I remember the times when Indies managed to make this and this was considered ok (at best).wtf is happening to gaming nowadays?
What? The Shadowrun games were good. The studio got gutted though. Indy is very strange in that it accounts for industry vets spinning off, nepo baby pet projects, grass root studios, and the sloppest of premade asset bashers. You can easily grab 1000 Indy games at a time and be lead to think it's the wave of the future or completely garbage depending on what you're exposed to.
I liked Dragonfall a LOT at the time, it was one of my favorite games, I tried playing HK and just dropped it at some point, then years later I tried HK again and it seemed like a relic from another era, but not in a good way and I couldn't play it for too long, I didn't even touch Returns.I'd say it was a good effort for waht they were, but the games were held back by being made for mobile systems.
>>739813394I love both Dragonfall and HK.HK feels like an aerie dream, especially with plot progression.
I liked dragonfall but am dissapointed I couldn't dragonnuke berlin
>>739813037Sex with Glory
>>739813669This
>>739813669Sex with Glorysex with cute ogre tomboy (forgot her name)sex with the red dragon astral form
>>739813610based anon
>>739813037This got crowdfunded and people love Shadowrun
They butchered decking so much it's not even funnyHow did we go from>Why yes I do love reselling data and getting a million nuyen before the plot proper has even started, why do you askto>you can't sell any data except designated plot coupon for a cup of basedkaf>cyber combat is reduced to a watered down rehash of the regular combat interface that needs 15 minutes to open a door>which could've been opened with a password written somewhere on the level anyway because God forbid people would get soft locked or restart a mission for being retarded>oh and you can throw meme de buffs in combat I guess
Premise was good but games were very boring due to lack of adult content, too much reddit woke shit.
>>739813037Shadowrun was great though.
>>739813803>sex with cute ogre tomboy (forgot her name)Gobbet, bro
>>739813803Euger or something German, idk..
>>739814654>ogre>Gobbeti hate how retarded /v/ has become
>>739813037great OST to boot
There was some really good party members across the series, Racter was fucking based, shame they decided to kill themselves making pic related
I don't understand why Shadownrun isn't more popular.You have robots, elves, guns, magic, dragon president (RIP?), virtual reality, a dystopia, AI, cyborgs, ghouls, cyberzombies, vampires (I think) and whatever else, but it never seems to grab the general public's attention.
>>739814550This. why can't i bang the goth girl and the tomboy. we can have a implied relationship with the decker girl in the intro and that's it
>>739815347>no sexnow you understand, no need to thank me
>>7398130371. Holding hands with big woman uuuooohhh2. Mobile gaming and friendslop I guess
>>739815347It needs a proper RPG treatment. I like the HB games but they're very scaled back.
>>739813282>What? The Shadowrun games were good.They're not good.
they wanted to do a different IP than Shadowrun and accidentally exposed they were only good at Shadowrun. the battletech game killed the studio
>>739815696Battletech was their best game. It was this retarded game that no one asked for that ruined them.
>>739815696The battletech game was fine.
>>739813282They are good but they were considered mid, mostly on account of simplified rpg mechanics and linearity. The standards were higher back then.
I want another SR game that's at least as good as Dragonfall and Hong Kong.
>>739815825I gave it a shot and it had no hook. It's really forgettable. I remember it being sort of like nu Xcom, but that's about it. Not even sure about that.
>>739815825>Battletech was their best gameNo it wasn't. Their guy in charge (forgot his name) literally trooned out and decided to make this robot game. I hope Shadowrun has nothing to do with this.lol
>>739816034I don't care who the dev is. The game is still good.
>>739815347It used to be fairly popular, but it kind lost steam, I'm not sure what exactly were the causes, maybe scifi stuff in general and cyberpunk specially losing the public interest, but one thing is that the setting has become substantially less interesting as they advanced the plot, i.e corpos cleared up Chicago and elves stopped being racist.It has lost its edge.
>>739816187>It has lost its edge.I feel like thats every table top game nowadays
>>739813803Sex with GlorySex with EigerMarriage(and drowning Berlin in righteous dragon fire) with Feuerschwinge
>>739815073The hilarious part is Racter and Gaichu were two of the best party members they made and they were both backer rewards lol. A shame I couldn't feed Gaichu Is0bel.
>>739816368Ironically it really did lose the edge system in 6th ed. It's an optional rule now because the designers had no idea how to balance it.Then again 6th is also the edition where you can mod a gun into negative damage to heal people
Who owns that IP anymore? I thought that tge studio that made the SR trilogy got shutdown.
>>739813037NeW Shadowrun Game When?I wanna continue Romancing Glory!
Battletech was their best selling game btw
>>739816008How about you make your own Shadowrun story? With Mods its possible.
>>739816675>battletech was 8 years agohuh
>>739816632I last looked at the TTRPG in 4th edition.What changed between then and now?I heard Adepts got tattoos and tech was de-miniaturized so deckers need big slabs again.
>>739816714its over
Their new game is going to about a woman grafted onto a man's body. Should I expect deep troon metaphors?
>>739816187>I'm not sure what exactly were the causesMicrosoft putting the license outside of the tabletop game in gay baby jail, and literal Mormon embezzlement in Catalyst Game Labs resulting in the then-people working on Shadowrun not getting paid so noone professional wants to work with them anymore, so standards slipped because retard freelancers desperate for a paycheck started doing the lion's share of the work.
>>739816702I have no creativity.
>>739816938fucking mormons, we should've killed them when we had the chance
>>739816853So 4 to 5 brought back the weighted system so no more point buy. Simplified skills and math. Basically reigns in character builds and cuts skill bloat. I fucking love point buy so I didn't like it but it played fine5 to 6 is just garbage. More simplified, worse math. Fighting takes forever and PC mortality is way down. It sucks.
>>739813282>The Shadowrun games were good. The studio got gutted thoughWhy? They don't seem like budget busters.
>>739816930Can somebody tell those "people" that Trump won?
>>739816187Been a while since I've played it, but didn't Returns tease Bug City in the ending? Wonder why Bug City wasn't part of the trilogy or made as a 4th game.
>>739815825>Battletech with mods was their best game. FTFY.Base Battletech was kinda ass.
>>739817081Yeah. SR4 to 5 is a sidegrade hampered by shitty editing (because once again, CGL can't hire professionals) but SR5 to 6 is a retardgrade. Completely different game that's borderline unplayable. And that's before I delve into some of the people who worked on this. They unironically had someone working on Shadowrun who openly admitted never playing Shadowrun before and didn't understand it.
>>739813282They are definitely not good.>>739816004No, they are shit but were considered good because standards were extremely low back then, as they are now.Compare them to widely considered mediocre games like Fallout: Tactics. Tactics is so far superior it isn't even funny. Yet it was considered extremely mid when it came out.The shadowrun games are basically phone games, they're so shallow and simplistic. Actually, isn't XCOM on phones? And shadowrun makes XCOM look like a fucking once-in-a-lifetime masterpiece. So even by phone game standards, these are incredibly unimpressive games.
>years later decided to nerf kneecapping with shotgunsfor what purpose
>>739817247>never playing Shadowrun beforeThat's fine. Not everyone has a gaming group, but you can get feedback from fans and get up to date.>didn't understand it.That's not fine. How can you not understand the game by simply reading the rulebook? If you lack the ability to comprehend how things work you shouldn't be altering anything.
>>739817091Paradox bought them in 2018, after Honk Kong. And they only made shitty games.
>still no RIFTs trpg
>>739817210Considering how many idiots voluntarily sided with Vauclair in Dragonfall and doomed everyone, I can only imagine most people would cry when they get bad ended and infested with an Insect Spirit if they actually had a game based in the Chicago Exclusion Zone.
>>739817504It wasn't just reading the rulebook, there are plenty of people who work on Shadowrun from the lore side who never touch the RPG. The problem was that this fucktard didn't touch EITHER side and was hired by them, proceeded to leak in production books like a sieve, and STILL wasn't fired. CGL dumpstered a game that used to be a comfortable 3rd-5th place amongst all RPGs ever until the late 2000s.
My hero. No, I don't care about the Horrors.
The AI was a very persuasive fellah, who knew that Dragons simply by existing actually were preventing the world from being overrun by extradimensional cockroach demons from Chinese hell?
>>739818307Me, because I played Earthdawn.
>>739818307>extradimensional cockroach demons from Chinese hell?Quick, produce vehicles for the cockroaches. They'll auto destruct!
>>739813037I found berlin way more depressing and soul crushing than the walled city despite all the lore dumps about it being literally the worst place on earth
>>739818486You're thinking too slow. You want escalators and lathes, anon.
>>739817247It's crazy how bad CGLs editing team was. Time of war, Shadowrun, even their reprints where they're "fixed" rules are all over the god damn place and important mechanics are buried in fluff blurbs and vice versa. Or the dreaded "explained" one one page only to bring it back up twenty pages laterIt never fails to make me laugh.
>>739815562The Genesis one was awesome. It's still fun to this day in fact and something I plan on playing again soon. The SNES one had a cool story but the gameplay was dire. I liked the online multiplayer FPS game but it's dead now.Never played the tabletop, but if I found about it sooner I probably would've loved it. The mix of cyberpunk science fantasy is pretty rad.
>>739817319>The shadowrun games are basically phone gamesand it was obvious given how the UI screams touch interface even on PC
>>739813037nigger Shadowrun games are great. First may be 6/10, rest are Easy 8/10 games.
>>739818535Pretty sure copies of OSHA regulations would repel them like a crucifix repels vampires.
>>739813037Every single second I spend playing Cyberpunk 2077 and fighting the same boringass human enemies I'm thinking of how amazing it would have been to have a Shadowrun game with that budget, open world etc.Or something like VTMB at least in atmosphere and styleANYTHING but the fucking boring human gang enemies forever of Cyberpunk
>>739818697It will never not make me laugh that once you account for the limited amount of content, this is the single most accurate mechanical tabletop translation of its time and is still one of the most accurate.
Thanks for watching my video
>>739818535>Announce free shit it being given away at the top of an escalator to nowhere>Only one bug figures it out because they kill eachother to get on the escalator first.
>>739816930normally I'd think "cool, sick concept" because I'm into biopunk a lot, but we live in the gay and retarded timeline
Dragonfall was the only game of the trilogy that I actually enjoyed. The moment-to-moment gameplay was pretty weak across all three games and more than a little janky at times, but Dragonfall's plot and characters were hands-down the best of the three. I've tried to play Hong Kong multiple times and I lose interest very quickly every time, it's a bit of a shame.I once was at a wedding reception dinner and Jordan Weisman was there. It was a little surreal.
>>739816930Is it trans coded if I find this kind of hot?
>>739818301I kneel my king, if we can kill dragons, we can kill Horrors
>>739818941The random encounters are a pretty cool mechanic too, very effective way to spice things up and make the game feel more alive with limited resources, very elegantly designed game all around, just a bit grindy.
>>739816930Cool of them for disclosing the funding source in the title
>>739818301This is antisemitism
Dragonfall was so good.Hong kong had too much text, i often ended up skipping most of it.Thinking of replaying the trilogy with the same character build, i might make a melee build (with the obvious 6 charisma for checks) but i have no idea what to also use with it. Adept? Cyberware samurai?I wonder if a melee rigger is possible.
Returns was such a shallow first game. it was basically designed for Samurai. Returns didn't even have rigging, or decking, from what i member
>>739820465Last time I played I went with a mage-adept. But honestly ended up mostly being a pure mage.Most fun playthrough was honestly was as an elf assassin with some self-buffing spells and high Cha for speech checks.I liked playing around with all the weapons in the game and playing as a weapon specialist in general.
>>739819478Humanity will prevail. We always do.
>>739818924Dumb post written by a boringass human
>>739820585It was fine, basically an extended playtest for the engine/concept.If you enjoy the combat system it was fun enough and did have some variety so long as you specialize in one area.
>>739813037Shadowrun was really fucking good, Dragonfall was absolute fucking kino.Depressing what happened.>>739813394yeah after dragonfall HK was weak
>>739819478But to kill dragons Vauclair needed to basically torture her for over a decade to finish his research, where the hell is someone going to capture a horror to do the same?
>>739820646I wasnt really a fan of mage, i did a dragonfall playthru and i kinda hated it.But i hate playing mage in any game i play ever.
>>739818697fucking love this game
>>739820465Hong Kong gets infinitely better if you just shit on Duncan and Is0bel the entire game. Telling Duncan to fuck off and remaining a shadowrunner will have to do though I unironically always side with Qian Ya in the end, fuck Kowloon.
>>739818697Figuring out how to heal Stark(hell just FINDING Stark) without a guide was kino. Gator Shaman MC/Stark(when healed, Illene Two Fists until then, Winston until I rush the Correctional Facility to get her)/Freya(or any Decker if the run needs one) is my go to group basically every time I play it.
this nigga be drinkin söykaf
>>739821014we will have more advanced technology and magic knowledge
>>739816930I think they are supposed to be lovers, so it's unlikely that they are pursuing the tranny angle. I hope not at least, it looks cool. But I'm skeptical about the game, since HBS lost like 95% of employees, I'm not kidding.
>>739817216The DLC fixed it.Most of the mods, especially the big overhauls, are awful.
Are there any games similar to Shadowrun, other than Cyberpunk?
>>739823295Arcanum
>>739813037I played it before Cyberpunk release to set myself in a mood, needless to say I end up refunding Cyberpunk.
>>739823587not even remotely similar
>>739824140Facts. Dragonfall in particular is my favorite, and it kicks the absolute shit out of Cyberpunk.
I love the 2E vibes
>>739825535Is that the Secrets of Power gang?
>>739825535For an early open world rpg with a good amount of freedom and an interesting setting, it doesn't get enough credit.
i dont care how many times she breaks my ribs I WANNA CLIMB THAT MOUNTAIN
>>739813037https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GPGQoR6f6w
anons? is the User Created Content any good in any of the shadowrun games? by this i mean the steam workshop or whatever ‘subcribe and play’ platform, i dont mean like big overhaul mods. any good campaigns or unique game modes?
Can I say how much I love the fact that Rigger became a real life class and it's the most op, kek.
I want Kindly Cheng to make me worship her feet.
>>739826629It's something like a tech-y beastmaster.Except robots(and vehicles) > beasts
