Comes out in one week.The combat looks unironically good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlGRIh9wef8
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>>739873519is that the game where incels cried about npcs not being naked?
>>739873580david jaffe energy
>>739873642Yeah, this is the game that is being shilled and defended by fags who never played Gothic and don't understand it. Like the dev team.
>>739873642is that the newest controversy nowwho gives a shit, no one played gothic for that
>>739873758>fags who never played Gothic and don't understand it. Like the dev team.I don't think you know anything about the dev team. From what I've seen they're fully aware of what made the original a cult classic.
>>739873519looks like slop, npcs don't attack monsters
>>739873853>From what I've seen they're fully aware of what made the original a cult classic.
>>739873853Clearly>>739873580
>>739873883>no argumentJust as I thought
>>739873519It does. But it also looks incredibly easy with the added block and roll mechanics. Like, INSANELY easy.Overall it looks like an improvement over the Nyras demo and the game has come a long way since the god awful Playable Teaser. (Remember that shit?) It's cool to see a team who actually takes feedback and seems to care about the original game but I'm skeptical about how much better they could actually make it in a year or two...I'm cautiously watching this game's release. I really hope this remake is good but I'm sadly skeptical.
>>739873894>it must be 1:1It's a remake not a re-master. I don't agree with the change but it will also have zero impact on if the game is good or not.
It'd be interesting if the demo released last year wasn't garbage
this still isn't out yet?? i remember playing that demo they did almost 7 years ago.
>>739873853A lot of people don't know the development team was changed after the playable teaser.>>739873859You clearly didn't watch the video. They do.
>>739873973>>it must be 1:1Who are you quoting?
>>739873519The initial concept demo for the Gothic 1 demake all those years ago killed any hope I could've had for this.
>>739873519>we're directing the gameplay to be more skill-based rather than progression basedslightly concernedobviously you can kill everything in the game level 1 with the first weapon you find if you know what you're doing, but rags-to-riches progression IS what makes it ultimately incredibly satisfying as an RPG, so i hope the new mechanics they're adding like rolling and cleaving multiple enemies don't take away from that. coming across a pack of hard enemies early and noping out is a good feeling knowing you're gonna come back later and own them, if a more modern combat playstyle means you can pretty much take on anything but it's just slower than that's gonna feel bad
>>739873956>with the added block and roll mechanicsI was surprised to see that you could block a snapper, and it looks weird / wrong. As far as I remember from the Gothic games you could only block humanoids, not beasts.>I really hope this remake is good but I'm sadly skeptical.To me the odds of things being really good is 50%. The fact that they added some devs from Archolos gives me hope.
>>739873519I can already go replay Gothic when I want to. Fuck off.
>>739874115Yeah, and there's no stamina, or timing (like in the original) so you can just block indefinitely.
>dumb enemy>chuuni mc obliterates everyonelooks like generic power fantasy faggotry
>>739874060I'm paraphrasing. They can remake the game and change some things, while still feeling like the original. I'm not saying that they'll accomplish that (we'll know in a week), but I can envision a scenario where this feels like a proper Gothic game even if the women are not as whored out as they should be.
>>739874013They just restarted the whole thing after being laughed out the room basicallyThen they released another demo more recently, which isn't great but at least it tries I guessNow enough time after that last demo has passed that I don't know, I guess people expect good things, or something.
>>739874198>Yeah, and there's no staminaOuch, is this confirmed or not tied to the easy difficulty level. It would be a huge mistake.
>>739874231>while still feeling like the original.Doesn't feel like it to the original devs.
>>739874208>noo I must get girlbossed around by NPCs
>>739874347If you watch some of the actual dev videos you might come to a different conclusion.
>>739873519>The combat looks unironically good.Not Gothic then.
>>739873910Yeah, you don't have any arguments to defend this turd. It's "Gothic" for modern audiences who never played Gothic, made by modern devs who never played Gothic.
>>739873519Oh man, a gothic thread… got to see if I can post…Yeah, brought up quick reply, let me type in some words. Good, got a post up. See if I can send it…Damn! Forgot about the captcha, hope it’s not some weird squares again.Not required? Phew, now let’s post! Fuck! Forgot to ban evade!
>>739874429>Not Gothic then.I take it back, watching the video and the combat looks jank as fuck.Gothic bros we are so fucking back.
>>739874109Honestly playing several PB games I like that they don't prevent you from carving out a path without being too reliant on amazing equipment or stats.
>>739874431There's no evidence behind your claims. You might as well start throwing around woke, tranny, AI slop, and the rest of the buzzwords that are familiar here.
>>739873519it does not look good because of the massive camera shake every single time you get hit or hit something else
>>739874431The lead guy CLEARLY understands and loves the original Gothic if you watch the dev diaries.
>>739874469>we are so fucking back.see>>739874198I watched the video until the end and just like the game itself, it seems like the devs want to do their own spin on things which has me worried. I get it, I might have done the same as a dev, but the chances of their spin coming out better than the original are fairly small, seeing how not even Piranha Bytes could re-create their formula after G2.
it's literally shit, you just know it's alkimia devs or zoomers who never played the original shilling it here because every gothic fan is roasting this slop, many videos on yt showing how shit it is
>>739874609Yeah, I really hope you can turn that off.
just play end of eden instead
>>739873519shit is gonna bomb hard
>>739874658I would play it if it was releasedBesides it looks exactly as interesting as this remake which is not a lot
>>739874658>End of Eden is a love letter to the first two Gothic games.That looks kino, and it's made by poles which is encouraging. And the teaser comes out next week as well. Thanks anon, I shall be playing it.
>>739874540>>739874612I'm sure this is why they censored it and are making a product for the modern audiences who never played gothic.
>>739874621visual clarity is also a joke, you cant even see anything in broad daylight with all those ue5 shadows and overexposed lighting. I don't know how other developers fix this, but this literally looks like ue5 slop. Gothic 1 and 2 were my favorite games in my childhood and I didn't even bother trying the demo because of how shit this looks on video. It didn't even occur to me that these devs could be helped by my feedback because of how terrible this looks. The combat against orcs also looks bad, the biggest thing about orc combat was about how RELENTLESS they were. They would come at you and not stop, over and over again. Now it's like it's slowmo duel time with each orc.
>>739873519I had no idea this was even a thing and I like Gothic. Absolutely zero marketing. What the hell?
>>739874828>autistically focuses on a single itemJust say that you don't know shit about the remake except for that one item, and you extrapolate from it.
>>739874839>visual clarity is also a jokeThat was bound to happen with any modern looking game though. They could solve it by showing intractable items in your close vicinity.
>>739874901I actually played the originals so I know enough about the demake.
>>739874658>It's been just two months since we gathered the full team working on End of Eden, and production is already moving ridiculously fast.>Actually, so fast that we are releasing the Playable Teaser on June 3rd.>This will be a small but important chunk of our creative vision, and your first chance to play the game, test it, share feedback, and see what we are really building.>And yes, the timing is not a coincidence.>If you want to compare how two months of work from a small indie team looks next to years of work on a remake of a legendary RPG series, go ahead. That is a comparison we are ready for.I love this guy's attitude. My money is on the poles having the better game next week.
>>739874950So did I. But I looked into the remake as well. I don't expect it will be better, but it could be a good game in its own right.
>>739873973>but it will also have zero impact on if the game is good or notZero fucking standards in anything other than "is it fun to hit stuff".
Honestly my problem is with the visualsIn the demo I found it shit to just look for items
>>739875090That's a very low IQ take. It's about atmosphere, and you could capture the feeling of the original even if the clothing on some characters are not the same.
>>739875081yes and to be fair, that was what I wanted anyway. I said in the steam forums that they need to add something in addition to the original Gothic 1, otherwise it's too boring. We all played it plenty, it's not interesting if it's an exact 1:1 copy and I think they mostly understood this correctly. For example a troll being able to throw stones is a fantastic addition to the original. However much of the graphics, UI and combat looks bad. It might be fun to play anyway and that will be the only thing that can save them now.
>>739873519I think enemy nameplates are lame and reduces the immersion. It makes me feel like i'm playing a MMORPG just grinding and shit. I mean if I'm facing off against a skeleton I know what a skeleton looks like, I don't need "Skeleton" hovering over its head with a stupid HP bar like i'm in some gay Warcraft dungeon.
>>739875267The graphics look good imo and the combat might even be better than the original (while still keeping some jank / clankiness) - this guy does a good comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n02PvNpzBn8The UI is pretty crap though, there's no denying that, it's as if people have lost that skill as time went on.
>>739875358you are right, they changed that too. The name is supposed to be there but not the hp bar. That's supposed to be further up so you can only see it from your peripheral vision while during the combat you are not staring at a UI bar all day. I don't know why these people change such things, they just don't have the correct taste. https://youtu.be/S0TwvCpD8Ik?t=31
>>739873519the fact that they made the female sex slaves inot ugly looking girlbosses tells me enough to know that this game is not going to be for me.i can't even imagine how much they changed the story to push even more girlboss/woke shit into it.like would not suprise me if one of the female sex slaves is now a very importants story character wo constantly rescues and insulted the weak and incompetent male "lead"
>>739873580washed up dev turns into a xitter chud, gets 20 likes on his based anti-remake xeet
>>739874406well its supposed to be gothic
i won't like it because of the looks, it looks extremely muted. even if the combat is good the feel is just off.
>>739875480and on top of that he triggers reseterafags like you
>>739875598Thats literally gothic 1 tho.As someone who played all of them including Risen. 1 is the fucking worst, 2 is peak video games, and 3 is okay with patches/mods.I hope they get to 2, I dont know why they started with 1. They should have done like Silent Hill and start with the one actually worth a shit
>>739873519>The combat looks unironically goodNot my gothic
>>739875640>dude, you did a heckin' reseterorino!smash your balls with a ball peen hammer retard
don't careI played the originals and have no need for an inferior game for more moneystop consooming
>>739875676and change my name to emiliy so I can be just like you
>>739875660Gothic 1 is the best though and 3 was mediocre.
shills are not even subtle about it
>>739875660>Thats literally gothic 1 tho.wrong. gothic 1 feels like a 1700 century painting, immersive alone what is held it
>>739873519This looks like its gonna play like shit on console and run like ass, so ill pass for now.
>>739875726There is not one single way in all of the parallel universes we live in in which 1 is better than 2 so shut the fuck up
>>739875747>Its supposed to look like brown shit
>>739875846 ok newchuddie
Imagine a game where using different weapons actually matters>Bashing weapons like clubs, maces and hammers can be used to disorient human enemies wearing helmets if you aim for the head with a strong attack, if you aim for the knee you can kneecap them>Armored monsters can resist slicing attacks but you can aim between the segments to do damage instead >You can get your weapon stuck in certain enemies if you use a certain weapon and use a strong attack (ie an axe or a sword against a monster with bark skin)>Other monsters may have a lot of blubber or fat that can help them absorb blunt blows, but are more vulnerable to slashing weapons>Smarter or better trained humans can mix and match different armor so no weapon type is 100% effective, they may have padding beneath their armor to absorb the shock from blunt trauma, for example>Monsters and enemies all vary in strategies. Some fight in packs, others zerg rush, some are ambushers, some are cowards and run away if they are in a group and too many of them die, others become enraged, others are opportunists or will fight dirty, etc>Slashing weapons can make enemies bleed if combo properly >Magic is a double edged sword, very powerful but can cripple you too, you can cover yourself in rock armor but it slows down your mobility unless your character is very strong, but if you're invested in magic you can bypass the weakness by using magic to teleport around and rely on ranged attacks, fire can burn you too if you aren't careful, electricity conducts through certain materials, etc
>>739875790NOTR is fucking dogshit
>>739873519It'll be a horribly unoptimised mess. Visually, it has no art direction, no color grading, no lighting direction. Just default unreal settings, global lighting that makes you feel like you're inside a nuclear blast. They didn't recreate Gothic's mood at all.
>>739875998>Visually, it has no art direction, no color grading, no lighting direction. Just default unreal settings, global lighting that makes you feel like you're inside a nuclear blast.More of a reason why https://store.steampowered.com/app/4176140/End_of_Eden/ seems like the better choice
>>739876090why do you keep shilling this, it's not out until 2027. We get it, you are polish, we'll check the game out when it's available.
>>739873519Looks like a UE game.
>>739873519>funded by Embracer Groupoh i'll be having a blast
>>739876218A playable teaser comes out next week doe.
>>739876090>anon 1 hates the anti soul gas>anon 2 replies with an alternative game that uses even more anti soul gas, and its not even out yet
>remaking a game>they don't like the original
>>739876090You shill the wrong game. You might not like it but this is how Gothic spiritual successor looks like.https://store.steampowered.com/app/1739080/Sword_Hero/
>>739873956I am also skeptical and wondering if the spanish cunts will add any mod support.
Nah
>>739876459I tried it. I got filtered by the combat. I'll give it a proper shot once a demo for the actual game comes out.I'm not sure about the sci-fi angle in the game, but it's trying its own thing so I respect that.
Why does it look like skyrim
>>739873580This dude kisses feet at BLM rallies.
>>739873519I've never played a Gothic game, but I think I'll play this, looks good
>>739874157That's the point , retard. I've had years to play the original and haven't because it looks like shit. This new version looks better and has my interest. Nobody is taking the original away from you.
>>739873519Not buying that after they added some faggy e-celeb into this game
>>739873519Something about this looks odd. Compared to the original, the attacks seem oddly slow and overly telegraphed. In the original, the attacks themselves seemed to come out fast, but had a long recovery window after, here they're more even speed overall and thus slower.
>>739873853A lot of poles/slavs are mad that it would be woke, they eat up the "fighting against the MAN" grift hard
>>739876937true>>739875401ok this video convinced me that the game could be good. Not because of the combat though, that and graphics and UI still look bad just like I said before. But they added plenty of cool stuff that I didn't expect, totally new monster combat behaviors too and you can even see fish underwater.
>>739873975At the very least the latest footage doesn't look like the demo anymore.
>>739874793>love letter to the first two Gothic games.>similar to games you've played: Tainted GrailSteam really is retarded sometimes.
>gothic remake
only germoids (and, lord forbids, polacks) give a shit about this horrible series
>>739875934Nah I loved the Pirates, the ancient civilization was fun to learn about as well as exploring the added map.
>>739877008>"fighting against the MAN" griftMen aren't scared of half naked women thoughbeit. Men aren't in charge of culture right now, it's enuchs and women. Might wanna change that to >Fighting against the TROONMYN"or something like that. The "myn" part is from feminists who hate men so hard that for a while they spelled "woman" as "womyn" because the word "woman" had "man" in it.
>>739876459Looks interesting but being able to solo half a dozen dudes using a broken sword doesn't sound like gothic at all. At the start the Nameless Hero can't even deal with half a dozen rats.
>>739876869Literally who?
>>739876869>faggy e-celeb into this gameWho?
>>739873519>remakeslophmm yeah dont care
>>739874540>>739874612>There's no evidence behind your claims>lead guy CLEARLY understands and loves the original GothicAh yes, let´s just skip the fact that it´s a mostly manly open air penal colony, now it´s just an open world to explore freely with modern state of mind. The danger of the world will also be tuned down or completely taken away (difficulty settings incoming) because the devs couldn´t be arsed to proper game testing and making the challenge universal. This alone changes Gothic into a average ARPG slopfest. The worst part is, you can clearly see after playing the demo and watching the marketing material. The devs don´t care about the good gothics 1+2, and rather take inspiration from the worst gothics like arcana or dawn of gods. Fuck this demake, fuck the devs and fuck shills like you.
>>739876869added it like what face-scanned it?
>>739876289Why are there niggers in a gothic game, which I assume takes places in a medieval like Europe, in the first place?
>>739873580And when was his last contribution?funny he doesn't post that
>>739877809>>739877832>>739878097https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dkjyvLZF_xUSome german guy that is probably too young to have ever played the original.
>>739878219In the original lore there were countries in the southern hemisphere, mostly arab inspired, down to the names and a few niggers as well. Obviously several browns were thrown into prison.
>>739878059>Difficulty levelThe Gothic / normal one will be the default. Nothing suggests they haven't balanced around it. Difficulty levels is just a way to target a larger audience.>The devs don´t care about the good gothics 1+2, and rather take inspiration from the worst gothics like arcana or dawn of gods.Based on what? They referenced G1 and G2 a lot.
>>739875660I hope the studio gets axed before they can touch G2. Like Blupoint, their death, would be 100% deserved. Remake studios deserve nothing but contempt.
>>739878240Yeah his voice acting is trash but since it's only a minor npc I don't care. I can't say I liked the german lines for the nameless hero though. His delivery didn't sound nice at all.
>>739878240Out of all the silly reasons to not give this game a shot...
Too long didn't watchAny changes to spell casting?I played the originals as a melee build since no mana regen really bothered me
>crocodile takes a bite at a lightly armored MC>takes 5% hp damagelollmao even
>>739878389Also not paying 50€ for a game I already finished like 10 times
>>739878274>Difficulty levels is just a way to target a larger audience.This is the way if you´re a shit dev and cant balance things out. Did G1 or 2 need difficulty levels? They didn´t had it, because the devs had a vision and you had to experience it.Did Fromsoft put a difficulty slider into ER to> target a larger audience.they didn´t, instead they gave you a fuckton of tools which made the game easy or difficulty. Sliders are just a cheap excuse for not giving enough tools to the player. >Based on what? They referenced G1 and G2 a lot.>referenced G1 and G2 a lot.talk is cheap and marketing material>cant be arsed to make one difficutly like G1 and 2 did. Im so tired of shills.
>>739878462I'll pirate it first and depending on how much it pisses me off I might buy it later. Also gonna wait and see if they add mod support.
Predict the steam scoreI say 65%
>>739878530>This is the way if you´re a shit dev and cant balance things out.Or if the publisher or some management layer pushes for this to increase sales. As long as the normal mode is balanced, I won't be affected by an option I won't use.
>>739876806>because it looks like shitBrain issue
>>73987860975%
>>739878620I'll play hard because I don't trust the spaniards and it won't feel like Gothic unless I get the shit kicked out of me by woodland critters.
the only thing worth waiting for is sword hero
>>739878713Like that guy said above, being able to come out the gate kicking 5 guys' ass is not a gothic experience.
>>739878440You didn't play the original. Gothic 1's lizards are low-ish level mobs worth around 100 xp or so.
I hope this game bombs, but it probably won't because the fanbase is cucked.
>>739878620> if the publisher or some management layer pushes for this to increase salesNot taking the time to craft a dangerous world is obviously also in the name of "increasing sales" because fuck the OG vision.I wonder what else is being pushed to "increased sales".Bet that making the sex slaves into housekeeping maids was also to "increase sales". Maybe turning Lester into a tranny would increase sales aswell, dont you think?
>>739878821Yet the same shit happens vs orcs that one shot you for half the game
>>739878945Show timestamp
>>739878878which fanbase isn't cucked?
Speaking of Orcs I can't say I like their new design. They just look like bigger negrified humans with fucked up faces.Old ones had that retard gorilla build that was humanoid but far from human.
>>739874406How about a game with weight and substance where even the normiest low level normie could still kill you, like it still takes an effort, like changing weapon type to deal with certain enemy weakness, different approach etc. That's what the Souls games do best. Those fucking stone Imps in ER for example. That's what makes a good game, good: having weight and substance. There was a retard OP some days ago saying Souls games aren't "fair". What a fucking dumbfuck. Even real world is unfair. You have to git gud to get to their level, or surpass beyond them. It all takes effort, everything does. And then he compared it to chuuni weeb trash like DMC etc. Like WTF are you talking about? How is an animay power fantasy "fair"? Your MC alone with the power God and Animay, that's fair? No you fucking dumbfuck weeb. A "fair" animay games would also mean a level fucking 1 skeleton zombie could also Press Triangle to Juggle your fucking character in the air and press X to flyslop around the map. That's fucking fair. I'm sick of all of this power fantasy style over substance trash. Special snowflake chunni Kpop MMO Gachaslop garbage. It's fucking cancer. All Western CRPG/ARPG will be replaced with Crimson Desert faggotry one day. Everything will be brainrot gachaslop. Just like how the art community and sites around the world are dead because traditional/ classical artists have fled the original community. It's all filled with turd polishing weebs trying to "learn how to draw animay" and circlejerk each other shit on the sites.
I'd buy it if it didn't cost so much, still I wish it all the bestjust gonna pirate it just like I did with original 20+ years ago
>gothic>combat goodkek
>>739879032true. never engage with any.
>>739878389nta but I refuse to play dispatch for the same reasonnot funding digital jesters that would be in the streets or dead were it not for the internet
>>739879236Dispatch had more e-celebs than it had normal voice actors, from what I can tell the remake only has one single retard voicing an unimportant npc. I wouldn't even had noticed if I hadn't know before.
>>739878982https://youtu.be/vlGRIh9wef8?si=tJ8qxP68NzpU0OHf&t=95
Who cares. Gothic is a dogshit action adventure game only popular because it was the only thing available to poorfags in some former soviet shithole.
>>739878530>Did G1 or 2 need difficulty levels?They didn't but almost all mods for them since 2010 had difficulty settingsConsidering they only hired spanish and modders it's inevitable
>>739878225>but what have you done recently? HUHFaggot argument. Kill yourself.
>>739873519aren't the devs a bunch of woke retards? I thought they made the tits of some NPCs smaller or some shit, am I misremembering?
>>739879348it's not about quantity, it's about the principle
>>739879396Ok I see it now but that armour is medium at the very least which means the hero also has a few levels to his name. I am also guessing the footage was made using the easy difficulty since we all know neither devs not urinalists can into playing video games.
>>739879492Larry Fink sends his regards.
>>739879502A fair point but random retard streamers won't bother me and if they do I will just kill them in-game. What I am more concerned about is how ugly/tranniefied the women still are and whether there is mod support happening.
>>739879509or maybe they just used dev console to add bunch of shit to showcase and not just recording their playthrough?
>>739874109I played through Gothic several times, but I'm by no means an expert, so I'm wondering: How do you kill, say, a swampshark at level 1 with a rusty pickaxe, if each of your hits does exactly 0 damage?I know it's possible in Gothic 2 to kill strong enemies with weak weapons. I've gone straight to the valley of mines right after leaving Xardas' tower, armed with nothing but a stick, in order to beat up an orc elite camping around the castle, but how do you do it in Gothic 1?
As someone who enjoyed G3 I tell you this looks like shit
>jeets crying about game not being gooner enough when every actual gothic player would rather not have women present at alllmao
>>739873519>The combat looks unironically good.I mean, considering you gothicfags have nonexistent standards I guess you're sorta right
>>739879421It's one of the best PC games of all time
>>739879727Why would you bereft Gomez and Y'berion their bitches?
>>739879703nta but yeah he talks out of his ass unless "first weapon" for him is unlimited amount of fireball scrollsyou literally do 0 damage if enemy has more armor than you have damage
>>739879681Also possible either way I will pirate it first to see what it's like.
>>739879727And yet we got the worst of both worlds
>>739879727Hello, oldfag gothic player who played the games on release, genuinely please kill yourself.
>>739878240>germans simp for this faggotJesus
>>739879838Some do so maybe but the comments for that clip all shit on his bad voice acting.
>>739879396>women dev talking Now we know what happened to the Gothic remake
Risen 3 is the only PB game where the gameplay is actually fun and varied with everything being viable, including all sorts of different weapons, all Factions having magic but a different focus/spell style, and you fags complained because it was "too easy"Too bad they went back to insufferable Gothic trash gameplay in Elex and then Elex 2 finally killed the studio, a merciful release at last
>>739878240I'm German, have no idea how this is and the cameo would have went right over my head if it weren't for you
>>739879785>be King>need more Ore>send some old hags to those prisoners>shipments stop
Why is the game so fucking dark and bright at the same time?it's like someone just cracked the contrast up to 100 in a night scene. This bothered me so much in the demo. I guess modders will need to fix this issue, as the devs are clearly unable to.
>>739879902it was too easy past chapter 1, you could just rape everything that moves past thatwhat's the point of one guild having runes and other crystals when there isn't anyone worthwhile to use them on
>>739879872I just mean in general. He's got big simp numbers.
>>739879946>shipments stop>war against the orcs is lost>Women destroy yet another civilization>>739879998Fair but retarded streamers with thousands of simps can be found for every language, especially english.
>>739879724I also enjoyed G3 immensely. The combat is pure trash but the exploration is top. One of the best exploration games in the RPG genre besides Dragons Dogma and Dark Souls
>>739878920>anon finds out devs want to make games that sellMore news at 11
>>739873519the facial animations are fucking terriblelook at what they did to my boy cavalor
>>739880309I firmly believe combat there is a placeholder they put 1 day before release
I'll check it out if it isn't censored
>>739879739Compared to what? The elder scrolls series? kek
>>739880943>Immediately brings out TES unpromptedYep, it's a gothicfagStill seething about being inferior even compared to Todd's shovelware
100% will be censored
>>739880943>>739881139Both have some decent ideas and concepts, but suck big league as a whole. Could've be done better.
>Gothic thread>half of the people in the thread were born after skyrim came out>they insist on spouting their garbage opinions anyway
Im Polish and i love Gothic.
As a remake to my fave series its gonna be>pirate first>pay laterwont support a studio that rapes my childhood but if its good nice.I love gothic 2 and archolos so much and also the whole gothic mod scene, thank you brothers.
>>739873519>movement controlled combat>unique attack styles based on weapon typeThat could be interesting, though it remains to be seen just how different the new system is from the old.The old one was a bit jank, but in a way that felt satisfying to master.I still absolutely hate the excessive use of fog and desaturated color filter they use, that looks fucking hideous and needs to stop being the goto for newer games.
>>739880859>it´s about shipping games>n-n-no it´s not about taking blackrock money, identity politics, inclusion of subhumes or emancipitation of males from their toxic masculinity6.000.000 units sold, day1.
>>739873853>From what I've seen they're fully aware of what made the original a cult classic.Yeah, like the playable teaser? Get real, lefty.
I'm about 5000% more excited for the big Archolos update than for this Gothic remake
>>739882674The one released years ago? That was made by a different dev.
>>739882710Isn't everyone?Any word on new content (quests, maybe even areas)?
>>739882820>studio of shitters in barceloona gives a playable teaser, working for THQ nordic>THQ nordic says "ok, you are now alkemia studios", studios in barecelloona is doing the full remake>it´s a different studiosure my m8
Hows the original, german, VA?Is it like the original
>>739883030Only heard a few lines but so far it didn't sound too good.
>>739883076Bummer
>>739873519Absolute goyslopPlay gothic1 and 2 Without any mods they still feels perfectly fine
>>739883030Sucks ass, even the same VAs as back then obviously have very shitty direction this time around.But the state of German VAs is in the shitter anyway.
>>739883203Here's hoping there's gonna be a gothic 1 original voice mod or something
>>739883213People say stuff like that but I really don't get it. Why even care about this demake at all? It will obviously be trash and there is no reason for it to even exist, I don't see how mods will fix that.
>>739883213Haven't heard a single word about mod support so far but somebody could easily use an AI voice and feed it new lines where necessary.
>>739883268To have an option>>739883276There's a cool TTS tool that uses all gothic german VAs, pretty funny stuff you can do with it
>>739873519never forget that they turned the eyecandy whores into troons and one of em is inspired by richi sunak.>>739873580Dev shill thread failed on post 1
>>739873519Looks like a budget title. Which would not be an issue if it was a sequel, but what's the point of a remake if it's already dated on release? Should I wait for Gothic Remake Remake to play it with modern visuals? Should have made a new game instead.
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>>739879421>only thing available to poorfags>required a really good pc when it came out compared to bethesda slopstill looks good 20 years later with basic enviromental mods
>>739883446Based and true
Its looks very jank....
>>739883385SAAAR
>>739883385>>739883515
>>739883268Desperation mostly. Basically no games scratch the same itch and the industry is being shitty in general. Mods could make it worthwhile assuming the game's foundation isn't complete trash.>>739883340>Ihr seid so todes dämlich, ihr seid dümmer, ich bin schlauer>Deshalb disse ich euch Penner in der Sprache der Erbauer
>>739883446truth.>>739883457seething shill
>>739883395>Looks like a budget title.bait used to be better
>releasing game during NuE3 week
>>739883790There is a good chance they have no idea about NuE3
>>739883687I'm happy for you if you look at those combat animations and see high production values, must be nice to not have standards.
>>739883890Everyone in the game industry knows about Geoffs E3 replacement and that snoy and xbox and nintendo will all do something next week
>>739873519Gothic is one of my favourite games of all time and I am not gonna bother with this shit, ignored on steam, never gonna play it. Remake Devs can rot in hell as can everyone who supports this with their money.
>>739883943All I remember from the last E3 is that Geoff tried to shill Highguard but instead it became Concord 3.They are correct to ignore it.
>>739883917I look at the entire package. it's by no means a AAA title but saying it looks low budget is lunacy.Also, are we still talking about the gothic games because they have always been low budget, this is just part for the course.
>Women in a prison camp look like women in a prison campWoooooooow!!
>>739884032I think that was the game awards
>>739884104You are probably right, I guess all these vidya meme shows just blend together for me.
>>739875790The colony is more kino as a setting. Apart from that you are objectively correct.
>>739873519Soulless engineslop.Absolute trash
I hope instead of 2 remake they will make gothic sequel remake
>censoredslopno thanks
>>739873519These fonts look like GARBAGE
>>739875159>you can capture the atmosphere of the original even if you sterilize parts of the atmosphere which made the original what it wasWhat kind of stupid post is this?>>739876090Didn't know about this but I'll try the demo.>>739876459First game I ever backed on kickstarter and I can't wait for it to come out. Fucked around in the pre-alpha a bit and the bones of a really great game are all there. I hope he can deliver on his promises about quests and NPCs and whatnot. The systems all seem fantastic.
>>739873853I sometimes wonder if the devs who keep hiring shills go out there and look at how their shills work.>Pajeet is insulting our potential clients by insisting that 2+2 is 5 to their face, that's good marketing right there, they'll certainly buy our game now
>>739873519>they made Gothic rollslopGood fucking lord
>>739884101Most civilized poopjeet in this thread.But still to much rooted in his own fantasy world.Imagine if India had only 3 women. They wouldn´t wear any type of fabrics on their body and be most probably dead.So why do the only 3 holes in the colony wear the same peasant clothes as the diggers outside the camp.
>>739873519i remember playing the Beta of this remake like... I don't know, 8 years ago or somethingThe directional combat used lock-on aiming like in For Honor. it sucked ass, because there was zero animation blending/cancelling, and the animations felt slow and weak as shit
Is this a remake or a remaster? Anything like the Crisis Core thing and the Metroid Prime thing or the MGS3 thing or Assassins Creed Black Flag thing are still all remasters as they are still the same basic game as the originals. Only games like Resident Evil 1,2,3,4, and Silent Hill 2 and Final Fantasy 7 and Metroid 1 and 2 got actual remakes as they used nothing from the originals other than the general premise of the games.
>>739884070>they have always been low budget, this is just part for the course.I agree, which is why remaking it is retarded to begin with. Just make a sequel.
>>739885012They did, it was garbage and the MC reached Apotheosis, so what the fuck now?
>>739885005Not as divorced from the original as FF7, but definitely closer to Capcom's remakes than the previous examples. I would agree with your definitions. Hearing Ubisoft call Black Flag a "from the ground up remake" and then you look at the comparisons and you can see the exact same interactible geometry and the same animation skeletons being used for cutscenes, as well as copypasted camera work is insulting to the work that actually goes into making a videogame "from the ground up"
>>739882710Isn't that only restarting development after the G1 remake comes out? Any word on how long it'll be?
>>739884684>make baseless claim>gets corrected>muh pajeet shills
>>739885005>Only games like Resident Evil 1,2,3,4, and Silent Hill 2 and Final Fantasy 7 and Metroid 1 and 2 got actual remakes as they used nothing from the originals other than the general premise of the games.>used nothing from the originalsthis is pure bullshit, the foundation is there because otherwise the games wouldn´t sell.>definetly not nostalgia baiting>no creativly bankrupt and changing the original gameplay to modern tps/tpaa templates ala tlou/for honorbut to answer your question, it´s a demake, like all the shit you´ve mentioned in the category.
>>739885275Hey, I don't have a problem with you in particular.Scamming demake creating faggots, couple rupees per post, while accidentally making sure no one who ever interacts with you buys the game is probably the most honest pay you've ever earned in your parasitic life.
>>739873519Funny the remake looks so fucking good that they only thing doomers have resorted to complain about is muh wymen that you see for 2 seconds in the old camp and are trying to make it seem like it's a giagantic state of affair.I bet they never played Gothic in their entire life and are just grifters like SyntheticMan.>Stays faithful to the old formula>Visuals are ok (for UE5 soulless standards)>No handholding (Skyrim compasses, quest markers etc.)>Reintroduced cut features like Trolls throwing stuff>Says it's gonna flesh out the later half a bit more since it was fairly weak in the OGThat's all I needed really
>>739873519just look at that disgusting unreal engine plastic with that shrill lighting
>>739885687>Visuals are ok (for UE5 soulless standards)That's good enough for you? Really?
>>739885535I don't have a problem with you either, just retards in general. Some people in here had legitimate reasons to dislike or not be interested in the game (the lighting is shit, I played the original enough times, etc) and some were talking out of their ass (devs have no idea what Gothic is about, which is objectively false).
>>739875934eat your fathers excrement you golem
>>739876289>pícis that really from the gothic remake?I'm not judging anything here as I haven't played the original game but, did the original even have a character creator?
Why did it take them like 6 or 7 years to make such a basic remake?
>>739885748>did the original even have a character creator?no
>>739873519>The combat looks unironically good.I didn't see any stat and gear implementation. So I'll hold my breath and wait for release to see if it actually is or if it's lowbrow normalfag action trash
this is the combat designer, I'm 99% sure that it looks ok in previews but in reality, after playing it, it's gonna be fucking awful
>>739885748>did the original even have a character creator?Nope>>739885753Not like the rest of industry is spoiling us with their achievements. At least the remake didn't end up costing half a billion to make.
>>739885707Sure, back to The Message.Keep up the good work, you can pat yourself on the back and say you contributed when this disaster inevitably flops.
>>739885706Yeah it looks enough, the problem is the saturation, hopefully we get a slider, otherwise i'm just gonna use Reshade
>>739885857Well I disagree completely. It looks generic as fuck even given a better saturation.>vignetteFucking disgusting, man>resorting to ReshadeNgmi
>>739885753Because games now take forever to make >Oblivion released in 2006>Skyrim in 2011>we are currently in 2026
>>739885828motherfucker, just get comb you skank, not expensive, not arcane knowledge.Yeah if this is the combat designer you just know there will be no originitality.
>>739885895It doesn't look generic as fuck, in fact they did a good job at capturing that look of everything looking gritty and muddy instead of shiny new like these UE games often tend to do
>>739873519Combat in Gothic was always unironically good and only newfags would disagree.
>>739885831Well ok but its not like this is a remake of some enormous 200 hour game. They should have been able to get this remade in like 3 years.
>>739885835>someone can only look forward to a gave on /v/ if they're shillsThe embodiment of the retardation I've come to expect from this board. I hope this flops as hard as KCD2.
>>739886027It looks like every other UE5 slop there is though
>>739886027Nigger are they actually paying you to shill this shit? It looks like the most generic, low-budget slop fantasy game possible.Anyone who is actually excited for this trash should be beaten to death, it would be better for society.
>>739873519You fag deserve everything that is being done to you, instead of moving on and creating new stuff you keep asking for old stuff to be remade, well enjoy this pile of shit.
>>739886027>they did a good job at capturing that look of everything looking gritty and muddyThey did a good job of capturing that look the originals didn't haveAmazing job
>>739886136>>739886141Prove it then
>>739886204>instead of moving on and creating new stuff you keep asking for old stuff to be remadeNobody asked for this shit you inbred retard
>>739886082If the team where based in germany or poland they probably would've risen above industry standard and given us a gem within 3 years. However we are talking about a team based in a country known for its laziness and we are also in current year. Since they are lazy retard spaniars they wasted a bunch of fucking time taking the game in unrecognizable direction, which we saw in the demo. Probably several years that went down the drain after they got their deserved backlash. But they did improve at the very least.
>>739885828>sar pantoja
>>739873519Bruh who the fuck cares about Gothic besides the few people who actually played it and the posers who praise "the classics", despite never playing them
>>739886214Yes the prisoner colony confined amidst mines and other pieces of rugged shit is such a shining and well policed place
>>739885828Holy shit this demake is donezo.
>>739886268>nobody asked for ityet everyone is still talking about it to this day?
>>739885828>Godfather fontIn a Gothic game? Why? It looks so fucking bad
>>739886329Dude piranha bytes tried like 5 times to recreate the succes of Gothic 1 and 2 and failed miserably. I'll take some spaniards over them.In an ideal world, all Gothic games would be handled by poles.
>>739886516Ask Grok to explain to you what an "artstyle" is you brainrotted zoomie
>the 3 women in the game are ugly nowgothic was my first 3D RPG and I replayed it several times as a kid. I will not spend a single cent on the remake, not even gonna pirate it. a DEI retard touched the game? -1 sale from me + bad word of mouth whenever it gets mentioned while I'm around.
>>739886686>ugly womenWhat annoys me is that we haven't actually seen anything of those bitches ever since their initial reveal as peasant dressed trannies. I don't actually know if the filthy spaniards changed any of that.
>>739885828I dont get it. Why is everyone seething? Do you expect game dev women to look like attractive stacies?
>>739873956To be fair, Gothic WAS pretty easy.
>>739886870We expect that none of the senior designers are femoid.
>>739886870>women
>>739883385I'm sure this will be remediated in the mods promptly
>>739887048I'm sorry you can't do that.
>>739885687Because nobody can talk about the gameplay you retarded troglodyte. >Funny the remake looks so fucking goodit´s always the same with shills.looking good = great gamelooking bad = mobile shitmeanwhile in reality, "mobile shit" like mewgenics has replayablitiy for days while the "good looking" games play all the fucking same. Cant wait for the remake where we get magnetic combat, modern censorship of language (you will never see someone in the game calling you retarded or a faggot), questmarkers and the compass to guide you to your quest, addition of sliders to make the game accessible for mouth breathers and all the other DEI shit we didn´t seen yet. And if you think that Embracer isn´t another red flag, then I hope for you that you at least get paid to shill this shit.
>>739885012If you wanted Gothic to have a proper continuation you would have to retcon 3 which means another remake.
>>739886757they changed it but it only improved by like 15%. It's still bad. https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1r3a8if/gothic_1_remake_women_dont_seem_to_look_like/
>>739873519This is just Skyrim but with combat mods.
>>739885687buddy they already alluded to the fact that the women will have story significance now. They will probably have one of them be like Laura Craft and give the sleeper the killing blow while mocking the protagonist
>>739887487I saw those pics months ago and yeah the standing one has the body and face of dude but the sitting brunette looks alright.
>>739873859Wait really? Such basic AI existed in the original game and somehow today they can't recreate it?
>>739878647>just play the original it looks good ha ha ha fuck off. I'm not a poorfag
>>739873519nice puzzle lilbro, I couldn't even see the giant glowing ball inside the enemy
>>739885748Bottom's from another game funded by the same people, meaning their virtue signaling will be in gothic too.
>>739887129>>739887635schizos are already out lel
>>739888120Nothing schizo about the fact that (((embracer))) are involved.
>>739888159you are lying about the game and making up scenarios in your own mind, you are a schizo get some help
Looks really good. Probably buying a week or two after launch once they iron out the biggest bugs.
>>739887740https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCmTimOqhY0&t=9m43s
>>739888789what the fuck is that half creature on the right
>>739888938dev of the gothic remake killer (end of eden)
>>739888789What a disaster, I was planning to play it for free but not I'm not going to bother.
>You're a jeet if you're against censorshipWtf is this thread? Is this board just Reddit/Resetera trolling now?
>>739888938A type of abhuman referred to as "pole"
>>739888996chuds are very easy to get a rise out of
>>739888938might make a good trap
>>739888938>>739889017>mutts seeing a white person for the first time
>>739889054This, it must be so exotic for them to gaze at a European.
>>739873580>>739883385Mods will fix that, stop complaining. We've been asking for a remake for years. If you don't buy this we're never getting Gothic 2 remake just fyi
>>739889054kurva marek shut you dumb mouth
>>739889102Mods that reinforce white culture are banned.
>>739889102>If you don't buy this we're never getting Gothic 2 remake just fyithat's a good thing
>>739889193Only if you're a normalfag wokie who gets his mods on Nexus>>739889217No it's not, Gothic 2 is a great game but very old and precisely the type of game that needs to be remade unlike all these 5 year old games that are getting the remakes
>>739889326ayakamods is shit and rightfully getting closed down soon, Nexus has teh most mods
>>739873519Imagine digging up Piranha Bytes' corpse and wearing it in public
>>739883385This is the kind of shit that should tell you there's something seriously wrong with society today.If even creative vision is bastardized like this for the sake of the feelings of retards, then you don't have a society. You have a corporate hellscape where advertisement and consumerism is above freedom and expression.The sheer amount of hypocrisy and irony at play here cannot be understated. I get I'll get flak for this, but this is actually the result of Jewish Zionist influence. America is owned by Israel like a hoe is owned by her pimp. Your representatives DO NOT represent you. Lobbying doesn't give a fuck about you or your family or your opinion. And you still go out and vote. Yeah... good luck with that.
>>739889813Don't need to imagine, most the industry is some variation of decaying corpse.
>>739889102>We've been asking for a remake for years
>>739873519I can't blieve they went and made a remake of this shit game
I still need to finish my playthrough of the first one. Just a lot of time wasted making notes and keeping track of what NPC wants what, and from 'where', which doesn't help when 80% of the NPCs look the fucking same.
>>739875934The added landmass and quests are great but turning the original game into a poopsock simulator without an option to turn it off sucked major tranny ass.
>>739889875>there's something seriously wrong with society today>slowpoke.pngI knew that 10 years ago, I'm just passing the time hoping for some half decent games until Ragnarök finally arrives.
>>739873519are the chicks still ugly?
>>739883385MetaHumans should be a tag on Steam so I can just ignore every game that uses it, because they all look the fucking same.
>>739890079You may know it, but normies are like 2 decades behind you an I.Even three decades sometimes. They're cognitively atrophied to that extent when it comes to social and civic awareness. They just consume like mindless drones. If they didn't, FIFA and Madden would not sell a single fucking copy.
>>739875905>>Bashing weapons like clubs, maces and hammers can be used to disorient human enemies wearing helmets if you aim for the head with a strong attack, if you aim for the knee you can kneecap themthat's what helmets and shin guards prevent on any competent armor>>Armored monsters can resist slicing attacks but you can aim between the segments to do damage instead humans can't even aim that well in reality, let alone in a 1st/3rd person game>>You can get your weapon stuck in certain enemiesthat's just annoying>>Other monsters may have a lot of blubber or fat that can help them absorb blunt blows, but are more vulnerable to slashing weaponsyeah, different damage types are already a thing in games and easy to implement>>Smarter or better trained humans can mix and match different armor so no weapon type is 100% effective, they may have padding beneath their armor to absorb the shock from blunt trauma, for exampleThat's just not how armor works and having various layers, i.e. padding beneath ringmail is part of the standard armor. It's just brainlet devs that think armors are only made of one material.>>Monsters and enemies all vary in strategies.That is already happening in most games. >>Slashing weapons can make enemies bleed if combo properly Bleeds are already a thing in games. Just not very fun. >Magic is a double edged sword, very powerful but can cripple you too, you can cover yourself in rock armor but it slows down your mobility unless your character is very strong, but if you're invested in magic you can bypass the weakness by using magic to teleport around and rely on ranged attacks, fire can burn you too if you aren't careful, electricity conducts through certain materials, etcnice in theory, but clunky in practice
>>739890087who gives a fuck? there are 4 female characters in the entiree game, none of which have dialogue, they are in 2 rooms, one in the old camp in gomez' room and in the swamp camp in yberion's room and they never leave those. again, they have no dialogue, no quest involvement, the only time they are actively shown is for 1 secomd in the intro. why is every single thing I read about this game "what about the women" from newfags?
>>739891746I don't particularly care about the NPC's themselves but if they are completely trannified it will make it clear to me what other kinds of bullshit I can expect from the rest of the game. If they look decent then I will also have a positive outlook on the rest.Nothing is certain mind you, I will pirate this game before I buy it, if at all.
>>739889875>I get I'll get flak for this, but this is actually the result of Jewish Zionist influence. America is owned by Israel like a hoe is owned by her pimp.This won't get you flak here save a few faggots who blew in from reddit and think they're in good company. The only problem people here have is when retarded third world children start screaming about how everything is a slop humiliation ritual because a game didn't use chink gachashit designs.
Yo this game's gonna be the fucking bomb
>>739873859>>739888789Fuck. This was always one of the fun part of Gothic games, especially on earleir levels.
>>739885828Honestly she looks autistic enough to where it might work
>>739894628It's not. They fucked it up in multiple ways.
>>739889875>>739890079In reality, Israel is not-so-secretly controlled by the US. Trump is doing negotiations and letting Iran recover from the initial damage, instead of trying to win the war and sending american soldiers to die on the foreign soil - like chuds were telling us would happen. Israel was also attacking Iran with the US, and israelis were dying for the US - instead of making the US do everyting if it truly was Israel's puppet. Israel is also not allowed to properly attack Hezbollah while America is negotiating with Iran.The military aid Israel is getting every year is used as a leash that allows the US order what Israel can or can't do. I don't think the american goverment would be happy to get rid of that leash.
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>>739894982There is someone out there that actually unironically believes this to be the case.
>>739889102>We've been asking for a remake for yearsNo "we" haven't. neck yourself zoomzoom.
>>739888789>autistic polish takedownThis took my anticipation for the game down a couple of notches.
>>739891746>women everywhere>all girlbossesYou'll see.
>>739895487millenigoyim melty
>>739895309We had people like you actually unironically believing that Netanyahu is dead, and all videos with him appearing in public and telling he is alive were AI. If you were wrong there and the jews were telling the truth, how many times were you projecting your own delusions into the outside world, and demanding the reality itself to bend according to your wishes?
>>739895730>immediately starts kvetching against a strawman he made upRiveting.
I DON'T CAREWHEREIS THE ARCHOLOS PATCH
>>7398963482.0 doesn't resume work till the remake comes out before some of their lead devs are working on it.
>>739896348Delayed for 6 months because the modders are nolifing the remake.
>>739896468>>739896495
>>739895789I'm not the one kvetching about the jews :)
>>739896779Yeah you are lmao, you opened up with it you stupid schizophrenic kike
>>739873519you faggots better buy this one so I can get part 2 kino
>>739891746It’s a litmus test you fag. There is no reason at all to make them ugly. So if they did it’s a clear sign the game has been changed to be more “modern” in other place and they won’t get a dime from me.
>>739897159You wouldn't buy it anyway since you've played Gothic before and are just interested in your little culture war
>>739897016Only if there is kino to be had in 1. Otherwise the spaniards can fuck off and die.
>>739897221>the shill that spent several hours screaming at everyone that the dev team totally loves original gothic and know what they are doing accidentally admits it's not a product for gothic fansBlowing my mind here.
>>739896897Chuds are truly allergic to truth.
>>739891746It's the intent not the results. What it shows is that they will sneak dialogue about the patriarchy here and there.
>>739897496Or they could have some of the prisoners be faggots.
>>739873519>The combat looks unironically good.no it doesn't
>>739873519why does it have elder scrolls online/western mobile game tier ui design
>>739899098Because the entire fucking industry cannot into proper UI. Last one I actually liked was Endless bloody Space 2.
>>739873519Is it possible to play the original fully stable on modern computers?I have remake fatigue and would rather play the original, I never played it.
>>739899501Sure, steam and gog both have working versions. Bunch a mods too.
>>739874658picked the fuck up
>>739883385>piclol, they look like prison bussy alright
>>739885972Keep in mind this is her after prettying up for the interviewImagine the slovenly mess she looks like on the regular
I doubt this game has much of a chance, I never even heard of this remake until this very moment.
alone it should be like modded 1, good enough for pirate
>>739899501iirc the switch edition has the bestest updates atm so you could emulate it on yuzu it might be autistic but its worth
>>739889102goy responsejust play the fan remaster mod
>>739873519>The combat looks unironically good.you HAVE to be a paid shill
>>739904189
>>739875905Sounds like dogshit. Realism fags should be drawn and quartered
>>739873519Eww why is the protag so fucking ugly?
>>739904331You should see the original.
>>739904189>call someone a shill>post heavily shilled gookshitlol
>>739873580based gernig btfoing the libtard devs kek>>739873637>>739873710>>739875480seethe, cope and dilate