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Considering the Quality of Abyss, Ringed City, and Old hunters, it is safe to say that this shit was ass
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I really really like the Brume Tower
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when is this shit going on sale? elden ring wasn't very good, I don't wanna pay full price for more of it
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>>739857678
Ringed City is fucking terrible
SotE is just like the base game in that it's a few really good dungeons amongst a mediocre open world
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I like it more than Ringed City. The Ringed City level itself was kinda whatever, pretty disappointing and you just reach the end (the cathedral) unceremoniously. I liked the level at the start all the way to the end of earthen peak more. Demon Princes were great though, Midir was alright though he just spams the same charge attack over and over which means you’ll rarely ever see his ultimate laser move, Bayle is way better. Gael is good too, I always liked him. Spears of the Church is only fun when I’m the spear, I don’t care about fighting the offline NPC or whoever I come against while playing online and it’s also funny how the fight can just give you a free victory if your internet is shit or the queue is dead.
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>>739857678
Sote is peak
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>>739857678
Old Hunters > Abyss > SotE > DS2 DLCs >>>>>>>>>>> ringed shitty
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Ringed City and Shadow of the Erdtree were both ass.
Drab looking, brown, piss filter shitholes with nonsensical lore and a heavy reliance on artificial difficulty.
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>>739860092
You didn't play either.
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>>739857678
Joy in my heart that every single reply is dunking on Ringed Shitty. What a horrible end to an already horrible game.
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>>739862261
sadly, I did
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>>739857678
Not a fan of Ringed City, much prefer Sunken King.
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Ringed City hate thread, let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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>>739857678
>ringed swamp
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>>739858062
Torrent
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>>739857678
what killed was having go grab tree fragments in order to do any meaningful damage to the bosses.
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How is Ringed City at the bottom for you guys when Ashes of Ariandel consist of an uninteresting npc invader and his oversized copy paste puppy masquerading as one of only two (2) bosses. Yeah Friede is an excellent boss and a real spectacle but that alone doesnt save her dlc.
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>>739864024
The level was good but it shouldn’t be the same price as the other DLC. I don’t mind it cause I got all of DS3 and the DLC for like $10 and it’s kinda obvious that both DLCs were gonna be merged at one point like Old Hunters was because they connect to each other both with that bonfire after Friede and plotwise.
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>>739864024
DS3's DLCs are bad on their own but good as a collection.
They should not have been chopped up.
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>>739864024
Ariandel was also shit but it's less offensive because it's only like an hour long, and mostly contained new enemies.
Ringed City copy-pasted loads of shit from the base game and has like 3 fucking swamps.
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>>739857678
the first DLC from ds3 is still by far the worst of all of them
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>greatest boss in video game history
>ass
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DS2 had the best DLCs. Well maybe not the one with the moldy dragon, but Ivory king, Sir Alone, and Fume Knight are the coolest and only matched by Artorias and Gael in the other two games.
Old hunters is proto DS3 with the same repetitive enemy and boss design if the base game.
As far as SotE is concerned, the problem is the same as with base ER, it's just too big and has too much rubbish between some highs that are some of the best content From has ever made.
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>>739864024
Ahes disn't overstay its welcome, wasn't tedious to go through, and most importantly didn't introduce a bunch of convoluted fanfic-tier lore.
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sote was pointlessly large where you're riding the horse through literally nothing for minutes at a time, in a way that not even the base game really did outside of a few areas
I liked most of the bosses a lot, it's a shame they wasted them on a fuckhueg for no reason map
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>>739864449
Cool design, shitty moveset
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>>739864553
I liked the first 2 dlcs for ds2 a lot, they were surprisingly high quality
the snow one can suck my fucking ass, only thing that is good about it is the Ivory King fight
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>>739864553
If you're a nigger who treats the games as a boss rush then I can see how you might have this opinion
DLC1 is the only part of DS2 that has actually good level design. DLC2 has 2 good bosses. DLC3 has Maldron and nothing else of value
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>>739857678
A friendly reminder that the Japanese rate this DLC appropriately.
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>>739864813
Anglosaxons are irredeemable goyslop-munchers
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>>739864813
Japs are turbo casuals who just grind through these games. they can't do this in SOTE because you need to engage with skibidi frags to do that so they get frustrated.
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>>739864449
He's fun.
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I don't remember if I ever even finished Ringed City. I might have beaten Gael once but I definitely never did Midir
I remember it being a big slog especially bc I already really didn't like the first DLC and then when they put a trash NPC boss right before the end I just lost any fucks I still had to give about it
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>>739864928
Why is it that japs are either ultimate god gamers or the shittiest to ever play? There’s no inbetween.
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>>739857678
>Considering the Quality of Abyss, Ringed City, and Old hunters, it is safe to say that this shit was ass
It's infinitely better than Artorias, I don't get the meme that SotE was bad
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>elden ring is a massive hit
>way too long and with some bullshit enemies, but tons of gameplay and content
>they make a dlc, awesome
>but they lock it behind a boss only 40% of players have beaten
i still don't get that decision
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>>739864559
>Ahes disn't overstay its welcome
>there is too much frosting on my cake, I hate it
>my steak was too tender
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>>739857678
Replaying it right now and it's pure lvdokino, OP (faggot) got filtered as per usual.
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>>739865458
This is non-issue. People who wouldn’t bother to even beat Mohg wouldn’t play the DLC.
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>>739864449
cucked by the camera aka shitmera, otherwise based as fuck
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>>739865458
ringed city was locked behind getting to the final boss or beating friede
that's a new thing for them to do
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The only good DLC Fromsoft ever made was The Old Hunters
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>>739857678
it's very clearly some half-finished shit even by from software standards, most of it doesn't even make sense without double the normal mental gymnastics

>>739865230
midir is probably mid (heh) by today's standards but his anime beam attack/powerup was incredible to see unspoilered
the fight is a massive slog that all but requires you to respec to faith in order to solo, unless you want to level outside pvp range or roll slop for an entire hour
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>>739865684
I beat him third try solo but I had the Farron Greatsword which I later learned did more damage to him because he’s a Humanity Dragon or something. Since he ate pygmies a lot, I think.
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>>739857678
>shits on Shadow of the Kinotree while trying to sneak Apiss and Pinged Shitty with Old Chads like we wouldn't notice
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>>739865656
>>739865458
And the Dark Souls DLC is behind OnS and the Basin Hydra, plus extra steps
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the meltdown around messmer when this first released was crazy. literally the fairest and most fun boss in the dlc next to romina
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old hunters > ds2 dlc 1 and 2 > sote >>>>>>>>>>> the rest of them

artorias of the abyss kind of sucks ass outside of the titular boss fight. All the other bosses suck and the area as a whole isn't particularly good (it is better than the rest of DS1's awful post-lordvessel areas though)
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>>739865684
>Respec to faith
Or just spam pestilent mist. 30 INT requirement but you can lower that to 25 with a ring. For a lot of builds that's still a respec, but whatever works.
Takes less than 5 minutes. Not the fastest run you can get but it's entirely reliable and doesn't turn into a slog.
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>>739865990
I don’t remember people being mad about him. I remember Rellana struggling but that was just because people didn’t upgrade skibidi, and Radahn hate. That still goes on now, actually. But even when his fight leaked right after Radahn’s (yeah the order was fucked) people went
>this boss looks cool
and then people fought him and the boss was very good. If anything the biggest problem with the fight is how his snake head in phase two gives him a double hitbox so you deal double damage.
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>>739865990
messmer is kino
honestly of the main bosses the only one I have a problem with is fucking Radahn, just pure trash. The main problem with SoTE is the map and the filler content
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>>739866184
I actually just poked radahan to death with a spear. I beat the game.
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>>739866249
They give you the best shield in the game right before that fight for a reason I guess
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>>739863807
thank you for reminding me of the smartest anti piracy measure of the 21st century
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>>739866184
my problem with radahn is that he hard counters the iconic mid roll semi armored guy with a straight sword and a kite shield. fast roll makes him easier and great shield spear poking completely trivializes him.
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>>739857678
Ringed city was very mid, it was a BIG "member this"? then sloppa swamp.
PvP boss was sweet tho, trolling duos with regen and one-shot riposte was fun as fuck

SotE had its moments but a lot of it feels empty as fuck, plus, tons of "just more dragon lmao". SotE would've benefitted from ditching the overworld, that, btw, sucks to invade as you have empty wide fields where thirdworlders lag to shit and there is nothing to play arround with, and staying indoors on legacy dungeons connected by smaller more focused fields
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Is nightreign any good?
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>>739867198
it's an okay roguelite
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>>739867198
Solo? FUCK NO unless you're lookign to actually soloing the game
With 1-2 friends? very fun, cool bosses, a bit overpriced imho
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>>739864449
I hate the lightning phase where it just zaps you constantly on interval and ragdolls you, and often times does this exactly when he finished a combo and it's your turn to play the game for a second, but you spend it rolling away from lightning spam

I have never fought the death blight one, I just kill it with arrows.
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>>739867496
>friendslop
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>>739864449
>that absolutely retarded attack animation where he slams his head into the ground, looks for all the world like he's giving the player an opening, only to somehow magically punish the player by lifting his fucking head up
He's the greatest encapsulation of everything wrong with nu-From, that's for sure. Spectacle and difficulty slop over anything resembling good gameplay.
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>>739867735
you kinda need a static group when the game requires at least 2 players to be decently skilled to get anywhere
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>>739867850
Bssed
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>>739867881
I have no friends and I'm in OCE so I'm afraid its probably destination fucked on that one
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>>739857678
Ringed City was actually awful value for the time. Old Hunters Artorias also offer absolutely nothing but boss battles, most of which aged like milk. Crown of the old iron king is still the best FromSoftware DLC.
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>>739868284
>2 okay bosses and the worst level design in the game which is the worst in the series at level design
>best
lmao
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>>739867198
It's fun, and not to bad with randoms. I've reached the highest possible score in the ranked mode with exclusively randoms, depth2/4 were the worst.
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>>739868475
I found all Dark Souls 2 DLCs boring and terrible, played through them all and I struggle to remember anything about it
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Old Hunters > SoTE > AotA > Ringed City > power gap the size of infinity > Dark Souls fucking 2's godawful dlc
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>>739868284
>Crown of the old iron king is still the best FromSoftware DLC.
that DLC was absolute dogshit, you're crazy.
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Play Sony Computer Entertainment, Japan Studio, and FromSoftware kino

>2001 Ico
>2005 Shadow of the Colossus
>2009 Demon's Souls
>2011 Dark Souls
>2015 Bloodborne
>2016 The Last Guardian
>2019 Sekiro
>2022 Elden Ring
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>>739868551
Yeah but to put it bluntly I'm not very good and I think people would get annoyed with me. Its for sure a strange choice to make a souls like multiplayer. I enjoyed ER so much I'm thinking about a switch 2 just for the new fromsoft gamer
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>>739868475
>>739868572
>>739868654
>It's le bad because I actually have to play the levels and can't run past through everything
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>>739868707
yeah then I'm not too sure if you'd enjoy it. I don't mind reviving people, but if they go down like 6 times in a boss fight it's a bit annoying. I'll still revive them though. I'd say get it during a sale and try it, since it is really fun. I had a friend gift it to me since I had no faith in it, and now I've put 500 hours into it.
>>739868815
it's bad because there's a million fucking enemies in the runbacks and the bosses are no where near good enough to make it worthwhile.
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>>739868815
>It's le good because it's shit
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>>739868815
>defending the sir alonne runback
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>>739868886
>the bosses are no where near good enough to make it worthwhile
Found the rollslopper. If you actually bothered to learn that primary defense in DS2 is strafing and not rolling, you'd know the Fume Knight is the absolute peak of the genre.
>>739868952
Lifegems
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I gave up on beating Messmer without the Mimic. Everyone told me he had low HP but I had 10 Scadutree fragments, a +10 Poleblade and the fucker just took way too long to proc bleed once Phase 2 started. Also his hitboxes were shit for the snakes.
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>>739868886
Yeah I mean I was just running about with a greatsword and lions claw in the base game, got ok by the end of the game I guess but I was for sure making the mimic do some heavy lifting while I just concentrated on damage for the mid game. Might do a run with dual blades though because the mobility and fighting style looks cool, then maybe I could try it
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>>739857678
yeah
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>>739867850
Just dodge damn dude.
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>>739867198
Yeah it has some good bosses though one of them, Everdark Libra, is cancer. If you play with friends and one of them three bars just give up unless you have revenant.
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>>739869113
as long as you're not going down literally every fight, you can coast by letting the other two guys do the work/routing.
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>>739869342
everdark libra is great, it's like a mario party boss
>spawned three enemies
>arena now split in four quadrants
>spawns can now aggro/fight each other
>using a flask de-levels you by one
if you can't beat him you're shit, simple as
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>>739869364
Yeah but also over relying on an op ash of war isn't so great, I've watched clips of other players, consistent dps is the go, I just didn't like not using the poise damage system of a larger weapon. Might just go for another playthrough of the base game and learn how to fight in a more reliable way.
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>>739869530
> over relying on an op ash of war isn't so great
that's the meta in the ranked mode. get a good ash of war, melt everything. you can't do enough DPS otherwise typically
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Dark Souls / Dark Souls 2 / Elden Ring

>Estus is greater than grinding grass and blood vials
>More diverse locations
>Open-world
>Most weapons are samey and reskin
>Lots of bosses (most are jank)
>The massive decline in quality after Anor Londo / Leyndell
>DLCs are the highlight of the games

Demon's Souls / Bloodborne / Dark Souls 3

>Better level design
>Better NPCs and their respective quests
>Quality over quantity (Less is more)
>Hub area (Nexus, Hunter's Dream, Firelink)
>Level up waifu (Maiden in Black, Doll, Firekeeper)
>Boletaria, Yarnham and Lothric and its surroundings feel like one place and have the same cool atmosphere throughout the game
>Dark Souls 3 borrows a lot from Demon's Souls
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>>739869674
>Dark Souls 3
>Better level design
lmao, didnt read the rest
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>>739869481
It’s the only boss I swap characters for because the Wylder summons are too annoying. The fight is easy solo and then it’s the only fight that can snowball into being unwinnable at all in multiplayer which makes it bad.
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>>739857678
Shadow of the Erdtree is amazing, even if Miquella was having a depressed cutter mental breakdown and chasing after his gay crushes.
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>>739871706
Actually gutted I didn't get a picture of the "heart stolen" death animation
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>>739857678
yes
the areas are cool, but it's shit for two reasons
the first is scat fragments turning subsequent playthroughs into a collect-a-thon, It's terrible power progression
the second is that From has obviously ran out of ideas on how to make more challenging fights for an ever improving player base whilst limiting themselves to the traditional 'souls' formula. I think there's maybe 2-3 bosses that are actually fun to fight in the DLC. Another problem is some encounters are obviously designed to be fought with ash summons in mind - the problem with that being ash summons are not fun to use inherently and probably my #1 most disliked thing about elden ring in general



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