How the fuck was a little kid in 1998 with no internet supposed to figure out that you have to go back to the lost woods to learn Saria's song and then go to Goron City and play the song for the Goron chief so that he gives you a bracelet that lets you pick up bombs so that you can open the 2nd dungeon by blowing up a rock blocking the entrance? I'm a 24 year old man and I had to look this shit up.
You're a retard
>>739846676Navi tells youDon't tell me you just ignored her
>>739846676Ever wondered what Navi is for? Ever wondered why Navi is called that?
>>739846780Nav... holy shit
>I'm a 24 year old manYour brain doesn't stop developing until you turn 25. You still have a year to stop being retarded, bro!
>>739846676Darunia and the Gorons themselves talk about a "green" song from the Lost WoodsYou're told that you can light bomb flowers on fireYou find a tunnel with the Lost Woods theme playing from it blocked by boulders next to bomb flowers within reach of an unlit torchThere's a lit torch at the bottom of Goron City near a path of unlit torchesA Goron tells you that he wishes the torches were lit
>>739846737>>739846752>>739846780She doesn't say shit. She just makes annoying noises and says HEY alot. Stupid bitch.
>>739846676Literally every time you need to go somewhere to do/get a thing, Navi will tell you. She's the "where the fuck do I go" button.We did this in 1998 by having more attention span than a fucking goldfish, having basic pattern recognition, and fucking READING you zoomer fuck.
>>739846962>What would Saria say if we toldher we're going to save Hyrule?
>>739846962Being dumb is one thing, being too retarded to admit you're wrong is even worse.Unless this is a weak attempt at trolling by pretending to be retarded, you should abandon all hope for your life.
>>739846962>>739847098>I wonder if Saria knows anything about the other Spiritual Stone?
>>739847098She would ask for your shrimpy child anteater dick
>>739846962Bring forth the yellow paint!
>>739846962This is why the Navi hate is a fucking meme, mostly spread by people who never played the original. She was always helpful.
>>739846676idk i finished the game when i was 9
>>739847098OP is a modern gamer. To any person of average intellect, this would be a broad hint, almost insulting your intelligence.To OP's brain, it means nothing. He still doesn't understand where to go and what to do. He needs a quest marker on the minimap to follow.
>>739846962Anon is 24 years old and hasn't worked out how to use the other half of his controller yet.
>>739847098>>739847138>>739847151>>739847184>>739847224>>739847285retarded boomers with rose-tinted glasses onPathetic!
>>739847224ThisThe worst thing I can say about Navi is she's a little dry, her dialogue isn't entertaining to read once you've already played the game enough to know everything. This gave rise to Tatl and then Midna as the final exam. But genuinely, between being solid about pointing out shit like song of time blocks, lens of truth shit, places to play songs, scarecrow spots, ect, she'll just fucking tell you where to go like 99% of the time.Her being annoying is SUCH a secondary meme. There's like maybe three places in the game she is, when they're a little too aggressive with the context/location dependant triggers. Like, the hole in the fire temple.
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Not to sound as retarded as OP but how were you supposed to know to go to the well as a kid? I played it recently and just remembered that you have to but I don't recall any directions pointing to it
>>739847278It really is retardation partially caused by modern games leading you by the nose.I mean ffs, Navi suggests going to see Saria. The gorons near the connection between Goron City and and Lost Woods say they love that song. Saria gives you a hint when talking to her while in Goron City, AND Navi hints at it
>>739847864I think that is one you're just supposed to trip over, since Kakariko is more or less where you go to restock your bottles and shit, so you probably go there between temples, so get it organically.Navi may or may not tell you something after the Water Temple though, I don't remember. I haven't done Adult linearly as intended since the 2000s.
>>739847864Since its later in the game its harder to figure out, but there are a few thingsAfter the cutscene in Kakariko of it on fire, Sheik mentions you have to be able to see the shadow monster (Bongo Bongo)There is also an NPC that mentions a man with an "eye that sees truth" and his house was where the windmill is nowNavi will give hints in the village and hover at the well.And ofc Talking to Guru Guru as an adult is a huge hint
>>739847864>>739848129Wait, you mean as a kid. That's easier. You get the ability to turn back to a kid right after the Kakariko cutscene, so it makes sense to come back. And then just through reasonable expectations of exploration probably found the Song of Storms, so going to show the guy is probably something you're thinking about.I do remember as a kid, that was actually literally the first thing I wanted to do when I realized I could turn back, 'cuz I thought showing the guy the song he said I showed him was cool as shit.
>>739846676They released printed game guides.
>>739847864Personally, I just spent the whole game thinking "I wonder when I will be able to explore the well" and checked up on it a bunch.
>>739846737FPBP
>>739847395>Get proven to be a retard>No u!Awesome comeback anon, almost elementary school tier.
was anyone else unable to get the fire tunic? when I played the game, I got through the Fire Temple without ever getting it because I had no idea where you were supposed to get it but after beating the game I couldn't get it from the rolling Goron dude in the city
>>739848893You can buy it in the store in goron city.
>>739848893noBecause as a kid there is the BIG one rolling and I had stopped himSo as an adult I knew what to do
>>739848929it's always t's out of stock, I don't think you can buy any of the tunics in the shopsI had the gold cartridge, maybe they changed it latermy save file has a number that says "001" which I assume it means that I missed an item?
>>739846945Isn't it kinda weird that Death Mountain conveniently has a path that takes you right away to the lost woods? Imagine how many Gorons died accidentally walking into the wrong hallway.
>>739849146Thats why they blocked it off with boulders
>>739849142No that's how many times you have died.
>>739848494I remember the windmill was always super interesting to me, and I was always curious about it.
>>739849142>I don't think you can buy any of the tunics in the shopsYou can buy replacement tunics if yours gets eaten by a Like-Like, but have to get the legit tunic first.
What's the evolutionary advantage of exploding when something picks you up?
>>739849679To spread seedsIt happens irl with some plants
>>739849679The explosion spreads seeds.
>>739848893Once I missed it, but afterwards I learned it's that you have to use a real bomb, not a bomb flower.I think you may also have to set the bomb off early with an arrow (or deku nut depending on your version)
i think the biggest aspect of this game I hate is how everything else that's not tied to the main quest is so boring with the payoff being practically uselessi loved getting lost in the world though and finding shit like the bunny hat man just resting in a spot or a random Po in Hyrule field
>>739849679Usually it's gonna be one of two things. First, as mentioned, spreading seeds.Second, is discouraging things from eating it/certain things from eating it. If a plant does something weird, it's gonna be one of these two things like 90% of the time. It wants bugs or birds to eat it, not mammals (peppers do this), or it wants to be picked up, then panic thrown away to maximize dispersal. The remaining 10% is either to attract pollinators, or fix nitrogen, niether of which seem super likely given that it's the full grown fruit, so it doesn't need polinating, and explodes, meaning any animal remains are probably also dispersed.
>>739850090>It wants bugs or birds to eat it, not mammalsConversely there are plants specifically evolved to get mammals to eat it but try to stop insects or even birds from eating it.
>>739850090>. It wants bugs or birds to eat it, not mammals (peppers do this)And of course humans are one of the few species who actually like eating something that makes them feel like Satan is taking a burning diarrhea dump in their mouths, so boy did that strategy succeed in an entirely unintended way!
>>739850310Evolving to manipulate humans is an effective strategy too, plants like rye and oats started as completely useless parasites on wheat fields but since only the ones that could convincingly mimic wheat got spared by farmers, over time they became more and more wheat-like which eventually included having usable grains.
>>739848494yeah the well definitely felt like something you should be able to interact with at some point so you would file it away in the back of your mind. and then there's also the guy in Kakariko who wants to know the Song of Storms and that requires going back as a kid, so you start putting it together. the game is not hard, I beat it as a kid without guides. but you do have to play with a different mindset than most people play games with nowadays. you have to pay attention to the world, be willing to experiment and try things, talk to everyone and try interacting with everything. if you just go on autopilot and expect to be railroaded through the game you'll probably have trouble.
>>739846676Navi tells you and reminds you every few minutes. Sorry you're retarded, I guess. Very common among those your age.
>>739848893How did you even get to the fire temple? Darunia’s room is locked until you talk to his kid (which he gives you the tunic). That entrance to DMC is how you can reach the Shiek spot. The other entrance from the Trail brings you to a ledge lower than another with an orange rock (the entrance to the fairy fountain) so it’s not a normal jump up. You had to do some kind of crazy jump to make it to the fire temple.
>>739846676You never once thought to check up on your best friend?
>>739850468>You had to do some kind of crazy jump to make it to the fire temple.I did, you only need to get into the temple before the timer in the volcano runs out. in the Fire Temple itself not much changes other than some rooms will also have timers on them
>>739850431Life, uh, uh, finds a way.
>>739850838>*throws away ocarina*
>>739850468I think the temple is accessible from.the normal crater entrance, it's just unlikely you'll make it on however much non-tunic time you have unless you have a fuckton of hearts. The broken bridge needs the hookshot to get across (or hover boots, I guess), but that's true from either entrance. The goron kid is the soft requirement for the bow, and thus Forest Temple to be done before Fire, but isn't strictly required since you can just time a regular bomb, or have a bunch of hearts and go the long way.
I knew about this because in my country OoT came packaged with a little book that had translations for every text box in the game, so I could read ahead and infer what I had to do based on that
>>739846676Darunia tells you he likes music from the forest and the lost woods are connected to Goron City... Also Navi tells you to go back.You got filtered by reading OP.
>>739850994I remember hearing you could skip using the fire tunic like that from another kid, so I used to do it for fun/a challenge, but always went back and got the tunic after.
>>739850838Malon's mommy milkers are my only friends.
>>739847224>>739847606Bullshit, it is absolutely not forced.Navi IS obnoxious, just like kaepora gaybora, and basically everyone in the fucking game who cant stfu. That doesnt mean they arent helpful for idiots and toddlers, but just because brainlets find them helpful also doesnt mean that everyone else has no right to find them obnoxious.Fi is exactly as obnoxious but is less "cryptic", and people hate her, and Mackenzie is less obnoxious and equally "cryptic", and he absolutely tanked the game's sales.The fact is that zoomers are so offended by the idea of something not catering to them (an sjw/woke horseshoe holdover) that they get upset when something isnt constantly dumbed down in proportion to their level, meanwhile gen X and millennials get so bent out of shape that these retards with record low IQ cant handle the most minor variation and then reflexively defend dumb things as a retroactive positive.Its perfectly fine to admit navi is annoying while also being a resource.
>>739851404You don't strictly need either tunic. The Zora tunic is probably the more useless one, there's basically no occasion that you'll actually need to be underwater for over a minute. It adds a little more boot juggling which sucks.The Goron tunic, there's like, iirc, three rooms including the crater itself that it's genuinely useful in, but then its real value actually comes from spikes in later dungeons, which are coded the same as lava so deal no damage.
>>739849146It's crazy how Death Mountain connects to Lost Woods to Zora's fountain.
>>739852262Gerudo Valley feeds into Lake Hylia. Lake Hylia and Zora's Domain connectZora's Domain connects to the Lost Woods, which also connects to Death Mountain. If the Greudo to Lake Hylia transition weren't one way, it would be interesting that you could go everywhere except Hyrule Castle and Lon Lon Ranch without ever touching Hyrule Field.
>>739852674Zora's Fountain has an unused exit for Zora's River too which idk why they put up a fence and removed it. Interconnectivity is always good.
>>739852857I wish you could go over the side of Death Mountain, at that spot where you can look down on Kakariko, and "fall" into Kakariko from there. It's kinda stupid, but would be kino.
>>739846676millennials are just smart like that
>>739847098Who cares what some foid thinks?
>>739851570>She's so annoying, she told me to "Hey Listen" once fuck her
>>739854183What makes you so emotional about someone not heckin' loving your gay game?
>>739854116That's a nature spirit wearing a child's body so you feel more comfortable with it, anon.
>>739854319>So emotional>one sentence mocking you?
>>739854116She's your best friend and implied to be the one who basically raised you. You don't care what your best friend/mom/love interest thinks?
>>739846676Is it lack of attention span, or illiteracy that causes this?I lean literacy. Zoomers got fucked by distance learning.
>>739851570i played this game many times and to this day I have not a single clue of what the owl tells you
>>739846676Nigga, you dumb. I beat this shit when I was 14 , when it came out, no internet, no help, just fuckin viben
>>739853348I hope the remake does it and keeps the compactness of the original, the compactness of OoT is so good,
>>739854482Do you not want me to ask whether you want me to restrain myself from not telling you this again>Yes>No
>>739854347npc>>739854482iirc he just repeats the exact same thing the fucking deku tree JUST said seconds earlier, which zelda will repeat soon after.
>>739854830>Buzzword
>>739854805dont forget that if you request that he stfu, he will keep going anway, then asks that question again while reversing the "yes" and "no" so that if you try to pick the same answer as last time you have to restart the whole fucking thing.
>>739846676It's called exploring, also there's a fucking giant owl all over the place telling you what to do.
man if you can't figure out Ocarina of Time I'd love to see you try playing Majora's Mask
>>739854963how about LoZ?
>>739846676Our generation has higher IQs than your generation.
>>739846676Seeing people play this nowadays makes me understand why the series turned out the way it did.
>>739855273two standard deviations higher, btw.
I vividly remember being stuck in this spot for a couple of days as a kid when the game first released. Honestly a pretty formative gaming memory.I got really frustrated because I tried playing Zelda's Lullaby and Epona's Song over and over at Darunia wondering why they wouldn't work. When I learned Saria's Song I couldn't wait to get back to Darunia in order to give it a try.Good times. Progressing through videogames used to be a lot more slow paced. I got stuck multiple times and I just ended up wandering through the game world doing other stuff. Finishing the whole game probably took me a couple of months back then. Nowadays you just look up a guide when you're stuck and you'll probably knock out the whole first childhood segment in a single sitting.
>>739846676>1998>no internetyou are brown
>>739854562LARPing zoomer faggot who was born in 2007 spotted.
>be American millennial>live in cozy upper-middle class area>soccer mom buys you a Nintendo 64 because The 700 Club told her that PlayStation games have blood>parents can also afford you to buy the entire Rareware library>since you are rich and American, your family are also early adopters of the internet>lo and behold, everyone else online is also a rich American from a Nintendo 64 household>Ocarina group masturbation session ensues>The internet universally agrees that ReDeads are the scariest things ever invented because none of you ever played Silent Hill>Internet gaming culture is built upon the idea that everyone owned a Nintendo 64 and everyone agrees Ocarina of Time is unambiguously the best game ever made>Fast forward 20 years>Euros, Aussies, and working class Americans are now online>You find out that the Nintendo 64 absolutely fucking bombed outside of middle America and nobody gives a fuck about Ocarina of Time>Even in the US the N64 was massively outsold by the PS1, let alone abroad>Persecution complex ensues>"This can't be........did.....did I shit my pants over Wind Waker's graphics for nothing?">Start calling Ocarina underrated due to the fact that people who've played more than 1 fucking game don't think it's the best
>>739855248that too. for that matter, I'd love to see all the BotW kiddies who keep repeating that it's just like LoZ actually play LoZ and realize it actually has progression checks and cryptic puzzles, and you can't just wall climb over everything to Ganon.
>>739856231Yep, some 42 yr old zoomer.
>>739856757>Be Gen Alpha>Hear OOT is some kind of ancient uncslop game>Look at it and it's all pixels and cartoony and shit>Cry about it on this ancient shitposting website called 4chan you hear all the uncs use>I hear they call this 'epically trolling' whatever that means
>>73985679224. Sorry about your brain damage and dyslexia.
>>739856757>Be OP>Be (you)>Be retardedWoooooooow how was I supposed to know???
