... It was pretty good, I guess
>try esoteric ebb after seeing it mentioned in last thread>5 minutes in i'm violently disliking iti'll try again later but boy i hope it gets better
>May 21174 Positive (73%) vs 64 Negative (27%) (73% Positive Total)>May 22126 Positive (75%) vs 42 Negative (25%) (74% Positive)>May 23121 Positive (76%) vs 39 Negative (24%) (74% Positive)>May 24112 Positive (80%) vs 28 Negative (20%) (75% Positive)>May 2584 Positive (82%) vs 19 Negative (18%) (76% Positive)>May 2670 Positive (81%) vs 16 Negative (19%) (77% Positive)>May 2771 Positive (91%) vs 7 Negative (9%) (78% Positive)>May 2866 Positive (87%) vs 10 Negative (13%) (79% Positive)Three more days at most and it will have the same rating as Disco Elysium. Deservedly so, too.Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7GGWki0Yws
>>739842527It's the most reddit of the Disco-likes, but I definitely think it's worth a play for its D&D elements. Not just story-wise, but mechanically.
>Look at patch notes>They made it so that you can endlessly trade cigarettes with the trade monkey.Cringe. They should have just added in a few more clothing apparel that the monkey accepts.
>>739842330It wasn't as good as DE but it was never going to be. The idea that it would even be any good at all after all that shit went down was unlikely at best, so the fact that it was pretty decent in the end is probably a win for what's left of the studio. I wouldn't have paid any more than it cost for it but I had fun with it and I'll probably buy the next thing they make.
>>739842535>Ignore drama>Just release a good gameSimple as
>>739842330>>739842851More satisfying finale than DE btw
>>739842976i played disco only once because I felt like all my decisions and outcomes good or bad paid off in a satisfying way narrativelyWith zero parades i felt like I missed a ton of shit
>>739842976It was better resolution to the plot, but because of the Plasmid and the dream sequence Disco Elysium ending was more emotional and memorable. I think that if they gave more space and attention to the deaths of your party members Zero Parades ending could have been better overall
>>739842527Whats are your main stats?
>>739842330>>739842535Did Kurvitz or other succesor teams gave public statements about Zero Parades already?
>>739843604i went con dex and wis but I don't think it played much since i closed the game basically as soon as I was able to walk aroundthe start was a non stop barrage of ALL the stats yapping as written by someone who has no literary talent whatsoever
>>739843858>dex and wis Lol, lmao evenYou can't make faggier character than this
>>739843858I'm pretty sure not taking strength in that game is just pointless because it's the most entertaining stat by far. That and intelligence. Also make sure you don't miss the meeting with the Coinlord on day 1 because you will literally softlock yourself for the rest of the game.
Burned out in the haze of it allLong distance callsTapping the phone like a snare drumLying at the foot of the bedRoom turning redNo mess of lullabies hummingThere's no checkpoint bluesI got no backroom groovesOh, come on, honeyWe'll take off running in ourPARTY SHOOOOOESALL THAT I HEAR LATELYIS MY SUPERBLOC, BABYCOLD OR HOTTHE WORLD COULD STOP FOR UUUUUSAND THEY TRY TO REGULATE MEBUT IT'S ALL SUPERBLOC, BABYCOLD OR HOTTHE WORLD COULD STOP......AT THE VERY THOUGHT OF UUUUUUUUUUSOh man, feels like I've been here beforeA thousand doorsTo a thousand rooms that all look the sameTake me to your people's squareCarnations in your hairDid you get to keep your name, ohHeadlines censor the newsOnline on the latest coupsThe bad luck, honeySpent all my money on thoseUNION JEEEWWWSALL THAT I HEAR LATELYIS MY SUPERBLOC, BABYCOLD OR HOTTHE WORLD COULD STOP FOR UUUUUSAND THEY TRY TO REGULATE MEBUT IT'S ALL SUPERBLOC, BABYCOLD OR HOTTHE WORLD COULD STOP......AT THE VERY THOUGHT OF UUUUUUUUUUS(MEET ME AT THE BORDER, HONEY!)(DON'T CARE IF THEY SHOOT ME DOWN!)ALL THAT I HEAR LATELYIS MY SUPERBLOC, BABYC-C-COLD OR HOTTHE WORLD COULD STOP FOR UUUUUSAND THEY TRY TO REGULATE MEBUT IT'S ALL SUPERBLOC, BABYCOLD OR HOTTHE WORLD COULD STOP.........
>>739844338Yeah, I read the stats carefully and went exactly with strength and intelligence. Liked that character I made a lot. Guess I got lucky.And I didn't meet the coinlord, but you can just meet the angel at day and get the key.
>>739844565>but you can just meet the angel at day and get the key.nigger where, I dropped the game because of not being able to sleep
>>739843858Esoteric ebb is specific and not everyone will like it, but speaking as someone that actually loves the game if i picked WIS as my starting stat i would have dropped it and considered it most reddit game i have ever played
>>739844457>Spent all my money on those>UNION JEEEWWWSkek
>>739844457I just wish audio mixing was better during this scene
>>739844595HereI remember it vividly>First day, didn't meet the coinlord, "slept" through the mysterious oddity that the fisherman talked about>Second day, didn't see the coinlord, couldn't sleep, thought I had softlocked myself>Third day, talked to the angel here, got the keyAnd this was pre-patches, mind you. Though I had to patch the game later to fix the cleric not waking up on day 4
And since I posted an off-topic Esoteric Ebb screenshot, have a Dead Spies screenshot to make up for it
>>739842601>It's the most reddit of the Disco-likesIn a literal sense too, it sometimes read like reddit comments trying their hardest to be funny using tired out jokes and memes
lol
>>739845125>trying their hardest to be funny using tired out jokes and memesAs someone that plays tabletop games, this part is accurate to something that happens during a game
I read Kengan so I can't take the plot seriously at all.
Advanced maneuvers are a bullshit plot device and i love them
esoteric ebb felt like discworld
>>739845483I wish. Way too reddit to be Discworld, unfortunately. Still, it had its moments. I liked it overall.
I played EE waiting for the ZP patch to arrive so I can get over the kibble and its been pretty goodI dont retain huge amount of the written word tho, voice acting would help.
>>739845472Have you done hauzmann quest already? When you have shit like that your setting MK-Ultra spells fit the game perfectly
>>739845042If every codename is at least somewhat connected to personality or abilities of the operative why the fuck is he called house man?
>>739846340Apparently it's a German term for "househusband", so a butler, for example. Fits.
WE DID IT, REDDITALL THAT I HEAR LATELY, IS MY SUPERBLOC, BABY
>>739842330It was solid. The actual quality of the prose is much higher in ZP than in DE, although it's so grandiloquent that ESLs might get completely lost, especially whenever HOLOCENE's involved.
>>739846563I wonder what people say to make a review negative in generalthe game stands pretty tall in its genre
>>739846690>>739845292
>>739846690Even the professional reviews are upset about ZA/UM. Here there's another nonsensical complaint about the game not being a good spy game because the tranny in question made choices that revealed CASCADE as a spy repeatedly. Remember, you don't dislike journos enough.
>>739842330I cannot stand her voice
>>739846879Ok, but it's genuinely bullshit that by exploring the game's area, you just get a camera sprang on you with Bagman and your face shown to the world and all your dialogue options are you admitting you're a spy. I'm glad the game didn't mention that shit at all after that scene.
Apology Tour condition should've been relegated to default reminiscing Cascade could've just performed in the wild. So much character of the crew to hide.
>>739847183The flashbacks only show up if you have it on? Neat.By the way, what does the communism inventory thought do? I didn't try it.
>>739847039I couldnt enter there untill i have been mugged, and during the mugging you get the bag you can use to hide your identity, and the game does acknowledge that if you wear it during this conversation. Its not much but im glad its possible
I... am... a... SOCK IMPORTER!!!!!!Damn it felt good to get through the torture. So long time between saves on that shit.
>>739846960the mc is unvoicedthe narrator is english, prob because the studio is partially set in england
>You can't bring your crew along, the boat isn't big enough>Ending scene has you on the boat>It clearly could fit 3 more people thereFuck you, Opera
>>739847183i never equipped it and had this flashback and a ton of others
>>739847376I remember my interrogator saying that I'm not bad, but not great either at the end of my scene. I wonder if there's a way to truly impress her if you do all the right options.
I don't really want to support this game if it isn't by Kurvitz. If it's worth checking out then I'll pirate it at least.
>>739847573>>739847376>tfw didnt get to see this since my shadowplay let me just run away
>>739847658why do you people obsess over a single persongames are made by huge teams
>>739847658I supported it cause I want more Disco-likes and Kurvitz is gonna take at least another 3 years before he releases his, bare minimum
>>739847662Holy kinoAnd apparently you can just sneak by without even meeting the newspaper crew, though I didn't do that because shadowplay told me to go in naturally. She fucked me.
woke sloppa
>>739845292>https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199089949244/recommended/2863680/kek. I read this review, checked the dude's achievements, and he only did the bare minimum to get to the end of the game. Didn't get to either Ramses or HOLOCENE, and he didn't even internalize a thought, which you can do 20 minutes into the game. Then you look at all the awards and comments the review has and it's clear people just want confirmation bias and validation for their ZA/UM hatred.It will never not be funny that supposed Disco Elysium fans behave this way.
>>739847512Then maybe I'm calling it the wrong name. But I'm 100% sure they only pop up if you equip a condition about crew memories. I literally only see them with it equipped.
>>739847573She told me I was very good. I pretty much let my faculties lead me through the process. Telling me when to lie and when to tell the truth to confuse her. Managed to reverse the thing and get some info out of her as well as a thought.
>>739847658Be thankful kikestarter is effectively dead so Kurvitz couldn't scam money out of your hands to make garbage delayed multiple times.
>>739847780WokeGEM>>739847810I kinda get it. If you're a huge fan of Disco Elysium, you're gonna be butthurt that this game exists and is a monument to Disco Elysium 2 not getting made.Me, personally, though, I see the split as a blessing in disguise. More Discolikes and Kurvitz working on something that will probably more interesting than Disco Elysium 2 would have been.
>>739847810should needs to enforce a "no mention of other games" rule for the user reviews
>>739847775who the fuck is the newspaper crew
>>739847857>She told me I was very goodDamn, I'm jelly>Managed to reverse the thing and get some info out of her as well as a thought.What thought? Wonder if I got it.
>>739847963Sorry, not newspaper. Poetry magazine crew is what I meant. The two women inside the office.
>>739847963Editor of poetry magazine and her intern (interogatrix)
>>739848057>>739848058oh, i went in there and stole their pen and then just dippedpen was good for stealing from vending machines at least
>>739847993The mask thought or 'body language'.
The Icon.
>>739847906Kickstarter is not effectively dead. The Hopetown devs used it and got 180k dollars out of itThe Summer Eternal guys are also doing multiple variations on crowdfundingKurvitz is just not bothering with it and decided to go straight to the point. He found some Chinese company to fund his stuff.
I enjoyed Disco so I bought Esoteric Ebb on strong recommendation from some friends despite being skeptical due to the artstyle, but I haven't played it yet. Considering refunding it and buying Zero Parades instead desu. Thoughts?
>>739848459wow they can emoploy 2 guys for a year in eastern europe with that kinda money
>>739848287Ah, I got that too, then.
>>739848459NetEase, right? Sounds like he already got burned again.
>>739848421i hate gonza so much, he's such a piece of shit to Hugoat first i was like "whatever, goofy character" until i did the tapped phone stuff where he called Hugo and impersonated a little girl who died under Hugo's care at a hospital, not to mention how Hugo just wants Karolina back and Gonza keeps harassing him for it
>>739848459>He found some Chinese company to fund his stuff.Oh no no no, it cant be happening kurvitz bros
>>739848462play both EE has a lot of reading, ZP has voice acting for most lines.
>>739848462They're both good...>>739848534Yes. QRD on NetEase? I don't keep up with chink companies.
>>739848556Just a bit of banter
>>739848659They recently pulled funding from a lot of games most famously Nagoshi's Yazuka successor.
>>739848534Isnt net ease company that just went under? I think spiders worked under them
>>739848756its a comedic relief moment which helps pacingthe characterization is acting like teen boys except few decades older
>>739848497Brother, if a studio that only has one writer and one fucking late-addition programmer is able to get 180k dollars out of the Disco Elysium cred and a bunch of concept art, I'm pretty sure Kurvitz + Rostov would be able to get at least a milly easy.
>>739848861kickstarter only exist as a boost for the actual investors risk management you need to secure funding first, then go to kickstarter and see if it reaches even minimal interest
>>739848793Oof.
>>739848459It would be really fucking funny if ZAUM are only ones that deliver their game
>>739849079well they stole everything so they're the only ones with the ressrouces handy to deliver so fast, the others have to rebuild from the start
>>739849079imagine the scenario where some investors who released a great game, like ZPThose investors kicked a guy of the studio, internal drama whatever. That guy shits on the studio, causes reputational harm. Then he asks YOU to be the investor for his brand new studio that hasnt released anything.
Kaleidoscopebros...
>>739849259kurvitz lost the company due to his own greed and bad business decisions, it wasn't "stolen" from him. drop the commie larp already, it's getting old. he cashed out and got rich btw, bought a luxury apartment in london and everything
>>739849259Im okay with waiting, im takking about them not being able to dekiver games at all, or even more amusing - they release a game and it sucks
>>739849663you know it wasn't only Kurvitz right?
>>739850059yep, kurvitz and his two friends. why?
>>739849643>everyone calls him a pedophile>meanwhile he just likes her musicfeel a little bad for him, at least Karolina has the hots for him (i let him die for this, karolina is mine)
It's really cool how recruiting most of the old crew can be seen as ruthless manipulation or throwing them a lifeline
I watched those docs about DE and still don't see truth in the claim that the company or IP were "stolen" from the creators. They needed money, so they hired themselves a CEO to run the company, and then they got fired for having abused their colleagues and for not working because they needed a break from writing. The CEO would have loved to keep them on; no doubt firing the original writers was a difficult and costly decision, and he would only have made it as a last resort. So I just don't care if people who identify personally with the writers and not with the CEO engage in a two-minutes hate about him every time ZA/UM is mentioned. It just seems like BS by unemployed losers who don't know how economics works.
it's funny that they made such a good game without kurvitz, just shows that he wasn't as needed as he (and others) thought. i'm really happy for the dev team desu
>>739850430What I don't get is how come Ultra Violeta couldn't convince him to help her run away. Surely it wouldn't take much.
>>739850441I don't see how Ramses is at least better off with you contacting him again. At least he's got meds out of it. Otherwise, it's dying on the boat in one of his seizures while Reno masturbates in the corner watching it.
>>739850551Not only no Kurvitz. There are 5 people credited as the main writers of DE (Including Kurvitz, the lead) and none of them were here. The sixth guy on the list, a guy that gets the exclusive "Additional Writing by" credit (Siim Sinamäe) went from that to Principal Writer of Zero Parades.An underdog story, in a weird way.
>>739850572he likes her music, not her, his whole deal with turning her back into Luz directly was because he wants her to make more music
>>739850792Still. He must admire her on some level. And it's the first time he's meeting her. He's a fanboy of hers. Even procured a UV hoodie. Come on, UV could have done it if she tried.
I've played the game for a few hours and haven't actually successfully passed a skill check yet even the ones with a fairly low bar
>>739850982check out clothing + stats, equippable weapons in the artbook they lamented the clothing system features not making it in the final release
>>739850887maybe if she sucked up her pride and sucked his dick, but he seems too professional to falter for just words
>>739850887Interacting with the fans is just uncomfy.
What can you use the cleaners uniform for?
>>739851274well not just uncomfy, she flat out says she hates her fans
>>739851460when you do ramses quest for meds you can use the helmet to hide your face I guess
>>739851460Entering Reno's apartment.
>>739851460I read somewhere that you can use it to enter Reno's office and don't have to risk falling off a 6 foot story building like I did.If you can't enter it yet, then you have to wait for some more quests to give you the option. The one where you get faxed shit to go to the silo, for example.
>>739850417multiple people were fucked by zaum, there's multiple studios claiming to be the successorsonly zaum has literally got the studio and assets from DE, all the others have to start from the ground up that's why zero parades got out so quickwhat your hate boner for kurvitz has to do with it is beyond me
>>739851523I actually don't get the whole setup for meds sting. Two red checks. So this leads to the conclusion that you are getting screwed if you don't do them.I saw Goat Eyes as the dealer and didn't want to pull a gun on him (seeing as I bought it from him like 2 hours ago), and then he just gave several crates away in exchange for "dinner" with a clear innuendo in that invitation. I wanted to see where this was going and agreed, but there is no follow-up. I want my fucking dinner with Goat Eyes.
>>739852201yes and all of the other groups are beefing and suing each other despite no involvement of le evil corpo suits that "took over" ZA/UM. hmmmm
>>739851274>get offered the kaleidoscope deal>"how would i go through yana though">bitch tells me from her own volition that she's considering selling her offdamn
>>739852332lmao are they now?
>>739852350That's Tempo talking.
>>739847810>he... he didnt play it right!! So what if he beat it, that doesnt matter... the gamr doesnt suck IT DOESNT SUCK OKAY????
>>739842330first game taught me to be communist so I'm pirating this one.
>>739852201The only two of the new studios that can claim they got fucked over by ZA/UM are Red Info and Summer Eternal. The other two are clearly just opportunists. It's all former executive producers and beta testers.And the Summer Eternal guys stood by as the Red Info guys left, tried doing their own shit, then left later with their own problems with ZA/UM, so realistically how many layers of differentiation can I put between them and the guys that made Dead Spies?
I just started playing, maybe 2 hours in and finishing the first day. Got the scoop from the boat guy and spoke to the heartless guy too early. I must ask, because the conditioned thoughts in this game are confusing me compared to DE, are the triggers to lose a Conditioned Thought's perks well outlined? Because I have seen prompts for responding in character to my Conditioning but I haven't been (noticeably) punished for not choosing them yet.
>>739852657>complains about quests not being finished>it's because he hasn't done them>hasn't even used the thought cabinet mechanic a single time in the entire gameRetard-kun... you're engaging in said confirmation bias and validation-seeking behavior right now. Did you enter this thread in search of a dopamine hit? What's it like, being an unthinking drone devoid of self-awareness and opinions?
>>739842330Estonian Investor screwed over the Disco Elysium fanbase by cancelling the Cuno Spinoff sequel and firing Robert Kurvitz without even allowing Kurvitz to keep his 30 year old world design/Elysium world like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross communist-unfriendly practices.
>>739852883>are the triggers to lose a Conditioned Thought's perks well outlinedNo. You have to remember them well and make sure not to do them.Also, I'm a retard cause I didn't realize until after I finished the game that the conditioning thoughts are only upping the skill max you can level up and not the skill itself.
>>739852350i don't really blame her, UV was claiming to her friend but never once offered to leave together
>>739852723You should've pirated Disco too
>>739842664>already gave away my cute skirt for wolf cupsGODDAMMIT
>>739853062Well fuck me, I'm retarded too. I may just start over because I've already conditioned two thoughts that I thought were going to raise stats like DE does. Now I know the Animal Magnetism perk mentioned if I be cruel to animals I'll suffer the consequences (which logically tracts a little less to me, I thought this cond was to awaken my inner animal more than befriend them). The ways to trigger the violations SEEM more clearcut on a 2nd glance, but as cool as the flowchart aesthetic is it confused me a bit with the splitting arrows, the cause and effect throughline felt a little backward at first. It seems culture control is a big theme in this game, which is ironic because all you have to do is change a few words around and it tracks as an AI soapbox to the T. Still, I am interested to see where the plot of this game goes. It's funny, not once but multiple times I was told "hey, can we drop this subect? I don't want to talk about it" and then they'll just tell me everything anyway after asking a third time. I'm not even a cop and yet I still get to talk to people as belligerently as Harry did.
>>739853062>max you can level up and not the skill itself.thats probably news to most people
>>739853914>>739854117We love high budget visual novels and we fucking love not reading
>>739854117I mean that's how some of the thoughts worked in DE. Exactly the same actually but instead of violation there was almost always some handicap to other skill.
>>739854280Reading is cringe. I absorbed the game's story strictly through vibes and I'm pretty sure I got all the plot points.
I tried to do everything but still missed so much. Maybe that's what a second playthrough is for.Photograph for Ignatz interrupted by starting endgame even after I took the photo (didn't figure out who he was, either)Failed red check on Ezsti and couldn't recruit her (idk if there was a way to recover). I threatened her and she said she's cooperate but then the questline was just ended and failed as far as I could tell.Couldn't ask HOLOCENE about his note saying that he betrayed the crew, not sure why I couldn't ask him about it in the barNever met RamsesSent UV away successfully (didn't betray her) with a new name etc but it didn't come up again and I didn't see Kaleidoscope again so ig I missed things thereSupposedly recruited Karolina but didn't see her in the bar so I guess I didn't properly finish it; didn't reunite her with her fatherDidn't wiretap the phone sex addict or ask about "the gap"Never figured out the strange sound from the Palace of Culture or removed the squattersFirst run let myself die on the tram listening to the red tape (didn't try to fight it because it felt right but also made me sad so I replayed it)Anyone else planning a second playthrough? Idk if I should do it with a guide to ensure I get some different outcomes or if that would be pointless and unfun.Do you guys keep a lot of old saves to go in different directions?Also I honestly felt so lost in terms of the story at times...maybe I'm just retarded but I still don't know why the Opera wanted to kill Reyes, and I didn't know that The Weeping Eye were from La Luz for a long time, and I didn't figure out what Cascade did wrong to mess things up five years ago (or if it really was her fault)... what a game.
>the halocene shit>he says he has The Small Controller in his mind and we have to cut it out, think "haha yeah man whatever", drill into his skull and there actually was a fucking alien in his skullwhat the fuck
>>739853914After finishing the game i found that conditioning never provided any tangible benefits only made it more likely I accidentally choose the wrong dialogue and have to find a way to kill 2 in-game hours That and chain smoking 10s of cigarette to calm anxiety, then pop 10 ecstasy to reduce delirium then chain smoke again. Just overall idiotic mechanics
>>739854446I'm waiting for patches and a full guide to do my second run. I want to see as much different stuff as possible and also try to be the best spy possible.My canonical run is already over. And I sucked in it.
>>739854619>HOLOCENE can survive the mindrape disk through bullshitNever doubt my schizoGOAT
>>739854715That run looks crazy. I got an X which I think is bad too. I'm not sure if I messed up or if I just got unlucky with dice.
Are only some lines voiced or does my cracked copy have some anti piracy built in? I played DE Final Cut cracked and I swear there were glitches that felt too inconvenient to be just bugs.
>>739842601What other disco likes are there? I have not really found any.
>>739846960I fucking hated her voice at the start but it grew on me.
>>739854921Many are missing, though apparently they patched a lot a few hours ago
>>739847270Puts "the people's" before every item title. So instead of just cigarettes in your inventory, it's listed as "the people's cigarettes".
>>739854923In terms of ones that have both actually released and are overt textbook-on-the-right rip-offs I think it’s just Esoteric Ebb and Sovereign Syndicate (which I didn’t like too much and is a giant prologue for a sequel that may or may not happen, but it still fits the description). A shitload more in development though.
my wife
>>739855078But she was so mean to me, an ordinary poet.
>>739854917Yeah, it goes Z > Y > X > W. Perhaps you can do even worse. (V?)>>739855025I thought Sovereign Syndicate was decent. The sequel is, funnily enough, a roguelite deck builder.
>>739854969wonder if they patched the voice line with the copper lady where you can literally hear her say half of her line, apologize, cough and then start the line over
>>739842330I keep thinking this is a Zero Time Dilemma sequel when I see that title
>>739854923>Most marxistDisco Elysium>Most redditEsoteric Ebb>Most tumblrDead Spies>Most annoyingRue Valley>Most irrelevantSovereign SyndicateI liked them all. Also, Rue Valley is just a VN and not really a Disco-like.There's also more adjacent games like Roadwarden, Suzerain and Pentiment. All worth playing, in my opinion.
>>739855274Reminder they’re working on a Disco-like in Suzerain’s setting.
>>739855078i touched her thigh
>>739854446>(didn't figure out who he was, either) You know. You think that you don't but you know.
>>739855274everything is called reddit on this board so i'm not even sure what it means anymore
>>739842330I just completed my first day and have achieved nothing. Is this normal? Am I fucked/gay?
>>739847694He was the literal brains behind DE and, from what I understand, was the one who exerted the most creative control over the entire project. Also, him getting done dirty is pretty fucked up.
>>739855795I wasnt there to know how it goes since the devs didnt follow him and splintered instead im assuming hes not some lovable genius at gamesthe ZAUM team made a great game without him so
>>739855759Skill issue, but there's no actual time limit in this game, so no worries. You should still try to force yourself to complete it in as few days as possible cause the game is boring as fuck if you just cheese resting.
>>739855078Made her sister cry as a payback.
>>739855387Yeah, I know. I think they're splitting themselves too thin, to be honest. Would have just preferred them to work exclusively on the new DLC but they have 3 projects on the burner.
>>739855795he and his ego-tripping friends basically didn't lift a finger for the final edition, which is the edition that people love btw. saying he was the brains isn't necessarily true either. he also didn't get done dirty, he started acting like a little retarded diva and got greedy. seriously, i respect his work but listen to a single interview with this guy and you'll quickly realize he seems himself as some sort of modern karl marx. he's cringe personified and not in a based autistic way
>>739855759The first day doesn't really have anything, the second has more. A lot more desu and that might be overwhelming but like the other anon said, no time limit unless you do blatantly obvious quests.>>739855078Melita's better. The fingerkiss was hot though
>>739855973Four, actually (that we know of). Project Aperture (Qinal), Project Vanguard (Galmland), Project Fulcrum (some other standalone game), and The Conformist.
>>739857543>main character is a lesbianWoke
What do I have to wear to make the butterfly teens think I'm cool
>>739847573>he got capturedcant imagine being this dumb
>>739858205at carmuna theres V t shirt or jacket
It's really bizarre that giving UV to Kaleidoscope is considered the "good" option
Is there another side to the map I haven't unlocked? On day 5 and half of the map screen is conspicuously empty
>>739858358the cocaine jacket? i dont see a UV option maybe a bug cus i inspected the rack earlieralso is there any consequence to smoking, drinking and being a drug addict in this like there was in DE
>>739842330played it for a couple of hours, will continue tomorrow. I think I like it more than DE, the writing is just a bit more contemporary and less gen x nostalgia.
>>739858481It's not, just like how bringing your friends to a suicide mission isn't good. The rank doesn't matter. You, as a person, do not benefit from it.
>>739848421Never before a videogame character has embodied the /v/ ethos so masterfully.
Kurt might be the most annoying character in any game. Is there any benefit to actually helping him with his stupid dilemma
>Dr GonzaReddit>Holocene4chan
So is Tsun's Arc meant to be China or Africa? Cus the Tsunese guy you meet at the tram stop is a black dude with dreads but later you're told that Tsunese names are like Wang Jiaqiang and they have other Chinese cultural signifiers too
>>739858812you aren't an alcoholic or drug addict so not really
>>739855274>>Most marxist>Disco Elysiumonly started playing it but ZP is a lot more communist than DE, which I unironically like. Statehood perk is basically Marxist critique.
>>739857380>the final edition, which is the edition that people love btwlol what
>>739859357Yeah, but I think ZP criticizes communism even more than DE does.
>>739842527sorry but I do not accept a DND like crpg not having gameplay with combat as one of the main parts of the gameplay.
I'm playing both this and Ebb and fuck me Spies feels so fucking slow at the start
>>739842330Current GOTY, easily.https://youtu.be/qpG92OeyxQo
>>739859521i tried Ebb and its got a boring as fuck start too, it doesnt help the overworld graphics are ugly as sin
>>739859463I'm only at the beginning, but we'll see. A lot of the bazar comments and observations about consumerism were very potent and nicely woven into the whole narrative.
>>739859194He's a Fromsoft NPC he gets stuck and dies in the boiler room if you do his quest
>>739859521It balances out because it has excellent build up and finale. Better than DE, in my opinion. You'll know you're really getting started when you're done contacting in the secret jail.
>>739847920>and is a monument to Disco Elysium 2 not getting madeAs a certified Disco enjoyer, I never wanted a Disco Elysium 2. The more years go by the more I dislike direct sequels.
>>739859749When you're done contacting the guy in the secret jail*
>>739859463Yeah the Superbloc doesnt seem a great place to live
>>739847810>supposed Disco Elysium fans behave this way.Even /here/ half the threads have the same topic structure. Pretending to be a fan is every shitposter bait now.
>>739859749ZEROOUTLICH
so were the articles right about this game not being a spy power fantasy. Does the main character have to do unethical shit to accomplish her goals?
>>739859985KiiinoooPlus the torture scene before it, if you didn't play well enough to avoid it.
>>739852364Summer Eternal and Longdue are in a lawsuit with each other, I believe.
>>739860064You don't HAVE to do bad shit but your employer will be mad with you if you don't>>739860085I didn't even know there was one cus I snuck in and showplayed right outta there, wanna get myself kidnapped next time just to see what happens
>>739852332capitalism wins again lmao
>>739860064I think that much like Disco Elysium is not exactly a cop game, it's somewhat fair to say that Zero Parades is not exactly a spy game either. Both games have a similar formula and structure that ultimately still make it more of a game about talking to get world building, doing errands for wacky characters and having a bunch of open ended skill checks that often just lead you to different tracks in the story.It's kind of like how back in the 90s you could have a point and click game about being an archeologist, one about being a detective, one about being a pirate, one about being a teenager in a spooky mansion, one about being a motorcycle bad dude, but they all ultimately play like "Combine the rubber hose with the brick to break a window"Having said that, the story and the actions you do are definitely spy fiction territory. As for if it's a power fantasy, I guess not. You're more a cog in the machine just trying to pull off a mission, and you can't get the perfect rank without breaking a few eggs in the process.
>>739860064She is a girl failure who spent 5 years shredding files at the desk after a major fuck-up. The first assignment she was given is presumed by the higher-ups to be a set up. You can play it competently but once again like DE it's up a roll of the dice.
>>739860292Yeah most of it is functionally a detective game, which tbf is what being a real spy is probably mostly like. I thought it functioned well as both a spy game and as a better game than DE
When I first started and hearing about how CASCADE was put on ice for 5 years for fucking up so bad I thought the whole time that her entire network were killed off so learning that wasn't the case was so fucking weird.
>>739860423>he fell for the miracle line
>>739860582It was for a swindle of valuable integration technique.
>>739860576She seems to have assumed they were until learning Tempo was alive until quite recently>>739860064Yes and she is also a horny little lezzie
>>739860847One, maybe two? Sure. It's hard for me to buy it but considering that I ran into RAMSES I guess they just found that method more fun.
>>739860932I mean even if they're alive her assets wouldn't have been able to contact her in the Superbloc
>>739860292>Disco Elysium is not exactly a cop gameTo me it always felt more like a detective game in the sense you interrogate people and make them talk to get information
>>739861581What makes it fail as a murder mystery game is that you're railroaded to the solution regardless of how well or poorly you investigate, and you can't solve it as the player by yourself. It's great as a character study and political dialogue but as a detective game it's thoroughly mid
The voice acting is fucking garbage compared to disco, the main character's voice is shit and can't emote properly.The story as far as I've got is retarded, there's nothing esoteric or fancy about this game, it's just yet another crpg I've played already.
>>739845483Still the best Disco Elisium clone btw.
Why did Tempo turn himself into a teenage girl?
>>739861956The game reveals this with a high enough skill check: It was an accident and a desperate move. He meant to have Ultra Violeta turn herself into that teenage girl.
>>739861809>nothing esoteric about this gameUnlike Disco, Zero Parades actually takes some time and effort into figuring out weird shit goes on in the world rather than having two conversations on the first day that reveal the Pale and what it's doing.
>>739845483Discworld has maybe the best fantasy setting you can imagine, since the anesthetic and world building is actually what someone would imagine a weird magical world to be, pretty sad it didn't have much vidya travel.
>>739842330This ain't lookan good.
>>739844916>Reddit accurate angel shitImmediate drop.
>>739860582whats there to fall for? isnt it literally just a single mom doing sex work, shes not a spy
>>739862552
>>739862552>52.2k paying 40 bucks each in the first week is not good for an AA game.Bruh
>>739862921>40It's anywhere from 20 to 40 and 30% of that goes to gaben. So it's anywhere from 14 to 28.
YOU WERE OUT OF MY LEAGUEGOT MY HEARTBEAT RACINGIF I DIE DON’T WAKE MECAUSE YOU ARE YOU BUT FROM A DREAM
>>739861809Sounds like a (You) issue to me.
>>739862552>52k during the first week for what is ultimately still an indie game + however much they'll get when they launch on consoles Seems fine to me.
>>739862921one alternative reality is DE sequel with no public implosion story happening to great success
>>739863835I'd rather no DE2, thank you very much.
A lot of toing and fucking froing, Hersh
>>739859194Looks like somebody is not with The Scene
>>739865580>Gay faggot combined with a moody teen with a dash of a pop starTruly the most unlikable character
i beat the game skipping all dialogue
How's the fashion in this game compared to Elysium?
>>739866869Pretty ass honestly. Not enough hats or maybe I just missed all of the good ones. I've worn the same dumb slav hat for the whole game.
>>739866869About the same as Disco's but you're a girl so cuter.But as far as I can tell there's only one neck item, you get even that late in the game, and it doesn't talk, so that sucks.
>"After the patch update today, there is currently about 2% of voiceover missing from the entire game — roughly ~500 lines"
>>739855204There's a couple of lines in the middle of the game where the narrator is not doing a voice and it was really weird, like CASCADE herself is talking.
Kindred!
>>739862552Thats 2 milion dolars They are good
>>739870304minus employee salaries, expenses, karl marx books etc
>>739855274God, Rue Valley was so terrible with its gameplay. And while it wasn't supposed to be a DE clone, it definitely could have benefitted from it with how shallow the characters were. I haven't touched it since release but I doubt they fixed it that significantly.
playing ZP and EE really humble me thinking how much fucking reading I'd have to do to be able to write a portion of the game at that quality
>>739870512It's honestly not really a DE game. More just a visual novel. And a purposefully tedious one at that. But kino in its own way.
>>739842330Have they fixed the bug with clothes stats not counting for passive checks yet?
>>739870790doesnt seem like a bug
>>739870827But i've seen checks with like 18 difficulty, How the fuck a you supposed to pass it without clothes?
>>739870512>>739870652Not a VN, It's a point and click adventure that looks like a DE clone visually, but you quickly realize that the RPG elements don't really matter. You basically explore and then figure out what and when and where you need to do. Still more gameplay than your average VN, but not even close to beiggn a disco like. It's kinda stuck in the middle and the presentation makes you assume it's not what it actually is. A lot of people were misled by this and the steam reviews show that.
>>739870886could be they're impossible and will be lowered lateror its some "only new game plus" thing
Are all the lines voiced or will we need to wait years for a definitive cut? I read the lines faster than they're spoken, but I enjoyed all the voices in DE and couldn't imagine playing it before they were added.
>>739871179apparently new patch added a bunchI dont see how no VA would be a big reason to not play it rn
I feel like shit for imprinting cascade onto pseudopod then reciting cascade's mindfuck command to further mindrape him, is there a way to actually save him without literal mindrape?
test
>>739871261I don't think so, the best you can do is calm him down, take him with you on a mission and then mindwipe him with the red disc again, CASCADE says he seems at peace
>>739871261If you do some optional stuff and pass the check, at some point you confirm he is basically a breathing dead corpse. He's a goner
>>739842330I don't care about dev drama, but the writing is definitely lacking compared to DE. It's not bad, just not as good. Also, the VO of the protag is abysmal dogshit.
I'm an unironic Nestorist now.
>>739874649There’s someone called Juan Peron you need to learn about real quick>>739873135Nah both are better oomf
>>739875958The fuck are you doing here duwag. What ending did you get?
>>739844616What are the real nigga stats in that game? I was considering str and cha because I want to be an asshole, talk trash and be able to back it up. Gonna start later today.
So is this game a success or did it fail because of the whole shitstorm around it?
>>739847712Based logical post. I bought the game - im probably going to buy any game made by anyone who had anything to do with DE. The more of them there are, the better for me. Are they all going to be any good? Absolutely not, but I love the idea of a DE-like subgenre and want to see more of it and dickless redditors seem to this would be best served by Rostov having some sort of monopoly over the concept itself.As for Zero Parades - very nice. A little slow to start, far moreso than DE but by the time you're a couple of hours in and find out what your assignment actually is, it was making me very happy.
>>739876368surely it made way less money because of itbut its not really our concern
>>739861654>a murder mystery gameBut it never intended to be one. Though the main muder is railroaded all you get before and during that depends on your capacity to interrogate people correctly. And Disco does it extremely well, never got the meme that it was a bad detective game because it doesn't let you find the murderer until the game tells you to. It's not a whodunnit, but still a detective game.
>>739876042STR and INT are real deal. STR politicaly is nationalist, and has personality of fuck it we ball knight in the shining armor fighting for god, honor and country, at the same time its probably the funniest voice in either of the three games. It also is tied to your starting cleric class, so as you can probably guess it pays of during main quest to have itINT politicaly is totalitarianism with you at the top as wizard-king (or more accurately evil overlord sauron style). It quotes crime statistics, tellls you previous dictators didnt go far enough and in general has ego so heavy it works incredible with STRCHA is limp wristed people pleaser, but if you want to romance girls it makes it easer so i would sugest either sticking with it, or if you want some shitzo shit - END is your guy.
>>739875987Z oomf
>>739859710Baller death for boiller boy
>>739842330I really like the concept of the every single tree of a type of tree in the world losing its leaves at the exact same moment.It feels really spiritual
Favorites from the OST?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc9JfYVTubQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo0ItctbFlwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpWquCbcYM8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fbahQ8DaZEalso>imagine not choosing music for trams vol.7https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQERhmV5vns
>>739861956>>739862180Wait what?
>>739881820Yes.There was also a bit of Ultra Violeta in the imprinter already, Yana is a clusterfuck of mostly Tempo, a bit of Ultra Violeta and a sliver of Yana.
I still don't get the idea of copying Ultravioleta. Like what was their plan? Bring the copy back to cover the real thing? Keep her in Yana for fun? Make it make sense.
>>739881658Superblock baby and Cover the moon, but out of non-lirical songs it doesnt have to be this hard really sold the ending. I felt the dread of coming war, and the rising percussion really felt like im being jammed on real time. It was also probably best mixed piece of music in the game, it being completely tied to the conversation tempo
>>739881658You But From A DreamIt being just a bit of the actual track make it conceptually great, even if I really want the full thing. Kind of like how you can pick to listen to it at the end of the game.
>>739881883Where do you find out Tempo went in Yana?
>>739848459Kurviz is well known enough by now that he probably doesn't lack institutional backers who would jump at the chance to fund anything that crazy schizo wants to make.I read somewhere that Chris Avellone wanted to work with him on a project. Ngl I'd buy the shit out of that in the unlikely event it comes to pass.
So Cascade is only 35 years old
>>739881887>Bring the copy back to cover the real thing?I think that was the plan, yes.At first I thought that her looking different would be a problem but then I figured that it's nothing a bit of spy grade cosmetic surgery can't fix.Pretty sure there was also a plan to use Yana as a spy at the same time, would only make sense to not waste a chance of implanting someone in a high up position like that.>>739882067Pretty sure it's when you meet up with Yana after getting the imprinter
>>739882498Don't you find that out reading the personnel files at the start of the game?
How's this for a start?
>>739883217lmao, this has to be bait
>>739883217dont do entanglement, it's not as interactive as inland empire, go for records/poetics/technoflex if you wanna put everything into a blue
>>739883257Why?
>>739883217Honestlyl like Disco Elysium its better to focus on 2 stat lines and just ignore a third. Thats for your second playthrough. In my game I had barely any red skills
>>739842330I don't like the name
>>739883432>its better to focus on 2 stat lines and just ignore a thirdBut that's what I'm doing, focusing on red and blue and ignoring yellow.
>>739883314entangelment and doppelgäng are like two of the worst skills in the game, as in they have the least content.
>>739883581Yeah
I had to turn off the narrator, thankfully you can choose to only play character voices. Started out with a relation build, but didn't enjoy it much. Restarted with action and intellect and found it more enjoyable.
>>739884049I'm not sure if the narrators voice grew on me at around halfway mark of the story or if she was told to change the way she narrates, but I ended up not minding it.It was still a bit too slow paced, but that's about the only complaint I had in the end.
>>739883610dopplegang pisses me off, i got a thought that literally says "gain xp when dopplegang speaks" and it gave me 0 xp any time it did
>>739884435the thought worked perfectly, doppelgäng just never speaks
>>739884553i had like 12 or 14 doppelgang so it spoke a lot, i just never got rewarded for it for some reason
>>739842330You know, I'm actually quite surprised with the reception that ZP has gotten on /v/.You'd think that shitposters would rabidly decry the game for having troons in it.Since, you know, a black guy transfers his consciousness into the body of some teenage girl using secret crypto-jew neural imprinting tech.Maybe they're just too distracted with low-hanging fruits of studio drama and the game sticking slightly too close to the path trodden by its predecessor.
>>739884826just taking the piss since I had 9 doppel for most of my playthrough and it only rarely talked, guess most of the stuff for it is locked behind very high skill checks then
>>739883217Doesn't matter what you pick.You get so many skill points so quickly that you can rapidly evolve your build into almost anything and still do fairly well.
>>739884915That would require playing the game. The main character is a woman, the people who bitch about everything being woke already have an easier way to do it.
>>739884915The difference between a troon and Tempo however is that Tempo never wanted to become a woman, he was perfectly content being a black fag but things got out of hand and it was a desperate last ditch effort.
>>739885032But is there a limit to how much I can level a skill? Like if the base red stat is 3 I can only get red skills up to 5, yeah?
i think there should have been an option to date UV or run away with her
>>739885137Sure, but that's where the thoughts come in, they raise your max cap.There's also using the clothes to min-max stats like in DE.
>start 2nd playthrough, different stats>can't rub Pseudopod's bald spot for luck anymoreWas it a passive check that lets you do it? Does anyone remember what skill it was?
>>739885356If it was skill based it's probably entanglement, I did a playthrough with technoflex, grey matter and entanglement as my main skills and had the option.
I didn't imprint on Pseudopod because I felt bad about the idea :(With that said, I had put the batteries on the imprinting device, just in case you could somehow use it on the finale
>>739885457No, it must've been a red skill. I had low blue skills on the 1st playthrough and could do it.
>>739876397Yeah, the game really builds up nicely when you're done with the start.I'll definitely buy Tangerine Antarctic and the Summer Eternal game too, even if they turns out shit. Not sure if I'll bother buying Hopetown, though. I have my limits.
>>739881658Superbloc, BabyOther than that, the two you posted. It Doesn't Have To Be This Hard and Luck And Skill.
>>739885667Strange, I had all of my action skills except for shadowplay at 3 or 2 with clothing that also affected them negatively, and I highly doubt that shadowplay gave you that option.Perhaps it has something to do with how you interact with him earlier in the game.
>>739881820>>739882067I honestly didn't even realize you could finish the game without it telling you this. Cool.
>>739881887I think they just didn't really understand or at least mentally accept how the imprinting works. The way both girls talked about it, they just treated it as if it was a pure conscience transfer. She was gonna "live" somewhere peaceful, and either she doesn't know or care that it wasn't really gonna be her but just a copy of her memories.For all we know, the real her was always gonna go back to Luz. Or maybe Tempo was gonna kill her off to sell the idea that the transfer happened, SOMA-style.
>>739884915chuds hate DE, so they got on ZP just to prove a point not because they actually like it
I always figured I'd put Pseudopod's memories/personality inside Cascade's mind, but it ended up the other way around. Was the alternative option possible? I thought it might be like getting an extra skill talking to me which would have been interesting.
>>739884915It's always nice when a game I like manages to avoid the /pol/tard Eye of Sauron. Right now they're too busy seething about the 007 game instead, which I don't give a fuck about. Lucky!If the usual tweetfags gave a shit about this and started taking screenshots about how the MC can be lesbian or whatever, then yeah, we'd never hear the end of it.
>>739886038Nah, the whole point is that you need someone to be very mentally open for the imprinting to work. Tempo did hypnotization stuff, but it was clear that Pseudopod being catatonic made him a perfect target.
>>739884915It's an actual discord raid
>>739885796I tried recreating my 1st playthrough and I still can't get the option. It's either choosing a specific option when waking up or the new update fucked it.
>>739885952Truth be told, Yana does imply that Tempo probably wanted to fuck her over and use her as a sacrificial chess piece more or less, but then again she does also say that she's not sure which of her feelings around the subject are Tempos, which of them are hers and which of them are V's.Good to keep in mind that we are talking about stone cold assets/informants working for a major spy network here after all, so it's fair to expect them not to have a lot of empathy towards people that can further their goals.Most likely plan however was that they transfer the consciousness of UV and Tempo into Yana, send her to Luz to work as an informant with all of the experience of Tempo and send UV off to the superbloc, Tempo was in the process of getting UV forged papers before getting killed after all.
>>739886038He doesn't have any memories or personality, he got his memory wiped by the tape, there would be nothing to transfer.Cascade would end up as a catatonic husk on the floor next to Pseudopod if she somehow managed to do that.
>>739881658>>739885783Oh yeah, there's also this. Just another variant of Luck and Skill, but I also like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oUq_PtY-fI>The name of the track is the path I went withKino
>>739886483PSEUDOPOD still retains some of his memories, stuff like his sock obsession and the fact that his lucky candy was given him by his grandma
>>739886483>Cascade would end up as a catatonic husk on the floor next to Pseudopod if she somehow managed to do that.No, cause it just imprints the memories onto a person while still keeping the old ones. The shock is usually the fact that now there's twice (or over twice, since Tempo is older) the memories all battling each other.If anything, nothing would change kekIt's like adding a 0.00001 txt file to your PC
>>739886038>Was the alternative option possible?why would you even want that, PSEUDOPOD was an actual retard, I have no idea how Opera even approved him for a mission
>May 21174 Positive (73%) vs 64 Negative (27%) (73% Positive Total)>May 22126 Positive (75%) vs 42 Negative (25%) (74% Positive)>May 23121 Positive (76%) vs 39 Negative (24%) (74% Positive)>May 24112 Positive (80%) vs 28 Negative (20%) (75% Positive)>May 2584 Positive (82%) vs 19 Negative (18%) (76% Positive)>May 2670 Positive (81%) vs 16 Negative (19%) (77% Positive)>May 2771 Positive (91%) vs 7 Negative (9%) (78% Positive)>May 2866 Positive (87%) vs 10 Negative (13%) (79% Positive)>May 2978 Positive (89%) vs 10 Negative (11%) (79% Positive)Game currently at 80% positive total, though, counting today. Number of reviews going up while the percentages stay as positive is a good thing.Compared to Esoteric Ebb, ZP only got 60% of the reviews in the first week, and it was at 78% positive instead of the 96% positive EE got. Still, I think this first trend indicates that there's gonna keep being growth as word of mouth continues pointing out that this is in fact a good successor.
>>739886965>idiot unprepared for the mission that instantly would have folded>operative that got burned in this theatre already five years ago, and since then was on forced desk work >supposed to kill guy known for being unkillable Yeah right, it was all setup by the dark forces
>>739882225Chris Avellone is actively working with Kurvitz on his Red Info game. Along with Hindepere and Rostov, in Estonia. They got money from Netease, which means they at least has some type of fire burning under their asses to make a thing.I've also heard rumors that the Esoteric Ebb guy, the other Chris, is getting involved, but I'd much rather that he just makes Ebb 2 instead.
>>739882498Dried eggs.
This weido KALEIDOSCOPE joins my team after ineracting with me twice, and then asks if he is 'part of the crew', they really tried to force you to give a damn about him lol
>>739888074>Chris AvelloneI genuinely have lost all interest in this game. I loved esoteric ebb but even if its maker and kurvitz will work on this im skipping it because of Avelone alone
>>739888549He just burned all his bridges, working with you on this mission could open doors for him
how do you guys even get all this info from zaum kruvitz and the restmost of it sounds like hearsay
>>739884915Those people can't read well enough to play something like Zero Parades.
>>739881658Man, I love the theremin in luck and skill
>>739852210>I wanted to see where this was going and agreed, but there is no follow-up. I want my fucking dinner with Goat Eyes.This, I hope it gets added to the game in a later update if there is going to be any
>>739862705I was disappointed it wasn't some EMTERR operation, with the phone sex addict negotiator using it as some information passing tool
Just finished the game. Great game, It felt better than DE (by a close margin). I prefer spies to alcoholics. I'm torn between doing a NG run and achievement hunting now or waiting for bugfixes + QOL updates
From the Golem's perspective, why was the Lich alone at the memorial? Presumably he thought it was not a body double. Were the goons supposedly betraying the real one -- if so then why didn't they realise it was a double?
>>739861809>it's just yet another crpg I've played already.Go on, give me a list. I sure could play another game like Zero Parades.
>>739871261I accidentally lobotomised him again by kicking him in the back of his head (twice if I remember right lol) and decided to bench him from my team
>>739888549I liked his character, it's just a shame he got introduced so late into the story
>>739842330true disco chads (and only TRUE disco chads can respond) is zero parades really as souless as it looks?
>>739890392Brother, there's like 4 different documentaries about the ZA/UM implosion at this point, not to mention multiple twitter meltdowns from devs.If you mean what Kurvitz is working on now, we only know cause NetEase filled copyright on it.
>>739892493It's very soulful
>>739891626The way the body double talked, he knew he was coming in to get sacrificed. Once the original Lich escaped, they just picked the double and had him serve the same purpose. They knew.
What happens if you let Karolina go after the guy before you kill the Lich? I threw that shit to the water cause I didn't want to fuck the plan up.
>>739892493
Kicking up sea spree and bending the palm trees
>>739874649Nestor was a gigachad
>>739885052Also it seems like imprinting isn’t a real transfer of consciousness as much as forcing someone to do a shitty impersonation of you forever, since you and the imprinted PSEUDOPOD can coexist.Tempo didn’t become a woman, if anything Yana became a man, and even then it’s not clear what the hell her gender identity is. PSEUDOPOD, disoriented as he is, doesn’t seem to find it strange he’s in a man’s body either.
>>739891803Pasted from Reddit and I’m too lazy to remove all the subreddit names so sorry.Already released:Citizen Sleeper 1 & 2 | r/CitizenSleeperGamedec | r/GamedecLovely Lady RPGPentiment | r/PentimentScarlet Hollow (early access) | r/ScarletHollowSlay The Princess: The Pristine Cut | r/slaytheprincessSovereign Syndicate | r/sovereignsyndicateSuzerain | r/suzerainThe Bookwalker: Thief of TalesNorco | r/norcogameRoadwarden | r/RoadwardenRue Valley | r/RueValleyGameEsoteric Ebb | r/EsotericEbbDemo available:Clam Man 2: Open MicGive Up The Ghost (https://eitherorcollective.itch.io/giveup-alpha),Glasshouse (https://flat28-collective.itch.io/glasshouseconcept),Hollow Home,Livber: Smoke and Mirrors,The Demons Told Me To Make This GameIn development:Mandrake,Pera Coda,Shore of Jord,The Conformist,Travelling at Night,Disco-adjacent:Fallout 1 & 2 | r/FalloutKentucky Route Zero | r/kentuckyroutezeroNight in the Woods | r/NightInTheWoodsNikola Tesla: War of the CurrentsPathologic 1, 2, 3 | r/pathologicPlanescape: Torment | r/planescapeZarya
>>739893440The original imprinting method from the time of Anonymo sounds suspiciously like brainwashing, when you think about it.Of course consciousness isn’t really transferred - that would be silly given the tech level of the ZP world.
>>739893559> Travelling at Night,Demo coming this summer, if dev blog is to be believed.
Was there any benefit to having two guns?Any difference between sticking with wang or goat eyes?
anyone know if doing a second playthrough as a silent-hardcore spy would be fun?
>>739893559>slay the princessam i not understanding the game, isnt it just a visual novel with a bunch of branching routes?
>>739888074Kurvitz and Bodegard should both just stick to the things they do well. Which is communist drama and fantasy comedy respectively.
Am I the only one who's bothered by CASCADE model? It looks like a dude with female clothes.I basically only wear the cop outfit as it's the only one who looks kinda good
>>739895319I don't like any of the models in this game. I just imagine them as the portraits, which are great.
>>739895078Esoteric Ebb did a lot more than just comedy. I'd even say it went in more interesting political directions with Nazgalism/Nationalism than DE, even if Bodegard is obviously wrote it all himself (and it shows, for good and bad)
kek based
>>739896116i'm like an hour in, the extremely ugly graphics are throwing me off and i hate that i'm stuck with this stupid ass goblin companion, is the game really worth continuing?
>>739896571I thought the game looked nice aside from character modelsYou can just tell the goblin to fuck off btw
>>739895024basically yes, but it's very good and somehow disco coded
>>739895740Fair enough
Just started playing and I'm already annoyed by the narrator's voice and horrible flat reading. Can you turn it off or do you get used to it?
>>739897362You get used to it, but you can turn it off
Man the narrator voice really sold it to me, it's crazy seeing so many people hating on it
>>739895319As long as you make her wear all the teen-pop-shit she looks kinda feminine.Pink wig, ultra violeta shirt, skirt, shit like that.She is kinda flat but that's to be expected.
need the gog version to get patched already
>>739896128Jamrock Hobo is a pretty chill dude
>>739897362So many people hate it immediatelyI switched it off immediately after having been pissed off by it in the demo and needing to skip lines fast to not hear it
>>739897362I really didn't like it at first, but it grew on me throughout
>>739896128His YouTube channel is pretty comfy. I'm looking forward to hearing his review of ZP after I finish it.
what kind of spy am I for my first run?
>>739884915give it a couple weeks DE was like this too
>>739848421Gonza screams Self Insert Female fanfiction.
>>739896128Base what you wanna base and let the based contest honestly I wanna see you be based
I finished it and now I am sad there is not another game.It was so fucking good, better than DE
>>739854446how the fuck do you miss so muchI basically did EVERYTHING in the first run. just spoiler yourself a little to know to do the yana/kaleidoscope mission last
>>739842330Better than DE even
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>>739842527To be fair, I had the same problem with Disco Elysium for a long time and would drop it and start again a few months later.One day I just got into it somehow and couldn't stop playing.Might have been because I started save scumming.
>>739842330I gave up on Esoteric ebb after 1 hour of boring pratchett redditor comedy descriptionsI gave up on Zero Parades after 10 minutes of annoying female narratorNone of them are even close to Disco Elysium kino. It's either feminist cringe or marvel redditor quip.
>>739911591Thats the difference. Disco Elysium feels as written by black pilled nihilistic women hating apolitical depressed incel. Ebb feels like written by a redditor and Zero Parades feels like written by a woman or male feminist.
>>739907017The DE reaction from /pol/ consisted of them accusing Helen Hindpere of being a tranny, crying about how the right can't make real art and seething about "the knox rule" (fucking kek) being broken.
>>739850430>(i let him die for this, karolina is mine)Karolina never dies unless you go for the red disc without RamsesIt's the crew who plays the Fool that perishes if you chose to save the Cupbearer
>>739854762But all he did was stuck his head out the window
>>739855078I like how you can shoot herGuess it could be payback if she tortured you
>>739859530I'm kinda disappointed that the red disc song doesnt contain the full satellite launch transcript
>>739913295And they're all solid ones, to the brim of style and atmospheric depth. I guess the intention behind is all what matters.
>>739853058On one hand, I sympathize with the OG team, on the other, I fucking hate commies and buying by virtue of it being a good product will teach them a lesson. What do
>>739855078>sex looks>sex voice>sex personalitysex
>>739893559My first playthrough of Scarlet Hollow was so dogshitingly bad, I somehow made all the worst possible choices in every oppurtunity
>>739895319The models are somehow worse than DE
>>739896747>crossover fanficLmao
>>739914249Where do I find her location in game?
We live in a universe where the Disco Elysium spinoff of Cuno will never get made. Shit sucks.
>>739917739Right next to Gonza's clinic, there will be a ground prompt to turn the camera upon walking there. It cam be confusing to find because you assume there is nothing there, I happened to walk upon it by accident despite having searched for it before
>>739896128Based on his xeets he seems to be enjoying himself. ZeroParadeGODS we can't stop winning.
>>739917852Cuno caresCuno cares a lot...
>>739897362I liked her for the most PAAAAAAAAaaaaartBut someone seriously needed to tell her to not end 70% of her sentences with an ElOnGaTeD SARCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASTIIIIC WOooord
>>739913072You could have just turned the narrator off (and even kept the voices if you wanted) if it was such a big deal.Sorry you got filtered by two good games.
why the fuck was the monkey able to speak
>>739918889It's a reference to Morrowind's special merchant.
>>739917852honestly as much as i loved disco and zero, I prefer they make completely separate stories for each game
>>739918889He can't. It's a special spy technique. You were interpreting how he was acting to know what he wanted and imagining him speaking. His voice is that of a villain from one of the movies you loved watching.
>>739918687I also don't like how she'll randomly start using vocal fry out of nowhere.
I like how the artist for Cover the Moon When I'm Gone was clearly told "make a Grimes knockoff"
>>739917852Thank fuck.
>COOOOOVEEEEER THE MOOOOOOON>WHEEEEEN I'M GOOOOOOONE
>released 10 days agoDamn i didn't hear about it, though tbf i was a little busy, good timing too since i need a single player game right now.Though i have some questions /v/, does it have any combat or "gameplay" or is it like disco where there's only 1 encounter in the game and it's just a dice roll and speech check. And how heavy is it on the /pol/itics? I know this sounds dumb but i liked disco elysium for Harry's story anf personality moreso then the politics
>>739921526It has "action" sequences where you need to navigate a situation but there aren't a ton of them, and no traditional combatThe Bolitics is present but it doesn't shove any particular perspective down your throat
>>739921580>It has "action" sequences where you need to navigate a situation but there aren't a ton of them, and no traditional combatSounds like an improvement since the par was low to begin with>The Bolitics is present but it doesn't shove any particular perspective down your throatWell that just sucks, i hope the new protagonist is interesting at least.Thanks anon I'll check it out
>>739921526You have action sequence that are still dice rolls and you have a fatigue mechanic that prevents you from just trying everythingThe politics are there, but they're mostly window dressing, I would much prefer if they invented fictional names for communism and techno-fascism, because there really is no elaboration or consequence to these
>>739921718The new protagonist feels more like an after thought just comes off as pretty fucking interchangeable.
>>739857380>final edition, which is the edition that people love btwdidn't it literally just slap on voice acting for an already finished game?
>>739892632Know of a good write up on it? I was there during the controversy but I didn't do a deep dive and it seemed like there was conflicting info at the time due to all the shitflinging
>>739922352kurvitz and friends signed some bad contracts without reading them, they then proceeded to act like rockstars and refused to do any work on the sequel and treated people like shit and subsequently got fired. refusing to take responsibility for their own actions, they blamed the evil investor who FORCED them to sign the contracts
>>739922486commie larpers are so obsessed with worshipping people for some reason, it's genuinely bizarre. imagine calling yourself a commie and at the same time encouraging people to pirate a game that has nothing to do with the previous drama and rob 80+ devs of fair compensation for their work. goes entirely against their supposed principles. it's all 100% performative and ironically enough kurvitz made fun of that kind of "communism" in DE, but i guess that point didn't sink in with these retards
>>739858976Going off the screenshots of writing here I don't think I would like it. I feel like you have to really enjoy the prose of this shit to enjoy itGot any good samples of writing from the game? That's what makes or breaks it for me. I know that's a request that includes subjectivity
>Check the page of Summer Eternal>They somehow got Ted Chiang on their teamWhat the fuck?Also, i don't know if you guys know but the name of their game for now is under the placeholder title "Project Red Rooster". Judging by what it can be glanced on their page, it doesn't look like a chaos agent story (Spy nor Detective), but i rather imagine something like "Germinal" by Emile Zola.
>>739923063According to google, Chiang is just there for the manifesto anthology they are trying to sell. Thought for a second that maybe he would be part of the writing team for their game.
>>739922606the devs are paid whether the game sells or not
>>739923340>pretend to be retarded so you can continue your flawed way of thinkinglol. lmao
Man, when all these "DE successor" games come out, it's gonna be one long and slow bitchfest of people arguing which one did it "right".Maybe this is Kurvitz master plan as an allegory for communism or something.
>>739923463>pretends not to know what a salary isreally?
>>739923497you're either 14 or you have 80 IQ. take your pick
>>739923521ZA/UM is not exactly a small company with 80+ devsyou really think they don't pay their workers a salary? I'm starting to fear you're not actually pretending to be retarded
>>739923482Can't wait for the 18 hour retrospective titled "I played EVERY official Disco Elysium successor and I will tell you which one is the BEST"
>>739923834Yeah and we'll get one of these for each game.
>>739923463you are literally retarded
