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Name one Jedi or Sith who can beat him in a duel.
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I would wager obi wan could beat him.
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>>739916613
Ahsoka with Dave Filoni writing. OH HO HO HO!!!
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>>739916613
Anakin Skywalker.
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Pretty sure I saw punk ass Anakin Skywalker mog him
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>>739916613
Trans vader
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>>739916613
Darth Shitto
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>>739916613
didnt he get defeated by being thrown out a window
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>>739916613
This is the most bizarre Samuel's role by far. For some reason I can't buy him as a Jedi
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Sheev threw the fight sensing Anakin was near, he could have taken Windu easily
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>>739916963
No he parried it
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>>739916963
After getting his hands cut by Anakin, so much for Jedi master's premonition powers lmao
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>>739916997
Nope, Lucas himself confirmed that Palpatine was beaten and Windu was about to finish him off.
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>>739916613
Dooku would have mogged him. He barely let the dark side influence him so vapaad wouldn't have done much.
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>>739916885
Transvader sounded like it would be a cool title before troons became a thing.
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>>739916613
For some reason, that's his only role where I don't see Samuel L Jackson, but the actual character
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Mace is so funny because he really is one of the best, but he's not nearly as good as people make him out to be because they watched Genndy Wars as a kid or something. Anakin is the GOAT though and he mogs him
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>>739916613
Darth Chauvin
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>>739916997
Incorrect, incel.
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>>739917196
We don't sign our posts here.
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at least he isn't as much of a jobber as maul
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>>739916613
legends Luke
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>>739916613
In the extended universe, Dooku defeated him in a duel (I guess maybe twice?).
He himself says he isn't as good as Yoda.
We saw how Anakin was better than him.
They compared Obi-wan to him, but in practice, it is hard to say.
And these are just characters from the prequels that have pretty much confirmed their advantage.
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Me
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>soi wars
why are millennials obsessed with this mediocre franchise?
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>>739918486
same reason boomer suck the bible's dick
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>>739918372
EU isn't canon, incel.
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edgy mcedgeson himself
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Darth Maul maybe?
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>>739917072
Lucas thought Greedo shot first.
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>>739918809
OH
MY
SCIENCE

DARTH MAUL!!!!!!@@
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>>739916613
Would be easier to name all the ones who wouldn't beat him in a duel.
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>>739919115
wdym Hes the head nigga in charge and known as THE master duelist
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darth motherfucker
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>>739916613
Luke RAPES and GAPES that bitch.
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>>739919573
>Yoda regales Luke of a tale where he walked up to Mace Windu after an argument in the council chambers and calmly asking him "Working here nigger, enjoy it do you?"
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>>739916613
Rey Skywalker
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>>739919434
That's what it says on his space wallet.
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>>739916816
Snuck him, doesn't count.
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>>739918810
Greedo indeed shot first
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>>739920467
>snuck him
>what's precognition?
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>>739920284
Since she's all the jedi does that mean mace blacked her?
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>>739916885
I am way more triggered at Vader with a gun than I am at the colors.
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>>739918372
>He himself says he isn't as good as Yoda.
>Windu beat Sheev
>Yoda lost to Sheev
He's just being humble since Yoda is so well respected.
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>>739916613
Rey, if you ask Disney.
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>stands on the same planet as him
Mace dies.
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I believe that Mace legitimately beat Sidious.
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>>739917157
Movie purists are so boring.
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>>739917072
This. If you actually think known negrophile Lucas would have it any other way you're miserably mistaken. If anything it's actually pretty nice how even the power levels are in Star Wars. Like yeah no doubt Palpatine was the greatest sorcerer of his time, but he could still get owned and did more than once. This is why it's so stupid when you add fanfic moments where force users can crush whole ships or planets with ease; it totally breaks the relatively reasonable power levels in canon.
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Dabs on Mace. Dabs on everyone, really.
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>>739916613
Anakin disarmed him rather easily.
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>>739917157
The cartoon going full anime with Jedi powers really causes a lot of problems. There's a reason the force speed that Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon used in Episode I was never brought up again; it just breaks the story and makes you wonder why Jedi usually choose to be so slow. Like if Mace can just casually choose to crush Grievous' lungs then how the hell is a non force user ever going to be a threat to a Jedi? Rationally they have no defense against force powers.
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>>739916613
Dark [insert any word with a negative connotation here]
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>>739916991
>This is the most bizarre Samuel's role by far. For some reason I can't buy him as a Jedi

His lightsaber is the one that has bad motherfucker written on it.
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>>739916613
Jedi Dooku
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>>739916991
hes too angry and black to be a jedi. but I guess thats what the purple means.
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>>739918809
No way in hell. I doubt Maul at any point in time can beat him in a straight up fight. Maul is more clever, though (and suicidally insane).
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>>739922780
Crazy how Lucas is a manbabby who thinks fart jokes are funny but he also knows how to weave mythological language and Shakespearean themes into his work. If you ever mocked him for the "it's like poetry" line then the prequels are sincerely too deep for you. There's a lot of details you can easily miss and Anakin being a sincere moralfag who takes the code seriously is one of them.
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>>739923084
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>>739916613
Darth BANE?
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>>739923151
It really is the contrast between the genius and the retardation that gives the prequels their eternal glory. Is it a piece of shit made by a manchild who makes even more insane creative decisions than Kojima? Yes. It is genuinely the most epic tragedy ever put to screen? Also yes.
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Never got the cock sucking this guy gets. If the 2005 clone wars cartoon was still canon, I would understand, but his current version does absolutely nothing of value until his palpatine fight.
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>>739923018
Is this from the revenge of the sith novelization? Im reading it right now
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>>739923310
To be fair, there's practically nothing of real value that happens in the Clone Wars. Windu was the best at fighting a fake war, you get told he has a million military achievements but we know none of them matter.
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>>739922237
It was a cheap shot
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>>739923018
fanfiction
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>>739922403
Who was that nigga anyway? Will we see him again in a sequel?
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>>739916885
Is that fucking Destiny 2? lmao wtf
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>>739923151
George is funny because he's clearly well read and has an appreciation for art, and has a lot of things to say about spiritualism and the nature of humans, even filtered through a kid's movie series, but at the same time he pitches "Darth Icky" and "jizz"
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>>739923310
>why do people still like this character? don't they know a corporation signed a piece of paper that erased his past history and achievements?
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>>739916750
Probably. Obi-Wan pretty much counters his form which he trained after Darth Maul killed Qui-Gon. Which is probably also the only reason he defeated Anakin who also uses an aggressive form that utilizes emotion.
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>>739923639
Motherfucker retard that was EMBO he's in the clone wars.
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darth insanius
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>>739923816
The fuck are you talking about? The 2005 cartoon was deemed noncanon when the newer clone wars show replaced it under Lucas. Dumbass.
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If Mace actually won and killed Sheev, what was the next step of the jedi master plan?
From the movie it didn't really feel like the Jedi had enough evidence to convince the republic that their assassination of the extremely popular supreme chancellor was justified.
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Why didn’t Maul swing upwards?
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>>739923693
Darth Icky and Darth Insanius were clearly George's way of saying "fuck off, he doesn't get a Darth name" given his lack of one in the release.
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>>739924004
The Jedi go to space jail but find this preferable to a society ruled by a Sith Lord.
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darth slurper vs darth mogger
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Palpatine and Anakin already beat him
Probably Obi-wan
I mean we never even see what this nigger can do in the movies
Hell I’ll take kit fisto over Meme Shitdu. Oh wow he made an angry face while fighting palpatine. Get thrown out the window bitch nigger
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>>739923693
"Darth Icky" was him telling The Force Unleashed devs to fuck off. Jizz is just him knowing that "jazz" and "rock n roll" were sexual innuendos to begin with
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>>739917170
Kek!
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>>739924004
No plan. They are already fucked by then, everybody hates them or fears them. But even having the Jedi Order outlawed would be better than a Sith Lord becoming emperor.
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>>739924004
They probably hope that Sidious was brainwashing people and that they would go back to normal.
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>>739920467
But if a nigger sneaks someone it counts right?
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>>739924004
Nothing

It’s another example of bad writing. At the beginning of the movie they should’ve already been suspicious of Sheev and Obi-Wan should’ve collected evidence along the way. Maybe they could’ve convinced one of the Nemidians or some captured Separatists to testify against him and then Palpatine orders Anakin to kill them after Windu dies as revenge
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>>739923449
It sure is.
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>>739923084
>>739923258
>Shakespearean tragedy that riffs off from Caesar and other works
>At the same time George Lucas wanted to sell toys to kids while heavily marketing his CGI studio, thus the shoehorned CGI in every scene or scenes that needed context had to be cut because there was no CGI.
kek
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>>739924428
Suck my dixk you brown faggot
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>>739924287
Please tell me there's a verbose passage where he explains in elaborate terms that he is, in fact, the Senate.
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>>739923182
for you
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>>739924273
In the novels surrounding Revenge of the Sith, the Jedi were able to capture Nute Gunray's robot chair and were able to pinpoint Sidious's transmissions to the area beneath the super apartments where Palpatine lived. The attack on Coruscant was engineered because the Jedi were about to be able to tie Palpatine to Sidious.
Laughably the books also say that the Jedi do not suspect Palpatine of being Sidious because "he already runs the Republic"
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>>739924287
>Even if I were this hypothetical Sith Lord, which I am not, you couldn't arrest me as our democracy allows for freedom of religion
how do you respond without sounding mad?
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>>739924490
It's presented as an audio recording that Palpatine recorded during the arrest to present to the Senate of evidence of the Jedi betrayal.
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>>739924571
Clearly the Sith were promised their Empire 3000 years ago, there's nothing more to discuss.
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>>739924004
I assume that someone like Tarkin would have probably ended up assuming the role of Supreme Chancellor. They might even make the republic go full dictatorship...but none of them can make it the Empire

The Jedi are outlawed and probably fuck off to the ass end of nowhere or something, I guess.
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>>739922367
Well apparently all those other Jedi's force powers weren't good enough to hit Grevious. They were spamming all kinds of force powers and kept missing. Mace might just win due (heh) to power scaling.
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>>739917150
Its the only one where he's not playing the exact role with a different name. Well that and the one where he was that Uncle Tom.
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>>739924004
The multiple Jedi killed by a lightsaber plus it being red would be pretty convincing evidence of him being a Sith Lord.
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>>739923151
George is terrible at writing dialogue, but he's an excellent cinematographer.
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>>739922367
>Like if Mace can just casually choose to crush Grievous' lungs then how the hell is a non force user ever going to be a threat to a Jedi?
It's explained in that cartoon. To use the Force requires focus, Grievous ambushes his enemies and frightens them, they can't focus and use the Force accurately or even at all when a 7 foot tall cyborg drops from the ceiling and spins 4 lightsabers in their faces. Bounty hunters use flamethrowers against Jedi for this reason too. If you facing a true master like Dooku, Windu, Obi Wan then yeah Grievous is fucked since you can't shatter their focus but against anyone lesser the element of surprise is a great equalizer
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>>739924881
The color-coded lightsaber thing is pretty silly when exposed to excess scrutiny. The fact that they tried to make in-universe explanations for it is even sillier.
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>>739924320
I don't think he just wanted to sell toys, he's also very passionate about visual effects as an art, and wanted to push them forward. This is common in a lot of fields. Like vidya, every time devs get a new toy to play with they put it everywhere, even when its really out of place. Like bloom. Remember in the 2000s when every game was desaturated with shitloads of bloom. That's because it was a brand new hardware feature and every dev got a visit from the bad idea fairy upon learning this shiny new visual effect was extremely cheap to implement
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>>739916613

takes me back...
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>>739923258
George is an autist who became too rich to be tamed by any handler. He and Kojima are cut from the same cloth. That is autists suffering from success.
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>>739923310
Most of /v/ dislikes the 2008 series and prefers the 2003 one.
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>>739917150
>>739924792
He has range, but every other director goes
>we got the black guy from Pulp Fiction and simply wanted that character
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>>739924004
They were going to seize control of the senate and the courts to ensure a peaceful transition of power. Basically a Jedi coup and military dictatorship until the Republic accepted that Sheev was a Sith lord.

The movie really should've communicated this more clearly, it gives a lot more justification to Anakin killing all the Jedi, since it places him in an us or them situation with Padme and Palpatine.
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>>739916885
holy pozzkino
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The only thing we can all agree on is that B1 Battle Droids are what perfection looks and sounds like.
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>>739924273
>At the beginning of the movie they should’ve already been suspicious of Sheev
They were. They were already gathering evidence against him before they knew he was a Sith and were discussing removing him from office, forcefully if necessary, during the meeting scene. That's also why they asked Anakin to spy on him.
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>>739924004
Find and collect irrefutable evidence connecting Palpatine to the Separatists. After getting a moment to breath, Mace probably gives Anakin something to distract him, like gathering the senators like Padme and Bail, them he starts snooping for evidence around the office, maybe he sends more Jedi to follow up on the lead at 500 Republica.
They didn't have any evidence, the entire thing was Mace metaphorically shitting bricks at the fact the Sith Lord had sat across from him for thirteen years and he was never the wiser. Literally just "kill that motherfucker now, deal with the fallout immediately after."
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>>739925343
They were comical genius in the Prequels. I hate them in TCW.
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Mace Windu was clearly tapping into the dark side during his battle with Palpatine and it's supposed to symbolize that even if the Jedi won out in the end, they would eventually become corrupted as well.
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>>739925031
The old explanation of "the sith ones are industrial diamond crystals because those are easier to get and they don't have a religious reason to use real ones, unlike the jedi" works well enough. But it doesn't really need explanation.
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>>739924571
I just know he was saying that with a shit eating grin.
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>>739925474
>they would eventually
They already are. The Clone Wars broke something that had been decaying for years. Sheev or not, the Order badly needed reform, which Luke is supposed to do (let's ignore the sequels).
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>>739925640
He's extra cheeky with the Jedi in the novelization.
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READ
READ
READ
this if you like ROTS. It's the better version of the movie, based on the original script, includes lots of stuff that was cut and expands on what is there.
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Nigger mad…
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>>739925134
Is this game actually good? I always heard reviewers calling it mediocre.
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>>739922780
This makes no fucking sense though. He disagrees with windu's decision to kill palpatine because it's "not the jedi way", so he chooses to kill mace? You're reading too much into it.
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>>739925254
These guys are way cooler than the Clone Commandos in the video game. Just by looks alone.
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>>739925762
I mean they're kinda supposed to be. According to lore ARCs are the superior breed.
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>>739925668
Matthew Stover is the real highlight
Reading through New Jedi Order currently, and Traitor is flat out one of the best, most thought provoking books I've ever read, let alone one of the best Star Wars books.
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Is the GBA Version of RotS good?
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>>739925749
More meant for >>739923084
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>>739925450
I think they hammed it up in the Clone Wars, but the idea of incompetent wagie battle droids is pretty funny.
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>>739916613
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Rate his fit /v/
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>>739925749
He kills Mace because he cannot allow Palpatine to die, in case he has the knowledge required to save Padme's life. He's desperately appealing to the Jedi Code in an attempt to keep Palpatine alive. He wants the Jedi to confine Palpatine where he can still find out what Palpatine knows.
Failing that, he chooses Palpatine and his potential knowledge over the Jedi Order .
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>>739925474
The Jedi were already extremely corrupt. That's the reason the whole Sheev thing happened. The Force had abandoned them, taking away their ability to see the future and sense danger, and taking away their protection by its control of fate.
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>>739925892
posing in front of the giant NIGGER painting sure was a choice
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>>739925892
Fuck off that man is not in his 80's, I don't believe it.
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>>739925660
Its great to see Palpatine still chews the scenery, regardless of medium. I love how happy he is to be evil.
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>>739925816
There's a reason they did a special edition of the book. He's probably the best thing to happen to the EU.
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>>739916613
Anyone piloting pic rel
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>>739925935
George knows
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>>739925892
Did he shave his whole beard? He looks off without it.
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>>739925749
He kills Mace because he realizes the Jedi are full of shit. They're hypocrites who don't follow their own code, so why should he follow them? The Sith may be killers, but they're honest with themselves about it, and he thinks Palpatine is being honest with him about his intentions for him.
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>>739925804
I imagine that wasn't in the lore when the cartoon and game came out. Was that from a comic?
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>>739925983
There's a certain kind of person that's 80 at 60 and never ages beyond that. Ridley Scott is another, the man looked like 50 when he was 30 but now he's been looking 60 for 20 years.
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>Mace Windu
>fall from the window
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>>739925749
He panics and cuts Windu’s hand off because he thinks Palpatine could keep Padme alive

Sheev is the one who actually kills him. The retarded part is afterward Sheev basically admits he was just bullshitting and then asks Anakin to kill children. If Anakin was actually evil at that point you’d expect him to kill Palpatine in a fit of rage for being deceived
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>>739925826
I've heard it is. Never played it myself, but I always hear good things when its brought up. The DS version is the same, except it has a 3d flight minigame between missions.
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>>739926127
Based on books that came out right after the game.
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>Dave Filoni when he sees a beloved EU character
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>>739926196
I just finished this for the first time and really liked it.
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>>739926196
So does it say how the Arc troopers are superior or why they made two different clone super soldier programs?
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>>739926229
Same. I know some people dislike it because it tries its hardest to be real military fiction and is very far removed from space opera (author was in the navy and comes from a military family) but I love it. The franchise has "Wars" in the title, I think a bit of pure soldier action is fine.
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>>739926307
I like how the EU experiments with genres types. I read Red Harvest before this and thought it was a good horror novel. The movies should be the adherents, let things go a little crazy on the genre typing elsewhere otherwise we wouldn't get a lot of what we have.
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>>739926306
ARC troopers are supposed to be Clones of Jango Fett who haven't had their individuality genetically stripped away and undergo Mandalorian training. They are essentially each Jango Fetts, while Clone Troopers proper are drones.
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>>739926306
>So does it say how the Arc troopers are superior or why they made two different clone super soldier programs?
Basically clones aren't 1:1 Jango, they're bred to be more obedient. Commandos less so than normal clones and ARC are almost entirely exact copies of Jango, minus the fast aging. The idea behind making them less obedient is that they're more capable of making their own decisions when necessary. They also undergo different training.
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>republic commando
>all the commandos were originally the same, all plain white
>george comes by pretty late in development and says they should be painted differently
>delta squad is instantly iconic
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Reminder: the Chosen One can beat up your favorite Sith Lord.
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>>739926652
What if my favorite Sith Lord is Vader?
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>>739926429
So did they have too many Arcs go AWOL and decided they could make do with commandos instead?
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>>739926693
He gets dogwalked by Anakin
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>>739926693
No one fucked Anankin up harder than Anakin himself.
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The skywalker line is cursed because of padmé. They can't stop either being evil or marrying evil women. I think Naboo women are the problem.
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>>739926306
You do need exceptional clones to lead the more rank-and-file ones or perform covert operations. Even if theres thousands of jedi you still have millions upon millions of clones and even that feels like its underselling the real amount, when theres trillions of lives at stake in the galaxy.
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>>739926707
ARC troopers are commandos, it's in the name kek
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Star Wars is so ass now a movie about a 4chan post with some crusty ass room that gets adapted into a movie is making more money
this shithole is more profitable than Star Wars
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>>739926652
>believes in the good in you
nothin personnel kid
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>>739926409
>>739926798
I'm talking about Clone Commandos and Arc troopers, not regular clone troopers. Regular clone troopers aren't supersoldiers, unless you count super obedience.
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>>739926845
Yeah, but they're not the same type of commandos as the ones in Republic Commando. I'm asking why they have two different varieties of commando clones made in entirely different ways.
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>>739926926
Regular Clone Troopers are still peak humans (as clones of the baddest dude they could find), they're just supposed to be retarded and take orders. TCW changed that but whatever.
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>>739926043
I love that book. I bet it's impossible to get that version.
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>>739926043
>This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker, forever...
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>>739921420
Yoda would dog walk him.
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>>739927003
Ok, but that's a side issue and not really the focus of the question.
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>>739927087
No idea where you live but here in Europe it's in stock at Amazon. It's 50 bucks.
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>>739924004
Best case scenario, throw Mace Windu under the bus and proclaim he acted out of line and against the order and have him and only him imprisoned forever. Mace wouldn't like it, but he wouldn't be against it either if that's the best solution, whether the entire religion undergoes a shakeup or a political restructuring is up in the air because Dooku led an entire civil war as a former Jedi and that didn't make the Republic try to do anything to the Jedi Order anyway.
Worst case scenario Jedis get declared illegal and are pushed out of the Republic and will only be openly allowed in places where the Republic's juristiction cannot or will not reach, and in time they will either be integrated back thanks to time and their good deeds or they will become their own government and rise as a neighboring nation to the Republic.
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>>739926983
The special force squads of Replubic Commands were Kaminoan trained while ARC Troopers were trained by Jango himself and then later trained by latter generations of ARC troopers with Mandalorian training drills. Kaminoans wanted consistency because ayylmao autism, basically due to Jango being dead and all, while there's uncertainty surrounding 2nd or 3rd generation ARC troopers training each other. But depending on bio-chip bullshit, in pre-bio chip days almost every commando whether they were ARC or Kaminoan trained had the same disobedience in them. As in, they were hardline Replublic, disobeying Order 66, and either defected or fought against the Empire, with very few folding into the 501st.
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>>739926926
>Regular clone troopers aren't supersoldiers
No one said they were. ARCs are Jango Fett 2.0 and have undergone special training. There's a reason Jango was chosen for the clone army, he's really, really good. Normal clones are held back by their programming and lack of Mandalorian training, all they get is simulations. Commandos and ARCs get training that not everyone survives.
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>>739927628
Wait, but the commandos in the game were made before Jango died. Also what about the Imperial Commando novels, don't the commandos in that go Imperial, hence the name?
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>>739927629
Anon, I know that. I'm asking why they have Commandos and ARCs as two separate and distinct kinds of special super clones.
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>>739927338
I just looked it up. 55 bucks on Amazon.
It's my birthday soon so I'll grab it as a birthday gift.
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>>739927735
>Imperial Commando novels
yeah, those were the ones who were folded into the 501st.
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>>739927194
pure kino. Wish he had written more for the EU.
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>>739927194
>yourself is all you will ever have
>the shadow is all you have left
Pick one or the other, Anakin.
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>>739927782
Not him bit arcs tend to work alone, commandos are more geared for small groups. That's the main distinction I've gathered. I also am pretty sure that while both arcs and commandos are more individuals than regular troopers, ARCs are completely independent. Which I'm not sure is the same for Commandos.
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>>739918486
Why do you children constantly lose your dog-fucking shit over anything older than the MCU?
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>>739916885
>Ack Gayder
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>>739925450
I like this earliest depiction where they're 'good enough' at their job but kinda retarded, exactly what you'd expect a battledroid made on the cheap would be like. Like the battle against the gungans they're perfectly fine but in these situations where they have to make a judgement call they're not.
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>>739925712
It's a fun beat em up. Hard as fuck but really fun
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>>739928535
>I can't see shit
>I guess this is what happens without E3
I feel like there's a vidya joke waiting to be made here
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>>739928491
I wonder if the war had gone on longer how much droid introspection and situational awareness could improve. Take the Magna-Guards AI and help it improve other droids and those guys were made in the 3 years that TCW encompassed.
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>>739918486
Considering prequel revisionism is a zoomer thing I don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
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>>739928670
Zoomers don't give a shit about the Prequels. If they care about Star Wars at all, they're nearly always Filonitards. Prequelchads do not align with Filonitards.
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>>739928650
I feel like Palpatine would interfere and fudge some things around to ensure that the CIS does not produce highly effective droids en masse.
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>>739928650
I like to think of it more as a manufacturing and cost issue. Sure you could make a bunch of magnaguards but they're much more expensive to make and maintain than a B1. For every magnaguard you could probably make a dozen or more B1s. They make sacrifices in various areas to keep it cheap. A droid brain is probably the most expensive part of it so I'd expect there's only so much you can do to make it smarter while also keeping it cheap.
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>>739928831
Yeah that does sound like a Palpatine thing to do.
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>>739916613
Revan
Sith emperor from the old republic games
Any of the OG sith lords
Pulpy
>inb4 pulpy only won because of Anakin being retarded
He still won
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>>739928954
>He still won
Social manipulation is a skill underutilized by most Jedi, after all. Mace should've learned that the pen is mightier than the sword.
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>>739928910
B1 cost 1000 credit or something. Dirt cheap, tho not sure if canon anymore.
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>>739924287
I dunno, Sheev's got a point here. These Jedi seem awfully out of hand...
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>>739917072
Windu won the lightsaber duel, but Palpatine would've destroyed him with the Force if he didn't decide to pretend to be weak when Anakin arrived.
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>>739916613
The greatest Jedi to ever live.
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>>739929128
The Jedi Order were running clandestine spy operations targeting the legally elected Chancellor of the Republic before launching a coup attempt with an extrajudicial execution. Makes you think.
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I've been playing jedi outcast for about 2 hours, when does this shit stops being half life and becomes star wars?
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>>739929190
Bro, his lightsaber form is key designed to counter dark side force powers. Why do people dickride Palpatine so hard?
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>>739929297
Smart and true infographic
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I can't remember which novel it was, but it was written after the prequels and it had Luke and Mara encounter an old Droideka on a derelict ship and even being somewhat damaged it kept both of them on their toes for most of the fight.
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>>739924287
It is kinda funny how utterly and completely fucked the Jedi were. There was no way out the second the war happened.
>jedi stop fighting/refuse to fight to begin with
>the general public hate them for letting republic citizens die
>jedi figure out the truth about palpatine and try to remove him
>it looks like a fucking coup of the "legitimately" elected leader and are now a rogue element
The only way out was to have somehow sniffed out Palpatine being a Sith before he was made Chancellor lmao.
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>>739929367
This Greedo cat needs to learn to aim.
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>>739929297
When did we start thinking that the OT = reddit and that it's tranny garbage?
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>>739929338
>This was beyond Vaapad; he had no strength left to fight against his own blade
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>>739923084
He just went to collage back in the olden days when it reserved for mostly patricians, before college became daycare for dumbed down plebeians with debts.
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>>739929338
Because Sheev spun and roared which scared the other Jedi Masters and allowed him to easily kill them.
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>>739929507
Spinning is a good trick.
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>>739916613
This guy is the inspiration for Matt from Wii Sports Resort.
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>>739921420
>Yoda lost to Sheev
yoda won the lightsaber duel against palpatine
it was only after they started fighting with the force that yoda lost
albeit, I would say yoda still could have wonned if he didn't get blast away
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>>739929297
It's missing a Tarantino work under the prequels to really seal the joke desu
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>>739929591
Thematically, Palpatine was crushing Yoda beneath the strength of his control of the Senate.
Some may say that Sheev himself was the Senate.
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>>739922367
Agree completely. It's so much more interesting when it's some vague power that manifests in varied and interesting ways and not always reliably, where it can influence luck, agility, focus, clairvoyance, insight. Where it's treated as superstition in some parts of the galaxy, religion or cult behavior in others, and in some just pure legit magic.

Why did they dash that one time and never again in the movies? Because they were in danger, they convened within the force in the space of a single moment, they were connected to the force and to one another, and they simultaneously were able to muster the strength and focus needed to escape with superhuman speed, because that's what the force provided them in that moment. That's much more interesting to me than perks and mana.
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>>739916613
I'm surprised I don't see more people call him Mace Dindu here
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>>739929795
he was pretty scared after yoda contained and even reflected his force lightning back at him
to be honest, it still doesn't make sense for me how yoda lost
>oh no he fell
>when jedi can fall from high places and stop the fall like it's the most natural thing in the world
>somehow yoda can't do that
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>>739929396
they presumably could've gathered together evidence pretty easily of sheev being a sith had he died. you think his lackeys like amedda wouldn't have sang like canaries without him around? both sides gambled on pure force (heh) and sheev won
that said the jedi were full retards refusing to let almost anyone outside of the order know of their suspicions of sith involvement in the war. imagine having just killed the chancelor you go to explain to the senate how he was part of a force group that as far as anyone outside the order knew was extinct for over a thousand years
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>>739930016
Yoda had to lose for the Original Trilogy to happen.
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>>739929989
As annoying as niggers usually are Jackson is a big outlier. Compare him to somebody like Boyega. Totally different.
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>>739930016
Yoda was on a timetable. Shortly after he falls to the floor of the Senate chambers, Clones would start to flood the building. Yoda can fight on par with Darth Sidious, but Clone Troopers would tilt the fight in Sidious's favor. Much like how Palpatine throwing Senate seats at Yoda represents his control of the Senate, the Clone Troopers represent the might of the Empire overcoming the Jedi, at least temporarily.
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>>739930025
They would need to have enough evidence to prove he instigated the war in the first place, which they didn't have. It would still look like, and technically was, a coup against the current standing leader of the Republic based on some religious discrimination by the Jedi. Palpatine didn't even tell Anakin where the Separatist leaders were on Mustafar until AFTER he killed Mace Windu and saved him.
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>>739930116
well, they could have explained that in the movie then
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>>739930016
Engaging in a prolonged battle against an opponent with the homefield advantage, alone, in his seat of power is and was a bad idea. Typical Jedi arrogance especially after Order 66 just happened over the course of a few days.
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>>739930213
if anyone could afford to be arrogant, then that's yoda
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>>739930081
Fuck off with your stupid racism. Your example is entirely down to generation. Morgan Freeman and Denzel Washington are just among many modern era black actors that don't make everything about race and politics. Boyega is from the social media, victim-mentality era and working in a Hollywood that heavily encourages his self-destructive line of thinking.
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>>739916885
>Transvader: Luke, I am your mother.
>Luke Chudwalker: NOOOOOOO!
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>>739930185
Clone report to Palpatine that they can't find Yoda's body from his fall as Yoda is in the process of crawling through the vents to escape. He failed to kill Palpatine before backup arrived and that's why he's bailing.
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>>739930306
more like
>Transvader: Luke, I am your mother.
>Luke Chudwalker: YWNBAW
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>>739930271
>Your arrogance blinds you, Master Yoda
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>>739916885
>It's over -ACKakin, I have the high ground
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>>739930271
Not after thousands of jedi deaths. Not after the dark side continues to cloud your vision. Not after public perception against The Jedi has turned, certainly not after the Chosen One has allied himself with the enemy and can and will lead battalions of clones against you or others. This is why the Jedi failed, they thought they were infallible superheroes instead of flawed individuals who needed to learn and adapt with the flow of the universe.
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>>739930290
Morgan Freeman has openly waded into race victimhood after Trump was elected. His old "we can end racism by stopping talking about it" interview is long passed.
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>>739930159
do they though? palps engaged in a ton of shady shit over the years the kind of stuff that would've sunk any other chancellor. when combined with 3 dead masters (members of the high council mind you) and a red lightsaber - and I imagine palpatine presumably had cameras in his office alongside the recorder, it doesn't make sense he wouldn't - you'd have enough to at a minimum convince the senate he wasnt the wholesome good boy he projected then go from there. not to mention he presumably had tons of dirt on much of the senate that would fall into the jedi's hands
I agree the war would not end immediately but given they'd have lost their key generals and their main man that constantly gave them advantages it's a bit beside the point. they'd be doomed just more slowly
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I always find the moment that the separatist leaders die, and the droid army is shut down, to be among the most tragic and sad in Star Wars. Not because they were innocent paragons of virtue, but because with them dies the last and only thing that could stop twenty years of brutal oppression under Palpatine from happening.
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>>739930383
yoda could have still won against palpatine
he was on par with palpatine or even stronger
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>>739930375
>ACK
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>>739930504
If they were on Final Destination, Fox Only, No Items; sure.
But they weren't, they were in the Imperial Senate chambers on Imperial controlled Coruscant.
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>>739916613
>Sith
Sheev
Malgus
Revan
Vitiate

>Jedi
Revan
Hero of Tython aka your mary sue jedi knight in TOR
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>>739930469
>implying they had a chance when they were Palpatine's stooges right from the very beginning
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>>739930439
I'm not going to entertain potential headcanon about what Palpatine may or may not have had, the story as we see it and it was portrayed, the Jedi just didn't have any evidence to justify their arrest turned execution of Palpatine aside from "He's a Sith Lord". It does however suggest that the Jedi had become far too political a body that they had to not only listen to the Chancellors request for internal Jedi affairs (putting Anakin on the council) but had become defacto military leaders, peace keepers, diplomats, negotiators, and far more than they should've ever been in the first place. It would be an interesting question of if the rest of the Republic would've even gone with the interim government led by the Jedi at all.
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>>739930469
No Dooku, no Grievous, many of their droid armies destroyed. I doubt they would have lasted long.
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>>739922780
I'm pretty sure it's 100% the Jedi way to kill Sith Lords, Anakin.
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>>739930554
yeah sure, palpatine had the advantage
but my point is that if there's one person that could afford to be arrogant, it was yoda. He had the power and skills to back it up
and yoda could have won, he just needed more time
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>>739930469
How could it be tragic and sad when Anakin Chadwalker was dropping these dank quips on the pieces of shit he blamed for the war?
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>>739930601
The leaders are, yes, but with them falls the entire separatist alliance. There is a reason why Palpatine makes it a priority to kill the separatist leadership immediately. Would they have won a direct confrontation and invaded Coruscant? Almost certainly not, but they controlled a vast number of mid rim and outer rim planets that would have been very difficult to put down had the alliance not folded immediately. That's much more than the rebellion had.
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>>739930701
anakin's point was that dooku was not longer a threat because he cut his hands
that's different from killing a sith in a fight
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>>739930290
There's nothing stopping him from emulating these better men you mention.
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>Sheev gets the highground
>Yoda flees
>Obi-wan gets the highground
>Anakin jumps into a lightsaber
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>>739930802
heh
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>>739930793
Which is silly because a Sith Lord doesn't need hands to use the Force. He's literally unable to be disarmed. Not to mention I don't see literally any way that Anakin could arrest him and make his way off of the Invisible Hand with the elderly Chancellor and the unconscious Obi-Wan Kenobi while also wrangling a handless Sith Lord. It's just unreasonable t b h
Dooku was quite literally too dangerous to be left alive.
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>>739916885
I guess Obi-Wan snipped off more than just his limbs.
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>>739930908
The heat and flames probably unironically annihilated his genitals. No wonder he's so mad all the time.
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>>739930898
I'm just following Anakin's logic here
whether dooku could still pull something out of his ass at point or not, we'll never know
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>>739930939
The finest jailbait from a more civilized age.
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>>739930796

>Yoda wasn't acting like a cocky asshole
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>>739930375
>faith in yo mama
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>>739918748
Look at those goofy ass nails. Lil bitch is gonna be late for his next pedicure
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>>739916613
Darth hallway bird.
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>>739930898
Letting Dooku live is a liability. Anyone can free him from bounty hunters to disguised droids. Then you give him cybernetic arms and its back to square 1.
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Rabbit.
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>>739930980
Well, going by the novelization, the intent was for Dooku to allow himself to be captured and ride out the war in a nice prison cell before blaming Grievous for all the atrocities committed by the CIS and then receiving a pardon by Palpatine to become one of the heads of the Sith Empire. So he actually probably would have played ball and willingly gone with the Jedi (not that Anakin could know that). Even going by the movie alone it's apparent that nobody told Tyranus of the Sith penchant for betrayal lel
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>>739931056
Pedicure is feet, manicure is hands
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>This, but as a CSI/L&O type of series.
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>>739931117
Sadly not returning after her one appearance. The best outcome, given how lackluster the second season of Visions was.
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>>739930621
>headcanon
I'd consider the existence of video cameras a reasonable inference with the existence of an audio recording. would fit entirely in line with him having it as potential leverage
it's also quite silly to be engaging in this discussion yet refuse to engage in hypotheticals when the whole thing is a what if scenario. of course they weren't going to bother going into the nitty gritty of how the jedi might've handled the aftermath on screen because we know by nature of the film being a prequel that they are doomed to fail. of course lucas isn't going to bother expounding on their legal reasoning the viewer isn't going to care about a detail that is entirely irrelevant given we know the outcome.
>that the Jedi had become far too political a body
ironically their problem was they weren't political enough
all of the de facto jobs you named are those handled by jedi for millennia in both the old and nu lore for the republic to little ill effect. and yet the jedi had virtually zero real influence on senate or chancellor except in an advisory capacity at best. their problem was they had fundamentally political roles without any actual influence on decision making (in part due to their own arrogance of being loftily detached from mundane affairs).
it's these weakpoints that sheev so deftly exploited. seizing control of the political machinery of the republic while grinding down the jedi numbers through the war and their service as generals
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>>739925254
Genndy struggles to animate any sort of fighting and it shows
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>>739931282
NTA but I'd argue that the way Palpatine utilizes the recording device would indicate that there are no video recording devices. He specifically avoids making any incriminating statements during the audio recording and then opens up after destroying it. So it must be the only record of what's going on in the office. He's concerned about making sure the audio recording backs him up but doesn't care about any visual medium.
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>>739931374
Dooku training Grievus is a great fight scene. Samurai Jack has multiple great fight scenes.
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>>739926914
If he believes in the good in people why did he try to murder his nephew
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>>739930791
You're forgetting that Dooku ended up being the real defacto leader of the separatist forces, which was also Palpatine's apprentice. The whole entire Coruscant assault was staged, and wouldn't have happened under normal circumstances, if Palpatine's influence wasn't already deeply embedded in the separatist's leadership. They had no chance.
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>>739931374
mfw
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>>739916613
Sheev
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>>739931182
She lives on in porn or until some autist tries to use her again.
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>>739931420
given he destroys the audio device before anything too incriminating could be caught I think its a reasonable inference that any video recording would if it exists simply be immediately wiped by him after his victory, assuming it survived the confrontation at all of course
a video would be out of the question as evidence obviously given it'd capture everything autistic sith spin and all.
I only mention it because I can't imagine a political creature like palpatine constantly seeking leverage on everyone would miss the opportunity to record inopportune moments for various politicians over the years
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>>739931495
Yes that is indeed the only exception in Clone Wars.
Samurai Jack only has two : the bounty hunters and the guardian
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>>739931536
I wish we had a fight between anakin and ventress in the movies
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A lot of the senate has fully drunk the Sheev koolaid too. So even if the Jedi did find a "yes this piece of evidence proves Palpatine is behind everything we must take this to the senate immediately" thing it still wouldn't matter except to the few (Mon, Bail, Padme) who already think he is dodgy.
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>>739931523
He had a bad dream
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Too weak... I'm too weak oh... don't quote me... please...
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>>739931523
not canon
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>>739929832
Too bad they completely ruined the mysticism of force by saying it's some midichlorian -count gayness
Before that, it was acceptable to see Jedi force using as a sort of cleric "beseeching the universe for a response", and Dark side Force use as a sort of forcibly commanding it like a sorcerer.
I guess that still works, but I digress
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>>739931523
He was trying to stop the shit sequels from happening.
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>>739931725
>by trying to stop the shitty Disney Sequels, he caused them
The pottery keeps rhyming
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Remember when the Solo movie went out of its way to explain why the Millennium Falcon's computer had a most peculiar dialect by having an extreme pro-droids rights droid named L3-37 who was irreparably damaged and had her mind loaded into the Falcon's computer system?
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>>739931626
You're supposed to microwave the baby after one of those.
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>>739931795
no because I never watched that shit
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>>739931795
>the Millennium Falcon is a Droids Lives Matter activist
Imagine character assassinating a spaceship
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>>739931795
No because no one saw Solo.
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>OP had to specify Jedi or Sith because he knows CHAD BANE would put Mace in a pinebox
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>>739931841
Lucky you.
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>>739931834
Everyone makes fun of Locke but that microwave worked
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>>739931795
I’d sooner watch squirrels frolick in my backyard than watch Solo.
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>>739916613
So just pure lightsaber skills? I'm not sure there is one. Mace was pretty much the goat. But you could make an argument for Yoda or Dooku.
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What's everyone's favorite star wars ship?

I'm a fan of Venators.
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>>739930791
>Almost certainly not, but they controlled a vast number of mid rim and outer rim planets that would have been very difficult to put down had the alliance not folded immediately
the separatists had mostly been reduced to holdouts in the outer rim by the 3rd year of the war, it's why grevious' attack on coruscant doesn't seem that crazy to the public when you consider it a desperate attempt to reduce pressure on what was left and maybe even win by kidnapping the chancellor.
realistically they were on their last legs even before anakin slaughtered their leadership
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>>739931795
No. Thankfully I haven't exposed myself to any Disney Wars shit besides Rogue One and that one scene of Luke in the hallway. Refuse to watch the sequel trilogy.
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>>739931941
jedi starfighters
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>>739931941
For me it's the Eta-2 Jedi Interceptor
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>>739931941
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I genuinely still haven't seen episode 8 and 9. I've seen clips over the years but never sat down and watched them.
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>>739916613
Yoda does an ultra fart that stuns him, decimates his lower core, intestines spilling into jar jar binks
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>>739931941
Tie interceptor. I can't explain why.
Whenever a game lets me fly one I suddenly think I am the empires ace and play like a fucking lunatic.
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>>739931992
>haven't seen episode 8
lucky you
I regret ever paying to watch that shit
at least I learned my lesson and stop watching those shitty movies after that
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>>739931992
Me too. After all of the things I heard about them I have zero desire to watch them. Same with season 3 of Mando.
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>>739931992
I went to a midnight viewing of 8. I was a fool.
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>>739932030
They are a very aesthetic member of the TIE family.

Not quite as suicidal as an A-Wing, but close enough.
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>>739932039
There was a season 3?
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>>739932039
there was a season 2?
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>>739932076
Not only was there a shitty season 3, they made the shitty season 4 into a movie that just flopped harder than any Star Wars movie since the shitty TCW cartoon movie.
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>>739931941
always been a fan of the Lambda-class shuttle
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9OmUsV-gh0
Kino
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>>739932104
I heard about the movie. Did Rosario Dawson come back? She's hot.
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>>739931992
I watched TFA in the theaters and got the feeling they had no idea where to go with the franchise, so I haven't seen anything SW related since. Seems like I made the right call
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Instead of going full scorched earth on the EU Disney should have started making the novels into movies, starting with Truce at Bakura.
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>>739916885
I find it funny how this simple shitpost and image got so many (you)'s
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>>739932183
Disney is convinced they can do Star Wars better than anything EU. Honestly I'm still shocked they brought Thrawn in. Filoni sucked someone's dick.
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>>739932129
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cFCS1bviTs
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>>739931935
Obi Wan would win because he's a defenseCHAD and Mace has no way to open him up
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>>739917072
>>739916997
>>739929190
I always felt that Palpatine must've exhausted himself somewhat in the initial 1v4 and likely never thought that his lighting would be reflected back at him as that situation is never shown again in any other fight perhaps throughout all the canon and non canon
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>>739932104
>mando s2 is cameo slop
>baby yoda leaves at the end and mando guy (i genuinely forgot his name) has the darksaber
>think to myself "okay they're done setting up other shows s3 can do some interesting character stuff with him now"
>it's all undone immediately
I only watched it because people I know wanted to talk about it, the episode with the fat niggress and Jack Black made me consider the rope as a more enjoyable way to spend my time.
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>>739932246
They also brought him back.
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>>739916613
Marcus Aurelius
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>>739932291
Not only is it all undone immediately so that Mando can have Baby Yeed with him for season 3, he gets Yeed back IN A DIFFERENT SHOW lmao
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>>739932183
They only nuked the EU to avoid paying royalties. Lets say they did decide to start off from where it ended and make Jaina/Ben Skywalker the new protagonist duo in a new adventure. An opening crawl to explain a condensed summary of Luke and friends “overcoming evil and helping guide the next generation” to defend the galaxy is all you need. People can follow it if youre a competent writer and aren’t lore dumping every 2 minutes. But now you gotta pay the people who created those characters and so on and so on.
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>>739932030
Agreed. Love that little suicide box.
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>>739922367
Is it ever explaines why sometimes force push and pull is used and other times it's not and it certainly isn't spammed. Is it like a focus thing? Like in the mace vs sidious fight when the window shatters either of the two can just force push the other one out. Or when the 1v4 is happening why not just someone, ANYONE just force push him away when he obviously is shown to be powerful. Why didn't obiwan just force push maul through when he was behind the plasma door. Or pull him? Actually why do only sith ever do the force restraining thing? I understand why the Jedi don't choke people but you could still at least hold them in place.

Like obiwan telling Anakin "LET HER GO". I don't think it's bad writing, I think maybe the force isn't like some energy thing you have like in an anime? Am I right? It's more of a "feel of the moment" thing?
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>>739932115
>Sienar gets the entire starfighter budget to blow on death sticks when Cygnus is clearly more talented at designing small ships
it's not fucking fair
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>>739924962
Yeah, the complaints about overpowered Jedi act like the force was turned into shonen magic, when it's always functioned within specific limits that only seem meaningless because a relative handful of top tiers buck the trend
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>he wants to survive
What are you, a faggot?
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Mando being kitted out like an endgame geared RPG character was cool.
They got rid of all of that for some reason.
>beskar spear is gone
>darksaber is gone
>jawa destroyer 9000 rifle is gone
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>>739932248
>Mortis
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>>739931992
Just watch the Sheev clips of EP 9 and you've saved yourself 6/7 hours of your time by skipping both movies
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>>739932491
Sienar knows how to blow for cash.
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>>739930016
Even if Yoda got back up, sheev would've just fled. The distance was large. Palpatine showed the most fear towards Yoda. He only got scared of windu after an extensive battle and he was in a poor stance on the floor.
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>>739930542
They never had fights as choreographically interesting as this in the new trilogy
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>>739932697
Pure kino
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>>739917072
lucas is a hollywood bommer with misplaced sentimentality
past a certain age words mean nothing
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>>739932737
I think the only real time Palpatine shows fear in the battle against Yoda is when he loses sight of him after Yoda flings the Senate platform back at him. He looks surprised when Yoda repulses the lightning but immediately returns to laughing once they get yeeted away from each other. Meanwhile he looks around in a panic after avoiding the Senate platform.
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>>739916613
How come he wasn't in the force unleashed if he "survived"
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>>739931859
>jobs to boba fat
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>>739932825
what new trilogy? there's no such thing
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>>739932882
It's canon that the only Jedi Sidious feared was Yoda, hence why he sent Vader to the temple to kill him. Sidious thought he succeeded until Yoda showed up in the senate chamber.
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>>739932956
Assuming Palpatine didn't directly know that Yoda was on Kashyyyk, which he almost certainly did, he would have known he wasn't at the Jedi Temple because he didn't accompany Mace Windu to the Jedi's murder coup.
He was surprised that Yoda survived because he assumed the Clones would have got him during Order 66.
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>>739923084
>>739925749
Anakin only says that to save Palpatine for his knowledge. He is less interested in following code. That's not to say he DOESN'T consider his past failure with dooku or that the code is relevant. It's a complex scene and there is a flurry of emotions here. The overwhelming one is padme's safety. Not the Jedi teachings, unfortunately. Or maybe fortunately with how it all worked out.
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>>739916613
https://youtu.be/LDCjIjsZp_Y?si=aloYu6K4scUVCtER
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>>739923656
Sony owns Disney's ass
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The geography that I stands compares you superior.
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>>739931795
Yeah. Great movie, I'm thinking of rewatching it again soon. Making every Star Wars material necessary for watching it was certainly a business decision, however.
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>>739921420
>>He himself says he isn't as good as Yoda.
>>Windu beat Sheev
This makes sense though, Mace's fighting style is literally super effective against sith and dark side force users. In fact, and I might be wrong, but I think he literally draws on their dark side energies to power himself. Thats part of why Sheev knew he needed trick him into dying somehow because there was no way he could ever beat him 1 on 1. Vaapad is OP against the sith.
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The most fucked up thing about Palpatine is he never sleeps and has been doing this for decades. If i went two days without sleep I’d seriously consider jumping off a cliff.
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>>739933573
When you do what you love, you never work a day in your life or need to sleep. Palpatine sure loved being head of state and also an evil space wizard. What a guy.
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>>739932281
The gist of it is that Sheev foresaw he would succeed, but not quite how. So he was just living in the moment without a care. He believed anything he did would lead to victory, because he trusted the force completely.
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>>739932486
In the case of force vs force the reason is obvious: it's the same reason a lightsaber is not as dangerous to a force user as it is to a normal person, ie near precognition, if someones means to push someone it will get instantly countered with an opposite push, just like when Yoda absorbs Dooku's lightning even though he couldn't possibly have known(without force) it was lightning or another push.
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>>739931795
of all the bullshit in that movie the fucking escape pod notch pisses me off the most
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>>739916613
darth icky
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>>739916613
Talzin would’ve kicked his ass if Jarjar hadn’t stepped in
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>>739933573
Probably thinks Vader will kill him in his sleep like he did Plagueis.
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>>739933742
Wonder why neither Lando nor Han ever replaced it.
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>>739933715
If that's true, why was Vader able to fuck up Luke by chucking stuff at him?

https://youtu.be/iNaDp1rNE0Y?t=181
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>>739933742
>It pushes freight
>push, not pull
>ie basically a long metal stick with shit inside
>Would just be ridiculously awkward to turn, with center of mass possibly hundreds of meters away from the ship
>The containers would also have to support the stress of the entire thing moving
So is it at least like a tugboat or is it actually incredibly retarded
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>>739934047
Looks like your video answers your own question
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Palpatine was quite literally the best character in that movie just because of how much he clearly enjoyd being evil
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Probably Darth Palpatus or whatever ol' vagina face is called who.... ya know. Actually beat this dumb coon
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>>739934162
>Alright Ian, for this next scene your motivation is you're the evil emperor of the galaxy, okay? And today is the best day of your entire life. Can you- can you do that for me, Ian?
>Say no more, Mr. Lucas.
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>>739916613
Yoda and Luke
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>>739934162
Palps is the best character of every film he's in.
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>>739916613
Starkiller
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>>739933710
I like that, really shows how much of a sith lord he really was. More than just raw power.
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>>739932183
People cry about how retarded certain feats of the force are in the Disney trilogy. Can you imagine putting EU stuff to live action? EU is insane with power level nonsense. It would just be ridiculous to actually have actors act the shit out
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>>739934125
The answer being that you're mistaken? Weird way of conceding, but okay.
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>>739916613
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmusQi5dzEw&pp=ygUSQW5ha2luIHZzIE1hY2UgUFMy
Remember when him and Anakin fought in the PS2 game? Good times.
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>>739916885
>fallen hero corrupted by the self destructive evil side of the force who got his dick burnt off in lava
>make him a troon

KEK
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>>739930939
Why did the Jedi send literal child soldiers to fight in one of the deadliest wars in the galaxy? She was literally 14 when she was sent to Christophsis
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>>739931941
Republic Gunship. I also love vulture droids but those aren't "ships".
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>>739931859
>hype up a character for like a year
>does literally nothing
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>>739926307
Check out the Gears of War books if you liked that.
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>>739929367
kek
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>>739916613
Exar Kun
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>>739935285
nothing he said was incorrect
the primary ability of the Jedi is precognition and reflexes, with the caveat that they have to be relatively relaxed in order to feel what the Force wants them to do
that is literally the first thing they're taught
Luke is very clearly pants-shittingly terrified in this scene, hence Vader can fuck him up by tossing shit at him
it's the same logic as Grievous being able to hunt relatively green Jedi by ambushing them, but the second he encounters an actual master he folds like a wet paper towel
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>>739916613
A fat tranny with vitiligo in a wheelchair will retroactively rape and gape him in the 2030 prequel reboot.
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>>739934047
Luke literally abandoned his training and went to confront vader when both of his mentors told him he wasn't anywhere near ready, which resulted in him getting spanked.
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>>739922367
I’m just going to add the fact that Jedi cannot use force crush as that is a dark side power. Wendu was unique as he used both dark and light side powers, but most Jedi only use the light side of the force and all of Wendu’s apprentices fell to the dark side of the force.
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>>739934056
>Would just be ridiculously awkward to turn, with center of mass possibly hundreds of meters away from the ship
It would pivot around the center of mass and you would have to maneuver accordingly.
>The containers would also have to support the stress of the entire thing moving
The entire thing looks very sturdy in the direction of travel, but I guess the clamp part would suffer from fatigue.

Anyway, this entire thing is just an explanation for how the Millenium Falcon can be a freight while having pretty much no cargo space.
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>>739936292
They rely on the force for decisions which is like asking an invisible sky chat gpt for instructions

so basically they are doing vibe warfare

vibes say send more children to fight death machines
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>>739936292
It's one of those things that only "works" in an animated kids show.
In live action it's fucked.
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>>739924004
Get BTFO by CIS
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>>739937540
>Dooku dead
>Grievous dead
>Lost a bunch of assets assaulting Coruscant
How?
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>>739925749
He doesn't kill Mace, he disarms him.
Palpatine kills Mace once he has no weapon
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>>739937609
By outnumbering Republic 10000 to 1, in both troops and ships.
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>>739924004
>If Mace actually won and killed Sheev, what was the next step of the jedi master plan?
They're kind of fucked because Separatists were going to win the war by the time of RotS and only the mass droid shut down stoped it (yes even without Grievous and Dooku the whole Separatist Council and Confederate Senate were still fully opperational)
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>>739916885
>True self
>shitstiny 2
actually based af
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>>739937609
All the corpo sponsors and thier infineite factories are still alive and well.
The non-sith political structure is intact.

The only possible hurdle is that without Dooku Senate is open to negotiation with the Republic, but given the state of the conflic and CIS sieging Coruscant like 2 days earlier i assume the peace treaty would be unfavourable for the Republic.
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>>739924004
Jedi seize control of the Republic for a bit. Probably lose to the CIS because the Republic would be in shambles and the CIS would no longer have Palpatine manipulating events in his orchestrated war.
Worst case scenario they are declared traitors and an enemy to the Republic so they get "Order 66 but nowhere near as effective", and the Republic loses to the CIS anyway.
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>>739937609
Their main leaders are still active. Still being bankrolled by the banking clan, trade federation produced droids and hundreds of systems. Anakin coming to Mustafar and killing their top dogs in one room was a heavy, demoralizing blow. After that everyone falls in line.
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>>739937715
>>739937845
>>739937863
>>739937951
The separatists were spineless though, they'd fold like paper once they don't have dooku and palps in their ear reassuring them
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>>739937715
Plus Dooku and Grievous were taking orders from Palpatine who didn't want the CIS to even win.
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>>739937532
Do you think 14 year olds never fought in wars, retard?
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>>739917150
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wtf i didn't know george used invader as vader name
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>>739916613
Jango would’ve beaten him if his jetpack didn’t get fucked up.
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>>739938189
Outside deepest africa it's pretty much always been considered a desperate measure
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>>739938116
That's why they'd imediatly start peace talks, bit given the good position Dooku left them with they'd be able to secede from the Core.
Jedi would probably be banned from outer rims for a few years until decads later relations will normalize
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>separatist holdouts joined the rebellion
Reminder that the CIS won in the end
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>>739919203
no wonder the republic fell
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>>739924007
and why were his horns glued on so badly
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>>739923084
prequelfags are the fucking worst, at least no one has the gall to pretend nu-wars is good
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It should've never been sold to Disney!
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>>739916613
Anakin.
You did play the video game, right?
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>>739922098
Correct answer.
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>that time sw eu writers forgot how numbers worked and accidentally made the clones outnumbed 1 billion to 1
Oops.
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Name one Jedi or Sith more BASED than Qui Gon.
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>>739916613
Darth Employment
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>>739939498
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>>739938751
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>>739939498
darth maul
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>>739939498
you forgot
>fucks prime Natalie Portman on set
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>>739939698
>I want to kill a sith bastard
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>>739916885
What the fuck is darth vader doing in destiny 2 lmao.
Also that's some really pathetically tiny cape.
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>>739938751
>CIS dudes dying in the name of the Alliance to Restore the Republic
Won the biggest cuck award.
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>>739923151
No fucking way was this intentional, it's pure coincidence.
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>>739940214
Does it matter?
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where does darth vader get his shoes
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>from adelaide (it sucks don't go there)
>that time i randomly saw george lucas
I still don't know why he was here.
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>>739940307
He doesn't wear shoes,he has a full bodysuit
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>”So, at the climax of the movie, Palpatine - whose Sith name is Darth Sidious, by the way, because he’s so insidious - will throw Samuel L. Jackson out of a window.”
>”Okay, George. But you still haven’t named this Jedi Master. The audience can’t get invested if they don’t even know who he is.”
>”Hmm… Well, he gets thrown out of a window, so… his name is Windu.”
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>>739931941
I genuinely cannot say anymore, there's just too much to pick from.
ARC-170, N1, TIE Interceptor, TIE Defender, Jedi Interceptor, Slave 1, The Coffin-Wing, even the basic-bitch X-Wing remains timeless to this day.
Lately I'm even gaining appreciation for the Y-Wing.
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>>739931992
My normalfag friends took me to the cinema to see 8 even though I hadn't seen 7.
It was the most offensively bad movie I had seen at the time, still probably is. I think I actually laughed my ass off out loud at some point as well.
Needless to say I have absolutely no desire to see the others.

I feel like the movie just didn't know what it wanted to be, there's quips every 2 minutes even when the movie wants you to take the scene before/after super seriously. Then the big bad literally dies from a fucking quip.
Maybe if they went all the way with the silly morning cartoon vibes it would have beeb more successful, because Kylo Ren being and angry sperging edgelord was genuinely funny sometimes, but the problem is that the movie still expects you to treat him seriously at certain points.
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Reminder that EU shit was never canon.
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The biggest sin of the sequels for me is nothing looks cool (or well, very few things do). The prequels fucking suck as movies but holy shit all the clones and droids, all their equipment, ect look fucking awesome.
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>>739916613
Solid Snake, if they fought on a plane
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>>739940547
The hilarious truth is that this kindergarted stuff is actually a far more profound way of naming characters than just jamming random syllables together. If anyone new writing Star Wars began naming characters by the way they'd eventually die then people would respect their foreplanning more than the usual
>Uhh how about... carpet... slope... uummm... per. Ka'pett Schloper!
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>>739932491
>>739932719
Raith Sienar and his company are deep social commentary on the Military-Industrial Complex and you can't convince me otherwise.
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>>739940873
The movies never had a chance because one of its primary objectives is tearing down/killing the old cast, pissing off the old fanbase, and filling the diversity quota.
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>>739924004
because they didn't and Sheev would turn into a martyr
apparently he had a dead man switch prepared in case he died so clones would still execute order 66 for actual treason this time
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>>739931941
This one, but what's its name again?
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>>739941217
Dude that's Boba Fett's Starship!
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>>739931148
you would know
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>>739941178
I don't like him having deadman switches. Shit like operation cinder, ect.
Why would he think he would ever die?
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>>739940991
The visual and sound design of the prequels was absolutely top fucking notch, even for the littlest things. Watch the scene in The Phantom Menace when Maul appears near the end. The hanger is big and beautiful with warm colors, not gray and sterile like the sequels would do. The Queen's guards are all dressed in this fancy maroon leather tunic, the door opens with this really cool whirring sound you don't really pay attention to but adds texture to the scene. Not to mention the first notes of Duel of the Fates. And the scene just a dozen people standing in front of an opening door. There's way cooler shit in all those movies but that's just one tiny example.
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>>739931941
I just enjoy the humble x-wing
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>>739941460
Those opening notes are the biggest reason why I prefer the film version of Duel of the Fates over the OST release. Fuck the choir, give me those horns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2UUkX9RKRc
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Mace Nigguh
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>>739923084
you are mentally ill and should not post
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>>739940873
>I think I actually laughed my ass off out loud at some point as well.
I did inbetween mutters of "what the fuck" at the flying Leia scene and the killing of Snoke.
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>>739926176
>If Anakin was actually evil at that point you’d expect him to kill Palpatine in a fit of rage for being deceived
It would be really embarassing if people realised he was tricked into becoming a sith, so maybe he just pretended to go along with it to save face.
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>>739916613
His fatal weakness.
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>>739941217
Employee One.
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Ahsoka is way too hot for her young age
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>>739940991
>>739941460
For me I dislike the wushu/Chinese-style swordfighting and choreography compared to the kendō/Japanese-style of the original trilogy. It's way too flashy than actual jian 劍 martial art and I know there are lore justifications (aka. copes) it's just not my cup of tea. Admittedly it does add to the spectacle, making it look like a wuxia film, and the prequels would be less interesting visually if they went the latter method.
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>>739916885
Cute and valid
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>>739931941
I'll say, as much as I absolutely despise nuWars, the U-Wing, Resurgence-Class Star Destroyer, and their Tie Avenger are all pretty good.
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>>739924223
Mace didn't sneak Palp.
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>>739926790
Wasn't Sheev a native Nabooan?
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>>739929295
When lizard man clowns on you. Pretty sure that happens at the end of the second mission.
Treasure the early FPS content, it's the old Dark Forces coming back, even briefly.
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Lorelet here. Why don't jedi fight with swords telekinetically? You can't defend in both directions unless you use a sword telekinetically yourself.
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>>739933410
Dindu didn't beat Sheev. He was faking it to trick Anakin into taking the dark side plunge.
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>>739937380
Even so, Wouldn't it still be incredibly suss for the equivalent of a prime mover without semitrailer claiming to be a legitimate cargo hauler?
I mean, IRL they can drop off trailers, but eventually some port authority is gonna notice they never pick one up.
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>>739917196
Incorrect, nigcel.
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>>739943876
>Sitting on a deck rather than a hanging from a proper dock
This pisses me off much more than it should.
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>>739931775
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>>739934789
That one Miniseries ep of Windu going ham would basically just be wuxia.
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>>739934047
>If that's true, why was Vader able to fuck up Luke by chucking stuff at him?
Yoda warned him his training is not yet complete, and he'd get fucked up by Vader. And so when he faced Vader, he ended up getting fucked up.

I could follow this logic when I first saw it as a six year old, I don't understand why this is so difficult to people.
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>>739945692
But then that would be a skill issue of the smuggler. You don't always make runs in the same port or you fake your papers with the port authority or you run legit in between your smuggling business or you pick a legit cargo and hid the illegal goods in it.
In this case, the MF is a semi truck with a false floor and an engine swap for a giant turbo gasoline engine. When the police yells stop you floor it and change plates when you outrun them.
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>>739920959
I think its kind of funny
Like Isshin Ashina in a way
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>>739946051
Yeah, actually that's a fair point.
It's just kind of odd to imagine then that the MF would largely spend most of its working hours actually pushing containers offscreen.
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>>739930749
>”I am your reward” the Sith Lord said, “You don’t find me handsome?”
Fucking kek, glad to see falling to the dark side didn’t stop Anakin from being a banter machine.
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>>739946326
Even when James Earl Jones'd up he was still spicy.
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>>739946326
https://youtu.be/xh3Wveg4DMk
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>>739924004
Why is everyone talking about "evidence" there is security footage of Sheevs office. Obi wan and Yoda see it near the end of the movie

Just fucking play the security footage of sheev killing Jedi with his red lightsaber and be like "yeah he was a bad guy" and that's it. Did no one else watch the movie?
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>>739930898
You say that yet Obi Wan left Anakin in a pretty disarmed state, if you'll forgive the pun. He also didn't finish him off which ultimately came back to bite him, I suppose.
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>>739925479
Kyber used to be a special and rare augmenting crystal too, not just the name for a standard lightsaber crystal
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>>739946541
>chops his hand off
>stop being such a pussy
lel
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>>739926707
Sort of. ARCs were hard to control and indoctrinate in their youth.
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>>739929338
Well Sidious is the most complete and powerful force user up until this point in the universe's timeline, iirc George himself confirmed it at one point. It just so happens that Mace is a hard counter with his reverse uno card lightsaber and force form in this instance. Sort of like the Exile and Nihilus
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>>739916613
Exar Kun and Tulak Hord
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He would be pretty fucked if his father turned sith because he couldn't even see him.
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>>739924571
Honestly the sith lord thing is secondary to leading the separatists. That's pretty actionable.
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>>739930802
I don't know. Smiling smugly and making puns like that doesn't really align with the state of mind Anakin was in at this moment. This is just marvel quips, seems stupid.
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>>739922367
a. cartoon grievous specifically trained to unnerve jedi and break their focus while dodging their force bullshit
b. realistically jedi are huge fucking jobbers, even the masters are shit at actual combat and get offed left and right even with numbers
Its one part
>gennedy heard that there was a cyborg jedi hunter who collect their lightsabers like trophies and understood that guy needs to be cool as fuck while george wanted him to be a sniveling coward
and another part
>literally only obi-wan, anakin, dooku, and mace are competent fighters of the whole temple and anakin has the advantage of bullshit chosen one powers
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>>739946023
Yep, A better question would be why Dooku could grab Obi-Wan so easily with the force and throw him around to take him out of the fight?
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>>739925749
He doesn't kill mace. He cus his hands off to prevent him from killing palpatine, because he thought that was the only way to save padme

Palpatine killed Mace. Not Anakin.
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>>739916613
Didn’t this nigger get lightninged to death by a geriatric ahh unc? :skull: :wilted_rose:
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>>739923084
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>>739938506
How became his son such a fan favourite, after doing doing literally nothing during the Original Trioligy except dying in the most slapstick comedic way possible? He didn't even manage to catch Han Solo by himself. Was it really just because his armor looked cool?
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>>739949932
People like the idea of a space bounty hunter. He has a flamethrower, jetpack and other weapons/gadgets. Doesn’t talk much and doesn’t show his face. And Vader felt the need to personally tell him to not disintegrate people, showing how notorious he is.
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>>739916806
I hate that fucking faggot, why he hate Maul so fucking much? Fucking gay cowboy
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>>739949932
His son didn’t get a cool video game like Jango
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>>739918748
Lord Starkiller's armor is so cool.
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>>739916613
Nah I'd win
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>>739930382
You could have gone for An-ACKin
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>>739916885
>Rule of Two
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>>739943353
George specifically said he wanted the prequels to be different from the OT and be their own thing, so maybe it was a complete conscience and intentional decision.
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>>739940294
Fair point.
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A reminder that the most popular genre of music in Star Wars is Jizz.
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a reminder that Palpatine is basically Anakins dad since he impregnated his mom with pure force to set the big plan in motion.
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>>739953098
I thought that was Plagueis?
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>>739953098
>nuwars headcanon



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