.
>>739820284You've never use noise canceling headphones.
>>739820706I did. Your point?
>>739819603The M50x fucking sucks for both studio use and listening to music. It's also really uncomfortable. I have no idea how it got so popular
>Walking around with $10 wired headphones >Can see visible disgust among the people in public >Feels good It's hilarious how so many people are bothered by seeing people still used wired headphones. I get that you're seen as being "poor" and lacking in taste, but I don't know why a stranger wearing wired headphones is so upsetting for people, like it somehow personally bothers them. They will go home and vent about "Yeah, I saw some loser poor person wearing $10 wired headphones today. Yeah, he didn't have wireless $200 headphones like everyone else. Fuck him. He had to stand out and be different for attention." Do they think wired headphones users just want the attention? Like they're hipsters or something? I will admit that I think they look more stylish, like if you want to make a fashion statement.
>>739821103You wear wired headphones outside?Ew.
>>739821103I think they might've been disgusted because you smell like shit, anon.
>Some bitch walks into the store >"Do you sell SKULLCANDY headphones? :D" >Tell her no in a monotone voice with a look of disgust.
>>739821201>>739821215I see tons of people wearing wired headphones in public, and I don't even think it's a "poor" thing. I think it's more of a style/look that people are going for, also I suppose damaging/losing $10 headphones has less of a cost-risk factor than losing/damaging $200-$300 headphones in public.
>>739820784Noise canceling headphones are the ultimate way to experience music. They objectively can produce more bass and have greater range than any IEM. You speak of noise isolation in IEMs as if NOISE CANCELLING headphones don't have that shit on lockdown. Their sound quality is immaculate. Do you get my point, Anon?
How's KZ Castors?Or Moondrop Chus?Or 7HZ?
>>739821219Why were you so rude?
I feel like if you're enough of a nerd to know or care about the difference between earbuds and IEMs then you should have enough common sense to avoid these tinnitus machines and just buy regular headphones instead
>Another snob/prude hipster headphone thread Just get some Bose QuietComfort's and shut up. Nobody cares about your obscure 1994 headphones, or you're $3,000 music producer set-up/headphones. Are you making music for a profit? No? Okay then.
There are no good headphones the same way there are no good monitors
>>739821331Because I think Skullcandy is garbage and only women usually ask for them, or edgelord guys stuck in the early 2000's.
>>739821415There is only "good enough".
>>739821447Why not enlighten her and recommend something better instead?
>>739821528Because a lot of times you can tell when people are loyal to one brand, or don't really care/know much about headphones to try something new. I could have suggested something else, but she wouldn't have used them. She wanted Skullcandy for the brand. It's like suggesting a non-Apple product to an Apple fanatic. It doesn't matter if it's objectively "better" because they want the brand. It's about lifestyle to a lot of people like that.
>>739821647You never know until you try. Don't let your resentment towards women hold you back from being nice to people, anon.
>>739821293I hate bass. And I don't use ANC headphones for gaming. Your point?
>>739821723Thank you, dad. I'm glad you seem to think/imply that I'm just a misogynistic incel and my entire response revolved around her being a woman.
>>739821384>Bose QuietComfortI've got those. They're really good, but I've not tried other pairs. Also, the ear cups keep splitting. Don't replace them, just sew them up with a thread and needle.
>>739821785>>739821219>Sees a woman>Calls her a bitch for no reason>Acts pathetically passive aggressive>"Why would you think I'm an incel!?"kek
>>739809669The future of gaming is speakers on a reasonable setting and a mic clipped to the table on a movable arm because I want to be able to hear when I'm 77
clip on is the future, old man
>>739821293I agree with you that that anon sounds like they never used real noise canceling headphones but then again you're wrong in that noise cancelling makes the best quality sound lol. It literally doesn't. But that's fine if you like it or need the noise cancel. I for one can't stand the feeling you get from having noise cancel even when there is 0 sound playing.
>>739821103>>739821219Why are audiophiles so pathetic?
>>739821934>cable breaks in one month
>>739821306I tried none but I bet they all are equal and it's just about which one fits you the best in both comfort + sound tuning. Honestly just buy the ones with best availability to you as long as it doesn't have some clear flaws. This is why this "hobby" is cursed, you don't need anything perfect yet there's so many models available, it just needs to be comfortable to you.
>>739821934>kossIf you want a crappy retro-style headphones, then at least get a Moondrop.
>>739821778>I hate bassThen don't listen to bass focused music. ANC only brings out what a song really is.>I don't use ANC headphones for gamingWhat a baffling statement. You don't have to. I usually don't. ANC just takes it to the next level if you want to lock in.
>>739821219ah better times where you could tune out the surrounding without having to fear to get stabbed from the back.
>>739822318I live in a white country.
>>739821958They've developed an unwarranted superiority complex by becoming attached to their preferred tech. I love a good set of headphones myself but I can't imagine doing something as gay as referring to myself as an "audiophile".
>>739822116nta but those koss headphones are punching waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay above their price class and its not just the looks
>>739822387God bless Canada
>>739821293"pro" gaymers use seperate noise cancelling headphone things with their iems
>>739822387In some low income housing environment?
>>739822458I often think of snobbish audiophiles as being the same as people bragging about their $7000 watch and koss is the casio of headphones
>>739821934If you can't easily replace the cable, it's automatically e-waste tier
>>739822017>>739822678the thing is (relatively) cheap, the sound is good and it doesnt flatten my damn hair. all good to me.>>739822458exactly, really good for what it does at its price
>>739823135>it doesnt flatten my damn hair.What, you got an afro or something? Boo hoo.
>>739809669I buy the cheapest jvc or sony. Some of those used to be 8 dollar each and I buy 2 or 3 of them at a time. The last pair has lasts me 4 years plus.
i need big foam ear tips for in earphones, with noise cancelling, just to get rid of the sound of fucking normies the tiniest bit. they still cut right through it. I could probably wear noise cancelling over the ear headphones over the top of my in ear ones. but yeah when i'm at home i use my hecking sennheisers.
>>739823439Is there really no difference between the cheapest and like 25$€ models? Have you tried them both? I read there is so I'm not touching those cheapest models.
Yep my Cadenza 4 are absolutely kino and blow my HD6XX out of the water
>>739809669
My Sennheiser earbuds just popped on the left unit, second time this has happened. I'm glad I haven't paid multiple times for this garbage. Now I get to go find a new pair I guess.
>>739809669Bone conduction is the best
>>739816434There's already a couple of wired ones in asia but they're low budget low quality releases rather than high end models>>739817118Depends on how good your model is but typically no unless you're in a quiet room and playing it really loud
>>739816434>>739824325Japan has Elecom and Sanwa and there's a bunch of no-brand Chinese ones you can find but none seem particularly goodThe JP ones seem to be catered more for "call center employee who can also be yelled at by manager" and "teleworking mom who wants to hear the baby crying" than gamers
>>739810152My experience is that the bass doesn't get as loud as over-ear headphones with IEMs, but the bass is far more detailed
>>739810236I found IEDs really uncomfortable and actually went back to flatheads for a time before switching to bone conductionMy experience has beenBad headphones < IEDs < good headphones < << flatheads <<< bone conductionI hear that picrel actually solves all the problems I have with headphones (ears get squashed and uncomfortable or just too hot and sweaty) but I only learned about them after switching to bone conduction and they're too expensive for a "just try it out" buy
>>739821384love me QCnoise cancelling is essential to those navigating a modern multicultural society
>>739824325>>739816434I want to point out that the latest bone conduction has actually good sound quality and bass, OpenRun Pro 2 and the NEW Audio Technica one especially (NOT the old AT one which was dog shit)
>>739810106>have even tried fairly expensive onesuse cheap ones that are lightI've been using ath sj11 for years, very light and not tight on the head/ears, they are unfortunately not produced anymore, I don't know what I will replace them with
>>739810412we've used them before in-ears were invented and nobody complainedjust don't shake your head while gaming
>>739809669>sweaty>uncomfortable after a few hours>have to clean ear wax out of them>limited spacial audioTake the open-back headphones pill.
Shill me something 200 bucks or under
>>739825202If you want comfort you should just use bone conduction
>>739825243Openrun pro 2
>>739825534Personally haven't tried it, how is it? I have the impression it would sound/feel "wrong" somehow.
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>>739825592High end models are still less than $200 and they're fantastic, don't know how feasible it is where you are but you could try and go look for a store that lets you try it outThey're as comfortable as wearing a pair of glasses (or possibly more if you're used to glasses with huge lenses) and the new models have great sound quality and bass rivaling regular earphonesVolume is limited to sane levels so they're not for blasting rock into your ears so loud the whole bus can hear it too like some people do with headphones, but they're great for gaming as well as other stuff like videos and audiobooksThe biggest different is that they don't block anything so you can hear other stuff as well so it's like listening to speakers
>>739825202I got these and 560s. Had to return the 599 they just sounded so fuckign shit like how do people use them. Like they're openback but they are tuned to sound like they're covered with big blanket or something. The feeling is just uncanny.
>>739821306>koncentrationcamp castrators>moonpoop chuds>7upthose arent real names....right?
>>739825202I got a pair of these because they go half off usually around Christmas. First real "expensive" pair of headphones I've bought and I've gotta say, I'm not sure I get it. Maybe I'm just not an "audiophile", maybe it's because my source is just mainly a laptop, but I'm still not sure if the sound quality is good for the price. I might just lack a point of reference since these are the first open back headphones I've owned.
>>739825840Agree. I usually forget that I'm wearing my Openruns. I got a $10 pair on amazon for swimming that sounded terrible, so I was worried about upgrading, thinking that that's just how all bone conduction headphones must sound. The Shokz sound great though and are constantly on me now. And they're half off at Sam's Club and Costco all the time.
>>739826257They're really poor headphones in sense of neutral and pure sound. It's like a meme headphone people parrot because it's their first openback and they go for cheap very often. But paying 200 euros or dollars for those? lmao no way.
>>739809953>>739809669I prefer speakers personally, am I the only one?
>>739824667WTF is bone conduction?
>>739827589A type of earphone that vibrates the bone near your ears/jaw so that you "hear" the sound in your head
>>739827589it doesn't go in your ear, just slightly in front of it and you hear it through the boneextremely comfortable, personally i only take them off during sleep
>>739810078>fucks up your hearing quickeryeah, it's just not worth it
>bone conductionThis sounds either like snake oil or hideously uncomfortable for extended amounts of time, possibly both
>>739809669I got these IEMs: "Linsoul 7Hz x Crinacle Zero: 2"They're okay, but the cable was fragile and one of them just snapped after roughly 2 months of use. Not surprised for the price point ($25 or so)I had to buy some "tripowin zonie linsoul" cable as a replacement. Also, you need to clean the IEMs often because some days one of the ears will produce weaker or no sound at all making you think it's damaged, but you can use one of those "ear toothpicks" with a tinge of alcohol to clean them. Play music or loud sound effects at max volume for 1-2 minutes and it'll declog.Despite these small issues I think it's of decent quality for my uses (stealth games, nigger music) and more comfortable than the 99 Classics I used to wear for extended periods of time. (I wear glasses.)Use equalizerAPO to tinker a bit if you"re not satisfied with the low mids etc. But I had no issueDifficult to sleep with if you're a side-sleeper, but this is true for most audio equipment.
>>739828265>Despite these small issues I think it's of decent quality for my uses (stealth games, nigger music)forgot to mention rhythm games too
>>739828215>possibly bothin reality it's neither
>>739826737No, but if you live in an apartment or the dorms I can assure you that everyone else prefers it if you’d use headphones.
>wtf is bone conduction>amazon has a set for 29.99>okay>scroll down…
>>739829389>he doesn't listen to music through a dildongmibut seriously, $30 ones are going to sound like shit
>>739829523Women will listen to music from phone speakers and not care, would be the point.
>>739825023>the NEW Audio Technica one especially (NOT the old AT one which was dog shit)Which is the new one?
>>739828595good thing I live alone in a house then
>>739828178how
I got disillusioned with audiophile memes once I bought wired usbc earpods since I wanted to use them with my phonethrew some EQ on them and they sound absolutely fine and they aren't ear dildos like iems and have no weight unlike headphones
>>739825581Are these things really comparable to decent headphones as a primary sound device, or they're just the least awful compact option? Not exactly convinced by the "It's really good for a situation where you can't use headphones!" official spiel. Also, it looks fragile as fuck.
>>739829523Best iems I ever had were monoprice and $5. They had a high failure rate though, so eventually discontinued. I never thought to buy a dozen pairs, so I’ve been chasing that sound quality ever since.
>>739831512>Are these things really comparable to decent headphones as a primary sound deviceDepends on how you define 'decent headphones'. I use them when I'm outside of the house to listen to music and take calls, they're surprisingly good quality and the bass is way more punchy than I would expect but it's nothing spectacular and if you ever need to turn up the volume enjoy having your bones tickled by vibration.
>>739831512you know how those looksmaxxers smach their face with a hammer?this does the sameonly difference is that you will get flanges like an orangutan
>>739831512I only ever see middle aged, lower-middle class, overweight white women wearing these.
>>739833017i have never seen anybody wear them
Let me guess, you need more?
>>739834594I need less.
i use picrel and it jest werks
When did pretentious fucks start calling these>le IEMS ahuurDUURRRthey’re earbuds. They’re in-ear earbuds. They were called in-ear earbuds at every electronics store and every online shop for 20 years. IEM is the most pretentious fucking annoying fucking marketing stunt in recent memory. Shut the fuck up
>>739809669I'm fine with spending triple digits on headphones, but not IEMs. And the good IEMs are in the triple digit range, so it's a hard pass for me. I tried moondrop chu 2 and crinacle zero 2 and I didn't like them.
I would use them more if the cables werent so god damn short, Im affraid Im gonna rip these things apart if I so much as turn my head.
>>739834693>>739834594Absolute dogshit ear fit. The mic/controller and white color theme are alright tho.
>>739834821To distinguish from worthless garbage like airpods
>>739834594For me?It's cheap chink shit. 4€ well spent.
>>739809669I use TWS bluetooth earbuds for gaming on my PC because I genuinely dont notice the latency
Can you even use these things if you have watery frequent earwax?
>>739834872moondrop taught me to be suspicious of anything with an anime girl on the box
>>739821103There's retards who think wearing wired headphones makes you "performative". Motherfucker, are you too retarded to realize bluetooth audio sucks?
>>739835368So... all IEMs?
>>739835247Yeah. It hurt to learn nips and shit have dry powdery earwax that just flakes off instead of the thick axel grease my ears excrete.
>>739835406The face bone conduction is pretty much exclusively bluetooth is enough reason to be weary of it. Even without the “people who purchased this also purchased dildos” bit
>>739835470No. Currently using Linsoul KZ ZS10 Pro to accelerate my hearing loss.
>>739835576>faceNigger I typed fact why the fuck is this shit “correcting” correctly spelled words.
>>739809669I used IEMs for a long time, but holy shit it's not worth the hassle and since I travel a lot they always broke down after 2 years max.Got some bluetooth samsung earphones and it's much easier to handle, sound is good too even if IEMs were slightly better.
>>739835725You also said 'weary of'.
>>739835801esl or retarded? Cast your votes.
>>739835850You're 'weary' of bond conduction because it uses bluetooth? Is there something wrong with your brain?
>>739835850This is /v/, so both.
>>739835910NTA but bluetooth audio is shit.
>>739835850I was giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you meant wary because what you said makes no fucking sense. Who the fuck is asking for wired bone conducting headphones and sick of the alternative?
>>739830936It doesn't on its own but the sound is so clear and clean that people tend to turn that shit up way more than they should.Also it might pack wax in which isn't good.
>>739835994it's bond conductance you retard, blueooth is not going to be the primary limiting factor there
>>739835247>watery frequent earwaxYou need to stop touching your ear, its skin is fragile and you'll easily upset it if you scratch your ear. Let it heal and only clean outer ear and entrance of ear canal with a soft cotton like stuff (not swabs, you'll just push dirt deep inside your ear canal). Eventually your ear will heal and itching will stop. Your ear moves dead skin and dirt by itself towards outer parts of your ear, don't try to push your finger or cotton stuff you are using it to clean deep inside your ear, you may end up pushing dirt deep which your ear can't remove by itself. If you think your ears are clogged consider getting your ears cleaned by a doctor.Also keep your ears dry if you can, again with cotton probably.
>>739809669>>739809953No, TWS is. Even the cheapest trusted brand already better than 99% of headphones
>>739836153>>739835910Bone conduction. Bone. Someone shilled bone conduction headphones in the thread. They’re pretty much exclusively Bluetooth. Bluetooth sucks. Bone conduction headphones are provably bought mostly by women. >>739829389. Women will listen to music from phone speakers and have no problem with it. So the idea the sound is actually good or even passable is extremely suspect.
>>739836426>always has some delay even in low latency modeyeah i dont think so
>>739826737Nah, solid surround is where it's at.
Reminder that this is a stealth /mu/ thread and as such there will be exactly zero sensible viewpoints expressed in this thread, only mental illness.
>>739836507I can deal with it. I dont play competitive games
>>739834594sorry, not a homosexual or zoomer
Haven't tried them on my PC, but I'm looking into getting one of those chinky handheld emulation boxes, and I think it's be pretty nice with IEMs set up in bed for peak isolation.
>>739815826I have these too and I'm using them right now, the anime girl was a cute surprise. Unfortunately the left one died like 4 months after buying them, as in it sounded very muffled, but once I found their contact e-mail, they immediately replied to me offering me a replacement, sent it to me in less than a week and they didn't even ask for the defective earbud back.I think the only actual downside is that the earbud is a bit bigger than average, so it took my ear to adjust to the size even when using the smallest plugs, and this is coming from a 6'2" guy.
>>739809669Not really. I like using them when I need sound isolation or when I'm outdoors but I dislike having stuff in my ear for an extended period of time and the lack of a sense of space because of no pinna interaction is kind of a pain as well. Good if you're on a budget, though. Below fifty bucks or so it really is best to just get some chink iems since cheaper headphones are pretty terrible. But overall I highly prefer open back planar magentic headphones.>>739815826Wonderful model. I actually have 2 of these in case they ever get discontinued and use one as a tws with an adapter.
>>739815826I like Hexa more
>>739809669i like iems but with how close the drivers are to your ear drums, you are guaranteed to get hearing damage if you use them for hours a day.
>>739840543also their spatial sound is generally worse than open back headphones if you play games that benefit from directional audio.
>>739840543I use them for 20+ years without any problems
>>739828595>>739836604I live alone, I'm just a touch paranoid about tinnitus
>>739840758Understandable, would wish that shit only on my worst enemies.
>>739812739literally me
>>739836441are you the same guy from earlier that had a meltdown about some woman trying to buy skullcandy's at best buy
>>739822116>Moondrop
>>739835368Anime girls improve sound quality
For me, it's the Hifiman Ananda Nano.
>>739809669Integrated Enema Modules
Nah, they're memes.I own a Tanchjim Bunny DSP and regardless of equalizer settings, running peace on PC etc it's just barely better than just using my cheapo soundcore ankers over bluetooth. If good sound is your thing then buy a good set of headphones from sennheiser. I paid around $100 for a pair for mine years ago when they were 50% off and they're noticeable better than anything else i've used since.
