Freeze to meet you--I mean cheesed to meet you.
https://steamcommunity.com/games/219990/announcements/detail/687507011804332720>Cheaper than Mina>More content than Mina
>>739853347not buying your slop
Honestly? I'm having fun. So far it's scratching that adventure-exploration itch and it's not piss easy like 90% of zelda clones
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1375400/Ghosts_n_Goblins_Resurrection/>Cheaper than Mina>Harder than Mina>>739853462Same goes to you, Minafag
>>739853347is that AI art? that doesn't even look like grim dawn's artstyle
ratsexo
cool fucking pixel art you have there, totally not seeing the jpeg artifacts
>Shills will tell you this looks goodIt looks. Like. Fucking. SHITWhy did they spend so much time to make a game look like the GBC Zelda which also look fucking terrible and THEN make the gameplay rollslop which only works in 3D?
>>739853183Mating press.
>>739853347For a meltdown lasting 16 hours or longer, please contact your doctor.
>>739853347>>739853584>Y-YOU CAN'T LIKE A NEW GAME! Y-Y-YOU JUST CAN'T!!
>Obsessed retards rehashing their whining since they posted it at the end of the previous threadlmao
>>739853347You could just make a grim dawn thread but no one would click on it LOSER
>>739853183She looks like she vores human men
>739853681kill yourself retard
>>739853681You're so raped
>>739853681Because gameplay over graphics. Same reason I love modded openxcom extended. Them looking pixelated is irrelevant, and eases modding
>these are the people accusing you of being a shill if you discuss Mina's game
>>739853183Is there a GoG rip yet?
>>739853797another perpetual victim on /v/. many such cases. they do it to themselves
>>739853839I'm starting to think he's a Grim Dawn hater because this is going to turn more people off the game than convincing anyone to spend a dime on it.
>>739853797(Me)woops I accidentally included two normal posts
>>739853183Furfag
Pirated your game, thanks.
>>739853839>none of them got deletedgrim to be quite honest
>Yacht Club fuckboys moments before disaster
>trinket that makes you speedchug estus
>>739854128i'm half tempted not to use it because the moment I equip it that shit's not coming off for the rest of the game
>>739854128VERY thirsty rat healing at incredible hihg speed
>>739854084>dedicating your whole life to seething over a videogameYikerinos.
>>739853183>free-revive trinket restores your sparks>can't re-enter the spark door without having to kill myself until I waste all my bonesI'm genuinely fucking mad, I was just trying to work a little around the 1-hit challenge
Are you finding yourself switching weapons often? Wondering if I should focus on upgrading the whip or getting everything.
>>739854653upgraded whip is great, go for it
>>739854653How do you even switch to the other weapons? In the underlab, I can only get the one I picked (whip)
>>739853183wake me up when they use 8bit/256colors which has been around since the early 80s. it honestly would look better in gameboy pea green than whatever the shit they are using
wooo look at her go
>>739854816pure sex
It's fun to play but did it really have to be gameboy color graphics? Couldn't we have gone to at least gameboy advance?
>>739853347Faggot, this is a paid DLC, not a free update. For that, I'm going to pirate your game when it's out.
>>739854867GBC has more sovl
>run into an area>can't figure out how to proceed>leave and hopefully remember to come back when I have whatever upgradeIs this a "upgrade and backtrack" game or was I too dumb to see the solution for the room?
Uranium Bracelet talk last thread got me curious, so I compared between demo and full game on the first enemy with and without itIn both the game and demo, whip and daggers do half HP raw for a 2 hit killIn demo with Uranium Bracelet, both 1 hit killIn full game with Uranium Bracelet, both still take 2 hits but the first hit leaves it at red HP (25%?) instead of halfProbably nerfed from 2x (or more?) damage to +50%
Games good I’m afraid
How do you switch to the other weapons after picking one? I'm just after the first dungeon
>>739854867I have a soft spot for both since I had both growing up, but I get the preference for GBA style sprite work.
Anyone else keeping notes on secrets and areas they couldn't solve? One of my few gripes atm is that I keeo running into secrets that want me to use a specific side weapon, but refuse to fucking give me one for it anywhere nearby. I need to find the one that lets you dash in the air again but can't remember where it fucking spawned in the graveyard zone
>he didn't pick the whip>literally her canon weapon on all the artbruh
I boughted.
the definitive proof that this is a zelda clone and not a soulslike is that the lynel is bullshit
>>739854813>>739854867organic
>>739855391I literally just died to this asshole
>>739855391I found that you just have to be REALLY slow and patient when fighting it and hide behind the wall a lot
vee seems to have an unreasonably big hate boner for this game. maybe it's actually....."good"?
>>739855557/v/ hates bad games, but more than that, they hate good games
>>739853347>>739853584
>>739854653coffin is fun, didnt try the gun yet
quite pungent my dear
I am once again asking how you switch to the other weapons after initially choosing one (I'm past the first dungeon)
>>739855214I should be, but I've been going by memory and paying for it repeatedlyIf I'm thinking of the right subweapon, from the knight in front of the building entrance you go one screen right and one screen down
>>739856073chest in the checkpoint room
*gets mogged by Pipistrello
>>739856073Blacksmith in town
>>739856117>>739856142The chest only has the whip, and the blacksmith only has the upgrades unless I'm missing a menu choice somewhere
>>739853183Only beaten one boss so far, but I'm getting the hang of things. Playing with a third party SNES controller, and it's surprisingly comfy. Wish the health you build up didn't get removed along with your actual health, I have this hammer and want to actually tank hits.
>>739856393All items in smith's shop are new weapons
>>739856130it's okay lil bro, mom will let you buy two games this year
>>739856073you can find weapons in the field (look for red chests)
>>739856393they aren't upgrades if you dont own the weapon, they are just the weapon
>>739856393You need to actually get the weapons.Smith sells one of each, the 2nd and 3rd copies are in chests out in the world.Not entirely certain what happens to the 3rd copy of the weapon you started with.
Holy sex, is that a Vixen?Also what are these flowers I'm picking up for?
>>739856615flowers give you plasma which is the yellow part of your hp bar you need for your healing phials to actually do something
This game is really hard to put down...
>>739854648Lol the same thing happened to me.There is an estus you can pick up in that area so make it count. You also get a sub weapon that heals you in there IIRC.
>the carving man appearing in the save roomthe boss fight itself was disappointingly easy
>>739856775I want to play more but my controller hurts my left thumb. It sucks getting old mates.
>>739856965I had the pariah appear in the save room but he was splish splash taking a bath
>>739856393>Press [J] to strike
>>739856615is that a cross on her forehead? this must be the mythical christian furry tradwife i've heard so much about
>>739857068I've rebound attack/subweapon/heal to left mouse/right mouse/mouse 5 and it's been comfy.The game doesn't fucking let you bind to mouse buttons so I had to break out AHK for it
How do I grind for bones aside from harassing the golden lady ?
>>739855657>mixels
Zoomers hate this game? If they do then i'll buy 100 copies just to spite them and own the libs.
>>739857206holy fug you're right
hate this nigga like you wouldn't believe
>>739857068Whenever I touch the keyboard to take a screenshot, the game switches over to keyboard controlsI use a DS4
>>739856087thanks, that was it
speaking of screenshotsHE SAID IT, HE SAID THE THINGKIIIIINNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>739853183>it's called coltrane peak because it's cold and you need a train to get thereBRAVO KOJIMA
Am I an idiot giving away all my bones to everyone who asks? I've already lost 300 to tramps and beggars
i got to what i'm pretty sure is the first town (city center) but everything's on fire and a bunch of mouse guards just say "return to your home now." am i supposed to just ignore this place until later?
>>739858452I smirked and then stood up and clapped when this happened irl unironically
>>739858759its pocket change and some of them gives you useful hints
>>739858786you're still in the prologue. go talk to Lionel
>>739854653I started using the blaster and it feels really good. It makes boss fights much easier. You can get some quick hits in and then unload from a safe distance. The damage is better than I thought it would be considered how safe it is. I guess its weakness is that you can't start with it and you need ammo, but you get ammo back really fast.
Just started playing but is the twist as predictable as it seems right now? because I feel like they couldn't make it any clearer that lionel is the bad guy.
>>739859038This game has a story?
>>739859038It’s a retro video game. You’re getting an obvious plot twist or you’re getting an evil wizard as your badguy.
>>739858878don't know who that is. the only characters i've met so far are cappy, a mouse lady in the first hideout, and this glasses girl >>739856615 postedguess i just keep going
>>739853183bought ithated itrefunded it
>>739859038Dude... what the FUCK
>>739859038>feat for beating the game is literally called Hollow Victory
Okay so the kraken trinket is obtainable at a later point in the gamegood to know
>>739858786Go as north/northwest as you can and burrow under the two guards
>>739859285You have to dig under the guard blocking the gate.
giraffe sexo
>>739858452What's the current reddit moment tally?Game legit looks like something I'd enjoy but you've always got to be wary of jumpscares these days...
>>739860529
>>739853808>dude you gotta choose good gameplay or good graphicsthat's not how it works, great games can have both
>>739853681can you at least pirate the game and find an area that looks shittier for your cherry pick webm instead of one that looks perfectly normal
>>739860529random npcs might make overt puns about their species/occupation, nothing i'd consider spiritually draining
>>739859038is lionel a lion
>customise colour scheme>can just turn invisibleCute feature.Pretty sure it even works in the new area CGs.
has anyone modded it so the main character isn't so freakish yetjust make him link or something.
>>739861071>him
>>739861160Link's a man.
Bought the game today. Binged it for 4 hours. It's fun, it's also pleasantly challenging. I think I will fap to Mina rule 34 now
>>739861071Link isn't a Hollower
>>739855642>if it's fun, it's casualfunny how you never see people use casual as an insult nowadays
>>739861560they just call it "normieslop" or "friendslop" or "streamer bait" now
how do i fix this graphic bug?
the game on vanilla difficulty is too easy, be sure to enable veteran mode in the settings. achievements you could worry about later, but the game on normal is just a breeze
>>739861939By switching to a real man's weapon.
>>739861939Ive had this, you have to yell in the mic to wake her up.
Bought this on steam, wondering if I should get it on switch instead. I have to play it in windowed mode, otherwise the graphics look bad.
>>739862130that's my 4th weapon though, just wanted to try it>>739862145i mean the place holder textures from the mega man gun
The hammer is the only weapon that makes sense to play
>>739862446Fully upgraded dual blade is just broken. No sure how fully upgraded hammer is doing there
>>739862297playing in windowed mode is annoying, but better having the game run at 144+ fps. can't imagine playing this type of game below that framerate
Playing this on PC sucks. I feel like I have to sit far away from my screen to not get a headache
>>739862446whip lets you cheese enemies over gaps and has an upgrade that makes it do more damage on tippers
Vita version would be cool
>>739858452ITS MORBIN TIME
Hollower? I don't even know her!
what's a good bone farming methodI've just been clearing the area to the east of the town with the knights and red goblins, since they're easy to kill and there's also lots of graves that you can dig for 50 bones eachit's like ~650 bones in 90 seconds tops
Is there any Shovel Knight reference anyone's found?
>>739853839Shouldn't one be trying to link games similar to Mina rather than a goddamn ARPG? Hell handing out the 2D Zeldas is more smart.
I've reached peak... (as in cap)also i like that the dagger upgrade lets you hit diagonally
>>739853681>>739853797>game already has a dedicated schizoYup. That's how you know it's good!
Why does this game have such an overwhelming hate response from specific anons? Every thread seems to get spammed by the same few fags.
this isn't fun
Lost as to how to progress in a room30 minutes later I finally realize this isn't a wall
>>739855408the game looks like fucking garbage
>>739864169Anon this is just tutorial…
>every single flying enemy constantly gravitates towards diagonals so you can't hit itFUCK WHOEVER DESIGNED THIS AI
>>739864169Skill issue.
>>739864278I die in one hit to these things
>>739864280>jump vaguely near the enemy>swing within 180 degrees of them>they die in one hitImagine not being a hammerchad.
>>739864363Are you using controller? I found it easier to adjust positioning with the controller stick
is this a NPC or a boss fight?
Why did they fall for the Zelda meme? They could have made a 2Dvania which prints money and never dries up.
>>739864456AACKK!!! it was a boss fight fuck
>>739864280Once you get the flies around you, you’re pretty much immune to flying enemies
>>739853681ever played oath in felghana?
>>739864471vania is more saturated and most of them play the same
>>739864471The misread the atmosphere and thought there was more of an overlap of fans of overhead Zeldas and soulslike.
>>739860945>you can fully customize Mina's paletteoh hell yeah, this was one of my most wanted features for Shovel Knight DX so if nothing else I'm glad they've included it in Mina
There is an in-game manual SOUL
>>739853347This shit's finally coming out?
is this an anti-piracy measure? can't progress past this
>>739865361
>>739865361I'm retadedforgot I could burrow
>>739853584>coming into a thread to bring up a different game>post isn't even informative because it's a game everyone knows I hope you stub your toe
>>739865361Yes, pirate fags can’t proceed past this point. You can just delete it now
>dude what if you had to start dodging before the attack even startscan't fucking believe they decided that making a game around that was a good idea.
Is the Green Vial not incredibly broken compared to other deployables? I feel like I rarely care to use the others when I get them.
>>739865361anti game journalist measure
>>739865629We have officially gone too far or jumped the shark with the parry mechanic bullshit from dark souls.
>>739865361I'll admit it got me for just a second>forged? I don't think there's anything I can interact with to prove that it's real>is there any way I can prove who I say I am?>oh wait
>>739855642Someone remake this post but with all the modern buzzwords that get used.
>>739865697And by Green Vial I mean Mist Jar, I got the name completely wrong lol
its kinda funny seeing the shills have fluff nothing-burger conversations just to post more, you will literally never see that kind of vapid post in a normal thread>Hey guys, anyone know how to roll faster against the mushroom knights?AUTHENTIC CONVERSATION WOW
>>739866149>least schizophrenic /pol/chud
>>739866208Dang I don't know about you but I had such a tough time against the frog mage boss in level 2. Guess I have to upgrade my Red Bottle
The corpse run is a little hard after the graveyard section. I forgot I could burrow.
>>739853681>game actually passes the contrast testi kneel
I am always burrowing you will never catch me walking
died to the ghost again, i think i will need to get the silver sword before i get past this guy.
Why do some anthro characters wear shoes and some don't?
>>739853681Thank you for proving it's good
>Fighting that rabbit thing with the 2 NPCs that are hunting the rabbit>accidentally zone out the bottom of the screen>zone back in>NPCs are gone and just generic enemies>reset at hollower den thing>same thingUh wow. Did I just fuck this quest line up? wtf
Mina didn't get the Steam front page treatment because they're called "Yacht Club Games" and gaben really doesn't want people thinking about his yachts right now
i am pretty sure this game sucks ass....
>exit greyed out on level up this timewtf, is there a limit to how many times you can skip? forcing bone spending is dumb
>>739865629>Guess an attack before it comes out? Fighting games are stupid>Guess an attack before it comes out? Card games are stupid>Guess an attack before it comes out? Chess is stupidTry not being an embarrassing mongoloid. If you are always moving like you should be then you will already be underground when you need to be. This game demands you get good and so many poser casual faggots like you are getting exposed so hard and I love it. Be better or kill yourself, either way you improve.
>Finally get the red bottle upgrade>Forget to burrow against the gate guard>have to do... ANOTHER corpse runwow lol
Getting close to the end of the game.I wonder what dialogue you get in a sinless run. Or if there's anything special for SINMAXXING.
>>739853681it's frustrating sometimes how poorly rollslop translates to 2D in this game. It's really hard to tell where hitboxes are. It's like a 50/50 shot whether the top of an enemy is a hurtbox or if it makes sense and doesn't hurt you. and having to aim the weapons in 2d is frustrating
>>739866834did the exact same thing because i burrowed over the water there
didn't even realize I could charge magic until after I got on the ship. That was harder than it should have been.
>>739866149if they wanted to post more they wouldn't need to have some sort of evil scheme.
I think I may be retarded, I have no idea how to leave the town in a way that actually makes progressLionel has put his trust in a very very stupid mouse
>>739853183Prove you aren't a shill
>>739867836The correct option is to go out the south gates and then head left.Or go out the top-right exit to head to the two harder zones first if you're a real gamer like me.I couldn't figure out the south gates either.
>THIS took 6 years to developlol
>>739853347Buy an ad shill
>>739853347schizo
>>739867947you are a niggergo back to Africa
>>739868150>north-east is the harder areagod fucking damn it, I do this every time. I went there first and thought the game was just meant to be hard after you exit the tutorial
>>739868162
>>739860591The fucking clown NPC got me good a few times, but the hand grabbing is hilarious.
>>739860591That was just a really confusing thing for me, I was already trying to enter the shop, so it was just kind of awkward.
fightan the fly nigga
How to get this drill?
>>739868576i think the art is good, but using mixels is a major fuck up
>>739868576>they made a jeet boss
>>739868606you can cross that pit with your parasol. timing's just a little tight
>>739868606>>739869061the timing must be INSANELY tight, i tried its 5 times before assuming I needed that stupid drill arm side weapon I found once and have never been able to re-discover
>"oh cool, Yacht Club made a Zelda inspired game now, I bet it's gonna be like Shovel Knight is to Mega Man and Ducktales">buy the game>it's a fucking 2D soulslike with a Zelda coat of paint>refund it
>>739867947https://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=158797
>>739868576>dagger shitterlol, lmao
I don't know exactly how the obviously evil Lion dude is a bad guy but going by the orphanage I'm going to guess it involves the use of a few unorthodox parts
>>739869737daggerchads will inherit the earth while hammersissies compete for scraps
>>739865697>>739866067the fact it does zero damage makes it pretty fair I think. You can use it for some great dodges but you still have to time it properly, and other side weapons can also keep you safe by simply letting you attack enemies outside of their attack ranges in the first place
>>739870245me on the wheel
>>739868576>>739870245>>739869737You're both noncanon. Whip is the canon weapon!
>>739870315h...he's fast
aiiiieeeeeeeeeeeee
>>739866834>>739867546i died in that fight because i entered it with no health and they didn't show up again for me either. I'm assuming they'll pop up later in another random area because that would be a really bad bug to have missed>>739866853The fact it didn't get a steam front page announcement is crazy. Whoever was in charge of all the marketing for Mina should be shot
>>739870369Ask Guile for tips
>>739869691Just turn on the kiddie mode accessibility setting and it becomes Zelda
>Soulslop
>>739870385at some point on thursday's pre-release stream the devs were talking about how they were excited that Steam told them they'd get an "out now" banner so I don't know what happened there
Does this game have no dodge mechanic at all? It's akward as fuck to rely on burrowing to get away from enemy attacks, especially when a good chunk of them are faster than it's humanly possible to react in time with this
>>739870847You can jump attacks that don't hit highHammer has an invuln rollShield can guard and parryThere's a parry trinket too but I haven't tried it yet
>>739866027>buzzwords>sSorry we only have one buzzword now
>>739866834>>739867546>>739870385Good news! Original guy that posted here. I went back to that pond area thing while exploring and it re-triggered the boss fight. You get an attack+1 trinket too which is sweet.Just leave the area entirely and fuck around for a while at the city then go back to it.
swamp music got me goin like
>>739870385>The fact it didn't get a steam front page announcement is crazy. Whoever was in charge of all the marketing for Mina should be shotThis is true for the entirety of Mina's existence. I didn't even know about it until I saw it shilled on here a month or two ago.>>739871237Awesome, I'll keep checking. I've done a lot of other stuff but every time I come back to that area it's still filled with generic enemies.
>>739870369where was this guy again? I should give it another go now that my shit is all upgraded
>>739868606How did you get a CRT filter?
>>739871237where was that pond again anyways? Was it on the path to the wild west zone?
>>739868606>do this whole fucking thing>the drill is just another fucking sidearm that I lose within 5 minsbravo
Is this good or worth playing if I'm not one of the people who pretends that 2d pixel art games are actually relevant in current year? I wouldn't play A Link To The Past either, so is this better than that?
>>739871598that's one of my biggest gripes with the game rn, the world is way too damn large for there to be no actual detailed map. It's got enough going on in it that even if there WAS a map it would also need to ability to place pins so you dont forget all the stuff in it like this car wrecking room
>>739871751No this game is just rollslop but with shit graphics. The only people playing it are shills and furfags
>>739871718exit left from the city (overtaken bridge or some shit like that the area is called, go all the way left, then go down toward the swamp area
>>739871775No you sound too gay
So what the FUCK is a hallower anyway? did they explain it? other than her being a scientist/creator for those towers idk wtf hallower is
Reminder Link to the Past only took two years to develop.
>>739871836Thirdie detected
>>739871889With inflation that's like 10 years these days so Mina still wins
>>739871898Only turdies are the ones with PCS so shit they would resort to playing this game.
>>739871934based
>>739871934>inflation
>>739871842thanks, i appreciate that>>739871850You really got me there, anon! Idk why you usually stick to the generic bait like crying about BLM and development time
>the year is 2035>Yacht Club Games releases their next 20 trillion dollar budget game>it's a 1-bit game>they remade pong>/v/ aggressively defends this and blast posts
>>739872221You jest but a new Breakout would go hard
>>739872310Nothing will beat Smash Frenzy 2
>>739871751does this look like a good time to you
Is it a joke or do you actually have to somehow dodge before attacks even happen?
>>739872484Yes
>>739872484this game looks like shit
>>739865918shovel knight does the same gag>holy fuck did you just shovel something? damn you really must be the shovel knight
>>739872539There are even games out there without any iframes whatsoever, if you can believe it.
>>739872602Does this also look like a good time to you
Just beat the game, 75% completion at 16 hours.Really enjoying the game, going to see if I can hit 100%. Game has a lot of soul in it.
>>739873045Yes, if anything I find the game difficult on default. (That might just be my age and fingers though, can't keep up anymore.)The game is absolutely beautiful.
>Walk to the right>Leave the screen>Boss unloads>Boss's health is refilledWhy did they do that?
just fuck my shit up senpai
I don't understand how pixel scaling works. when i put it in a window the screen just gets bigger and smaller randomly. if it fills the screen does that mean that number scales perfectly to the screen? if that's the case when x1 and x5 both scale perfectly to the window do i go with the higher pixel scale or lower one? does it change anything if they're both scaling correctly?
>>739873362I mean there's settings to make the game easier or harder if needed be. Though if you like what you're seeing then it's probably worth giving it a shot.
>>739873679it does literally nothing for me
>>739873781yeah x1 and x5 look exactly the same
>>739864456This dude was unironically harder than Thorne right after him.
why did this game bomb?
>>739873880For some reason it auto-scales up on top of your setting, regardless what you choose.So if your window has enough space for 4x4 pixels but you chose scale 1, it'll quadruple it all because it's free real estate. If you set it to scale 2 it'll still double, but if you set to 3 there won't be room for a doubling so it will actually stick with 3.This is easy to see yourself in windowed mode, but my fullscreen visibly shrinks on x4 and x5 compared to the others, as x6 is the maximum it supports (so x1 x2 and x3 are all factors of that).Note that none of this matters if you have Scale Mode Fill since in that case it'll fill up regardless.Very convoluted system.
>>739872539Most attacks seem pretty choreographed. You should be able to react.
>gamers when they're forced to react and not just roll into attacks
>>739874425This is a strange piece of art.
rodent women sexo
blm game
>just unlocked the trinket that lets you burrow in walls
>>739870369not an issue for hammerGODS
the tentacle hentai monster is kill
>>739874640it's useful but it's really fucking annoying how it interacts with digging under fences. If you jump directly at a fence with it on you'll get stuck on the fence instead of going under. It's really annoying in challenging platformer sections that involve going under fences
>>739872539Mina isn't a game where you can just reach with a dodge or parry button. It's like classic Castlevania or Mega Man where you have to factor positioning and know when to back off.
>>739872484Unironically, I think if Silksong had GBA graphics it'd bs a thousand times more successful.
>>739876709yeah, because silksong famously underperformed lmao
>>739873193>16 hours.How the fuck did it take them six years?
>>739853183I’m nonbuynary.
I just beat the swamp boss first try with no estus flasks. Unless it becomes much, much harder later on, I seriously do not understand the complaints about difficulty. And I say this as a shitter who got filtered by Silksong
>jumpscarenot buying this game.
>>739876923this happens every time, especially with "hard" 2D games.
the spark death system is one of the stupidest I've seen of these souls-esque death systems. If I die when I had a lot of bones I just go and spend them on whatever instead of risking losing them with no gain.
>>739877039I like the game but what were they thinking with that oneBonus points if you never end up going back, and later have to kill yourself to get through a spark gate.
>>739854816faster
So Mina the Redditollower turned out good?
>MFW this flops and yatch club games shutdowns
>>739877559Compared to kickstarter/patreon scams they at least put their product out.
>>739854128It's amazing. The difference between the healing system being ok or complete dogshit (at times at least)>>739854648Same thing happened to me. It's wonkily made. If you die without the trinket in the area you get all your sparks back so you can open the door again. With the trinket you are boned (up).
Here's how to make the game fun.>go south, save Rhena>go northeast, find the drill sidearm>buy the upgrade that lets you keep your sidearm after you dieCongrats, you are now enjoying the game.
>>739858759There may be an NPC that gives you a key for being generous to the beggars. They also give you some subtle hints about things.
>>739853681Looks cool for a gameboy game, not for a 50+ dev team with a 50m budget working on it for over 7 years.
>>739870369The Axe sidearm totally wrecks this challenge. Try it out.
>>739873045Pro-tip, you can hit the shield dudes even in the front against their shields with the umbrella sidearm and some other ones too. Helps a lot.
>>739853347>instead of playing this game why not play a game of an entirely different genre?Do you think gameplay "content" is fungible or something?
>>739878234I think if gamers weren't brainless cattle and instead had standards, they wouldn't be paying for sludge like Minna the Shallower at all.
>>739877916>>buy the upgrade that lets you keep your sidearm after you dieTHE WHATWhere is that? I've been neglecting side-arms for most of my playthrough.
>>739878827they wouldn't be paying for grim yawn either tho
>>739856613I thought theres only 1 copy of each weapon in the world and rest is upgrades from smith,
>>739860591Is that if you dont visit the shop at all for a while? never got it cause i visited it myself pretty early
>>739859038Yeah its pretty obvious, one npc even mentions that Thornes fires only hit Lionels place and no civilians got hurt.
>>739864456>>739864486Its a normal enemy later
>>739878827>no don't play a discrete experience with a beginning and end play this grindslop looter for 1,000 hours instead
>>739868150Oh i started with the graveyard and it didnt feel that bad. What is the supposed order of areas?
>>739869404Burrowjump while holding parasol button does it every time
>>739853347>Grim Yawn>update is le viking redhead blue paint worldseriously, what's next ? samurai ? zombies ?
>>739868606Whatcha retards doing?You're supposed to get the drill diver first to complete the area to the right easy.
>>739879053Guild Hall
I'm sorry, what?
>>739881583You need to unlock the 'nude' cloak to progress this side quest. Come back later.
>>739853347>>739853584this is the same fag that shitposted in the UFO 50 threads isn't it?
Mina....easy on the cheese.....
>went through 3-spark door in the graveyard>die inside>now i can't get back through the door to get my spark back
>>739883586Piratefag? Supposed to be fixed already.Crazy they didn't spot that in testing, since that trinket is absurdly OP for that part.
more like Mina the Swallower if you know what I mean haha
>>739877418
>>739883986Yeah, she swallows human men, whole, after shrinking them down haha
just started, anything i should know? i chose the mace/flail
>>739884636>after shrinking them downgay
>>739884817After the intro, the guild upgrades make the game much easier. See >>739877916
>>739869691Yeah, what a fucking rug pull. The demo killed my interest in the game. Wish I hadn't backed it....
>>739874971This guy sucks ass with the Hammer
>>739885740At least you've learned a valuable life lesson about backing video game crowd funding campaigns.Don't.
>>739853584I already have that game though, schizo
Why would someone waste a kear here? It doesn't even take that long to jump around. Am I missing something?
>>739872484>>739873045Convinced me to buy
>>739886904It's a locked chest as well as a barrier. So you'll get some bonedust.'swhy it looks like a chest, innit
gachatroons absolutely losing it
>>739886904usually whenever a kear seems like a worthless investment there's also a chest under it or something so you at least get something out of it
>boss who 2 shots me took all my sparksfuck
>>739855657>>739855934Why did they make the color palette so repulsive. That green-brown color is widely considered to be the worst.
Oh, it's the Motorslice shilling campaign once again.> Game looks meh.> Publisher commissions art from some literally whos.> Publisher sends bots to 4chan.> Awkward "sexo" posts.> "You're all mad" posts.> Soon, "game sold dozens of copies posts".
>>739888215I don't think Yacht Club has the budget for all that. They had to even sell their grill.
>>739888240Maybe they went the Lunacid route and are spamming 4chan themselves.
>>739853183its almost like they made the game as disgusting looking as possible. its not even the horrid designs or the mediocre pixel art but the color palette it rapes you every time you glance at the game
>>739888296If they are then I they should instead consider spending their time updating their resume for when they get laid off.
I resumed after the demo ended and have no clue what's happening. Someone refresh me.
Fuck am I supposed to do? I've ran through the cave a dozen times looking for a hole or something.
Devs were begging so I gave them some money, I hope they can afford to pay rent this year.
>>739884449But can Mina do the Subrosian Dance?
>>739868629not only mixels but I've been seeing some dixels too, at least there are no rixels, that'd suck
>>739868629there are zero mixels in this game you blind retard
>>739888737zixels bros... they're coming for us...
Mina’s text will hover up and down to emphasize something. Isn’t that so cool?
>>739868576That cunt owes me 1.3k.
>>739853183Woke trash
>>739889479explain
Trying to use ReShade to give it a GB/C look, any tips for making it look better? Currently just using lcd-grid.fx (ported from RetroArch https://github.com/Matsilagi/RSRetroArch/issues/22) with the default resolution bumped up to 640*480, but I'm not sure what that resolution is expecting, it just looked ugly at 320*240.
>>739888737I realise that it's dumb to get bothered by something I can only notice when I zoom in on a screenshotBut it bothers me regardless.
>>739889479Ending is typical left wing "you were the bad guy all along" nonsense.
>>739889709that and also there's no built-in GBC shader
>>739889723So i can fix her then?
>>739889709you can make it pixel perfect in the settings
>>739853183>easy mode settings: on>interactive map next to game window: openyup, it's gaming time
>go into the mirror for the first time>there's a giant fucking giga nigga monster that one-shots me before I could even react to him>steals my bones>now I'm somehow supposed to beat this nigger>he just rapes me again because his one hit shaves off half of my HPI'm THIS close to just disabling this entire retarded corpse run system, achievements be damned. What the fuck is this masochism.
Is there an intended order to go to each area or is it "open world" ?
>beat incredibly hard boss that im 90% sure I was underleveled and undergeared for>reward was 500 bones
>>739890318>steals my bonesBut he doesn't, he just threatens to next time you die. Buy something using your stones to make up the remainder, can't lose bones if you have none.Unless you already lost them in which case there's no corpse run.
this looks like it plays terribly on PC
>739890812
>>739890497There's definitely a difficulty curve and an intended order, but you have wiggle room to pick where you go. For example after the opening there's three different areas you can go through, and which you can pick which one you tackle first.
its a shame there are no sexy furry men in this game or i would buy it
Can't wait for this to be /vee/'s favorite game in a few months once all the chudlets have moved on and everybody is ready to embrace the game that filtered the fuck out of everyone, even rollsloppers cry about their iframes taking too long
>>739890318yeah, i just turned on a bunch of stuff.checkpoints before bosses, no pit damage, no bones lost, cheap sidearms, roses healso it's a little more zelda and less like a shit 2d souls sloppa
Chose the hammer cause it looks cool and I'm just biased to big fuck off hammers. But I also liked the addition of an extra attack method.Not sure if I'll regret it later, cause my skill level at action games is a bit below average. Probably not though. Worst case scenario it just means I spend more time in the game and have to master it.
pfft
>>739891405you can get the other weapons pretty early anyway
Funny glitch I found. If you die while shepherding the duke, he will just stand where you died and tank everything until you restart the quest.
Its crazy how much of a difference one or two bone ups can make. >retried the opening section a couple of times after my intial run to test different weapons.>only boned up on my first run, which was my real save.>at bone lvl 2 Thorne was not bad at all, didn't even come close to dying.>on those extra runs I did afterwards for weapons testing I stayed at default level >he kicked my ass so hard I died like five times
>>739873045>>739871751No. Convinced me to skip
>>739888982see>>739857360
>>739873362you are literally mentally ill if you find this beautiful. Old people are fucking nuts man
>>739873045WAIT YOU CAN FLY WITH THE FUCKING UMBRELLA??
>>739871751>it's not a photorealistic moviegame so it's LE BADsounds like a ps5 pro is the console for you, nonny
>>739892346>flynoit just lets you hover over 3 tile gapsit literally tells you this when you get it for the first time
>>739890318Skill issue.
>>739892257micro-plastic penis detected
By our powers combined we'll HAVE A BLAST
>>739873045Wow whip sucks if this is the only thing it can doBlaster has 10 times the range
>>739893118Yunalescka's copy of Mina looks a bit off.
>>739873045I don't use sidearms nearly as much as I should
>>739853183dang sexy buttshot well at least they knew
>>739853183They could have shaved a year of development time off just cutting down on the lore/dialogue cause I frankly do not give a shit about anything going on here. They did it right the first time with Shovel Knight.
>>739893118Half of these are graphicsfags who would never play a gameplay first video game. It's very disingenous.
>>739893393That's because acquiring and using them feels like ass. It's like everything bad about quicksilver bullets and old CV subweapons mashed together.
So... does she?
>>739893642Ironic because SK had a very simple but effective story, with SK having dreams about catching Shield Knight and how it turned out in the end.
>>739873606literally me
What's your thoughts on the weapons thus far? Hammer is very easy to handle once you realize it can hit aerial foes on a charged slam and gives you insane mobility during a charge animation. Blaster gives you effectively infinite range with sky high DPS, recharges from hitting environmental objects too.
Starting with the hammer feels like the worst decision I've ever made
>>739894413>>739894292The duality of man.
>>739884636BASED
>>739894413Hammer just requires a bit of practice, it shuts down every enemy because you can hold on until they attack and oneshot them, or roll out of danger and then oneshot them.
It took me way too long to realize that Mirrors are warp points
Is this jump possible to do with an umbrella?
>>739894541The dopamine is there with the charged attack but I'm in agony otherwise. I feel like it would have worked better as a second or third weapon. At 3 hours I barely understand dodging attacks in general and having the hammer roll is just making that learning process even more fucky. Also having issues aiming it after a roll, but I might just be retarded.
>>739894292I feel like I'm shooting myself in the foot whenever I switch off hammer. Having burst damage and some actual width and height to the attack makes a world of difference.I like the attack speed on daggers. After buying the training dummies I noticed they do bonus damage on the flying one too, so I guess that's cool. Also nice that they can attack diagonally with the upgrade.Whip's ok.Shield I'd like more if it were less fragile, but maybe it's skill issue. The parry's really good when it works and really bad when my shield breaks and I die instead. Shield throw's amazing combined with burrowing, and I noticed the shield jump gives extra height but don't know if it has puzzle value. 1x1 base attack range SUCKS.Blaster I haven't used much but I really hate the short melee range and haven't ever found myself wishing my main weapon had projectiles.
some trinkets i found some blue guy in town, are the bridge weaver or spring heels worth getting? they sound like they could be used to cross some big gaps or jump up higher to places?
I like the casket weapon more than I thought I would.
>>739894696dude same
>>739895190Blaster charges by hitting environmental objects and has a quick melee plus its mode switch has a hitbox too. The fact it gives you a fuck ton of range is valuable, especially against aerial enemies since it disposes of them before they even get in range of attacking you.
>>739893118The only person here I watch is Barry.
>>739895190I really enjoy the blasters melee mode as it reminds me off alttp sword angles. The melee charge is also basically links charge attack except you dont strafe
>>739894793Try using the drill sub-weapon and the trinket that lets you float.
am i supposed to be able to beat this guy at the start of the game or is buying 2 weapons a thing i'm only supposed to do super late game
>739890812not my problem
I'm liking the game a lot.I get it's a mix of Zelda and Castlevania, but I would've preferred it to veer towards Zelda a bit more.One sub-weapon at a time is annoying for puzzles, and I'd like there to be a distinction between outdoors and dungeons
>>739896296Subweapon system is terrible unless it improves later. It's basically everything wrong about all subweapon systems rolled into one game.
>>739896407There's a number of QoL upgrades you can buy that address almost everything there is to complain about with it. I assume they're available pretty early but I didn't find them until I was wandering aimlessly after my fourth dungeon
This shit feels like a cheat code for combat
like 80% the kears I've used were used accidentally, I wish there was a button prompt for using them instead of automatic use when you walk too close
>>739883443
>>739897651Yeah that's a huge issue with the key system, and some seemingly lead nowhere.
>>739897623it's pretty great but i've also speedwalked into hazards on more than one occasion because of it
>>739896057If you create lava paths from the lava at the top of the boss arena it nerfs his defense and makes it doable.
Honestly the game seems to be built around every annoying mechanic ever dreamed up. >Sub weapons that you need to find in arbitrary locations to solve puzzles>limited use keys that are both needed for progression and side games stuff. >the leveling system from Zelda II Not to mention getting knocked around like a pinball in platforming challenges with moving platforms in the dark. They must have done something right because I'm still playing it.
The green dash subweapon is too strong, holy shit.
After spending some more time with it, I think I'm glad I didn't switch to easier difficulties. Unlike Silksong, this game actually makes you stronger over time, so what seemed like annoyingly difficult eventually becomes far more manageable. It seems to be one of those games where the beginning is the most difficult part.
>>739894292I messed around with the others and have gone back to hammer. It has a very nice flow of playing hit and run with the charge swings. It feels very much like a 2D Monster Hunter weapon.
>>739899516>filtered by silkkinolmfao
>>739888472If that's the one I'm thinking of, look under the tracks somewhere in that room.
Surely this won't have any consequences, right?
>>739899516Yeah the game is way better than Silksong regarding progression. The subweapon system is just as ass though.
I like that the "quests" so far are just talking to people at key locations. Maybe give them money. Rescue an NPC and it's now another function in the town. That kind of stuff. What filtered me in Silksong more than anything else was adding actual fetch quests. Who the fuck wanted that shit? The first Hollow Knight had it right.
Someone said there were color filters? I didn't find it in the options. I'd rather play in b&w than with this horrible palette
>>739899516>Unlike Silksongyou absolutely delete the game once you get the wanderer's crest what are you talking about
>>739899764Modifiers under Visual
>>739899764its in the modifiers menu, under visual
>>739899516Questionable design choice to have the hardest part of the game be the early game when normalfags are most likely to ditch.
everything looks like a nail when you have a big enough hammer
is the fish boss supposed to just be hard as balls or am I missing some gimmick? I got that hitting it with the fishing pole lets you damage it but it doesn't do that much damage
Septemburg might have the best theme so far
>>739854128I mix that with the 2 extra estus and raised minimum health regen trinket and the enemies give you more estus charge with an over meter to effectively stay alive for way longer than my skill allows, along with the one that brings you back to life and the one that grabs your spark 50% of the time and saves half your bones if it fails when you have no sparks left.
>>739855495The trick I found was to just stay in place and jump attack spam over the daggers it throws using the whip at maximum distance.
>>739899820Wanderer, Architect with overdose and Clawline are the only real power boosts in Silksong which sucks shit for a 60 hours game.
Does the game save my progress every screen if I want to quit or do I have to always reach a safe room?
>>739901107My biggest gripe with Silksong is it is labeled as a metroidvania when it's very clearly just a 2D action game with souls-like elements. The progression I expect from a metroidvania doesn't really exist in that game. Which is fine, but it is a little misleading.
>>739901375The manual literally says it saves every screen. You can see the save icon pop up in the bottom right when you move to a new screen.
>>739901546Nice, thanks. I don't like to read.
>>739901505I'd say it's a very crushing issue for such a big game. Most of the charms are ass, and even then a half of them are bound to vendors instead of exploration, so most of the time your "reward" for exploring levels is a bunch of shell shards hanging atop a spike pit.
>>739901725Yeah, doing stuff to get money to then buy a thing doesn't really hit the dopamine button quite like doing stuff to directly get a thing.
Should I play this or Shovel Knight first?? Haven't played either, but I'm itching to play either one.
>>739900420It's the only boss so far where I had to learn the patterns and respect the attacks, but I think you're misunderstanding why the fishing pole works.
The bone beach boss was kinda annoying but getting a gun upgrade was worth it.
>>739902452Never played Shovel Knight myself and I'm enjoying it, never felt like I'm missing previous knowledge.
>>739902452It's really just a matter of what style of gameplay you prefer since the games aren't actually connected (as far as I know). Shovel Knight is a 2D sidescrolling action platformer while Mina is a top-down almost-Zelda-like with some souls-like elements. Mina is cheaper than Shovel Knight by 20 bucks though. It's up to you.
>>739896296Like the other guy said, there's upgrades that help with all of that. And as far as changing subweapons for puzzles, all you need is the drill. And you can keep it 24/7 forever with some early upgrades.
>>739903342I love the fog sprayer too much. That thing absolutely wrecks big targets and bosses.
>>739899629There are some.. positive consequrences my friend. Maybe you'll find it out somewhere nearby later.
>>739903342For me it's the fishing rodI should try out the drill though, I've never even test fired it.
I identify as nonbuynary
>>739903527You can genderbend the knights?
>find some guy trying to find his love at the crypt>reached a dead end with a statue and a pipe leading to the graveyardWhere do I go now?
>>739903768yes, and pick their pronouns between he, she and they independently of their sprite
>>739904013Yeah yeah whatever, I don't care about that because what I'm gathering here is I can beat women instead of men. Shovel Knight ryona was never anything I expected.
>>739903768its just another one of the random extremely high effort things they did for shovel knight for free because it was a kickstarter stretch goal over a decade ago and which definitely cost more than it was presented as costing
lol
>>739904248>98% decrease in active players from peakyikes...
>>739853681So is Mina the size of a real mouse and everything is just small or she's just a huge rat?
>>739904664it's like animal crossing rules where the animal people are sized relative to their real life counterparts somewhat (a mouse is smaller than a lion) but the variance isn't that bigthe town has regular people but she's shorter than most of them
in the last 24 hours silksong had more players than a game released yesterday
>>739904248>Mina's peak is still increasing>shitsong lost 99% of its peakMousebros, we just keep winning
>>739904735Hus so she's a fuckable mouse isn't it?
>>739904949yea
>>739855145You buy them from a shop in the city
>>739904405Silksong right now is DLC waiting room
>>739905074Are people actually expecting DLC for Silksong? I thought Silksong was pretty much the end product.
PC or Switch 2?
>>739905232PC for the inevitable mods
>>739903803Look around for things to break, things to burrow into and so forth. You aren't exactly far from the end.
>>739905119Sea of Sorrow was announced a couple months after release
>>739903803If you found the headless statue, that's where you need to ultimately go. You just need to find the head.
>>739905332Damn they just can't stop making more. I gotta respect the grind.
i kinda don't want to play this game, look at this fucking pixels, why does is need to be so ugly
>>739905268Yeah but how does it feel playing with a pro switch controller vs a keyboard?
The visual feedback/time window on these kind of jumps is kinda fucked, otherwise great gameboy zelda/souls combination so far, having a blast.
>>739905579>PC = keyboardAnon......PCs have easily supported all modern controllers for well over a decade now.
>>739905642a blast from the past
>>739905232just pirate it on pcthere's no reason to waste money on this thing
>>739905734black lives do matter tho
>yatch club games>the ceo is seething at the low sales >he can't afford a yatch >he can't even afford to keep the studio alive
>>739890497yes,hard to navigate game is hard to navigate, hate not knowing if i'm going the right way
>>739905734What did BLM do with that money, pray tell.
>>739906048aside from bailing out criminals, thisshovel knight money literally went into this
>>739906021He couldn't even afford to keep his grill.
>there's a waiting period before you actually get the items you buy from PaninoI shouldn't have put this off
>739906021>autist that was never loved enough by mommy and daddy>has to make up fanfiction to feel better about himselfevery time
>>739906048bitches and weed nigga.
>get to the section with combined wind, lightning, and chase from the Carving ManThe controls in this game are truly horrific.
health mechanic is not fun
>>739906490filtered
>>739906142that's so based, chuds stay seething
>>739906504Nigger what? Like HAVING health? What the fuck does this mean? Do you want the game to have no lose condition?
Even marathon has more players than this thing that just released
>>73986094515 colors, in the year of our lord 2026>>739864456what are specifiacally you talking about? the piles of shit? the red bricks or the purple blob?
>>739906661retard
>>739906734You don't understand they're all on the Switch 2 version. Totally.
>>739853347>content
>>739906782I'll assume I'm correct since you dodged the question.
>>739906734it doesn't thougheverbeit
>>73990688350 IQ, at least half the neurons in your brain just aren't firing
>>739906734It literally doesn't.
>I get to enjoy kino mouse game AND watch retards melt down and claim the game is LE FLOPPINGNice.
To be fair >giving the game to reviewers/ content creators>IGN and all the other jewish controlled industries giving it a 10/10 >Jewish people like Jason Schreier supporting itIt's really fucking weird. Makes the game feels worse mid. Just another mediocre jewish experiment.
>>739907036I do find the reception from "professional" reviewers to be strange.
Man, why is every thing in the shops so fucking expensive
making XP into something that you find as part of secrets and just collect around the world is such a simple concept that feels nice, im surprised I havent seen it more
>>739907108It's not strange at all, review scores are based on 1) hype2) whether the dev is in the clique or notThe actual game doesn't matter.
>>739907036>woke studio spending money on woke shit gets approval from woke journosit's not a surprise
>>739907036>>739907108Yacht Club is one of the darlings of the indie games. Games Journalists have a vested interest in them not imploding due to them blowing all their money on Santa Monica office space.
>>739907214Yeah but the game itself is an actual video game which, to a game journalist, is usually like what holy water is to a vampire.
>>739907314>cheap zelda+souls ripoff with poor balancing and cheats to compensate>actual video game
>>739905642The trick for these is to just release the button while you are under the fence and mina will automatically jump out as soon as you pop out the other side.
>>739907108It's the professional and the not-professional content creatorsEarly Access is a mistake, it rapes the fans that supported the product, it's anti-consumer.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTAuPRTJsGI
Pretty nice bone farming spot outside septemburg here. 4 enemies for 450 bones and a save point to reset on the same screen.
>>739907417How does a 10 million dollar game end up looking like this? jesus christthere are much better games made for less than 1/10 of the budget
>739907823stop saving images of trannies to your hard drive, polfag
I think the funniest part is that millions were spent on "building a community" and other marketing mumbo jumbo which means they're heavily shilling the game instead of using that money to make a good game people actually want to buy
>>739907823>Xitter reaction image>Mentally retarded line of questioningGo back.
>>739907969this game had absolutely no marketing, retard
>>739907859>>739907986>trannies bad>anyway let me shill this tranny gamelol
>>739905579im playing on my pc with my switch 1 controller
>>739908093>this game had absolutely no marketing, retardgiving an early copy to shit eatersEvery single IGN/Sony controlled jew journalist site giving it a 10 >this game had absolutely no marketing, retard>this game had absolutely no marketing, retard
>>739907417Man I had a feeling the big mouse dude at the start was gonna become a regular enemy but still i gotta say hell fucking nah
>>739908093wrong, it had the same marketing as mixtape
>>739908093it is, you fuckface
>>739906490You did buy the trinket that makes you immune to lightning strikes right? That whole area is a breeze with that thing on.
Someone just gave me a nintendo gift card, could buy the game right now but I'm nonbuynary for itYatch club games can go bankrupt. I'll probably just buy ufo 50
Mina is fun and I'm enjoying my playthrough. Done 3 generator already and trinkets have basically fixed most small complaints or problems I had about things. The health regen is still very wonky though, I am not a fan. The trinket that lets you overflow plasma sort of takes care of it, but still. It takes so long to drink (without the trinket that makes it faster) that it's hard to heal, and the wonky "got to hit enemies to recover" thing (without the trinket that fixes it) is inconvinient during platforming or when you take multiple hits of damage in a row sometimes.The sidearm system is also a bit wonky, but the QoL upgrades make you able to just have the drill on 24/7 which adds wonderful mobility but it's also kind of lame how every other sidearm sucks except a select few for just doing damage to bosses like axe. Anyway, neat little game. You all should definetly just play it and give it a go. Gets easier the more upgrades you get.
I kinda like that I have a reason to remember where the side weapons are and when I reach a point where one is needed I go somewhere to pick it up instead of everything being so convenient.
>>739908165"early game boss becomes normal enemy later on" is one of the oldest RPG tropes. I like it. Helps reinforce how much you've grown since the start of the game.
How exactly does the persistent sidearm thing work? Mine just keeps the drill even though I changed it for the dash one. Or will it refresh once I die with the dash arm?
>>739908414Why did you post in this thread then? On page 10 no less. You've definitely been here the whole time.
>>739908161>>739908170>Being reviewed by companies that review video games is paid marketingyou're just confirming how retarded the average hater for this game is
>>739908804You jump into the hole in front of it to store a copy of your current sidearm and it just keeps it there all the time until you switch it to something else by jumping into the hole with a different one.
>>739908883too disingenuous, at least try to sound honest if you want to be taken seriously
>>739908804Nevermind, just died and got my answer, kek. It's the latter.
