>2022>24GBHas the RTX 4090 aged like fine wine? What went so right here?
>>739862672>What went so right here?im not sure if anything went right here
>>739862672I never would have guessed a flagship gpu would be good still
>>739862672>Literally the same price used as a new 5090 at one pointNothing went right
>>739862672>What went so right here?framegen
Still using my 3060ti. Not upgrading to your AI framegen slop cards.
>>739863040Good thing too because your shit 8gb VRAM couldn't handle framegen
>>739863121wow you ai bros really are THAT retarded
>4070 ti super>9800x3d
>>739863220Enjoy your microstutters
where's ray reconstruction 4.5 fuck why are they doing dlss5 and ignore RR
>>739863407DLSS5 is making Starfield characters attractive. This is amazing tech.
I literally paid over $1000 for a scalped 3070 during the coof, it better last me a decade.
>>739863897>8gb VRAM>last me a decadeDo you want the bad news or do you want the really bad news?
>>739863897damn you're RETARDED retarded. people like you are why scalpers will always win.
>>739863951the super duper bad news
3060 12GB will last me two decades
>5070 ti at msrp
>>739864687the 3060ti wishes it was the 3060
>sapphire 7900 xt>20GB vram>fits in sff case>bought it after the price dropfeels good man
>>739865049The 3070 and the 10gb 3080 wishes they were the 3060
>>739865401>AMD
>camped outside a microcenter to get a 3070 on release day>boughted a 4090 right before the price hikesbest investment of my life
>>739865705>boughted3rd world detected, you buyed a 4090.
>>739862672>Has the RTX 4090 aged like fine wine?it aged like fine wine as soon as the 5090 released with a minor uplift and horrendous supply issues. anything afterward is just stacking accolades
>>739865769no he boughted the graphics shitted cummed, and pissed then he playeded with it
>>73986389712GB isn't enough for the big-tier GRAFICS games at 1080p. They're peddling 16GB for a reason below the xx90 and it's not just RAM scalping. Your 8GB is gonna look poorfag tier on anything recent.
>>739863991Not my proudest moment but my 1080 "died" and at the time even 1080 prices were retarded, so I went with the least retarded option. I recently found out that my 1080 is actually fine but the paste on it was dried and the fins were clogged with cat hair. I could have sold it back then for good money but now it's not worth much.
>>739865519SAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE BLOODY PLATFORM
>>739862672still have my 1080ti still not upgrading
Not upgrading from my Hercules graphics adapter. Suck it, nerds. Gobliiins looks great on it.
>nvidia share holders still seething at the 6800xt>and now the 9070xtlol what do you care? enterprise customers will pay $40k per unit for a 5090 with 90gb vram soldered to it
I just bought a used 3070 FE for $225 and this thing looks and runs as if it's brand new. I'm having a blast as it runs everything I play without ever breaking the 50C mark.
>>739866403Anime GPUs are so sweet, I wish I could afford one
>>739866403AMD still can't compete with the 4090, 4 years later.
>>739866605In todays market they are literally the same price as the gaymurr brand gaming models, just buy direct and not from a shit for brains scalper
>>7398630405070 Ti is the new 3060 Ti
>>739865936are you saying my old RX 6800XT is better than my current RTX 4090? what the actual fuck am I reading?
>>739866669Not for some of them
>bought a 5070ti just after christmas since i thought the price was gonna spike>my 2070 still chugging along>prices haven't spikedwhat do?
>>739866735i would cum on this accidentally and then it wouldn't work anymore. worthless!
>>739866703At 1080p with shit turned down, probably.
>>739866763>just checked and the price has actually gone down 150(aussie dollary doo's) + a 150 steam card and 007dang
>>739865936wtf is this chart
>>739862849Is that CKrikDrizzle?
>>739866701>Has a 5070TiIs that a good thing or nah? I don't really follow the spec bullshit I just press play on Steam.
>>739865769I see this and loose instead of lose constantly. Cringe every time
>>739867051NM, after reading through the thread with 16GB I should be ok for a bit.
>>739866701imbalanced performance without the vram to back it up? sounds right.
>>7398670515070ti is going to be solid all the way upto 8000 series tbqh
>>739862672The opposite actually. The 5090 has like 3x more performance in VR
>>739866605Just put stickers on your case? Or print some custom backplates?
>>739863897AHAHAHHAA
>>739867051It's the current best price/performance card, because 5060 is severely underspec.
>>739867246You don't need more than 16 GB.Enough for all the vidya and even AI.
>>739863991To be fair, if it lasted him 5-6 years then it was a good investment.
>>739868060>because 5060 is severely underspecDon't say that. I just got one. More specifically the ti one. I did do some research and it just didn't seem like the performance difference was worth the price difference. Not when I still 1080p.
>>73986816716GB right?
>>739868167760, 1060, 3060 etc used to be the "good deal" cards, but that's not true for 5060 anymore. It costs too much for what it does. You're just better off paying a bit extra for the 5070.
what's the best budget PC build for local AI and gaming?
>>739862672Any founder edition chads in here?
>>739868272Really depends on what AI you want to do.Meh LLM and image generation up to SDXL? Then a 8GB card is enough.You want the better LLMs, newer image models like Flux or ZImage, or generate video? You need 16 GB.CPU is only important if you want to offload text LLMs to your CPU and run the big models like that. In that case you also want to have 64 GB RAM, which is anything but budget nowadays. If you're fine with running the smaller models fully in VRAM, then CPU and RAM can be budget, but then you definitely want a 16 GB video card.
I'm currently building a PC and while I'm not up to buying the GPU just yet, I will be in a couple of months. Which card should I aim for. I don't care for red vs. green nonsense, I care for bang for back and longevity.For reference, I have a RX 5700 XT at the moment. My next PC is an AM5 CPU and mobo
>>739868195Yep.>>739868229>It costs too much for what it does. They all cost too much.But everything I looked at said the 5070ti is too much money for what I can get out of it.Oh well, at least it's way better than my 1650 with 4GB of RAM.
Here's a smartphone that has aged like fine wine. Despite being nearly ten years old, it's still modern with its sleek design, 1440p OLED display, and it has all the specs you need for everyday phone-things (plays back 1080p video as well as any modern phone)
>>739862672>Has the RTX 4090 aged like fine wine?Absolutely, it's an excellent card. It's going into its 4th year and it's still the 2nd fastest on the market. Even the 5090 is only what, 25-30% faster despite being a generation newer and drawing more power. It aged very well and it's still enthusiast-tier after all this time. It's almost surely still going to do pretty well even when the 6000s come out.
>>739868412>16gb 4060 ti which is the cheapest 16gb nvidia card costs almost the same as a PS5 alonefuck my life
RTX 4090 hasn't aged fine wine at allNo DisplayPort 2.1b UHBR20 80GbpsNo 10-bit 4:2:2 hardware decoding for video editingOnly RTX 50 series will age like fine wine while everyone will quickly dump the RTX 40 series for the RTX 60 series
>>739868510the 16gb will helpmuch better deal than the 5060 8gbi would have paid a bit more and went for the 5070ti tbqh
>>739868727Paying a bit more for 5070 is 2025. 5070 Ti price went up since January when nvidia announced that there will be no 5070 Ti Super, which is what everyone was waiting for. At that point people started buying up 5070 Ti.
>>739868514>plays back 1080p video as well as any modern phoneI was trying to figure out what you mean by this because even much older phones will not struggle with 1080p. Maybe you're talking about battery? But an S8 playing back 1080p will last flatten its battery about 25% faster than a modern phone will.
>>739868674So shit no one cares about?
>>739868794In terms of what you actually do with your phone, the most intensive thing you do is watch videos on it since calls, texting, and web-browsing do not tax it at all. For everyday things, you'll notice no difference in performance.MEANWHILE, the Galaxy S7 has aged like milk. Nobody is going to use an S7 nowadays. It's way too outdated.
>>739868938i was using an s7 recentlyit was fine
>>739869004>micro-usb
>>739868938>and web-browsing do not tax it at allWeb browsing is more taxing than 1080p video playback these days. Much more taxing. Web site developers give no fucks about making sure they aren't hammering your hardware too heavily. You think game devs are bad for optimization? Web devs aren't even aware the concept of optimization exists.
>>739869097yeah?my charger was micro-usb?
>>739862672If you mean that having the new connector melting and blowing up the card is a good thing, then sure, it is a good thing for NVIDIA because retards will buy another one while ASUS tells you to shove the RMA up your ass.t. 3090 and 6800xt owner
>>739869127gross. S8 has USB-C, another timeless innovation still being used today
nigga it cost like $5000 of course it aged fuck you
>>739869173usb-c really doesn't do anything extra
>>739869106>Web devs aren't even aware the concept of optimization exists.And it gets worse when they fill their shitty sites with ads, Youtube is basically unusable via a PC without uBlock, and I use even that over Brave ffs.
>>739862672>three thousands kangaroos at reasonable bestNever was worth it, never will be worth it.
>>739869278>australianstop being poor
RTX 60 series will use 3GB GDDR7, RTX 6090 will have 48GB of GDDR7, RTX 4090 24GB cucks will dump that shit quickly for RTX 6090
>>739869413>60 seriesanon....
>>739869413>still thinks a 60 series is going to happenlollmao
>>739869413>60 series
4000 series was terrible, almost as bad as the 5000 series, novidia is cooked now
>>739869413>48GBIt will have 33gb and you will say thank you
I have a 5090 I got the day they were released for the actual msrp, it's nearly 2k more expensive now on the msi's website.
>>739869575>>739869632>still thinks a 60 series is going to happenwhy not?
>>739869413There's no way they're doing more than 32GB with the shortage. There's literally not a single game that uses more than 24GB of VRAM.
>she thinks there won't be a 6000 series cardWorst case scenario is they make 0 consumer silicon but nvidia still needs to dump shitty bins of datacenter/AI/workstation cards on someone and that will be the 6000 series.
>>739869413yeah and it will cost $3000
>>739869815nvidia is literally dropping the consumer market as we speakevery single consumer graphics card costs them money now compared to selling to datacenters
>>739869832>still needs to dump shitty binsthose bins just go to the lower end data centers
>>739869832They'll just sell the shitty bins to china like the 5090 D V2
>>739862672used 3080 yeah or nah? I heard it's on par with 5070 minus the framegen ofc
>>739869906No it uses too much power
>>739869906unless you can get it for a huge discount, then nojust get a 50 seriesanons shit on framegen but once you actually use it then you know its only poorfags crying about it.
>>739869413A 4090 will be like half a decade old by that point, so yeah? What do you expect, are you retarded? If a card offers 5 years of top-tier performance it's excellent, but it's going to be time to upgrade after so long.
>>739869980If you've got decent base performance (like 60FPS+) then frame gen is alright, it makes it feel smoother. You still need a fast card to get 60+ real FPS though.
I'm still using a 1080
>>739870047not really an issue with how good dlss is now
>>739869906only the 3090 is worth it for its large VRAM if you can get it cheap
>>739869851Also, Microsoft is switching Windows 12 to subscription only and you'll have no option but cloud gaming. All food will be bugs as well.
>>739862672People like you are why these struggling GPU companies will need to put in some hard lock for games that will prevent old cards from running the latest releases
>>739870118Upscaling still looks like shit if you have eyes. I bet you use frame generation.
>>739868514Based because it doesn't have a permanent black spot on your screen.I will never understand why camera notches became the industry standard.t. uses an old fossil as well
>>739870342hell yeah I paid for that dedicated shitstain on my card
>>739869980I have a 5090 and I hate having to rely on it. MFG especially sucks ass though. I tried the new dynamic framegen and it was an instant off for me.
>>739870342when did you last use dlss?it hasn't looked like shit since dlss 2
Sitting happy with my 4080
6700 XT user here. Should I upgrade?
>>739870398sorry you have shit taste anon or fucked something upits literally unnoticeable and i have tested it with friends.
Once novidia totally flops the ai scam will flop with it, shlomo is already panicking and looking for the tax payer to bail him out again
>>739870118Not sure what you mean. DLSS frame gen is complete ass at low FPS, it's not really usable. It's worth turning on at 60+ real FPS like I said, though even then it will have noticeable artifacts here and there, especially around UI elements.DLSS scaling is quite good but even on a 4k monitor where the input resolutions are still quite high you will notice a loss of sharpness and detail, plus on certain surfaces / textures you may get weird artifacts like moire patterns that you wouldn't get when rendering at high res for real. It's often worth the compromise for the performance though, it's not like graphics cards which can run the demanding shit at real 4k exist.
>>739870442Man the guy saying he can't see the fake frames telling me I have shit taste. That's a new one. I have friends that literally can't see the difference between 60 and 120fps so I'm not sure where you're getting at with that one either.
>>739870408He "used" it on the youtube video he watched on his Android phone in Brazil.
>>739870514dlss lets you get to 60 fps easily then you can mfg from that
>>739870364That's dead real estate at the top. The notches are so small they're completely in the notification area now.
>>739870551thisso many people shitting on DLSS and frame gen and its clear they have never used it>i have a 5090 and a 4k screen and it looks terrible!!no you don't loli have a 4k screen and a 5070ti and it looks fucking amazing.
>>739870676I used to refuse to use it, but i buckled because I didn't want to play shit at double digit framerates. Dead Space Remake's default DLSS version (I think 2) is awful and blurry, but if you swap it out for 4 or 4.5, it's nice.
>>739862672>What went so right hereYou mean wrong. Because 5xxx series is so shit , it cant beat previous generation and nvidia have delayed 6xxx series because they are Aislop company now
>>739870743nigga that motion blur on top of DLSSno shit it's gonna be blurry. you're stacking fuzz on fuzz
>>739870743you should always swap out the dlss using the app since its actually updated where games never do
>>739870743>>739870783>games don't update DLSSthis is a huge issue, warframe is still using dlss 2 last time i lookedplenty of other games never update it and so anons try it and go >its shityou must use the app and force the latest model
>>739870781I always turn motion blur off (not sure if DSR even supported it, but it was off if it did). That's JUST DLSS doing that.
>>739870676It looks bad. You're just blind.
>>739870676I have never used dlss for anything, I do have a 4k screen.
>>739870868see >>739870820did you even use the app?>>739870879>I have never used dlsswell you shouldits always worth turning on even if your frames are good
>>739870910Yes but I use DLSS Swapper though because I don't want Nvidia's adware telemetry horseshit app.
>>739870910I play flight sims and space sims, I get 300 frames native 4k at the highest settings barring volumetric cloud effects. Literally why would I use the hardware slop filter?
>>739870967reduces strain on your card, heat and power
>>739862672The 3090 released in 2020 and also had 24GB of VRAM.It's been 6 years and they're still selling 8GB cards.
>>739870967>she didn't play GOTY with path tracing
>>739869815Word of advice, don't listen to the retards that make big predictions or make sweeping industry statements. You need to understand those words are coming from unemployed idiots.
>>739870992>doing more compute reduces strain and power usage Holy sweet shit
>>739871035>anon doesn't understand what upscaling isyes, rendering at 4k is more compute than rendering at 1080p or 1440por 22phttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKCyk3CeUFY
>>739863897Damn bro I got one for $800 canabucks you got FUCKED
How does this higher tier card debacle even affect people that don't give a shit about FOMO AAA slop?
>>739871251sour grapes basically
>>739871251Skyrim with mods
>>739871251When have the losers here gave up a chance to complain?
no it aged like a fine ice cube inside the wine, melted
>>739871270>If you don't like literal shit, it's most likely because you're poor.Makes sense!>>739871306>Skyrim with modsAverage modded skyrim fag is most likely also an AI slopper so them buying one of these expensive cards is justified.
Nvidia has more money than 98.87% of the countries in the world and is completely abandoning discreet gaming market to make more trillions in the AI/data center market. Leather jacket man wants you to rent a GPU via cloud and best case scenario you will have one discreet GPU you can own physically for $3000++. The only good thing about it is the fact that if you purchased 40xx / 50xx series before those GPUs got discontinued or price hiked by 300% you're basically set for life or at least until the AI bubble burst which could still be years away.
>>739871574My 4090 will be worth $100,000 in a few years.
>>739871574>is completely abandoning discreet gaming marketSource?
>>739871574>Leather jacket man wants you to rent a GPU via cloudthey don't even want that
>>739863991To be fair his old PC might shat itself back then and he had to get a new one asap
>>739870440No.t. 6700 XT user
>>739871638They've publicly announced they're not developing any gaming hardware at the moment and they are cutting production for gaming hardware despite the fact the demand is high.Maybe "completely abandoning" is an exaggeration but they have made it quite clear they have no interest in servicing the market demand for the moment.And why would they? They hold 95% market share. Unless a government somewhere decides this is illegal profiteering it's just an enormously big win for them to keep gaming hardware limited and overpriced and the people who are buying expensive hardware en masse well supplied.
>>7398704409070xt here is around $750 and is very tempting for me
>>739862672>be me>by 4090>hahahaha he boughted a gpu for 1600>few years pass>4090 is goatedI hate the internet
>>739872319No one wanted to believe things would get worse but it did
>>739871908Source?
>>739872319>>hahahaha he boughted a gpu for 1600This still stands.Anyone who buys the top of the line for computer hardware is either just so stupid rich they don't care about wasting their money or is just plain retarded.Just buy reasonably priced hardware and learn to not need to play every single game on ultra extreme settings. Especially these days where the difference in graphics between medium and ultra extreme is getting to be barely noticeable.
>/v/ suddenly has an issue with AI and live services when all they play is AI generated gacha slop??? You don’t want to come home in the car you pay monthly for, with features you can also pay monthly to unlock, after ordering lunch through the delivery app you pay monthly for to avoid slightly worse fees, then turn on the TV you pay monthly for, open the streaming app you pay monthly for, get bored watching literal propaganda, switch to the music app you pay monthly for on the computer you pay monthly for, using the internet you pay monthly for, playing games you’re renting monthly via a subscription, on a rented cloud GPU, before finally cooking dinner from the meal plan you also pay weekly or monthly for?Sounds like an absolute dream.
>>739865930>cat hairfigures that your a toxotranny too
>>739872871I agree. Cats aren't 4chan culture. When this site was founded in 2016 to talk about the election, this was a baby monkey torture website.
>>739863121>shits down your neckhttps://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-shows-neural-texture-compression-cutting-vram-from-6-5gb-to-970mb
should I just build a PC right now before the price gets even worse?
>>739872803>don't spend money on your hobby>anon thinks 1600 is alotanonface the factsyou are poor
>>739872803do you live in a third world country
>>739872951
>>739872803You're an unemployed manchild who doesn't understand that 1600 dollars is pretty cheap as far as adult hobbies go. Especially since it bought the literally best in the hobby. You should see what the average /k/ faggot spends
>>739872803You can literally get 10 years of buying every budget gpu that plays current games just fine for less(300x5=1500) taking advantage of every generations upgrades the whole timeFags that buy high tier are retarded
So it the 5090 worth the doubled price or am I same getting a 5080ti?Perhaps even a 9070XT if I decide I don't wanna do some cheeky AI sloppa
>>739873156>bro why are you complaining that X costs more money? Y costs lots of moneyYou disingenuous faggot kike.
>>739873168How about you>buy highest tier GPU>sell it before the new GPU comes out>recoup 80% of your money>only have to spend a couple hundred dollars every 4 years to upgradeI swear you retards are all teenagers
>>739873054>>739873068>>739873156>>739873168You sound like women claiming a $1,500 handbag is an "investment".It's not a reasonable amount of money to pay. End of discussion.
>>739873156a 5060ti will play any game just fine. There's no reason to buy some meme card to turn on extra ray tracing or whatever. Besides, those high end cards pull tons of power and can start fires, not good if you're a home owner. Bad in the summer too.
>>739872951Neural rendering is a blackwell exclusive retardSwing and a miss
>>739873293>You sound like women claiming a $1,500 handbag is an "investment".My 4090 literally was an investment, I can sell it for nearly 3x what I paid faggot XD
>>739873293ngl handbags do sound like a good investmentyou sound like a poorfag who has no idea how money works
>>739873293No, it's more like buying a top of the line firearm or upgrades for your track car. Except it's much cheaper than either of those.>>739873298Thanks to renewable energy, electricity in my area is dirt cheap :). And what sort of caves are you people living in that you can't dissipate like 400w of heat lmao
>>739873289How about you>Buy Budget tier>Sell it before new GPU comes out>Recoup 100% or more of your money>Literally spend nothing or make money every 2 years to upgradeMoron
>>739873293>his only hobby is gaming>refuses to spend money on itactually retarded1600 is literally nothing for a first worlder btw30 bucks a month for a single yearor 7.5 a month for 4 yearsliterally, literally nothing
>>739873306>I can sell it for nearly 3x what I paid faggot XDThis is only true because we're in a very unusual situation. You made a poor decision that just happened to pay off for you. That doesn't mean every poor decision you make will pay off for you.
/v/ hates socialism then turn into socialists when GPUs are involved lol. Work harder, get nicer things. You just have to cope that I get a better gaming experience with a 4090 and an LG TV than your poorfag ass
>>739871251The problem is I give a shit about the rare AAA game every year or two.
>>739873387I know people who did that with the 4090. Literally got a free 5090 upgrade.
>>739873298>5060tigood luck with 4kyou DO have a 4k monitor right anon?let me guess>4k isn't even that good you can actually play at 720p>>739873387but then you have to play with a budget gpu instead of a high end gpu and enjoy your games more
>>739873395>You made a poor decisionWhat makes it a poor decision? I wanted the best gaming experience my hobby could offer, I got it for a reasonable price.
>>739873419Was it your uncle who works at Nintendo?
>>739873390>1600 is literally nothing for a first worlder btwI love this assumption I'm a poorfag third worlder.I'm a first worlder. I have more than enough money sitting in my account right now to go out and just buy the absolute best of the best of the best today. But I would never do that because it's just not a wise way to spend my money.
>>739873450>But I would never do that because it's just not a wise way to spend my money.Hey anon what sort of car do you drive?
>>739873487A Hyundai
>>7398734464090s were selling around $2400 when the 5090 released.
>>739873434>I got it for a reasonable priceThat's why it was a poor decision. You think it was a reasonable price when it was not.You're the reason we're all paying $80 for video games now. If retards will pay it they'll sell it for that. And all you've got to defend blowing your money is HURR DURR YOU'RE A POORFAG
>>739873434But I can watch YouTube videos of games on my Huawei smartphone in my sweltering favela shack and not pay that much.
4080 bros howie feeling????
>>739873450this poor anon suffered child abusesorry anon
>>739873508Mazda, actually.
Totally convinced there's a bot that just scans for anything tech related and then calls people poor.Happens on every fucking board on literally anything parts related.
>>739873429>enjoy your games moreI enjoy tinkering with the settings for ultimate performance and graphical fidelity like a chad rather than just brute forcing ultra settings like a fag and having stutters and lag because you have too many frames and the 1%lows are kicking you in the assPlus 4k is for homos
>>739873563>>739873508Why not a used Corolla from the 90s? It's cheaper and would last longer. That sounds like a poor use of money anon...
Can the 3070 handle 1440p? Only game I play currently is FFXIV.
>>739873583The levels of cope are extreme. You're responding to at LEAST two people, probably 3-4. You're just poor and trying to pretend that you have support from the majority to be destitute.
>>739873583maybe stop posting in a poor way?if your hobby is gamingthen fucking pony up a bit of cash moron>>739873592>like a chadpoorfag copereal chad just buys a prebuilt with a 5090 and calls it a day
>>739873213There's no 5080 Ti. 70 Ti was the value for money GPU giving your same amount of vram and 90% of 5080's performance for 60% of its price - which is why it got effectively discontinued because Nvidia no longer provides boards with memory instead only selling SKUs now - forcing 3rd party manufacturers to build own boards. Those vram modules can be sold for 3x the price on a 5090 meaning most manufacturers like Asus stopped producing 5070 Ti. If you can still find a 5070 Ti anywhere near its MSRP go for it if you're budget oriented. If you have fuck you amount of money just buy a 5090.>>739873156>>739873068>>739873054>>739872803For me it's not even the actual price which I can afford. I was poor at one point in life and I understand the value of money. If 5090 was released with a $3000 price tag I could probably suck it up. The deal breaker is the fact that a $1600 MSRP GPU is being sold for $3000 only because kikes are so greedy they no longer care about the social contract with the consumer. You don't hate Nvidia enough.
>>739873621Runs into memory issues on newer games. 8gb was Nvidia handicapping the card
>>739873628>prebuiltYou were close.
>>739873594>Why not a used Corolla from the 90s?More economical to buy a cheap new car with a warranty than an old reliable car that is old enough to now require regular maintenance I'll have to pay for out of pocket.
>>739873650nah my friend is a literal chad and he bought a prebuiltdo you think a chad wastes time building his own pc?
>>739873660>More economical to buy a cheap new carLmao no retard, a new car is literally the worst value for money.
>>739873646Yeah I meant 5070ti but my fat fucking retard hamclubs of fingers pressed the wrong number and my starved of oxygen at birth fucked up raisin brain didn't catch it until it was too late.Gomenasorry anon-kunt
>>739873701Only if you're retarded enough to buy an expensive wannabe luxury car.
>>739873646>I was poor at one point in life and I understand the value of moneythen you'd understand money has whatever value people think it doesand right now GPUs are highly valued because you can use them for AIyou could have also seen this coming and realized buying the 5090 at MSRP was a good idea because it will hold or increase in value, where you can sell it after you're done using it for the same amount or more.
>bro just man up and pay 2000 dollars for a single GPUno thanks, I'll just buy a 500$ GPU that runs my games just fine and spend the rest of the money on stocks
>>739873520Yeah no they werent, in fact 4090 fags were dumping them for lower than 1000 dollars in the December beforeYou are dumb
>>739873810Extremely based unless you're stocks fail, than you're a cuck kys.
>>739873780What if I don't give a shit about AI and just want vidya?The biggest issue with the 5090 is it's a do everything card when I only want it to do one thing.
1600 bucks in 2022 and a minimum 6 year lifespan means that I'm paying like 220 bucks a year for an incredible gaming experience. What hobbies cost less than that for the best? Even fucking hiking costs that much when you factor in park passes and gear lmaoThe truth is that up until the AI craze, PC gaming was quite cheap for an adult hobby.
>>739873847It's also the "do gaming best" card. It's not like you're sacrificing performance for other features.
>PC doesn't boot right one day>mobo light says it's a GPU thing>think my 1060 6GB has finally bit the dust after being pushed really hard almost every day for 8 years straight>order some 3060 8GB because it was under 400 bucks>decide to try fiddling with my 1060 while waiting>take it out and move it up one PCIe slot>it just works>have to go and cancel my orderi'm glad i saved like 380 dollars but also i think i might be stuck with this thing until the end of time, it just takes whatever i throw at it and only complains a lot while doing so
>>739873847Like I said, you sell it later. What else are you going to do with that money? Let it sit in a bank? Put it into an investment portfolio? I don't know know any big name portfolio that can out-do a 100% increase within 1 year.
>>739873892It doesn't justify the huge hike in cost for stuff I don't want though.The 5080 and 9070XT do just as well in raster and RT isn't a universal thing, where the 5090 is indeed the best of the best of the best with a noticable gap.
>>739873918Whats the most demanding game you've tried with that little 1060 cutie
>>739873837S&P 500 has never let me down tho
>>739873828the 5090 came out in february
>>739873873GRAPHICS! don't make for incredible gaming experiences same as CGI! doesn't make for incredible movie experiences.We're at the point where these very slight improvements you get from spending way more on the hardware is just not worth the cost.
>>739873945>The 5080 and 9070XT do just as well in rasterNo, they don't. I'll pit my 4090 against either of those cards and rape them.
>>739873918>move it up one PCIe slotlol you had it for 8 years in the wrong pci slot the whole time?Now there are retards and then there are RETARDS and brother you take the cake
>>739866825>it literally says max settings
I bought it for gaming but finding out that I can host decently fast local AI was pretty awesome
>>739873980Oh I thought you meant just random to the fucking moon start up stock gambles. VOO is solid pick for long term, let those vanguard jews give you some pennies.
Boughted 4090? You wonneded.Boughtered 50 series? You losted and got rapeded.Simple as.
>>739873989>GRAPHICS! don't make for incredible gaming experiences same as CGI! doesn't make for incredible movie experiences.Go watch Lawrence of Arabia on VHS instead of 4k HDR. Surely the same.
Nvidia sold 16 billion dollars of GeForce products last year, if you think Nvidia is giving up the gaeman market you're retardsRTX 60 3nm is coming and RTX 40 retards are gonna be obsoleted next year
>>739873810Do you not understand that while you want to buy stonks with your hard earned cash there are lots of people with stonks that have already paid off greatly and $2,000 is peewee money and literally doesn't matter one bit? Your perspective is that of a poor person hoping to make some money some day, but that day is already here for many of the people buying high-end gear.
>>739874164look up what percentage of there revenue geforce is nowgeforce is costing them money to keep
>>739873982>I know people who did that with the 4090. Literally got a free 5090 upgrade.How does that prove your argument when the 5090 was selling for 4300 dollars at that point?Quit trying to move the goal posts to fit your shit moronic narrative, just concede that at NO POINT were you selling a 4090 and buying a 5090 and getting a "free" upgrade
>>739862672>5070 Ti + 9800X3D>playing PS2 gamesModern games blow, this hardware will last forever at this rate too since we're hitting the upper limit on rasterization for the time being
>>739874164>RubinI hope it comes with a free sandwich.
>>739874026maybe the slot got damaged somehow?
>>739873963probably Arma Reforger, but i haven't played it in a while so i don't remember how it ran beyond it being tolerable enough for me to not complain>>739874026i was never told what slot to put it in and it worked just fine in that slot for eight years, so i dunno
>>739874086>Go watch Lawrence of Arabia on VHS instead of 4k HDR.I think it was quite clear the point I was making is you won't see anywhere near that level of difference from spending way more on your graphics card these days.But if you think Lawrence of Arabia would be a much better film if it was converted to 240fps I don't think there's much point in continuing this argument.
>>739873646>salty he didn't buy the dip
>>739874270>anywhere near that level of difference from spending way more on your graphics card these days.Because you're a poorfag who hasn't played at 4k/120fps. It's a pretty big jump over 1080/60 that you're obviously comfortable with.
>>739874078awwww, made the mistake of making mommy buy you a 4090 right before 50 series came out and now no 6x framgen or neural rendering for youI sowwy
>>739874164they might be coming, but the amount of VRAM will be so gimped any sort of performance upgrades will be worthless
>>739874260no the lower slot got damaged and he moved it up and it workedMaybe your head got damaged somehow
i genuinely despise poorfagsstop coping
I don't really have other hobbies than gaming and live relatively frugally. I spend the vast majority of my free time gaming, having the best is a pretty good investment for my quality of life. Same reason I spent like 1200 dollars on a chair. You can still live reasonably while spending money on the biggest "touch points" of your life. and never buy cheap toilet paper.
Hate gramegen. Hate upscaling.love me native res.simple as.
>>7398743794k with DLSS Quality (1440p) is free real estate anon
>>739874164God damn im an Nvidia fanboy and even I dont believe Nvidia promotional bullshit dudeGrow the fuck up
>>739874207You mean the scalped prices? Obviously they bought MSRP, which was possible if you used bot alerts or got chosen in raffles.
I'm still using a 970m You don't need more than that, there's nothing worth playing past what this card can handle.
>>739874309No, I've experienced it. It's not worth it. It just doesn't really make the games that much more fun to play.
>>739870743YIKES lmao. This is exactly why I play on a CRT.
>>739874458Keep moving those goalposts
>>739874484king shit
>>739874453There's nothing wrong with that graphic. 4x MFG is literally unnoticeable.
>>739874520Keep arguing with the voices in your head. I'm just stating facts.
>>739874554The only fact here is my dick is bigger than yoursBut I digress
>>739874656damn you're both poor AND tell terrible jokesthat's rough buddy
>>739874728Now your projecting?Bro
>>739873357what's exotic about leather
>>739874961snakeskin, crocodile skin, etc.
>>739874961Everything is synthetic these days so something being made using 100% natural products is inherently exotic.
>>739875032foreskin
>>739875108
>>739875108it was so obvious... the foreskin purses...
You mean there's some left from all the 12v buttplug house fires? Yeah pull the other one m8
I upgraded from a 4090 to a 5090 recently and honestly yeah the 4090 is simply unmatched longevity wise and the second best Nvidia GPU after the 1080ti
>>739875241>tumblr image>poor>not American (so poor)
>>739868412How can I get a local AI running on my CPU? Do I need an API or are there pirate LLM/IMG GEN?
>>739868492I recommend the PICREL card honestly.
>>739868514The curved screen Galaxies SUUUCKED.
>>739875338Image generation is usually done with something like ComfyUI or Stable Diffusion. https://civitai.com/ has a million models.If you want a LLM, you can use ollama, and they have models on https://huggingface.co/ (look for "abliterated" stuff if you want restrictions removed).You can actually hack AUTOMATIC1111 and Ollama to work together so you can generate images via LLM, but it's probably not as clean as readymade (and restricted) shit like Gemini.
>>739868573>when the 6000s come outAn optimist!J/K, but only a little. When will at all go cloud computing? I guess 10,000 series is the perfect point to start. When the 9900TI releases I'll be there. Might as well buy 2 then.
>>739869229I can barely put my dick in a vagina right, do you know how many times I fucked around and bent shit while drunk trying to get a Micro USB into my phone? USB C was mana from heaven. Stop holding on to dumb shit just because you happen to use.Also, I'm pretty sure USB C has tons of advantages such as transfer speed, video, etc I just don't know all of that but I'm sure I read it somewhere.
>>739875497>When will at all go cloud computing?Never honestlyThe worldwide internet grid isnt up to it yetMaybe when they have fibered the entire world or wireless is worth a shit maybe
>rx9070xt>sapphire pulse:/
>>739875649Isn't Sapphire the best variant of amd gpus?
>>739872976Undoubtedly. Like, now.
>>739875693not the pulse one because it's only 2 connector power and non-oc
>>739872976And buy another one in 2 more years and keep the one you just bought as a backup.
>>739866978An outlier. It's what happens when you run something not optimised to modern corporate paid driver standards and shit boils down to raw basics: VRAM and bus-width. The two things they are seriously gimping in modern video cards to keep the bubble going. Even AMD joined in on that recently, so there are no good sides here, just basic electronics fundamentals.Which btw is also what happens when you start modding shit heavily. You think your 5080 is gangster until you start running Skyrim coomer mods. Welcome to Jensen's world.
>>739873528If I don't buy it, someone else is gonna buy it.
>>739873450You aren't one of those SAVE EVERYTHING fags are you? I know people who just save, and don't even invest even into bonds because it's not (((safe))).But if you are a SAVE fag, sometimes it's ok to spend money on stuff. For you, for your family, for your friends. Buy yourself a nice car, nothing crazy but doesn't need to be a 2010 Toyota. Buy your kids a PS5! They have outgrown the Leapfrog by now. Buy dinner for the table for once, maybe even tip the waiter.
>>739873552https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-UxscOCZQY
>>739873627KEK, poor people really think they are the main character don't they?
>>739873989Saar?
>>739874240Don't do that to me nigga, I'm so hungry
>>739876190>Buy your kids a PS5!It's literally a console for nonces.
>>739863603Skyrim 2 will be 16x the AI
>>739874515Confirmed poor. I'm not even dude you are arguing with, but 4K on an OLED at 120+ (mine is 240) is light years beyond your LCD 1080P slop. I literally can't go back. I'd rather play a non backlit first gen Gameboy over 1080P/60 any game.
>>739875108Oy vey! My Grandpa was used as a cushion for a love seat after the Shoah!
>>739875484Thanks Bro.
>>739876513What am I looking at here?
You don't need to play video games at all
>>739876727Get a job and stop coping.
>>739876723A SIE executive who was caught trying to solicit sex from a young boy.
>>739871020> I bought a 5090 to look at chubby child feet!The day of judgement cannot come soon enough.
>>739876560cope and seethe, incel
>>739876815I always thought this ad was a bit off-putting
>>739876190No, but am I someone who just likes to make reasonable sensible purchases and doesn't spend money just because I have it.I'm also very big on things like "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".>I know people who just save, and don't even invest even into bonds because it's not (((safe))).This is stupid. It's okay to have some money held in the bank but government taxes you on interest even for amounts that did nothing but maintain the value of your savings in face of inflation. That is so much fucking bullshit that the government does that. They basically are penalizing you for trying to deal with inflation they cause.
>>739876902ok snotty chuddie arab
>>739877114Yes, I will cope with my 4K/120+FPS and seethe at how I even put up with grey blacks and 720P and sub 30 FPS like you are playing on today. I wish I could go back to being an Incel some days... oh well I guess I will also have sex with my wife, in our big bed.
>>739874354?
>>739877286But you're the guy with the racing car bed in that image...
>>739874453Take your own advice, faggot retard and grow the fuck up
Some PS2 games at 480i still look impressive to me. People saying 1080p 60 FPS is bad are fucking clueless. Anybody who grew up with 6th/7th gen consoles know we already made it. Obviously 4K, OLED and 144hz+ is all a very nice bonus but I'm just happy to not have to look at some small 20 inch screen connected to AV cables
>>739863897Bruh I paid 700€ for a brand new 4070ti super. $1000 for a 3070 yeah you got scalped alright.
>>739868727at 750, you're right. at 1200, I disagree.t. 5070ti haver
>>739866784It’s cum cooled
>>739873980I need to just start putting money into general stuff. I can't gamble for shit.
>>739880562hot
>>739873357>Channel boy bagI see mostly muslims wearing those.As if I needed more proof they're all turbo Faggots.
>>739874164Your mom was obsolete when she had you.
>>739865925Fuck you, okay?!
>>739881451Your mother was the village whore and she should have aborted you when she had the chance
>>739868674>No DisplayPort 2.1b UHBR20 80GbpsShrug
>bought 5070 ti>bought 285kWhatever
>>739882801>Intel CPUDo corelettes really?
>>739882859Is Intel THAT bad for gaming? On paper they look good, but I'm still inclined towards an X3D for my next build.
9800X3D50801440p OLEDBros, will I be fine? Seems like I missed the window to get a 5090 somewhat reasonably.
>>739882893x3d is king.
GPU/RAM/SSD prices aren't going to go down are they?
>>7398829274690k9701080pYeah you're fine. Gods I wish people weren't so retarded
>>739870868>still using default color settings
>>739882859I bought blue for the last 20 years.Why would I think red would be better?
>>739862672Imagine being a waitfag. They could have just spent the lump sum half a decade ago and they'd be better off and had years of enjoyment.
>>739882893depends on the gameX3D doubled my fps in tarkovmassively reduced stutters in most games too
>>739883498Damn, that's pretty significant. I'm on a 5600x at the moment. Looking at a 9800x3d or equivalent. I've heard some of the motherboards are shit though. Looking at Sapphire for that. Apparently Asrock burns the chips out.
>>739883902biggest problem about going up to am5 is that ddr5 is expensive as fuck nowi just got a 5700x3d instead
>>739884014It is yeah.I don't think my motherboard would cope with an x3d chip. Don't judge me, it was a prebuilt (with all standard parts) because it was cheaper to buy a prebuilt than part and build it myself. Literally the exact same parts as the prebuilt came to £200 more. The motherboard is an Asus Prime B550M-K.Luckily I move frequently between two places, so this PC will live at one place, and the new PC at the other. Nothing will be wasted.
>>739882893Yes. They really messed up splitting the CPU die between P and E cores like a mobile CPU With bios updates it mostly fixes them but still the AMD CPUs this gen are just better across the board
>>739884224>Asus Prime B550M-K.just looked and it will if you update the bios
>>739884360>just looked and it will if you update the biosIt's the VRMs I'm worried about rather than if it'll actually accept the CPU. It's not designed for top end chips.>>739884337Fair. I remember reading about the E/P core problem, with many applications using the efficiency cores erroneously.
>>739883214im waiting for a specific game to upgrade
>>7398842245800x3d with a shiitty biostar 450mh here.yea definitely make sure your board is good. when i upgraded my prebuilt CPU to a 5800x3d, the board immediately started to throttle because it was so hot. ended up having to add more fans, but ultimately do NOT skimp out on upgrading the motherboard.
>>739863331My dick made your mom microstutter last night lmao
>>739862672Still maxing out most games at 4K/120. I will never get over how good games look maxed out on an OLED.Literally the best money I've ever spent.
>>739884621>4090>32 gb ram
>>739884537>biostar 450mh here.Biostar still exist? Holy fuck I thought they died a decade ago.The prebuilt was adequately balanced. I paid £900 for a 5600X, 16GB of RAM, a 1TB Samsung NVME, and an Asus 3060Ti, back in 2022. Also had a H212 (or similar) CPU cooler. I bought it at a time when I was busy at work, so it was more of a casual system to play the odd game when I had time.I now have a lot more time to play video games, so I want to get something a bit better. I've since upgraded the prebuilt a bit. I replaced the case with a Lian Li 207. I upgraded it to 32GB of RAM. I've also added a 4TB NVME in the 2nd slot (which will go to the new PC), and a 6TB spinning rust HDD for movies and shit.I'm now medically retired (heart conditions) so I want to throw a bit more into getting a good gaming experience. I'll likely go with a 9800x3d and either a 9070Xt or 5070Ti depending on how keen I am to change over to Linux.
>>739884668what are you poor?32gb is required for most decent games now
>>739883009Of course notThey have an easy, golden opportunity to phase out personal computers and devices in favor of the cloudWhat part of 'You will own nothing' did you not understand?
>>739884796What are some decent games?
>>739885049tarkovskyrim with modsffxiv with modsuhhh vrchat
>>7398650375070ti at 700 eurocucks
>>739862672It was the last release before Jensen went full retard on AI and fucking over the consumer market.
>>739872319One of my friends managed to snag a new 4090 below msrp. I'm pissed I didn't get one myself even if it was above msrp and with gay sales tax
>>739862672>no 6x multiframe genLOL loses to a 5070. Planned obsolescence tech.
>>739886558>6xanon doesn't even 12x frame gen! lmaoooo
>>739886716Anon, the future is now.https://youtu.be/DKm2_D6RiXE
>>739884732VAXXED.COMIt is criminal what they did to you, Anon.
>>739884901Bing?
>>739885268>tarkov>skyrim with mods>ffxiv with mods>uhhh vrchatThe I masturbate in my furry costume 5x a day starter pack
>>739887092I never got vaxxed. I was a fairly young teacher, I worked in the school with the kids with key worker parents and the reprobates with shitty home lives all through the lockdowns. They offered me the first shot like a month after the first booster came out, so I shrugged my shoulders, said fuck it whatever I've not gotten it yet despite bearing all the risk, and just continued on with my life.I got some shitty virus from a kid about a year and a half ago. Felt like a cold, not like covid. Took the day off work because I felt shit, walked to the shop (500m up the road) for a sandwich, got back totally out of breath, heart rate >170. Went to doctors, they shrugged and went I dunno. Eventually started coughing up blood, doctors went oh fuck here's all the antibiotics and steroids, let's cross our fingers and hope.I got a little better, but my school were absolutely assholes because I'd had 6 weeks off, and I ended up just staying off sick because I wouldn't do all of the extra shit they tried piling on. Medically retired after that year.It sucks that walking anywhere is hard, but at least I get to NEET and watch movies, anime, play games etc.
>>739887471did you ever get any scans done?
>>739887471>>739887562Yeah, any idea WTF is going on? You didn't just shrug it off to NEET did you? Check out Barbara O'Neil on YT/X/Telegram or whatever, her ability to explain biology and provide ACTUAL homeopathic advice has been a godsend to many.
Got a 9070XT recently. I doubt I'll ever enable raytracing on a game tho, feels unnecessary in 99% of cases.
>>739887562They did a chest scan (can't remember what type, think x-ray?) looking for cancer, they did an echo cardiogram and an MRI on my heart. They found I had scarring on my heart, likely from the virus. I also developed POTS following the virus. No idea what the fuck I had. Think it was prednisone and doxycycline they gave me when I started coughing up blood.I'm in my early 30s and had led a fairly clean life (never a crack head etc) so... but to be honest, teaching was becoming fucking miserable. I'd been assaulted by a kid a few weeks before I got sick. I was looking for an out from it because it was a job that consumed your entire life in a thankless tsunami of bullshit. Management were assholes, half the kids were assholes, half the parents were assholes, and you had a constant feeling you were letting nice kids down by not being able to stave off the assholes from ruining their education.When I bought my current PC, I wanted to travel more etc. and had a lot less time for gaming just through being a working professional. When I got sick, the UK govt started on their tirade against filthy non-working disableds. Getting sick, seeing all of that hate, after trying to lead a life where I gave back, and gave up my best years to help society, has left me utterly uninterested in doing fuck all to help people or contribute. I want to sit in my quiet corner of the earth playing video games and watching shit til I croak it :)
>>739865519My brother has an XFX 7900XT and that thing kicks all kinds of ass.
>>739866403noone buys amd except jeets
>>739891219>noone buys amd except jeetsNot a jeet. Thinking of going AMD for Linux compatibility.
>>739887739>homeopathic anon stop falling for snake oil
>>739891768K, trust the SCIENCE CHUD. Give your baby a Hepatitis Vax. Safe & Effective.
>>739887869OK, you earned it. Just, please, take down a refugee hotel or something when you go for real.
>>739892270Thanks fren, I will aim to play all the vidya and consoom.
>>739892204>anon claims he is sane
>>739892615Never claimed that at all.
