How come the industry experts are more clueless than /v/ about what gamers wanna buy on steam?
I don't even play games. I doubt I know anything at all.
>>739824107Played it, it was relaxing, until I started trying to optimise it and realised throwing every book with a white cover into a big pile, then picking them all up and tossing anything that didn't match was the fastest way to level up, and once you do you should take about 5 points in the third magic (see all alike books), 1-1, 1-2, and then spam everything into the last magic (collect all books) before rounding off with everything into the fourth one.
>>739824457Why does a librarian simulator have a levelling system
>>739824107I'm a big time buyer of books and comics and I love arranging my library into new configurations. It's deeply satisfying.
I'm only interested in linear action games or what you might regard as a movie game. What would you call Resident Evil 9 and Pragmata. Are they movie games?
>>739824543If I had to guess it's to represent the tard mage apprentice that was assigned the job (i.e. (You)) getting better/stealing/learning library based magic so they're not stuck there the rest of the day.If you mean mechanically, it's so you can feel like you're progressing and getting better at the game (you're not they're just giving you more training wheels to make it easier as time goes by).Please note this is entirely optional. If you want to do it by hand without touching any magic or chest items, you can.
>>739824543Because it's a magic library and you lean magic
>>739824107People here throw a shitfit every time they see a cardbattler roguelike, so I think everybody is out of touch of what people would play.
>>739824936>The same people that didn't like generic milwank FPS like cawwadoody don't like generic card-rogueslop like StS
>>739824543>Librarian Isekai: Weakest Class Has Strongest Skills>Strongest skills are for dealing with homeless people>Demon King "invading" from another world is technically homeless>Turns out to be a Demon Queen>MC uses skills and vast knowledge to help her build a small kingdomThe anime close to this is "I'm Quitting Heroing: Next Gig Is at the Demon Queen's Castle"
>>739824457See, that's why I start with a no magic run. It's very relaxing, and a really nice vibe to just hunt for the books you want. I still started with white books because they stand out the most.
>>739825072>MY SLOP IS ACTUALLY GOURMET ART!!!
>>739824107strangely compelling game. after finishing the library once just doing it my own way (which took 12 hours) I felt I had to 100% it by getting the "stack all shelves but get no shelf correct", "stack all shelves correctly without using magic" and "stack all shelves correctly in under 3 hours" achievements.I still think about it
>niggas will play this library game for 50 hours while their room looks like this
>>739825368>my room when I have no room
>>739825368There's actually a book series in the game calling this out
>>739824107Because they’re not experts, just obnoxious retards that present themselves as such.
>>739825628>Because they’re not experts, just obnoxious retardsHow does this distinguish them from /v/?
>>739824107The problem is half of the "gamers" are just looking for something to waste their life on. Like they have no friends or hobbies and they just want a game to play every single hour of every single day.These are also the people willing to spend thousands of dollars on microtransactions. Capitalism insists that the industry cater to these types. There's no sense being mad about it.
>Mein Kampf modwhen
>>739824107Because the "experts" are rich nepobabies who never needed to think for themselvesWe saw that during covid
>>739824107>top-sellerThat would be 007™ First Light™! Available now on Steam!Own the chuds by experiencing a James Bond adventure that isn't problematic!
>>739824107I hate this so much. I'm so tired of "cozy" games and work simulators, so tired of games that ask the same dumb question of "What if you WEREN'T the hero???". It's the most pointless gimmicky shit ever. These games aren't even meant to be played just act as a mindless stimming toy for the ADHD retards it attracts.
>>739824107can't you do this in real life and actually get paid?
>>739825731Because no one here claims to be an expert and people here end up being right a good portion of the time.
>>739826427It's actually the new forza but go off sis
>>739826427Shill post
>>739826487It's a coping mechanism for millennials that never achieved anything in life. Kinda like how troons can't see an attractive woman in a video game without freaking out because it reminds them of what they will never be; millennials see a strong hero saving the day and it reminds them of what they will never be.
>>739826763Literally no one talked about this, but you couldn't help yourself with your cock obsession, huh
>>739826487Sometimes something simple and everyday feeling is relaxing to play and that’s all you need.
>>739826713Nah that's an anti-shill post. Ironic shilling to taint the rest of the marketing.
>>739826967>gets called out for shilling>a-actually it’s a false flag to make us- er I mean shills look bad it’s ironicKill yourself jamboy.
>>739826910>Restate your point in less offensive termsNo.
>>739827058I'm actually asking you to post about the topic at hands instead of your personal obsessioin with trannies. Is that possible for you? Is there still room in your head for genuine discussion about video fucking games? Or is TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIES all that's left?
>>739827053Nigger do you actually think a shill would come in here praising Brand TM in exactly that manner? If that doesn't fire off a neuron saying "this is taking the piss" you might want to get your head checked.
>>739827149>Don't use a pertinent example because I find it VERY offensiveAsk politely and I'll consider it :)
>>739827193If I wanted to shill on 4chan, that's how I'd do it. Ironic attention is still attention, the goal is to get you to talk about product, so product has a bigger place in your brain.>>739827269Kill yourself
>>739827371>Ironic attention is still attentionThat worked out great for Morbius. And Concord. I'd mention more but I've forgotten about the other flops that got ironic attention.
I remember when a game about checking people's paperwork was all the rage
>>739827371>Kill yourselfhow rude D:<
>>739826487Sometimes it's not about saving the world, but rather making the world a place worth saving.
>>739827519Concord only got attention for being a failure, of course that won't work. It was actually a big part of why it failed so spectaculary, no one was talking about it.And yeah, Morbius was funny, but it won't invalidate a massive industry that very successfully gets people to buy product by putting names in front of faces as much and often as possible. Shit works. It's not magic, it can't save a Morbius or a Concord, but overall it works.
>>739824543are you implying that librarians don't level up with age
>>739824107I looked up it takes to become a librarian and it seems like absolute horse-shit that they want an advanced degree. Are there any library-bros that can confirm or deny their job of sorting returns and organizing community events would need something like that?
>>739827739I think you're putting too much value into the old adage "any publicity is good publicity", frankly.
>>739825368I work at a library and am no different
>>739827965You need a degree to be an actual librarian but not everybody working at the library is a librarian.Well unless you're some big center of the city library I guess.
>>739824936>cardbattler roguelikeThose two things are the shittiest genres ever invented in videogames, and fucking soulstrash is up at the top too.
>>739828172>You need a degree to be an actual librarianlol fucking whyIt's just sorting books
>>739828967A proper library has more than just the public facing bookshelves. So yeah, you don't need a librarian for a smalltown library that actually doesn't do anything else, but a proper library also has old manuscripts to take care of and is a research center and archive.
>>739828172You know, me mum wanted me to become a librarian because it was a stable government job that doesnt need you to interact with people, but I chose not to because I need a job that would allow me to be valuable even if society collapsed.No warlord's gonna keep a librarian around, your know. They'll keep the books. But the librarian is useless
>>739828967you'll parse what he's saying better if you read "librarian" as archivist
>>739829378>No warlord's gonna keep a librarian around, your know.Historically speaking, most warlords were eccentrics who used their position to become deeply invested in frivolities. A literature care specialist is slightly more sane than say, Castro's massive spending on dairy science, or Nobunaga's procession of buddhist acolyte rent-boys.
>>739826487>These games aren't even meant to be played just act as a mindless stimming toy for the ADHD retards it attracts.a game where you have zero stimulation and a single seemingly endless task is the fucking opposite of ADHD friendly
>>739829378what use is a book if you don't know where it is or how to find it?
>>739824107Another riveting pc gaming exclusive to go along with cvckhold simWill consoles ever stop losing?
>>739831763it's not if you do something else while playing. zoomgroids can't focus on one thing so they play games like this while watching a streamer or listening to a podcast or something.
>>739831763That's just autism
This was funBut the books are only a few hundred, with 10 volumes each for most.I don't understand why the dev didn't just use AI to generate the book names, it's like the one case where it would do a really good job. Hell he could even write the books...
>>739824107PC gamers are subhuman. Analysts gave them too much credit. Every time some low effort, meme slop game is selling well, it’s almost guaranteed that it’s mostly being bought by steam troonies.
>>739829378>but I chose not to because I need a job that would allow me to be valuable even if society collapsed.What is it that makes people develop this mentality? Is it a third-world thing? Do you need to spend all your life living under the jackboot of one terrible regime or another to justify your inability to get a white-collar job with "well society might collapse so I couldn't possibly get this stable and comfortable job"?
>>739834224Because the anti-AI mob iis ready and waitingAnd yeah, I get it. Why would I pay for your work if you didn't do the work?
>>739834224>I don't understand why the dev didn't just use AI to generate the book namesyeah because books with titles like Enciopadie or whatever the hallucination chatbot would shitsout would be so much better... retard
>>739834431>muh anit-AI boogeyman mobmeaning regular people with a modicule of taste? waow!!
>>739834224part of the game's appeal once you get into it is all the funny book names.the AI wouldnt get it and the book names would be far more bland.
>>739834439It's been a few years since that phase, it's scary good at text gen now.I specifically brought up AI because for silly stories with almost no particular requirement it's pretty much perfect now.
>>739826487Okay then don’t play it dummy.
>>739834557No, that's a separate group. The AI mob is the group that doesn't care if it's good. They just hate it for being AI made.
>>739824107Because from the top down not a single person in the industry is actually a gamer. All the dad gamers who use to make actually good games retired LONG ago or got push out of the industry by some stupid activist bullshit. Now we're stuck purely with the children of Anita
>>739824107Make it so that you play as a barely clothed elvish girl that can be seen in third person and you have a jackpot.
>>739834224>I don't understand why the dev didn't just use AI to generate the book namesProof they didn't?
>>739834631nah it still sucks and fails miserably at creating a kindergarden tier A for Alligator, B for Bear etc. poster
>>739824107>what gamers wanna buy on steam?theres like 2K games released every monthinitial traction, marketing, word of mouth and most importantly algorithm luck (everyone is gaming it) are more important than whatever you think "gamers" are searching for. There isn't any decisive way to make a top selling game. Playing captain hindsight on a game's qualities is useless.
>>739834736granted, the elf is morbidly obese because she's a librarian that just sits around all day
>>739834661>doesn't care if it's goodhas there ever been a good AI generated anything in the first place?
>>739834780Oh, I meant just the text.I know image gen is still pretty bad.
the game does use gen ai for paintings
>>739834841Yes.You just can't tell anymore. AI generation is really fucking good now. You can still spot it on those comparison sites, but that's when you're already primed to look for it. Normally, you won't even notice.
>>739834841its good at breaking your code!
>>739834956let's see one (1) example
>>739824107>industry expertsYou have to think of them as sports "commentators". They're people who watch but don't play nor create. They simply watch and give their opinion. In many cases, they're there because they couldn't get other jobs and often merely to promote the narrative.
>>739826487>>739826487It's the Netflix background show meme but for games.
>>739824107>the stupid retards that said 007 would flop>forza would flop>crimson desert would flop>etc
>>739835187To play sports at the level the commentator is commenting upon, requires rare skills and great sacrifices. To play a video game a game journo is giving his opinions about requires tens of hours of an activity nobody considers actial work.
>>739824457>play game>have fun>start to minmax>instantly hate the game because playing it normally feels like you're actively fucking yourself and the minmax strat is annoying as fuck
>>739835612>If the sportsball team scores here then it will be a single score game.>Yeah and with only five minutes to go it will mean there's enough time for the other sportball team to make a comeback>That's right if they score here it will completely change the dynamic of the rest of the game.
>>739835056>No replyCurious
>>739827193>do you actually think a shill would come in here praising Brand TM in exactly that mannerYes, now eat shit and die
>>739824457I'd unironically recommend being a librarian if it wasn't antagonistic to straight white males. This is not a meme, every library I've ever worked in or been in has the same problem. It's a real shame since working with databases and information cross-referencing really tickles that autistic part of my brain.
>>739837824Here's a quote from a joke ai-rewritten bible.That's from like 2 years ago.
>>739824457>optimiseSolved problem:https://youtu.be/WaNLJf8xzC4https://youtu.be/kPRA0W1kECg
>>739826568The krauts would know
>>739824107This is just another game like power wash simulatorNo big publisher is going to give these any kind of budget and they don't need them
>>739824107This is a game for women. They love neurotic shit like this.
>>739824107There are many different kinds of gamers with different tastes and the vast majority never post on /v/.
>>739839912In what way is it neurotic?
>>739824107>The strongest archmage is obsessed with me, the girl with no magic!I wonder what Tolkien would say if he had to come to life and spend a few hours reading this Trilogy
>>739840220he might be a jeet thats used to living in the trash and cant handle a nice and tidy space
Is this game worth playing?
>>739838532It's odd how rare it is for men to do the job. I assume that women tend to do the front-facing aspects of the job, like tidying the shelves and manning the desk, and I assume all the men are at some central hub for some multiple county database being autistic in a backroom.I looked into becoming a librarian myself once, but it said you need a master's in Library Science, which was such obvious rent-seeking bullshit.
>>739842572>master’s in library science“What are you majoring in?”“Being vibe checked.”
>>739842572>Library Science Any field that doesnt use scientific method as their primary source of development isnt science. Not saying fields such as these cant be science, just that them pretending to be shows they are desperate for legitimacy they fear they wouldnt have otherwise.
>>739844279fuck, wrong thread...
>>739824107>Game literally starts playing itself once you get like 5 minutes inThis shit is like someone trying to cash in on shit like powerwasher or the other cleaning game and not actually knowing what makes those good. It's like if someone went to one of those seminars about "game design" and heard about incrementation and progression and feel-good feedback and put it all in without actually thinking about the game itself.The game just gets easier and easier and easier until it ends and then nothing really happens.
>>739844646you could just not use the spellsthere's a whole achievement for finishing it without using any major magic
>>739844784Yeah, but that's the thing. It's just exacerbating the problem. There's no difference between going with or without besides the amount of time you dedicate to a complete time waste. And as a time waste, it's gotta be one of the worst. There are tons of games with this exact same premise that manage to make it interesting. Make it fun. But what this game does to "spice things up" is ask you if you want to do it in 2 hours or 8 hours.
