>>739915617>Mike? Showing up in 5Eh it's a dead horse but people saw the wall in the spoiled Mike Trio scene is a little weird, we might get another castle town bit about him.>Firegrave?Well...>The vast garden is charred in an inferno of jealousy>relationship drama with the Dreemurrs already a given>Ralsei has fire magic confirmed nowIn a similar vein which Chapter 2 did in fact have a genocide route that wasn't what the Chara frens expected, we do have a real shot at Firegrave becoming real in some way.
>>739915782I was put off by chapter 2 at first but it grew on me a lot during the WAIT, but I still keep my criticism. I gave another chance to 3 and 4 a bit ago but this time I came out feeling they are worse, even some bits I had enjoyed my first time.I think chapter 3 was awful but somehow, despite arguably being even wackier than 2, I think the comedy was actually improved. Went in expecting the weather couple to be annoying like Sweet Cap'n Cakes and came out of it frustrated that they should have got MORE screen time and an actual original battle song. I love those guys, and I laughed into orbit with the throuple shit the first time. I even enjoy Tenna by himself, even if he isn't a criminal gameshow host.
You all sounds like you're coping that your pet theories didn't come true.
Susie
>>739917070I have a single pet theory I actually care about, and it has stood the test of time way better than I anticipated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpVfqOfXTjEAt this point I'm just here for the ride and the memes, and to see the inevitable meltdown.
>>739917070I meant to reply to your post on pet theories in the other thread before it was deleted.It is disrespectful and unfair to castigate people for being emotionally attached to their unique theories. Does have a novel opinion make something untrue? One's feelings on a matter and the truth of that matter are two completely different things, and it seems to me that your dismissive attitude towards people's "pet theories" is really just itself a cover for your own emotional attachment to your own theories, whether they be pet theories or not.
>>739916803built for rape
>>739917070Tell me themefag, how do you feel about the fact there are several anons here who actually believe chapter 5 will be a dating simulator where they can choose which girl Kris will get?
Did anything happen in the last few months? Why am I seeing so many Deltarune threads now?
>>739917220Because he is the themefag and he thinks anyone who enjoys stories in a way other than doing lame highschool literature class interpretations is bellow him.
>>7399173123+4 anniversary is coming next week
>>739916875>In a similar vein which Chapter 2 did in fact have a genocide route that wasn't what the Chara frens expected,Did any actual Charafag expect Chara to commit evil genocides using Kris? I'm a humanbro and I always thought that idea was dumb.
>>739917312There have been daily threads since forever now, it's just they've been getting deleted lately.
>>739917312Deltarune fans hate waiting for news on the next update and the only thing they've got so far is 2026, so they're hoping on the game's initial anniversary date next week that the game will get a shadow drop or something.
>>739917070I hated firegrave from the start for being an example of how unimaginative some fans can be, but I'm not bragging about it not happening either. This sort of stuff isn't made in bad faith, but genuine appreciation.
>>739917070Reverse Undertale theory is still real, though.
>>739917448I remember serious speculation about Kris killing everyone in town from those days.>>739917494>the only thing they've got so far is 20262nd half specifically
>>739917595Speculation existed, yes, but I don't think anyone WANTED that to happen.
>>739917581RU is my only hope at enjoying chapter 5.
>>739917595Sword route literally shows Kris killing everyone in town. It was a double fake out
>>739917335Themes are important for a story
>>739917690Yes, Kris genocides Hometown will be vindicated, especially shit like this. https://youtu.be/dDjNO4TP95U
>>739917690https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMRrNY0pxfM
>>739917070Not me.
>>739916803She really cute.
>>739917817>Alvin Knighter saying this
>>739917897>AlvinKnight
>>739917116She cute
>>739917897what was even alvin's deal with digging the grave anyway?
>>739917070Most of the pre ch3-4 theories that got axed were utter shit tho, so not a terrible loss
>>739917991like?
>>739917952>* ... were you proud of me, father...?>* And... is it right for this hammer to...Alvin knew that Gerson's remains and hammer had to be kept in the church instead of being properly buried. Chapter 4 couldn't have happened otherwise.Trust the plan.
>>739917952Probably couldn't move on for his father's death but if you're an Alvin Knighter coper then he's totally involved in the conspiracy.
>>739918049>* (On the shelter was a strange panel.)>* (It looked like a digital security lock...)>* (There were three entry fields, and three symbols besides them.)>* (One had a pine tree beside it.)>* (One had an officer's badge beside it.)>* (And one> had the DELTA RUNE.)
>>739918047>>739918049but like, what was the motivation?alvin just felt like doing it?is he part of the conspiracy?did gaster tell him to do it like a voice from god?
>>739918098>Immediately proves my pointIt's over, Alvin Knight was retarded. Let it go.
>>739918137We don't know for sure but based on the fact he had regrets involving Gerson I think he just couldn't let go of his father. That's why Susie wrote the letter for him
>>739918139Alvin was like the 7th best option we had (from the game's clues, not narratively)shit like alphys knight were the retarded bets
>>739918016Firegrave, Chess Theory, Everyone is The Roaring Knight Theory, Piles of Asriel's Dust, and certain expectations that every chapter would have a wacky totally insane schizo that sounds like Spamton or sometimes Jevil. Rest in Piss.
>>739918049he can be part of the conspiracy without also being the knight himself
>>739918016For me it was Kris making the fountain for the funsies
>>739918256Yes but Alvin Knighters cope by trying to make him relevant and making him part of the conspiracy is how.
>>739918239alphys knight always had the benefit of her being in the fountain locations not being noteworthy which eliminated 80% of the pre 3&4 candidates alone
>>739918250Chess Theory and Schizo Bosses were cool...
>>739918250only multiple knights is the actual shit one those, maybe asriel dust too
>>739918239He was the weakest candidate between the big four in popularity (Kris, Papyrus, Mayor and him)Nobody believed Alphys Knight
>>739918324We have to get in mind there are two angles to speculation>this theory is true because of the evidence>this theory is true because it would be a good narrativeDess Knight makes for an alright story but had zero hints in 1 and 2. Kris Knight is lame but had an embarrassing amount of evidence for and fits well into Toby's deconstructive writing style. Rudy Knight is shit but would fit very well with all the hints so far.
>>739917652Trust the plan, Chapter 5 will mirror Snowdin.
>>739918395I remember very clearly Dess and Asriel being popular guesses, Papyrus knight always had a meme tone about it
>>739917228I think they're retarded.
>>739918505I wish someone would stab the floor in the Holiday mansion basement.
>>739918476dess knight had one hint in ch2, as noelle says that dess had promised her to take her to a 'city of lights'granted this could also be arguably used as noelle knight proof, but it could work either way
>>739918517dess knight was around but it ran into the issue of 'how would that be possible?'which is still the case today but now that we have a design for the knight it became more plausible asriel knight was always dumb, there has never been any reason to suspect he isn't where everyone says he is, which is at college
>>739918517Dess wasn't popular, it was niche. Asriel I'm not so sure but I don't remember him being that popular. Papyrus Knight only became a meme after 3 and 4, beforehand people were into it.https://youtu.be/QstipukKM-A
>>739918137Who is town is most likely to understand the significance of The Prophecy?Who saves the day at the end of the Chapter by breaking the TItan's shield?Maybe Alvin figured something out, maybe Gerson told him, but it was understood that the remains had to be kept there.>>739918176You don't keep your dad's corpse in your office just because you have daddy issues. Alvin was a priest violating a major taboo. He clearly felt conflicted about it and must have had a good reason to do it.>>739918139Why would the Delta Rune code not be at the Church?Do you seriously think we just happened to get a completely unrelated 4-digit code in Chapter 4?
>>739918549Snowdin will be mirrored by being a forest in the Flower Kingdom.
>>739918605I don't need to argue with you, all I need is to WAIT until Alvin is prove irrelevant again just like how 3 and 4 killed Alvin Knighters.
>>739918550That's still really vague. Meanwhile, you had Queen use a knife to represent the Knight, which still is a huge symbol for Kris, and for that reason I feel a little iffy on saying the Knight HAS to be Dess because of the "bat morphs into sword" thing.
>>739917312The collective unconscious is congealing to make Chapter 5 real, just as Gaster intended
>>739918642no I mean an actual christmas wonderland dark world
>>739917581>>739917652>>739918505>chapter 5 - snowdin>chapter 6 - ruins. (note: need to beat the game before you can enter the ruins once leaving it)>chapter 7 - ???bets on chapter 7 if we're following RU?>'surface'>inverted surface (the depths)>game completely breaks because we werent supposed to go this far
>>739918760That will be the festival but I only see that happening as the Angel's Heaven.
>>739918761you know, that's actually a really neat ideabut have the true lab equivalent be chapter 0, it holding the key to enter 7 properly
>>7399187617 is weird in general because it's also the chapter Gerson never finished. Personally I think it will be completely unique and not mirror any part of Undertale as the surface is supposed to be the "real world" there.
>>739918786what is the festival even themed after?seasonally it should be a harvest/thanksgiving thing, the town hall is getting flowers and christmas decoration, there are jack o' lanterns, and the teens treat it like valentine's day
>>739918476>Rudy Knight is shit but would fit very well with all the hints so far.This "well Rudy makes LOGICAL sense" cope is so fucking lame, no it fucking does not, he's not running all over town, he can barely stand, he's in the fucking hospital dying of cancer.
>>739918868well if going to the surface means going up a layer to a realer world then obviously the mirror would be going a higher level of the device (or a lesser level of fiction)
>>739918929i've been saying it for months, but rudy knight is just an evolution of papyrus knight it's entirely about it being 'le epic twist' with zero actual thought put into it
>>739918868how deep does the prophecy distortion goes?>original true deltarune prophecy>the angel religion (and ralsei's summary)>lord of the hammer>dragon blazers>cat petters rpg
>>739918929rudy sounds suspicious at times and he could be just lyingstill a garbage theory
>>739919002truebut this does go hard you have to admit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqcPQNBqCH8
I've been watching a few streamers these past years and it's bizarre to me how anal people seemingly get over the use of ellipses in dialogue. It's just a way to convey the pace of the dialogue without actually pausing it. I'm a little upset, to be honest
>>739918897It seems like a pretty standard fall carnival/harvest festival type situation with some additional holiday theming (which realistically could just be because Carol's involved)There's probably not anything inherently romantic about it but it makes sense that it would be a popular date idea for kids in town
>>739918897It's probably Christmas themed, that's what every teaser showed and that's what makes the most sense. It will mirror the town part of Snowdin.https://youtu.be/dLKmUoLOGe4?t=128
>>739919223forgot the carnival rides tooare they just going to be crammed on the space down the town hall?
>>739919223apparently christmas is actually considered a very "romantic" holiday in nippon, I wouldn't be surprised if Toby integrated that so Holiday organizing it-> Christmas adjecent -> weeb romance association
>>739919045>Rudy could just be lying about dying of cancer and getting sick for weeks or months and having to abandon his beloved daughter to stress and worry and pressure inflicted by her harsh mother that will only be worse in his absenceEvery single "what if this character's whole deal is a lie?" theory is complete fucking dogshit, but the degree of character RAPE that RudyKnightfags force onto Rudy who they supposedly think is so cool and based but don't actually understand or respect at all is particularly fucking disgusting
>>739919046HYPE and AURA.
>>739919363>Every single "what if this character's whole deal is a lie?" theory is complete fucking dogshit
>>739918476The identity of the Knight is narrowed down considerably by one single fact. Dark Worlds, how they look and what their contents are, are all determined by the one who makes them. And we know that aside from Second Sanctuary, the Card Kingdom, Cyber City and TV World have all shared the same "setting". First/Third Sanctuary can be argued to share that setting too, but it's still unclear (the fact that biblioxes are the same in TV World and the Sanctuaries seems to indicate this though). In other words:>Every Dark World aside from the one Susie made has the same "lighting" and the same "setting".>Meaning their maker has a consistent view>Kris made the TV World, so it has to be the same "lighting" that Kris has>It's specifically called out that Kris used to play games of make-believe with "that girl" featuring King, Queen, Tenna, etc.So whoever "That Girl" is, is the Knight. It's as simple as that. Unless this is some assbackwards reach back into KrisKnight, in which case, fuck you toby
>>739919471It's the girl with Kris's Soul, obviously.
>>739918827>>739918868>beat chapter 5 (snowdin)>game 'ends'>"CHAPTER 0 unlocked. proceed?">get put in the vessel, explore gaster's shattered world (true lab equivalent)>acquire the shelter key>load back into chapter 5's after-darkworld exploration segment (reloading your save after the forced flawed pacifist ending)>unlock the shelter (getting back into the ruins)>get to the end of the shelter (flower bed)>fall into the depths (fall from the surface)>work your way through the depths>final boss time>FRIEND - KING OF THE DARK
>>739919471I think 1st and 3rd sanctuary have to be alvin, I don't see how gerson would be revived otherwise
>>739919471>determined by the one who makes themWhy would King mirror Susie? Dess has never met her, which would narrow the opening of that fountain down to the students and school crew.Plus Castle Town is weird. It accepts darkners from everywhere, but not Gerson.
>>739919171Yeah I've never thought anything was wrong with how they're used in Deltarune.
>>739919657King "mirrors" Susie because toby likes thematical callbacks. That's it.>Plus Castle Town is weirdThe fucking weirdest part about Castle Town is that the first time Kris sees the entrance to that Dark World, he gets spooked. Take a moment to think about that. Kris should KNOW that there was a Dark World in the closet, right, if it was part of the plan? It's not. Someone else made it. Not Kris nor the Knight.
>>739919609ch 5 will already be loaded with the final egg and final shadow crystal, leave chapter 0 shenanigans as the side quest for ch 6
Replaying ch4 and I got to thinking: the image of supposedly Ralsei is kind of ambiguous, right? What if he's NOT the third hero??
>>739918961That's possible. It's very likely the final conflict is facing and writing your own prophecy so us going inside the real depths to change the prophecy and write your own ending is likely. Instead of ascending to reality we fall into a deeper fantasy.
I had a fucked up revelation at the end of the last thread:>Kris always used to prank Noelle>Dess always used to protect Noelle from Kris's pranks>Kris stopped pranking Noelle and being mean to her at all after Dess disappearedIf Kris was only pranking Noelle to get Dess's attention, imagine how badly that would ruin Noelle's life.
>>739919793The third hero is the one we know the most about. It has to be either Ralsei or Asriel, no buts.
>>739919657King is a character that Kris invented before they ever knew Susie. Him echoing Susie's words at the end of Chapter 1 is the narrative wrapping a bow on her development for that chapter. They have no relation whatsoever in-story.
>>739919357In Persona games Christmas is the ultimate date time so I believe this.
>>739919625Dess knew Gerson as her teacher, she could revive him.
>NO ONE ELSE MATTERSNO ONE ELSE MATTERS>NO ONE ELSE MATTERSNO ONE ELSE MATTERS
>>739919657Gerson can only exist in the church fountains because he's a dustner, it's not that weird that he can't exist in Castle Town.
>>739920015I am genuinely confounded as to what the mini soul does. Is it us? Does it just give us direct control over her? Probably right?
>>739920023I do think Ralsei's spiel about Castle Town being a "Pure" Fountain is bullshit and the reason so many darkners are fine there is that it's a fucking storage closet so the Darkners just need to physically exist to be fulfilling their purpose.
>>739919861>>739919785>King "mirrors" Susie because toby likes thematical callbacks.That's what I'd have said back in the day, but now that we know Queen mirroring Toriel and Carol and Tenna mirroring the divorce, I think there has to be something going on, even if it was just "Kris made the card kingdom fountain and imprinted Susie into King and Lancer".>Kris should KNOW that there was a Dark World in the closet, right, if it was part of the plan?Maybe he was just pretending, maybe he knew the day would come but he had no idea of when, maybe there is no conspiracy at all and we all misunderstood the plot yet again.
>>739920090It's not a mini-soul, it's just blood. People will be disappointed when it isn't a new soul in 5.
>>739920102ramb was just doing his purpose and got petrified anywayplus the church is weird about petrification, wicabel is petrified by the 1st sanctuary fountain but comes back to life when the 3rd sanctuary door opens, which implies the 1st and 3rd fountains are made by different people both with an intimate connection to gerson
>>739920102I don't see why he would lie about this. As far as we know he's right, Castle Town's fountain is special.
>>739919785>The fucking weirdest part about Castle Town is that the first time Kris sees the entrance to that Dark World, he gets spooked.A huge obstacle to Kris Knight was the fact that Kris and Susie getting sent to the closet, and thereby starting the events of the game, was not a planned maneuver but basically coincidence because of Alphys (Noelle even volunteers to go with Susie before Alphys cuts her off). Knowing what we know about The Prophecy now, it's possible that "the plan" was relying on Fate here. The stage had been set, so The Cage and The Girl would go and take down the King, and they would naturally meet The Prince along the way.It seems like Kris has to have been introduced to the Dark World to have gotten roped into this shit in the first place, but that doesn't mean they were familiar with it. They had probably been taken back to the Shelter before, a place that they knew was Dark and Evil and Bad. Seeing something like that in the fucking school probably made all of this feel Real for the first time, and brought back memory of what happened at the Shelter. It makes perfect sense that Kris would be genuinely nervous and even afraid.Same thing with Kris seemingly being overwhelmed when you fight The Knight, it's probably only the second time they've seen Dess like that after so many years and it must stir up a lot of strong and complex feelings, especially in that context.
>>739920102>>739920327toby is just coming up with rules on the spot, the same way he did for soul mechanics in UT
>>739916803Noelle is a schizo who push us around as the Knight. Susie can save us and give us real love.
>>739920280Ramb only got petrified after the games didn't matter anymore. Which is why they petrify earlier if you don't do the Mantle games all the way. As far as we've seen the only real thing that affects Darkners petrifying is them fulfilling their purpose in the dark world or not. Hell Ralsei probably only doesn't petrify because his whole purpose is assisting the heroes.
>>739920404ramb petrifies before you finish mantle
>>739920280Ralsei already interprets/justifies the Third Sanctuary's similarity to the First one as the result of the Dark Worlds mixing, so it makes some sense (and fits the overall theme it seems like they're going for with the music and everything) that the Second Sanctuary also "flowed back" into the Third one, justifying why the Second darkners can be thereThis also gives a thin enough justification for Gerson being able to come back at the end
Last stand against Noelle
>>739916803Don't worry Noelle, i will save you from your kinda mean mom and the fucking lizard that is stealing my protagonismAlso FRIEND because you tortured virtual petsI WILL make this a traditional RPG
>>739920448They full petrify if you don't finish Mantle and only half petrify if you're on track to do it. Because Ramb was the power strip for the game console. Once Tenna stopped the games Ramb had no purpose, unless of course you had that last game of Mantle to do. It's not like Ralsei hasn't "embellished" or simplified things before.
I really think Chapter 5 is THE chapter that will make or break fans. With that in mind I loathe to imagine what wretched creatures would post in these threads 2 years after Chapter 5, if the WAIT is going to be anything like last time. And I fear I'll be one of them
>>739920531I'm still keeping the possibility the first fountain was made by someone elseI'd say Alvin. He is already suspicious with the grave digging, would have been around after service, his fountain is smaller because he has less determination, obvious Gerson connection, and the darkners there represent a more strict relation with the prophecy.
>>739917070No I just wanted lesbians to not happen
>>739920595ramb is taken away even if you don't finish mantle
>>739920682Yeah but the time it takes for him to petrify still distinctly changes based on how much purpose he has left in the Dark World. Him being nabbed after doesn't really matter for that.
>>739917312These threads are being kept by autism and autism alone.Can you imagine? Can you imagine how fucking powerful and autistic a fanbase has to be to have back-to-back bump limit threads on the daily with NOTHING to go off of?
>>739920749while under janny fire mind you. they're still salty about Deltarune for whatever reason
>>739919793I'm all in on that prophecy being an "old" prophecy whose events already happened. Pic related supports the idea these exact dark worlds have existed before, and that Kris and Asriel and "that girl" were playing around in dark worlds. I bet that mural shows Kris, Dess, and Asriel, who are the the first second and third heroes respectively. That's why the mural that says "AND LAST, WAS THE GIRL.AT LAST, WAS THE GIRL." shows the rudebuster symbol, which signifies Susie entering into the prophecy all the way at the end (long after the events of Kris, Asriel, and Dess' adventures)
>>739920852Why not just go to /vg/ instead of dealing with the jannies?
>>739920626I think there is a feeling of "unease" in the air now.Toby got a lot of controversies in a short period of time, has gone completely silent even for things like the recent vinyl release, and there aren't any long term memes for people to latch on. All shippers got a ton of fuel and they're rabid about it. Even more mystery boxes to be opened.It's not a certain doom but there are a lot of expectations, all weighting down on a single chapter that will have the job to sustain the discourse for the next 3 years. Chapter 5 will have the toughest release of all except for the very last release.
>>739920912
>>739920956i'd rather continue raping the janny than willingly go to /vg/
>>739920956With all due respect, have you fucking seen /vg/? I don't fucking like circlejerk bullshit that doesn't talk about the game I wanna talk about
>>739916803what's her defect?
>>739920912Catty will be vindicated>But, like, what's amazing, is how, like, these heroes,>Are like, oh my god, they're like...>The thing is, they could be like, any one of us, you know?>So, like, that's the thing, like,>You gotta keep in mind we could ALL be!!!>Someone that might change the world, right?
>>739921064i agree with the image but we do have an association with the rude buster looking like that the carpet in susie's castle town room looks the same as the prophecy panel, which means it probably is supposed to be rude buster despite it being not as triangular as it should be
>>739919171it's gotta be exhausting to have a conversation with catti tho
>>739920359I think it's possible that Kris did know there was a dark world at the school, considering he's part of the fuckass roaring plot groupchat with Carol, but he just didn't expect to get thrown into it so he had to play along with Susie. I like the idea that Susie totally fucked up the grand plan just because she ate Alphys' chalk. Susie does kind of represent total chaos and breaking of prophecy already, so it would make sense that she accidentally became the hero.
>>739921120lack of a good dicking by a human man
>>739920956I jump into the /trash/ in my spare time, but whatever disease they have over there in /utg/ makes them genuinely deranged lunatics. If I lurk for too long there I get scared.
>>739920956have you ever actually been to /utg/?that place is hell.
>>739920956I am not interested in cut writsts, literal shit art, and having to pretend to care about pseudo-namefags.
>>739921134The reason Catti talks like that is because she's actually too fat to get more than a few words out without being out of breath.
>>739921131The carpet is made by Ralsei though
>>739921268And Ralsei knows the prophecy nigga, I trust him to associate that symbol with who he believes it to be
>>739921074>>739921114>>739921181>>739921185>>739921219I'm just a passerby, so don't take it the wrong way i was just asking! I was just saying back to back bump limit threads every day is pretty much a general. But if /utg/ is a shithole the i understand why you'd be here
ralsey....show me your car.....show me your car ralsey.....
>>739921340It's all good anon.Not a general. We're just that autistic about DELTARUNE
>>739921268>>739921318the only way for that to work and the panel to not be associated with susie is if ralsei is intentionally jebaiting susie into her assuming she's the girlin theory this is possible since every chapter has the 'close eyes and thing about susie' moment, but iirc only the ch1 one is mandatory
>>739917312the autism in these threads have reached critical mass where the simple act of complaining about these threads is enough to sustain them. our main discussion fuel IS the lack of discussions
>>739921340>back to back bump limit threads every day is pretty much a generalyou have no idea what a general is
>>739921340All good. Also, jannies are faggots and anything that isn't strictly about sloptendo's shitch 2 or gacha or whinging about woke gets a warning for being off-topic, fuck 'em. my personal schizo theory is that they're holding a grudge over Deltarune 3&4 autism overshadowing The Switch 2 & Bananza in the catalog last year
>>739920956>Why not just go to /vg/ instead of dealing with the jannies?huh lets see>prosthey have a lot of drawfags>conssaid drawfags use their own shit and period blood for art.yeah the chapter 2 days were fun but holy fuck no to returning
>>739921587ough doelle
>>739920956Tenna, Spamton and Pippins general, basically fujos containmentHere i can post doe sex freely
>>739921340"a shithole" barely even begins to describe /utg/anyways thats not what a general is.a general is a glorified chatroom vaguely themed around the topic discussion, a thread actually talks about the game./vg/ sucks because actual discussion about the topic is secondary (or even not relevant at all) in favor of interpersonal drama and completely unrelated retardation.this breeds schizos of the worst degree, a single one of those dropped into our threads could completely destroy us (and it did for a while)
>>739921587>said drawfags use their own shit and period blood for art.proof?
>>739921638what's that? Doughelle, you say?
>>739921659what about /doe/?
>>739921707you ruined it
>>739920645I absolutely think that's a possibility. The thin Fountain which goes completely unremarked on and unexplained has to mean something, and I can't think of any explanation for that or a reason why The Knight would have made both fountains.When Susie points out the Third Sanctuary's similarity to the First, Ralsei does offer an explanation suggesting that The Knight made both, but this is clearly speculation on Ralsei's part ("... I suppose") and not a statement of fact, like when he explains about the old man.>S: ... It's... the same as before. The first time.>R: ... I suppose the original Dark World... Was formed partially of the fountain inside there, too.>R: The Knight's two fountains...>R: So, it makes sense... it would be a similar world as before.>S: ... just similar, huh.
>>739921727last time i checked it was the designated yume containment and bitches there posted kris thirsting more often than actual noelles, but that was like pre-ch3&4 era
>>739920956>Why not just go to /vg/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8KqCp76qqQ
you guys are welcome on /vrpg/ if you have something to contribute
>>739921813Just make an alt general without schizo bullshit or something.
>>739921846Also this there was a Deltarune general with over 2000 posts there a few days ago if it isn't still there.
>>739921846I think thats a good backup idea if the crackdown gets to the point where they actually want to exile the deltarune threads
>>739921691
>>739921876Nothing really stopping them from invading with their bullshit. /vg/ is evil.>>739921846isn't that board for the yellow fellows?
>>739921727It's fineHowever i'm too lazy so i just check /v/
tranny thread
>>739921340Every general on /vg/ is utterly useless to discuss the actual games the generals are supposed to be about. If the jannies want to actually help clean up the site, they'd start purging the filth that pollutes /vg/.
>>739922000I think it's neat that females can have their own equivalent of cum jar autism
>>739919471so noelle or dess? cause that's literally the only options it could be
>>739922000oh FUCK I THOUGHT THAT WAS MARKER
>>739922000That is foul
>>739921660Ok but maybe /v/ should be for games that have released or had content updates in the past 6 months, and competitive games where the discussion can be about esports or whatever. Maybe a year for games like Elden Ring that legitimately have a lot of content. The futaba board format doesnt seem great if youre trying to keep endless lore theorycrafting going about something like deltarune
>>739921876>Just make a general without schizo bullshit
>>739922019It's more for fangames in general, I know not a lot of people make fangames but on the off chance you ARE making one, it's a good place to post it.Or if you found one that you like and no one talks about it and you want to talk about it.
>>739922019>isn't that board for the yellow fellows?I remember there used to be threads for the canon games there at the same time as the fangames onesIn fact, the yellow threads were all here at first and were almost constant like the canon ones, as interest on uty went down some of the dev anons started posting on vrpg because the threads can stay for longer there, and all the remaining anons migrated there eventually
>>739922000>I share a fandom with these people
>>739922104>maybe /v/ should be for games that have released or had content updates in the past 6 monthsMaybe you should shut the fuck up and stop being a wannabee jannywho's not talking about VIDEO GAMES
>>739921727/doe/ is just a schizophrenic hellhole(to no ones surprised) split between constant horny posting and one retarded sperging so hard that he drove out most of their drawfags because they didn't like kress. /sus/ is pretty chill though and if one wanted you could probibally make a functional human or general deltarune chick general and it'd be fine for the coom but eh
>>739922000MOOOOOOOODS MOOOODS
Why is every Chapter 4 theory some stupid bullshit like this
>>739922335because 3 and 4 have nothing going for them
>>739922000ahahahahahaharad
>>739922335we have more information than last timeplus after all the big time theories were killed we needed some new ones that sounded even more insane
>>739922335because they get excommunicated if their theories go outside of the boxso instead they become more and more inbred until you end up with nothing but retarded shit
>>739922259What are they doing behing the bushes?
>>739922259>general deltarune chick generalI wish we could get more darkner girl porn
>>739922253Neither are you you're metaposting just saying
>>739922335Just watched this one about color use relating to elemental pairs and it isn't horrid https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k2c8gRv55mE
>>739922384a daughter that isn't lesbian
>>739922000
>>739922104>maybe /v/ should be for gamescorrect! /v/ is for videogames.glad we could settle this, now piss off and torment the porn, polticial, eceleb, gacha, frogpost, wojak, consolewar, and salesfag threads instead of the videogame threads.
>>739922396same
>>739922000Are you telling me doe rape posting is actually vanilla as fuck, i'm impressed
>>739922990doe rape isn't even the most unhinged shit doetards have come up with
>>739922523Color analysis is up there with numerology in terms of "if you look into this beyond what's very straightforward and deliberate you're going to go insane"Yellow (or gold) and Pink (or purple), that's definitely SomethingRed and Green and Blue, well yeah that is something, but it's also just primary colors. There's definitely times where that means something, but it doesn't always mean the same thing every time, and sometimes it's just color theory.basically I've had enough of Deltarune teenagers posting "green and in-between!!" at random bullshit on my twitter feed the last few months
>>739921727/doe/ is alrightnot as autistic as /utg/ some swell fellas
I'm still not sure if I love or absolutely despise that Toby fills his game with theory-bait.
>>739917952I doubt he actually buried the remains. People can hang on to ashes for a while despite having a site ready to go.
>>739923064i still don't understand why greenster is treated like this huge revelation ok, he's greenso what?
>>739923180The theorybaiting is just part of the episodic bullshit. Because Toby has very precise sensibilities, only letting little information be obvious, his fans can't help it but research every single detail about everything
>>739918550the baseball moon as well
Andrew Cunningham has been responding to comments on stream for the past 6 hours. Jesus Christ.
>>739923064He managed to figure that ice and water are elemental pairs with itAlso that most deltarune colors are from ms paint
>>739922990yes these threads are cringe but believe me they could be MUCH more deranged
>>739923298Yeah, he does this for every video of his
>>739923215That's exactly it, it doesn't really mean anything or tell us anything we didn't already know ("Gaster has some association with the DEVICE and Spamton's strings" wow! no shit!)So it's just used to establish Red-Green-Blue as some significant color theming and extrapolate bullshit about other supposed example of this from there, like the Three Heroes (nevermind that Susie is purple).Also nevermind the fact that the whole supposed relationship between Sans, Gaster and Papyrus is completely hypothetical and not understood at all, we don't even know close to everything about just Sans and Papyrus's family relationship and history>>739923305>He managed to figure that ice and water are elemental pairsI didn't watch the video obviously but that's not how this works, Elements and Elemental Pairs are a defined flavor/gameplay thing in the game, you can't deduce that one exists, it's either there in the code or it's not.https://deltarune.wiki/w/Element
>>739923180That's the love of the game baby, that's what keeps the neurons activatedYes he will make a whole fucking meme boss fight about fan theories, yes he will throw kerosene on the fire by having them all reference cryptic bullshit, yes he will put the freedom motif in the minigame music and fucking grandpa_semi.midi in the corner and laugh at us going insane over his shit
Since people in this thread were talking about how Kris totally doesn't know anything that's going to happen and is being blindsided by everything:In Undertale, monsters are sensitive to "killing intent. And actually, if you truly want to kill a monster, they'll take more damage purely out of your emotional intent to harm them.This actually applies to Deltarune as well, though nobody mentions it.When you fight darkners. When you "genocide" darkners. They just run away. When you beat up all the darkners in a chapter, they're simply noted as "not wanting to see you".When Kris fights Tenna, he's genuinely trying to harm him, and so he does extra damage.When Kris fights the knight, he's holding back as much as possible, and so he barely does any damage.But Noelle, she's capable of doing lethal attacks to darkners- for the same reason as Undertale. She thinks it's "not real", and she thinks they're just "enemies" to be wiped out.We know that Kris, in his fight against Spamton at the end of Snowgrave, goes all out. He uses moves that make him boss level all on his own. But, why would he do that? Why would he go full-power against someone like Spamton, and not someone like King? Why did Kris start screaming after he fought Spamton on the regular route?It's not because Kris is a precious little baby who is frightened by "being controlled like a pupppet".Spamton was a complete aberration. Spamton genuinely wanted to kill Kris and take his soul. Spamton's presence was one of the most unplanned things in the entire game so far in relation to the entire plan.Kris freaked the fuck out because fighting Spamton is the one and sole uncontrolled thing that happens in the chapters we have up to this point.
>>739923868Anyone who still believes Kris is innocent and being taken for a ride is... well I don't want to be rude but they aren't paying attention. I feel bad for people who got attached to the fanon story in Chapter 2 and can't accept what's actually happening.
>>739923643Element 3 is part water so he might be on to something if there's an actual ice using enemy in the future(unless I'm forgetting something)
>>739919046no you subhuman jjkspic, I don't
>>739919363the common motivations they put up for him don't make much sense either. Rudy is one of the few characters directly connected to Dess who has seemingly moved on.
I have a theory /v/Kris gets drunk on the roof of the school with birdly during the festival, lamenting how he cant get a date, before drunkenly falling to his death
>>739919937Hell, an Old Man made by Alvin would probably have quite a few differences from the one we meet.
>>739924487
>>739920015Now show the part where she furiously masturbates in public while she helplessly sees her own body puppeteered by us.
>>739922000this is who you people are you can deny it all you want and say "thats not me" it is you're mentally ill
>>739924487And where's the part when they kiss?
>>739919821>total doe mental collapse
>>739924487kek not many will get the reference.
>>739916803Oh yeah. Well, our lady of North Korea is better. Her name is Onionsan.
>>739924753Literally me after finally having Kris submit to me. Who needs Noelle when I get myself an emo girl? GOODBYE NOELLE!
You figure she'll ever get top 5 in queen of /v/?
>>739918929Rudy doesn't have to run. He just has to walk around, hide in closets, and stab the ground. He's weak in the light world but strong in the darkworld. The only running in the light world was done by Asgore carrying Undyne.
>>739925209God, I hope.
>>739920626Toby has to intentionally fuck up weird route to ruin it, could happen but the most basic shit is Kris and Noelle in questionable situationsNormal route does have so many chances to make or break and it's not just yurishit, you could make a tier list of shit that could ruin or improve ch5
>>739925386>Toby has to intentionally fuck up weird route to ruin itHe censored the wilting rose, my faith in him is severely shaken from that fact.>you could make a tier list of shit that could ruin or improve ch5yours?
>>739925386I really hope normal route just gets absolutely fucked. I hope castle town fucking explodes and all the mercy you gave to the darkners doesn't matter. I want Susie utterly miserable by the end of all this as her escapist adventure fantasy of friendship falls apart into a true nightmare. I hope Weird Route becomes a begrudgingly fucked up good end.
>>739925209wasn't there some autistic rules in place to prevent any deltarune characters from being nominated last year or am i thinking of a different game
>>739925569Noelle was there but she dropped out early due to... I forget who it was but it was kind of a meme pick and she was robbed. ROBBED
>>739925386I really hope the reverse Undertale theory is true and chapter 5 is the Snowdin parallel. A pleasant dark world without huge stakes and many memorable new faces, no matter how hard it would go against the current direction of the story. Justify it by having it be the calm before the storm, or by telling the main party they need to stop and breath for a moment.
>>739921707you enhanced it
>>739923868>People in this thread were talking about how Kris totally doesn't know anything that's going to happen and is being blindsided by everything:That's not what was said. It's made clear that the making of the fountains has been planned and Kris has been kept informed. Kris having a genuine reaction to presumably seeing a Dark World outside of the Shelter for the first time, and encountering Dess again under highly stressful and complicated circumstances doesn't change that.>In Undertale, monsters are sensitive to "killing intent.>This actually applies to Deltarune as well,That's not true. There is a specific explanation for why Undertale monsters are harmed by killing intent which does not apply to Deltarune.>* Because they are made of magic, monsters' bodies are attuned to their SOUL.>* If a monster doesn't want to fight, its defenses will weaken.>* And the crueller the intentions of our enemies, the more their attacks will hurt us.>* Therefore, if a being with a powerful SOUL struck with the desire to kill...Darkners don't die because nobody is actually trying to kill them and they have the choice to run away rather than fight to the death. The Titan Spawn and the Sound of Justice DO die, because they're mindless creatures that can't be reasoned with and have to be killed.Noelle's freezing circumvents usually behavior because enemies are frozen and do not have the opportunity to flee. This isn't based on Noelle's perception or feelings, it's just how IceShock works, even on the normal route. Likewise, Berdly doesn't "die" if you just IceShock him, but he will if you cast SnowGrave, because being "Fatal" is an inherent property of the spell."Killing intent" is not a factor in how Deltarune's battles work any more than it would be in real life or any other story.
>"killing intent"It's called bloodlust. Why can't weebs translate words correctly?
>>739916803doe pussy
>>739922523Haven't clicked the video yet but just remembered someone posting something from another website about color stuff with CMYK and RGB (there was some pipes in the undertale core that had cyan magenta yellow. Kris Noelle and Susie icons are cyan magenta yellow, cymk makes black like darkness. Ralsei being a green outlier and perhaps there being someone important for blue and red(probably dess red. Lancer is blue but to silly for me to think as important))
>>739925543The rose does suck but the rest is intact, the couch scene rape vibes is still there, all the dialogue is still the sameBy tier outside of yurishit, things like Asgore full humillation, Carol doing comically evil shit, boss not being a step-up from a TitanAlso cool shit like Seam crystal purification fight, conclusion of the eggman, Dess flashback, Onion-san is fucking back as a gonerAnd many other things i can't think about right nowI have both hopes and fears for ch5
>>739926085>That's not what was saidThat is what was said and there was at least some paltry discussion about, "what does Kris know going into dark worlds?">That's not true, the explanation in Undertale only applies to UndertaleYeah? And? The point being that this mechanic of how battles work diagetically is also included in Deltarune and played around with.>Darkners don't die because nobody is trying to kill themUh... Yeah? That is what I'm saying.>They do try to kill things which pose a real threatAgain, fully in line with what I'm saying.>Noelle can kill people not because of her own perception or feelings, it's just how the spell works>"Noelle doesn't kill Berdly because she wants to kill him it's because she uses a spell specifically meant to kill people."This is the height of pedantry.Either way the alternative to all this babble is that Kris is holding back at all times because he is personally unthreatened by absolutely everything the fuck crew encounters. Which holds to the point being that it's all one big farce.
>>739926401Killing intent is an actual narrative mechanic that makes you hit monster really fucking hard in undertale
I found a girlfriend on 4chan and she moved in with me. 4 years after that I was completely miserable and finally snapped and kicked her out.
>>739926895Killing intent is a widespread anime term that is accurately translated as bloodlust.
>Rudy can't be the knight because he's weak and dying. It's not like there's an anime trope about old dying men actually being super stro- AAAAAACK
>>739921064>this is NOT the rude buster symbol>literally called "rude buster" in the fileshuh?
>>739926401Only ESL's complain about people using English to say things more than one way. Because they only learned it the one way and are absolutely convinced that any other way of saying it is wrong somehow.
killing intent isn't translated as bloodlust because they're not the same thingsimple as
>>739927049true they also don't know that crossed can also mean stricken out instead of written on
>>739927020I would think the weak and dying argument potentially actually strengthens the argument, like him going out and doing fucked up dark shit is WHY his health is failing.
>>739927160Yes they are. Bloodlust is the western name for the same concept. It's translated as killing intent for the same reason One Piece fags translated friend as nakama.
>>739926697>boss not being a step-up from a TitanAnon, the Titan was both final-boss tier in terms of presentation and story but also incredibly lackluster in terms of mechanics, bullet patterns and so on.The game going into perpetual escalation isn't a good thing, it's like saying hotland was bad because the Mettaton stuff wasn't as important as the Undyne stuff.
>>739927049>Only ESL'sso 90% of /v/
>>739927259But "nakama" isn't English. "Killing intent" is.
>>739921064i have no argument for this.
>>739926756You are fundamentally misunderstanding that "killing intent," or "the cruel intentions of our enemies" as Undertale puts it, is not just "attacking someone seriously with intent to kill them" but monsters having a very real physical vulnerability to a human's emotional feelings of hatred and malice, because they are near-incorporeal creatures of magic. The difference between a child attacking Toriel and doing 200 damage vs 20,000 damage is having true and pure hatred for her in their heart and sincerely wishing to do her harm without reserve.This concept does not apply to Deltarune, period.Deltarune does use variations in how a character does damage as part of its storytelling, illustrating their intentions and relationship with other characters, as plenty of other games and stories do. The specific concept of Undertale monsters being vulnerable to emotional damage, which does not apply to any group in Deltarune, does not need to be invoked to explain that.The Knight does a shitload of damage to Tenna backstabbing him while he's completely off-guard. This is because Tenna was not defending himself and the extremely powerful Knight attacked him viciously without mercy. Tenna was not harmed by The Knight's emotional intention toward him, he was harmed by The Knight fucking "smashing him to pieces" with their sword. If Tenna was an Undertale monster, this attack would have immediately killed him.
>>739926974But UT monsters doesn't have blood thoughever, it's dustMaybe it should be called DustLust?
>>739921064>>739927521The argument is that Prophecy panel is literally named "rudebuster.png"
>>739927537You are correct as far as it concerns Dark Worlds, but there is no reason to believe these rules wouldn't apply in the Light World between a human and monster.
>>739927676filenames are not canon.
>>739927686>there is no reason to believe these rules wouldn't apply in the Light World between a human and monster.Yes there is.
>>739927676i now have an argument for this
Toby may be a perfectionist but he definitely put less thought into his own words than you guys.>* It'd be nice to... have someone to watch it with again.>* Heheh.>* ... what about, uh, Catti? Doesn't she like scary stuff?>* Umm... well, she just... takes it a little serious?>* Like, analyzes all the magic and stuff. It's a little...>* Haha, that's wicked annoying.I have no fucking clue man. Toby can write this, or the Mikes, and you fuckers will keep arguing about the same things the same way.
>>739927696Fortunately, I just posted an image of the rug in Susie's room having the same triple crescent shape depicted in the Prophecy
The real counter is that "the girl" and the second hero are two separate people.
>>739927749I don't see what you're getting at here
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=48QK9uLikQk
>>739927749The mikes weren't about people getting into the weeds analyzing Toby's exact wording, really, were they? They were more a matter of people getting super attached to a handful of initial assumptions that come from a surface level reading of the game and letting those flavor all the attempts to read deeper into it.
>>739927720Monsters have Determination in Undertale. It is "the power of the SOUL".Monsters just don't have and cannot tolerate significant amounts because it requires physical matter to moderate, which they have only a little bit of (dust).All that Queen dialogues tells us about Determination is that the amount required to open a dark fountain is small enough that it can be done by a Monster, which makes sense given that Gaster opened one in Undertale, presumably without the use of Human Determination.
>>739927932Please add summaries when posting random theory slop videos.
>>739927957Them and Ramb, but Noelle's dialogue was about that.
>>739927989Monsters in Deltarune are corporeal creatures of flesh and blood. This is no longer speculation.
>>739927749That dialogue also has multiple meanings tho, like how Noelle is acually shitting on Catti just like she did with Kris, normal route Noelle is truly something else
>>739927989Monsters aren't made of dust in Deltarune. They have physical form, and organs, and stuff, aside from the true exceptions like ghosts. That one rabbit monster who asked Kris if it hurt to be made of blood was just being a complete dumb kid who somehow didn't know he had blood.Correspondingly, monsters seem to have roughly the same amount of Determination as humans in Deltarune.
>>739927997thisbased for basing his theory around board james though
>>739928037Noelle's dialogue was about kicking Cattifags while they're down by establishing that Noelle sees her as like goth girl Berdly
>>739928043Susie is just half-human. Pure monsters don't bleed. See: the rabbit kid, Toriel not cleaning up the blood in Kris's room.
>>739923371I cannot fathom the level of free time people have sometimes and the amount with which they waste on shit like that.
>>739928074>>739928095Correct, and you guys celebrate a mean spirited jab because they happen to be directed at things you dislike. Now try to imagine if it was against something you like in the games.
>>739927997Sorry I just saw th thumbnail and was awestruck to shair it but it's out retards spooky dude in a good way. It connects board James to deltarune
>>739928136>Susie is just half-humanDumb unsupported fanon>Pure monsters don't bleedWhich one is secretly human? Rudy or Carol?
>>739927720even in UT monsters have miniscule amounts of determination, its just that having too much screws them over.could be that fountains require a miniscule amount of determination to open, but closing one takes significantly more (necessitating a human soul)additionally, you post this but ignore everything else>magic biology being real (ghosts, fire elementals, floating hands and orbs) and thus implying magic still being real (yet taboo in some way)>kris's obsession with wanting to be a monster leading to him trying to learn how to perform magic>monsters dusting on death being all but confirmed with how their burial rights are the exact same and susie reacts to the dust glass as if she saw an actual corpse>toriel not recognizing the blood in kris's room as anything noteworthy>toriel needing a "how to care for humans" guidebook, the existence of said guidebook already implying a significant level of deviation between humans and monsters>the bunny asking kris "how it feels to be made of blood">berdly entering a comatose fallen down state after snowgrave>>739928043>one line from susie (the one trying too hard to be edgy) disproves all of the abovehow are people like you still around?at most that proves that susie is the unique one.
>>739925209Nothing furrier than Midna will ever win, most likely.
>>739928136I once thought like you, but there's really no point to introducing a detail like that this late, I think.I still hold that it's suspicious as fuck that Susie knew it was a bloodstain, and knew how to clean them up, while Toriel failed at least one of those two knowledge checks. I don't know what exactly it's supposed to indicate but god damn is it noticeable.
>>739928136>See: the rabbit kidThe same rabbit kid says this>* Hey! Human! Doesn't monsters scare you? Like if that girl bited you!In Undertale rules, monsters are so pathetically outmatched that they failed to take a single human life in the war. Monsters were taught to fear humans, not the other way around.
>>739928216The red dot is symbolic, not literal.
>>739928150Okay i'm actually confused at what are you trying to say, like you put the Catti dialogue as something simple but it has multiple layers and you agree, i'm dumb i dun getit
I love DELTA RUNE and I can't wait to play chapter 5. I just know it will knock my socks off!
>>739928502Alright, I'll spoonfeed youNoelle's dialogue about Catti was another jab at people who expected her to be relevant, the others jabs being Jockington at the church and Catti trying to take her family out of the tree while Susie destroys her with logic and facts.It's also a jab at people who care about consistency of worldbuilding and lore. Toby is saying that he thinks the visceral reaction you get is more important than any internal consistency.
>>739928259The problem is that Toby loves introduces complexity late in his stories. Pulling a "Susie was always half-human" reveal is absolutely something he would do.
I think Deltarune SUCKS!
>>739928075>>739928043I do not mean to be obnoxious but Chapter 4 clearly establishes beyond a reasonable doubt that Monsters are not made of flesh and blood but dust, just like in Undertale. You guys really must just accept what the game is telling you, no matter the cost, or else you are lost in the game and an intolerable sore in discussions about it.
>>739928674He likes introducing the ideas that lead to the sudden reveal early, though. The true lab didn't come out of nowhere.
>>739928640>goofy joke about jockington growing a beard is actually a MEAN SPIRITED JAB at ME, PERSONALLYYou should be institutionalized.
>>739928685Monsters turn to dust when they die, I don't think this means they completely lack biology and are just essentially balloons of dust held together by a bit of magic like in Undertale, when the light world demonstrably doesn't really have "magic".
>>739928674If Susie is half-human then everything we are talking about is foreshadowing and foundation for it, ie not a late addition.
>>739928136Alternatively. Like 90% of hometowns population isn't quite real, and only like, Susie, Noelle, and Kris are alive enough to have blood with everyone else being Goners or some shit.I do think there are some odd connections Susie has with blood though, she's the only character we've seen talk and interact with it much. Honestly I assume we'll get the answer when we can finally read "The Books, The Books Upstairs"
>>739919171it's a weeb thingi suppose it can't be helped... (laughs)
>>739928246>no response
>>739919171Does Deltarune even use that many ellipses?
>>739928736Why would monsters turn to dust when they die if they are made of flesh and blood?You are assuming that the Light World doesn't have magic, but that is not actually established. Monsters do not use magic in the same way they did in Undertale, that is not the same thing as them not having it. If anything, them turning to dust is clear evidence that magic DOES exist and that they're made of it, because that's exactly how it worked in Undertale.
>>739928840I have no clue. This is the first time I've heard of this issue.
Magic clearly does exist because otherwise the dark worlds and titans would not work.
>>739928857Why would a hospital exist where you go lay down and have IVs stuck in your arm if the people they do it to aren't made of fluids? What would be the point? For fucking aesthetics?
>>739928718I'm not talking about the Jockington prophecy you retard, play and read the fucking game:>* Kris. Folled you! Ha Ha, bet you thought I was, Catti!>* Today's Game was wild,! I think we Won... What? "Codes?">* Sorry. don't know That. Never will. Been real.>* For her, I go the big Church Match, as her Substitute Player.>* For me, she Covered in Hair Always. We Do What, the other can n't!Also I remembered another jab, from Catty:>And, like, shout out to my little sister,>Who couldn't make it here today.>IDK what she's doing, communing with demons or something? LOL>Yeah, she like, DOES that.>LOL. So cute am I right???>She should come here and like,>Bask in like, some totally holy light some time.
>>739928840I decided to check and, uh, bros...
>>739928909You know, it could be a thing with Monster Food vs Human Food. If Magic isn't really a thing in Deltarune then maybe Monsters fed exclusively on Human Food have a lot more physicality to them.
>>739927749>Toby may be a perfectionistundertale is explicitly anti-perfectionist and i think it's safe to assume the same about deltarune
>>739928937>look up single comma count>8989>look up "the">7225LMAO
Kris's bloodstain is pretty good evidence that monsters don't bleed. Toriel probably saw it, read in a book that humans ooze out red fluids, and concluded it was perfectly normal.
>>739929024toriel is overbearing in some ways and neglectful in others, this has been the case since undertale
>>739928964undertale was made with kickstarter money by a guy with no coding experiencedeltarune had him overhaul chapter 3 multiple times and he personally oversees the only translation it gets
>>739928998That is not a count of periods, but actual uses of ellipses.
>>739919171ellipses also literally pace the dialogue in-game. it's coded in, same with commas. you'll notice a pause after every set
>>739928816Hey man, sorry to keep you waiting, I just got back from fucking your mother you zoomer faggot>>739928246>could be that fountains require a miniscule amount of determination to openSeems pretty fucking unlikely>magic biology being real implying magic still being real (yet taboo in some way)Deltarune is a supernatural setting where Determination can pull magical worlds from the Earth and your neighbor can be a ghost.Magic, as in practical magic and spells that existed in Undertale, still does not exist in the Light World. Susie and Noelle explicitly cite "magic" and healing "spells" as part of the fantasy of the Dark World, things that are not possible in their reality.>kris's obsession with wanting to be a monster leading to him trying to learn how to perform magicThis is conjecture on your part and misdirection from Toby. Kris has an established interest in the occult.>monsters dusting on death>toriel needing a "how to care for humans" guidebookYes, there are still significant differences between humans and monsters and monsters still turn to dust when they die, distinguishing them from humans and animals. Deltarune monsters are still corporeal.>toriel not recognizing the blood in kris's room as anything noteworthyShe hasn't noticed the bloodstain at all, moron. Toriel is a teacher with a human child and you think she doesn't know what blood is?>the bunnysee >>739928319You must have been too busy sucking cock to respond while you were waiting for me to get done fucking your mother, but that's okay, I can wait>berdly entering a comatose fallen down stateMonsters "fall down" when they're about to die of natural causes, not when they're injuredTry playing Undertale before arguing about it>one line from susieHow about her and Noelle fucking bleeding on screen>no uhh that's not real uhhh Toby just made those assets and wrote that dialogue for no reason, he just forgot monsters don't bleed!Suck my dick, you're better at it than arguing
>>739928640Ah okay now i get it, i thinkI understand people expecting her to be that relevant were wrong, but also they were in ch2 era, it's kinda unfairBut i doubt about the jab in general, like for example in wr we had Kris and Noelle focus, and ch4 it happened again, that was consistentI forgive people for their retard theories like firegrave because ch2 we didn't had that much context
>>739929086yeah anon, I got that, that's why it's so funny there are more "..."s than "the"s
>>739929086Toby is such a chuuni weeb
>>739929086That is indeed obnoxious. Most of those should have been hyphens or dashes (--). Toby doesn't read books, so he's probably unaware of literary conventions.
>>739928246>>739929112threadly reminder that there is zero actual proof that monsters dust naturally in deltarune, both the book and susie dance around it and only go into monster burial rites if it was the same then toby would feel no need explicitly avoid mentioning it when it's a key point of the chapter
>>739929079see "putting love into the parts that [are] most important." pacing an experience is pretty damn importantjust to double-check, this is toby "stray pixel," "giant toilet," "confounding blood-related lore" fox we're talking about, yes?
>>739928909Monsters are not literally bubbles of magic. Their bodies are just made of magic. They have organs which can fail, thus "falling down" or having scars and missing parts.
>>739929112>monsters turn to dust when they die>but absolutely no other rule from undertale is present nope no sir-ee its exclusively dust!the rest of your post isnt worth responding to, maybe try growing a brain
>>739929120>it's kinda unfairThat's why I get offended with shit like this or Mike. I liked Catti but wasn't a huge fan, and I barely looked into Mike back in the day, but this shit it uncalled for.Doesn't want to give Catti a big role? Fine. Doesn't want Mike to be more than a gag? Fine.But what exactly is the objective in going out of your way to make fun of people that expected that? Other than actual contempt against your fans?You could have Catti stay on the side and Mike be just a gag about a backstage guy that never shows up on camera and never call attention to any of that. Just shut up, it's that simple.That's why I'm saying this shit is turning into Homestuck.
>>739928580true!
The Monster Blood stuff is gonna be a Gaster "Is it mixed up?" thing I swear to god.
>>739929194He just has a very awkward list of priorities compared to most other people here. He cares a lot about using the correct words but not about the huge plot hole in the neutral route ending about crossing the barrier.
>>739928037>>739928095what is the catti dialogue in question? i wanna see this
>>739929345What plot hole? Whether you should be able to do it? Do you think the neutral endings really end with you escaping??
>>739929185>if it was the same then toby would feel no need explicitly avoid mentioning itThe question of whether or not monsters are corporeal (ie. bleed) is something Toby deliberately kept vague since at least Chapter 2As of Chapter 4 we know that this was done for the specific purpose of the dramatic and emotional reveal of Susie's hand bleeding when she punches through the Prophecythe pic here >>739929112 is a cut dialogue choice from the church scene in Chapter 4, which would have been the punchline of that whole weird interaction with Noelle approaching Susie where she talks about blood, which comes off as really awkward in the final game because it was removed (because it would unambiguously establish that Noelle has blood)If you were a complete fucking retard like this guy >>739929258 whose mother I just got done fucking, you would have to assume that Toby has some kind of dementia that makes him forget the extremely basic lore of his own story and he just keeps accidentally putting references and assets related to monsters bleeding in his game for "no reason"
>>739929415You pass through the exact same door that leads to the surface in the pacifist ending, but Frisk has no boss monster soul with him.
>>739929381noelle chatting with susie in dess's bedroom while kris beats (You) with a stick
>>739929449The barrier only stops monsters from leaving. Humans can leave whenever.
>>739929528>The barrier only stops monsters from leaving. Humans can leave whenever.
>>739929418>the one that tries too hard to be edgy bleeding in the world of illusions is proof that all monsters have blood>one joke = confirmation that all monsters have bloodmore proof that you arent worth taking seriously.maybe try thinking instead of saying "hurr i fuk ur mum" like a retarded child and you'll be worth arguing with.
>>739929280Shitting on Catti at least there is lore reason, but yeah the mike stuff Toby should have ignored it>>739929381That anon posted it >>739929381But you need the context that she is with Susie, so Noelle was acting kinda mean in generalNo wonder weird route Noelle is superior
>>739929449You don't pass through.
>>739929671Oops i mean >>739927749
i havent played anything made by toby fox, just wondering if he's a one hit wonder or the type of guy to just constantly shit out kino
>>739929687That's headcanon that may be possible but is at no point communicated by the game.It's simpler to excuse by saying the Omega Flowey mess with the seven souls all close happened to push Frisk out of the barrier.
>>739929734hot
>>739929750The latter, probably.
>>739929767The game says you won't get through without a monster soul. You don't have a monster soul. So you don't get through.>shouldn't you just turn around and live in the underground then?Dunno. Black screen ending and all.
>>739929345this is a really roundabout way of admitting he's just not a perfectionistif he cared so much about "using the correct words" i don't think he'd start randomly highlighting every other word in chapter 4 because he just kinda remembered he couldunless you think every one of these words truly needs emphasizing
>>739929750He doesn't miss, it's all been kino since Undertale.
>>739929750"constantly" in the sense of "he's been taking the shit for 10 years"
made a shitty shitpostenjoy
>>739929825dunno anon, maybe "overthinker" is a better word?he keeps altering and iterating on shit that should have just got a "go" as soon as it was good enough, or adding way too much stuff like all the bullshit puzzles on chapter 2
>>739929814>The game says you won't get through without a monster soulAlphys specifically clarifies that one human SOUL isn't "strong enough" on its own, but taking a (boss) monster's soul would make up the difference.Omega Flowey has six human SOULs, more than strong enough to fudge some bullshit.
>>739929750his shit either resonates with you or doesn'tand each different pile of shit has a different resonance
>>739929961Thanks, Doc Gaster.
>>739929825The words are highlighted to indicate what Kris is specifically reacting to/focusing on
thompsonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXeJKyjj0mM
>>739929961Thanks, doc
>>739929750Constantly hits out one wonder every 3-4 years.
>>7399297503 and 4 are shit, don't get tricked
>>739930075what the fuck you're right
>>7399301611 and 4*
>>739929825>>739930075Thinking about it, weird route doesn't have any hightlights right, curious
>>739930217the cutscene in question doesn't happen in the weird route, not sure about other cutscenes though
>>739930217That scene doesn't happen at all.It will play out exactly the same later if you abort the route in Noelle's room, though>>739930251Noelle and Susie don't hang out at all, Noelle ditches Susie after a few minutes to go talk with Kris
>>739929671>Toby should have ignored itYou know what's tragically funny?Toby makes a post sharing the Toy Story 5 trailer, obviously a jab at the Woody theory, and then his fans start discussing if this is foreshadowing or if he is voicing someone in the movie.I don't think he even understands how dense his fans can be.
>>739930161only 2*
>>739928640Catti is very important but only if you found her in the right place during a specific chapter
>>739930386... wait, didn't he actually contribute something to Toy Story 5? Are you proposing he did that as a jab at woody theory?
>>739930251>>739930321Yeah i know that gets skipped for the couch scene, but i did check and not a single hightlight, like Toby could have made the text thorn red here easilyAnd it would say that's nothing, but normal route Noelle's house is full of hightlights
>>739930386>Toby makes a post sharing the Toy Story 5 trailer, obviously a jab at the Woody theoryHey anon, you seem to be misspelling the word "joke" and it's causing some misunderstandings
>>739930480Well, I haven't seen any actual confirmation of that being the case. BUT, considering he got a bit on We Baby Bears, was in the Homestuck animated pilot and also on the credits for Gameoverse, there might be a small chance.
>>739930492I think he probably correctly judged that the whole vibe shift in that scene was way more frightening and effective than the spooky genocide text
I have no argument against my opponent's. I rely on ad hominem to sway the thread.
>>739930540>* Anon definitely misspelled "joke".
>>739930616Ya know, after 10 years of chara posting I can't take the red text seriously anymore, it's just edgy and goofy now.And the doelesting posting will probably do the same to this.
>>739917525I will brag about chara being never ever because charafags or also asriel fags, they're in the same boat genuinely deserve less and keep trying to make cope theories for how chara is relevant and doesn't just exist in the form of Kris being both Chara and Frisk
>>739930764So that's it, we just want the game to take the direction that pisses off fans we don't like? That's it?I felt vindicated watching the Jitterbug scene after criticising Toriel for a decade. And when the high was gone, I just felt sad that two huge icons were brought that low for the sake of cheap shock value.And once again, I'll laugh when Suselle happens and trashes every other ship held by people who spent the last 5 years denying the obvious, then I'll be pissed of with how much time I wasted in this crap.
>>739930764i believe that chara will make an appearance because how can deltarune end without the dynamic duo?
>>739931070the 6 guy and the 9 girltogether they do the 69
>>739926401Killing intent implies you're making a conscious and aware decision to kill, premeditated even.Bloodlust implies you, mentally, lack the capacity to not kill.It's the difference between LV19 and LV20, when you reach the maximum level of violence, you become as violent as a human is capable of being, it's why Sans was such a fucking problem, almost every time he was attacked it was a decision, he could see it coming from a mile away, it's only when you lose control of your own power are you finally able to hit him. It's why Chara can fully and literally reincarnate as your strength, you already surrendered control of your own actions to them in order to defeat the enemies and attain absolute power.
A WingDing just flew over my house!
>>739930616Damn you're right, it would have been goofy if wr was full of hightlights, like the YOU from Carol does feel goofy
I have a killing intent against all party members from this game
Speaking of Weird RouteThe cutscene that plays when Noelle notices the watch... why doesn't she notice that in the normal route?
>>739931068This doesn't work because I actively DON'T want Chara to appear in Deltarune at all kek. Spiting Chara fags is just a bonus.
>>739931356Because she focuses on Susie before running out the room and you don't confront her one-on-one in the hallway>but what if I still have it on in Chapter 4don't worry about it lol
>So that's it, we just want the game to take the direction that pisses off fans we don't like? That's it?i want the games writing to not be shit and nonsensical for the sake of stroking off undertale faggotry.
>>739931356She notices only at the end when she is talking to KrisBut Toby does need to add exclusive dialogue if you have it later
>>739931635and I want the game's writing to not be shit and nonsensical for the sake of stroking off susie faggotry
Toby can only write tomboys. Noelle is his most feminine ever character, but he still couldn't help but make her a tomboy.
>>739931786i agree actually susie is clearly toby's pet character and it's to the game's detrimentthe more we go along the worst it get in this resgard
>>739931860Ahem.
>>739931860>Alphys is a tomboy>Toriel is a tomboy>Chara is a tomboy
>>739931914Chara is a boy
>>739931786WE WILL reclaim MC powers from SusieThis is MY DELTARUNE
>>739931914Alphys is a tomboy. She's literally a genderbent man.
>>739931860is she? nothing she does seems very masculine in nature
>>739931994Liking girls is masculine
>>739931994Her hobbies are masculine. Her best friends are boys. She lusts over women and takes the initiative in asking them out.
>>739932052video games are a pretty bog standard hobby this day in age for both genders, and noelle's games of choice sound like rpg's and a combination of the sims and petzcalling burghly her best friend is stretching it, i would argue she was closer to catti despite likely spending less time with her overalland kris is a
>>739932180well but have you considered noelle is a
>>739932180>kris is aAnon? Anon!? ANOOOOOON!
>>739932235Shhhh. You saw nothing here.
>>739922259That one retard is on /sus/ now too. He's some butthurt xitter tourist who's goal is to derail the threads
>>739931068riddle me this diceman, would having a>MUH CHARA>MUH FLOWEYmoment actually benefit the game?for example if the stupid chara-friend theory was true, how would that actually benefit the game? it'd just be a "LOL UMBER-BAIL! YAY YAY YAY!!!" moment and completely kill any of the moment's actual tension.the same goes for suselle, the reason why people dont want it is because not a single suselle scene has actually been good so far and if that shit continues through CH6+7 it'll ruin the pacing and mood.making stupid theories and anti-writing-quality shippers look retarded in hindsight is only a bonus
>>739931889>>739931965you know whatthe main party has been the weakest part of the game since the starttheir whole shtick in chapter 1 is "susie is mean to someone, ralsei apologizes" repeated various times, i like rpgs where the party members have personalities but it just didn't do it for mein chapter 2 susie is a magnet for shipping shenanigans and ralsei is even more of a faggot weirdoby chapter 4 they are the only part of the game because that shit got almost no unique npcssusie was at her best as an antagonist and reluctant ally, she should either have remained those for longer while breaking out of her shell, or went with the original suzy plan with the big bow where she was just a weird girl instead
Our consensus?https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vToZmxChlw7vpySMDBGEkpbxwqbDNHb2f6SR8VfrON8TUi33LRvTiHW3jDc8UOZsnwgaTH80-YMTUjG/pub
>>739927749Toby "I made Undertale look like shit on purpose" Fox
I can't wait for ch 5 to drop and we still won't get basic answers like monster souls or what's the deal with blood
>>739932534Ironically the most interesting character in the game is the one who never speaks.oh and noelle whenever susie isn't involved in the scene i guess
>>739932621Ralsei's origins/development also interests me. Really, the sticking point is Susie
>>739932369>would having a>>MUH CHARA>>MUH FLOWEY>moment actually benefit the game?I'm a sucker for continuity porn so yes.I still think going from "Let's destroy this pointless world and move to the next" to "ARE YOU THERE? ARE WE CONNECTED?" is the perfect transition between the games, and was the reason I was a Chara Knight fag for a while.Flowey showing up would have gigantic implications, either Sans timeline hopping bullshit or something like Ralsei being him the whole time somehow.
>>739932679Even Ralsei got faggified hard in post Chapter 1 though
>>739922000cursed trips
>>739932537You're the NoelleKnight guy, aren't you?
>>739932621Don't confuse interesting with enjoyable. Kris is intriguing but also more insufferable with every new chapter.
>Person complains about anti-chara fags>Ends up being a chara fag.everytime
>>739932690
>>739922000This is why you should be hesitant to tell people you like Undertale or Deltarune This is how they see you
>>739932534Honestly i kinda agree, the Susie and Ralsei dynamic was repeated, and Kris betrayal to shake up the party status is taking too longMaybe that's why i like weird route better because messing with Kris and Noelle is more fun
>>739932713He was already pretty faggy. >the blushing shit >simping to Kris/the player the whole time(consistent with other chapters)>the fluffy boy shitAt least he got some good moments in 3 and 4.
>>739932741no noelleknight is stupid and makes no sense
>>739932713i really didn't care for ralsei in ch2, but i think he's much, much better in 3 & 4another reason why ch2 is the weakest outside of spamton/ wr
>>739932761Again, I don't care that much about Chara per se, I just like the potential brainfuck that would be for it to be in the game, same for Flowey though I am a proud floweyfag.Like, imagine Tenna getting killed, but instead of the black freak you get a copy of Kris with different colors and a creepy smile. Susie is watching it unfold with no clue on what's the hell is going on.
>>739932747>but also more insufferableTo you, maybe. That closet scene was amazing to me. I love that we have friction with this kid like that.
>>739932560I can't wait for ch5 and give us more Knight candidates, it's gonna be epic
>>739929961Danke, Herr Docktor
>>739932831ch2 just sticks out like a sore thumb in many waysthe whole adventure there is irrelevant for the greater plot besides introducing noelleso many main characters are also irrelevant, lancer was important for susie's growth and the weather couple carry a lot of meaning in them, but sweet cap'n cakes was just pure fluff that is there to look coolthe plot structure is lifted fully from 1, start in a field, then go to a crowded area where the party and aliances change, then get captured and sent to the prison in the villain's lair, the secret boss is a side quest about finding a key to the basement in the villain's lair, the secret boss is a crazy guy with connections to gasterchapter 1 feels more in line with the rest of the game with things like king's betrayal, chapter 2 ends the dark world with the characters laughing like a cheesy sitcom
>>739932921>hey susie, I wanna present you to my aunt, Mary Holiday>she is visiting for the festival
dumb brat
>>739932876>but instead of the black freak you get a copy of Kris with different colors and a creepy smileyeah that'd be abysmal dogshit and wouldnt benefit the full game in the slightest.
>>739933105i can only assume the reason for why ch2 is so tonally different from the rest of the game is that it was supposed to lull players into a false sense of security on what was going on, only to rug pull with kris opening the fountain at the end after the roaring revealit makes sense when you remember that way back in the ch1 days toby wanted to release 2-5 all at once, before realizing the actual scope of the projectit kinda makes sense when you think about it like that the issue is, however, that from what early ch2 stuff we do know about it paints a somewhat darker picture of the chapter that was more in line with ch1, but until toby spills all the beans on what the 'original' deltarune ideas were we'll probably never know for surei personally think that the more lighthearted tone for the normal route is a direct response to the covid lockdowns, which were happening during most of the development
>>739933162>noelle has a cousin called rory nite that looks exactly like the knight>isnt the knight.
>>739933275>prey detected!
>>739933638why did you do that
>>739933397I don't like being mislead like this, and having this "false sense of security" marinate on everyone's minds for over 3 years (and be further pushed with all the spoiled stuff for chapter 3 or the new hometown song) was a shitty move that is going to hurt the perception of the game in the long term.>a direct response to the covid lockdownsI saw some other anon say it was probably to make the weird route stand out more.I do feel the pandemic was part of the reason 3 and 4 are so cynical in comparison, even if it was a subconscious thing.
>>739931860The way she gets scared, how she shakes in terror and her pleas to stop is girly to meAnd boner inducing
>>739933841
>>739929086>naruto's storytime be like
>>739929734"hey buddy, I finally made you score! Are you happy?"
>>739934020Oooh right the protection promise, really funny
>>739933706i think it may have gone better if ch2 had released with another chapter, even if that other chapter was ch3despite everyone considering ch3 to be the designated filler episode, i think ch2 fits that description far better when we look at the big picture at the moment
>>739919793"Muh wrong heroes" would be a fucking copout. Why introduce the whole unavoidable tragedy subplot and give the main characters the easiest way out imaginable? And why would the weird route be a thing if there was never any bad destiny to defy?
>>739931981Wtf you mean? She's just a fat weeaboo.
Dess and Kris are the Knight.
I am the knight
>>739934978HOLY BASED
>>739933840Maybe the funniest post ever written in any deltarune thread.
>>739936019Carol...
>>739934978whats with yiik-likes and mole/ss/tation
You are the knight
>>739922000Based and very neatly drawn you've got a good artstyle
mo/ll/estation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhSWxyEW8Rc>watch new video going over the knight candidates>guy ranks Rudy Knight as a strong #2>states none of candidate have an explanation for how Undyne was carriedWhy does not a SINGLE PERSON outside of here mention the Rudy + Asgore theory? It's the strongest piece of evidence for Rudy, yet not a single theorist on youtube brings it up, not even the dedicated Rudy-knight video guy. Is this another FemKris scenario where we made up a theory nobody else did? Did nobody else have that idea?
>>739937119>Why does not a SINGLE PERSON outside of here mention the Rudy + Asgore theory?There's literally a reddit meme made about it on the subreddit.
>>739937179They meme about Asgore carrying Undyne? Then why doesn't a single youtuber bring it up? Seriously. Not a single one.
>>739937234Because no youtuber famous enough believes in Rudy Knight and uses that excuse i guess.
Stroking Noelle's fluffy hindquarters.
How would you make deltarune better?
>>739936719if you think that’s good from her you haven’t seen anything. that artist has a very skilled and weird as fuck reputation on /vg/
>>739937529>she's a deviantart inflation fetishistthat explains so much
>>739929825Can't tell if Susie so confused and suspicious becuase she expect Noelle to be single or whether she hope Kris is not too close with Noelle so she can date him.
>>739937119where does he rank the "toby made a pedophile deer rape a kindergartener" knight theory
>>739935715i think thats my biggest fear for deltarune.that at the end of it kris just ends up as 'the spectator' after the hell he went through with the conspiracy.>does everything in his power to save everyone and get things back to how they were>even as susie steals his childhood friend>even as his mom gets boned by the janitor thats been tormenting him for the past few days>even as his dad falls to schizophrenia and might end up as a victim in all of this>even as the prophecy labels him as "the cage" - grandest goal being to get the soul to the fountain. >even as carol makes it clear that (you) are significantly more important than him>even as the soul is looking for every chance to ditch his unhelpful ass>even if dess gets brought back as a result back, she'll just fuck off with asriel never to be seen again.>his reward for pushing through and persevering? completely sidelined, all his efforts at getting things back to the way they were wasted, and he's just a discarded tool that could've been replaced with some other unlucky fuckhonestly a solid "what the actual fuck, toby?" moment if he goes through with it.
>>739932560Chapter 5 is the key chapter>Festival ferris wheel will confirm the main OTP for the rest of the chapters>we will get enough hints about the Knight to tell if that's Carol, Dess or NoelleThis will be the most important chapter of all beside ending itself.
>holy fuck i fucking hate these weebs
>>739937879>that ladder in the back alleyThink we'll ever get to climb it?
>>739937579susie sees right through noelle's bullshit.>she keeps bringing kris up unprompted>she speaks about him with a certain fondness even while trying to hide it >she has a wallpaper of her and kris (maybe even multiple)>she has a pet name for kris (granted, susie doesnt know this or the next thing)>she has a cactus named after her pet name for kris>she almost certainly explained the "it felt like a concert just for me" thing.>and my memory of it aint the greatest, but doesnt she also have a framed photo of kris?anyways, susie may have trouble picking up on things but even she's not dumb enough to be blind to that.
>>739937529>weird as fuck reputation on /vg/Everyone generally liked her. They have that one threadshitter that tries to force drama around any of the popular artfags but their attempts at samefagging are so pathetic and transparent they finally stopped last time I checked.
>>739922000>cuntgadero
>>739928216>he thinks red dot is bloodI am again reminded that these threads are 99% made up of knuckle dragging retards that need assistance with tying their shoelaces.
>>739937879My Hero Cloudo Strifu would KILL him for hating on anime.
>>739938726a majority of these threads are just grooming victims that got their brain scrambled by troonies before they had a chancedon't expect a coherent thought
Every day I think about the fact that we are gonna have waited 12 to 13 years for an ending that sucks shit lol
>>739939371how do you knoware you a time traveler?
>>739939371I am so ready for heccin wholesome lesbian love to be the true route ending that saves the day!!!!! POGGERS!!!!!
>>739938726Anon-san, in the code the rose scene is called blood_drip, you can even see the stab soundStill, this is the code so it shouldn't be taken 100% canon, still there is a chance it's just blood
>>739939371The Normal Route ending will be good but the Weird Route ending will be KINO.
>>739925209depends entirely on if s*selle happens or not
>>739939748her breasts are NOT that big
>>739939441I'm so ready sister for Toby to tell me how chuddy i am for doing the wr!!Man that would suck dick lmao
>>739925209These """tournaments""" are always a competition of which mentally ill shitposter has more bots at his disposal, if not rigged by the organizers themselves.
>>739939571not him but i'd like to bring up the "thank you" with the red dot from the first church world when you think about noelle.even assuming that scene was from the second you thought about noelle and wasnt something like a premonition for the festival, a small wound like that wouldnt bleed for more than an hour even with the thorn still stuck in her, and thats closer to the end of the first church world, definitely past dark.plus there's a whole "cross contamination" thing where susie asks what kris and noelle were talking about and you get noelle's answers. (nothing since she didnt hear the question) which implies some far more significant fuckery is going on.
>>739923346you know i'm starting to understand why noellefags use to get compared with charafags
>>739938185Yeah, that's what im saying. The scene is written in a way where it is very vague and unclear on which ship is being favoredIs it favoring Suselle because its Susie making sure Noelle is free and she can invite her onto Ferris wheel?Is it favoring Krusie, becuase she's asking the same to make sure she's not upset if Susie ask Kris on a ferris wheel date?Is it favoring Kriselle because Susie just exposes that Noelle is heavily coping about her past with Kris being old news and irrelevant?I think this scene is written to justify either Suselle, Krusie or Kriselle choices in chapter 5. Tony is cooking multiply scenario date.
>>739939834your right they're bigger
>>739940712Woah...he really is the american Kojimbo...
>>739940712how does toby literally look like a different person in every photo
>>739939748her breasts are NOT that small
>>739940103Mind you i'm not a coder so i could be talking out of my ass, but blood_drip also appears in the "thank you" too, it's the drip_ thing, in fact that code is only present in those two black screensStill again, for sure it will be deeper than just blood because of the Susie frozen screen scene
>>739940924Truth!
>>739940924what is her intention here?
>>739939834Give her a few children and you'll see
>>739940712Look at this weaboo. You can tell he was bullied by girls in middle school and higschool. Average anon on 4chan could probably break his arm without effort.
>>739923346>>739940462Can you even be called a Charafag, you barely post them and are embarrassed of being one. Couldn't be humanbros, that's for sure
>>739941065Having Kris use it like a cockring
>>739941195He need to try doggy style if she leg locks on a missionary
>>739941223he already broke his wrists tho
>>739939748>>739937421should I jerk off to these sluts
>>739921846No thank you, yellowtard. Stay in your general.
>>739939748wtf where's lancer
>>739941328he is so short and lanky and feels like the wind could knock him off. Do you think he escaped to Japan so that average dude woudn't rape him on the street?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lW9D5MZFBI&t=261s
>>739941724I WILL have my Doe wife.
Canon Kris boob size at the end of the thread.
>>739941367yes
>>739941981I've always found her pretty hot but I've never jerked off to her before
>>739941860This but for the other two humans.
>>739929961Thank you doctor.
>>739930764Literally no Charafag here as ever wanted Chara literally in Deltarune, stuff like Chara being FRIEND is clearly a joke.
>>739942019This but for the justice soul.
>>739931963>Chara is a (tom)boy
>>739932369Are people so mindbroken over Chara they genuinely think that theory is serious?
>>739942003hope i can change that
>>739932761Yes, both of them are autistic, it's always the same story.
>>739942197i was just using as an example of retarded theories that server no benefit to the game.
>>739935516She was a dude at first before Toby changed her gender last second
>>739942202your plan is working anon
>>739942232I mean, yes, but that's because it's a clear joke. Joke theories usually ARE retarded by nature, it's usually just an excuse to post catgirl humans.
>>739942397yeah but that guy actually wanted chara in deltarune so i just had to grab something nonsensical to prove a point.
>>739942253cool
>>739942471she's making me feel pretty good anon
>>739942446I see. I don't actually want Chara or Frisk in Deltarune myself honestly. Toby would probably ruin their adult design unlike fanon.
>>739942446I'm actually going to be really pissed off if Deltarune goes full Undertale wank with 'member berries. It's always a terrible omen of hackery
>>739932369You can throw shade at all theories that way, people make the most bizarre connections and the evidence is what it is. Whatever ends up happening is up to Toby to justify, I can't tell you the narrative benefit of x happening because I'm not him and I don't have the full picture like he does
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>>739941724Fucking saved.
>>739942660sexy lips
>>739942640Kinda already is. The only new characters are the Holidays, some classmates and darkners, even then some are just rehashes of ut characters. Toby does seem keen to shed more light on underutilized characters like gerson and Asgore which I don't particular mind but I would have preferred if old characters remained less relevant. To have the plot focus on the main four instead this town wide conspiracy
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>>739942136I do
>>739942924You say that, but most Undertale characters so far have been treated as plot devices at most (Toriel being the damsel in Ch3, Undyne as the sacrificial heifer to make The Knight more threatening, Mettaton not mattering at all). I can live with a bit more Asgore and Gerson and crap, but I don't want the plot to bend backwards to justify the more esoteric characters SOMEHOW making an appearance when they have no plausible way of doing so
how come we haven't seen a single human besides kris in deltarune? is this like a racist town or something
>>739943104We're all the same person so if I say so, you say so.
What if FRIEND is Kris.
>>739943429damn... undyne looks like THAT?
>>739943231My view on deltarune is that literally anything could happen. Toby is not bound by a rigid set of rules, it's all loosey goosey. You can't rely purely on the info we have now to predict what might happen because everything is so vague, Toby is never going to give you enough info to even remotely get close to piecing together the plot
>>739941724Where's Veth?
>>739943530i mean she's built like a fishstick and is one of the only characters with visible boobs so kinda
