Would life in the cyberpunk 2077 timeline really be "dystopian hellscape" bad? Sure there's not enough trash collection and a lot of homelessness, but people seem to be largely doing OK?
>>739939710So getting a microchip implanted in your head, eating fucking plastic, living in a literal dumpster without sunlight is "largely okay" to you?
Have fun with ur 25h workday
>>739939710>but people seem to be largely doing OK?Didn't play the game award.
>>739939784Doesn't sound that different from current day city life.The only difference is that the computer is in our pockets instead of implanted on our heads
>>739939972Good lord, imagine planned obsolesce with cyberware.
>>739939960Most people are just walking around, eating food on benches and looking at their phones. Same as today except they also have cool augments that let them do superhuman things.
>Big 5 Employers in Night City – 2077>Night Corp snuck into our Big 5 after a recent announcement to reduce the mandatory workweek to just 80 hours!
hard to say because you don't see much of other cities or outside the cities.
>>739940119Only a select few have chrome
spend all day shitposting on /trid/
>>739940119>>739939710The entire setting of cyberpunk is basically>post war between huge companies that became too powerful even for governments>most of the natural world is fucked>Internet became useless due to rampant AI and bots, governments make new net for Orwellian control, super hacker nukes it, since there was almost no physical media, or physical back up of anything a shit ton of knowledge and tech got lost, this also cause the current Corpo-Anarchy freedom you see in the game>and yet people are mostly born with a "contract" with a company, not a nationality>Humanity as a whole is not exactly in decline, but there's no sense of "going foward" for anyone, its stale>its hinted that space exploration might fix humanity's desire to go foward as long and its a "western" free for all and not corp ownedalso>>739940304thisIts kind of like Fallout where we only know what's going on in the US really
>>739939710This is actually why I hated that lesbian bitch so much>Oh no these dolls are being exploited>Look I have a shitty plan to help>Everyone tells me my plan is retarded>Oh no, my plan got lots of people killed!>This must be the city's fault>I will run away from it and never learn my lessonThe city isn't some magical circle of hell, it's just a place where there are more shitty people on average. There's nothing special about it.
>>739939926>city wagecuck
>>739940619Have fun living in the desert in bumfuck nowhere like an african nomadAnd no, toilet paper does not count as essential amenities
>>739940662I thought Death Stranding was a satire on americans, turns out it was a documentary
>>739939710LA is already like that
>>739940780Manhattan was a modern punk dystopia when I visited. Central park was swarming with rats and there was drugged up homeless black people everywhere.
>>739940780Night City is way more walkable
>>739939710It's like real life, but exaggerated.Everything bad is 10 times worse and your current standard of living is probably upper class by their standards no matter what.The only "good" parts of their society are still infested with various flavors of super AIDs or are twisted into being more shit.>>739940036You don't have to imagine it, this already exists.
>>739941189If you account for things like being able to see the sky, breath clean air, feel safe at all times, eat high quality food and have quiet. I felt like even the richest people in new york are actually poor. Why poor people remain in new york baffles me.
idk man i visited NOLA as a europoor and it was basically like all the bad parts of cyberpunk but without the tech.
>>739941084You should come back and visit again, it's not the 70s any more (although the new mayor is trying to turn back the dial on that.)
>>739940780Atleast you can defend yourself legally in night city if a rocket scientist tries to kill you on public transpo
>>739941473I was there 2 years ago. Its a fucking dump.
>>739940425In the game every fucking single character has artificial eyes. Every single one.
>>739941354>Why poor people remain in new york baffles me.Mostly because their families have been living there for generations and it didn't start becoming unaffordable until the hispter gentrifiers started invading and turning it into the 'playground for the rich'.As I mentioned a post or two back, in the 70s it was full of rats and homeless druggies, but it was affordable. Now it's filled with with slumming nepobabies and old affordable apartment buildings are constantly being torn down to build them luxury housing.
>>739941646Manhattan is still full of rats and druggies. that was my experience of it.
>>739941608Where does it state that? You start off with normal organic eyes for one.
>>739941737How very odd. Did you spend the entire visit in Sugar Hill or Fort George or something? Or were you visiting from deepest suburbia so even a half dozen rats and a single bum seem like a lot?
>>739939972>Doesn't sound that different from current day city life.Are you retarded? How do you expect to look at 5 seconds of a person's life and extrapolate their lifestyle from it?Just from datachips we know:>Over 30% of the population is unemployed>The few people with jobs work 80+ hour weeks only possible with corporate-issued stimulants, and employee contracts let your employer freely modify your body>The only affordable diet is ground-up worms and corn syrup>Every district is controlled by gangs in a state of constant warfare, leaving the city with a higher murder per capita rate than any place in real life earth>Cops hire vigilantes through an app to solve crimes, and they have full legal immunity while doing so (kinda based)Also keep in mind that the main character is a 0.001%er by virtue of being a one-man army and the best you can get is a slightly more spacious than normal apartment that's nevertheless infested with roaches with trash piled around the door
>>739939710just dont live in night city and you will be fine.
>>739939710There was a monk which gets kidnapped by Maelstroms, they forcefully force cybernetics on him for the lulz. They were discussing replacing his dick with a mechanical one while you are saving himDunno man, I prefer my own timeline
>>739941189>You don't have to imagine it, this already exists.Not really planned if you're thinking of the same thing I'm thinking of, more of the natural side effect of the first generation of a specific technology.
>>739939710Most of the flora and fauna on the planet are extinct, people only eat ultra processed corpochow, there are criminal gangs all over, no ethnic nations left, powerful supranational orgs control the internet.Yeah it would probably be really shitty.
Just get a corpo job and you are living the life, full immersion VR means that video-games are insane.
The game is shit, that should tell you just about how shit living in its world would be.
>>739940036Is there any proof that planned obsolescence is actually a thing?
>>739942620humans like to complain
>>739942553But you'll have no time for vidya working 24/7
>>739939710There's a mission where a bunch of corrupt cops hire you to silence their colleague and when you confront her she tells you a few hundred rapes and murders happened in one district just this month so the crime is really bad there.
>>739942884Umm, it's only 18/7, sweetyI get a recreational 30 minutes every week! :^)
>>739942714If it wasn't companies would have fought against it when yuroland told them to stop it.
>>739941906>chuds look at this list and say "SIGN ME UP!">then they see a trans bumper sticker and change their mind
>>739942714The most blatant example is the OG lightbulb.
>>739942714Just buy a controller and see for yourself.
>>739943125But again did Europe even provide proof that it's real? >>739943217Is that planned obsolescence or just physics? Does wear and tear that comes with usage break lamps sooner or later
>>739943323>But again did Europe even provide proof that it's real?Huh... yes? It's why they won against corporations. Duh.
>>739943323>Is that planned obsolescence or just physics?It's planned obsolescence through physics. Make the filament thin enough and you can guarantee it will burn out after a certain amount of time. They could have built them to last much longer, or even to be serviceable.
>>739943434But would you be willing to pay the much higher price that comes with stuff lasting longer?
>>739942714If your cell phone doesn't break in 5 years, it stops receiving updates. If that doesn't brick it, when the network moves on to 4G or 5G or the newest standard, your old phone won't be able to access it.
>>739943154>chuds look at this list and say "SIGN ME UP!"the game is called cyberPUNK the fuck are you talking about chuds lol
>>739942714Not in the way midwits believe it is, the market responds to consumer preferences and most people would rather pay less for a product than pay an exorbitant amount of something that outlasts its utility or becomes obsolete due to technological advances and you'll want to replace it anyway.
>>739943484It wouldn't cost much to make them more durable. Most people would buy a bulb that costs 1.5-2 times more and lasts ten times longer.
>>739943484People buy LED and CFL bulbs for a reason. If the government hadn't demanded filaments get phased out, they'd have gradually faded away anyway.
>>739943504Chuds are punks. Controlled opposition seemingly going against the norm.
>>739943489>when the network moves on to 4G or 5G or the newest standard, your old phone won't be able to access it.But that's not really planned obsolescence is it? That's just your phone not being equipped to handle new tech, and you can't make a product ready for technology which you don't know exist. >>739943561>>739943581Lets use another example then, cast iron and carbon steel pans are known to last a lifetime. Several lifetimes in fact, a 300 year old cast iron pan is just as good now as it was then. But do you have these pans in your kitchen or do you have cheap non-stick pans
>>739943561Think about this, if someone could build a bulb that lasts forever and costs just 2 or even 4 times more, you could outcompete every other manufacturer out there, even if you only sell 1 single bulb to each person on Earth (because they won't need new ones), you are still going to be the most wealthy man in existence.So pray tell me, why hasn't anyone do that already?
>>739943581I post this and the LED bulb in my bathroom starts making funny crackling noises like it's an old fashioned incandescent bulb.
>>739939710Yes and no.In Night City for example there's enough personal freedom that organised criminals can murder, rob and so on and still use the same banking system everyone else uses, they can still use their phones and they can text and phone about crimes in detail.Meanwhile in real life America is trying to get dead switches in every new car (MaxTac does this on a cooldown in Night City), every 2027 onwards American car will have inward facing cameras that can be accessed by the police, you can be debanked for literally no reason through a collaborative effort, everything has a backdoor in them, every government is trying to pass laws that will give them the ability to mass survey everything you put online and so on.In that aspect, Night City is actually far better than the total control the government has over ordinary citizens currently and plans for.However the gang warfare, murder, weather, corporation control/colonisation, food and so on is what makes it a hellhole.
>>739943581led bulps are kinda crappy. old non led ones i've not needed to change in like 15 years. led ones just die every 1-2 years. i guess technically there's like 2 year warrantee but who keeps receipts around that long for 2 dollar led bulps lol
>>739943504Going to church and having kids is the most transgressive thing to do right now.
>>739943693True, I guess you could call that unplanned obsolesce. But no effort is made to accommodate old phones like past generational jumps did. The phone companies pushing out new OS updates that purposely don't work with older phones is far more egregious. Windows and Mac do the same thing with new OS versions. Win 11 is a straight downgrade from Win 10, and few people wanted to change, so change was forced, and old computers become increasingly difficult and risky to use.
>>739943693Sorry, forgot to reply to the second half of your post. I have one cast iron pan for certain types of cooking, the rest are cheaper pans which are easier to use and still last decades.
>>739943778>every 2027 onwards American car will have inward facing cameras that can be accessed by the policeWat? Details plz, the car is one of the few third spaces you can have privacy in. No way people aren't going to just tape over that camera if this is true. The cops don't need to see me picking my nose.
biggest flop. i thought it would replace modded skyrim as the premier sex simulator sandbox with full customization but it didnt.
>>739943807How many visit to the church you do in the game, again?
>>739943925Section 24220 of the 2021 Infrastructure Investment and JobsThe claim is it's to tackle drunk driving by having a camera monitoring you 24/7 to detect if you're drunk or not to determine if a kill switch should let you drive or not.How likely it is to actually be implemented by 2027 is up in the air at the moment but that was the goal date for getting it done. Regardless, the intention for this level of surveillance is already signed and being pursued.It's not coincidence that so many datacentres are being built, having them conduct mass surveillance will be easy.
>>739943826It certainly would be nice for them to continue supporting products when the new product is out, but it's also something that can't go on forever. >>739943863I use nothing but cast iron, carbon steal and stainless steal. They will last forever with the correct usage and I'm not contributing to the PFAS problem
>>739943826>no effort is made to accommodate old phones like past generational jumps didI don't have the technical knowledge to make an educated comment on this, we can either assume it's malicious or there are really technical reasons that make it prohibitively expensive to maintain that kind of compatibility, there's no reason to assume every generational jump is the same.
>>739944113>The claim is it's to tackle drunk driving by having a camera monitoring you 24/7 to detect if you're drunk or not to determine if a kill switch should let you drive or not.They dont even need a camera for that, just install a breath analyser. Those are already mandatory in buses and trucks in Europe
>>739944113A government controlled remote killswitch for your vehicle? People would never accept that.
>>739942714Mobile phones and their glued batteries
>>739944341That's why governments use the Rhodesia solution
>>739944297Probably pushed by tech companies with money to burn to make it so that they can be paid to constantly process the data. The same way tech companies keep trying to turn cars into what are basically trains but more costly and less effective.You don't need a camera for it but cameras are the solution they signed in.>>739944341It's already been pased, it's been signed for 5 years. I'm not American so maybe I've missed it but what politician is openly against it? As far as I know literally no one talks about it.It's going to happen eventually, they'll force insurance to include the cameras. If they really want to they'll force insurance companies to provide cameras for old cars to be monitored as well.
>>739944341already exists in china.
>>739944205>>739944274>It certainly would be nice for them to continue supporting products when the new product is out, but it's also something that can't go on forever.Stop Killing Games disagrees
>>739944341I thought so as well before I saw them sloppily stage a global pandemic and get away with it, they even admitted it was planned in the Epstein files and nobody gave a fuck.
>>739944416>the Rhodesia solutionUse worldwide external pressure to force the country to dissolve, and allow it to be taken over by a bloodthirsty 'revolutionary' dictator for life?
>>739943732Are you just being disingenuous or something or are you genuinely this fucking retarded?Led bulbs exist, they are better than old filament bulbs.
>>739944667And they are allowed to do it, I don't have to agree with them and they don't have to agree with me. >>739944725https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGJH_-S_MGs
Nomads seem to be the only people genuinely enjoying themselves in the game.
>>739943732Why haven't you? You could outcompete every other manufacturer out there, even if you only sell 1 single bulb to each person on Earth (because they won't need new ones) and you would still be wealthy.
>>739944773So malicious planned obsolescence is not practiced in the industry as the norm after all.
>>739944589A single provision tucked inside a thousand+ page bill? Most of Congress probably didn't even realize it's implications.>As far as I know literally no one talks about it.I pay attention to politics (admittedly mostly local) and this is the first I've heard of it.> what politician is openly against it?https://www.billtrack50.com/billdetail/1826093Depressing that it only has 35 co-sponders. Astounding that all of them are Republicans. >It's going to happen eventually, they'll force insurance to include the cameras. I would have more expected insurance companies start to mandate them; my friend already got new car insurance that wants to install some sort of driving monitor on his car in exchange for more reasonable rates.>>739944660Yeah, but that's a commie authoritarian hellhole, the US is supposed to be better than that.>>739944705>they even admitted it was planned in the Epstein files and nobody gave a fuck.Where? Link. Pretty much everything 'proven' in the Esptein files is him rather obviously trolling his friends.
>>739944805>Yes MinisterNice to see a man of culture on here.But that must be a reference to something that actually happened - any knowledgeable Brits want to fill us in?
>>739944705>>739945087Must have been the same part of the files that said Michael Jackson was actually saving children from Epstein's trafficking network
>>739939710The natural world is completely and utterly fucked>climate change flooding all coastal areas, many we know are now underwater>irreparable desertification of huge swathes of land>mass species extinction >toxic waste everywhere, groundwater is poison without treatment >oceanic life collapse, so bad the fishing industry basically doesn't exist outside of farms>self-replicating autonomous and uncontrollable naval mines made by arasaka are slowly covering the ocean, possible gray goo scenario but we don't know all the details since they're covering it up>new plague every couple of years>environmental regulations might as well not existWhy do you think the big corps like Arasaka are building space stations and looking for ways to upload their consciousness? It isn't for fun or luxury, they know it will be necessary sooner than most believe. Ironically, the corps are actually planning for the future, it's just that it's only their future, while they destroy any possibility of the earth remaining habitable for humans just so they can watch their line go up.I could also go on to list how you basically have no rights, the cops are owned by corps, the law is written by corps and your only options for work are corps but I see that as secondary. You have some groups like the nomads, but look where they are: right next to a giant city. They're not just there to steal because it's fun or easy, they don't have a choice. There is no longer a woods for them to go inna. Even when you exist outside of the system, you are still ultimately dependent on it because they have totally destroyed any alternative.
>>739945291Link plz, would love to see that one too.
>>739945292>your only options for work are corps but I see that as secondaryThere seems to be plenty of small businesses in 2077, like restaurants, ripperdocs, cab companies, heck even being a merc.
>>739945290Check the comment section on the video, but it could also just be a reference to how government generally operate
>>739945345I don't have a link, I haven't read the files. I have however seen that narrative being spread around the internet
>>739944935>So malicious planned obsolescence is not practicedWe've been over this already, yes it is.
>>739945087>the US is supposed to be better than that.The US was only slightly better at hiding the control over its population. You think you can use your PC or phone with privacy?
>>739945087>>739945291It's from one of the parts mentioning Bill Gates and eugenics.
>>739944705>stage a global pandemicwhen are the vaxxed supposed to die again?
>>739945771>Pandemic has happened throughout in history >Rich people are talking about how to prepare for them especially now that the world is more connected than ever >This must mean that they planned for it And this is truly offtopic but it's funny how you people only say this in regards to corona and not something like ebola.
>>739945771>"We should take precautions because it's been almost a century since the last pandemic and another one is bound to happen sooner or later.">THIS PROVES EPSTEIN PLANNED COVID!!1!This isn't isn't even Epstein trolling, he outright doesn't say or imply what you claimed.
>>739945771link to that email?
>>739946024
>>739946063https://jmail.world/thread/vol00009-efta00654215-pdf?view=inbox
>>739946065I guess there's no argument possible, anyone who dies is because of the vaxx, anyone who doesn't is just an exception that proves the rule.
>>739939710>timeline really be "dystopian hellscape" bad? really faggot?>16 + hours day shift 6 days per week, sometimes 7 days per week>microchip in your head that could get hacked and give you the worst hallucinations know to man and make you into a psycho, also you need to constant upgrade/repair otherwise it will "break" and fuck up your brain>Ecosystem collapse Worldwide, flooding, toxic /radiation storms duo to nukes being used, animals are extinct, extreme storms, the land itself is infertile so have fun growing anything, toxic air and water so enjoy megacancer>there is no real food for 95 or more percent of the population, they eat insects, chemicals and artificial food full of chemicals>Night city itself has more crime and murders than Brazil, Night city has only like 7 mil people while Brazil has 200 mil>endless corruption with no end in sight, Megacorporation own anything and can do anything(a cop was talking about how a guy from a Megacorp was a serial killer but they were not allowed to kill him/arrest him because it was a member of the board)>some Corporations can do mind control (NightCorp)>real AI who will rape everyone after the Blackwall is destroyed>endless ads, no owning stuff you only rent themCyberpunk 2077 has only the tech (if you have money) and look pretty sometimes, but overall is Hell itself, but you don't to worry too much because that future will be here soon
>>739946030>>739946049Be honest, how many boosters did you take?
Cyberpunk is literally our world but 10x worse, the only cool thing about it is the aesthetics and cyberware (and even having that gives you a chance of going insane). Come to think of it social media addiction can give you irl cyberpsychosis
>>7399471982 or 3, it was mandatory for healthcare workers
>>739939710You dont see all the rape and sex trafficing ingame
>>739939710You're playing as a merc with legit superpowers, now imagine what life would be like for an average normie
>>739947198None, just the plain vax. I ain't getting it yearly, just like I don't get the flu vaccine, it just doesn't work for me personally.
How many weeks until vaxx kills everyone?
>>739947151>>some Corporations can do mind control (NightCorp)Aren't they a pretty tiny corp? Can they mind control the board of Arasaka and Miltech to give them favorable contracts?
>>739942683i have no idea how zoomers waste so much time on that horrible game
>>739943217>>739943323Lightbulbs have a limit on how long they can keep up vs how much light they give. The tungsten filament literally boils off inside the lamp with use. The lightbulb cartel (an actual thing) fixed how long lightbulbs should last to prevent competitors from undercutting with better lamp tech (under the guise that it was to keep expected quality).The "100 year lightbulb" barely gives off any light.Now, there's no reason they don't make a long lasting LED lamp except greediness. They run the diodes too hot for less upfront cost. There's a special Arab LED that really never needs to be replaced and they run a lot more diodes.
>>739947310>Cyberpsychosis is almost exclusively caused by having enough local processing power to run an AI chatbot waifu that gaslights you into doing stupid shit
>>739947607They probably could try, but it seems like an extremely bad idea in practice, imagine what will happen if Arasaka and Militech find out
>>739944773>they are betterIt's ok, the human eye can only see 30fps
>>739946609>exception that proves the rulethat's not what survivorship bias is though
>>739943484Planned obsolescence isn't about higher costs of production. it is about the guarantee of continuous demand. No matter how expensive or cheap something is, if they never need to buy from you again for a lifetime then you can only sell it once.Therefore, make something that breaks and needs maintenance or replacements.
>people seem to be doing okCorporations are slowly turning them into machines. They will not be people for long and few seem to care. Therein lies the horror.
