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>game as succubus
>retards try to romance them
succubi are pure evil and can't be trusted
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>>739814929
He made the thread again
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>>739814929
Lawful paladin X Succubus to be redeemed is the highest kino pairing you fucking faggot
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>can't romance mommy
absolute crap game, can't believe I spent so much time for this crap, never even finished it
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>>739814929
Desna subjected her to rape correction, so it's fine.
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>>739815085
>redeemed
you can't redeem sluts
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>>739814929
She looks like she fucks Angelic men
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>>739814929
Agreed.
>Dragon Age Origins
>Succubus has mind controlled a man to love her and won't release him because she "loves" him
>Demand she lets him go
>"AHHH HONEY, THESE PEOPLE HAVE COME FOR OUR (FICTIONAL) CHILDREN!"
>The man dies brainwashed for the bitch succubus
Yeah, she totally loved him. This is why I kill them in any game I can, they're the most insidious of all demons.
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>>739814929
>Game as a chaotic good desnan tiefling like you are supposed to
>succubutt is as canon a romance as you can possibly get
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>NOOO HERO PLEASE YOU HAVE TO SAVE ME, THE SUCCUBUS WANTS TO SUCK MY DICK AGAIN. PLEASE, SHE'S TRYING TO FUCK ME AGAIN AHHH THIS IS GOING TO TAKE HOURS AND HOURS AS OUR BODIES BECOME ONE AND I FINALLY COLLAPSE FROM EXHAUSTION, AFTER WHICH THE EVIL SUCCUBUS COOKS ME A HOMEMADE MEAL. PLEASE, I CAN'T TAKE THIS ANYMORE
What did the poor succubus victim mean by this?
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>>739814929
>succubi are pure evil and can't be trusted
She never denies that. Moreover, it takes her an insane conscious effort to do good deeds when her true nature screams in protest. Pic very related.
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>>739815392
>Demon who exists to trick men into sex so it can eat their soul
>Retard thinks it's going to be lovey dovey hentai time
Monster girl encyclopedia has been an utter blight and drawn out so many braindead idiots.
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>>739815512
Parthurnax wasn't awakened to good by an ontologically good goddess though. And his evil nature was never removed from him. He chose to do good by his own reasoning even though he will always have a nature that declares he should destroy. Arue was remortalized by remembering the lives that created her soul and then her evil nature was completely excised by a goddess.
On the one hand you can trust arue to actually get fixed but on the other hand her fate was given to her by someone else. She barely counts as an individual when trying to calculate her moral actions.
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>>739815512
>it takes her an insane conscious effort
She literally had her nature changed by a god as punishment. She was pure evil before and didn't have an arc. She's only "good" because she was mindbroken by a god into being a completely different person. Demons can't be saved and can't be good.
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>>739815879
>She's only "good" because she was mindbroken by a god into being a completely different person
Next time try not to speedread and dialogue. Desna only showed Arue the memories of her victims which made her experience guilt and triggered the desire to be different than what she was. The personality shift that occured was of her own volition .
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>>739815390
>chaotic good desnan tiefling
Not even close to canon. Owlcat obviously intended you to go the angel route, the sword is the very first thing you encounter.
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What class do I make my main char
I'm going to take Seelah, EMber, the wizard bitch and the spider archer bitch
Seelah will be modded to be human
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>>739816238
angels are gay
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>>739815932
Is there a single line that Regill says which isn't based as fuck
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>>739815085
Right, because a paladin of all people would want to marry one of the most used hags of the multiverse.
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>>739816380
I agree with you.
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>>739816178
He knows, he's baiting you with one of his many shitposting tactics
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Remider
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If I ever won a billion dollars in the powerball I'd pay to have the pathfinder games fully voiced.
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>>739816971
>manage to disgust even a creature of pure degeneracy and lust
I AM the greasiest of greaseballs.
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>>739816486
Enjoy getting cucked by the other two, or your childless relationship with the hag that tried to get you killed
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>>739817145
Voice over fags are incomprehensible to me.
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>>739816178
From what arue said in game it wasn't even her victims it was the little abyssal worm souls that coalesced into her being. It was her own past lives not the people she murdered as a hivemind of dead sinners. Sinners who were chatouc evil enough to get sent to the abyss in the first place.
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>>739817191
A paladin would choose celibacy over any of the roasties in this game.
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Marrying a succubus is cool and all but it's a one-way ticket to NTR
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>>739815182
your goddess literally does that, even regenerates her hymen for you
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what game has the most in-depth succubus mechanics?
i assume it's going to be some porn game, but i want womb crest customization, involved drain skill systems, stuff like that
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>>739817191
>I've looked into her soul...wow she sucked off that many minotaur huh
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>>739817217
>Sinners who were chatouc evil enough to get sent to the abyss in the first place
And they lived terrible lives to end up like that, she saw how their hopes and dreams got crushed enough for them to end up becoming evil in the first place
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>>739817325
Only if you choose poorly friend
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>>739815262
but it's a succubus that teaches you the cool blood magic
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>>739817387
>literally kills you if you go beyond hand-holding
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>>739817325
The funny part is that she's the only loyal romance option in the game. One is a whore that constantly tries to get knocked up by your friends, the other one is a whore that outright cuckolds you by fucking random men, and the last one isn't a whore but tries to get you killed because she's jelly of you (and she's supposedly lawful good)
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Regardless of how she feels, she deserves to pay for her crimes against the living. She has the heresy, torture, rape and murder of thousands(+) of people.
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>>739817387
Can D&D succubi even be sluts when their mere kiss sucks the soul out of even a might being like the Nameless One?
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>>739815182
In fantasy you can at a metaphysical level.
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>>739817483
You did kill Regill, right? You care about justice, right?
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>>739817451
I guess it all depends on what matters to you. Do want want your waifu to be an unsuccessful roastie who you have to tame, or the biggest whore in the history of romancable companions who used to gargle beholder cum for fun. There's something for everyone.
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>>739814929
And that's why simps are lower than eunuchs in the royal court
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>>739817570
Hello Wendubro, I know you try to forget about it but remember that she got passed around by mongrels, she's a bonafide roastie just like Cam and Arue. Probably the most roasted one of them all seeing as she's just a regular mortal who didn't just fuck regular men like Cam did
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>>739817325
Sometimes you are the one with a harem and the succubutt has to be ok with it.
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>>739815512
you can overcome your evil nature by getting struck in the head maybe if you're lucky
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>>739817546
That's a completely false equivalence. War, especially against demonic forces intent on destroying reality, is a messy business and the most ethical way to wage it is to end it as soon as possible. Regill does not delight in murder and rape. Arue deliberately perverted people, made them enemies of their own gods and doomed them for eternity. She had no goals for the greater good, no cause. She just burned through people in order to get off. It's possible that after the world is saved,

A soldier killing an invader and inflicting collateral damage versus a mass murdering serial rapist and perverted of souls.
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>>739814929
I would imagine a succubus would try to romance the player and not the other way around
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>>739817693
I'm an adult anon, I don't need my partners to be unicorns. I just draw the line at ten thousands years of demon spunk.
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>>739817774
If arue let herself do anything then she wouldn't be physically capable of stopping herself.
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>>739817814
Huh? But you're the one who went out of his way to say "unsuccessful" so clearly you care about it to an extent, otherwise you wouldn't have pointed that out
>I just draw the line at ten thousands years of demon spunk
I know getting cucked isn't a problem for you. In fact you probably get off to it
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>>739817906
>In fact you probably get off to it
I think you're projecting. By the way, she found the bull for tonight. It's an old friend of hers :)
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>>739817948
Kek the funny part is that, this is all you can do, shitpost, while Wenduag literally goes out of her way in-game to try and fuck other people
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>>739818007
Never forget the demon cum anon. She'll always remember how it tastes :)
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>>739817948
Arue says she hates demon sex though because its either the other party nutting and falling asleep or her straight up killing somebody. Consume or be consumed. Use or be used. No mutually beneficial sex. She wouldn't ever pick a demon to cuck you with even if she was going to cuck you.
Camelia would cuck you with a demon though, she willingly goes to demon brothels during your romance.
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>>739818083
>Camelia would cuck you with a demon though
So would Wendu really, if that business with her father hadn't happened she probably would have ended up taking that Savamelekh cock.
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>>739818083
>Arue says she hates demon sex
>I hate anal anon I know I did it for Bath'Kor for years but I'm pure now
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>used goods fag infighting over who is the bigger cuck
Fascinating.
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>>739818128
>probably
This is the key word. Wendu needs correction. Arue needs a time machine lmao
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Random side question.

Is daeran really evil?

Hes listed as Neutral Evil, but he seems more chaotic than evil.
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>>739817287
What god does your Paladin follow? 'Cause I looked around and only found the god of faggotry.
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>>739818140
The actual metaphor here is something like
>before you I only did anal
>but now that you impregnated me I realized that PiV is infinitely better and anal doesn't even count
Which isn't a great analogy but fits the situation better.
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>>739818183
>Wendu needs correction
I'll remind you once again that you should be thankful to Woljif and Daeran for finding her ugly
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>>739816317
Magic Deceiver
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>>739818192
Daeran is basically an evil puppet. His alignment is not entirely his fault. He'd be a chaotic neutral asshole if he wasn't being used against his will by something that wants to kill for no reason.
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>>739818192
Alignments are very fuzzy things. Him being Neutral Evil just means he's an asshole who plays by his own rules, but only some of the time. He never does anything outright criminal, and his brand of being cruel is just making a mockery of anything he comes across.
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>>739818192
The alignment system never made any sense because it implicitly assumes objective universal morality. What seems chaotic to you might be evil to someone else.
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>>739818192
He's a victim of a restrictive alignment system. His selfishness, callousness and willingness to sacrifice others is what gives him NE. Interpersonally he's quite charming and thoughtful. Also the overwhelming evil entity

>>739818241
And you should be thankful Desna pulled Arue off the demon dick. Also desu it's 2 bits of party banter vs the entire core concept of a character being a demonic whore.
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>>739818376
>it implicitly assumes objective universal morality.
They also have literal gods that are responsible for your souls after death, it's stupid but not entirely stupid.
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>>739818379
>And you should be thankful Desna pulled Arue off the demon dick
I am thankful of something that happened decades before the game even happened, yes
>Also desu it's 2 bits of party banter
Pffffft
>she only tries to cuck me once, it's okay!
Those 2 bits are 2 too many, also... no it's not, Wenduag is constantly lusting after Daeran lmao, the very first thing she does upon seeing him is look at him with cock hungry eyes and point out how handsome he is
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>>739818492
>>she only tries to cuck me once, it's okay!
>she only got dp'd by demons 10,000 times, it's okay!
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>>739818376
>it implicitly assumes objective universal morality
It doesn't assume, objective morality is a very real and observable force in these settings.
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>>739818376
Azata are the weirdest when it comes to this shit. The chaotic good demigods by nature can't agree on whats good or not. They just know when something is too chaotic and when something is actually evil or lawful.
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>>739814929
Funnily enough her backstory is more fit for an incubus, if they made her male she would have no redeeming qualities.
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>>739818192
Daeran and Greybor should have their alignments swapped.
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>>739818616
If she was male half the faggots that shit and piss themselves over her would be seething at Owlcat for making an incubus and not a succubus.
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>>739818665
>Greybor
I know the game is old news now but can I just chime in to say how much this dull motherfucker SUCKS
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>>739815113
>Guys literally only want one thing and it's disgusting
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>>739818616
Demon races are decided by what is the primary sin out of all the sins they committed. They are all amalgamations and none are strictly one role of representing a singular sinful action.
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>>739815113
How does the wendufag deal with the fact her endgame is so much worse than Arue's even if you go through all the hoops to get a true love ending?
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>>739818778
The same way he deals with the fact that she cuckolds him (yes, attempted infidelity is still infidelity)
he just copes, ignores it and pretends it's not that big of a deal, a lot like Shartfags now that I think about it
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There should be a game where you in a love triangle with an angel and a succubus. If you pick the succubus, she turn good but the angel become a fallen angel.
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>>739818778
Wenduag is better for the "I can fix her" crowd purely on virtue of actually having things to fix. Arue already has the job done by Desna, literally cucked out of a compelling redemption arc.
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I know we don't ask these types of questions here, but is there any particular reason why the only thing we talk about in CRPG threads are the romances?
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>>739818831
Doesn't that sort of happens in heroes of might and magic dark messiah?
I could be misremembering.
Is that the joke?
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>>739815932
>game tries to position Regill as bad
>unironically makes him the best companion character
MY GOAT
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>>739818857
Good thing Arue isn't an "I can fix her" girl then, you go enjoy your cucky romance with the schizo with two personalities that contradict each other
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can you correct her in her young form?
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>>739818881
No, you do romance a succubus in that but the other girl is a priestess. Also the succubus doesn't turn good, she just on your side.
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>>739818883
>>game tries to position Regill as bad
You wish, the game tries to position Regill as this badass dude who is always right and wins every argument he gets into. You want to be a victim but the truth is that you're not.
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Arue is for people that want to interact with the overarching theme of redemption
Wenduag is for people who need to grind their gf into the dirt to keep her in her place as a dog/slave
Camelia is for people who want an unrepentant psycho slut
But none of them are good waifus in terms of gaming as a whole.
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>Owlcat game (actually more like "any western rpg" lmao)
>every female love interest is a giga omega whore
What did THEY mean by this?
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>>739818981
He's Lawful Evil by alignment, but he never really does anything evil does he? He's just pure, unadulterated autistic LAW.
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>>739819023
That's not true anon you can romance the old lady with 1/3 as much content as everyone else who isn't even in your party until the last 10% of the game.
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>>739818909
Arue also showcases how you can't have it both ways. Her redemption is at stake but there's absolutely nothing to bite at it.
>urgh succubus corruption hard
and
>god I love being nice and friendly and never doing wrong ever
Very bipolar writing.
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>time to buff every 90 seconds because if you don't, these 8 trash mobs will gape you
Fucking hell Pathfinder can be tiresome. Love the idea of the Crusade and the Path options, but actual combat can be so fucking tedious.

I think I gave up after I kept getting skullfucked by Greybor's dragon and had to do some bullshit cheese + blowing through all my limited spells to get me through.
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>>739819023
Considering even 4chan posters love the used goods and defend them zealously, they just did what sells to westerners.
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>>739819062
In the game world, he is 'evil' because he does shit like let the troops get massacred by the gargoyles because it would be a waste of resources to protect them.
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>>739819108
>every 90 seconds
Take the mythic feats that extend spell duration, alternatively you can use cheat mods or lower the difficulty so you can just walk through the game.
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>>739819062
His evil is him advocatin you sacrifice people en masse for the greater good.
Which good on the game for calling consequentialism evil but still.
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>>739818909
You prefer all the character development happen offscreen? Arue is weeb-bait whose biggest crisis of conscious is about wanting to fuck you too much. She's the safe, default option for anons who picked Liara in Mass Effect.
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>>739819023
cassia is a sheltered virgin princess, though
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>>739819108
Yeah. That's why you either play on normal and only buff with the core stuff (more like the TTRPG experience really), or you use something like bubble buffs.
But it's definitely the most chore like part of the game for sure, even if I do enjoy the fantasy of layering a fuckton of magical effects on yourself.
Than fuck for the mythic abilities that extend the duration of buffs at least. That helps a lot.
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>>739818909
>schizo with two personalities that contradict each other
Unironically a huge issue with Wenduag's writing
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>>739815932
>jubilost - is based
>regill - is based
I really thought we would get a based ratling in the 40kek game
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>>739819062
>joins the legions of hell
>finds it too disorganized
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>>739819250
The man would go to Axis and be the one guy in the entire universe to find disorder there.
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>>739819106
Her redemption isn't at a stake, her insecurities and low self esteem make her think that, but it isn't. There's a reason why she doesn't fall even if you ignore her questline, she continues on regardless if she'll succeed or not, but she doesn't fall
>Very bipolar writing
That's the funniest part, Arue deep down wants to murder and rape everyone she sees yet she still manages to be way more consistent that Wenduag
>>739819176
No, her character development happens in-game, the problem is that you think a character can only develop by going from evil to good (something that Wenduag completely fails at, as she only "redeems" herself in a conversation at the end of her romance, and she never actually commits to it until the ending slides where she's suddenly good. NEVER EVER forget that your so called redeemed waifu hurts innocent people in a dance of masks and may even end up murdering one of them, the worst part is that to see a character's even there you have to complete their questline so there is no excuse lmao)
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>>739819106
Arue is there to be a case study. You are watching the experiment desna is carrying out. She is the second evil extra-planar entity to be able to stop being objectively ontologically evil. She is there to be an example that post-life individuals are capable of free will and redemption.
You don't have to think shes actually a pure virgin waifu now to not get in the way of her redemption. Shes just there to be an outlier, not to be a result of your actions.
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Wendogfags actually sniffing their own farts becuase they experimented their first Viconia clone is hilarious, especially when she's a terribly written one, go romance Morrigan or something
She, too, cucks you by trying to fuck one of your companions so I'm sure you're going to LOVE that, and her romance is good, unlike Wenduag's
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>>739819326
>capable of free will
Is that what you call being Desna's zogpuppet? Could've fooled me. Fact is that she had zero virtuous qualities or misgivings before her divine kidnapping. Whatever Desna put into that succubus' body isn't Arueshalae.
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>>739819442
If she wasn't capable of free will she'd still be acting based on her inherent racial alignment, even after desna gave her her past lives' consciousnesses back. The fact is that theres two canonical characters that have escaped being evil in that way and arue is one of them. After you die in pathfinder you aren't supposed to be capable of alignment change.
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>>739819442
>Whatever Desna put into that succubus' body isn't Arueshalae
Pretty much what Desna did, she took the pain, emotions and recent memories of the priest Aureshalae had just killed and forced them into her mind. She didn't experience empathy before that, but worth noting that planar beings are already amalgamations of mortal souls, Desna adding one more shouldn't have outweighed all the evil souls already part of her makeup, so there is some truth to her being an outlier. She's for sure not like Nocticula who literally decided to stop being evil through sheer force of will.
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>>739819556
>>739819689
Both Nocticula and Nahyndri decided to after talking to little girls while Arueshalae had to get juiced up on Desna roids. It's naive to think that any influence from an inherently Chaotic Good being doesn't carry the corruptive influence of Chaotic Good, especially since said being isn't even a post-mortal God who can comprehend the difference.
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>>739819689
>she took the pain, emotions and recent memories of the priest Aureshalae had just killed and forced them into her mind
Headcanon
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>>739819108
Yeah that dragon is ass so before you better pick dragon hunting quest later if you want to safely go to the west.
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This isn't foreboding at all.
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The Legend path goes into detail about how shifting into other planar beings instills this sense of duty to another cause that pervades until you are no longer you. Desna just like Areelu was in the wrong for doing this to a sapient mind, regardless of her opinions on demonkind.
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Why didn't she just make new kids?
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>>739820087
No it doesn't, stop making shit up retard. There are mythic paths that are not beings from other planes by the way, your example doesn't even work
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>>739820041
Feed this roastie to the swarm
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>>739820179
Genuinely only Lich, which could still be said to be influence from the plane of shadow, since all undead in Pathfinder are massive dicks without exception.
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>>739820387
>lich and not fucking gold dragon
absolute retard
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>>739814929
Who's talking about trust? I just want to stick my penis in her.
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>>739820423
You don't get Gold Dragon before the Legend path, icebrain.
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>>739820161
She gave virgin birth, and then she saved herself for the knight commander.
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>>739819689
>pain, emotions and recent memories of the priest Aureshalae had just killed and forced them into her mind
No. Why is such a simple topic so misinterpreted when it's literally explained in-game? This is a rhetorical question, I know it's because you spend 24/7 here shitposting and that warps your perception of things
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>>739819062
He's a sadist who uses his authority to administer cruel punishments as often as he possibly can, up to and including executing his own men rather than leaving them to the enemy. The alignment system in Pathfinder and its metaphysical consequences ensure that evil committed to prevent greater evil is still judged harshly by Pharasma.
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>>739816486
Hey, if a run through slut was good enough for Jesus, its good enough for us.
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>>739818192
>Is daeran really evil?
Good people don't get others killed or trick them into homosexual encounters for their own amusement. I loved how he baited Arue, however. What a madlad.
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>>739818083
Camellia doesn't really like It either. She went there for normalfag incubus sex. A vavakia would make her run for her life.
>Demon sex
So that explains why evil arue sex is so shit. Bitch just drains and dumps
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>>739821153
My hero in the middle
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>>739821271
I would've liked Greybor more if that's what he was like desu
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>>739821153
If wenduag was actually more cat or spider like with gremlin energy I'd actually be into her. But shes a kiss-ass brown-nose suck-up sniveling groveling giga-traitor who is lying to you for the entire run time as she tries to outmaneuver you. And position herself as top dog.
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>>739818734
>He doesn't like the retarded suicide dwarf with a terrible build that chain fails his checks in his own quest and throws himself on a lvl 20 dragon for an instant game over unless you intervene, then pay premium so he can stay in the party
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>>739821153
Greybor looks oddly satisfied, surely Wendu wouldn't?
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>>739819023
Ask me how I know you're a gacha slut
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Is there a single non-whore white woman you can romance in the game?
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>>739820161
Her child was a foil to her ambitions and she openly admitted that she would have created the worldwound regardless.

>>739821398
He'd fixed easily with toybox, there's nothing wrong with stalkers. Problem is he's a hypocritical asshole with an ego problem and if you call him on it he betrays you. Just not the kind of character that lends itself to sympathy and we've already got a bunch of those who's builds aren't purposely gimped for unknown reasons.
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>>739818083
You need to understand that for shitposters like him "demon sex" means doing anything but missionary with the lights turned off, not torturing someone to death while you rape them
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>>739821494
I'm sure there's some whiteness under all that gunk
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>>739820161
If she just moved on and wasn't a schizo bitch the game wouldn't have happened. Thank your mom
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>>739819390
Why are you so mad? Who hurt you anon? Who was your RL Wendaug?
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>>739821648
>Pure shit
Just like anon's favorite dead fish virgin weeb wife
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>>739821792
>RL Wendaug
not him but that basically could be any roastie really
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>>739814929
What are some games where I can play AS tue succubus though?
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>>739821370
And then you smack her down and make her your bitch, or kill her. What is the problem? She thought you could manipulate others and be a big shot and discovered she was just a little cog the entire time.
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>>739821494
Galfrey.
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>>739815113
It's funny how the nonstop begging for child endings stopped the instant the succ was the one to get them
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>>739819062
>but he never really does anything evil does he
He's a hellknight, which means that he's a literal devil worshipper. I'm not memeing. He literally worships Asmodeus.
The Ascension ending even ends with him going into hell so that he can help the devils organize it.
You also have to factor in all of torture he and his order do. Or the fact that they abandon and sometimes even murder their wounded if they believe that doing so will grant them a tactical advantage.
Like another anon said earlier, he's also a sadist, who very clearly delights in doling out punishment to his subordinates.
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>>739822047
but he's lawful so that's okay and it doesn't count
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>>739821648
>you can accept her blessing and be poopy for the rest of the game
>now your companions must contemplate the aroma every moment they're around you
Only a trickster would do this surely. Or maybe a Lich
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>>739822018
>What is the problem?
That she's an annoying whore, that's the problem.
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>>739822047
>play devil path
>cheliax shows up to tell me how cool penal units are
>"no that's retarded, they should be working to outfit actual competents"
>cheliax and mephisto both hit me with that lawful evil stare
>everyone acts like I'm a bleeding heart for putting them through 24/7 labor quotas instead
Regill was right about devils, they can't help but be retarded
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>>739821648
My kweeenn
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>>739817451
Why did Owlcat fail so miserably at this game's romance options?
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>>739822910
>reddit dragon having even double digits
I dread to see Nenio's score
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why do retards here throw a hiss fit over some fictional character virginity? it's like the same retard that can't do evil things because he doesn't want to hurt people
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>>739823106
Nenio didn't even make it in
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>>739823107
This
Better men accept the woman that's ready to settle down
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>>739823107
They're afraid of getting cucked, according to purityfags on /v/ women that have had sex before are more likely to cheat on you which makes the damage control for a woman that actually cuckolds you even funnier
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>>739823107
>Refuse to play a cuck that turns whores into domestic whores
I mean yeah, it is the same as refusing to roleplay as evil, and they both have ro do with your personal moral compass and what you react to in disgust. But whats actually the benefit of simping for a whore in and out of game? Its much less than the already lackluster experience of an evil playthrough.
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>>739816486
A paladin, for starters, sees people as people and not as objects, meaning "used" is not a term he would even consider
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>>739823146
There will be no copulation today
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>>739823336
Anon, you're on /v/, this place treats paladins like medieval judge Dredd, the average /v/dditor has no idea what a paladin is supposed to be
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>>739823107
>retard that can't do evil things because he doesn't want to hurt people
I just mostly dislike evil option in wotr, they're just mostly stupid shit like "i don't like you, die"
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>>739818883
The game never tries to position Regill as bad since he's a companion and you're free to agree with him as much as you want, It's just that the game makes it clear that he's Lawful Evil.
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>>739816486
Reminder that one of the Lawful Good deities of pathfinder embodies brothels and trannies
pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Lymnieris
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>/v/ hates used goods
>most /v/ liked western RPGs best girls are used goods
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>>739823328
>But whats actually the benefit of simping for a whore in
Your precious virgin romance in this game is a cunt that tries to get you killed, no thank you
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>fictional characters don't have sex with you (???)
>seethe
Are you all mentally ill or retarded?
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>>739823328
>whats actually the benefit of simping for a whore in
You get a loyal revirginized succ wife
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>>739823548
The actual answer is that this board only cares about used goods or cuckoldry depending on the character. If it's a character the average anon dislikes, then being used goods is bad, if it's a character they like, then it's fine
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>>739823548
>/v/ is one person
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I have nothing against arue but the guy who called her refurbished goods a while ago made me laugh
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>>739823551
Contrary to popular belief, you do not have to do a romance in every video game. Its not always tied to the plot like in dragon quest 5
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>>739823729
But my penus wenus
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>>739823595
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>>739823548
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>>739823675
It may as well be with how many of you act like a singular hivemind
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>>739823595
I'm mostly just bewildered by how common headcanon is among her defenders. The "regrown hymen" is the funniest cope considering she already had that ability as a succubus.
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>>739823817
is it? i've seen Wendog do more mental gymnastics and headcanon than any other waifu fags here. someone post that wall of text to play as a Paladin while romancing Wenduag or hell any of Darkergrey art
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>>739823791
Who the fuck voted on this and how did Wenduag and Cleopatra make it
Not enough people have played expeditions rome to vote her in a board wide poll
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>>739823817
Not as funny as Wendubros trying to pretend she only fucked Lann or Cambros pretending she's a virgin
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>>739823957
>>739824005
The deflection to other women is also a common tactic. Very consistent behavior, it's like they truly wish to emulate the sensation of arguing like a female.
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>>739823548
>>739823551
The devs of affected games are making the delibarate choice to write all their female characters as pure shit.

It's almost like it's SOMEONE'S agenda poisoning the west and making this happen across not just the game industry but all other forms of culture as well. Now WHO could be the people ultimately behind all this I wonder?
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>>739823817
The defemse of her should never be that shes not a whore. It should always be along the lines of
>"the story and the character I am playing within that story would go out of their way to support her redemption and romance her despite her past because metaphysically she is a rare occurrence in reality and her redemption is trustworthy enough by the rules of the setting"
At that point the only argument against is personal disgust, which is a completely fine reason to not consent to a relationship.
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>>739823959
I made it up
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>>739814929
look I'm just saying, gold dragons are immune to level drain
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>>739824043
>fans of X shitpost about Y
>nooooo Yfags you can't talk back stop that!
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>>739824058
Arue existed in the tabletop and serves a clear purpose in the narrative. Romance was a possible outcome but not required in the tabletop. Tabletop players could make up any number of virgin waifu characters to marry in their own runs of the module. The crpg is limited.
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>>739824058
>Now WHO could be the people ultimately behind all this I wonder?
Wypipos affiliated with hook nosed tribe?
>>739823791
>Cleo instead of the roman tomboy you can marry
Wendufags have shit taste
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>>739824058
>pure shit.
Broooo not every female romance is Camelia
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>>739824058
>The JOOS want to force me to have a cute succubus wife!
You people are so unserious.
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>>739823791
this chart only proves /v/ has dogshit taste
>invisibitch
please kys
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>>739824221
In lieu of defending the ludicrous assertion that a succubus can be "revirginized" or that it ever occured in the game script, you instead opted to attack your schizophrenic visions of another waifufag. Good day, sweet lunatic.
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>>739824332
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how did this cute succ mindbreak so many anons
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>Demon Mythic Path has an option that kills your black companions.

What did Owlcat mean by this?
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>>739824427
Common reaction to seeing your fellow Aruefag. It's like seeing skulls on your armor and wondering if you're one of the baddies.
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>>739824427
Its genuinely difficult to understand the implications of her existence within the universe of golarion if you are an outsider to the playerbase.
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>>739824427
By being cute. also post more Arue
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>>739824043
The deflection exists because you're too obvious, you've been doing it since before the game was out. The revirginized meme started because the mere mention of Arueshalae triggered a barrage of shitposting and muh used goods, you kept spamming imaginary cuckoldry with farmers and that prompted the reminder that there are two girls who cuck you in this game, but the succ ain't one of them.
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>>739824568
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>>739824616
>well we started acting retarded because of other retards, so there!
Riveting. Go ahead and keep telling mom that wendufags started it as both your streams of shit consume the threads.
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>>739823791
Whoever made this has the shittiest taste in women
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>>739814929

If you played the game you know her whole arc is about overcoming that nature. Sex is withheld until she is cured and is actually capable of making love rather than hoeing. That said i´d admit it´s a hard sale as she is the definition of used goods, Unless one is roleplaying the goodiest of the goodiest goody two shoes no straight man would fantasy with redeeming and properly romancing her.
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>>739824720
Notice how only one side triggers you
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>>739824427
>"Thank Desna that I get to eat loose succubus pussy that has centuries worth of leftover jizz from numerous entities! She said she was sorry for killing countless innocents and eating babies, so she's good now!"

And Aruefags wonder why they're so reviled.
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>>739824776
Guess that makes you gay than because she is the straightest option you can get compared to the others
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>>739824779
>ctrl+f wendu
>only 1 posts out of twenty saying anything positive about her
I could genuinely call this wendufag derangement syndrome.
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>>739818883
>>game tries to position Regill as bad
I cannot recall a single worthwhile conversation where Regill didn't have the last word.
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>owlcat romance
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>>739822028
Because Succ is the only one people wanted.
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>>739824849
Thats the point where the wholly new body matters. You should be complaining about continuity of consciousness not continuity of body. The choice to accept her redemption and the choice to sex her are two separate decisions. And you don't have to do either. you can let her fuck off or kill her or turn her back towards being a demon to say you were right all along.
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>>739825040
Better than Larian or obsi- wait they don't even romances.
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>>739825057
Galfrey really should have gotten one since she was trying to get an heir in the original AP. Still she has the best romance ending other than Arue
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its amazing how every rpg writer is so SQUEEMISH on writing a romance
its like everyone is afraid to admit how simple it all is and tries to specialsnowflake what people fucking like
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>defeat Baphomet
AIIIEEE LET'S MAKE A DEAL COMMANDER-SAMA YOU WANT ME TO SUCK YOUR DICK? I SUCK YOUR DICK AND EAT SHIT JUST LET ME LIVE
how is this guy the most powerful demon again.
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>>739824850

Such a conformist take to accept the slut. I get it though, she is the only one that´s not toxic or crazy as fuck...
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>>739825216
To be fair, a lot of it is because of autism, they're just not interested in it compared to combat/story etc etc

Bioware was the only major crpg dev to even give a fuck about romance
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>>739825379
Demons don't normally get that far even though there should be at least a few who snowballed their power beyond all reason.
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>>739825445
They are all sluts but only one was written that way for any plot reason. Not that any need a reason necessarily.
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>>739814929
True
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>>739825216
when was the last time there was a virgin romance in a western game?
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>>739825742
Cassia and Kibellah in Rogue Trader.
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>>739814929
>t. Regill
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Romances you can canonically get pregnant
>Aerie
>Viconia
>Kibellah
>Morrigan
Anybody else?
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>>739825216
>>739825742
Our entire culture, society and civilization are terminally poisoned by a hostile parasitizing entity, we'll never get anything that doesn't stick to the script of endless humilation rituals. Refer to >>739824058
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>>739825992
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>>739825117
Larian gave us Lae'zel kino though...
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>>739818883
I like the part where Regill tells the Knight Commander that he can become a Pathfinder Kingmaker and start a new nation with the amount of cocks Arueshalae has had.
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>>739826094
she also gets (you) pregnant if you're female KC
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>>739824427
I have no idea, I look at the three /v/ mindbreakers and they really have nothing to do with each other outside of making this shithole mad
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>>739814929
yeah but you know who else is evil? wenduag
let's talk about how evil wenduag is, god I hate wenduag
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>>739815148
She's literally been raping and being raped for thousands of years

>oh but I'm a born again Christian! I found God at last! I'm a virgin again none of that stuff I did before matters!
That's not how it works
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>>739826413
Why does it bother you so much?
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>>739826224
True. i want into the game wanting to romance Shadowheart and Lae'zel turned out to be better. but i wish there was a way to fuck one of the undead nun sisters
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correct me if i am wrong but wouldn't Heal and restoration greater more or less would regrow the hymen
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>>739824849
Who's your waifu?
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>>739826614
Why do you insist she's actually a pure virgin instead of literally a soul stealing demon slut
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>>739826614
>why do the raped bother you? it's not like it happened to you
as a good character you should be roleplaying with empathy
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>>739825379
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>>739826827
I don't? How can someone who had sex be a virgin? Can you answer the question now?
>>739826835
That post doesn't sound like he has empathy for her, he sounds bothered by it actually. Then again Arueshalae is a demon and the game doesn't make much of a big deal about her being raped, because she too raped people (and worse). The game doesn't try to give her a sympathetic backstory
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>>739822047
To be fair, hes part of the Order of the Godclaw follow five deities, two LG, two LN and asmodeus LE
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>>739826825
None. Only faggots care about vidya romance.
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>>739826413
>make joke statement
>autist takes it at face value
You are a buzzkill in any room you enter.
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>>739826959
>too afraid to say
Every time
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>>739826923
I see, none of the raped had portraits so they're less worth empathizing with than main character Abloobloogay
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>aruefags be like
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>>739827076
>>739827035
/crpgg/ found the thread I see, nevermind
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>>739826959
Sorry but if you don't have a waifu, you don't belong in 4chan and probably a gay isreali mossad agent sent her to sow discord or worse, a jeet
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>>739827116
>sound arguments found the thread, abandon ship!
it's never been more over for aruefags
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>>739826923
>many people die
>dead souls judged and turned into abyssal beings
>dead souls coalesce into demon
>demon lives as individual for millenia
>demon awakens to knew consciousness by divine intervention
>demon uses newfound empathy to change alignment
>now non-demon is further remortalized without reincarnation
The amount of fundamental changes to her existence is too strange to say she was simply brought back to life or something.
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Arue is a good moral being and she is a (re)virgin now thanks to Desna. there is no lie here
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>>739827207
She's an outsider turned mortal, of course she's not normal, but that has nothing to do with what I asked. What does it matter if she's a virgin or not
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>>739827297
Monad has to play second fiddle to the Gods that created the world, Desna cheats to bypass the rules
This shit is why we need the Aeon ascension ending
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>[WISDOM] (Succeeded): If Ember is old enough to go to way, she's old enough to consent.
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>>739814929
I can fix her.
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>>739827397
Was he in the Epstein island
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>>739826387
aren't you forgetting someone?
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>>739827352
I think its hard to define her as a virgin or not and I also think the most important part of her romance is how willing you are to go along with the pure chaotic good desnan azata freedom redemption plot.
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>>739815543
The sex drive will always triumph anon.
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>>739821579
>trust the dwarf hunter
>he approves
>fucking die because his stats are shit and the DC on the book checks don't work
>tell the dwart to fuck off and track the dragon yourself
>he gets pissy
>Pass on all stealth checks for him because his stealth is SHIT
>Dragon is butt up exposed ready to get fucked
>his "strategy" is walk up to the dragon and initiate combat
>not even a surprise round, he just shows up and yells at the dragon
jesus FUCK he's beyond shit
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Targona should have been romancable instead of Galfrey. i want a Succubus wife AND a angel wife
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>>739823336
Bro, people can still be used. It happens all the time and the fat that you associate being good with denying a terms truth is ridiculous.

People are used every day, taken advantage of oft times with their own consent (thoughbeit a consent gained perhaps under duress), and yes it sucks and in a just world it would not be so.

Sadly Justice and Truth are seen as mutable instead of objective. And while Justice itself as a concept can be difficult to define, Truth is not. Justice and the idea of it must by its nature be defined by Truth, an objective presentation of factual information. Since our Justice system has been raped by those with the means to fight Truth via money and connections I can see your confusion regarding Paladin's and their considerations.
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>>739827397
>[Good]: I don't like you, die!
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>>739827485
Your cuckoldry headcanon? Valerie's is he bad ending of her questline that specifically requires to not be in a romance, Arueshalae is just fanfiction, and Yrliet has nothing of the sort
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>>739827892
Could have been this game's threesome ending.
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>>739815795
You can also undo the brainwashing with a single sentence, and then she's an unrepentant demon again. She's more like a doll with a personality switch than a person struggling one way or the other.
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>>739827949
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>>739828063
Disingenuous post.
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>>739824427
she unironically invaded one of my dreams and is the only vidya character to give me a wet dream
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>>739827002
>>739827128
>"You're a heckin' Jewish jeet if you play the game about killing demons for the demon killing."

You faggots self-insert yourselves every time there's a character creator, don't you?
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>>739828063
that sentence is also right after confronting dimalchio who genuinely did nothing wrong
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>what happens in-game
Arueshalae kills Dimalchio, this makes her already low self-esteem hit rock bottom, and then the person she trusts the most outright tells her that she'll never succeed, kicking her while she's down. She leaves, not sure what to do, and ultimately ends up giving up and falling during a six months timeskip
>what anon says happens
BRO IT WAS LIKE A SINGLE DIALOGUE OPTION BRO WHERE IS MY OBLIGATORY GOOD BOY POINT COUNTER SYSTEM I LOVE THOSE
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>>739828564
Arueshalae killed Dimalchio because she was too WEAK to offer him the same chance that she was
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>>739828449
cast death ward with the duration upgrade retard
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>>739828623
Not falling for your goalpost moving, fact is there is a reason, and a good one. You're just too autistic and disingenuous so you feel the need to dismiss everything with "but muh single sentence"
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>>739828624
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>>739824978
Part of that is just no one really bothering to talk back to him, or him being the one to poke holes in their statements first
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>>739825742
Galfrey is literally in the same game as the OP
And the game afterwards you have >>739825806
You people are fucking retarded
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>>739814929
>>739827076
Never forget that there's always a simp out there, willing to marry depraved moralless women if they are pretty enough. It's why all these onlyfans and porn stars get married, then divorced soon after.
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>>739827923
For someone who is all about truth you are incredibly dishonest. My post was obviously referring to the context and tone of the post I replied to, which is not how a good paladin would act or thing. There the term is used not to discuss truth, but to diminish, shame and dehumanize.
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>>739826371
Don't you dare lie to me anon.
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>>739829129
I really like daeran
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>>739829339
Arue is not moralless, not anymore.
This is not a "ready to settle down" situation, she is GENUINELY repenting for her crimes, risking her life to do so, in fact.
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>>739829339
>depraved moralless women
Arue isn't that though
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>>739826821
And enlarge person would make them have a giant size dong, yes
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>>739829380
Daeran is very based. Possibly as based as regill.
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The virgin corrupter FEARS the chad purifier.
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>>739829515
arue's situation is also corruption though, she didn't have any baseline good to purify into
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>>739829370
It's his tranny headcanon because succubi can turn into men, even though Arue stops being a succubus and she loses her powers. He made it up because you can have kids with her even when playing as a woman, even though the game uses ambigious wording specifically for this purpose, he assumes that she grows a cock for his tranny fantasies instead of the logical conclusion any normal person would make that is adoption
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What's even a good build for Arue? I wish she was some variety of a bard.
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>>739829605
cope schizo
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>>739829670
Go larp as Arue on WoW, tranny
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>>739820161
I'd give her thousands.
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>>739829605
>the logical conclusion is a cuck fantasy
kek, the competition between cuckolds and futafags is tight
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>>739814929
>what if we brainwash a succubus
>she's basically a coy virgin now
who would actually go for this
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>>739829635
Just go full skald if you recruit her early.
Or using a mod tro retrain fully.

Seelah is also good for Skald Duty
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>>739829751
>adopting kids is cuckoldry
You're mentally ill
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>>739829754
>11 levels of skald
u wot m8
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>>739827035
What a stupid infograph, it doesn't make any distinction regarding the scope of Justice or Mercy. One person may consider torture and humiliation of a wrongdoer before a grisly death to be Justice, another may consider letting a wrongdoer live and go free no matter how many he's harmed to be Mercy. Justice can be as simple as ensuring a trial by a jury of one's peers, Mercy can be as simple as applying ethics to keep punishment proportionate in the pursuit of Justice.

Literally autistic black and white thinking on display in this.
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>>739829804
You only need a haste bot and ragesong bonuses up to pouncing.
I'd rather turn seelah or Daeran into one, but if you did not, it is an option
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>>739828624
>use protection with Arueshalae
What are you, gay?
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>>739829795
Via the etymology of the term, raising another's child is inherently more cuckpilled than having someone bang your SO
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>>739829856
>black and white thinking
thats the point of the graph
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>>739829751
>cuckolds and futafags
They're one and the same, just another shitposting tactic, also >>739829795
faggots and dykes adopting is literally what happens irl, not every adoption has to be a "my wife's son" situation
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>>739829605
There has to be some worthless magic in this setting to temporarily grow a cock like fucking artoria from fate.
Anevia is already a permanent troon. Permanent effect spells typically are upgrades of temporary effect spells, and spells are capable of being turned into scrolls and potions already.
Like its just straight up believable for these gay ass ttrpg settings to have a temporary lesbian futa potion for the purpose of procreation.
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>>739829605
For high level characters in Pathfinder, two lesbians impregnating each other is trivial, there's no need for the femKC and Arue to adopt unless they want to.
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>>739829917
It's a "my wife's son" for both of them, literally double the cuck energy
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>>739829949
>>739829972
As long as you need to rely on this cope then my job is done, Arue can't grow a cock normally, that's all
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>>739829364
I think you're throwing around the label of dishonest a little to easily as perhaps some of the context of your post was lost in the translation of thought to language to words on the screen and then my own understanding of what you wrote.

>>A paladin, for starters, sees people as people and not as objects, meaning "used" is not a term he would even consider
In response to
>>Right, because a paladin of all people would want to marry one of the most used hags of the multiverse.

What he said was not in any way shape or form incorrect bar his assumption of what a paladin wants. You inserted your own interpretation of what a paladin wants in place of that person's statement and further decided that the term used was inconceivable to consider that a paladin might use.

Now perhaps your ideation of a paladin would not use such a term, but that does not make the term used in the statement you were responding to not correct. They were in fact used, or rather even in some circumstances, used themselves or simply even just decided to take what they wanted without regard for their own respect or chastity.

Now we can go round and round about societal norms regarding female promiscuity ( or make for that matter), however the truth of the matter is that the hags in question are indeed used and were it not for the player character who knows where their stories end up.

Someone being diminished, shamed or dehumanized by the term is your own connotations to that and since you have refused to ask yourself why you feel such a way about the language being used, I feel as if you see it as a personal attack rather than objective data. Hence your immediate resort to assuming my dishonesty (and thus my dishonor and using that as an attempt to discredit the deliverer instead of the messenger.

You associate used with dehumanization, shame and diminishment. Which in many cases is true. We as a society, in order to function, use shame as a tool to discourage action.
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>>739830084
Slop.
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>>739829891
No, the point of the graph is a strict argument against mercy as a concept by reducing moral complexity to black and white thinking in place of real argumentation, all to appear as a based strongman for it. It has to do this because you cannot make an argument based in logos, pathos or ethos for the disownment of crucial elements of the human psyche.
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>>739830051
Let's say you find a girl who is kind of dumb, and she has just been raped by a random immigrant.

>A paladin would not marry this STUPID RAPEMEAT
>I don't think a paladin would call her that, for starters
>hurr durr she's objectively a stupid rapemeat, it's the objective truth, why are you saying that it's just the truth

Do you see why you are being dishonest now?
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>>739830154
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>>739829869
NTA but I play on unfair, so Seelah is forced to be a mounted tank for clearing shield maze early on. As for Daeran, two wasted feat is fucking ass. There's nothing wrong with hiring mercs.
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>>739830051
And further the fact that you lack any shame whatsoever in commiting acts for the pure feeling of hedonism or worse in the cases of the "hags" in question to get something they want from someone else without any love of care involved for the individual they are using themselves and their body to take something from and you don't find that act worthy of shame of diminishment?

I must question your definition of good, let alone lawful. But alas we live in the day and age where paladins can be of any alignment so long as it "Feels" good as opposed to using data and history to see if that is in fact actually good for those who have to live among them.

There are plenty of societies where such actions as being a promiscuous hag is considered good and righteous. I think, fundemntally that is where we disagree and you see me as some sort of monster for beliving that using your body to get what you want, be it material gain or pleasure, is in my eyes dishonest and disgusting as it plays with the emotions and morals of the individual being played.
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Where's the Cam-Cam poster? Haven't seen him in a while.
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>>739829635
10 Espionage expert
7 bard
3 vivisectionist
It's quite thematic and also unfair viable. You get inspire courage and instant enemy for teamwide buffs, and you get a 30 minute elixir and a self-cast polymorph effect for master shapeshifter. You also get some utility like haste, unbreakable heart, and glitterdust, but you'll realistically use these quite rarely.
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>>739830345
/v/ is an aruefag hugbox, all the other schizos are on /vg/
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>>739830308
>And further the fact that you lack any shame whatsoever
Not arue, moving the goalpost completely
> is in my eyes dishonest and disgusting
Agreed, you only think you disagree with me because you've been dishonestly arguing strawmen

If you find a repentant person, a paladin does not salt the wound or drive the knife in, that's what a sadist does, not a good paladin.
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>>739830293
Oh sure, Mercs are the best natural solution.
I just like to spice companion approaches after the first couple runs over the years.

Greybor has become every martial multiclass under the sun.
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>>739830251
Sex
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>>739830417
>/v/ is an aruefag hugbox
How can you read this thread and genuinely think this?
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>>739830345
I killed him for being embarrassing to other camfags like myself
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>>739830501
this is as good as it gets, friend
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>aru this
>aru that
Where's the love for Nurah?
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>>739830501
For him if the thread has one (1) person that likes Arueshalae then it's already a hugbox, the entire thing needs to be 500 posts of nonstop shitposting about her
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>>739830240
Neither of those aforementioned "hags" were raped by random immigrants though.

This isn't a how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast question. I would say that said woman is a victim, a victim of a rapist, of a society that allows such a dangerous immigrant to live freely among them, and her own poor decision making skills. Of course one -wants- to be able to wander around alone at all hours of the day. But that is not the world we live in today, if it ever was.

Do I blame her? Well there are a huge number of other factors there, or maybe not so many ad I'm just not wanting to delve into that at the moment. However given the information provided no, I don't blame her. She is a victim of her own making perhaps? Maybe. Maybe not. Theres not enough data to determine that.

The aforementioned "hags" may have been victims at some point, but they certainly have decided to victimize others in a manner which garners them little sympathy in my eyes. To the point where it takes a being of godlike power to redeem one of them.
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>>739830580
Why the hell would I be into a halfling
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>>739830501
/v/ may be dire but it has a wider pool of people so you can trick the ones who haven't played the game
the /vg/ hobbyists have more autistic focus, aruebros can't survive the scrutiny
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>>739830580
Nurah is for correction
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>>739830398
damn this sounds like a mean build
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>Where's the Cam-Cam poster?
Which one? There is several of us.
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>>739830661
>halfing
yeah IMAGINE
>>739830735
I will forever seethe at Owlkek for not making Nurah a playable companion and giving her a romance route
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>>739830645
>Neither of those aforementioned "hags"
But you didn't have breakfast today! For fucks sake
It's an hypothethical, to show you that the objective truth can be said and used in different ways, and why your first reply to me was immediately missing the point

A paladin is perfectly aware Arue used to be immoral, but seeing her repentance will either give her a quick death or help her redeem herself, but he would not make fun of her for her attempted repeantance by using "truth" to insult her (again, truth can be used to insult, as I have proven here >>739830240 )

Rubbing the salt in the wound for no reason is not good, lawful or anything, it's just base sadism, it's for people like Regill, lawful evil. People who think like that about Arue cannot be lawful good, lawful neutral at best, as they put vengeance (derision and insults) above justice (a quick death) or mercy (a chance at redemption)
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>>739829462
Cheval Grand is so cute. next playthrough i am gonna make a chevalier and name the horse Cheval
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>>739830436
>>And further the fact that you lack any shame whatsoever

>>in commiting acts for the pure feeling of hedonism or worse in the cases of the "hags" in question to get something they want from someone else without any love of care involved for the individual they are using themselves and their body to take something from and you don't find that act worthy of shame of diminishment?

And here you were the one talking about context. The whole quote justifies my understanding of your lack of association of shame with at the very least acts of pure hedonism, if not deriving gain from being a whore (and yes that is what a whore is, someone who sells their body sexually for some sort of material gain.) on a level that is meatphysically tied to corrupting others to feed their soul addiction. I find that shameful and worthy of the definition of Using someone else.

They are in fact used themselves by greater individuals in power than themselves to say they were not used also removes any state of victimhood. They were in fact used anon, in both contexts that had been presented.
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>play wotr
>make a blue hair female desnan chaotic good azata tiefling
>see arue
>play rogue trader
>make a noble space born white haired artist
>see cassia
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>>739830990
>make a blue hair
tumblr...
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>>739830436
As for the finding of a repentant person I agree with you there. You do not salt the wound or drive the knife in. However I do not think anyone ought to deny the fact that punishment might be necessary for habitual reoffenders as Justice must still be done for those who have been at the mercy of said offense.
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>>739830931
Saved
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Why are you guys talking to a ai pretending to be a human. this shit is so gay
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>>739829716
projecting coping schizo
go back to your maze
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>>739831069
>habitual reoffenders as Justice must still be done for those who have been at the mercy of said offense
What punishment do we give Regill?
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>>739830982
>your lack of association of shame with at the very least acts of pure hedonism
I don't, people who are actively engaging in those acts should be shamed
But people who are trying to redeem themselves should not. I'm not saying they should be rewarded, but intetionally rubbing salt in the wound is, to be frank, in very bad taste. If your brother is a recovering drug addict of 5 years you wouldn't call him "worthless druggie" at the family dinner, you would only do that if he was ACTIVELY and shamelessly drugging himself.

It's the difference between justice and vengeance.
In the second case you are not doing society any good, in fact you are doing harm (people will not see any point in changing their ways) just to satisfy your urge to feel superior to someone else.
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>>739831128
Thats a tougher question that would require more thought and discussion on my part that i don't have time for at this very moment.

Should he punished though? I think the short answer is: possibly.
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>>739829462
Than why even obsess about Virginity? you can play a high lvl healer like 6000 gold and become a literal born again virgin thanks to holy divine magic. i feel like Nobles would be even more degenerate than they were in rl.
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>>739831294
It makes them feel insecure that he'll fall short of expectations (even though the commander is a sex god)
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>>739831231
I wouldn't call him worthless at all. Worthless things don't cost anyone anything, or at least thats the implication in my understanding. The very fact that they are able to cause pain and discord with their addiction makes them worth something at least in terms of what it will take to save them from themselves (if at all possible) or what it will cost to let their addiction meet its likely end.

As a family member thats never an easy decision if you truly love them and yourself as a human being. As you said if they are truly repentant and doing their best to keep their head above water than rubbing salt in that wound likely would not help them especially given the psychological factors of addiction.

However I don't think they deserve any kind of help. It is love that does away with such a notion of deserving and makes that a non factor in your desire to help them regardless of what they actually deserve.

More information is certainly necessary as I have known many drug addicts, some in my family. Including myself if I'm honest. My own experience biases me against calling them worthless but looking at it from an outsiders perspective the fact that he is your brother ought matter but if said brother only ever shows up at family functions sober enough to try and wheedle some money out of sympathetic family members some salt might be just what they need.
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>>739827892
She should have tried to kill you on the Swarm path. I would have enjoyed devouring the angel justice league in one go. It would have also made the ambush a fairer fight.
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>>739831294
Because breaking your hymen over and over again is just pain for the sake of purity, and no one has 6000 gold lying around every time they want a quick fuck. Plus, are you going to marry a onlyfans whore because she went through surgery for you to restore her hymen?
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>>739830462
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>>739829605
nta but how else would you imagine a female would make kids? osmosis?
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>>739831231
Regardless of our lack of consensus, it has still ben enjoyable engaging in discourse and conversation with you. I must now depart and return to my own planet. Good day, fellow Earther.
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>>739831757
did you read the post?
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>>739830970
you're gonna name her "horse"?
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>>739831294
It's enragement engagement for (You)s, let's not pretend there's any other reason for doing this shit over and over again for years.
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>>739831789
you gonna make some coherent statement? or just keep being retarded?
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>>739832018
>logical conclusion any normal person would make that is adoption
there I copy pasted it for you
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>>739831678
No, not really but i find it interesting that with healing magic the concept of virginity stop existing in a time when wars and bloody feuds were fought over who gets to pop the princess cherry
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>>739831294
being a virgin isn't about the hymen
>>739832057
>kids with a shapeshifting fantasy sex demon?
>that must be adoption
more than a little bit of a stretch.
afaict, all other endings where you have kids are from coitus, why wouldn't this one be too?
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>>739832445
>in a time when wars and bloody feuds were fought over who gets to pop the princess cherry
This never happened
The pussy was just used as a noble excuse to wage a war of interest

For example, the myth of Troy was made to give a noble justification to a war which was likely fought over the control of the bosphorus strait and its trade routes.
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>>739831716
SLOP.
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>>739830935
Im surprised we dont GET a bard rep (other then corrupted queen galfrey but that's a weird and sorry excuse)
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No hymen no diamond.
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>>739831716
It's good slop
Make more
Slop that copies the style of a specific artist is most of the times much better than slop who just goes generic
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>>739814929
>romance
>in a VIDEO GAME

Kill all romancefags. Behead all romancefags. Slice a romancefag in half with a +99 katana. Total romancefag death.

Mind you, I don't mind romance in game between the NON-PLAYER CHARACTERS. Because then the writers can actually properly work on it. I hate when they try to involve the player character in that shit.

I am here to shoot shit, loot shit and enjoy the writing that DOESN'T involve my featureless XP/loot-gathering murderhobo avatar niggers. So stop try to "pander" to me with some romanceshit you romancefags.

Which once again reminds me:

Kill all romancefags. Behead all romancefags. Slice a romancefag in half with a +99 katana. Total romancefag death.
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>>739827892
we're not allowed to have fun things unless its an expensive japan only game made by underground autist who really really do not want to sell on western platforms
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>>739832631
>>kids with a shapeshifting fantasy sex demon?
Holy shit you really did not read the post, Arue isn't a demon nor can she shapehift, not anymore
>all other endings where you have kids are from coitus
The only ending that explicitly says that is Kibellah's from Rogue Trader which is also male exclusive and they specifically say "firstborn" as in born from a womb, a woman, Kibellah in this case. Now I wish they would have done that in this game if only just to spite troons like you, but they didn't unfortunately and the wording is kept ambiguous so both genders can have a happy family. The banter she has with Nenio discussing the race of your kids is male only though, make of that what you will
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>>739832908
>Mind you, I don't mind romance in game between the NON-PLAYER CHARACTERS
This is the ultimate cuck post
You don't want to be able to fuck anyone, what you want is to see other people fuck?
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>>739832859
>real art
Based.
>>739832868
When you beg for more slop you sound like a pig eating out of it's trough.
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>>739832963
...No he just wants to see romance between non player characters, this is like calling somebody a cuck for reading a romantic story
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>>739833103
>No he just wants to see romance between non player characters
... with the specific request of not being allowed to romance anyone
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>>739832868
>>739833015
Yeah Darkergrey draws her so it's easier to make sloppa with his style
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>>739833235
For me its that particular camcam sloppa with her ass out next to a black dick
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>>739833174
...because Balanceman was right, romance is poison to RPGs.
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>>739832963
>You don't want to be able to fuck anyone, what you want is to see other people fuck?
Because I am not fucking anyone and neither are you you nigger. It's text prompt inside a fucking video game with as much thought put into it as your retarded post.

At least if you are playing Pen&Paper/Tabletop your GM can do some wacky shit (roll for STDs lmao) or something more involved and the rest of the players on the table can have fun with your retardation. Any romance that involves a player who is by defintion a proxy for potentially 8 fucking billion of different niggerfaggots cannot be taken seriously and it's retarded to even try. I feel like I am taking crazy-pills for even having to explain something as obvious as this to you or anyone.

Fucking hell.
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>>739833235
>>739833330
disgusting
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>>739833330
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>>739833502
Just enjoy the slop anon
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>>739833494
>It's text prompt inside a fucking video game
Some of us can imagine rotating apples
>At least if you are playing Pen&Paper/Tabletop
How the fuck can you even come to think that romance in ttrpgs is better when you are forcing other people to endure your retardation

The good thing about single player games is that they can sell you a cringe fantasy without anyone else being forcefully dragged into your cringe fantasy.
If you don't like it don't romance anyone, it's like 5 minutes of content, you are not losing out on anything
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>>739827892
Download the relation and romance mod and you can fuck both of them without Arue or Targona chimping out.
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>>739833330
The Camellia community everyone.
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>>739833790
How's the writing quality first? Be honest.
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>>739833648
Never. I'd rather commission human artists to draw my degenerate fetishes. AI can't compete.
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>>739833810
Fuck you, 2 years ago I made exclusively monogamous camsloppa
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japanese games with succubus companions?
i can't think of any besides disgaea, and there they're mostly just generic units
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>>739832908
t.
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>>739814929
>succubi are pure
yes
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Hey the dick is whatever okay, I just like her ass
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>>739833816
Servicable to bad. Targona is okay but Tarendelev sounds like a schizo adventure
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>>739834196
>tigh high boots
>well shaped ass
>thong
A deadly combination for muh dick
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>>739833854
I can't believe I actually agree with Swarmfag, FUCK.
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>>>739834196
Camellia may be a psycho slut but she must be a great fuck. also that one darkergrey animation where the commander porks her is great
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>>739833790
It has no reactivity unless you're a cuck and corrupt Arue and Targona both, so they both engage in orgies fucking other demons besides you
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I like both wendu and arue but I do think wenduag has a bit more interesting stuff going on and better moments. I wound up really liking the backstabbing back and forth. It's not to the point where I'd say they wasted arue's concept but they played it very safe with her
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>>739820161
Sex with mama
Babymaking sex even
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Real talk, is there an unfair viable build for tank Camellia or is protective luck/fortune too important to drop her out of support?
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>>739834552
Explains the most neek audiences from both franchises, its all coming together
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>>739834528
You can't corrupt Targona, you either heal her or kill her as Demon
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>>739823791
I like how consistently shit /v/ is with the 2nd place being always better.
These were more accurate before 2020.
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Whats a kino azata melee?
I'm willing to gestalt
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>>739834816
Targona literally has different endings for every mythic path, she's basically a flesh golem you can mold to be whatever you want
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>>739834528
Why isn't Demon Arue romance a thing? i know you can get a harem but having a queen succubus sounds cool
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>>739833790
I haven't tried it yet but the fact it has Minhago content is a great sell to me
Always wanted to force that bitch to be my unwilling concubine
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>>739833648
>>739833854
AI is useful for placeholder and text smut. image generating is just too generic. you saw one AI arue you've seen them all
now different artists make different swarm artworks, and that's great. But that doesn't mean that I can't use AI to translate Arue to my fetishes on a whim.
case in point: heavy interactions in art. swarmfag made a bunch of artists do a LOT of sex artwork and each piece shows a bunch of scenes that the AI simply cannot compete with. the good bits of AI is still pin ups and generic posing.
doubt me? try to gen Arue wingholding someone, pinning them with her wings, brushing her horn on someone's forehead, or folding her wings on her shoulders like a cloak why the fuck do wingtards almost never do that are they even aware that the default wing prop pose is basically a bird T pose and that's tiring to the limbs
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>>739835167
You can fuck her but it can hardly be called a "romance", if you mindbreak her she stops being capable of love
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>>739834552
>mask
>exposed wings
>exposed horns
>exposed tail
???
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>>739835167
Because it's utterly retarded and completely goes against the entire point of her storyline, you jinxed it, now all you get is another succubus who just as sex with you and doesn't care about you, who may even betray you in one ending
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>>739835320
>try to gen Arue wingholding someone, pinning them with her wings, brushing her horn on someone's forehead, or folding her wings on her shoulders like a cloak
I'm sure there's someone who can do that, not me though
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>>739835563
She seems pretty happy being off Desna's brainwashing. God of fucking freedom my ass. This is who Arueshalae is. But I see why people prefer the roofied fantasy of her.
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>>739836034
I fail to see what your bait has to do with what I said
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>>739835715
>smooth skin arue
where are her succ tattoos
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>>739836034
You literally have to enter her brain and burn a part of her psyche, her hope dreams, to get this
This is literally arue after you lobotomize her, hardly her "true self"
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>>739836098
I said that I do fathom why people prefer the roofied sex doll with imposed mentality instead of who she really is.
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>>739836151
Forget AI, almost nobody draws them
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>>739836268
You burn it either way.
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>>739836449
Wrong speedreader, that's her actual dream, and you don't burn it when pursuing her good ending, the rest are just copies she basically stole
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>>739836268
Damn, I wonder how those "dreams" and "hopes" got there in the first place. Were the pics related not the hopes and dreams of Arueshalae before she was roofied by Desna somehow? Ah, I guess they were "bad," so they don't count. Now being a cock sleeve of MC, that's fire.
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>>739836535
>Now being a cock sleeve of MC
Kek the troon reveals what truly upsets him, as always
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>>739836151
>>739836434
Here, this one has her tattoos.
https://files.catbox.moe/w1zd11.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/jivhjz.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/s01f6j.jpg
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>>739836646
>Bug shit
Yeah thanks but no thanks Swarmfag
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>>739836034
>calls you out for being a fucking lunatic
>licks her lips hungrily
>possibly gives you the noisiest sloppy kiss ever
>100% knows that Areelu and co as well as your team are watching her do this
dick no

despite evil arue's intro event is basically her tiring out like 3 balors and a dozen of other demons and ordering for more while spreading her legs it feels like evil arue's sex power level is less than good arue's
come on fucking fodder is a big red herring
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>>739836606
I guess you've run out of arguments, even though this was just my summarization of what her roofied dream basically comes down to. But sure, I am a tranny for pointing out this bizarre hypocrisy. Whatever rows your waifus boat.
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>>739836535
>Damn, I wonder how those "dreams" and "hopes" got there in the first place
It's explained by Arue:
Demons are made of mortal souls of sinners, but these sinners used to be mortals, so they are capable of hopes and dreams. Demonization is a long process that locks away those feelings behind a locked door.
What Desna did as punishment was simply unlock that door: Arue was flooded with her inner feelings and memories of past lives and was immediately horrified at what she had become.

Arue literally explains this to you. To return her to demon form you take these feelings of hope and burn them in her subconscious, reverting her to her lobotomized state.
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>>739836646
>emberpedoshit
Yeah thanks but not thanks Swarmfag
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>>739836785
The cock sleeve is her evil version, except that it's a cock sleeve multiple people use. It bothers you that the cute succ is romanceable, you're too obvious
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>>739836535
>Now being a cock sleeve of MC
Is what she deserves. Evil exists to be Good's cocksleeve.
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>>739836646
goddamn it swarmfag you're lucky I enjoy geigeresque artstyle and erotic horror to like this pic. porn aside the perspective and wing use is very neat.
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>>739836787
How the fuck do you judge that what those corrupted souls created is not its own being? There was no pre-demon Arueshalae. She was a creation from those souls. It's like asking to give back agency to molecules that you are comprised of.
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>>literally a background character in a dance of masks just like Trever
Man I'm glad that Evilruekeks remain keked
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>>739836646
Based swarmfag.
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>>739836927
Yeah, but at least it's an authentic cock sleeve, not roofied by a God, which is the part that bothers me. Nobody stops you from enjoying your drooling flashlight.
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>>739837154
The part that bothers you is the cute demon girl you can romance
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>>739837154
>he wouldn't accept a cock sleeve roofied by a god
you will never make it
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>>739837007
>How the fuck do you judge that what those corrupted souls created is not its own being?
Because simply unlocking something that was ALREADY THERE changes them.
What you are arguing is that installing a chip in someone's brain that shuts off their empathy and makes them a psycho creates a new being, so you should not be allowed to turn that chip off

Parts of arue's soul were literally being restrained by the abyss to keep her a succubus, ACTUAL mind control.
All demons are like this, they were sinners in life and this is their punishment, for their soul to scream as their body acts on its own. It's why getting turned into a gigachad balor is NOT a reward. The sinners are not being rewarded with demonization, they are being punished to an eternity of lobotomy.

Desna gave her a qucik punishment but also mercy, it broke the lobotomy and gave Arue a chance to abandon sin and embrace goodness.
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>>739837007
Arue isn't an amalgam of souls. this isn't bleach. demons are people who get dumped into the abyss as worms and needs to level up by killing each other like in spore.
eaten souls get snuffed out I fucking wish Arue soul vored them and it added up to her soul, would make redeemed arue really fucking funny if the composite souls inside her got to watch her become good
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>>739837240
>Arue isn't an amalgam of souls. this isn't bleach
Yes she is, most demons are, they do this by doing what you say, but they're made of multiple souls
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>>739835171
I tried to fix her twice and both times I failed, well in one of them she sort of gets fixed but it's thanks to a bunch of soldiers, you don't do the work directly. Probably because I didn't play GD, which I have no intention of doing
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>>739837240
>Arue isn't an amalgam of souls
I'm pretty sure she is, souls never get snuffed out, in pathfinder they go trough a cycle.
I think the souls merge when they devour each other
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>>739837007
how would you feel if i showed you your previous lives and told you to stop being a nigger with no reading comprehension
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>>739834924
We love Lae'zel here
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>>739833330
>spoiler
Based
The contrast is great and so is the ass
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>>739837531
>how would you feel if i showed you your previous lives
not him but I wouldn't give a fuck, unless one of them was a gigachad millionaire that would suck because I failed miserably
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>>739836930
I'm not sure this is what Apsu meant when he charged Good dragons with helping the mortal races.
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>>739837218
>but also mercy, it broke the lobotomy
No, it created a lobotomy. She was her own being. You'd have an argument if Evil Arueshalae were an automaton with no personality, a beast of instinct. She is clearly not. The roofied version of her is a clear outlier. Trying to say that demons don't have rights to agency because they are comprised of sinners is idiotic. So every being in PF that is comprised of other beings in a cycle has no right to exist because it was something previously?
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>>739837314
>>739837512
if she is then that house dreamscape event shows that the cuckholdry faggots screaming about arue cheating on the player is the least of her concerns
she is LITERALLY playing dollhouse and having a happy ending while thousands of ruined people look through the windows and see her being happy and having a happy family.
and she gets to be a mortal again too, which means that when she dies she will get judged as if all other souls didn't exist and those get carried on to whatever saccarine heaven desna wants her to be in.
pretty fucking rude of a fate anyway to get majin buu'd and forgotten forever.
daemons snuff out souls and they're a major threat because of that
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>>739836151
I removed them because she looks good without it.
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>>739837846
>she is LITERALLY playing dollhouse and having a happy ending while thousands of ruined people look through the windows and see her being happy and having a happy family.
I remember you trying to push this fetish, once again, that's not how it works. The souls are not sentient, this is like saying that you have people inside you because your atoms used to belong to some other random dead person
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>>739837936
>The souls are not sentient
that resolves things then. I'll keep that in mind.
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>>739837796
>No, it created a lobotomy
No, anon. Breaking mind control is not the same as mind controlling
>She was her own being
No, she was being mind controlled
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Reminder that Arue is the only demon in the game that actually wants to redeem herself for being evil, every other demon changes because of appeals to their freedom and how garbage their life is (including Nocticula).
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>>739815932
Aruefags have never refuted this
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>>739832790
Just cause you like rolling around in your own dog's shit don't mean the rest of us do too
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>>739837846
She was already punished, living as a demon for centuries is punishment
>but she hurts people while she is a demon too!
Then blame Pharasma and her soul mafia for creating the most dogshit retarded system imaginable, not Arue who was shoved into said system.
>>739838154
There is nothing to refute, that's her character, she is not free of sin, she is repentant of sin.
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>>739838154
I have, won't stop you from spamming it though, but here it is again: nobody cares. Half the party supports her, the other half doesn't care, it's ultimately both angry midgets (quite a coincidence) that seethe at her for it, and one of them is projecting because he can't be bothered to be a proper father
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>>739838096
>Breaking mind control
Mind control of what? The creature that is Arueshalae in her default state is a demon. Those souls wouldn't have a physical form if she wasn't one, would they? There would be no Arueshalae to begin with. What would those souls take the form of?
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Demons this, Devil that. Where the Deamon women at?
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>>739815932
She may be a slut, but Regill is a manlet.
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hold the fuck up if souls are not sentient then why is soul torture a thing and why is soul tampering seen as an evil thing in pathfinder? Besides the whole lawtism behind souls as resources in the cosmos that is.
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>>739838243
>she makes my peenus weenus hard so i don't care what evil shit she has done
typical simp behavior
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>>739838336
Reading is too hard while you're simping for your favorite midget, isn't it? Read his dialogue, what he says. He wants to remind everyone of what she is, the answer is that nobody cares, everyone knows already
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>>739838250
>Mind control of what?
Again, her subconscious was literally locked away, its a kin to a chip that disables part of your brain. You are not a new person, you are being mind controlled
>What would those souls take the form of?
It depends, without the evil influence of the abyss the souls can become a number of other things
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>>739838336
What about you? Do you care about the evil shit Regill has done?
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>>739838321
>hold the fuck up if souls are not sentient
This point is actually never clarified, I don't know where anon is taking this from
Pathfinder souls can appear in front of pharasma and speak their case, so I think they are pretty sentient
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>>739838313
Where armpit and hip cleavage.
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The succ was evil in life or her soul would never have gone to the abyss in the first place
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>>739838321
Because they are retard, they're sentient at first, then they lose their sentience once they become outsiders or part of their plane's environment. All outsiders are made of souls, those soulds are not "alive" anymore, they're basically just flesh but for the outsiders
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>>739838569
Yes
That is why even after her consciousness being unlocked by Desna, she only becomes neutral out of regret but has still to face her past to become good.

We know this already, nobody is claiming Arue used to be a saint at any point in her life
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>>739838284
how much are you into a bpd girls who wants to destroy you
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>>739838569
Being evil doesn't always mean being a cartoon villain that was evil just because, according to her a lot of the souls used to create her suffered a lot to end up becoming the kind of person that would end up in the Abyss
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>>739838705
She was always an evil piece of shit. Getting her mind steamrolled by a goddess is not a legitimate change of heart. She's just a puppet now.
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>>739838536
The armpit cleavage is right there, look closely
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>>739838429
>her subconscious was literally locked away
That's the swarm of vestigial souls. Not the actual personality.
>You are not a new person
But she is. There was no singular being Arueshalae before she was born as a demon. You said it yourself; she is comprised of the souls. They are her structure in the same way that molecules are your structure. You want to let go of your molecules. too in this case? Maybe they were a meteorite before, come on, break the mind control.
>It depends
But you'd agree that they wouldn't create Arueshalae, would you? They wouldn't create the creature that would cross Desna who's roofied her into a different personality?
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We went through all the shitposting topics of Anti-Arue in this thread, impressive
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Okay but what Demon are you going to become anons.
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/demon/
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>>739838843
>She was always an evil piece of shit
That's why it's a redemption anon
I literally just addressed this. If she was not a sinner in life there would be no need to go trough the trial and tribulations of redemption. A good person doesn't need to be redeemed.

>Getting her mind steamrolled by a goddess is not a legitimate change of heart
This has already been addressed, the sinners who formed her were sinners, but were capable of guilt to enough of a degree to change her heart when let free of abyssal influence.

I genuinely do not see what you are struggling to understand.
You keep repeating "BUT SHE'S EVIL", as if that's not the ENTIRE point of a redemption
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i can only imagine how sweaty and fat the average aruefag is
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>>739838902
>But you'd agree that they wouldn't create Arueshalae, would you?
You might as well argue that your parents roofied you because if you grew up an orphan you would have a different personality
It's a fundamentally retarded argument: yes, our past shapes who we are. No, this doesn't mean you cannot turn off the mind control chip.
>Not the actual personality.
Her actual personality is what she shows when the chip preventing her from having a personality is disabled: Arue as you meet her in game is true arue.
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>come for succubus fetish thread
>get planar lore dump thread
based
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>>739839008
Hopefully one day you will move on from the cute succ anon, she has you worse than Dimalchio
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>>739830398
How does this build work? Miss every single shot until you reach 7 in bard so she can finally contribute in combat?
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>>739838493
>This point is actually never clarified
It literally is. Each soul has a different afterlife, good souls get to rest before fading out, evil souls get tortured, either way the end result is always the same. They become outsiders or they fuse with the environment, and that's when they truly cease existence, and therefore, their sentience (unless you're in Abaddon, in that case a daemon will probably just eat you and that's that)
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>>739829635
The install the respec mod and make good use of that base 21 CHA build
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>>739830398
Nigga just go full 20 espionage expert. especially now that there is a mythic ranger bond that can give full bonus as a swift action to everyone so she becomes the best buffer and trash mob destroyer in the game
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>>739839116
>our past
This has nothing to do with the past. The creature Arueshalae just wouldn't exist if she wasn't born a demon. It's simple as that. There wouldn't be anything to "REDEEEEEEM" You are pretending that those souls went to a kindergarten before molding into a succubus. This isn't a question of nurture but of nature. If those particular souls didn't sin, there wouldn't be Arueshalae. Mindfucking her after the fact is not "breaking mind control" since Arueshalae wouldn't exist without said "mind control." The only one mind-controlling is Desna.
>Her actual peronality
Again, how is that her original personality to be judged as a fake one? What makes her sinner self any less of a person than her roofied self? Because she is a trad wife in one of the cases? Convenient. Suit yourself, Mr. Cosby.
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>>739839432
A non sentient soul is a nonsensical concept, it would just be a wave of energy, not a soul. The entire point of a soul is to have sentience without body nor brain, it's the essence of someone. Thus, until its snuffed out, it cannot truly be not sentient.

It's why a soul can be punished: the soul is aware of the punishment and internally screaming, which is why when Desna makes Arue snap back to reality she is instantly hit with feelings of pure dread and horror and regrets everything.
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>>739839702
I'm literally telling you just how Pathfinder lore works, you can say it makes no sense all you want, but that's how it is
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coomers are pure evil and can't be trusted too
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>>739839616
>This has nothing to do with the past
Your hypothethical has everything to do with this, it hinges on the argument that since arue would have turned out differently, it's not the same being. So according to you, a child is mind controlled by the universe when he becomes an orphan because his personality will change as a result.
>You are pretending that those souls went to a kindergarten
Lol, I'm not, I'm literally arguing the redemption stems from her evil behavior.

>What makes her sinner self any less of a person than her roofied self?
But anon, her sinner self IS WHAT DESNA AWAKENS, the souls desna awakens are sinners, her sinner self IS THE ONE WHO WANTS REDEMPTION. It's not roofied, its literally the souls of past sinners.
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A lot of anons with OF subscriptions itt
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>>739839909
Lots of OF whores just film themselves fucking their boyfriends. I would record myself fucking Arue and then send it to Dimalchio.
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>>739839702
>>739839772
Outsider planes can also "spawn" outsiders from it without the need of a mortal's soul like with Arueshalae.
The inheritor and other angels are an example of that. He says in the game he was born out of the plane.
In the setting souls might as well be life putty.
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>>739840168
Yes there are exceptions obviously, but for the most part, outsiders are made of souls
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>>739840168
>>739839772
That makes Pharasma even more of a fucking idiot then
If the souls are not sentient she's just sending random blobs of energy to the abyss so they can become evil demons who murder and rape, and since the souls are not sentient she cannot be claim to be punishing any sinner, she's just doing it for the love of the game.

What a fucking retarded setting
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>>739839885
>arue would have turned out differently
She wouldn't have turned out at all. That's my point. That jpeg of a cute succubus wouldn't exist if she wasn't born a demon. If those souls didn't sin, they would be something else entirely. Completely different being, if they were to be even reborn again. Your waifu simply wouldn't exist to be roofied. Hence, her original demon personality is the true one.
>AWAKENS
You mean roofies? Since there would be hordes of demons "awaking" themselves if they didn't need outside interference, wouldn't they? But curiously, there is only this one particular sex doll demon that changes her entire personality after crossing a god. Almost like demons are their own creatures with their own personalities instead of Google Play cards just waiting to be REDEEEEMED.
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Are you really wasting your time replying to a Diavolofag?
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>>739840392
Keeping the soul machine going on is what delays the end of the universe, that's why annihilating a soul is the worst crime you can do
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Not OP but i am gonna make another thread
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>>739839328
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>>739840458
You're just jelly of my immaculate RP. Show your toon. What, is it some self insert?
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>>739840576
But devouring one isn't? Mortals really are just resources for the gods. fuck them.
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Other succubi recoil from the sheer degeneracy of making her into a happy mother
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>>739840687
Yes anon, devouring is included, that's why daemons are the worst evil outsiders and why Pharasma prefers to give NE souls a chance to go to the Abyss or Hell
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>>739840727
You do meet a succubus mom but she doesn't sound very happy
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>>739840417
>If those souls didn't sin, they would be something else entirely
This doesn't even begin to make sense for your position: Desna didn't unmake the sins, she let the sinner souls act freely. She didn't swap the sinner souls with non sinner souls.

You literally disagree with your own point, KEK, you just admitted she didn't roofie her, as she kept the fundamentals of what makes Arue herself.
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>>739840619
don't do it
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Why does this character attract so many lolcows both for and against her?
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>>739841027
Only against, the only Arue lolcow is our local tranny that didn't show up in this thread
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>>739841027
this is one of the actually good threads without lolcows though
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>>739841165
If this is what you consider a good thread then I'm afraid of seeing a bad one.
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>>739840927
>Desna didn't unmake the sins, she let the sinner souls act freely
ANd if there were no sins, there wouldn't be Arue to begin with to roofie or as you put it "unmake" sins. She simply wouldn't exist. There wouldn't be a pack of souls to make her. You keep ignoring this for some reason, pretending that she would spawn somewhere else if she wasn't a demon.
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>>739841224
you should be
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>>739840927
>as she kept the fundamentals of what makes Arue herself
Where are the non-demon, gluten-free succubi made out of non-sinners' souls, pray tell?
>Yeah, she wouldn't exist without those sinner souls, but because Desna REDEEMED them and overwritten them, the actual demon succubus that was supposed to have been born out of those souls
Gold medal



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