GAME IS SAVEDGAME IS DEADLONG LIVE RTS
>>739884239I want those red guys from campaign :(But this is pretty neat as far as patches go
>>739884239But does it make Protoss a viable option in a Terran meta?
>>739884239Is inject larva manually still a thing? that was fucking stupid since forever
Didn't everyone go back to SC1?
My handler baited and has not paid me so I will ruin all of your shitty attempt
>>739884239Why are they still updating a game from 2009?
>>739884239What the fuck were they thinking. 8 worker start?Ruins every guide from the past 10 years. Slows the game down when it's already too slow compared to League.No one wants this. Shin and herO are gonna quit.
Artosis breaks it downhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeqY6FMUmeo
>>739884239>>739884589Yeah not a fan of the slow start. I already thought the game was perfect desu. Maybe Zerg just needed more early game anti air to deal with Protoss using Oracles and Terran going Banshee but that was it. I do think Protoss needed nerfing a bit though because they started expanding like Zerg when expanding was meant to put you behind. Warp gates are too strong.
>>739884701nerfing warp gate is the only way to buff protoss in the future
>>739884434Last time I checked, SC2 still gets more players, but the most popular game mode is coop.
>>739884239What's the best way to play SC1 if I don't want to use Blizzard's shitty launcher?
>>739884658Artosis doesn't know diddly squat about Starcraft 2.He may be able to talk a little about Wings of Liberty, but that hasn't been relevant in over a decade.
>>739884535Same reason Valve does.
>>739884658>They are FIXING the Biggest Mistake in SC2 EVER !!They're removing protoss?
>>739884803yeah but its funny to see him rage desuhope harstem has a better take: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMZGDIDYG54
>>739885141unironically yes
>>739885293All of this because terrans get irrationally mad if you tell them they can't win at the 10 minutes mark, and they have to tech to liberator for a 15 min+ win.
>>739885436Indomitable human spirit should be able to win at any mark.
>>739885436I kind of wish every race got this much of a shakeup
>>739884701>Maybe Zerg just needed more early game anti airIn all the games I put on a second screen, zergs almost actively avoid using spore crawlers at all even when they're getting pounded by flybies, when it's the purpose of their existence
Have they fixed the bug where the protoss never ever wins any tournaments?
>>739886157herO won the GSL so I guess yes?
>>739886157Hero existing defeats your whole fucking argument.Protoss can just bumble their way to victory with the sloppiest execution possible and simply be carried by their extremely broken race.Meanwhile zerg continously gets nerfed because one super-human fingolian playing like a literal machine with flawless execution manages to beat some dude 51% of the time.
>>739884239>lets gatekeep our dead multiplayer scene even moreAlright thenI'll just continue my WC3 playthrough
>>739885786zergs don't use half the tools in their arsenal and then whine
>>739886608explain how this patch gatekeeps multiplayer
>>739886157a couple patches ago
>>739887185>Game is so shit 2/3rds of the zerg units are a moneysink and autoloseYeah we've known this for 16 years
>>739886157Lol I can tell you haven't watched any recent SC2. Protoss is the strongest race in the game atm. HerO regularly beats Clem despite Clem being better at micro/macro, just because Protoss is OP as fuck
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>>739886157Protoss are the braindead race, they're only balanced because their players are the majority and also are braindead and fuck up
How is co-op anyway?
Thanks, OP. I'll relay this to the five people still playing SC2.They'll be thrilled.
>>739887185Zergs have lings, mutas, Infestors (forced onto them, everyone hates them but they're needed) and sometimes roaches. All of the other units are SHIT at cost efficiency at all levels and not even by spamming them they can win battles. All zerg gameplan is to expand>inject larva like a fucking automaton>amass and pray the enemy to fuck up
>>739888036Pretty shit honestly, just failed Void Launch cause my P3 Stukov massed banshees and nothing else
>>739888036Didn't they declare they're not going to update it anymore after the arcturus mengks faction, CMIIW.
>Picture this>Zerg have suicide units that are costly as fuck>And when you build them, they can only attack once and at melee range>So you lose money when they don't hit a target AND when they do because they don't always kill
>>739888618And they only hit grounded units
>>739888760And do friendly fire
>open youtube>random Artosis video top of the page talking about sc2 patch>open /v/>see this threadWhy is blizz push the algorithm for a dead game?
>>739888870>>739888760>>739888618And the only way to produce them is a two step process where you build then sacrifice your defining unit to itAnd you have to inject larvas like a spastic for awhile to get enough of them
>>739888870And they require zergling instead of larva
>>739888036I'm fucking addicted to it, still play several games a day while watching videos. Karax's reconstruction beam tickles my brain nice.
>>739884257Isn't there an SC1 mod that adds the Tal'darim?
>>739889053And you need to land at least two of them to kill a single worker
>>739889012You're being played by the algorithm, it did it on its own. Now you're thinking about StarCraft, you probably used to watch artosis, you'll probably click his video and watch if you haven't.
>SC1 has lings as the melee unit and Hydras as the range>SC2 makes a middle ground that is the Roach, supposedly the "tanky unit" of the Zerg>It cannot fire at air, the attack is almost melee, so big it stumbles with everything else, and its hard countered with very cheap and basic units>Blizzard added a bunch of very costly techs to make it worthwhile against the other races>Or you can just specialize in Hydras and MutasThe SC2 design as a whole is a mess and the units sound "fun" but then they're balanced to be not
>>739884257Then play co-op. But I warn you, alarak requires a lot of grinding for his best playstyle. Also most of his units are mid.>>739888036It's great, some of the best rts multiplayer available that isn't ladderslop. Standard brutal is boring as fuck once you learn the game, the b+ mutators are fun but can be very hit or miss. Just wished it got any updates at all. Not even new content, just easy balance patches and tweaking existing content that they could totally do like pvp still gets. I'm very curious about the player count comparison between co-op and pvp.
>>739889767>Then play co-op. But I warn you, alarak requires a lot of grinding for his best playstyle. Also most of his units are mid.>Be excited for grinding Prestige to get lasting Mothership and lasting destroyers>Fucking useless when his prestige that lets you feed his fodder to his mechs lets you turn Vanguards and Wrathwalkers into ADHD blasting machines.
>>739884658artosis doesnt care about sc2 he just wants it to be bw2
>>739889880I can tell you his mothership p3 is his best prestige by far, and there's usually no reason to ever play him without it. P1 is really meh since his robo units aren't very good to begin with. Their attacks are very slow projectiles, the vanguards can even miss. Their damage is high and attack speed is slow, so there's a lot of wasted dps to overkill from them all attacking the same unit with 40hp. The best strat of p3 is to get the mothership in the early game as a huge power boost, then tech into ascendants or wrathwalkers, only getting a few destroyers here and there. The void rays are good but extremely weak to enemy aoe and impossible to replace quickly if lost.
>>739889767I've always wanted to get into coop after maxing out Artanis but there's no bundle and sale for all the commanders. I'm not fucking buying microtransactions for a dead mode for 5 bucks a pop. I'd rather buy another monthly+battle pass on my gacha.
>>739889478But Hydras are prohibitively expensive and you're stuck with a shit unit comp until god knows when or until you're 3 hatcheries up, all larvaed and the enemy is fucking up so hard your units are actually going to do somethingOr at that moment just consider Broodlords or anything else for that cost
>>739890501Buying the trilogy campaign pack gets you up to karax for free, but yeah it sucks the other 11 commanders rarely if ever get sales or bundles. It's not the worst value in the world if you enjoy leveling up, just getting a commander up to max prestige takes many hours, as well as all of the time you'll play it after. What's crazy to me is those 11 commanders are $55, but a single set of cosmetic skin for ladder play is like fucking $85.
>>739884784Why do you lie?Sc1 has 60 - 65000 while sc2 has 50000
>>739890501Everyone is free to play up to level 5 as a demo and you get everything up to Karax with LotV. Just sample and buy someone you like (Mengsk)
>>739886463>>739886567Oh yeah Her0, he only has to face a washed up Maru (with extreme pain in his whole arm) and a second rate zerg
>>739890916Pretty text book for final stage product, they don't expect new blood at a rate they'd be satisfied with so put it on maintenance mode, have the artists who always finish way ahead of new project tech and planning churn out skins and colors and gouge as hard as you can since the only customers still around are locked in no matter what.
>>739891074there's 0 chance sc2 gets more players than AOE2. blizzard doesn't release numbers for a reason
>>739889012I made this thread for free
>>739884239Is it coming to Steam finally?
>>739884239this update unironically got me interested in coming back to SC2
