Why is everyone who plays these games 40-60 year old boomer?
but I'm only 35
>>739891907Because zoomies are half-filtered even updating YAML every patch?
>>739892519YAML is trash
>>739892824Based.
>>739891907Zoomers can't handle slow tactical gameplay. They need everything zooming around and play automatically or else it's a "clunky" game.
>>739891907>Lose an arm during a mission>Every weapon on that arm gets completely destroyedWho thought this was a good idea?
>>739892824Show better mechlab then, I sure as hell won't bother with vanilla
>>739893256What the fuck do you expect to happen?
>>739893323>it's better because i can install a buttplug in an atlaslol
Move over simfags, this is now a thread about the vastly superior and actually fun Xbox spinoff games.
>>739893482>battlesuit shitting mechI'll install it
>>739893565jihad dlc soon i can feel it
>>739891907Because this shit is as stale as they are, it's literally the same as 30 years ago without anything new
>>739891907Because no one else really knows what the fuck it is. I have a feeling HBS made a blunder when they didn't consider making their BT game into an RPG. Could have been a great entry point.
>>739893696Good, nothing added to media in the last 30y was put there for sake of the audience pleasure
>>739893696but that's wrong. look up battle tech story. it's the kind of setting where time is actually passing and shit is happening.
>>739893056This is a joke right? Millennials are the entire reason troon shooters exist
>>739893330Repairing it for a substantial cost>You finally found a single high tier gun that's as expensive as a mech>And it took hours to find because it's almost never in stock anywhere>Oh tee hee your arm happened to get lost in a mission? Now it's gone forever, spend hours searching for it again :DIt's essentially an MMO tier time wasting mechanic that shouldn't exist
>>739894710Don’t lose your arm then idiot
>>739891907You need to have dementia to enjoy turret sim games, anon.
>>739894592Millennials played original CS source, retard. All these zoomer shooters only got popular post fortnite era.>inb4 quakeA game that took skill to actually play fast well. None of these new age shit designed to play like a spastic with autoaim.You are braindead.
>>739894862>Just don't get hit once!Retard
>>739891907i'm not THAT old.
>>739894710Don't put shit you want to keep in areas that are likely to be destroyed. Mechbuilding 101.The upgraded weapons barely matter anyway.
how come nobody makes battletech plamo? seems like a huge missed opportunity
>>73989555690% of them are ugly as sin.
>>739895629That's the point.
>>739895556because they're not really a thing. I always got the impression bt minis were more accessories to play the games with rather than loving models.
>>739893637Blake said what!?
>>739895305You stupid nigger you don't have a choice with some weapons.
>tukayyidttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QffouI6OA00
>>739896694Clans should have won.
>Cool clan mechs don't show up till the end of the gameI know it's timeline accurate and all that but it still sucks
>>739896923Just start at a later date. What's the problem?
>>739891907I was born in 1999 and love BattleTech.What do I get?
>>739897073
>>739896730>got their asses handed to them by an up-jump telecom companynah
pic related is the only battletech game i've ever playedit was pretty good
>>739897073macross bootleggers
>>739895918That's where the second point comes in.Stop crying about losing 3 points of damage off an AC20.
>>739896984I'm doing the campaign
>>739893565I like both but I think Assault was a bit more fun while Warrior was a bit more tactical. It's like comparing Unreal Tournament to Ghost Recon. Both have their pros and cons. Assault desperately needs a sequel / remake but fuck zoomers are so filled with brainrot and capeslop.
>>739891907Because the universe is old as fuck and didn't get the same wide spread love that Warhammer did.I worked with a guy old enough to know ultima 2 by heart and he was the only person I'd ever met IRL that even knew battle tech existed, and he only knew about it because his m8s used to play it after class in high school.The mechwarrior titles are a niche game in a niche universe that's built for and supported by aging middle age men and a small subset of turbosperg zoomers that finally realized that big stompy death machine with big gun and loud metal is cool.
>>739897615You can rush through it and import your campaign stuff into a later career time period.
>>739891907We've lived long enough to develop good taste.Why would I play Modern Military FPS as some lame human guy when I could play Future FPS as a giant killing machine.
I never bothered with Battletech (even when I have the 2018 game on my library due to being part of a bundle) because I like Gundam and liked the latest Armored Core and I'm aware that Japanese mecha and Battletech are mutually exclusive.
>>739893637Nah we still have both Operation Bulldog/Task Force Serpent AND the FedCom Civil War to go through first before we reach Jihad. We COULD get Word of Blake stuff but that's still probably going to be post Refusal War content.Not to mention if we keep this up Mason will be in his 70s when it kicks off and his 80s when it ends.
>>739897785>Because the universe is old as fuck and didn't get the same wide spread love that Warhammer did.You have to wonder why, though. In many ways it's Game of Thrones in space with mechs.
>>739897874>FedCom Civil WarMy home destroyed by one crazy woman...
>>739897953>You have to wonder whyIP was mired with legal issues at the golden time period of 00/10s.
>>739895681What the fuck did the Blakists do to that Marauder? Is it a Celestial-modded MAD?
>>739897953like anon above said legal reasons, but also because the property is basically split into two. battletech and mechwarrior, tabletop wargame and tabletop rpg. fascinating part was how they interlocked.
>>739897837>I never bothered with Battletech (even when I have the 2018 game on my library due to being part of a bundle) because I like Gundam and liked the latest Armored Core and I'm aware that Japanese mecha and Battletech are mutually exclusive.Western mecha is walking tank.Eastern mecha is man in tank suit.Interesting in their own ways.
>>739897456This was mine as a 5-6 year old. Never finished it until decade or so later.Genuinely needs a remake.
>>739891907im in my 20s though
>>739898171nice. i'm not so sure about remakes, i fear they'd ruin the soul of the originals
>>739891907I am a 18 year old trans girl and I play this game
>>739893565These are the first Mecha games I ever played and the only MechWarrior thing I have ever touched and they were awesome. Loved the Mad cat
>>739891907The earlier Mechwarrior games are my favorite because they were designed more as a simulator rather than an arcade mech shooter.Mechwarrior 2's atmosphere is unmatched even today, and the soundtrack is top quality.https://youtu.be/JjyadOx2T0g
>>739898129>walking tankPeople forget that the light mechs speed around 160km/h. Faster and heavier than any tank in our world.
>>739898485Yeah, because they got longer legs than tanks in our world.
>>739898536>his tanks don't have legsLet me guess. You're from a third world country.
>>739897837That game is woke dogshit so you aren't missing anything.
>>739897746>Assault desperately needs a sequel / remakeSomeone is making a MechAssault fan game called 'Wolves' but it's incredibly ugly Unrealslop that runs like ass. He somehow got ahold of the original voice actors for it though.MechAssault 1 is apparently fairly moddable on Xemu and has a rebalancing mod that people seem to play regularly, as well as an overhaul of the horde mode.
>>739898990BT was way ahead of that curve.
>>739893565these games are why I play MW5 in First Person mode and make Redditdads seethe in rage
>>739898768It's not THAT deep in the periphery.
>>739898536>He doesn't drive a QuadVEE
>>739897837It's a good game.
>>739899324Shit game
>>739897837solid as a game, but they went overboard in some bullshit
How weird, I just started this game and saw a thread. I know some of the 'mech names and the basics because there was a Battletech pod center near me in the 90s but other than that I am new as fuck
>>739899440Find a Firestarter and fill it with lasers
>>739899554I was going to do that with a Hunchback but I'll give that a try too
>>739896694>challenge the Clans as last ditch defense>beat them at their own gameComStar has moments of brilliance when push comes to shove.
>>739899440Pro tip, when the guys from Rasalhague ask for your help the first time, start stocking up on as many big mechs as you can.You will thank me later.
>>739893482>zoomgroid shits ximself at the mere sight of an unrestricted mechlabkwab
>>739896694Fucking garbage channel.
>>739899821Did Kerensky use a mechlab? No he piloted a standard configuration.
>>739899956Canon loadouts are the way to go.Gamers have an aneurysm if they can't stack a dozen medium lasers in an Annihilator's legs.
>>739893256>Is that consequences of my actions? AHHHHHH! HELP ME! I'M GOING INSANE!
>>739900156"canon" loadouts are a dogshit secondary term all the "canon" loadouts aka variants from pre clanwars are phased out when clanners come with weapon configurations that actually make fucking sense and aren't put together by retards bullying periphery worlds running on 1400s tech. .
>>739899684Yeah, brilliant move there ComStar. How'd the clanners ever make it that far to begin with? Oh, that's right, you helped them with their entire invasion as soon as you met them. Yes, truly brilliant.ComStar are retards, as further evidenced by their natural devolution into blakists.
>>739897837>Japanese mecha and Battletech are mutually exclusive.Guess you've never seen the unseen.
>>739900730>Guess you've never seen the unseen.Well duh
>>739893565>Load level>immediately I'm stomping around blasting shit jump jetting and strafing causing chaosFuck simfags
>>739898990Most people aren't playing the campaign more than once, if at all. It's great for its sandbox mode.
>>739895556>>739895629Honestly this is probably a secondary side-effect of the Unseen fiasco, they didn't really want to get into copyright murk with their designs by becoming plamo adjacent.
>>739893565Based
Krazy Ivan was here. You didn't play it.
>>739893565>I FEEL IRRATIONAL>SO CONFRONTATIONAL>TO TELL THE TRUTH I AM>GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER
Anybody try playing Battletech with mods recently? Is the mod manager everybody programmed their mods for busted or am I stupid?
>>739898173>>739897073Saying this as a "fellow" '97... Just why?I was still caught by commercials for MW4 and Mechcommander but the endless misery of MWO and a period of contributing to Sarna and the wider fandom cured me of that illness.The tabletop kinda regained its footing a bit but the video game side is thoroughly rotten and dead. No one with money and skill is ever touching it with a ten-foot pole and PGI/whatver FASA founders worm their way into are never producing anything genuinely worth playing. BT vidya is from now on forever stuck in the same hell as shlock tabletop novels, shit that you can only stomach because you're already a Kpop-stan level of a blind fan.So how on Earth can you guys still bear it?
>>739891907It's mecha which already cuts out anyone younger than 30Even worse it's western mecha whose setting was primarily built for ttrpg and it spent decades pandering to 80's boomers whose entry to the genre was robotechThe fact this franchise is still alive and that these games even have a healthy player base is already a miracle in my imo (opinion)
What mods are you guys using with Mechwarrior 5 Mercs?
>>739902781If the new games were actually good it'd have more new players.Unfortunately, MW5 aren't actually 'mech simulators', they are 'arcade games' with an aesthetic.
>>739900854And let's not forget the most important part of EVERY building (and rock) being destructible. Warriorfags will never know the joy of dunking bridge chunks and boulders on top of smugass Atlas niggas who go from full health to exploding in just the right spot to take half his team with him.
>>739891907Poor man's armored core
>>739900553Retard.
>>739902936Laser Visual Tweak.Whatever cuts down on the travel costs.That's it.
>>739902936Merctech
>>739896923but clan mechs suck
>>739898990>>739900856so which one's the go to total conversion mod?i mostly just hope to fuck around in a succession wars era sandboxpreferably on levels where 70% of the time isn't spent on waiting for the computer to make its turn
>>739891907It's a 40+ year old franchise as there was a period of limbo for it after Mechwarrior 4 and the Mech Assault games where a lot of new gamers wouldn't have had any new games to get them into it. Then when they came out with MWO and MW5, it was mostly oldsters who new about it from before the hiatus coming back to it. Everyone else was just playing CoD.
>>739902936map tooltip modpurchase salvage modmech delivery mod cockpit glassmech headlightsthat's it i never tried mechlabs
>>739903698No that's your mom
>>739903135I will be honest I do not think any of the MW games are simulators. The older games have the excuse of being the best they could do. The newer games do not lean into any of it, they just seek the lowest common denominator and thus they gain no true audience outside the already dedicated.There is not going to be the 'Star Citizen' or 'Elite Dangerous' of MechWarrior style games because no one has the vision to do that.
>>739903797None of them they all fucking suck.
Alex Iglesias got laid off from Piranha Games after he was done with Chaos Reign.Wonder if that means no more new content.
>>739904091well thank youi wasn't sure i really wanted to to begin withi'd really, really love to play a Battletech tactics gameand HBS' BT scratches the fanboy itchbut let's be honest it's a mostly shit game
>>739903924>purchase salvage mod>mech delivery modBoth of these are broken as of the latest up date. YAML got updated but the DL8 stuff is funky. Clan internals are supposed to be untouchable but you can strip new clanmechs of their internals which lets you pimp out your inner sphere stuff super easily.
>>739891907I can't rationalize why, buy I associate these games with 3D Sonic fans
>>739904406>Both of these are broken as of the latest up date.yeah i should've mentioned that, i checked for an update after i was done with Chaos Reign in case i wanted to start a new playthroughbut there wasn't one for either
>>739904215Well he's the core artist but he's not the game director or anything.
>>739892519I'm just gonna keep a vanilla save on hand so the perpetual problem of the devs borking all the mods with each update doesn't affect me as badly.
>>739904406>Clan internals are supposed to be untouchableit's omnimech internals that are untouchable, not clan mechs in general
>>739899554i did that tooonly mech for which small lasers really work but goddamn do they work on the Firestarterpretty sure the energy weapon only variant is lostech in 3015, thoughalso there's a Vulcan that you can remove the jumpjets from and convert it to a decent laserboat, but i forgot which variant it is
>>739893707Not making it an RPG? It was already dipping its toes into being an rpg when it wasn't also being a management sim and turn-based tactics game. You even go through the Mechwarrior PnP origins creation at the start.
>>739904215That's BS
>>739904723I'll stop playing by the honor system them
>>739891907I'll be honest battletech just isn't all that good in terms of a setting or rules. The mechs are cool though, I guess.
>>739897953Because GW, despite their own amazing retardation handling the IP, have managed to consistently not have repeated big failures that cause their IP to be traded between multiple hands constantly like Battletech keeps having happen to it. It's more shocking that Battletech continues to live despite the many IP holders fucking it up so much they repeatedly have to sell it.
>>739899429Sumire is mai waifuFarah is a glowy and deserves deathKamea is hillariously incapable and lol lmao
>>739893985Yeah but the story always returns to the status quo HRE larp. Like the clan invasion didn't fundamentally change the setting now you just have house frost bears next to house steiner.
>>739904672i think even the IP owners admit he's the sole reason BT is somewhat popular nowit could be they think that now that he's nailed the core aesthetics, they can hire someone cheaper to do itor maybe there's some giga autist at Catalyst who didn't want him to sully his Blakist angel mechs
>>739897953Games of Thrones in space is the problem. Very little space for yourdudes. Character drama and modelling autism have very different audiences.
>>739905228You cannot rely on one mechanical designer for your entire IP. If Battletech cannot find other good designers, or a coherent director, it deserves to die.
>>739894710this nigga lol
posting BEST BOI
>>739905364where's the spaghetti hands
>>739905364That boy is stubbier than usual.
>>739905258>yourdudesjust be a mercenary?
>>739894710
>>739893256Should have considered your weapon placements better.Personally, I like making shield arms that carry no weapons, that are always presented forwards.
My dad used to play these games a lot, and he's in his 60s
>>739891907I'm 32It's great, and continues to surpass my expectations when it comes to the ideals and realities of mech warfare.
>>739905442Yeah but then you're limited to being a mercenary with maybe a neat custom paintjob. Compare that to the insane variation just among canon Imperial Guard regiments where you have custom gear, custom doctrine, custom force organization.
>>739905567Now consider that your custom Imperial Guard regiment is now in the same boat as the guy playing a merc company in Battletech because GW has changed the focus from the setting, to a handful of named characters. Different setting, same old problems.
>>739894710anon the entire point of the entire setting is taking irreplacable technology and using it to wage petty local wars until everyone's fighting with sticks and stones
>>739904723ThisOmnimechs are the weird goobers of clantech.Everything else is pretty finely interchangeable.
The concept of a Mech as a fighting vehicle is very shitty. So many points of failure and there's no reason they need to have human features. It's hard to take seriously when you really think about it. A swarm of cheap drones just has to blow both arms off most mechs and then its almost entirely useless.
>>739905634I agree, 40k peaked in 3rd edition.
>>739905567Mercs that are damn near political bodies with a nation aren't even that weird in battletech. It's 100% in character to have a merc unit that just lives inside Capellan space, that is regularly integrated into Capellan tactics and strategy, or whatever the fuck else you want. If you're that worried about it, go Canopus. Literally anything goes for Canopus. Even if it doesn't make sense, it actually makes perfect sense; it's a Canopus content creator filming themselves as a meme for vast sums of catboy ass and space cocaine.
Is there some way to play the mackie weapon trials either on tabletop or pc?
>>739905764I cant hear you over the sound of my stalker.
>>739905764the neat thing about Battletech is that it had a satisfying answer to every issue brainlets tend to bring up 30 years agoread the sarna.net wiki if you're curious
>>739905936I find it amusing that the Mackie is the canonical first true battlemech, and instead of being boxy like a lot of modern designs became....it's incredibly round. He's a fat boy if there ever was one, and has the weapon loadout of a mech 25-40 tons lighter than itself.
>>739905906I've never heard of a pure tank merc company for example. Maybe it is mentioned in lore once but it's not very supported. The fact that the setting is focussed on only one military branch really limits it.
>>739905936wait what's that on the left
>>739906126Maybe it's inspired by the M48.
>>739905364*hunching intensifies*
>>739906139It's a matter of ;1. the mechs are the big draw of the setting2. A merc company of just 4 mechs and the dropship carrying them is incredibly common3. The more tanks you put in the company, the larger the logistics chain gets just to move the materials, feed and pay the crew, and expecting clients to want to pay for all that shit when said 1 dropship merc company is offering better rates.
>>739906126Mackie is a shitbox by modern standards but that makes him so cool, it gives of the same vibe as a nissan cherry or a trabant
>>739905764This is considered and true in Battletech. Mechs are, in universe, the product of a failing political leader dumping one gorillion dollars into weapons development, then curb stomping an enemy patrol that the mechs cost several orders of magnitude more than, and then becoming a symbol of feudal "knighthood" of sorts that could impress common people.The most successful in-universe mechs are probably the Locust and the Urbanmech. The locust is among the lightest mechs, that is useful because legs and jump jets let your scout vehicle get into weird places. The Urbanmech is functionally a shotgun strapped to something designed to actually navigate urban sprawl, jump around street corners, and alakablooie you. Almost everything else is, simply put, less efficient than conventional armor, fighters, or even infantry in some cases, and mechs mostly exist at all because of the space treaty that says "no planet busting weapons, or we'll use planet busting weapons" that most people disdainfully agree to, because having planets to revuild after wars is generally considered a good thing. Unless you think you can get away with it. Clanners view war the way people view sportsball, and have spent ungodly sums of money, resources, and manhours squeezing that last fraction of a percent out to be the best at their sport, then get consistently duped by people challenging them to a 1v1, then showing up with 6 guys with shotguns.
>>739906315didn't know the mackie's made of plywood
>>739906409Look at the armor values on the OG Mackie and tell me what material it is probably made out of
>>739906172Locust IIC
>>739906292And that's fully coherent. I'm just trying to explain my view on why battletech isn't that popular among mini gamers since the setting by its very nature doesn't offer as much in terms of homebrewing and variety.
>>739906473paper mache, love, hopes and gum
>>739906409I thought trabants were made from fiberglass.
>>739906617No even cheaper they used thermosetting plastic, the same stuff toiletseats, old telephones and the handles on pans and stuff was made of.
>>739906617the shell is made of some weirdo molded material that i'm 99% sure contains natural fibersbut my family only had the late series one with the four stroke licensed engine
>>739906501thanksassumed that was a ballistic weapon in the middle
>>739906473>20 tons of primitive armorhow much is that in real armor
Everyone is posting how the new jump jets let them go 200 kph or something but I can’t get them to do that, am I retarded?
>>739906370Thank you
>>739906370>Almost everything else is, simply put, less efficient than conventional armor, fighters, or even infantryYou are a complete and total retard.>>739908009Don't listen to that clown.
So I lost my AC10 on the first mission with the CenturionI am assuming I should restart
>>739907972the question shouldn't be if you're retarded, because you're here, but how do you fix your retardery
>>739908653>retarderyIt's retardation, something you're intimately familiar with.
>>739907972works on my machineit goes 200kph while you're flyingbut when you touch grass you quickly decelerate to running speed
>>739908591iirc it's going to be 1 or 2 more missions before you can find a decent industrial hub so maybethat mission isn't long
>>739908985Yeah, I just redid it. Lost my other arm with nothing in it this time instead
Did you clap?
>>739909717i'm too young to have watched the cartoon so i only recognzed the guy from the memes
....there are new mechwarrior games?
>>739893565how the FUCK is the ragnarok so cool
>>739900553They hated you because you spoke the truth.
>>739893256>>739894710Don't lose an arm if you can't part with the weapons in it, capellanigger.
>>739909880ok. thanks.
woah i'm fast nowon the other hand i noticed mechs stopping dead in their tracks sometimes and i can't figure out what causes it
>>739891907well MW5 at its core is ass because its mostly just a cheap asset flip of MWOnot that that's necessarily a bad thing I don't mind being able to play MWO in singleplayer and not having to put up with its grind and lobby stuffing but MW5 has completely braindead mission design and enemy AII want to like it but whenever I think about playing it I'm just reminded of how half assed everything is outside of what they could just reuse and I don't really feel like playing it anymorea handful of hand crafted missions every dlc pack isn't enough to make the game actually interesting or fun to play for very long when non unique missions just devolve into dropping more waves of heavier suicidal mechs at youthe HBS game could have been better if it wasn't hamstrung by unity making all the calculations take fucking ages and wasn't filled to the brim with nonwhites and awful millennial writing but that's 2018 for youa second game that runs better and allows itself to expand on its mechanics to feel more like a proper sandbox could be great but I wont hold my breath
>>739909860I DIG GIANT ROBOTS!
The mechs are ugly as fuck and all fight the same.
>>739893707>>739904774It's a shame this was spaghetti coded so hard. I think a vibe coded version would have been far superior at this point.>look into it>coded by a trannylmao can't make this shit up
>>739910210we dig giant robots
We made it to the big leagues, Jackie!
Three Atlases and a pet King Crab is all you really need. Maybe 3 King Crabs and regular Crab for the memes. Why would anyone bother with anything less when you have these cool dudes stomping around?
>>739910210>>739910259Nice
is Battletech basically just XCOM?
>>739910442No.
>>739910442xcom has puny humans and battletech has big ass mechs so no
>>739910478I mean... the videos look awful lot like it.
>>739910442No. It's less tactical than XCOM desu. But they both have the shoot this nigger and hope something happens mechanic.
So are LRMs just broken in the latest version of yaml? I can’t get them to lock on anymore
>>739910190>a cheap asset flip of MWOThe mechs here look 5x better than MWO.
>>739910523You're retarded.>>739910603That's what you get for using shitty mods.
>>739891907I just turned 30 last week though
>>739892824>>739892953>>739893482>>739899956>>739900156>>739903367Cucksole tranny melty
>>739891907>Make a gorillion mech models>Theres only a couple that are actually good all the rest are worthless trashwho thought this was ok
fuck i really thought they'd let you configure when lancemates ejectbut it's just on / off, they eject if they've lost most of their weapons
>>739910765ok.... I'll just replay xcom's.
>>739910926>only a couple that are actually goodWhat a retarded statement. I could take your Atlas in my Flea(because DEX>STR as everyone knows)
>>739895768>>739897073>>739897456>>739898479>>739902024Timber Wolf / Mad Cat my beloved
>>739910765If you’re not using the tools presented to make demonic war machines covered in guns then you’re playing the game wrong
>>739909717I didn't, because I'm not old enough to know that reference. I just came here to kick some Clanners in the teeth.
>>739911036>What a retarded statementits not retarded when doing missions i dont remember the names but the one that was heavy and had humanoid shape was so utterly superior to everything else it wasnt even funnythe game is garbage
>>739911092>still posting this retarded shit for antslmao
SO WHO'S YOUR MECHFU
>>739910442If by>XCOMyou mean turn based strategy game about taking aim at an enemy and wishing for the best with permadeath mechanics hoping your most valuable guy/mech doesn't fucking die after 2 random crits in a row then yes but if that's the case you could also call Mordheim an XCOM.Otherwise, yeah I guess it is similar, but with less large mods when compared to the XCOM franchise.
>>739902024how did he get up there
>>739910631Who the fuck cares how they look. The only thing that matters is if the gameplay isn't shit
>>739911082>Make a mech so good, it has 3 different variants>Even the Inner Sphere tried to make oneMadCat is up there with the Atlas for mechs that are the face of the franchise. I still like the cyclops best, but I get why people gravitated towards those most often.
>>739911312Vapor Eagle my beloved.....
>>739911362>Otherwise, yeah I guess it is similarYou're the kind of moron that thinks Mario Kart, Gran Turismo, Burnout, and F1 are all the same because they're """racing games."""
Where would you live in the galaxy, /v/?
>>739911082Gotta love it
>>73989190729 here, been into mechs and mecha ever since I saw Gundam and Evangelion two decades ago.I could jump to conclusions how it's possibly an engineering/tinkering thing that men usually get into after their 20s, like with boats only being interesting once you get older but I think it's just simply a small niche. It seems wild that it was ever mainstream considering how fringe mech media is compared to other things. Most people just go>huh cool, big robotand call it a day. I guess it's pretty much like any non-mainstream hobby, like painting models or photographing birds.
>>739911362>less large mods when compared to the XCOM franchis>lessBT has 3 overhaul mods while XCOM only has 2, Long War for EW and Long War for LWotC
>>739911587can i be a rich Capellan with a cute Chinese wife?
>>739911587Lyran Commonwealth is the objectively correct choice by all metrics
>>739911575Well, they are. If we want to claim that at the end of the day these games aren't ultimately about reaching the finish line first with varying degrees of being close to- or far from reality, then we'd be delusional.Just because subgenres exist, doesn't mean grander categories stop being a thing.>XCOM only has 2I meant the entire franchise, old XCOM included with overhauls like Xcom Files or Piratez, but admittedly I only knew of BTA and BTE. Didn't knew there was a third, I'll have to check up on other mods and maybe install the game again.
>>739911428What exactly is the antennas extending out of the cyclop's back supposed to do? It always sort of bugged me because it looks easily destroyed by a stray bullet.
>>739912716>they are
>>739912886i don't understand that image, that adult female human appears to be white
>>739912798Canonically, the Cyclops was supposed to be built as a command mech that allowed battlefield commanders direct entire battalions of battlemechs. That lasted until Amaris Civil War and it turns out the base model Cyclops can only exist in a world where your supply chains aren't constantly being blown up. Shorter version is it's the complex command and control suite it's got to tell other people what to do.
>>739910180If you are running vonBiomes it causes pathfinding issues with mechs, with it getting worse the lighter the mechs are. I blow up any obstacles that get them stuck, but sometimes they just get stuck on nothing.
If you want a game like MW5 but even more polished I highly recommend DOOM Eternal. They're both focused on shooting and are very similar.
>>739903797BTA is pretty good. Don't touch Roguetech.
>>739912716 (Me)My bad, also meant for >>739912360
>>739893565If we still got games like this Battletech would actually be popular.
>>739911871*slam* BattleTech.
>>739912798The Cyclops is a command mech. The original versions also came with a battle computer and some even had a detachable mobile field base. However, during the succession wars, most of the extra goodies became lostech. The regular cyclops suffers from light armor because it has a large engine to make it fast for an assault mech.
Nobody under 30 gives a shit about mechs
>>739913209hmm, it could be that
>>739913263>From MW5 to DOOMMaybe if you replace all the weapons in DOOM with laser pointers... that has 10 second battery life and needs to recharge for 5 seconds each time.
>>739913568what else is there to care about?
>>739913886You shoot stuff in both of them. They're basically the same game.
I just finished my XCOM 2's Legendary difficulty run recently. Should I go back to Battletech? It's been a while. I was using the BTA mod back then.
Was the Clans game any good?I either stopped paying attention or there wasn't much for people to talk about because I barely heard anything about it post release
>>739893565>>739913383>bounced back to play MA1/2 again after eons of mech5>realize the destruction effects are actually pretty well done and that building lights flicker and shut down as they take damage and get fucked up>blast away sections of structures and the whole things come down with enough punishment>there are glowy heatsink strips on the mechs that actually glow as you run them hotter>MA1 has some location based limb-removing damage features>MA1 would've had a mechlab but they had to cut it for simplicity>emulated MA2 makes it clear that dave scully/sergeant johnson did lots of the mook voice rolesi really wish i could find the demoreel that sold the premise of mechassault in the first place, the story might have been kind of ass because it was basically the worst time to be doing any BT story at all but the concept of a more fluid action-based mechgame isn't bad>>739913886mechdoomer exists for this sort of thing anywayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f1R-VIE2zY
>>739894592Millennials aren't the reason anything exists, you absolute faggot. There are two and a half generations of people above them who determine whether or not they get employed, stay employed, and what they have to do while employed. They won't have a say anywhere in any professional field until Gen X is out of the seniority positions and they're only in their 60s. It'll be at least 30-40 more years before Millennials are responsible for anything.
>>739914179Each clan dlc is just a 8-12 hours long story focused campaignIt's good for what it is but there's just not much to talk about
>>739891907In mechwarrior's case, the only draw is the IP, the game itself is mediocre at best. PGI is a pretty shitty dev team. HBS Battletech is decent, but someone who isn't into BT is less likely to get into it.
>>739914190>mechdoomer exists for this sort of thing anyway>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f1R-VIE2zY [Embed]Too anime. What is that gundam doing zooming around like a superhero? Probably made by brown hands.
>>739914498>Doom mod for Battletech>Even has Bitchin' BettyWell, I wasn't expecting to see this today. A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
Perfect timing still going through my first run of all the DLCs after restarting post-campaign. At what point do I need to have multiple lances ready for back to back deployments? I'm about to start RoR
>>739911587CanopusI want my dommy mommy owner and catboy co-husband
>>739914498subarashii
For me, it's the Firestarter. Cute little mech that does backline busywork, assrapes infantry, and weird odd jobs that nobody else wants to do, but are critically important.And occasionally goes in like a feral chimpanzee and disembowels something that outweighs it by double.
>>739915157imo The Dragon's Gambit is the first one with a very tight deployment schedule.
>>739915564the usual pipeline for mech development is>here's a very well thought out specialist mech that poor and desperate successor state will downgrade and push into a generalist role where it sucks assbut the Firestarter is more like>here's this cute mech that some sick bastard wanted to use exclusively for committing crimes against humanity but if you give him an array of normal laser weapons it'll become an excellent frontline fighter
>>739916076>excellent frontline fighterAs a light? In your dreams.
>>739915623Cool I've kinda just been keeping two lances ready just in case but I guess I'll need a third or 4th by then
Wish I still had the energy for involved soloMekHQ campaigns like I used to.
>>739896694only thing i dont like about that channel is how much he trys to MEME comstar like 'THEY ARE JUST GENERIC X COMPANY" yea a company that has all the highest tech you can imagine. that every other MAJOR fucking faction cant even come close to competing with. Controls the most important technology in the galaxy and has access to all communications. But yea guys totally just a MEME X generic corporation. Also why the fuck does nobody have the balls to make a BT game with infantry and vehicles and meks all from the get go? >>739895681shit like this is what i want to see in game.
>>739903797DO NOT play rogue tech. its handled by literal fucking mental children who think changing one line in a fucking notepad ++ is to advanced for your pleb brain. They also are retarded and autistic enough to think forcing you to play with the same mech 100 + times to get "accustomed" to said mech is normal. thats right. these fucking idiots actually think surviving 100 battles = you are accustomed in a universe where people die on average in their first or second battle. BTA or anything besides rogue tech
>>739893323for me, it's merctech
>>739917125The great shame about the wonder of the hunchlegged jenturion and all the things like it is that larger mech limbs are stuck with the armor limits of the mech those limbs are stapled to, which essentially means this thing is made of paper and has a hitbox a few postal codes larger than before.
for Free Rasalhague Republic!!
>>739917125clannerkeks fear this
>>739914190>mechdoomer exists for this sort of thing anyway>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f1R-VIE2zY [Embed]just tried it and it's fucking incredible. piranha games should be paying this guy
>>739916898Infantry are a big meme. There's a reason why MW3 opens with Clanners playing with footsoldiers.
>>739904774Yeah but it was really half baked. Quality of writing aside, none of your choices led to anything major. It was just an easy way to tell the bulk of the story through text boxes.
>>739918034Infantry got SRM and LRM launchers, and even man portable plasma cannons. They are in fact quite deadly when used correctly. that infantry was fighting on open terrain its no suprised they were destroyed. had they been in the city ruins they could have destroyed the meks
>>739899429I'm not saying this as praise for the game, but the characters are fun if you go by the fan interpretations: Darius is totally incompetent but masks it with confidence, Farah is a ROM agent who's always one call away from dropping the act and overloading the ship's reactor, Lady Arano is a terrible leader with good publicity, ect.
>>739918034Infantry with field guns backing mechs will rape you.
>one side sends a bunch of mechs down from orbit>other side just sends a bunch of bombs down to where the other side send mechs down from orbit
>>739918360Unlike you I've played the tabletop and no one likes dealing with infantry.It takes a big faggot to see a vehicle focused game and say>gee i wish i was some loser running around with small arms!
>>739919152I mean, that's what Brigador Killers is about, mostly. At least until they let us have the REAL heavy ordnance.
>>739919152"unlike you i played tabletop" oh wow guys. we got a super badass here. he played the tabletop with a group of people who only play with meks. Therefore clearly only his group is the same as everyone else on the world. your rprobably an amerigolem who thinks he won the korean, vietnam, afghan, and soon to be Iran war. non burger brainwashed countries know infantry won those wars even when USA had the armor and air advantage.
>>739905567Just insert as a random planetary military called on to defend your patron faction of choice
>>739919464Yeah and it fucking sucks and is shaping up to be a total downgrade from the first game. The first game being heavily inspired by the Strike series was a good call. Basing the sequel on the dogshit portions of a bad entry is suicide.
>>739919152I like it because I like experiencing the sense of scale first hand. A lot of mech games present you as a big guy running around a bunch of small enemies, but fail to display how these small things are actually still incredibly destructive relative to a human. Battletech games in particular are terrible at presenting scenarios that justify the existence of scouts or anti infantry mechs, let alone tanks or other non-walking vehicles. Meanwhile, several of the stories deal with infantry using anti mech tactics to some effect, and making them sound like interesting enough to base a whole game around. >>739919464It's never gonna happen, but I would love it if StellarJockeys got their hands on the IP. A lot of their fiction is clearly inspired by Battletech.
>>739920468If MW5 had implemented infantry as squads instead of individual little anklebiters that spawn infinitely, and with an equally infinite amount of SRMs to throw at you for chip damage, it would suddenly make the Vulcan and Firestarter more interesting. You'd see why all those flamers and machineguns finally have a clear use aside from crit seeking.
>>739916898>crysis modders kind of did it in 2009>meanwhile three flavors of PGI and HBSTech are all that we've gotten officially in the last 17 years>>739920468I keep thinking that something like the early GDL novels would translate really well into some kind of straightforward BattleTech action-adventure game complete with stuff like Grayson having to bossfight smallfry light mechs with infantry and combat vehicles before working up to stuff like the Shadowhawk. You'd lose on the breadth of the full BattleMech roster, but potentially gain in how well you can execute on a much more narrow and specifically defined set of mechs, weapons, etcetera.
Are there any Battletech vidya that could simulate the feeling of piloting an Imperial Knight?
I just got MW5 mercs and all the DLC. I know that Omnimechs are superior to standard battle mechs, so does that mean that they become obsolete in the game once I start getting omnimechs?
>>739920791mechwarrior 5 has a bunch different sizes mechs that you can run around as but it's only really mech vs mech + fodder
>>739921063Depends, keeping Omnimechs operational is significantly more expensive than standard battlemechs. Which can be a problem if you aren't doing so well on the financial side of things, but they do get more variety in their hardpoints thanks to the omnislots being basically "if it fits, it sits" mentality. Also holy fuck they're also expensive to buy or salvage, so don't expect to field all Omnimechs immediately. What you really want are the Clan weapons and internals. That shit is worth its weight in gold.
>>739920468>let alone tanks or other non-walking vehiclesConfirmed for not playing anything in the last 15 years.>>739920571It DID have infantry. Why are there so many people rushing to talk about shit they don't play?
>>739921063not exactly, they're more flexible in loadout and faster to refit/repair but if you have a normal battlemech that's you've customized into an unstoppable fuckotron it'll probably be perfectly finethe real dick-kicker is that when you DO hit omnimechs, they've got clan weapons that weigh less, do more damage, and have better range with case in point: clan LRM20 is 5 tons, normal is 10 tonsthat and the omnimechs will probably universally have double heatsinks and XL engines, the former of which is always better
>>739921217The infantry is a mod that the devs made, and it's a shit mod. It was an ATTEMPT to add infantry to Mechwarrior, and it wasn't a very good attempt.
>>739891907I'm a 25 year old boomer who got into it when I was a teen before the AGOAC kickstarter.>>739911587Kooken's pleasure pit
>>739921560Unlike those retards, I'm well aware. Infantry has no place in these games.
>>739915157Alright I think I'm in the back half of the RoR campaign missions. I can kinda understand why but every mission briefing is starting to have an anti-mercenary tone, like I actually wouldn't be surprised if Christian didn't pull into a tangent at some point to tell me that I'm one of the good ones. As someone who doesn't know much about the BT universe I get the feeling I'm missing something
>>739921701He doesn't go on a rant about how shit mercs are, but he holds a grudge against mercs canonically after shit some of the various mercenary companies hired basically abandon Rasalhague during the Ronin Wars. They took the money and ran.
How big is MW5 Mercs with all the DLC now?
How the fuck do you people play MW5 with those ugly dithered shadows?
>>739922057almost 100gb
>>739922057
>>739921984Huh him too damn. I'm just a few missions past miraborg making his big speech about never forgiving mercs as he was getting shot down but christian seemed so reasonable
>>739898171I would fuck that bitch on the right
>>739922340I think it's pretty reasonable to hate a profession that has a reputation for being dishonest.
>>739903797depends on how far you want to godespite this guy >>739913287 and his ilk, I tried roguetech and have found it to be just fine.
>>739921675Loved stomping infantry in MW3
>>739922846I think it's reasonable to hate them when you have shitheads like the Big Mac going around causing war crimes for Capellans. Only Kuritans are allowed to cause mass war crimes, they've even made mech variants specializing in it!
Fafnir my beloved.
>>739893565>>739891907So how's the squad AI in Mechwarrior 5? Because I heard they were total fucking retards which is a huge blackmark given you always have to manage said squad.Mechassault was fun. No squads there.
For me, it's the Devastator
Clans > Mercs
PUT LAMS IN I DON'T CARE HOW STUPID THEY AND AND I DON'T CARE IF YOU GET SUED.
Does Mech 5 finally have a sensitivity setting for the first person gameplay with the last dlc?What the actual fuck were they thinking?
>>739911082>>739911871>>739913470
>>739923663Clans actually has quite a lot of Mech repair bays in the levels so even though they throw 50 quadrillion enemies at you, you can get your health back. Mercs even in the new DLC missions barely does this and still throws an entire galaxy at you every mission.
>>739923663Why?
What the fuck is this shit?How steep is the timer now? It was already fucking annoying since CoA was also timed.
>>739923742They really should just include repair bays in the random missions as well. Sometimes, especially on higher difficulty missions, the enemy spam is fucking insane.
>>739904215>Alex Iglesias got laid off from Piranha GamesHonestly kinda glad? He had some good designs, and others are just butt ugly updates of classic designs. Theres new models for the table top that look so much better than the designs he made for Piranha that are in all the games now.
>>739923147They're braindead.A mod is required to make them semi-intelligent.
>>739923742i wish each clans campaign acknowledged that in each mission your Star destroys like 2% of the inner sphere GDP by the end. >>739923854games should have a beginning, middle, and an end and not be infinite procgen slop
>>739923147Not much to say about them but they can passable....with some micromanagement. Also they've been trying to make them better, but between their effectiveness being split between rank (Majors are infinitely better than Lieutenants) traits, skill, and even weapon groups...AI can either be shockingly effective or so pants on head retarded that they routinely lose valuable mech parts and take unnecessary damage. No, there is no middle ground with them.
>>739923742>>739924084at first I scoffed at the regen components mods would add to MW5 but I quickly understood why people would make them
>>739924234Is it this one?https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3693459386
>>739923147They've improved them somewhat in Chaos Reigns; but some of it is just that mechs handle better with the vectored JJs. Enemy lights that can jump will flank you, though whether or not they're doing it on purpose or not I can't say.They still won't torso twist like in TT_RULEZ and show their backs to you too often; but they're better than they were before. Allied AI has also done some surprisingly smart things in my play but I can't say I know for sure if they're doing it on purpose (on retreat on a guerilla warfare mission, my allied Spider followed the rest of the lance facing backwards to point its stronger armor at our pursuers because it was fast enough to keep up with the lance in reverse; legit had to double take when I saw it doing it).
>>739924570That's the one.Though as this anon >>739924790 said, they're getting smarter in vanilla.
>>739893323it's pronounced "mech", not "mech"
>>739926436Wrong, it's "mech"
>>739926436
>>739891907>Why is everyone who plays these games 40-60 year old boomer?Mechs are high test, they literally don't appeal to feminized faggots. Same with racing games and simulations in general.
>>739926436Ffs this is how I had to find out?
>>739891907>all the recent games have been succession wars to inital clan invasion>my favorite mech isn't produced until 3065I just want to overheat in my uziel alpha striking with ER PPCs is that too much to ask?
>>739929448Yes, because the last Battletech game to include the Uziel was MW4. I want to go back to the FedCom Civil War era.
>leave the thread for 2 hours>only 7 new postsSad.>>739929448It's in MWO.
>>739930206I mean its not like the dlcs for MW5 are anything really that spectacular that would garner much discussion
>>739931087They remade the batchall scene from the cartoon. That counts for something.
>>739891907Zoomer-filter games are the best. I've noticed lots of 90s PC games that get little mention in the influencer sphere are some of the best to talk about and engage with, since most people that are into them are based as hell. Picrel is another example of "You must be 35 or older to discuss."
>>739911312I'm enjoying the Griffin-2N currently
>>739891907zoomzooms can't handle games more complex than fortnite. They certainly have no interest in a game reliant on its universe lore for enjoyment.
>>739893565move over dumbass, this is Mechwarrior 2 simulationa aspect of said game of the best from the best 30 years ago.
>>739930206>MWONobody plays this shit. Its time to move on.
>>739931806the minute their influencer gods do a video essay on mechwarrior, they'll come flooding in and find a way to ruin it despite never actually played it.
So are Mechs with ECMs basically mandatory in late game?
>>739931806>They certainly have no interest in a game reliant on its universe lore for enjoyment.I've been playing the games for a quarter of a century now and I know sweet fuck all about the lore and universe and still enjoy them immensely. 2/3/4 and Mech Commander are probably my most played games ever, I haven't touched the tabletop game, read a few novels, I think I probably played like an hour of the CCG in high school when a friend brought in his older brothers collection of cards, but I couldn't give you an accurate summary of houses/factions/politics or timelines etcWhy was the Bushwacker only just added to MW5? I have no idea, i'm sure there's a good reason, but I literally only care that it was added and I will now buy your game.That's not to say there isn't a ton of lore and universe, you just have to look at the patch notes for any of the massive Battletech mods to know there is, but my point is the games absolutely stand on their own, all I give a shit about is simulation and strategy with big stompy robots and they've always done both well.
>>739909860The fact that CGL still hasn't canonized this is a crime.
>>739899684>>challenge the Clans as last ditch defense>>beat them at their own game>>most of the Tukayyid veterans got completely wrecked by Clans coalition durring Jihad
>>739932674because then it would mean canonising the blakist super atlas thats you fight while only half complete so it crawls around with its arms while GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER blasts over the speakers
>>739932896They already canonized the Dragoon Battle Armor. They'll probably say that the Dragoons made up some story about their encounters with it and that it's just a Wobbie mech with some experimental suped up Plasma Rifle.
>>739932567>Why was the Bushwacker only just added to MW5? I have no idea, i'm sure there's a good reason, but I literally only care that it was added and I will now buy your game.Oh shit it's real.https://store.steampowered.com/app/4371500/MechWarrior_5_Mercenaries__Chaos_Reign/Why is MW5 getting new DLC instead of MW5 Clans though?
>>739933169Clans didn't sell enough so Mercs is still their forever game.
>>739933169>Why is MW5 getting new DLC instead of MW5 Clans though?MW5 has 10X the active players of Clans. Honestly Clans probably would have sold better as a massive DLC for Mercs.
>>739933169>Why is MW5 getting new DLC instead of MW5 Clans though?What part of "Why was the Bushwacker only just added to MW5? I have no idea" did you not understand? I'm sure someone who understands the lore/timelines of the games could tell you, all I know is that I love the Bushwacker.
>>739931646the epitome of the medium mech. a tough fast 5/8/5 mech with an erppc and 2srm6. perfect.
>>739933169Because the cleans should have been a major expansion to 5. Clans also suffers from random crashing they don't care about fixing.
>>739931967you can get by with the 'realistic' one EWF mech with ECM, probe and C3Master per lance but yep, bad idea to have none at all.
>>739933169Clans is doing a a retell of few big-ass famous battles by novel narrative and strictly linear. Merc is like a single player MMO universe where you can pick or leave the above battles in battlezones or fight who you want. Guess what has has more legs for players?
>>739898990>Game takes place in the Battletech equivalent of the 3rd world>No white dudes on main cast>First time a white dude shows up pissed your crew shits themselves because he's from a real nation with actual power
>>739909717worth watching the cartoon? ive only ever seen compilation clips
>>739934345
>>739899429One of the earliest games I flat out remember claiming that there wouldn't be white people in the future.
>>739933323>Clans probably would have sold better as a massive DLC for Mercs.It might but it would have been way worse.
>>739919152>Gee, I wonder why the Flea and Locust both have Anti-Infantry weapons on it? Same thing with the Timberwolf Prime. It doesn't make any sense!One of life's great mysteries.
>had to redo nearly all mods for chaos>now some setting makes every enemy shit out UAV >they even stopped just hanging in the air and now bob up&down enough to evade passing laserstrafing>+1 target for every mech or hovertank clogging up your radarToo real, suicide drone spam when?
for me it's the Black LannerI'd love to have something with combined arms like Living Legendsalso waiting for Steel Bounty, the dev seems cool and said one inspirations is House of the Dying Sun
>>739934345if you've ever wanted to watch cartoon batchall man order the jade falcons to blow up an ostritch farm then you're in luck, it's like twenty minutes, twelve episodes and one clipshow of goofy satAM cheese that surprisingly follows an loosely serialized season-long arc, jank pacing asidehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLJM4vjMdhc&list=PLRlu7nBFPfe2DtSj1apNPNnGfMJbVhxBJ&index=1
>>739934604Try doing that at an actual table and you will get (rightfully) sucker punched.
>the cartoon is canon, in that its an actual cartoon from the battletech universe that kids there watched depicting the clan invasion
>>739891907I want to get into this series, Japanese seem to be the ones who produce the most mech games, but none of them are in the semi realistic category the battletech franchise is. I know the newest one, Clans, is incomprehensible for a newcomer, which one is the best to start with? Just after the release order? Mercenaries seems to be their largest game to date.
>>739891907I heard mw5 clans was better than mercs, and is more along the lines of mw2 (which I liked). is that true?
>>739899852jade falcon absolutely seething
>>739934981also, is the new mercs dlc any good and if so what did they change from vanilla?
>>739891907Because battletech is fake and gay and the only good designs were stolen from macross anyway. Only boomers can stand the level of diversity the setting has anyway.
>>739900156MWO has done irreversible damage to this entire brand. Dumb retarded kids think everything is an omnimech.
>>739935095It happened way before that but video games are the root cause.
>>739935095Agreed. Boating fucking ruins the game.
>>739920468>wonder about mechassault meets brigador>it's just modernized sega saturn mechwarrior 3050>think about other isometric battletech stuff>the painful leap from MC1 sprites to MC2's 2002 3DMan, MechCommander 2 has aged like milk.
>>739911312Thunderbolt, EZ.
>>739895556>how come nobody makes battletech plamo? seems like a huge missed opportunityI worked on some of the Titanfall toys back in the day (wish more of them had been released), and it's something that has been discussed a lot within the toy industry over the years, basically there's lots of concerns about IP/copyright that puts the japs off and understandably so.The IP is basically split three ways, vidya, tabletop and tv/film, and then licensed out by those three owners to other third parties who also have exclusive licenses over various aspects.But you'll note no one explicitly owns the rights to toys and to even determine that would be a lengthy and expensive legal process. Topps/Catalyst would *probably* have limited toy rights, but that would also complicate things with Iron Wind Metals and Microsoft & Co would also want a slice and anything to tie into the games.
>>739911312the raptor II forever trapped in mechassault 2 and jihad onwards
>>739935274>Man, MechCommander 2 has aged like milk.It was sour on release and borderline broken in a lot of respects.Desperately needs like a fan remake or an indie spiritual successor, MC2 (even modded) is rough as guts, but the core foundation is really solid and there's lots of potential there. I still play a lot of it despite it's failings.Was a few promising Battletech mods for Men of War back in the day as well, but they never moved beyond some really early prototypes. Same goes for an RTS Brigador mod. A real time with pause Brigador but commanding a lance would be fucking kino.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvT0SN4tcoU
>>739935040Biggest change for me is they added thrust vectoring for jump jets so now they don't feel like ass. You don't need any special parts its just standard on all jump jets now.
HBS Battletech is probably the worst coded game I have seen in my life. They should open source that piece of shit spaghetti mess and make people study it to know what not to do at university
>>739934815no. retard. everyone will laugh, because minmax waac faggots bringing gausswall lists are what is hated upon, you dumb know-nothing fuck.
>>739935738I knew about the memory leak issues but how bad was it?
>>739895556Licensing hell hole
>>739911312Luv me Locust. Luv goin' fast, an shootin' people in the back.It's my auto take when ever I play tabletop. Though it's started to receive stiff competition from my Warriors ever since we started adding in tanks an VTOLs into our games.Second place goes to the Wolverine. I've got one painted up in SLDF/Minnesota Tribe colors.>>739931646Griffin is a solid mech.
At least I'm not a filthy clannerscum who always go HURR DURR YOU DARE REFUSE MY BATCHALL
>>739935673>>739935040Beware that you might have to reset/delete your input config for the new jumpjet strafe/vector binds to appear/work. It's what I had to do, anyway. Neat that they basically made the advanced jumpjet mod into a stock feature though, even if it took like six and a half years for that to become a thing and more if considering vectored jumpjets were teased for one of the MW4 Mercs MekPak updates.
>>739935738>HBS Battletech is probably the worst coded game I have seen in my life. They should open source that piece of shit spaghetti mess and make people study it to know what not to do at universityIt's Unity, and a broken version of Unity at that, and yes it's absolutely garbage. One of the devs should quietly leak the source code so the community can unfuck it.I guarantee the community fixing it and making mountains of content for it would drive more sales than simply sitting on it will.
felt like playing some retro games before and this was one of them (via dosbox, in windows), still as good as always, I remember just using the burst all lasers option on one of the mechs just to nuke stuff. risk/reward but it basically guarantees parts gone or blowing them up entirely.
>>739935862Who owns Terra spheroid?
>>739935539Rusted Warfare had three or four decent BattleTech mods I remember trying a while back with a buddy, not exactly MechCommander but it was fun to go around conquering custom maps against the AI with a bunch of Leopards laying down fire support for a couple companies of whatever we scrounged up. A couple of them went as far as having infantry, vehicles, and aerospace while I think the other was a more stripped down version of the more polished of the two.
>>739935797is it. IS. they have never fixed any of the major fuckups. not one.you can have a 300 tb ssd, a dedicated 128 gb ddr5 gpu, and a next gen i500000000000 cpu or some shit nasa would kill you for, and the game will still hug down to death and end up using 100 % of your ram after playing a while, whilst save games will eat all your storage.
>>739935903that would require the trannies at hbs huffing their own farts admit that yes actually, their shit does stink, they fucked up.
>>739936195>Rusted WarfareI really need to grab that already as I keep stumbling across all sorts of great mods for it.Speaking of, the Battletech Total Warfare mod for Armored Brigade is bretty good.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3423329408Been keeping an eye on this as well.https://store.steampowered.com/app/3045070/MetalMercs/
>>739911082*Timber Wolf"Mad Cat" is what Spheregroids call it
>>739936402>MetalMercsYes. Good God, yes. I played the demo on a whim a year or two ago and I was instantly transported to when I was a babychild playing Crescent Hawk's Revenge.Can't wait.
>>739936317And retards still recommend shit like Roguetech that makes all those problems even worse.
>>739936367It's wild how much creative and technical damage that single tranny did to the game.
For me, it's Heavy Gear
>>739935274Even at launch MechCommander 2 looked ugly as sin. I don't blame them since everyone was chasing 3D at the time, but it's also the reason I never bought it. >>739937413I play BTA and don't suffer RAM issues like I did on vanilla. Between the load times and the glacial pace of the AI it's still very clearly not an optimized experience, but it's not a broken one either.
40k fans get showered in plethora of multi-media products while BattleTechCHADS suffer.
>>739939439Popularity only destroys IP, I hope Battletech forever remains niche. Seeing what has happened to Warhammer, DnD etc is simply awful.
>>739939773True. My previous post was half joking because I do enjoy 40k as well, but I've also seen what happened to 40k
Goddamn look at the hip sway on this fucking slut.>>739939993Let's not pretend battletech isn't infested with bluehairs as well.
The only reasons why i got interested in the franchise are Roguetech and Megamek
>>739940037like, 3/4th's of all the newest 'lore' or story shit that has 'happened' in BT is written by a psycho brainrotted commie who by pure coincidence, has two 'sons' that are mysteriously tr00ns/gay for no reason at all, certainly not because daddy buttrapes them.
>>739939439MechWarrior/battletech IP legalities are just way too fucked.
>>739897837It's all right, plays a bit like Nu-Xcom. I'd recommend getting the DLCs for cheap though.
>>739911416The gameplay is classic Mechwarrior minus going prone.
>>739933169does clans still run like shit?
>>739940860Yes and still crashes randomly.
>>739940860Yep, but just do what every simp in the steam discussions says>j-just turn on DLSS, bro! w-works on my machine!
>>739941110
Kodiak in Mercs when?
>>739941575>Kodiak in Mercs when?4 days ago in the new DLC.>New BattleMech Chassis - Incubus, Jenner IIC, Shadow Hawk IIC, BushWacker, and Kodiak>New OmniMech Chassis - Linebacker, Ebon Jaguar, Night Gyr, and Naga>New Clanbuster Com Guard Variants, Artillery-Capable Variants, and Clan-Tech Variants>New Weapon types - including Arrow IV Artillery, Light Autocannons, and X-Pulse lasers.>New Ground Vehicles and Battle Armorhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4371500/MechWarrior_5_Mercenaries__Chaos_Reign/
>>739897837>>739899324>>739899429>>739940521
>>739942234>Stomps you
>>739941780>>New BattleMech Chassis - Incubus, Jenner IIC, Shadow Hawk IIC, BushWacker, and KodiakUnironically might be the best DLC they've ever done.
Before the thread dies I just want to say elementals are cool.
BattleTech Gothic was the most pathetic, shameless attempt to try to capture the 40K audience that it actually made me embarrassed to be a BattleTech fan when they announced that shit.
>>739945280>tfw no elemental gf to cradle you in her arms and call you her "big boy"I wish there was better Elemental art desu
I will complain here about the overbuffed JJs. I haven't had the chance to play with Wolves of Tukayyid so I'm seeing them in Chaos Reigns, but regardless of the subtle differences this is absurdity. An assault with them can keep pace with fast mediums. It's no longer a feat to be able to DFA, you can Rider Kick basically on demand. Jumping out of danger is a valid use case that should be retained but the recharge rate means you can do this non-stop, and of course its way too fast. The acceleration has to be toned back and recharge rate nerfed if JJs are going to have this much power.
>>739945319I had unironically forgotten it even exists. Terrible idea executed even worse. Literal AI slop concept art would have come up with better designs than what they came up with.There's an insane number of things you could do with the IP as well so i've no idea how they landed on and then pumped resources into that of all things.
>>739891952Zoomers are boomers, too. Soon all will be boomer, even baby boomer. Planet boomer.
How rough do the later DLCs get especially when the clanners arrive? Even after I've gotten the tonnage limit high enough to field all assaults the longer missions have me sweating for my armor/ammo
They're really gonna milk Mercs as much as they can after Clan flopped and shitted
