>The Protect Our Games act gas passed the California legislator with 41 votes yes from Democrats and 2 from republicans
>>739818104AAAAIIIIIIEEEEEJANNIES, HELP ME! THE CATTLE ARE TRYING TO OWN THEIR GAMES AGAIN!
>>739818104>Commiefornia
>>739818104Based
>>739818659Can the Jannies give a reason they are banning everyone for talking about videogame related things on the videogames board?
>>739818768I wish. Sadly it’s just Democrats.
>>739818659Love how the situation has gotten so out of control that the corpocucks cant do anything at this point other than go scorched earth and delete SKG threads on sight now. Absolutely glorious.
>>739818659This has nothing to do with owning games, it's just about getting refunds.
>>739818104>and 2 from republicanskek
End your suffering, subhuman /pol/skin.
>>739818994It's actually about not getting fucked by live service shutdowns. The refunds are a last resort of sort.
>>739819117What I'm saying is is the refunds are all you'll get, because zero (0) developers will choose to keep their games online instead.
>>739819283some just make offline versions, like multversus and marvel's avengers
>>739819283>because zero (0) developers will choose to keep their games online instead.Well, they can choose to make the game playable offline instead. Because zero (0) devs will be willing to spend years on an endeavour that works as a glorified loan.
When did you finally accept we were winning /v/?
>>739819283>refund potentially hundreds of millions of dollars because we don't want you to keep playing a game we don't plan to develop anymoreWell, that's certainly a choice.
>>739818104>just 2 republican votes, the others opposedLmao I wonder how mad the shills are that they cant use dem vs rep shitflinging to derail the threads now
>>739818104>gas passed
>>739819283No one is expecting devs or publishers to keep games online forever. What SKG wants is to provide a way for players who bought the games to have the ability to play them indefinitely if they wish. Either by making the game playable offline or giving the ability to host servers/lobbies/etc if the online component is absolutely necessary.Of course, this only applies to games that are purchase to play. This does nothing for F2P games.
>>739818934*illegal immigrants, that is criminalsPutting criminals in cages was standard practice in the Soviet Union when they didn't send them to gulags or execute them after a five minute trial
>>739818104>The POG actWhat timeline even is this
>>739818934Based. Animals need to be put in cages
>>739819625A not entirely terrible one.
>>739818994its about making Js take Lsif activision and ubisoft are against it then i am for it, simple as.
>force devs to keep servers online foreverlmao do you really expect this to happen?grow up
>>739819841Yes. Sorry jew, maybe don't make live service slop
>>739819748The ESA came crying at the assembly and that represents a lot of devs, and yes, it does including ubisoft and activision, throught microsoft.
>>739818104What does it mean?
>>739818104So does this mean if I buy Marathon now I'll get a refund if they shut it down in 5 months?
>>739819841It's not what's being asked, retard.
>>739818934Kids in cages was obama era policy.
>>739819914No. It's not retroactive. This only applies to all games released after the start of 2027, so publishers still have 7 months to fuck you.
>>739819914It's not retroactive so no.
>>739819841>still trying this misinformation tacticWhat's wrong, shill? Too stupid to research new scripts?
>>739819973I suspect a lot of surprise releases of majorly jewish titles this holiday...
>>739818768Texas is worse.
>>739819904That commifornian games will be usable after the shutdown, without any definition of what that means.Yes, commies are that retarded.
>>739820112There is a definition in the text though.
>>739820160You're arguing with a jeet, anon.He doesnt get paid to read, he gets paid to call SKG retarded.
>>739820160You mean the definition for the "ordinary use"? That exact term NOT used to describe the game state after the shutdown? You don't have to pretend to be retarded - you're actually retarded.
>>739820354>games after shutdown are NOT defined as "ordinary use"The sheer brown smelly desperation, lmao. Start job hunting jeet
>encourage devs to adopt F2P models instead if they greenlight a live service projectCongratulations on being retarded. It's genuinely incredible how you're still eating your own shit and thinking to yourself how delicious it is.
>>739820767>>739819841damn shills are afraid, it's working bros
>>739820767>>encourage devs to adopt F2P models instead if they greenlight a live service projectOh btw how's Marathon doing?
>>739820930What the fuck do I care? It's not my kind of game. If it's doing well, great. If it's not, I don't care and doesn't affect me. What's the point of your question again?
>>739818939Not just delete but ban you for even talking about it despite it 100% being within rules.
>>739818659lol, these jannies are actual unreal. fucking vidya related discussion on a vidya board and they try to shut it down. i still remember these fuckers did the same thing when skg was trying to get petitions in the eu early on.
>>739820986>you're encouraging devs to take.up f2p live service games>also what the fuck do I care how profitable f2p live service games actually are?Fair enough, you dont get paid to think if your shitposts are sensible and grounded.
>>739821304Yep but every time the faggots deleted a thread 2 more would get made and then people started posting literal CP in the threads to get them shut down.
https://legiscan.com/CA/text/AB1921/id/3438186Mouthbreathers and people unable to read need not respond to this. In 60 days before my live service game shuts down I'm informing you that you will be losing access to all game features, and your continued use of the game shall amount to loading the game and observing goatse.jpg instead of the menu.Have I fulfilled the bill's requirements? I'm thinking yes.
>>739818104>gas passed BRAAAAP!
>>739821401That's called malicious compliance and would get you fucked. nice try though Jeet
>>739821401>Originary functionsNo. have fun in court
>>739820065lmao
>>739821401What ceases is the services provided by the operator, the ordinary use is what has to be independent of the operator.So continuation of ordinary use is the intended outcome.
>>739818104wtf I love democrats now
>>739821309Are you an ESL? I'm saying if whatever studio chooses to greenlight a live service project, they'll do an F2P model instead of a pay upfront model like Overwatch. I didn't say this dumb initiative will encourage devs to make more live service games.
>>739821401>I'm thinking yes.That's because you're stupid and illiterate. Read it again, moron.
>>739821401>you will be losing access to all game features, and your continued use of the game shall amount to loading the game and observing goatse.jpg instead of the menu.Is that what the game did before you rolled out your update? Because if the answer is no, then you're committing a crime. Nor do you fulfill SKG's requirements.Are you a retarded shill? Im thinking yes.
>>739821661>if whatever studio chooses to greenlight a live service project, they'll do an F2P model instead of a pay upfront model like Overwatch.And how profitable are those models to entice such a choice?I know you wont answer, you dont get paid to think.>no saar you esl saar
>>739821401>and, beginning on the date an operator ceases to provide services necessary for the ordinary use of the game, require the operator to provide the purchaser with an alternate version of, a patch or update to, or a refund for, the game>and prohibit the operator from selling, leasing, or otherwise distributing a version of the game that cannot be used by a purchaser independent of services controlled by the operatorThese 2 sentences together will get you fucked in the ass if you attempt to provide an altered version of the game that's not actually functional.
>>739821487Is that an actual thing in the USA? Where is that defined?>>739821519Are you having a stroke?>>739821634Bit it doesn't say "continued ordinary use". It says "continued use". > 739821718> 739821729(You) denied.
>>739819948The image is literally criticizing democrats you braindead retard
>>739820767>>encourage devs to adopt F2P modelsGood, all live service slop should be relegated to F2P shit, not like the paid ones don't also do the same shit every F2P game does anyways when it comes to monetization.
>>739821776What the fuck are you on about? The reason I'm saying they will go F2P instead is to skirt this dumb law.
>>739821894Really? Do you have to pull for characters in Overwatch? Do you have to grind gaybucks to unlock characters in Overwatch like you have to in League? Because that's what pure F2P models look like.
>>739821982>>Really? Do you have to pull for characters in Overwatch?as Roadhog yes
>>739821835You clearly didn't read the thing since it requires you keep ordinary function
>>739821401>gets to an appellate court >judges apply an interpretation >company blatantly attempting malicious compliance gets fucked into the dirt Do you sincerely think nobody has ever thought of this before?
>>739818768Many famous people live there, you’re just jealous because you live in a poor area with data centers using up water.
>>739818934>Communists, anarchists and whatever the other thing is: "We should be putting white people in cages instead"
>>739821910>The reason I'm saying they will go F2P instead is to skirt this dumb law.Yes and Im sure simple stuff such as making a profitable product are completely irrelevant to this decision. It's all about skirting the evil law and showing the evil gubermint who's boss.
>>739821835Malicious compliance is indeed a thingGod bless common law contracts and the judges who interpret them
>>739818104goodbased, even
>>739822163>>739821910>>739821776>>739821661>>739821309>>739820986This law applies to F2P games as well
>>739822070Ironic.Well, no point in talking to you.
>>739822281Depends how "offered to a person for no monetary consideration" is interpreted and whether that applies to ingame microtransactions. I'm not sure there were public debates about this specific point.
>>739821109>Not just delete but ban you for even talking about it despite it 100% being within rules.Please understand goon, gacha gooning and AI slop threads are more important than videogame threads.
>>739822128No, I'm just dumbfounded how I'm the only person ITT who actually read the bill. It's one page FFS.It defines "ordinary use", mentions ordinary use as something that depends on operator's services, explains how cessation of said services could provide an option of "continued use", clearly and deliberately not using the word "ordinary" anymore, and saying that it's the operator who should explain what the continued use looks like.Not a single SKG supporter ITT has even tried figuring out what they're talking about. A negative IQ black hole.
God I love my stateFucking republican cunts, downright demonic. All but 2 decided to stand with the people. Corpo cock sucking scum.
>>739819283
>>739822640>didnt answer the questionMalicious compliance and rugpullign are crimes in the civilized world that entire courts exist to fuck people that try to pull this shit. But of course you wouldnt know that, you dont even live here
>>739822568>offered to a person for no monetary consideration"items are so they count
>>739822668>years of kvetching about muh letist commies>finally some legislation gamers want gets considered>it's in california>"demonrats" are the ones voting for it while republicans are overwhelmingly againstLove to see it
>>739822836My first word was "No", the answer to your question. Holy shit.
>>739822640That's a lot of word salad to admit you were are wrong
>>739819283Nobody needs their shitty matchmaking or censorship anyway .If keeping a game with that shit is nonviable to theire beancounters, just bring private server tools back
>>739822958I'm sorry that TikTok fried your brain. Nobody deserves that.
>>739822935>Do you sincerely think nobody has ever thought of this before?>No saar, I didnt saar. Angry jeet stupidity is so funny
>aw shucks fellas, I’m just trying to ask some questions here!Every fucking time with you bootlicking shills
>>739818104Good.The best part of this? The EU Commission will have to align now on equivalent action in the EU, or they'll massively lose face.
Yes, you actually trolled me by repeatedly showing complete inability to read. Good job.
>>739818934Sorry I think you had the wrong image.
>>739823083>UH WHAT IF I DISABLE EVERYTHING?>"Game requires ordinary function"
>>739822926>>739822668>>739818104Was there an open debate on the Stop Killing Games bill or did they just vote?I really want to see if the No votes just repeated the corpo talking points and lies like you saw in the EU debate.
>>739823268The real best part of this is when the EU passes similar legislation, the fact that a major market in America did so as well completely torpedoes the classic shill line of>they’ll just segregate Europe!It’s no wonder the Saardukar warriors have been shitting themselves even more than usual over this.
>>739823356>Affordable housingHow come I had to move from California to a red state to get affordable housing?
>>739823524It just went down party lines>Dems want X so we have to hate XOnly 2 Republicans actually turned on their brain to think
>>739823545kek. hadn't even considered that. but you're right- it obliterates the us -vs- them distraction-narrative.
>>739821594>age verification lawsYeh it's worse.
If theyre only required to provide a refund wont games just shift to subscription models or premium extra access ala DLC so they can refund 0 dollars and call it a day?
>>739822668I think even the most hardcore Reps these days understand that the Republican party is the corporate dicksucker party, it's just that they prefer that to the "fuck white men" platform.Personally, I get fucked far more by corporations than I do by governments these days, so I vote for whomever is going to counter-fuck the corporations on my behalf.I want them to all suffer until every single investor pulls a Peter Thiel and runs their worthless asses to Argentina or New Zealand or some shit and the US government just seizes their assets (which is where the vast majority of their wealth is anyways).
>>739822668Kill yourself you disgusting beaner
>>739823524>I really want to see if the No votes just repeated the corpo talking points and lies like you saw in the EU debate.ESA representatives came to present their own arguments so they didn't need talking heads among the assembly members. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billAnalysisClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260AB1921in04/15/26- Assembly Privacy And Consumer ProtectionESA opposes AB 1921 on the basis that it “mischaracterizes digital ownership”:AB 1921 is premised, in part, on the idea that consumers “own” digital games in a way that entitles them to indefinite access. That framing does not reflect how software is distributed.Consumers receive a license to access and use a game, not an unrestricted ownership interest in the underlying work.[. . .]The definition of “ordinary use” relies on the concept that a consumer “owns” a digital game and does not align with the realities of licensed digital products.However, AB 1921 does not contain language suggesting a purchaser of a video game has an “unrestricted ownership interest” in the underlying copyrighted work – it is scoped to allow apurchaser to continue to make “ordinary use” of a work, consistent with the reasonable expectations of a purchaser based on how the digital game was advertised or marketed. Neither does the bill use the word “own” or “buy” to describe the purchasing of a video game, despite those terms being industry standard language.ESA continues, arguing that obsolescence is a “natural feature” of modern software:Video games are creative works but fundamentally different from traditional media like books or films in that they are also complex software systems that depend on evolving hardware, operating systems, and, in many cases, online services. Some games, particularly those that rely on online infrastructure, may cease to function when supporting services are discontinued. This is a natural feature of modern software.Cont.
>>739824010The DMCA exemption detailed in section (3) above outlines clear criteria under which a purchaser of a video game may make indefinite, noninfringing use of a software product despite (and specifically in response to) online support services being discontinued. The author may wish to align the scope and terminology of this bill with the DMCA exemption adopted by the Copyright Office to ensure compatibility with federal law.
>>739823786Quite literally everything about CA is a crime against humanity, you don't have to point at any specific aspect of it to know that everyone there should be killed.
>>739818104Californian here!This is great news, but sadly we are not out of the woods just yet. All it needs now is approval from the State Senate and a signature from Governor Gavin Newsom himself.If you live in the state, contact your senator to convince them to give this bill their full, unconditional support. Here's where you can find your state senator.https://findyourrep.legislature.ca.gov/
>>739820767If they want to bankrupt themselves even faster then be my guest.
>>739823559>to a red statenigga moved to Soviet Union LMAO
>>739824128Nah, that's Texas.
Which games exactly are being killed? Is this about Call of Duty or some shit?
>>739824298If you don't know, it doesn't concern you anyway.
>>739822668There were literally more democrats that voted no than republican, republicans are a very small minority of the californian legislature
>>739818659>Jannie's reaction
>>739824501Anon, of the 22 Republicans, 20 of them voted no.Stop being retarded.
>>739823786One law for major pornsites. California on the other hand is a shithole, no offense.
>>739824501What percentage of republicucks voted no? What percentage of demonrats?
>>739824501Literally and figuratively wrong when you look at the actual vote tally.
>>739824597Texas banned vpns, retardbro.
>>739818934>communists against caging peopleYou’ve never actually looked up the history of communism have you?
>>739824597>One law for major pornsites.And also every app store.Gotta "protect le kids" at the behest of tech CEOs after all.
>>739824639Holy fuck do republigoyim really?
>>739824414It doesn't have to concern me, I'm just curious. Name some
>>739822668that's not what all but means, retardenglish is the only language you speak so at least speak it well
>>739824708dumb esl
>>739818821They hired new Jannies recently. All flip-flop wearers for sure.
>>739818934>communists>having any qualms about putting people in prisons, cages or ditches
>>739824765Fucking retard, what you wrote is saying those 2 are the only ones that aren't "standing with the people". You are so fucking stupid holy shit. Clearly the Californian public education system has failed you.
>>739824842>esl tries to correct anon>is wrongdumb retard
>>739824702https://stopkillinggames.wiki.gg/wiki/Dead_game_list
>>739821401>I'm thinking yes :)
>>739819283>1000 SKG threads later>people still making the “devs to run the servers until the end of time now” argument Remember their vote is equal to yours
>>739824640>>739824656Oh you're lying. Yeah you lost shill.
>>739824639It's always weird to me how Republicans are major corporate dick suckers, and then you look at the amount of money they get for being corporate dick suckers and it's like fucking $3000 combined from companies that are worth literally $10+ trillion in total.It's insane to be a corporate whore, but to be a CHEAP corporate whore is just fucking wild.Same with all that Flock shit, you'd think these reps would be getting literally 10s of thousands from Flock to push for this surveillance shit, and it's like $600 and dinner.
>>739824695Stop Killing Games is taking funds away from israel
>>739825079That's right, deny reality, that'll work.
>>739825130You tried that one already and got told to fuck off.
>>739825170When shills like you resort to lying it means good people are winning.
>>739825105Have you considered some people value freedom and dont support giving the state more power?
>>739824639That's a fake image btw. Are retarded shill still trying to push this divide and conquer tactic? We already won lol. Gamers untied.
Just add the button.That's it.
>>739825281People value their individual freedom, not corporate freedom.
>>739825272Cope, seethe, and die.I hope Texas bans this site for not having age verification so I can laugh at your worthless state even more.
>>739825281I don't value public corporate freedom at all, publicly-traded corporations should be slaves to the state operated by free individuals.
>>739825369Any person can start a company so theres no difference
>>739818104why do republicans want to kill games?
>>739818934Prison is literally a cage, bub
>>739825343this post is incredibly antisemitic
>>739822150>Many famous people live thereyou are an NPC
>>739819551>provide a way for players who bought the games to have the ability to play them indefinitely if they wishSo the developers need to provide a patch, which is only going to be available online? And who's responsible when that update server goes down? You can't sideload updates on consoles.
>>739822668You're not american though.
>play live service game>spend money on live service game>player depopulation>server shuts down>”they stole my money REEEEEEEE”Why do these people feel entitled to a live service game in the first place. Maybe had they not installed or bought a live service game, this wouldn’t be an issue.stop killing games is a psyop from the same people who brought you the Epstein Files, Hunter Biden’s laptop, Five guys and gamergate. It’s fucking obvious someone put up that fucking incel nerd up to it, like moot and /pol/. This is just so some fucking saudi arabian can play some stupid as fuck game that no cares about.
>>739825340>Shills have gone back to 'The votes are a lie'ESA in full damage control to save their pawns who voted against gamers.
>>739825530Whoa there, cool it with the antisemitic remarks.
>>739825245>Uh sar I told you to go awayThat's nice Sar
>>739825690>>”they stole my money REEEEEEEE”Yes
>>739825483There is when the company becomes a separate juridical entity from the person who founded it.
>>739822152>whatever the other thing isSocial Democrats Basically imagine every social policy you think as being socially liberal and incredibly retarded when you give it two seconds of thought, and they're the ones that support it.I wish I was just being hyperbolic.
>>739818104>jewreps at againlmao
Start Killing Gamers
Complaining that a live service game will die someday is like telling someone that the sun will set. This is the stupidest legislation.
>>739819841Yes. Reminder that you will go to jail if you turn off that server. I paid for that game, I will be receiving all the features it had to offer at the day of purchase
>Complaining that a live service game will die someday is like telling someone that the sun will set. This is the stupidest legislation.
>>739825105Democrats are the ones that support woke corporations though, bootlicker
>>739825989I didn't realize we had game journalists around.
>>739826089And yet today they proved they were less of a bootlicker than republicucks
>>739825989The left tried that after gamergate
>>739825996The problem isn't that they die, the problem is that it's corposcum forcing the decision on the people who paid for the game.
>>739819946How will it work?
>>739826268>keep alive foreveror>let people make their own servers (this kills consoletards)or>refund
>>739826238as opposed to govt scum forcing developers to magically replace network architecture and proprietary middleware so you can play live service ubislop?
>>739826183No they didn't, they just passed a law that let's millionaires commit fraud you low IQ bootlicker
>>739826268
>>739825808You could have read the EULA or not have bought the game or from the game. Gamers often complain that games today aren’t like the games that came complete on the disc from yesterday, like typical bing bing wahoos. Honestly, bro, money talks and the fact that you or other people are buying these live service games, tells me that it really is your fault, your problem. You couldn’t be more of an entitled baby, a total manchild.
>>739818768The best advertisement for Communism is some faggot boomer/executive/hired jeet calling [objectively good policy] “Communism”.It’s like how calling people Nazis for not wanting Drag Queens near kids, or for wanting brown people get the same sentence as whites.
>>739826268>>739825343
>>739826415>gamersIts not gamers spamming these threads, you can tell by the style of arguments they're using
>>739826439State having more control is objectively badAnd yes giving the state control is communism
>>739826403I'm sure you'll be able to explain how that's the case
>>739826238who forced you to pay for it?
>>739826439>Heh the best argument for communism is when you don't do what the state tells you goyim
>>739826414Couldn't they just add a text stating you can't expect support beyond 5 years or something, when you purchase it?
>>739825385Same because I'm Texan and it would finally break my addiction to this shithole.
>>739818768>NOOOOOO>I JUST WANT TO LICK BOOTS
>>739826380>muh crewYou niggers always have the same talking points.If making their online game not requiring online is too hard, one easy solution is to not make it always online in the first place.
>>739826505If you followed politics you'd know commiefornia just passed the Stop Nick Shirley Act which protects millionaires and politicians who commit fraudBut hey atleast the 1% also agreed to give themselves more power of gaming
>>739826481>ctrl + f>”jew”Ah, I see.
>>739826617>no uCapitalists don't wear boots you bootlicking faggot
>>739825884Most of the highest QoL places in the world have been build by social democrats.
>>739825385>>739826583You're not american.
>>739826617Yes keep kicking Gavin Newsom's boots
>>739826380Yes. Can't manage it, don't make a live service game.
>>739818934
>>739826734Name one country built by social democrats
>>739826734your gay Scandinavian examples were actually built by abundant natural resources and free trade
>>739826580Putting an arbitrary hard limit is kinda bad for both sides.
>>739826720>no u>reading comprehension
>>739824640>>739826810
>>739825385only deported brown hands could possibly hate a southern state this much lol
>>739818659>>739818821>jannies let an e-celeb thread stay up for 20h yesterday>but they delete actual vidyaI hate nu-/v/
>>739826790you're a teenager and never programmed in your life
>>739826650I certainly don't follow who amongst the red goyim or the blue goyim lick taint best
>>739825884you mean retarded policies like free healthcare and education? I guess those things are retarded when you can just use taxpayer dollars to make politicians even richer
>>739825989This will be their final solution lol
>>739826848I didn't say "country built" though.Most countries predate social democracy after all.But they made them what they are today.>>739826854>he thinks only scandinavia had strong social democratsOk educationlet.
>>739826859It doesn’t sound like you’re trying to have a rational discussion. Nor is the anon calling people goyim and jew. Maybe if you explained yourself and your perspective, it may change people’s mind on a matter but the flamboyant remarks don’t help.
BOO
>>739826415>don't buy scams>market still flooded with scamsWhen voting with your wallet doesn't work, it's time to escalate.
>>739826943Feel free to share your own work on videogame network architecture.
>>739819283literally all they are asking for are ways to set up dedicated serverswe literally solved this problem 15 years ago
>>739826969>>739826859>no argumentYou low IQ bootlickers always start seething when you loseNext time look up what you're supporting, retard
>>739827001list the countries
>>739827028>It doesn’t sound like you’re trying to have a rational discussion.Nigga, you completely misrepresented what I was saying.You don't get to make this claim.
>>739826943Can't manage it? Don't make liveservice games.
>>739827056and the skg progamlette resorts to deflection again
>>739827001You literally said "build by social democrats", I changed it to built because that's the correct term you idiot.Heres you're post >>739826734Now, name one country built by social democrats
It's over for single player games and pirates when this shit forces everything to require servers forever
>>739827086Why would I argue with your retarded statements?
>>739827172you're a teenager and never programmed in your life
>>739826973They are retardedFree healthcare is causing massive debt everywhere because old people are living too long and there aren't enough young people. Pharma companies outright stop developing drugs when they cant get into the US market because the Europoor market isnt able to cover the sky high cost of R&D. Its an unsustainable failure that rides on momentum of once successful countries as they collapseFree education is the same. Raising credentials requirements and burning money for no gain while simultaneously giving people the sense that theyre better than actually productive work (which is overwhelmingly manual)
>>739826848Spain and Denmark both have majority Social Democrat parties running them and have for a long time. Germany as well, although theirs is specifically Christian and they have a smaller areligious one that usually just does what the Christian one says.
>>739827123>>739827261>no argumentWhy keep throwing a tantrum?
>>739827234you are going to get that whether or not SKG exists, you might as well try to fight back
>>739827192If your argument is that people can't have an opinion unless they work in the field, then you better have the chops to back it up, nigger.
>>739827234Why would that not be happening right now if it were actually lucrative or desirable? There's nothing stopping them from making every game a live-service coin on a string right this moment.
What if instead of Stop Killing Games, devs decided to Stop Making Games
>>739819283illiterate drooling retard
>>739818104This needs to be extended to all products. A company doesn't want to sell something they should have to provide details of how it is made. Think of how shit food has become as companies see how much they can replace with sawdust.
>>739827384yes, you can't argue unless you understand the implications of your legislation, programlette
>>739827091Ohter than all scandinavian countries (Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland), Netherlands, Germany, Austria. Supposedly also Canada and New Zeland.Pretty much all the QoL improvements there has been thought for and won by social democrats (and are now slowly being torn down by right parties).
>>739827202Yes, the QoL is the result of social democracy
>>739827290Running them isnt building them you fucking retardSpain was once a great country, one of the most powerful in the world built on imperialism. It hasn't been a major world player in well over 100 years and has been in steady declineParasites cannot build countries, only leech off them until they die. Spain has 25% youth unemployment rate. Its already over for them
>>739827234>>739827341That's not happening, there are plenty of companies making games that aren't like that.>b-but my headcannonDoesn't line up with the reality you want to exist so you can feel good about being mad about stuff.
>>739827517Post your work.
>>739826848I can't even name a country that was built when the concept existed
>>739826943Bro you cannot use the "you don't program" argument to gaslight anyone that locally hosted online multiplayer (the standard for multiplayer games for over a decade) is too hard to implement.
>>739827517Oh, I do understand the implications, it's just that it's not my problem to make it easy for the developers to do their job.
>>739827202I said "places" because if I had used "counrties" you would have been "hurr durr akshully they have been founded by conservative parties, social democrats didn't exist then".Here >>739827518
>>739827290Germany is run by conservatives, Spain by socialists and neither have a good quality of life, both are being destroyed due to mass immigration
>>739827541>Doesn't line up with the reality you want to exist so you can feel good about being mad about stuff.it doesn't matter if it exists or not, it's very much the intended ideawhether or not they succeed is another issue but you cannot deny that if they could force players to be online and logged in all the time to their platforms to play they absolutely would
>>739824296>Nah, that's TexasAgree, Texas is overran with Californians that fled that shit state.
>>739827330You started it ;)
>>739826156>>739826187U gays are just 2 annoying and contribute nothing
>>739827681If Germany doesn't have good quality of life then no country on earth deos. You have never left your house
>>739827518Germany wasnt built by socialists and every other country you named would have been gobbled up by the Soviets post WW2 if the US wasnt babysitting them. Socialists did not build nor are they capable of maintaining anythingThe only reason any of them are in better shape than Russia today is that capitalists were fighting back against commies
>>739827681Which countries have a good quality of life?
>>739827040Because you want developers to cater to you.
>>739818104>Doesnt apply to free to play gamesPointless
>>739827518Sweden is one of the rape capitals of the world because of the left. It was built up by right wingers who openly practiced eugenics which only ended a few decades ago
>>739827517>it affects you but you don't get a say because uhhh, you don't know how to do it yourselfso true, the worst offenders are people who think their car should be better in some way when they can't even build a car themselves
Fuck you bruh shut up
>>739827681>germany is run by conservativeswhat are they conserving exactly
>>739827771Germany is run by conservatives, and no it does not have a good quality of life. What do you think is so good about Germany when you aren't even European?
>>739827526>Running them isnt building themIt was after world war 2.
>>739827449Because you need my cock fool
>>739827790True, and not relevant. I also want scams to not be viable so evil people stop profiting from idiots.
>>739827918I am European, I've evern lived and worked in Germany. Again, you have never left your house
>>739827886The lefts hatred of white people and the GDP
>>739819748this post is illegal in texas lol
>>739822926Yeah the state that destroyed video games California, is now going to save video games. Lol sure, because nothing bad ever comes out California.
>>739827781Germany as a nationstate? No.Modern Germany? Yes.Also called it >>739827640>also those sweeping generalizations, americentrism and lack of any insight in the intricacies of any of those contriesHoly cow. Read a book sometime.If it weren't for various socialist aligned parties pushing for reforms you'd still be working 90 hours a week and your children would be in a mine instead of going to school.
>>739827982You're not European, you're a seething faggot projecting because you're fat. If you went to Germany you'd know how bad it is because of immigrantion.You'd atleast have known the conservatives were the ones currently in power, retard
>>739818934Communist and leftism is just jewish supremacy. How dare White people have borders and police their homeland. How dare White people not harm their race by mass third world immigration.>Communists, anarchists and whatever the other thing is: "We should be putting white people in cages instead to help jews">Communists, anarchists and whatever the other thing is: "What the fuck, why are my masters, whose last name all end in berg and cohen are suddenly backstabbing me when it comes to Israel and Palestine.
>>739819386For some games that's impossible. Mmo's like wow rely on cloud services.
>>739828094>I called that you would win the argumentThen you shouldn't have made such a stupid claim in the first place. This is why I hate leftists, they're so fucking stupid
>>739828112I didn't mention conservatives. The poster before me was probably another basement dweller getting his facts from internet memes
>>739828025Questioning the Holocaust and doubting the cage with the bear and eagle, or the deadly masturbation machine, or the holocoaster that threw people into the ovens after going down the track, or the grate that lowered people into the electric swimming pools is illegal in every civilized country
>>739827526Not me, also called it >>739827640
>>739822668When will Republicans wake up and realize they've been hoodwinked into Zionism and now pray to the Anti-Christ?
>Amerigolems projecting their own behaviour on the left, let alone the rest of the world
>>739828176There are plenty of private servers for WoW.
>>739828094Communist counties worked far more than capitalist ones, low IQ bootlicker
>>739826882Texas isn't southern
>>739822926Nobody gives a fuck about this retarded legislation. Neither do you, but because your a shabbos goy cattle, the media made you think this trivial shit matters. Meanwhile, because you're a goy, you are engaging in party politics shit, over fucking video games mind you, while our country is being destroyed by Israel and antiwhite shitheads. But these concerns never cross your mind, because you are fucking goy cattle.
>>739828197could i a get qrd
>>739828253Biden was a zionist thoughAnd epstein was a DemocratLeftists fell for it again
>>739828184>I called that you would win the argumentYou're not making any sense. But what do I expect from a /pol/brained retard?>This is why I hate leftists, they're so fucking stupidWhat's your highest degree anon?>inb4 saying education isn't worth it
>>739828094Modern germany is a weaker and less successful version of Germany from 100 years ago. What exactly have they built?All they've done is cripple the country and import immigrants dooming themselves demographically so they can keep getting pension checks for another 30 years
>>739828176Literally google 'world of warcraft local server'
>>739827478Fraudsters leaving the market is a desirable outcome.
>>739827518New Zealander here, New Zealand fucking sucks dick it's an utter hellhole and you're smoking crack. Rapidly becoming New New Delhi and there is nothing but a future of eternal slavery and surveillance state bullshit for anyone under the age of 75 The entire country is one giant boomer nursing home with every policy (including the social democrat pushed ones) being designed solely to benefit boomers or infringe on the rights of the citizens.>>739827526>Parasites cannot build countriesThat's what I've been saying!!! Idk why we keep importing soany browns when all they can do is leech of the white man's work
>>739828278Nobody is talking about communism retard.
>>739828196You mentioned Germany. You are so fucking stupid
>>739828365Maybe you should check which parties are currently running them into the ground, huh?You probably won't like what you will see...
>>739828347>/pol/brainedHoly shit you're that jewish spammer who hates white people lel, no wonder you're such a faggot
>>739820040>>739820823>>739823170Someone should make a bingo card of the most common responses we see in these threads. "Forced to hand over source code"Or"Forced to keep servers on forever" Should be the free space.
>>739828335All those things have been officially claimed and doubting them or any other aspect of that terrible event is illegal, including the bendy shotgun where evil Nazis tricked innocent jews into shooting themselves by forcing them to shove the shotgun into a curved hole in the wall
>>739827970Now hold on a second. If this is a money issue to you, I think we can resolve this and not make it the developer’s problem. Hear me out. What if we have intelligent pricing AND we give out government food stamps but for in-game cosmetics. That way NEETs don’t have to budget their spending on things like deodorant or toothpaste. We could have our cake and eat it too all while NEETs get to enjoy their digital toys!
>>739828404That's why I sad supposedly. You just read occasionally about it, but I dont know if it's true. Never verified it.
>>739822640We all read it you stupid fuck, you're the only one who didn't understand it.
>>739825340You think the shabbos goy who unironically bleep out "republican bad, muh corporate, muh stop killing games" are capable of critical thinking skills? Its hard to tell a centrist goyim retards, who assist in divide and conquer, from the shill engaging in divide and conquer tactics.
Start killing gamers You are treating these superfluous little distractions like food, housing and education which you are happily being deprived of.
>>739828513Answer the question anon.
>>739828365The anti-immigration parties in Europe are all social democrats at their core and the more right-wing capitalistic parties have been pro-immigration. this discussion makes no sense
>>739828414>>739828347You literally did you fucking idiot. You are the dumbest person I've ever seen on this website by far>look at Germany they're run by socialist>they're run by conservatives>I didn't mention conservativesGet your IQ tested
>>739828278You're just a brown person latching onto leftism as a cope. Those communist countries were White. Its race, not class that matters, and these communist countries would have been better off if Europeans managed to kill off foreign aliens like Marx, Trotsky, and Lenin before their "experiment" to conquer White Europeans took off.
>>739828538that's physically impossible
>>739825530Many Republicans are lolberts who attach themselves to one of the only parties that has a chance of winning.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsESo a lot of Republicans end up sucking off corpo dick all the time.
>>739828541It applies to every country you listed because there are no honestly successful and happy western countries left. They are ALL on the boomer gravy train plan and hoping they can just milk it a bit longer and be dead before consequences hit.I talk to scandis all the time. For a group of countries always topping the 'happiness index's they sure are all fucking miserable.
Reminder that the >muh commiesand>muh americansare bad actors and divide and conquer shills. Ross is American, this act got American support and loads of youtubers who promoted SKG were American. The popularization of the idea that Americans somehow do not want better workers' rights or regulations that benefit the common person is literally propaganda. Corporations just have a stranglehold on US politicians and bribery is legal; the average American has no control over their government whatsoever.
>>739828481>currentlyIts been declining for over 50 yearsReally any country is already doomed when it gives women equal rights
>>739828627>American calling everything that isn't capitalist bootlicking COMMUNISMLmao, what a classic. Must be nice to live in a simple black/white world.
>>739828343>Netanyahu's puppet doesn't support zionism!Trumped desu. Enjoy burning.
>>739828601You can't understand basic sentences rabbi
>>739828675Which countries today would you say are both successful, happy and have no influence of social democracy?
>>739828626Bullshit, there is nothing more embarrassing then Europeans acting like their left aren't the anti-white party and the same embarrassing shit as the ones in America. With the victory of international judaism in post-1945, ending the White world order, all parties are pro brown immigration. Every single one.
>>739828682Regulations doomed countriesIf you can only think of short term benefits instead of long term impact you are the brain of a nigger
>>739828627>>look at Germany they're run by socialist>>they're run by conservatives>>I didn't mention conservativesNice strawman.
>>739828715Biden called himself a zionist, and epstein was still a DemocratKarl Marx was also jewish btw
American dollar has lost over a quarter of its value in 1.5 yearsIt's only going to get worse
>>739828594The grocery store doesn't come and extract nutrients from my body when they discontinue a product line.
>>739828539>what if we subsidize the scams
I expected the republicans, but what's with this D bitch?
>>739828675>It applies to every country you listed because there are no honestly successful and happy western countries left.Not true. Netherlands is statisically one of the best places to live and has the happies population.
>>739828682Nice try retard, problem is, Stop Killing Games is an inherently trivial issue, its bread and circuses for centrist retards like you, while aiding in dividing tactics.
>>739828275>>739828369Okay maybe WoW was a bad example. Some games like Sim city 2013 rely on cloud services to help people run the game. The power of the cloud was important to have the game even be playable with offline being impossible.
>>739828714>>739828772The jewish leftist is having a meltdownStill hasn't made an argument though, typical low IQ leftist
>>739828791>epstoon was a demoncrat >still saying this when he was buddy buddy with trumps biggest backers You've been epsteined
>>739828754Why are you adding that last point, anon?I was just saying none of your examples hold water. You need to go find the better examples yourself I'm not doing your homework for you, I'm just letting you know that my lived experience contradicts your uninformed assumptions and that you should do a better job verifying your claims.
>>739828847Self reports dont countEuros simply accept lower standards of everything because they are trained to be submissive like the japanese
>>739828767Both the left and right wing capitalists have been pro-immigration. The anti-immigration parties have had their exact same policies, focusing on one issue onlyOne of our most prominent anti-immigration politician used to be a leftist further left than the social democrats. You obviously do not know what you're talking about
>>739828808It's not important
You refused to talk about video games on /v/ for 20 years. And you are going to burn for it. BURN!!!
>>739828847>Netherlands is statisicallyHappiness statistics are based on a bunch of metrics, none of which are actually self-reported happiness of individuals.Ironically it's the few Muslim countries that aren't war-torn shit holes that top the list when you simply rank it by asking people 'how happy are you with life' and average it out.
>>739828705>last time social democrats were the sole governing party in your country was 50 years agoChecks out, kek.
>>739828982So why don't any left wing parties today stand against immigration, bootlicker?
>>739828791Sorry, I don't like bringing up jews, because it makes you realize that the whole Democrat-Republcian divide is a jewish joke, since the real divide in politics is either believing that Jews deserve to rule, and Whites must cede their power to nonWhites (all mainstream politics), or believing that Whites have a right to exist, right to rule themselves and defend their kin interests (made taboo since 1945).
>>739828671That's a hate crime. You're going to jail unless you live in America.
>>739828682Finally someone gets it, muh democrats muh Republicans Corporations control everything now, the government is just a front.
>>739828962>Euros simply accept lower standards of everything because they are trained to be submissive like the japaneseEuros are not the ones that don't have worker rights, public healthcare or edible food among a myriad of other things like cities designed for human beings rather than the car industry
>>739828867They patched the game to run offline in 2024.
>>739828717Roman catholic before currently non-denominational.Your strawman isn't working.Now answer the question.
>>739828992If you only do important things you would not be posting here.
>>739819117Oh look, it's that fucking skitzo guy again.
>>739829067>actually I would hate the freedom to drive where I wantedLike I said, europoors just have low standards. Bugman mentality, the complete lack of faustian spirit
>>739828863You know what else is bread and circuses?You, posting here So now you are faced with a problemEither you stop posting, put your money where your mouth is and go do something in the real world that is politically meaningfulOr admit that you are an industry shill trying to stomp out SKG by convincing everyone it's 'not important' and they should instead go and worry about shit they can't realistically changeYou're so obvious it hurts
>>739828879Epstein is a Democrat and donated millions to the Dems, this is public information.Maxwell was also a Democrat
>>739828875>jewishProve it.Otherwise I'm accepting your concession.
>>739828962Yeah I bet they'd be happier being trailer trash in the US dying from easily treatable ailments.
>>739829024All parties, anti-immigration or not, are social democrats by any historical meaning of the word
>>739829094You were already outed as a jew seething about "muh /pol/ boogeyman", rabbiAnd you're still a low IQ bootlicker who can't read or make an argument
>>739828962Self reports do count, but they don't track self reports because then they can't massage the data to say that whatever country is most like their politics is the best.Self reported happiness is highest is muzzrat countries (the ones not being bombed or psyopped by the US).
>>739829093Okay maybe Sim City was a bad example. Toxic Commando uses the power of the cloud to stream textures directly over the internet to your game to improve performance. Playing this game would be impossible without this service which is why it needs to remain online at all times.
>>739829093Please stop debunking me.
>>739829024Because they need those illegal voters, this is why democrats go apeshit every time someone suggests voter ID's.
>>739829094>>739829154This rabbi is having a full meltdown
>>739829102Im not making a stink about "stop killing 4chan"
>>739829215>it's not real communismHas now become>everyone is social democratLeftists really are just retards
>>739828820Have you ever bought anything on amazon before?
>>739829208Americans live in significantly nicer houses that europoors, and ours actually have ACAgain, you accept mediocrity like a loyal goyslave. If you moved to the US and actually got a job you would live in luxury compared to your shithole
>>739829136>the freedom to drive where I wantedWe still have that, on top of having the freedom to not be shackled to a car to do anything, which you lack.But sure, do tell us how we have low standards when you're forcefed carcinogens and assorted poisons by your beloved corporations, do tell us how we have low standards for having worker rights and public healthcare mandated by law while you get bankrupted for calling an ambulance and pay five times the prices for inferior goods, I'm sure shitposting on this bot infested hellhole will convince your masters to triple your salary just like Hiroyuki did to our beloved jannies.
>>739829215>world is worse than a century ago>everyone is a social democrat nowReally activating my almonds bro
>>739829254That's not proof, just wishful thinking.Everybody hates /pol/ so it's in no way identifying information.Anything else?>And you're still a low IQ Empirically proven wrong.>bootlicker Whose boots?>who can't read or make an argumentOh yeah? Thread proves the opposite.Misrepresenting my posts as strawmen doesn't count.
>>739829408Both Americans and Europeans are accepting lower quality of life due to mass immigration and higher taxesAmerica has worse immigration but Europeans have worse governments and no rights
>>739829408>Americans live in significantly nicer housesOnly couple of the rich ones.Then you have some that live in cardboard houses.The rest lives in squalor.
>>739829386What do you expect to be the difference? If they had power not much would change except for immigration and deportations. Like I said, some of them are literally leftistshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markus_Allard
>>739829140Epstein starting gamergate and 2016 election tourists is public knowledge too but you're epsteined... rip useless retard.
And the shills are really trying to derail the thread with the 'us verses them' tactic
>>739829408You live in literal cardboard boxes that rot in two decades or so when they don't spontaneously crumble, I lived in houses that have existed before America was even colonized.
>>739829483>gaslightingRabbi is getting desperate. And you still haven't made a single argument you low IQ retard>y-you're just misrepresenting meNo you really are stupid
>>739818104We're at war and all you care about is pestering officials with your stupid video games
>>739829603Leftist bootlickers now trying to attack gamergate againExcept epstein had nothing to do with it, he was busy donating to the Democrats while Maxwell was censoring reddit
>>739829554The average home in the US is nearly double the size of those in europe. Cope more shitstain
>>739829390Not for about 8 years now. Is this an attempt at whataboutism?
>>739829497>MASS IMMIGRATION How much has Europe's population increased in the last decade? 0.5%?
>>739821487I can't wait the gov to sue all those residential districts building new neighborhoods as golf courses so they don't have to build the obligatory cheap estate required by lawI can't wait for the president to punish that dude who made a law saying he can't get fined by the irs because
>>739818104>just wanting dedicated servers or a way to play offline>every thread turns into /pol/>somehow this is not wanting to own your gameslol
>>739829758It's not like state officials have anything to do with the war though, even if they might pretend otherwise. Hell, the federal congress and senate are barely involved either. The executive was able to just launch the current "operation" without their consent. Badgering state leaders about video game stuff is exactly what their there for.
>>739829471>world is worse than a century agoStupid fucking nigger, only the biggest of retards would say the 1920s were good in any shape or form.
>>739829646Its incredible how modern europoors havent figured out engineering when they did beforeI guess everyone with talent emmigrated to the states
>>739829758>We're at war you're supposed to have moved on by now, like the epstein filesanyway time to invade cuba
>>739829879>STOP NOTICING GOYIMNo. And what's your point bootlicker?
>>739819841How's the game dev going, maldavius?
>>739829981Trump released most of them tbf, after Biden tried so hard to hide them. But epstein was a Democrat after all
>>739829769>h-he had nothing to do with itHe made the frog it's mascot Everything you are was built by epstein It's why 95% of pol users left
>>739829940Welcome of the modern era of disinformation, where anything that gets voted on or done with any amount of government involvement even in the form of some extremely generic tax break or subsidy is met with angry people trying to make it an identity issue where you are either on their "team" or with the "enemy". Shit's retarded.
>>739830073Pepe wasnt even the mascot of gamergate you disgusting fucking shill
>>739830073Pepe predates gamergate you leftist retardEpstein was still a Democrat
>>739830137I feel bad for you Sunken cost fallacy over epstein /pol/
>>739829675See >>739829154Concession status: accepted.Have a nice day simpleton.
>>739830137>>739830264You can spam me all you want but everyone knows now who made you like you are
>>739829785Sure thing mutt.As if your people can afford that.
>>739818104>kills mmo's foreverbased
>>739830291See >>739829675Only a leftist retard would lose an argument this badly then try to claim to be the winner. And he stil didn't make an argument
>>739830337Anyone who was on /v/ knows youre blatantly lyingAt first I thought you were just retarded but now the lying is so blatant that its clear anon is right and you are jewish
>>739830337Epstein was a Democrat. If you vote for the Democrats then you fell for it again
>>739829975>from a country that hasn't even invented bricks yetkek
>>739830612>>739830689Post it again epstooner
>>739818821Reddit mods now at 4chan due to aids
>>739830816These jewish leftists really want to defend epstein for some reason
>>739822150Many pedophiles people live there *
>>739830371Americans are paid more and taxed less than europoors why wouldnt they afford it?You really dont understand just how much more of everything Americans have than you, you've never seen a successful country
>>739830927>your entire worldview was based on a pedo jews manipulation >double downSAD!
>>739830991You aren't even American are you
>>739831007I'm not a Democrat voter though? And epstein supported open borders and trans ideology, all things leftists believe in
>>739831169Actually he supported getting rich by manipulating retards
>>739818104Now it goes to the senate, currently heading to the Rules Committee
>>739831205Ahh, so leftists were just retards he appealed to to get rich. Makes sense, it's why the media always tries to appeal to leftists lol
>>739831058Born and raised, sorry to burst your bubbleMade $100k/yr 2 years out of undergrad and bought a 2200 square foot house at 27. Europoors could never
>>739827582>>739827631>>739827809more programlette deflecting
>Made $100k/yr 2 years out of undergrad and bought a 2200 square foot house at 27
>>739828539You joke but with the current administration heavily dipping into online gambling I could see a fucked up reality where they somehow make gambling part of SNAP benefits or some shit.
>>739819841>trying to misinterpret the pointShut up, ferret fucker
>>739831524No one successful brags over 100k a year, it's what poors and kids think is a great milestone
>>739831524I live in a Midwest city but nice copeHow terrible it must be to build new houses (with AC) for young families to afford, surely dilapidated commie blocks are much better
>>739831332No selfawareness-kun...
>>739831840Only half of American millenials own a house. I'm a yuropoor and even I have a house lol
>deliberate misinterpretation>"just vote with your wallet">"it's too hard actually">derailing with directionbrain shitAnd they're going to use the same arguments all over again next thread. At this point they're just trying to win the discourse by being too obnoxious to talk to.
>>739832068I'm perfectly happy with them "winning" the discourse if it means the legislation actually passes
>>739831797100k a year is way more than euros will earn deep into their career retard, thats the point. Utterly unremarkable salary in the US is highly desirable in europeObviously 2 years out of school my career wasnt anything special, the fact that Im was significantly out earning euros that early should be embarrassing for them, but they arent capable of introspection
>>739832068>At this point they're just trying to win the discourse by being too obnoxious to talk to.Their goal is to not talk, but derail all discussions on the topic.Take a step back and realize this is literally all these shills can do. They have no power left. The petition worked, the legislation passed. Their pathetic fearmongering wont do shit to change public opinion and everybody knows it.
>>739832291And then you look into how much you actually save and-wait, how much do you pay for rent? And are you insured?
>>739825343you monster, you deserve to burn in hell
Thank GOD!!! Kill live-service games. Honestly kill any form of online multiplayer unless it's for couch multiplayer games when people don't currently have someone to play with irl.
>>739825105The Jew's greatest trick was to make each side support one half of their agenda. The left support their social progressivism while the right supports their economic liberalism. That's why they were so afraid of National-Socialism: it was social conservatism combined with economic protectionism
>>739833009The left and right support both those things though, every left wing party supports immigration and corporations and every right wing party let's the media push woke shit
>>739832623>And then you look into how much you actually saveEnough for a downpayment on a house by 27>rent0 you fucking retard I said I bought a house. Its a mortgage. >insuredI had enough cash to get out from paying mortgage insurance, homeowners insurance paired with car insurance isnt a lot and health insurance through my job is like $100/month plus HSA contributions which are optional pre-tax investments It is really that easy>>739831925Most millenials are fucking retards that, despite having enough time to save pre covid, didnt take advantage of buying a house when prices and rates were super low during covid. No sympathy for anyone born before like '94 for missing the best time to buy
>>739832291Sure>crying about politics onb/v/ at 11 am
>>739830991Because your minimum wage is third world country tier.
>>739830991>US>successful countryI've been to New York and New Orleans.I'm glad I didn't have to pay for it because it was dissapointing for the "greatest nation on earth".
>>739826491>>739826556You’re only proving my point.Instead of saying why SKG is bad, you just call it Communism and State Control.You’re convincing people that Statism and Communism are good, because they support something good.
>>739831402Sure they could.They just get born into a wealthy family like you.
>>739832525I wish they were shills m8 they're just epstooners
>>739833569>EnoughFunny non-answer>Its a mortgageKek right the name for the jewish scam of paying rent for a house you supposedly "own". Only in muttland>I had enough cash to get out from paying mortgage insurance, homeowners insurance paired with car insurance isnt a lot All that blah blah blah, no numbers. How much do you pay for insurance?
>>739830991>Americans are paid more and taxed less than europoors why wouldnt they afford it?You get that statistic because it includes the 989 Billionaires living in the US inflating the average.About 54% to 70% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck.
>>739818934*illegal aliens
>>739834114Ass to ass
>>739820767Won't this still affect them? Maybe I need to reread the bill again but I know SKG itself has been focused on not just the entry price of a game but any microtransactions purchased for it as well.
>>739834114>because it includes the 989 Billionaires living in the US inflating the average.This. Reminder that the 0.1% of american oligarchs own 99% of the country's total wealth and are so, so disproportionately wealthy that mathematical models have to be told explicitly to not exclude them as outliers because they skew the average so much
>>739830991>You really dont understand just how much more of everything Americans have than you, you've never seen a successful countryI've been to Zurich, Dublin, Tokyo and Philadelphia. I know what a successful country looks like. Yours aint it. Farthest thing from it, in fact.
>>739833621Fridays are slow days>>739833674Do you make minimum wage? That sucks, cant relate because Im not retarded.>>739833861Nice cope. Unfortunately my boomer parents arent particularly wealthy and also made the mistake of selling my childhood home and renting, so the only way I was going to have property is buy it myself
>>739833812Jesus, the left can't meme
>>739828626Bro, the pattern in the western world for the last decade or two has basically been nationalist parties winning 49.9%, and then leftists and corporatists forming a 50.1% coalition to keep the 3rd world biomass flowing.
>>739834639>Do you make minimum wage?No, but this is the baseline all wages are going to be measured against and lets employers lowball the majority of the populace.I mean I can see you lack empathy and don't care if the majority of your countrymen live in shit tier conditions as long as you stand above them. But they still do count if you talk about "averages".
>>739834732The original was about /b/tards
>>739834836>lets employers lowball the majority of the populace.That lowball being significantly higher than europe for any professional job? Do you think I should be making 200k and mog europoors harder? As nice as that would be its not very realistic without rampant inflation>majority of your countrymenMexicans and blacks are not my countrymenI have plenty of sympathy for heartland Americans who's industry was destroyed and offshored, and will always support protectionist policies. Pumping minimum wage and over regulation do the opposite by making offshoring even more effective
>>739834753Trump
>>739832068I think that Hitler guy said something about that once.
>>739829270>we need to stream texture to you>no we can't just put them in a folder in your game that's outdate
>>739833569It took you 6 years to save for a DOWNPAYMENT for a house?Bro I bought a house in like 5 years in europe. Good location, not big by us standards I'd assume but still.
>>739835683>That lowball being significantly higher than europe for any professional job?>countries like Germany and France maintain statutory minimum wages that exceed $13-$15 per hour when converted to USD.Kek. That was easy.
>>739835040Then leftists took it and made a "no u". Because the left can't meme or make an argument
>>739836061Where and what's the size?Housing prices in any major country are fairly similar right now, not like Germany or the UK (or Canada/Australia for that matter) are much cheaper than the US so I can only assume youre in some shithole.
>>739835683>That lowball being significantly higher than europe for any professional job?Sure it sounds nice on paper, but it also mean you have to pay outrageous sums for everything basic europeans take for granted. Not that great once you compare everything.But sure, being upper middle class in both the US and Europe is on par, being rich is probably better in the US, being lower middle class or working class is better in the EU.
>>739836378Working class in the EU pay far higher taxes and have no rights, the only advantage is Europe didn't have as many immigrants
People actually watch youtube shorts? I tried tiktok and it was a bit scary how accurately it was able to guess my interests and show me videos I actually liked but with youtube shorts I can scroll for an hour and it's just slop after slop after slop. Also EVERY FUCKING SHORT has those retarded subtitles right in the middle of the fucking screen for no reason. Even if the subject matter of the short is interesting it makes me not want to watch it because of that obnoxious shit staining the screen. Even worse when the subtitles are one word at a time. Who fucking thought of that crap?
>>739833569You Americans are crazy, on Mexico I brought the house close to a store and train station. Slowly turning it into solar powered so i can be free of the monopoly of CFE, it’s you Americans who are falling behind.
>>739818659There's a reason why everyone cheers when jannies get doxxed>vnr
>>739819484The vast majority of people are not going to refund a game they played 2 years ago just because the servers are now shut down. They probably wouldn't even notice because they've moved on to other games.
>>739836090>cant read the word professionalEuropoor education lolNon minimum wage careers in the US pay more than their equivalent in europe, so how are Americans getting lowballed?>>739836378>you have to pay outrageous sums for everything basic europeans take for granted.NopeTake home income after health insurance is still higher in the US, prices on most things are comparable between first world countries (so not shit like Portugal or slav land)>But sure, being upper middle class in both the US and Europe is on parLmao no. Not even close. >working classIf you mean blue collar then maybe non-union, but thats just maybe. Regular college educated workers fly past their European equivalent. So its basically just shitty retail and non workers who leech better in europe. Not really a win
>>739836981China pays more btw
>>739836845Nobody wants to live in Mexico, thats why your people keep flooding into this country
>>739836981>Not real professions!lmao. Doubly so since you're most definitely a trademonkey that never went to college>Non minimum wage careers in the US pay more than their equivalent in europeSuch as...?Go on mutt, give me some examples so I can btfo you again
>>739836607>Working class in the EU pay far higher taxesSo?The majority of them doesn't end up paycheck-to-paycheck and have a higher quality of live due to all the services taxes provide us.>no rightsBlatantly wrong.What rights does the US have except stuff related to firearms and using them?
California is the 4th-largest economy in the world and retarded right-wingers still call it "Commie-fornia" just because they get laughed at for wearing Trump hats in public there
>>739836981You are welcome to remain ignorant in your gilded cage if it makes you happy. That's what your government wants after all.
>>739837045Now the opposite is happening, how does it feel bitch. No one wants American products anymore, no one will travel to America FIFA, USD below Europe, gas at $8 or more, kids dying and leaders who are corrupted.You became the very thing you hate.
>>739837187>Doubly so since you're most definitely a trademonkey that never went to collegeWrong again but keep the cope going>Such as...?Engineer, Nurse, Doctor, Lawyer, Codemonkeys, Scientist>btfo you againYoure imagining things
>>739837481>kids dying and leaders who are corruptedSo the past 2,000 years? Riveting commentary, anon.
>>739837481>now the opposite is happeningIn what world you retarded shitskinWe have to drag the beaners out by force because they dont want to go back to Mexico so badly>nobody going to FIFAInsane that browns really think people give a shit about soccer lmao
>>739837614>Wrong again but keep the cope goingSo how are those student loans....?Oh sorry, did I touch a nerve? Dont backtrack now lol
>>739837481Beaner, trying to talk shit when drug cartels run you country, lol.
>>739837668Your leaders are creating a MMA fight ring in the White House. That’s not normal, if anything you people are officially insane.
>>739836782Lots of people watch both, but the people I know IRL who exclusively watch youtube shorts do so because they think TikTok is unamerican.I don't use either because short-form video is fucking cancer.
I am angry that California is beating the EU to a SKG win.But I am happy that this is getting so much traction.
>>739837614>Engineer [...] Codemonkeys, ScientistDidn't Elon loosen some laws so he could import them from India for cheap, so he doens't have to hire expensive americans?Complaints about unemployment and low-balling in those fields have skyrocketed in recent years.
>>739837481>Now the opposite is happening Lol we wish, ICE has to drag you shitskins out by force, because they don't want to go back to Mexico.
>>739837397Actually most working class people in Europe do love paycheck to paycheck, you're a rich, idiot liberalAnd freedom of speech for a start, the German leader has arrested hundreds for making fun of him on twitter
I haven't been following this at all, is this just about developers killing servers or delists as well? You can't expect some developers to keep up servers forever but I agree they should just change them to peer to peer when they've had enough. Delists are the more pressing issues considering that affects single player games as well.
>>739837740>implying he has a higher education than highschool
>>739837997Why do bootlickers keep stealing right-wing memes? Why would a chad support a communist group of faggots?
>>739837740My loans are obviously fine if I managed to save enough for a houseI could liquidate my investments and pay them off right now but my interest rates arent high enough for that to be worth it
But I thought california was le bad....
>>739838038>Actually most working class people in Europe do love paycheck to paycheckWrong.>And freedom of speech for a startAlso wrong.>German leader has arrested hundreds for making fun of him on twitterSource? Other than your ass?
>>739838101And that's why you're a pedophile?
>>739838148>no argumentsTypical low IQ bootlicker
>>739838172>no uEpstein was a Democrat, and the EU is defending pedos
>>739838148>pretending europoors have free speechlmao did you come from reddit?
>>739838076You're a leftist so he's probably still smarter than you either way
>>739838346Rightists have lost the plot
>>739838235And that's why you're a brainwashed pedophile in a cult? The Democrats made you do it?
> 200 posts later, subhumans were still unable to read the bill text
>>739838125>My loans are obviously fine if I managed to save enough for a houseIt's just funny you didnt mention or include them in your earlier assessments. Almost as if they didnt exist for your larp to work. Of course if they're so "obviously fine" you shouldnt have any problem including them in your earlier numbers.
>>739838386If games aren't live service shit anymore after the bill passes I don't care what it says desu
>>739838131It still is, just because California does one thing right doesn't make up for all the other bullshit they brought upon America.
>>739838383>>739838376What's with all these leftist pedos defending Democrat Epstein?
>>739838442It's pushing to eliminate the subscription based paid games in favour of actual F2P . You asked for it :-)
>>739838546You're alone
>>739838006>so he doens't have to hire expensive americans?So is this conceding that Americans are paid well?>Complaints about unemployment and low-balling in those fields have skyrocketed in recent years.Codemonkeys specifically but thats because they think they should be paid 170k for something you can learn in a 4 week bootcamp, because FAANG companies were paying that much before for no justifiable reasonBut also I dont respect code monkeys, I just know they still get paid better in the states
>>739838175>arguing wrong claims easily disproven if the dumbass american checked wikipedia or googleFor what purpose?It's not my job to educate you when your system failed.It's basic courtesy to look up easily verifiable facts before engaging in discussion about the topic.The failure is on you.
>>739838038>Actually most working class people in Europe do love paycheck to paycheckThe lowest estimate of people in America living PC2PC is 54%The highest estimate of people in all of Europe (including the shithole countries) is 50%.Even when you give America the benefit of the doubt, Europe is far more prosperous.Btw the highest estimates for America is 70% and lowest for Europe is 43% (lower when you go to those “socialist” countries like Norway or Denmark).
>>739838238>pretending they dontAmericna education everyone.
>>739838028Your ICE police kidnapped a American civilian child and died while on custody. That never happens anywhere else. Stop defending yourself from the crimes you are allowing to happen.
>>739838346Oh yeah? I see no evidence of that.
Republicans corporation worship is so fucking retarded. It's literally the reason they're all deplatformed everywhere now.
>>739838546So you have no agency over your actions? The Democrats made you join a pedophile cult?
>>739838804What claim was wrong, bootlicker?
>>739838740Are you pretending to be dumb? These specialist jobs are paid well everywhere in western countries.
>>739839031>>739838954Leftist pedo is still seething that epstein is a Democrat
>>739839128The ones where I said "wrong", duh.Bootlick whom?Your sperging out makes little sense.
>>739839198So how did you let a Democrat brainwash you into joining a pedophile cult, then? Embarrassing that you would admit that.
>>739838238>>739838879Either have Free Speech.You’re not allowed to deny the Holocaust in most Euro countries, and you’re so much as criticizing Israel means you’re labelled a terrorist and will be fired from your job.Free Speech doesn’t actually exist anyways.
>>739839282>you’re so much as criticizing Israel means you’re labelled a terrorist and will be fired from your job.What's the difference to the US?People got fired for making fun or Charlie Kirks death too.
>>739838820Norway and Denmark aren't socialist, North Korea is.America has a slightly higher rate of poverty because America has a higher rate of immigration, Europe is quickly catching up, on top of that America is actually trying to take action against it while the left in Europe are only getting worse
>>739839282Didn't America just arrest someone for posting "8647" on social media?
>>739839282America does have free speech though, Europe doesn't. No US President has ever acted the way the current German leader is, another politician in Denmark is in trouble for citing statistics when talking about immigration
>>739837668>>739837735>>739837751>>739838028thanks for the ez (yous) btw
>>739839370>people got firedThe left invented cancel culture, the right eventually did it back, which they should have done sooner tbfThats not a free speech issue, as said by leftists themselves
>>739824296Which is why all commifornians are moving in there?
>>739839708>The left invented cancel cultureNo they didn't, the right invented it after 9/11
>>739839381That’s why I said “socialist” and not socialist.Lolberts love to call every country that inconviences companies commmunism/socialist what have you.
>>739839708>Thats not a free speech issue, as said by leftists themselvesWell what is it now? You can't claim it's not a free speech issue, while simultaniously saying Europe doesn't have free speech because the same happens there.
>>739838897The UK literally just got a guy killed because the cops let him bleed to death because his attacker called him a racist.
>>739838439I didnt include all of my expenses, does that matter? After my loans, and housing, and utilities and food and luxuries I still made enough to save enough to get a house>Almost as if they didnt exist for your larp to work.You really dont understand how embarassing it is to not be able to believe someone could make 100k early in their career and buy a house in their late 20s. This isnt something crazy like 300k a year starting or I founded a company and sold it or any shit. This is just that a basic professional job in America can pay 6 figures and you can save for a couple years to get a house
>>739839958>drunk retarded 18yo race mixer is racist and punches off a guy's turban>gets heem'd Actions have consequences
>>739840375>literally no proof of any racist interaction, just the bleating of the stabber and his brother
>>739840605Yeah im sure he got stabbed for literally no reason ;)Trash removed, guy looked like a retard
>>739839958>American cop killed a man and son for mistaken toy gun.Shut up anon, your are not any better
>>739840759People being stabbed to death for literally no reason is a pretty standard methodology, yeah.
>>739818934You could make this exact image but change immigrants to violent criminals and it would still be accurate
>>739840605Also lol>post in this very thread racism is cool>guy gets killed for being racist >h-he wasn't racist actually
>>739841216Anon you’re hallucinating. Again.
>>739828863>centristThere are two sides: plutocrats and everybody else. I seriously hope you don't think the team-colored plutocrats are on your side just because of what opinions they've had written into their speeches.
>>739841270Ok. I hope you scream SAAAARR at an Indian guy on the street too.
>>739841731It’s amazing you have to run preemptive shielding for violent immigrant populations, but I don’t think India is the one people commonly cite.
>>739839279The election tourist is projecting, like they always do, not only was epstein was a republican but trump was his direct partner is organizing the global sex trafficking ring, which is the sole reason why the Epstein list si still be illegally covered up by trump.Plus as we all know, epstein created /pol/ so all the election tourists are pedos are well, but they'll blame everyone but their own leaders.This is why they're furious about SKGs and why you see them lashing out.
>>739841803Then why bring up a guy antagonizing an Indian guy and dying for it? Epstoon taught you poorly.
