>Marathon: Almost 1.5M sold, with 68% on Steam, 19% on PS5, and 13% on Xbox>Last estimate was 1.2M two months ago for its first two weeks>300k copies sold in two months would be 12M in revenue, before Steam, PSN and Xbox tax. $6M a month. After platform tax (but before other taxes) that's about $4.2M a month.Assuming a burn rate of 15k and 400 people on Marathon (it's reportedly more) that's $6M a month in people costs, before building costs etc. So it's running at a loss.
>>739882789It's a success
>>739882826+5 rupees have been deposited to your account
>Alinea Analyticsaren't they wrong like 90% of the time?
>>739883125Tassi said they were right with their last estimate
>>739883165but that guy is a faggot
>>739882789343 bros laugh in bungies face
Somehow the doomposting retards will turn a 1.5m sales at $40 into a "flop"
>>739882789Doesn't matter. The devs said they would support this game for years despite playercount.
>>739882789Yes. We know. They just gambled everything on a free play week and ending support for destiny.But marathon is nothing like destiny. No one who likes destiny will play marathon.
>>739883331I like Marathon, but let's be honest here, 300k copies in 2 months for a game that cost so much to make is bad.
>>739883331it's a flop since sony lost nearly 800 million because of marathon
>>739883428Wasn't really a gamble, at least not in the way you are implying. Destiny 2's sunsetting was planned even before Marathon released.>No one who likes destiny will play marathon.What a nonsensical statement.
Alinea bases their estimates off of amount of reviews
>>739883423Doesn't matter what devs have to say, it's up to Sony now, bungie is hanging on the edge of Sony's foreskin and they can be shaken off without warning, once the acquisition payouts finalized this summer and protection from being fired ends
>>739883597>Implying Sony has foreskin
>>739883331Bro, 1.5 million sales in 2 months at $40 for a fucking Bungie game that they're currently cancelling Destiny 2 to focus on is an absolute galactic-tier flop.Fucking Pragmata sold 2 million units in a month and that's a $60 singleplayer game made to train a bunch of newbies and no-names at Capcom.
>>739882789But the Marashill told me that it sold at least 3M copies because there was no way a game that sold 1.2M in two weeks wouldn’t sell another 2M in two months, what happened?
>>739883331im sure sony is convinced with that logic, they only paid billions for bungie and this game only cost a mere 200 to 250 million to make
>>739882789wtf bros, i heard 75% of the players play on console???
>>739882789It needed to sell more than Black Ops 7 to be considered "successful" (More specifically, it's said that it had to be among the top 5 most sold games of 2025, and BO7 is #5). Sony went full retard in keeping that shit alive. Bungie is more than cooked, it's carbonized.
>>739883423Firewalk and Wildlight said the same thing. They're both dead.
>>739882789007 already sold over a million. Chuds lost
I can't believe Pragmata (an experimental IP nobody cares about with no marketing expenses) sold more than this astroturfed shit that got shilled by every single gaming journalist.
>>739882789Marathonbros we are winning
>>739882826In total has earned less than $100,000,000 dollars, converted to around 9,500,000,000 pajeet rupies, kiddo. The game's budget is estimated to have been AT LEAST $200 MILLION, most likely over $300 MILLION.It didn't earn enough to even break even. Marathon is doomed, and so is Bungie.
>>739884290Even being generous, estimating 2 million sales at the full 40 dollar price (not even taking platform cuts from Steam or physical stores into account), it didn't even make 100 million. For Bungie that's pretty fucking pathetic, and now they're shutting down Destiny 2 as well.
>>739884290And running! This is a live service game so they're paying people to continue working on it. It's never going to make a profit.
>>739883331>Somehow the doomposting retards will turn a 1.5m sales at $40 into a "flop"Yes, it is.Bungle bought: 3.7Billion (with a B)Marathon development post-Bungle buyout: 5.7Million (with an M) = $3,705,700,000 USD$40.00 * 1,500,000 = 60,000,000 (being generous and ignoring Steam's 30% cut in this calculation)Profits (ignoring 30% cut, again): -3,645,700,000 and counting.This is without adding the 300,000 sales which may or may not be on discount pricing, this is without adding Bungle and Sony's operation costs.Sony is still on the hook for 3,645,700,000 (3.6Billion [with a B]) on recouping their investment.That is a failure. NOW adding Steam's 30% cut would make that look EVEN WORSE because that 60Million (with an M) is slightly less with Steam's cut taken out of it.
>>739883331Destiny 2 was easily earning 300k in a week through Eververse at peak numbers but some Tarkov faggots wanted their own Tarkov and killed the company.
>>739884374Wait, only $40? Those calculations I made in >>739884290 were under the belief it was $70. I'll make more now:Sony (19% 100% profit): ~285,000 copies. $11,400,000 Dollars. (Oh god, even worse than I thought).Steam + Xbox (81%, 70% profit): ~1,215,000 copies. $34,020,000 Dollars (Fuck, and I thought 100 million was bad.)In total, Marathon has only earned around $45,000,000 DOLLARS? Not even a quarter of the most generous budget estimates?! THOSE RETARDS REALLY KILLED DESTINY FOR THIS?!Bungie's done for! Absolutely fucking doomed. And snoy lost over 300 million again.
>always-online DRM>copies sold Pick one
>>739883331nintendo made a doomclone in 2015 on a shoestring budget with no nintendo nostalgia attached to the new franchise and sold 5 million copies while being exclusive to a dead fucking console1.5 million from a gorillion dollar multiplat is a flop
>>739883295Marathon is still unironically better than anything 343 has made, seriously.
a literal idle game is better than maraflop:
5000 players on a weekend for a 3 month old multiplayer game. I'm sure that means it's a success...
>>739884290>It didn’t make [my schizo delusional made up numbers] so it’s a flopDo chuds really?
Is there offline PvE yet?
>A new report from Bloomberg claims that Bungie will suffer "significant" layoffs in the near future and that Destiny 3 is not actively in the works. This comes hours after Bungie confirmed that it would be winding down support for Destiny 2 after its next update, which is set to release in June. It's a huge success alright
>>739886653I think bungle would rather self immolate en-masse than do anything like that.
>>739883331This is supposed to be their main game now, doing "just fine" isn't gonna cut it
>>739886657>Destiny 2 won't be getting new content>Destiny 3 not in development>Bungie lets go of the excess workforceSeems logical.
Don't worry, Marafriends; bungle's going to go all-in on AI tools so that they can get the most economical development pipeline in the world!
>>739882789>make a niche game about a genre known for its faggotry and cheating>try to copy Tarkov of all gamesI'm pretty sure these faggots have not played more than 5 hours of Tarkov because they have promptly missed how fucking bad Tarkov is as a game. Online shenanigans and the faggots who play that game 24/7 are only making it worse.Bungie deserves to get canned.
>>739882789You wanna know what's worse? They apparently had 5 other projects in the works. They cancelled them all. Then they ended support for Destiny 2. They're all in on Marathon. If Marathon is this shit how bad were the 5 other things they cancelled?
>>739887029To add: only people who enjoy this genre are either sadomasochists or cheaters. That's not going to sell millions copies even without doing any real market research.
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>>739882789>jeet software cutting his name off the top to hide that he is marketing his tweets on /v/ daily.
>>739888094You should put LIGHTNING: BOTTLED since you're mostly describing actions
>>739888094I don't understand /v/'s obsession with posting Resetera screenshots. Why do you care what those literal faggots have to say? Someone needed to go there and save that post, and then you downloaded it with intention to repost it in the future. Why?
>>739883295343 doesn't even exist anymore. It's just a bunch of leads in charge of outsourcing all the work to slave jeets
>>739887029The only reason to play tarkov is to earn just enough to blow it on making the worst abomination of a firearm possible for sick upvotes.
>>739883295I'm unironically happy that Bungie don't make halo anymore, with how Bungie banned Russian ips from playing Destiny 2 and Marathon. Like what's even the point in doing it so late? You are not even gonna get the social cred for that, so it's all about Bungie's own political beliefs.
>>739888718Report to the front, Boris
>>739882826>Arc Raiders Budget: $75 million>Marathon Budget: $250 million>Arc Raiders sales: 16 million copies (minimum revenue at $27.99 - $447,840,000)>Marathon Sales: 1.2-2 million copies (minimum revenue at $42 assuming 1.6 million deluxe copies sold - $67,200,000)
>>739886539Do freaks really? What part of 45m < 200m didn't you understand? That money isn't enough to recoup Marathon's development costs, much less keep the server lights on? Marathon is a walking corpse, it WILL die before the year ends even if Season 2 brought more players instead of driving them away.
>>739888805Now look up how many devs worked for how many years on both, I'm too lazy
>>739888718>with how Bungie banned Russian ips from playing Destiny 2 and MarathonOnly matters on PS. Easily bypassed on PC. If you play Marathon in Europe, you'll know what I mean.>Like what's even the point in doing it so late?Most likely Sony's decision. Many other games published under them are not available in Russia, even retroactively. Like Helldivers 2, for example. Marathon even has full Russian dub.
>>739888750taking away purchases should be illegal regardless whether you like russians or not
>>739882789>meme arrows it's 100% legit
>>739885629oh hey i just downloaded that game
>>739889041Happy running.
>>739888864>Arc Raiders supposedly 60 from a quick google search>Marathon 400 from what has been reported>Average burn rate per employee for Bungie is $15k a month and we'll assume this for Embark as well even if it isn't the case because I cbb to look up their average salary>400 * $15,000 = $6,000,000 a month spent on wages for Marathon>60 * $15,000 = $900,000 a month spent on wages for Arc Raiders
>>739889076lmaoooooooI really hope the studio gets shut down over this shit
The worst thing about Marathon is that its release turned everyone into an armchair economist, ruining video game discussion for a so far undetermined period.
>>739885335>Splatoo>Doom cloneAre you fucking MENTAL?!
>>739889113It gets better anon.>season releases every 3 months>this means in the time between releases they have spent around $18 million on wages>the most guaranteed revenue source is the battle passes which cost $10>even if 1 million of them were sold that would only make up $10 million of the $18 million they spent the previous season>this means cosmetics then need to make up for $8 million to break even>but this is a company that needs to turn a profit so they need MORE than $8 million from the cosmetics at that pointThe game has been in the red since it released and its hole just keeps getting deeper.
>>739889061I just finished Crusaders quest: Hero town and steam offered me that, hopefully it's just as good
>>739889041it's fun and the sprites are good. I started with the ranger then got priest for healing. third will be knight probably for the classic melee/ranged/healer trio.
>>739888094>that pic lmfao
>>739889237Anon world view just shattered when confronted with the hard truth
>>739889262>>season releases every 3 monthsHow does this factor into the rest of your post? It has been 3 months since the game's release regardless of season frequency.
>>739883331Do you know what the definition of flop is?
>>739889558Its about how much they are spending vs how much they can possibly make. They already didn't make much at launch, and now they are spending more than they can possibly make from the game.
>>739889558It means those developers are still chained to the game, spending that much money on making more seasons that make no return, instead of either being laid off or working on something else that could bring a profit.
>>739889693I know Marathon is not one, Sony just reported they are on their most profitable year ever, they have the money to support it because they know a bad start doesn’t mean shitIt’s a Marathon not a sprint
>>739889693Of course I know the /v/ definition of flop, it's any massively successful game that doesn't follow 1750s politics
>>739888094I've a more important question: what can we as chartwatchers do to help?
>>739888440>Why do you care what those literal faggots have to say?They are lolcows. We watch what they say to laugh at them or shitpost for ragebait
>>739889868They will turn it around anytime soon! BUY BUY BUY WE'RE GOING TO THE MOON, 1 MILLION PLAYERS IN TWO WEEKS
>>739882789>the lukewarm bond game sold marathon's numbers in 17 hoursdamn marathon really was a flop
>>739889963Every eye on the Steamdb is a physic energy attack toward Bungie and the ones who suck them off.
>>739889868>Sony just reported they are on their most profitable year everBecause of Marathon?
>>739889861>>739889864>and now they are spending more than they can possibly make from the game.Not really. Most of season 2 content was most likely finished or close to finished before the release. The whole idea behind continuing is trying to salvage the game. There is clearly interest in Marathon, Bungie just (well, "just") need to remove the rough edges to improve player retention.
Who keeps making these marathon threads
Uuuuuh, I'm sorry hun but I'll keep on enjoying marathon and no amount of sweat'n'semen smelling doom and chart posting will change this simple fact
>>739890210lol trans game
>>739890237rent free. you're the one thinking about botched penis all day long, get medical attention
>>739890095The thing is anon even if they developed season 2 in advance they still spend $18 million over the course of 3 months. Now you could also look at this around the other way as well that Season 2 would need to make at least $18 million during its 3 month period to break even. Again even if they sold 1 million reward passes at $10 each that would only cover $10 million, leaving $8 million exclusively to cosmetics or the occasional game sale. But they will want to turn a profit so they need to sell more than $18 million worth of stuff over a season's 3 month period.
>>739889991Seems pretty stable for meYou’ve been saying it will hit sub 10k for weeks and it hasn’t happened ;)
>>739890297The actual thing though is that Sony has effectively infinite money from movies and shit, so they can sustain these losses as long as they're willing to
>announce final patch for destiny 2>on the same week as free play season 2 marathoon >destiny 2 instantly gets 2x players>not even patch day yetwomp womp
>>739884972>THOSE RETARDS REALLY KILLED DESTINY FOR THIS?!Yeah they're not long for this world. Sony should consider rethinking their strategy if they keep wasting billions on retards who can't make a single good MP game (anymore).
>>739890095It's a great sign when they are removing content from the game before it was even launched>There's clearly interest in marathonYeah anon, i'm sure the game that doesn't even have 10k people playing and needs to make 20m a month to break even has a lot of interest.
>>739883331This isn't Pragmata that was also a sort of on-boarding project for new devs and a testing ground for the engine. This was a game that needed to sell for the studio to survive.
>>739890297Thank god we have sony's shareholders insight directly posted daily, 24h a day on this god forsaken board.Who care about video games when we can just talk asset value, balance-sheets and sunk cost fallacy
>sweatmaxxing the game>fugly aesthetics>SEASONAL WIPES>40 bucksSeriously what was Bungie thinking, wouldn't it be better if they just made Destiny extraction shooter version ?
>>739890367No-one, absolutely no-one has infinite money. This is a lefty illusion to argue against boycotts.You think Bezos is currently not shitting bricks over losing over one billion usd on a vanity project to be lefty Elon Musk?There is no company on earth that shrugs off losses, even if they never ever admit it to the public (Why would they anyway, to make their stocks lose even less value?) But I guarantee you by next quarterly financial report a lot of people will be posting their resumes on facebook hoping for a job.
>>739890417Why does it matter?
>>739890367>Sony has effectively infinite money from movies and shitLmao, this isn't the 90's anymore anon, they ate concord losses and flipped the fuck out.
>>739890367That sounds like a little bit of cope. Sony are retarded, but they aren't going to let it ride for long. They shut down stuff all the time.>>739890459No problem.
>>739890367About that…
why not end development on maraflop and go all in on destiny 3 or a halo clone, even if you cant call it halo.
>>739890465I don't know where the hardcore game idea came from. This is one of the most forgiving extraction shooter on the market, only second to Arc Raiders
>>739890335>Last 30 days>8490uh oh
>>739882789This game will either get a PvE mode that eventually outshines the PvP mode or it will continue to die a slow death. People just don't have the energy to grind in-game currency to make a decent loadout, endure 15 minute queues to get shot in the back by an unemployed xXxVegeta420SephirothxXx who has nothing to do but play Marathon all day, then get flashed by a thousand cybernigger skins at the premium store
>>739890557Sony doesn't want to pay them for 5 years of development to make a Destiny 3 while they have no revenue at all.
>>739890441>It's a great sign when they are removing content from the game before it was even launchedDisingenuous statement.>the game that doesn't even have 10k people playingDaily peaks are still above 10k, and that's people playing at the same time. I know it's convenient for your rhetoric to forget what CCU actually means, but let's be real.
>>739890557Destiny was the Halo clone
>>739890637Considering they shot down all D3 pitches while D2 was making money they don't seem to want to make D3 at all.
>>739890640Anon you literally said that they made season 2 content before launch, that's the definition of cutting content to sell you later, it's not disingenous, it's factually accurate.>Daily peaks are above 10k>>739889991Last 30 days: 8.5k
>>739890627>then get flashed by a thousand cybernigger skins at the premium storeThe skins aren't even good in this game, I dont know what world they think they can make money on them. 99% are just shitty recolors.
>>739883125yes but one shill was touting them as the truth and now even they say marathon flopped bigly so its funny
>>739890786>cutting contentIt's not "cutting content", it's "thinking ahead". This way, they don't have to scramble to finish next season's content in 3 months.>to sell you laterSeasons are free.>Last 30 days: 8.5kThat's average, retard. It literally says that.
Game's in a bad state rn, Sony might make Bungie get good at doing their job as soon as they execute all 800 employees and execs in there.
>>739890637>Sony doesn't want to pay them for 5 years of development to make a Destiny 3 while they have no revenue at all.lol they have no revenue at all even with maraflop. its losing more money than it earns.
>>739890992>Removing content that's already been made to release later is not cutting contentlol, i'm sure a lot of thinking ahead went into that scam, which is a staple of AAA for the last decade.>Seasons are freeHow much does the season battle pass costs anon?inb4 it doesn't count because it has a freeee version>That's the averageYes, that's the metric we sane people use anon
>>739890465Seasonal wipes really aren't that bad. It seems bad on paper, but since the game is built around it, it feels fine. I'm not afraid of losing my equipment now and I'm looking forward to going through the updated progression.>>739890790This used to be true. They are getting better now, pic related. Although it's still bizarre to me that they thought they could get away with what was there originally.
Announce the fucking Direct already I'm so sick of the no info
>>739891256Imagine buying skins for a first person game where you only see your hands. Mental illness.
>>739890542and Marathon's losses are jsut as bad, if not worse. They're gonna gut Ryan and Hulst like fishes at this rate.
>>739889489>>739885335I've seen you with this opinion a few times and I've always wanted to ask, what makes splatoon more "DOOM'like than "Quake"like? I just want to understand your position.
>>739891250>How much does the season battle pass costs anon?Genuinely no idea. I never bought it. I thought you just get access to the other half of it for if you have the deluxe version of the game (which I also don't have), but maybe it works only for 1 season's battle pass?
>>739891345>If I don't see it, it doesn't exist
>>739886653no, fist they'll try a lite-PvE focused mode and then later experiment with purely PvE but it's team based cooperative objectives and not the normal exctraction shooter you play in pvp
>>739891458>Oh boy, I can’t wait to pay for a skin that I’ll only see in the menu
Some anons are too young to remember the days of >In-disk DLCThen>Day one DLCand finally now>Seasonal content
>>739891689You also see yourself when you are downed.
>>739891629>fist they'll try a lite-PvE focused modeStarting at the same as season 2, btw. Excellent for new players who might be afraid of PvP (and reasonably so because I'll be there with my 180 hours of experience, at the same level as them).
>>739883331>Leftists don't know numbers, and that's somehow is our faultChuds win again
>>739883331You need to grow a brain and understand what those numbers actually mean, game dev costs more than it used to, 20 years ago a million copies went a LOT further because the $ was stronger, now it's a lot weaker and the "budgets" keep inflating and it's also costing tax payer money now$40 a million times just ain't going to work anymore unless you're a AA or an indie developer
>>739890510>why does it matter than more people go back to play a 15yo game than the new product?r/midwit
>>739892434It's a popular game getting its last update. Obviously people will play it again.
>>739891986>3days to go>still haven't explained what it isI don't have very high hopes.
>>739890557>why not end development on maraflopthe reason might be because it's the company riding on what is essentially a sinking ship because they don't have enough money or time to build another boat, so they're just gonna hold it out until they drown
>>739888440they are heavily connected to the industry, sadly enough. so what they say and think actually is very important for the future of videogames.
Season 2 will fix everything. Haven't you read the what the devs said? I can't wait until chuds rope when the f2p week gets 100k players and a whole new playerbase
>game dies thanks to the fat fuck taxrly mks u tink uh?
>>739882789>The truth could be higher or lowerWhat the fuck, then why post this kinda of info?
>>739892515They've been doing daily information releases. 3 days ago was the cinematic trailer. 2 days ago was the developer insight video + blogpost. Yesterday was the blogpost about combat balance and equipment changes. Maybe info about the new mode will come today or tomorrow.
>>739883331Sony considers a game selling 800k in a month a flop. Keep in mind that these games were ports so they more than made up their money.
>>739885335>DoomcloneDude, how old are you? I am pushing 40 and it's been a long ass time since I last heard people calling shooters as a Doomclone.
>>739882789Why don't companies just adopt the Nintendo strategy? They make games with much lower budget that sell literally as much
>>739885629>6k players on Saturday afternoonjfc that is beyond pitiful
>>739892652If only the shells looked like that.
>>739890570even the most forgiving extraction shooters will be polarizingit doesn't matter how lenient it actually is. by and large most people hate being forced to lose their itemsin most other games when you lose, you either A) don't actually lose anything you've gained prior. this covers standard pvp games and singleplayer games with save/load statesB) are forced to just start over from scratch entirely. co-op games, roguelitesextraction games not only force you to lose your hard earned loot and continue playing without any way of going back, but you lose that loot to other playersand the catch is that to get to a point in the game where your losses are almost totally negligible, you have to put in a ton of hours alreadythe softer players will get filtered nigh immediately and stop playing
>>739892963She comes with unorthodox equipment.
>>739882789Huge success, blastbros.
reminder highguard had a higher peak than marathon
>>739891986how do you go from posting news on forums, to being on reddit. Holy shit Bungie fell off
>>739893657It was free. Marathon's free server slam had a higher peak than Highguard.
>>739893761Highguard was made by a small indie studio. Marathon is (soon to be "was") made by Bungie
>>739893831Slick goalpost move.
>>739891986>now available from the start of Season 2That's a change, because they only said the 'PVE with light PVP' mode was going to be starting in the middle of the month. I guess they brought it forward in a panic after seeing the outpouring of Destiny 2 support in a desperate bid to attract those players. It won't work
>>739893761NTA, but you can make the argument that akshually, Highguard still had higher numbers as a commercially available product, since Marathon's server slam was a limited version of the full game and was a separate game on Steam.If the upcoming free to play week beats Highguard's peak, then you will be totally correct.
>>739882826I know the bar is low, but it's still better than concord 1.Gradual improvement is always a success.
>>739896013>they only said the 'PVE with light PVP' mode was going to be starting in the middle of the monthNot true. They've been consistent about this.
>>739896345'Beginning of the season' doesn't necessarily mean 'from day one,' it could be within June, which is what I thought I read or heard elsewhere. The 'light PVP' still means 'chance to get raped by a sweat,' so I'll be interested to see what the gameplay looks like in practice. I doubt Bungie is (or can) add something like ABMM like Embark did with Arc to filter the player types.
>>739896613I don't think there should be aggression based matchmaking. It's better if cooperation is a rare luxury instead of something expected.
>>739896907>cooperation should be a rare luxuryThis is one of the many reasons Marathon will fail as a product because this mindset can only work when you don't spend a quarter of a billion on your game.
>>739892949According to them, Steam is the biggest platform too. Now imagine those numbers split in skill/level groups and geographic areas.
>>739897120I don't need to imagine, I feel this every time I go to Cryo.
>>739897223Isn't Cryo just a BDSM rape dungeon at this point with the geared out premade teams running a train on everyone else?
>>739897120There's no way the game stays up a year with these kind of numbers. Sony would be flushing money down the toilet.
>>739897306Yeah, but it's okay because almost only sweats remain. I'm not one of them, I'm not even level 100, but my team mates usually are so fun can still be had. I even extracted yesterday. I'm hoping to get the vault 2 subroutine before the season ends since I have a key for it.
>>739882789
>>739883449>they didn't
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA OH NO NO NO OH NO NO NO NO WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE THE PLAYER COUNTSAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHALOOK AT THEIR DIPHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>739889868>>739890992>>739883331I know it's you in all 3. In 2 months, Marathon has earned 45 million dollars.Marathon's development budget alone is estimated to be over 200 million dollars. And that's without counting server costs, the legal expenses of the plagiarism case and further expenses done during the game's months-long delay.To put it bluntly, Bungie is in the red because 45 Million+ is less than 200+ Million. You're terrible at math.
>necro-bumpingrange-ban india
>>739889991I love how the two replies to you mention 10,000 players.As if Bungle doesn't immediately bot it at 6-11PM EST when it's nearly there. EVERY. FUCKING. TIME. it's 11,050 players/closer to hitting 10,000 max 24-hours CCU, it suddenly skyrockets to 11,500.It's going to be REAL interesting on Tuesday when the Bungle boards stocks are able to be divested on what the count is then.
>>739897680This must be my favorite part about arguing on /v/.>inb4 "you can mark/unmark posts as yours"Oh, I know. That's exactly why it's my favorite.
>>739885629>free game>lower all-time peakYup Marabros... the haters got us. It's over.
>>739887105Well, Concord was a real game at one point.
The playerbase is so small that if 2 squads of 3 people queue at the same time on the same region, they are guaranteed to be put into the same match.
>>739897820Don't dodge the words.Marathon is going to die, and Bungie will be eaten by Snoy. I hope it has the same chain effect Concord did and all their indev live service slop gets shitcanned.
stop bullying the fifth most popular extraction shooter okay? just because it had 250m when everyone else was less than 100m does not give you the right to bully bungie!
>>739897709>They HAVE to be botting the player count
>>739882826blast status? through the roof
>>739883331for a AA or indie game that's a big hitfor a 10 digit budget game? not good
>>739890786>Last 30 days: 8,5kBait, or smartest Marathon hater? Call it.
>>739890584Can you show an image of the game peaking below 10k? I'm very curious, since you guys have never been wrong so far.
>>739882789Isnt marathon free to play this month?
>>739898352for a short while
>>739891689>Oh boy, I can't wait to pay for a skin that I'll only see in the menu
>>739898352For a week, starting Tuesday. Expect review bombing from dilating Destiny fans.
>>739898214NTA, but the 8.5k is the average player count over the last month, and it's a dismal number.Marathon hasn't yet had a daily Steam CCU peak below 10k, but it got within 300-400 players of it once. But this is also your reminder that the shills have been walked back from 40k/30k/20k peaks down to 10k because all the game has done is lost players since it launched, lmao>>739898506There will be some review bombing, but I expect cheaters fucking everyone up will be a far bigger problem.
>>739882789Bungie is the epitome of MODERN GAME DEV degeneration and I cannot wait for Sony to gut the studio down to a name only and put them to work developing assets for The Last of Us spin-offs.
>>739898579anytime I see a game company make statements like this I just want them to shut up and make a game
>>739898648Jamie, post the picture of the Destiny community manager saying they (Bungie) will never stop talking about these politicized topics.
>>739898565>but I expect cheaters fucking everyone up will be a far bigger problemNah, that's dumb.
>>739898648They can't help it. Their egos get ahead of their common sense. Every time.
>>739897709>I'm wrong about this, so it MUST be botted.Do hatersissies really? It's okay, you are wrong, we forgive you.
why are people posting this stupid shit? can't they just make normal threads?
>>739898698And then post the picture of Bungie removing the pronouns in their latest video about Marathon.
[Tragic News]Local anon has an anal prolapse: >>739898753
Kaz never would have let this shit fly. He'd have these gaijin chained to their desks until they make a proper Sony movie game instead of this weird unmarketable slop.
>>739898716Why wouldn't it happen? If the game is F2P, anyone can make a Steam account to try it, and I can't think of any competitive F2P multiplayer game that doesn't have a cheating problem. Hell, Marathon has had such a problem with cheaters the devs have had to make a few official posts about it.>>739898753IIRC, it's a meme that started in Japanese twitter that leaked onto /v/.>>739898771I thought that pic was just a shitpost at first, but it just goes to show you how completely make or break the situation is. When Bungie has to start dropping their virtue signalling bullshit, it means their backs are against the wall.
>>739898506Destiny fans about to have an enormous period when they realise that free week reviews don't count into the score. All people will see on the review charts is some absolute clittyleaking derangement wave on June 2nd (if free reviews even appear there).
ill play it more if they just add offline pve
>>739898931The best way Destiny fans can embarrass Marathon is to make sure Destiny 2 has a higher player count during its big farewell patch than Marathon does at any point during Marathon's free week.
>>739898960>pveHalfway through the season>offlinelol
it is literal insanity to go all in on maraflop, a literal dead game, instead of making a new destiny/halo type game.
Hello fellow blast havers. The people who don't even play games told me it's DOA and that there will be no season 2. Status report?
>literally ban all your old fans from the Halo days from your community website to turn it into shitty Marathon forums in 2013>become a studio filled with purple haired trannies who worship at the cock of lefty ideology>make nothing but garbage for over a decade getting by solely on your studio name alone>finally the rent comes dueThe studio won't be shut down, but there will be a "restructuring" where a whole lot of people are gonna lose those cushy jobs. I hope their webmaster goes first for being such a massive faggot.
>>739899030The only people who trotted out the 'dead in two weeks' meme are GCJ and resetera retards who post in bad faith to allow people like you to make the bullshit posts you're making now./v/ predicted Marathon would flop, which it has. /v/ also predicted it might kill Bungie, which it very well could.
>>739898893>and I can't think of any competitive F2P multiplayer game that doesn't have a cheating problemI play Deadlock and the amount of time I've encountered cheaters is miniscule. It's still a problem since those few matches against them were miserable, but I think that you are massively overblowing the cheater risk for the free week.
>>739898998>I have no neovagina but I must dilateDestiny fans, probably
>>739899127>mfw I read this EXACT same reply on another thread yesterdayDesperate 4cuckcacas... is it bleak?
>>739899159If Bungie hadn't already made a few posts about what they're doing to combat the cheater problem in Marathon, I might agree with you. But extraction PVP is one of those game types where cheating is incentivized, so I'm predicting it's going to be bad. (Especially in the Asia regions where the Chinese players almost always have one cheater in their three man to help carry them.)>>739899181anon, I have no idea why you're so fixated on trannies and their repulsive anatomies.
>>739882789so what happens if their player count barely changes next week? how will the journos and blast havers move the goalposts to explain it away?
>>7398827891 look at that image is enough to convince me to stay the fuck away from this game.
>>739893831Highguard was a AAA budge. About 100m. >>739890557That is a GREAT question. I'm sure at least one of the 3 other unaccounted for ptiches was literally halo, and 1 was D3. Instead we have jack shit. They had literally years to move this forward.
>>739899293>tourist makes bad faith claim>anon calls him out>tourist recoils 'I've been caught'>tourist tries again the next day>same resultIt's almost as if you don't belong here.>>739899327If the f2p week can't beat 25k CCU, I think Marathon is 100% dead by the end of the year. If it gets somewhere between 50k and 100k as a one time peak, it will probably continue bleeding and might live into next year. But the only thing that matters is how many people stick around after the f2p week ends, because that means they bought the game (or came back to it after buying it earlier).
>>739899327The journalists have already tipped their hand. They will blame a concentrated hate campaign that killed a brilliant game, and call for more strict political purges.
>>739884072>no marketing expensesif you ignore ad slots in every industry event, sure
>>739899327>It’s SummerGameFest chud, we will play next next week
marathon is LITERALLY dead.why not abandon it and go all in on not-Halo. Just make a game about a guy in green armor and call him captain king.
>>739900435
>>739900435>a guy in green armor and call him captain kingjej
>>739900510A major first party title from Sony is being beaten by>Cities: Skylines>Viki3>MapleStory>DRG>whatever the fuck YoloMouse isgrim doesn't even begin to describe it, especially since it's a Saturday
>>739900510>171Impressively pathetic
>>739899558I would never heard of it if it wasn't for cunnykeks.
>>739900510>Destiny 2, a game that is getting no further content updates making it effectively dead, is getting over twice the players as Marathonlollmao
>>739900435Realistically I think Marathon has maybe 6 months to turn it around or Bungie probably puts Marathon on maintenance mode and starts working on D3. Marathon would've been fine as a small, low budget experimental release but it clearly ballooned to a ridiculous investment.
>>739882789>Destiny 2 died for this turdahahahahahahahahah
>>739902518>Bungie starts working on D3
>>739902563I don't think they've been working on D3 yet. Truthfully I think they were full in on Marathon being a success because historically, all of Bungie's releases have been financially successful. Marathon is the first Bungie release where its a massive financial failure.
>>739902635Anon, Bungie pitched D3 to Sony repeatedly, going back probably a year, and Sony told them no.There is no D3. There is never going to be a D3. Not unless Sony does a crazy 180, closes Marathon and fires the Marathon team instead of the Destiny team, then has them start making D3.
>>739902701I don't think it made sense for Bungie to begin work on Destiny 3 with Marathon so close to release. I think it was fair for Sony to tell Bungie to hold back until Marathon launched. And now Marathon launched, and its a flop. I think its a different ballgame now, especially when Bungie's main valuable asset as a company is obviously Destiny at this point. If the final D2 update here is a huge success I just don't see how Sony can ignore D3 anymore. What else would Bungie work on?
>>739902701>has them start making D3In 5 or 6 years from now, maybe Bungie could actually release a semi-popular game again.Fucking grim
>>739902916I actually think it would likely only take a few years to make a base D3 game. Lore and worldbuilding is the most time consuming part of a game like Destiny, and they've already got that down for the most part. Mind you there was only 3 years between D1 and D2. The thing with D3 is they would likely design it to be evergreen, built from the ground up to be serviceable and upgradable for years to come, closer to Warframe or WoW. Part of the reason sunsetting was required in D2 is because D2 fundamentally was not built to have that much content strapped to it.
>>739902874Bungie had 1500 people when Sony bought them back in 2022, now they've done two big layoffs and have gone down to about half of that with 800 people left. Half of those are on Marathon right now, and half are on Destiny.When Bungie was pitching D3, it was right around The Final Shape being done. Sony told them no. Then, when Renegades came out (the Star Wars DLC) and flopped, Bungie tried again, and Sony told them no. (This was in the stuff leaked from Paul Tassi, I think.)Sony doesn't want to spend half a billion (the assumed cost to make D3) right now, especially since they've had so many other flops on their hands. (Concord, Marathon, Saros, probably FairGame$ and the Horizon Hunter Gathering game that's coming up)>what else would Bungie work onNothing, which is why Jason Schrier posted that article about major layoffs coming to Bungie soon, and most people assume it's the entire Destiny team getting let go.>>739902916It would probably be even longer than that since they would have to spend a lot of time fixing their shitty Tiger engine to avoid the content vaulting problems Destiny 2 had. Even switching to Unreal would require a lot of time to retrain everyone.
>>739903124I mean I agree with Bungie downsizing but I don't think you get the point. Marathon isn't going to make Sony any money either. So I think its either Sony shuts down Bungie entirely (which won't happen, too large of a studio) or they put them to work on a new game. And Destiny is basically their own successful IP that is guaranteed to be a cash cow.
>>739903375>Bungie is too large to shut downSays who? Remember, Sony already closed two other studios this year.>Destiny is a cash cowIt doesn't matter if the game makes you $5m if the cost of making the content is $6m or more, that's been Bungie's problem since Destiny 1. They're just too expensive.>Marathon isn't going to make Sony any moneyYes, and everyone who isn't a deranged shill knew this from the moment it was announced.My personal guess is this>Marathon gets to limp along, probably until the end of the year, because whatever money it wastes is better than suffering the embarrassment of having another high profile live service game flop really fast>90% of Destiny devs get laid off this summer>10% of remaining Destiny devs just exist to work with outsource companies in China, India, and elsewhere to make a cheaper Destiny 3, but it will end up being Temu type shit that's inferior to the older games>Marathon staff get 90% laid off when Sony closes the game, with some going to Destiny and some going to other Sony studios>Bungie goes from 800 people down to less than 75 by this time next yearI think there's also a chance Sony just closes Bungie completely and licenses the Destiny IP to other companies like they did with the mobile game in China.
>>739903656Imagine if Destiny 3 got into Arrowheads hands, the pure seethe from bungiefags would be at astronomical levels
>>739882789>>739882826we shouldn't be looking at dollar figures, the radius of the blasts people are having is the real metric here
>>739903881I don't think Arrowhead could do it, desu. Their kind of content is great for moment to moment gameplay, but stuff like lore, raids, strikes, and the PVE content that made Destiny popular isn't their forte.The best thing that could happen with Destiny is an E33 situation where some indie devs maybe with a little nepo money like the E33 ones had make a smaller scale, but soulful version that can grow and expand into the larger 'full' Destiny like D2 was. The key thing is them being a small team, not having a corporate overlord forcing woke shit or retarded crap like mandatory PSN accounts, and them being able to make a game and not a product.
>>7398979646-man kings, they’re just jealous they don’t have friends
>>739900987DRG at several points had a higher playercount than HD2. So this is the 2nd game it's happening to.
>>739904007This. So much this. And also the amount of chuds owned and black women empowered
>>739900435Silence Bungie and Sony. Literal nophono on an imageboard site has a better verdict on Marathon.
>>739905986And that anon exhibited better business sense than an army of Sony MBAs and marketers. Crazy, huh?
Im really curious what the console experience is like rn. maratroon floats between 4-8k players at most hours. having played games like that, you start to see the same names fairly often. With steam being the majority of the purchases, are console players having long queues, playing with the same people over and over again?I cant imagine releasing a GaaS game that isnt absolutely fucking stellar in a time when people are becoming exhausted of the genre as a whole. 200m for this is just absolutely retarded. I would pay a lot of money to have a live feed of bungie hq and see the dread day in and out
>>739882789>25% growthHow can you call it growth when its constantly bleeding players?
>>739883331>sony spends 4 billion dollars getting bungie and developing marathroon >1.5 million sales and killing destiny 2 is totally not a sign of failure
>>739883295HALO STUDIOS are actually below Bungie
>>739884072Marathon, 007, and Pragmata were all in development for like 6+ years and revealed around the same time and have all sold the same while costing roughly the same to develop and released around the same period. It's pretty funny when you think about it
>>739883331Blast having : Off
>>739906796they silently changed the matchmaking parameters a few weeks ago, now level 10 shitters can get thrown into games with level 200+ sweats. Matches can start without full lobbies now, too. So I don't think queue times are as much of an issue as they used to be.
>>739899337Imagine being that susceptible to propaganda
>>739897680add to the red numbers what sony spent buying bungie, which is 3.6 BILLION dollars
>>739899337I really don't get why journos keep using that particular frame of the cinematic.
The fact that it lost more than half its players, dropping from 88k to 11k, in two months suggests that the game's concept isn't the best, and something is clearly going wrong, whereas other games, like Arc Raiders, have maintained their player base of over 200k+ for many months
>>739884072>astroturf shit shill shit astroturfed journalist shitEnormous clitty leak dear anoncaca
>>739882826Yes.A successful failure.
>>739884721Bungie, famously known for their only game ever, Marathon (2026).
>>739883905>Marathon launches>Bungie confirms long-term support>"but Concord and Highguard">3 months pass>Bungie reaffirms long-term support>"but Concord..."
>>739908546Shill-kun, you left out some important points:>3 months pass>Sony announces another $500m impairment loss against Bungie>Sony forces Bungie to kill their other IP>Marathon is doing so bad they're doing a F2P *week*It also doesn't change the fact that both Concord and Highguard had roadmaps that were never fulfilled, and the presence of the roadmap was no guarantee of the game sticking around.
>>739908257I think that the main problem is progression. It's really grindy, it's hard to make progress. It's also hard to learn since the game explains jack shit. You can't even test a weapon before risking losing it.
>>739908546>it's not a flop! It's just slowly dying over the course of 3 months! 100k players for season 2!!!!!!!!steamcharts really mindbroke you, kek
>>739908680>>Sony forces Bungie to kill their other IPThis was planned before Marathon even launched.
>>739908724>DOA>dies in a month>dies slowly [WE ARE HERE]>game still onlinePlease try to cope with that without a clitty leak.
>>739908680Famously, no successful game has ever done free weeks, let alone a free weekend.Or at least that would be my view if I never played games. Hm...
holy shit, destiny is mogging it too. just make destiny 3.
>>739908760Yeah, but remember that Marathon was supposed to launch last September and had been reviewed so poorly with internal playtests (even with influencers) and had the big art scandal, so Sony delayed it. Destiny 2 doing bad with the shitty Star Wars DLC didn't help, but Sony also decided not to do D3 back then, too. Sony backed the wrong horse, simple as.>>739908857>clittyclittyclittyYou're a one-note shill with an odd troon fixation. Marathon will always be a flop because it's $400m in the red at least with no signs of coming out.>>739908923Yeah, Marathon is just so successful right now they wanted to share it with everyone. I'm sure that's why they're doing a free week, you mongoloid.
>>739908857lol troon is mad
Remember when Maratroons said that their shitty dead game would kill Arc Raiders and Tarkov? I wonder how many of them jumped off a bridge since then
>>739908984>Yeah, Marathon is just so successful right now they wanted to share it with everyone. I'm sure that's why they're doing a free week
>>739908984Don't get your panties in a twist chud, your Concord 3 cope is done for, Marathon won
>>739909174Yeah, definitely. >>739908941
>>739909125SAAAAAAAAAAARWHY WON'T YOU BUY MARATHON IT IS A GAME FOR CHADS SAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>739909203See>>739908857Keep moving those goalposts, your tears are delicious
>>739897306Not really desu. Plus at end of season people get sloppy. I’m by no means a major sweat but I have been clearing raids.That’s a good element about the server wipe I think people forget about. People can play a lot more fast and loose.
>>739909097It killed Destiny 2 tho
>>739909221Mad?
I like how the big win for marathonbros is that the playercount stabilized...at 10k (game had a $300 million budget btw)
>>739909272It flopped on arrival, which is what /v/ predicted. The 'shuts down in a month' discourse is from shitposters (who you could pick out if you weren't a tourist) or gcj/resetra troons trying to post in bad faith.But it flopped, and these threads have been great, and I look forward to more of them when the F2P next week fails to move the needle.>>739909408>stabilized at 10kActually, it's still losing players week to week if you look at the wider trends, lmao
>>739909203>Concord 3 is when 8k CCUThose goalposts grew wings anon... wings.
>>739909358Yes, stay mad troon, that's all you can do after allywnbaw
>>739883331It cost 500M to make, and sony bought the studio for 3.6B...
>>739882789So what else is left for Bungie to try reviving Marathon?>More often F2P weekends>Free with PS+ subscription>F2P all the time>Switch port lol
>>739909478Marathon is on track for Concord 3, but the status won't be cemented until Marathon either goes EOL or Sony closes Bungie. It's possible that Fairgames comes out, flops, and goes EOL first, and then the question of which is Concord 3 becomes debatable.
>>739909446>it's still losing playerDon't look at the steamcharts right now, you might cry from how wrong you are right now
SORRY FOR MARATHONINGhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng_t5D8tVvM
>>739909567I just checked the chart (on Flopathon, which also pulls Marathon's chart data from Steam's API), and the line is actually looking worse than it did last I checked.Thanks for suggesting I share it with the thread, shillbro.
>>739909446>>739909408>Marabros are stuck with updates like season 2, new PvE mode, and tons of improvements>anon jerks off on 4cuck threads because the game is underperforming.It's clear who's the winner here.
>>739909671nigga its taken like 6 months to get any "updates" at all and that shit was already fucking made before release lmao
>>739909516Just continuing to release content. You can call it unlikely, sure, but No Man’s Sky was able to turn things around and foster a pretty consistent playerbase after a while. There’s no bible verse that says Marathon is unable to reproduce that phenomenon.Yeah, it’s not great odds, Sony may be inclined to kill the experiment. But maybe not. I do think the product itself is really sound and that a larger playerbase is possible.
>>739909671But I thought you were enjoying the hardcore niche experience of ruthless Marathon’s gameplayWhy are you happy that it’ll now a become PvE hugbox?
>>739888440Because you dont understand how much it hurts those narcsissitic fucks when you openly mock them and deny them even the pleasure of negative attention by going on their site and shitting on them. No you do it where they have zero control so they cant save face. It breaks them. Bad.
Every fucking time I have to see that stupid thing with the lips. What the fuck is this character
>>739909727The sad reality is that Marathon would have been totally fine with these player numbers if they hadn't spent $300 million or more on it. If this was a game with a $50m budget, it would have been fine and Marathon could easily be a Tarkov or Hunt that hangs around for years.
>>739909714>6 months>Marathon released in MarchDoes India not have calendars?
Bungie deserves to suffer for abandoning Halo.
>>739909758 How can anyone be upset at more options? It’s a new mode - it’s not replacing the OG PvP.And if it attracts more players and eases them into the PvP, even better.
>>739909758>hardcore niche experienceNot anymore, dads of Marathon demanded exclusive content from Sony so now Bungie has to release PvE only mode just for them
>>739909727>>739909807here's the thingwhy would I play this extraction shooter when every other extraction shooter on the market does something better than marathonmarathon has no spark that makes it unique among those other shooters. the closest thing it has is its hideous artstlye, which isn't even gameplay related anyway (aside from how it negatively impacts the UI).since there is nothing here that draws players from an already niche group towards it, its destined to flounder.
>>739909856They didn't abandon it. They made a Faustian deal with Microsoft to sell the IP to them in exchange for buying their independence.
>>739909856Bungie deserves to suffer for abandoning Destiny 2
>>739909951The only appeal Marathon has that I can see is>unique art style>you've gotten too bored playing the other extraction games and want something new>maybe you're a grandpa who played the original Marathons and likes the franchise>you have $40 and the closest source of fent costs $45Literally just those.
>>739909776He's a medic. They were struggling with his design right up until the end, left pic is how he looked in the short film shortly before the game got delayed. He barely has any cosmetic skins because his design was finalized at the last second. This is what happens when you prioritize a character's race over everything else.
>>739882789Okay but it outlived Condord and Highguard so it's a success, we owned the chuds!
>>739909768But do they know that you talk shit about them if they don't see it?
>>739910035>>unique art styleHardly. It's The Designers' Republic as seen by faggots without an understanding of colour theory- or maybe it's entirely purposeful so that the rape the players endure is not just the PVP full of cheaters but the assault on the eyes, too.
>>739909951No other extraction shooter does movement like Marathon. No other extraction shooter has lore like Marathon. I could go on but to say Marathon has no unique features is sillier than trolling.That’s not to say these features are good or bad. That’s subjective. Same with your take on the art style, totally subjective. Personally I love the sci-fi elements of a 3d-printed architecture - so much better than Unreal Engine “realism”. Add to that the UI in game is great at reflecting weather effects, fog, and now darkness.
>>739910132Those both look terrible, too. I'm astonished. Also what the FUCK is that gun on the right?
>>739884072>I can't believe Pragmata (an experimental IP nobody cares about with no marketing expenses) sold more than this astroturfed shit that got shilled by every single gaming journalist.love to see woke shit flop (including 007).
>>739910315They are always lurking around, sometimes some of them even post
>>739910327the thing is that the art style is the number one reason I've heard from people as to why they didn't try the game. so it actually might be the biggest thing preventing this game from going big.also given how the lore is essentially just text logs I can't really see it as a big selling point
>>739910394that's not a gun it's a medic bot
>>739910565The art style is instantly divisive and is one of the most love it or hate it things i've seen in AAA games.Probably shouldn't bet the future of your goddamn company on a weird art style that's more at home in an indie game, huh bungie??
>>739910394if you actually meant the left, Bungle straight-up stole the Coachman from Starfield.
>>739888440It makes us happy and them unhappy. Also spreads publicity about them to those that don't know.They're a leftist hivemind, so connected telepathically to Bluesky / Reddit and have people like Jason Schreier post on there (whom they protect). haha
>>739910327>No other extraction shooter does movement like Marathon.clunky movement? sure i guess.
>>739909776Pretty sure this pic is altered but also, you don’t play looking at a dude’s lips. I dunno I feel like racists would like accuracy, to me it’s just to help shells stand out more.>>739910394Again that image is distorted but it’s the saw’d off shotgun. pic related is the ingame version. Again, in the context of all of the weapons being cheap 3d printed trash, it’s pretty realistic.
>>739882789Please stop reminding me that extraction shooters exists. It's humiliating for the human race
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>>739910565>>739910658Which is really sad imo. It’s like refusing to play a game based on sprite graphics or something. I’m not surprised that people made it an issue, I just think it’s unfortunate that it was an issue. I did not like Tarkov or Arc raiders for reasons beyond the art style, for example, it wasn’t the sole reason of me giving it up.And I mean, text logs was the OG Marathon’s method of storytelling too. There is also a lot of voiceovers to these logs and I dunno, having the lore play out as a forensic recreation of the crime scene through using communications as evidence is still pretty entertaining in principal. Also hate the art style of character models if you like, but check out the skyboxes that shit is guaranteed to entertain.
>>739910808Every single time I've seen this game talked about, t his medic guy is used as the forefront of discussion. And that's not on just here. Its everywhere. I almost thought he was a fucking main character or something.
>>739911131Probably because he's the first character in the class selection screen.
>>739910909>Lay? OffsWhere?
>>739910808>Pretty sure this pic is alteredNo, this is genuinely what it looks like.https://marathonthegame.fandom.com/wiki/Runners#Triagehttps://youtu.be/FgrypWZivBs?si=FMkV-3HsY7EXbd0X&t=42
>>739911115>but check out the skyboxes that shit is guaranteed to entertain.That trick wore thin in Destiny.
But I was told that the chuds lost.
>>739911115again, you're missing the context. this is already another live service game in a genre nobody asked for and that already has ample amount of games for the niche it panders to. of course the extremely garish and obviously divisive art style would be a deterrent, its not "sad"
>>739910909Kamala? Brat.
>>739910806You have dashes, slides, double jumps, air dashes, sprinting… Marathon is so much faster than any other extraction shooter. I don’t know how you ended up choosin the adjective clunky here.I would say a regular character in hunt or Tarkov move 25% the speed of a marathon character. Again, whether you like that or not is up to you. I would much rather you complain about movement in Marathon being too fast than to say it’s clunky or not unique.
>>739911396So it's normal obnoxious movement shooter mobility in an obnoxious subgenre of shooter.
>>739911396>You have dashes, slides, double jumps, air dashes, sprinting…hory shit never been done before>hero shooter but le extraction game mode!!!amazing bungie i kneel
>>739911283Did you really win? Marabros are getting frequent updates to their game. Hard to call it a loss for them.
>>739911608>hard to call it a loss for themNo, I'd call having to suffer against cheaters and deal with longer queue times while seeing your game get regularly humiliated is where the loss part comes in.
>>739910394>Also what the FUCK is that gun on the right?WSTR (waster) double barrel shotgun.
>>739911396>clunkyIt is clunky as fuck. Those air dashes and all that are limited to certain shells. And just the basic movement is also slow and clunky. With max Destroyer stamina, youre able to dash twice. Sprinting can only go forward and if you choose another direction you full stop, its clunky as fuck. Other games allow you to sprint and hold more than just the W key. If you say thats part of the design well its shit design. No sprinting and reloading. CoD has way better movement than Marathon as do many other shooters on a basic level. Marathons movement feels straight out of Halo.
>>739911258Ok.>>739911343If you want to compete you have to try to be different. Maybe they weren’t different in the way you wanted, but I like their art style. I think their lack of advertising and their choice to go into a niche genre when the video game industry is going through major uncertainty is a hilarious risk too, so let’s focus on that more.
>>739909776>What the fuck is this characterTriage. Field medic character, with a defibrillator theme. I hate how he looks, but he is fun to play. Except for the fact that, despite being black, he has the worst mobility in the game.
>>739911967>with a defibrillator themeI think you meant 'fent reactor'
>>739911519>>739911589Thank you for taking the position I recommended for you to take. These are legitimate opinions to have even though I’ll disagree with them. I like an extraction shooter that can be both fast and slow depending on your preferences. I think it even makes it the game more accessible to a larger audience.>>739911757With implants and stims, you can do a lot more, so your narrative is shaky. And even with those limitations, you cover way more distance than other extraction shooter. You call this “clunky” then every other extraction shooter is…. Catastrophically slow. Again, I have 0 problems if you dislike the game for being so fast. Just take the position as those other two posters I replied to.
>>739911115i dont want to look at something i think is ugly for hundreds of hours and its retarded to expect someone to do that. its honestly pretty rare that a games art style is considered ugly imo until you start getting into anime/pixelart games. A game might be ugly in the sense that its blurry as fuck with TAA, ugly models, etc but the whole 3d printed redditscape with garish colors is ugly as sin from the ground up. every time i look at it im trying to figure out where the fuck 200 million dollars went into this when the actual content of the game is thread bare and its not like the maps are spectacularly designed with such immense detail and perfection that it justifies only having 3/4 maps on release and a night variant being considered as a separate map.
What is Marathon even about
>>739882789>game sales slow down after launchAnd water is wet
>>739911396titanfall/ultrakill have fast, fluid and rewarding movement. This shit is is at the very best not unique. I cant comment on the feel of it because ive only ever seen gameplay of it but nothing about it looks like something i cant get in a significantly better form somewhere else.
>>739912185Exactly. Most games follow conventional character models and a conventional art style. Exactly as you said, some people refuse to play anime-style games for the exact attitude you have towards marathon. Live your truth. But don’t be surprised if others like it, just like how some people like anime aesthetics. Or 2nd aesthetics, or w/e
>>739909951For me, it's the theming. I don't want to play Tarkov because it's a milsim set in what looks like a slightly worse version of my city. I don't want to play Hunt Showdown because cowboys vs demons isn't my thing, I'd prefer a more fantasy oriented settings. I played Arc Raiders and thought that he setting was interesting (I didn't get far, but I think that the implication is that humans that went to space are trying to kill the humans remaining on Earth), but that was after I got Marathon so I just went back after 8 hours since the gameplay was just alright. Marathon is more tense and the action is better, even if Arc's enemies are technically more interesting mechanically.
>>739912468Is titanfall/ultrakill an extraction shooter? I thought we were talking about how Marathon stands out as an extraction shooter. Go back up the discussion and that’s where we started from.Yes, other games have fast movement. Titanfall blows Marathon out of the water. But amongst extraction shooters, the only one I know of that goes fast is marathon. I do think Arc is also somewhat brisk but still, nothing close to Marathon and its speed is also highlighted by the 3rd person camera.
>>739912230I was trying to write a short summary, but then remembered the intro you see the first time you launch the game. Just watch that, it sums the story up well enough. For more into, play the classic Marathon games, they are free on Steam.https://youtu.be/MdZrZNogaY0
>>739912286But the Marashills have been telling us that a game that sold 1.2M copies in two weeks couldn’t under any circumstance have sold less than 3M copies in 2 months
>>739912163>And even with those limitations, you cover way more distance than other extraction shooter. You call this “clunky” then every other extraction shooter is…. Catastrophically slow.CoD has way faster movement and that isnt a grind. Marathon was literally called slow Apex because it is slow as fuck and clunky to boot.>Again, I have 0 problems if you dislike the game for being so fast. It is not fast, at all. Look at the shooters on the market, lot of them are faster than Marathon and its basic movement isn't clunky. Look at something like Deadlock where its movement far surpasses Marathon with more interesting abilities too and a deeper build system and hero roster.
>>739912478what im saying is thats its perfectly fair to not play a game from the artstyle and not sad. Im not surprised that others like it. as a 2underground4u musicfag, what im surprised about is that the people who do like it were bending themselves into knots to not say "i like it but i can see why others dont" >>739912643they arent but movement mechanics arent in a vacuum. wall runs, high vertical scaling, grappling hooks, unlimited fluid sprinting are all things that could be added in and not need pages of lore to justify why it can happen. With the robots and shit it would just slot in seamlessly. If it did have these things i would praise the movement. I dont play extraction because its a bad genre in general. Marathon had an opportunity to add in all kinds of really cool shit and really set itself apart from its competition but has failed in every aspect.
>>739912910Thanks
>>739911837>lack of advertisinglol
>>739882826failed to make it's budget back
>>739909660SORRY FOR BLASTING HAVING.
>>739882789Free to play will probably save it.
>>739913168Again. We’re talking about what makes marathon unique as an EXTRACTION shooter. You are right that it isn’t the most mobile shooter. But we are talking about it being unique in a very particular genre. I’m sorry if we got off track, but I am still basing the discussion from this post:>>739909951
>>739882826
>>739913691Yeah, they are trying that for a week.
>>739903124>Sony doesn't want to spend half a billion (the assumed cost to make D3) right now, especially since they've had so many other flops on their hands. (Concord, Marathon, Saros, probably FairGame$ and the Horizon Hunter Gathering game that's coming up)I love how we can confidently say Horizon and Fairgame$ will flop and shils have no comeback. Absolute state of modern audience games.
>>739883331NIGGERMAN IN JAPAN sold 2 million in the same timeframe. Actual sales numbers, not just gay pass players.
>>739913809Horizon Hunting Gathering will get astroturfed like all the other Horizon games do, but it won't save it. Both could maybe be fine if their budgets are small, but I think Fairgames has been in development for five or six years, so it might already be fucked.
>>739913809Probably because you aren't actually talking to shills, only people who actually like Marathon.
>>739913809You have to wait until we are close to release, the shilling doesn’t start until then
>>739913373Well I’d say it’s “sad” not in a demeaning way, I mean “sad” as “unfortunate that someone may miss out and not give it a chance”. Like trying a different cuisine but being scared off by the descriptions. That’s all. I get that we assume the more negative connotation, it is the internet.I say Marathon has added in cool shit and continues to add cooler shit. True, maybe it missed out on some real creative ideas and i’d love to hear them. But in terms of being unique it is very unique as an extraction shooter for giving players a ton of movement capabilities which has massive implications for the rest of the game loop and how you approach the game.And you are allowed for not wanting to try extraction shooters. It didn’t click for me until Marathon. I think it’s sad/unfortunate that you may never give it the genre a chance, but if you did, then I’m happy for you for giving it a fair shake and for being chill to talk about it.
>>739913809Nah, I know I won’t like Horizon. Don’t even know what Fairgame$ is lmaoI just like marathon
I just want to Marathon shut down and Bungie die. Hopefully someone that isn't retarded buys the Destiny IP.
>>739914010Fairgames has been in development for 3 years at least and it isn't even in beta yet kek
>>739882826Sold more than Metroid Prime 4
>>739913809>>739914010>>739914295>>739914437FYI, it’s now called Br€ak In, and it’s an extraction shooter
>>739909776it's George Droyd
>>739914610>it's called Br3ak inSeems silly to use the Euro character because burgers don't have it on their keyboards>and it's an extraction shooterI refuse to believe this. Not after seeing how Marathon has flopped. Source me or get the fuck out.
>>739913698I don't care about that post. When you release a game, you are always competing with other games on the market unless you're FIFA and obviously you won't attract RTS players. Marathon is a more streamlined shooter trying to capture marketshare from other shooters or even share space with them. People usually play one main game and have a couple other games they play.But on a basic level Marathon feels clunky to play. Its shooting is fine but nothing that blows you away, especially if you've played other shooters. Its AI enemies feel familiar to every other shooter, bad guys that juke and shoot you. Sometimes they throw nades, and if youve played Destiny they definitely feel familiar, recycled even.Arc Raiders did not blow up because there were millions of hardcore extraction players waiting for Arc to release, it shared a spot with people who came from CoD and such where its more streamlined gameplay vibed with them. Arc is slower than Marathon yes, but not Quake to CoD 1 disparity of slow, just a little slower, and like with Marathon, with certain items like the snaphook you can move really fast and create some movement with it or the sliding and grappling allows for some cool movement tech. Marathon doesn't really have that. Yes it has hero abilities but those are slapped onto a really clunky shooter that feels straight out of Halo and not in a good way. I guess its fine if you moved from Destiny to Marathon but having played other shooters in 2026, it feels clunky as fuck. Shooting is again fine but played one shooter, you've basically played them all and it does not blow you out of the water. The awful maps too do not help, people have been playing BRs for several years now with these big expansive maps and coming into Marathon is jarring, not to mention the first two maps are just boring and uninteresting to play. So really now you're down to 2 maps, one only open for 3 days out of the week. Marathon just isn't it.
>>739891629So instead of supporting Destiny, which was already the biggest PvE co-op shooter with raids, they made a new PvP game from a dead IP with an offputting art style and then started turning it into a PvE co-op shooter...???
>>739914743>Seems silly to use the Euro character because burgers don't have it on their keyboardsMost keyboards lack it, outright. Alt-8364 is *supposed* to print a Euro sign, but it seems to return ¼ instead, so copy and pasting is needed to get €s.
>>739914743https://insider-gaming.com/fairgames-extraction-shooter/>Documents sent to Insider Gaming indicate that Haven Studios’ upcoming multiplayer game, ‘Fairgames’, will lean into the extraction shooter genre
>>739914743>>739914897I don’t know about the € thing, but the game did change names to Break In
>>739883331So they spend 500m and only got 45m back?
>>739914907>it's trueI am going to have a stroke trying to understand this thinking. What the FUCK are the Sony bosses thinking? HOW DO THEY GREENLIGHT ANOTHER EXTRACTION SHOOTER WHEN ONE THEY JUST SPENT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS ON IS GETTING OUT DRAWN BY BULLSHIT LIKE >>739900510
>>739914168ive played tarkov/dayz at release and watched a friend of mine play fortnite for several hours and in that time get just a few kills/never make it to the end. after a while i just asked if he was even having fun just to get back a middling "yeah"as much of a waste of time games can be, extraction/BR is just feelbad, reminds me of a job and is more of a timesink than something like OSRS where at the very least i have progression and my character isnt going to get wiped after a predetermined amount of time. keeping "for an extraction shooter" as the determinate tag is really only doing so much lifting. its still a shooter, its still first person, its still everything that makes an fps function but the only thing is that the goal changes. its not an excuse to have very meh feeling mechanics just because the goal of the game is different. Adding in smoother/higher skill movement and something like a TDM/FFA mode would have garnered and kept more players. The name bungie (used to) carry a lot of weight and i expect a LOT when something with their tag comes onto the scene. >“unfortunate that someone may miss out and not give it a chance”i get this when it comes to shorter games at the very least. Its very rare ill knock a games look when it comes to a singleplayer game. but bungle really fucked up with this. its been said to death but>extremely divisive art style>extremely divisive genre>lackluster content on release>lackluster characters and customization>releasing off the back of several PR nightmares between plagiarism, D2 being raped into dust, several other games completely failing on release>needing to be a top 5 game of the year to be successfultitanfall 2 failed because titanfall 1 was rightfully raped whenever it was a full priced game without a campaign despite the fact that 2 is phenomenal. the fact that marathon can ask $40 for how little there actually is, is asinine and absurd. people are tired of it.
>>739914779Most shooters don’t even have AI enemies. You don’t see AI in Gears or CoD. You end up with comparing Marathon’s AI enemies to Arc and Tarkov, and I think it’s pretty fair to say Marathon’s AI above them in terms of variety. I don’t recall much from Tarkov and haven’t played Arc but I don’t think the bots throw is unique. Destiny similar? Sure but you aren’t PvP in those instances.Your comparison to Arc and Marathon is fine. Arc is also more accessible to 3rd person gamers which is also unique in the extraction shooter subgenre.>maps uninterestingAgain sorry boss I think this is subjective. I think this is because Perimeter has unimpressive drops. Dire marsh got its drops buffed so there is a lot more going on, and the meta changed so people aren’t relying so hard on snipers don’t think I have to defend Outpost or Cyro, those maps are insane. I think i’m a good judge on the maps because i’ve spent quite some time dying on them and learning their layouts and meta
>>739913698lmao hunt is more unique than marathon and didnt costed sony zillions of dollars
>>739915059It’s for the inevitable crossover with Marathon
>>739915540Unironically, an Island of Misfit Toys type crossover where you have Concord, Highguard, Marathon, and Fairgames characters all in the same game would be pretty fun.
>>739915601Or a Wreck-It Ralph spinoff.
>>739915450>21246 gamers onlineits nice to see when devs arent completely ashamed of their product.
>>739910132what the fuck is that design
>>739915498>Most shooters don’t even have AI enemies. You don’t see AI in Gears or CoD.What? Yes you do. In their SP campaign, oh what that doesnt count because AI being together with players is so mind-shattering? No, the AI are again fine, but seen not only in Bungies past work, quite literally recycled from Destiny, but in most shooters namely CoD. The AI in CoD also took cover and threw grenades too. If you say no that doesn't count, DMZ AI was in CoD so yes there were actually AI and players at the same time. The main point is that you've seen the AI before in plenty of other shooters, whether in SP campaigns or not. So fighting them doesn't feel something amazing like some would say. In fact, they're rather boring to fight, a lot of them are big bullet sponges so you click on their head for ten minutes while you're crouched behind a crate and stagger them, break their shield and bleh. Really nothing to it. Putting this boring AI in a map with other players doesn't blow people away and the numbers speak for themselves, a rather lack luster launch for a game of its magnitude that fell off rather quickly.Again sorry boss I think this is subjective. I think this is because Perimeter has unimpressive drops. Dire marsh got its drops buffed so there is a lot more going on, and the meta changed so people aren’t relying so hard on snipers don’t think I have to defend Outpost or Cyro, those maps are insane. I think i’m a good judge on the maps because i’ve spent quite some time dying on them and learning their layouts and metaCompare Warzone, you have such verticality to them and are able to climb to great heights parachute and its huge. The maps in Marathon are tiny and have nowhere near the verticality to Fortnite, CoD, or if you NEED to stay in the extraction shooter genre Arc.
>>739907887It's not the journos or their editors who chose that picture, it's the guy who made the tweet.
>>739913809>>739914907>Officially, the game was described in 2023 as a “competitive heist experience”, which didn’t reveal too much about what the game would be. But in short, at least for one of the game’s flagship game modes named ‘Cargo Heist,’ it is basically an extraction shooter with an objective (think Marathon with a contract for those who have played).
>they're still talking about marathon
>>739915978What the fuck is Sony thinking? They have so little faith in Marathon that they are going to cannibalize it with another similar game? What's the plan here.
>>739915450I respect this position. I’ll defend Marathon for having content and customization because it’s fun for me, but if someone says “yeah sure but it didn’t have enough for me and I personally didn’t have fun” I think that’s totally reasonable. If people went with “lackluster” instead of calling it concord I wouldn’t be so incredulous lol.
>>739916198>they're going to cannibalize itThat shitty Horizon Hunter Gather game had a playtest the same time as Marathon's first server stress test, lmao
>>739882789The business world needs to wake up to the obvious fact that not all publicity is good publicity. """Controversy""" worked in the 90s because the controversy wasn't with the customers; it was with Karens who hate the customers and their weak henpecked husbands. It doesn't work post-2013 because you're siding with the Karens.
>>739916591BTW, if this is too complicated for you to wrap your head around, you shouldn't have input on multi-million dollar projects, especially ones where the overwhelming majority of your earning potential (more than 80% is a realistic assumption) is from male customers who's interests couldn't be more opposed to Karen's.
>>739915801tranny dicksucker
>>739882789I can't help but laugh at the black robot face being used, it feels almost caricature-esque like some looney troon will leap in and be like >OMG THAT'S SUCH A RACIST DEPICTION!
>>739883331Normally if its a small/medium budget game with not much marketing that would be the case. See Pic related's remake 6 years ago for such a case (it did so well even SE acknowledged it).Marathon was almost a quarter billion (if not more) just to make, with marketing up the ass so its closer to half a billion. This is a spectacular flop on every level imaginable.
>>739916741But anon, think how much more money we could make if we tap into the female and LGBT market!
>>739917936I fail to understand how is that everyone in the industry sees how Nintendo figured out how to appeal to women and troons with their cozy games and instead of copying they keep attempting to shove their shit on all the other genres
And Destiny is still dead
>>739918196
>>739884072And, on top of that, with people pushing agaist the game for a long time.There was a time when you couldn't even create pregmanta threads in /v/
>>739918756
>>739889305I tried it out, the game is completely unplayable with lag, so i went to check the reviews and people are getting VAC bans due to server desync.I ain't touching this shit anymore
>>739882789i really wanted it to succeed. the lore and art look greatbut it isnt fucking FUNthe open beta was so fucking boring.
>>739918845>There was a time when you couldn't even create pregmanta threads in /v/That's because pedo fags couldn't contain themselves not because of counter-shilling
>>739919186Try the free week, lot more stuff to do and you can finally try outpost, which wasn’t on the beta
>>739918845Pajeet jannies will allow endless AAA woke slop shilling but will delete threads about actual video games on sight, it is known.
>>739919128i was looking at it and saw pretty much of the same + the unnamed data collection + always online + dlc and turned away from it. Got interested in the idea of a taskbar idler thing and ended up downloading cute and funny desktop pet. are there any other idlers that go on in the corner of the screen?
>>739919462I can stomach the chink data collection, if they want to see what i jerk off to be my guest, but messing with my steam account is too fuckin far.The crusaders quest idler is nice, it's quite short tho.
>>739919063>theleftcantmeme.jpgIt also makes no sense on top of Marathon never being a threat to Arc. Arc's numbers didn't even more when Marathon came out back in March, ffs.
>>739919462I think Bongocat is an idler that sits in the corner.
>>739890556A.I. squeezing people out of their hobbies and professions through material shortages will absolutely be the straw that breaks the back of society on the A.Q.
>>739920165arc stopped doing updates til october because they're scared shartless of marachong
Why is Marathon still getting 500+ reply threads 4 months after release
>>739919645its pretty much gg for the game unless they do something about the ch*nese or remove the marketplace. A free idler that has marketplace access is going to get raped until everything is sitting at a penny.
>>739920317It's funny to shitpost about.
>>739920290
>>739920290right im sure the game that sold 16 million is scared of the game that hasnt even crossed 2 million
>>739920352Funny that it seems it bricked exactly because they did something to curb the bots, but it bricked the whole game.People didn't even care or even noticed the game had a heavy market place emphasis until the game become unplayable and they dug into why.
the west coast has been redeemed
When did the title shit start with [Heartbreaking] on here? Reminds me of Twitter troll accounts
>>739920738See>>739898893
>>739920769>Japanese Twitter
>>739920290Kek ARC sold 4M copies in the first quarter of this year
>>739920738It's making fun of how the MSM propaganda headlines are always trying to tell you that you should have a retarded reaction to the headline.>Yes, the latest Hollywood slop is completely ignoring your feedback and doubling down. Here's why that's a good thing!
>>739921283I get it but its kinda lame
>>739911131?I see more of Vandal or Destroyer
>>739911131Lowest hanging fruit. Every other character looks fine. Hell, Vandal is hot as fuck in-game, which i did not think possible. Her MIDA skin makes me fucking diamond.
>>739922623Once again. I have not seen a single fucking character beyond lips. Post pictures to diversify discussion.
>mark noseworthyhttps://x.com/Pirat_Nation/status/2060874146226315428
>>739922623Vandal is the most aggressively hideous character in the game. The best are Thief and Rook, but even they look lame when you look beyond their few passable qualities.
>>739922785Thats a nice opinion anon. Too bad my dick dont care.
>>739883331>Somehow the doomposting retards will turn a 1.5m sales at $40 into a "flop"Doesn't the game need 6 million sales at $40 to break even?
>>739923037No. It needed 8-9.
>>739882789Halobros...we won
What are some other games that have come out recenrly you think arre good?
I've never felt joy watching a game crash and burn until nowBungie deserves this
>>739919063Arc already made it's money 10 times overthey can have a Highguard death tomorrow and the studio would still come out on top and all the devs millionaires.Bungie on the other hand is a black hole wasting money with nothing green lit, no funds to do anything and Sony has ZERO faith in them.
>>739890465>SEASONAL WIPESthis is a good thing you casual faggot.
>>739910132EUGH!
>>739924582yeah dude continue being hostile towards casualsthat's helping lmao
>>739924263kek this. arc was so successful it spawned two more games in development for embark.marathon was such a big flop, they devalued bungie, shut down destiny despite 2 expansions in the pipeline, and now maraflop is the ONLY game bungie is developing and they 180'ed from their hardcore pvp game grrrr casuals get out to please come back oh god the suits are going to fire our asses look we are making a pve mode and look our game is free for an entire week please buy our game please
Since Bungie is a money sink, how much will Sony increase the PS5's price for next year to recoup the lost?
>>739924263yeah but arc sucks
>>739882826lmao
I wonder what the plan is. i'd love to hear what they could possibly be discussing in those meetings. maybe they will change their mind on destiny 3 development. maybe a new IP. they can't possibly think focusing on marathon is a valid plan. a company that big focusing entirely on a 6k player game? that's why the destiny 2 news is so confusing. they must have something else they are discussing.
>>739908423What other game currently being sold is a bungie title and how much did those sales make up in the same time period?faggot
>>739925923Probably is>Lmao there's no hope, ship whatever you can and milk the little that's leftThey are super fucked
Predict jun 2 peak>63k, 35k 1 week later
>>739925080$900 base PS5$1350 PS5 pro
>>739925923After destiny 2 got axed and destiny 3 not even making the cut, sony is going to shut them down and scrape the good pieces.
>>739924747>Couldn't even break 150k when it was free
>>739926265100k
>>739925080Sony should retroactively increase the price for people who already own a PS5 through higher PSN fees (plus interest (plus tip)) until the debt is paid off or they get locked out.
>>739926347the server slam lost like 80k players in a single day lel
>>73992626514k for the first 3 days, 6k after that.
>200m budget on this type of gamefor what purpose
>destiny 2's 24h low is higher than Marathons 24h high >lets kill destinykek
>>739882789>with 68% on SteamPCissies are desperate for ANY game aren't they lmao
>>739924747Wipes are better for casuals, it removes all pressure of gear fear and prevents people from hoarding absurd loadouts. Next reset a casual can pick it up without having to fear running into a kitted tryhard.
>>739927219maybe for 1 day after that the sweats skyrocket even harder than on release because they actually know what to do and how to speed run itthen it gets even worse and casuals quit again
Marathon will NEVER have more than 20k players again. Kek
>>739927292Strictly better than “oh you joined 2 months after release here try and learn the map while trying to dodge epic loadouts”I dunno resets are very freeing and I think people are just going to get more reckless and throw around high level gear the closer you get to reset time. The sweats will stick to the ranked mode.
>>739884072Diana won
The cavalry has arrived.
Just two more weeks till shut down huh?
>>739927219Lol no, wipes are the worst possible option for casuals, it ensures that they will never make any progress.>But muh sweats won't be geared day oneThey will, and they will mog the casual, because they are living and breathing the game like it's a job.
>>73992626540k, 15k 1 week later
>>739882789>still more players than PedomataAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAH
>>739883331if gta 6 sells 1.5million copies would you consider it a success?
>Between marathon and D2 Bungie have lost Sony over 700,000,000USD>game sells 68% on steam at 40 dollars a pop is 40million>700,000,000 > 40,000,000GUYS IT DIDN"T FLOP OKAY!!! I-IT'S JUST A RETURN TO FORM, CHUD!
>FPS>failsGood.
>Butthurt D2 players still huffing the Marathon steam charts wank months laterlol. lmao.
>>739890210can you teach me how to have a blast? please?
>>739928914and to top it off they're using GAME PASS PLAYERS AS METRICS OF SUCCESS LMFAOfucking brutal self own.
>>739929051have fun and don't get scared :)
>>739929051Is PoE2 going f2p? I thought it was meant to after a year but it never did.
>>739929064No they aren't. Marathon isn't on gamepass.Can't help themselves but lie.
>>739883481"No one who likes Destiny will play Marathon because they liked Destiny" is more accurate.There's very little cross-over appeal so what Destiny 2 brings to the table is giving Bungie a reputation for deleting content people paid for and overpriced DLC.
>>739929147You know what I apologise I just assumed that every MS store game was 'pass'able (I've never used it) my bad. Still, no amount of tracked sales wipes clean the debt that bungie are in with sony so the point still stands.
>>739929273the only helping hand they're getting is not having to pay the 30% fee on playstationbut 70% of their sales are on steam so, yeah
>>739929273>australian>just makes shit upchecks out
>>739889910Shut it lobsterback
>>739927116why are they killing destiny anyway?
>>739928914also add concord, how the fuck is sony still alive?
>>739930080They need to go all in on marathon to pretend the game isn't a failure.
>>739882789Why didn’t it work? We begged them. We PLEADED with them. But they just won’t buy it. No matter how hard we protested, no matter how many tears we spilled, not a single chud bought our fucking game
>>739930123They have a very diverse portfolio.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Sony>>739929595lol shut up nigger
I-Its not a sprint...Its a marathon...
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>>739930369Lol
>>739896907Good god this game is so fucking ugly
Chuds lost, Marawon, keep seething for 100+ years
>>739882789LMAOFucking Heroes of Might and Magic Olden Era already sold over 1 million in a shorter amount of time, that's pathetic
>>739905838No it didn't
>>739907029I find that hard to believe. Bungie hasn't produced anything legitimate since Forsaken.
>>739882789>Alinea Analyticslol, I won't trust those retards. They don't have real numbers. They just pass off their guesses as facts. They do that shit with gacha too. Unless the company accounts the sales themselves, it's all bullshit guessing games.
>>739883331Yeah, it was such a great success that they are now ending support for their biggest, most successful game of all time, firing hundreds of employees, and came in $700 million under in their most recent evaluation. Such a massive success, bro.
>>739930870We will believe them because the marashill spent the last two weeks using them to pretend the game had sold 3M copies
>>739883331Yes it's a flop. That is 60kk before gaben/playstation and government take their cut, the game cost alone is 200kk+
>>739929124they released the last early access patch yesterday and expect to release 1.0 at the end of the year so probably then
>>739930464like distractingly ugly, I feel like if I did play it I wouldn't be able to concentrate because everything looks like a bottle of onions
>>739915498It’s concord 3
>>739910909You forgot comeback: studied.
>>739930297Guards. this prison colonist is talking back.
