>>739857793Yeah like the milk i squeezed from your mom's titties last night
>>739857793Wrong pic
>>739857842A game can't age like milk after 3 years
>>739857894it can and it has.
>>739857894Why not? Milk ages grotesquely after about 8 hours?
>>739857793>food analogygames don't age.
>>739857793And yet, people still talk about it.
>>739857793Played it for the first time in 2021 through the pc decomp and felt the opposite, everything felt extremely polished and better than 99% of modern games
>>739857793played it for the first time recently and it was peak, late zoomers be malding
It aged like milk
>>739858056True. Thank God we got Royal
>>739857894A game can't age at all similar to how you can't mentally.
I am enjoying it except jabu jabu's belly makes me unironically motion sick. I hope I can finish that dungeon quick
>>739858037I think it's millenials/boomers that make these threads
>>739857793That’s why Nintendo is remaking it.
>>739858108Worst dungeon
>>739857793Milk can age into yogurt and yogurt is delicious. I rest my case.
>>739857793Not gonna lie, it's true. Pixel games have a degree of visual sustainability over time. Not perfect, but still. First generation polygon systems looked fucking terrible. Very few exceptions exist, but OOT is not one of them. Not to mention how clunky the game was. It's not a terrible game. But it did age bad.
>>739857793>STOP LIKING OOT STOP IT STOP IT STOP ITMillions of times over the past 20 fucking years
>>739857793I played the 3DS remake in 2013 or whatever and it was fine then. It's ugly though.
>>739858320it's not clunky, you are a retard
I'm a zoomer and I'm waiting for the remake
>>739858056Fuck Atlus
>>739858497Why? I appreciate the accessibility
>>739858497Are 16yos more mature proto white man land?
>>739858610in English
>>739858320It's hard for me to be unbiased because I did grow up with the game but I think the N64 Zelda games are among the few exceptions to early 3D games aging poorly, they still look and play fine imo. Like obviously the graphics are very dated but far from unplayable, and they're stylized well enough to still look quite charming. The 3DS version also exists if you really can't handle retro graphics. I'm not sure how I'd feel if I hadn't grown up with it, but I have a far easier time going back to Ocarina than say, MGS1 or even Mario 64. And it's really not clunky at all.
>>739858751I can still enjoy the old Armored Core and Resident Evil games so I don't give a single fuck about clunkiness
>>739858163>get vored through sucky tubes>lots of places to hide and fuck the princess >free lube, just scoop some off the wall >worstGive me a break, homo
>>739858665Sorry I'm indian
>>739858320>smoothest controlling game of all time>clunky
>>739857793Mega Man Legends was always the better game. That one also still holds up.
>>739858991DUDE SEX LMAO
>>739858401Yes it is you retard.
>>739858892I don't mind clunky games either I just don't even think Ocarina is clunky. It still plays very smoothly.
>>739859284you are actually subhuman of you believe this
>>739857793Gameplay and music are still good, graphics and story are shit though.
>>739859575The story is the best part about it, one of the few games that made me cry at the end
>>739857793All Zelda games are painfully mediocre when looked at by todays lens. Even BotW and TotK
Plays fine on anything that goes above the 20 FPS limit. Only the vanilla N64 version has "aged", and that's able to be patched for Redux and higher FPS.
>>739859575The story is perfect for what it is, it's not like some literary masterpiece but it serves the game perfectly. And the theme of loss of innocence as an adult is done very well.
>>739857793>It aged like milk So it' rich yogurt or sharp smokey cheddar? Yum.
>>739858056Can you really say that about a game which is still popular a decade later? Like every year it seems like P5's gotten another million sales, clearly people like it.
CURSE YOU, SAGESCURSE YOU, ZELDACURSE YOU, Link
>>739859069>20 fps>smoothest controls of all time holy nostalgia goggles
>>739857793somehow this is not just a hot take, you will be crucified for it online because it is le wrongthink when it is just true.
>>739859853nobody is playing the game at 20fps in 2026
>>739859575>he doesn't like low poly chunkiness
>>739859964OoT and FFVII have a critical mass of nostalgia goggled middle aged dudes continuously affirming them as the best games ever made.
>>739859481Sorry but it's the truth.
>>739860002I always play the original first. If it's only good in a remake, it's deeply flawed at best. Which is OOT in a nutshell.
idk why people say it is clunkyit feels the same as elden ring
>>739860246It's not flawed. The only "improvement" you can get from a remake is that the PC port has a higher framerate. Not that there's anything wrong with the original framerate; your eyes get used to 20 FPS before you've even entered the first dungeon.
They should make a sequel
>>739860246I don't know if PC decomps really count as a remake but ok.
>>739860380Well of course they don't because it's just the game code decompiled to a computer readable language like C.
>>739860002I literally cannot play this game in a framerate higher than 20 fps default because throws me off so badly that it's unplayable if it's any higher.
>>739860246>he doesn't play the native pc version
>>739860165genre defining games tend to be held in high regard, yes.
>muh fpskys
>>739860535>it defined a genre!this isn't an argument for whether or not a video game is good, and it never has been.
>>739860360It's got some fairly noticeable bugs as well, or at least I noticed more with Ocarina than any of the other 3D Zelda. It's not a bad game but it's really just a rough first crack at 'lttp but in 3d'
>>739860694It kinda is though.
>>739860781What in particular? I know about the speedrun strat bugs like bomb hovering and infinite sword glitch, but I don't think I've ever randomly encountered a glitch in N64 Ocarina of Time.Ironically, I did accidentally find a glitch in the 3DS remake where playing Saria's Song to Mido in the Lost Woods can softlock the game and force you to reset.
>>739860535>genre defining gameslol
>>739860535They're both the previous title but in 3D, and in both cases they're a lot less polished than the original. They defined genres for you because you're in your 30s.
contrarian retard general
>>739859069tendie, please play more games. im begging you at this point
contrarian retard general in the contrarian retard board no way
>>739857842>>739857894>3 yearsBreath of the Wild is a Wii U game you nigger. The Sequel is an asset flip DLC sold to retards made on the same technology from 2017. Nintendo has had NINE YEARS of the same faggy zelda game.
>>739860781>it's really just a rough first crack at 'lttp but in 3d'it still hasn't been topped. WW and TP are rushed and far more flawed than OOT is. MM, SS or the Switch games really aren't attempting to be like LTTP at all. OOT might have more glitches sure but very few you're likely to encounter playing naturally. most you have to go out of your way to make happen.
>>739861093Why are you crying about companies being smart with technology? Are you going to shit your pants about AI next then cry on bluesky?
>>739861284>>739861259>AGREE WITH ME OR YOU'RE A DIRTY CONTRARIAN!!!when did this place just become reddit 2.0?
>>739861327LttP but in 3D was basically Ocarina through Twilight Princess, not counting side titles. Twilight Princess is the most polished of the bunch even if it's not iconic. >but it's rushedYeah, yeah, we know the formula. You don't have to spend 30 hours on 'world of darkness, so deep'
>>739859575>story are shitbrown
>>739860360fucking pc port. you're not playing OoT at that point. you're playing some losers mod. just admitting you play that is saying the original game is flawed.
>>739861546most polished game doesn't necessarily mean the best. I love TP but it's very flawed in a lot of ways OOT isn't. having glitches (that you probably won't encounter anyway) isn't the only way a game can be flawed. TP has pacing issues, it has a weak story, it's extremely railroaded, among other things.
>>739861678retard
>>739858464It's going to be poo poo, fren.Play Ship of Harkinian instead.
>>739857793Yep, its Uncslop. Shit millenials swear on god is still good but just doesn't hold up anymore to anyone under the age of 35.OoT goes into the same category as Morrowind, Half-Life, Deus Ex, SOTN.
>>739861093It's not about creating the tech, it's about making something fun with it.
I can only enjoy it randomized. And it's mostly the OoT+MM one, with a randomize song pack. Gotta love going into the Shadow Temple only to hear...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sH-l2xN3gU
>>739857793Ah the forced contrarian take, daring today are we?
>>739862001Its not even contrarian at this point, the only people this offends are old as shit, don't play game anymore, and their opinions don't matter.Its like calling Yar's Revenge shit, anyone old enough to disagree with you is some old bald dude who doesn't play games, same goes for OoT.
Ocarina is something that actually mostly deserves all the praise that it's been given. It really deserves to be at the top of any given the best of all time list, and there is as of yet no replacement for what it does in totality, in spite of there being a fair number of games that do individual things better than it.But no, I thing the idea that it's "aged" is bullshit. It's not that it doesn't have things that could be significantly or even massively improved over how it is, it has real flaws, but most of the things that are weak about it now were weak in 1998 and could always have been done better even on the N64 itself. It could always have had more aggressive enemies, NPCs with the depth of those in MM, more things to do in the field as an adult etc. and I'd hope the remake addresses these things and really pushes to do them better. Conversely, the things that other games have been able to pull off since, like massive open worlds, than OoT didn't do, are NOT places where that game is actually weak and which it would need to replicate to simply keep up with progress, the actual design of its world is awesome and punches way above its weight pound for pound. Walking out into the world and seeing the various areas seriously hits in ways that no open world game has been able to replicate since. The game does an excellent job of making the actual bounds of its world ambiguous, so you're seldom sure if there actually isn't more to it that you haven't discovered yet, in contrast to games that give you a 'box' that's big, but largely well defined. No game has a better day to night transition than it. It's genuinely unsurpassed.>>739858015I suspect a lot of people claiming it's 'clunky' either play through emulation or on the Switch, where it has a genuinely unreasonable amount of lag that gives a false impression of what it was like to play it originally.
>>739862187guaranteed i play more than you (not that that would be anything to boast about) and with some minor QoL through ship of harkinian, ocarina holds up perfectly fine and youre a cuck. back to marathon, little one.
>>739859853>>20 fpsLet me guess, you need more?
>>739857793...into a good hard cheese.
>>739860002Literally everyone who isn't playing it on the 3DS is. It fundamentally plays at 20FPS and all the ports just add in-between frames.
>>739861817To be fair, the game expects you to read a fair deal, which is an unfair and unreasonable expectation for zoomers
>>739863064Yeah, unless you're using Ship or a not-shit emulator (which most people STILL don't know how to set up, folks still run off to Mupen and Parallel on Retroarch and then complain that it's dogshit), OoT is kind of really poorly represented on many options. A lot of N64 games are, but OoT gets the rough of it. A game that feels great to play in the right circumstances getting extra input delay + shit emulation utterly screws it up, and on Switch especially these games just feel like you're chugging through water long before the Water Temple. Otherwise you basically nailed it on the head for the rest of the matters with the game's age, it's not that it "aged", it's that it was always this way and didn't exactly get worse over time, just more context with hindsight.
>>739861678Looks like OoT to mePersonally I keep the framerate capped at 20. It's fine at 20. I only ever uncap Majora's Mask for the postman minigame, then recap it after
>>739859284>Mega Man LegendsMan, way more people would probably play the games for real if you didn't keep trying to sell is as "better than OoT". It's great, but not to THAT extent, and trying to downplay OoT to one up this is just going to turn people off when they see how actually clunky it plays in comparison.
>>739861093I love how this chart avoids showing you the shitty original things that Nintendo improved on in order to imply that they actually compare to what the images are actually showing you. It's like a troll image that's actually legitimately showing off how much shit Nintendo was able to massively advance, and only weaking claiming this isn't the case.
>>739861697Nigger it's Zelda. They all have the same story. All these games have like two real characters max not counting Link, Zelda, and Ganon.
>>739863337If you hold it to the 'mods and remakes count' standard it's a better game. OG's controls are horrible.
>>739863337No, he's 100% correct, it plays better, it looks better, it came out first, it has better characters, better music, better atmosphere, better art direction, its flat out a better game across the board. It didn't have the Nintendo bonus, that's its only crime, millennials were wrong (just like they were with everything else), fell for the hype because they were a bunch of braindead drones with terrible taste in literally everything.
>>739857793TRVTH NVKE
>>739863706>Nigger it's Zelda.Yes, and Zelda has some of the best storytelling in the medium. I've yet to see another game pull off that MM does with its NPCs for instance.OoT specifically has a minimal plot, and doesn't need more, but the way it presents its story and themes and ultimately ties the entire experience together in the end is awesome and generally barely matched by most games with much more elaborate plots.
>>739863847Personally I wouldn't really compare the games. People do mostly because of a lock on mechanic that works completely different between the two and they're kinda action adventure in the same general genre. Legends 2 is more blatantly Zelda-like, but the first is just a straight platformer shooter with exploration elements. Has more in common with Metroidvania games in a loose way thanks to new weapons and power-ups enabling extra secrets and routes, but it's never done in the full committed sort of way.
>>739863137>guaranteed i play more than youI dunno man, lil zoomie probably has 200,000+ hours in Minecraft alone.
>>739863915>I've yet to see another game pull off that MM does with its NPCs for instance.You either:>have seen it but refuse to admit it's better because of MM nostalgiaor>you haven't played any games other than OoT and MM
>>739863706they're not really that similar other than some basic superficialities. Ocarina's story is extremely tight, TP feels like it's stitched together from 3 or 4 unrelated drafts. there's a bunch of threads that go nowhere, Ganon's inclusion is forced, Zelda does nothing. it rides hard on its vibes and Midna being likeable.
>>739864007I'm waiting for examples. Please do this at minimum so that there's even a reason to continue the conversation.
>>739863915>Zelda has some of the best storytelling in the mediumFUCKING KOLY KEK
>>739863915Rock, Roll, Tron, Barrel, Teisel are all more likable, fleshed out, and memorable than literally any characters in any Zelda game. The level of craft on display with the NPCs in Mega Man legends is a generation ahead of what OoT and MM are doing. You wouldn't see characters emoting on screen with voice overs on this level until the PS2-era, and Zelda as a franchise literally never reached its level TO THIS DAY.
>>739864186>The level of craft on display with the NPCs in Mega Man legends is a generation ahead of what OoTOoT, yesMM, no, that game surpassed MML in terms of making a game focused on a central town with highly interactive NPCs with meaningful storylines. MML was still really cool about this though, especially with the way buildings could get destroyed in the tokusatsu fights and you'd have to rebuild them if you fucked up to get access to their quest lines, but MM pushed further than it.>>739864176Still waiting on those examples of better executed NPC interaction.
It aged like milk. It is clunky and not even in color.
>>739864793this but unironically
>>739858892>I can still enjoy the old Armored CoreWhich one do you think was the best?
>>739864793Citizen Kane and OoT/MM share picrel in common
>>739857793It aged fine, not great, but fineIt still offers a fun experience, you're just suffering from meme spec brainrot, and conditioned to only like modern slop genres
>>7398649542: Another Age
>>739865160Cool I will emulate that one
>>739857793No, it aged fine. It's still a great game.Just nowhere near as great as it's been hyped up to be.
>>739864793True but only because everyone in the news is Kane now so it's no longer interesting.
i drink milk that ive left out at room temperature for 12+ hours i dont see tbe issue
2D > 3D
>>739867412did a jeet or a SEAmonkey write this shit? fucking unintelligible.
>>739857793>When a zoomer encounters anything older than the PS3
>>739857793I remember I begged my parents for that game and they finally bought it for me and it sucked ass. It was never good anon.
Milk?
A Link to the Past is a terrible game.
False.
>>739859748>>739859659Story is ass, none of the characters have any depth or motivation and the lore is hardly explained. The time travel doesn't make sense for two reasons, one, it has inconsistent rules, two the reason it exists in the first place is basically link wasn't "old enough" to be the hero of time, literally you aren't tall enough to ride bullshit (the real reason it exists was to make a contrived cutscene of young link becoming adult link for trailers, which looked cool but still doesn't make sense). It isn't explained what happens to the sages at the end and it wasn't explained until majora's mask what happens to young link which started all the timeline wankery, which is a legitimate piece of shit that stank up the franchise for years. the fans came up with a bunch of nonsense to fill in all the gaps in the ocarina of time lore and there's a consensus on what it is, but anything you make up is just as valid because nothing is explained. it's the shallowest shit possible and the more you think about it the more it falls apart. it's almost as bad as fallout 4 but for some reason people just accept it. it's got a bunch of emotional moments, but logically its a fuckin mess.>>739860059naw there are some low poly chunkyness games that held up over the years, ocarina of time aint one of them. look at zora river in particular for an example of disgusting
>>739868432Oot probably has the weakest story in the franchise if we're honest
>>739868432>basically link wasn't "old enough" to be the hero of time, literally you aren't tall enough to ride bullshit (the real reason it exists was to make a contrived cutscene of young link becoming adult link for trailers, which looked cool but still doesn't make sense).it''s thematic you fucking retard. the Zelda series is all about duality, light vs dark. in Ocarina it's the innocence of childhood contrasted with the struggle of growing up. you become an adult and the world literally becomes darker, the weight on your shoulders grows heavier. it's about loss of innocence and leaving behind the past. nobody gives a shit about muh time travel rules. the time travel is just a vessel for the themes.
>>739868432I genuinely can't imagine caring about story in a zelda game. It's literally bing bing wahoo-tier.
>>739857793uh, nyo?
>>739857894>he drinks 3 year old milk
>>739864793>not even in colort. Ted Turner's ghost
>>739868464funny thing is people gave twilight princess loads of shit at the time for basically being ocarina of time with better characters, lore and an actual story. not to say that it's flawless. biggest fuck up in the twilight princess story imo is when it turns out ganon was behind everything. the characters in the story have no reason to know who ganon is and for that matter there's no reason for zelda to exist. they just had to include ganon and zelda because franchise but there's no reason for them to be there and nothing for them to do beyond the final battle>>739868580horse shit, even if it is 'thematic' it still has to be adequately explained, it's a legit plot hole in the story that could have easily been lampshaded but wasn't. this is all your headcanon, even if the story has themes it still has to logical explanations as a framework to hang the themes upon, and OOT is lacking this framework>>739868669if it had a better story it would have been a better game>>739868464yeah tbqh though windwaker also has contrived bullshit for the sake of nothing plot elements but at least it has something, more than OoT at least. even skyward sword has a better central conflict than OoT though it's poorly executed
I had milk recently and honestly it still holds up, dunno what all the fuss is about
>>739857793We are always talking and complaining about games aging like milk or wine but how well did you age anon? did you atleast aged better than ocarina of time?
>>739857793A lot of the visuals look bad because it was intended to be played on a CRT monitor which helps blend a lot of the hard edges and handles color and lighting differently to modern monitors.A LOT of N64/PS1 era games look like hot ass these days because of this.
>>739857841FPBPOP is a gay faggot
"They say that players who select the 'HOLD' option for 'Z TARGETING' are the real 'Zelda players!'"
>>739859069tard, they aren't talking Breath of the Wild, I think the subject is Ocarina of Time, the old ass one.
>>739868669Problem is if you care for story, gameplay, graphics, puzzles, then you ain't going to be playing no Ocarina of Time at that point.
>>739868867>biggest fuck up in the twilight princess story imo is when it turns out ganon was behind everything.I disagree, I think it was really interesting the way it's handled. Zant is a big phony, that's why he adopts all the different boss strategies, and then finally resorts to swinging his arms wildly. Zant looks to Ganon as his god, a worshiper and a follower, and that makes Zant taking matters into his own hands finally and snapping Ganon's neck so poignant and satisfying. I don't think any other Zelda game has two villains, nor ties theme and narrative together so well.
>>739857841thread was over after thiswhy are retards STILL replying
>>739868432>Why does this literal magic follow mysterious and seemingly arbitrary rules?
>>739869239yeah but who the fuck is ganon in the context of the story, he comes out of nowhere and if you hadn't been aware of the iconography of the franchise up at this point you probably would have said who the fuck is this assrabbit?>themeholy fuck zelda tards throw this term out like they know what it means and they aren't just pulling shit out of their ass
>>739869341>yeah but who the fuck is ganon in the context of the storyZant's god, he was a nobody before Ganon, and now all of a sudden he outclasses Midna, the Twilight Princess, and she's confused how that could be possible even.
>>739869287oh no you cant seem to understand inconsistency as a bad thing when it comes to even magic being in a game universe, if you're going to establish magic as a plot element it has to has rules, which is why most of the plot of ocarina of time (less so with the other games but still present) is just pulling shit out of their asses for nintenderps to gobble up because they clap every time they see king arthur peter pan but retarded
>>739858108I can't even fathom being this much of a weakling. I struggled to find the right word to describe you since OoT doesn't even sniff Portal-tier gameplay.
>>739869407yeah so he comes out of nowhere and isn't explained, we haven't got a clue who he is. he could have easily been replaced by some other primordial evil, it doesn't make sense for him to be some arabic guy from the other games. the gerudo aren't even in twilight princess, how is he relevant at all?
>>739867412this one aging poorly is true though. threepenny opera/beggar's opera is just a straight up better version of macbeth.
>>739869516That's not true, it's talked about several times, and by the halfway point you know to expect him when he is clearly shown to have survived execution in Arbiter's Grounds. We know that he is Zant's God, we know Zant went from powerless to bodying the Twilight Princess, and Zelda herself had to sacrifice herself to bring her back from the brink, that's just the subborbant's power.
>>739869414>"You can only become the Hero of Time when you're an adult" is totally incoherent and inconsistent with the plot because... because I said so!
>>739869679>I SAW GANON AND I CLAPPEDbravo nintendo, your fans have no standards
>>739869720correct
>>739868432>basically link wasn't "old enough" to be the hero of time, literally you aren't tall enough to ride bullshit Why is this bullshit? Link and Zelda are retarded kids in way over their heads and Link immediately gets his ass kicked the first time he meets Ganon
>>739869721Illiterate much?
>>739869813>retarded kids in way over their headsby the point link gets the master sword he's already been through three dungeons and massacred countless monstered, it's a contrivance for the sake of style over substance, it would have been better explained if it had been some form of sabotage on the part of ganon. Hey link we put you in stasis to save hyrule (which is already completely destroyed, lol, you're basically going to stop ganon from ruling over a pile of burning rubble)
>>739869939every fantasy story is contrived lol
>>739869962doens't make sense, it's there just for the visual effect. they came up with the visual effect first then tacked the plot contrivance on afterwards. you have no argument and are gay and also stupid.
>>739857793Guess you have that in common.
>>739869239Nah, it was fucking terrible. They had a chance to make zant a menacing villain and then they decided to not only bait-and-switch ganondorf but ALSO to turn zant into the biggest jobber in the world in order to justify ganon jumping in the ring. The worst part is that jobber zant is just a less interesting majora.
>>739868867>this is all your headcanonit's really not. the game practically beats you over the head with the child vs adult theme. nearly every Zelda game plays on duality like that. the light vs dark world, day and night (twilight), past vs future. child vs adult. that kind of thing is central to Zelda. I don't know how retarded you have to be for it to go over your head, even as a kid you pick up on it. frankly I really don't give a shit about "muh logic" as long as you can follow the plot of the game the way that it's presented, which you can, and it carried the themes well. nobody is saying Ocarina's story is a literary masterwork without flaws, but it does what it needs to do for the game and that's enough
>>739857793>Universally loved game = bad>now, give me you's and attention random internet people
>>739869939The master sword itself puts link into stasis, the canon of OOT is that ganondorf walks into the sacred realm and touches the triforce within moments of link picking up the master sword. The triforce itself resists ganon because his mind is imbalanced between power/wisdom/courage and the triforce of courage snaps itself to link as the closest person in the sacred realm who represents it, while wisdom goes to the leader of the seven sages at the temple of light in the center of the sacred realm. The master sword immediately puts link into suspension to protect the triforce of courage from ganon and then rauru drags him into the temple of light so that he can create a barrier protecting 2/3 of the triforce for the seven years before the master sword decided that link's body was ready.Assumedly, zelda and rauru both spend the 2500 days playing 'I spy'.
>>739870591>I really don't give a shit about "muh logic"yeah no shit>themesyeah that's all just tacked on after the fact by fanboys who were wooed by the pretty lights and catchy jingles that want to make it deeper than it is, it's not deep at all you're projecting a deepness onto it that simply isn't there. it's like dark souls lore, it is whatever you make up they just have to throw vagueries out there and people will make whatever they want out of it.
>>739868867>funny thing is people gave twilight princess loads of shit at the time for basically being ocarina of time with better characters, lore and an actual story.People gave it shit because it's a much more drawn out game for frankly really awkward payoff. The side characters exist more, but it's still Link's adventure, so it doesn't give them enough breathing room to really feel all that worth it. You're in TP for Midna's story, not the Resistance or Ilia or Colin or so forth.
>>739870818cool fan theory but it isn't in the game
>>739857841based milk squeezer from op's mom's titties
>>739870826you're fucking stupid man. the type of midwit who thinks they're smart for pointing out muh plot holes while extremely basic themes fly completely over their head. I didn't say it was deep, actually the themes are pretty obvious, which is why it's so surprising you apparently still didn't pick up on them.
>>739870836>frankly really awkward payoff.yeah the whole ganon reveal sucked ass, was enjoying the characters and the world up until that point but it's a style over substance series, the stories are always weak to non-existant in zelda games but lauded as excellent because they have emotionally evocative moments. it's like it was flirting at being something better then dropped the ball hard in the third act by trying to tie it into the dogshit split timeline theory. same thing happens in windwaker where tetra is starting to be a character then gets turned blonde and put in a pink dress because mario wears a red hat and overalls and he must always because he's an image not a character.
>>739870982>extremely basic themesthat theme you're hallucinating is not explored at all beyond the imagery of a single scene, there's no point arguing it
>>739871096there's no point arguing because you're a fucking midwit who wouldn't get the point even if I bashed your fucking skull in with it.
>>739871148so link gets the big sword and grows so this is the theme of "mantling the responsibility and becoming a big kid now", beyond that single image, what is there?
>>739871041>but lauded as excellent because they have emotionally evocative momentsDamn dude it's almost like the point of a story is to make you feel emotion, not to pass the rigorous examination of autists who want to feel clever. I wouldn't necessarily say Zelda stories are "excellent" but they're not trying to be whatever you think they are. They are just fairytales meant to inspire some emotion in you, and they pull it off.
>>739871331i didn't say they were trying to be anything, i said they're shit and they are shit. they're not good stories, most video game stories aren't. is not trying to be a good story some kind of excuse for having poor storytelling? why the apologetics? is it really that easy to impress you? all I need to do is show some sad faces and play the violin?
wish the damn 3DS mod npcs and a few enemies weren't still lacking fixes
The stuff I didn't like about OOT 20 years ago is the same as what I don't like now.There's a lot of just dead air to make due with a cartridges storage limits and 3d.
>hurr you're just imagining the themes
I wish they'd hurry up with that OoT static recomp, I don't like how convoluted the Ship N64 ports are
>>739872324I think the lead behind the recomps had his father die and he went in a depression spiral from how it sounds.
>>739857841FPBP
>>739857793>mad because oot will be remembered fondly forever while zoomer games of today can't even be remembered for a monthGod I'm so glad I wasn't born in the last 15 years
>>739872349Damn, my condolences. That would explain the lack of progress on much of anything after releasing the Banjo decomp back in January.
Is this the AI slop thread?
>>739872797nope, gay bathhouse
>>739857793you aged like milk
It's the only 3D Zelda I've played and beaten more than once because it's not bogged down with bullshit unlike every game after it.
>>739860002non gamers really have the weirdest shit to say lmao.
>>739870187>They had a chance to make zant a menacing villainYou make it sound like that would be a *GOOD THING but in reality, all the subtext and theme has been lost on you cause 'you tarded
>>739863612Bro you do NOT talk shit about DataSoft LeStick
