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Does this get really hard once you get the lightsaber or do I just suck?
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>>739948132
g_saberrealisticcombat 1
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>>739948132
>Does this get really hard once you get the lightsaber or do I just suck?
the difficulty does feel like it suddenly spikes once you reach nar shaddaa, yes. but it's easy to adapt once you understand you're not expected to rely only on your lightsaber. other levels also don't have snipers as annoying as the ones in this
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>>739948296
I did picrel, is that good?

>>739948590
Yeh, it's snipers but the bomb spammers as well. I wish the push had a bigger area to something to send the bombs back.
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>>739948132
Nar shaddaa is specifically designed to punish players being over-reliant on the lightsaber, that's why there's snipers everywhere in the open and assholes with thermal detonators in every stairwell. It eases off after that.
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>>739948132
It gets a bit harder but not that much. The problem forgetting you can still use guns.
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>>739948132
Nar Shadda almost filtered me. Slow down time, peak and shoot and save often. Honestly the game never expects you to only use the lightsaber.
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>>739948132
The snipers on Nar Shaddaa are ruthless but other than that the game isn't hard.
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the great nar shaddaa filter
just snipe the snipers and you should be good
that level is nuts with its thermal detonator and sniper npcs
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>>739948296
Theres more commands than just this, you gotta also turn dismemberment on
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play the VR version or die bitch fucking die
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>>739948132
Great game, terrible levels.
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>>739948132
Making a level with tons of snipers being the first one you play after acquiring force powers and lightsaber was a choice indeed.
ye ye i know why they did that, still stings
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>>739948132
yes Nar Shaddaa is a difficulty spike with those cocksucker Rodian snipers
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>>739948132
This game is absurdly complex for a kid's star wars game
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Nar Shaddaa is just an annoying level
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>2026
>shitters still don't know you can dodge disrupter shots
They don't make filters like they used to.
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>every run of the mill dark jedi will dodge your disruptor shots perfectly
>you can't
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Dark Forces 2 was better.
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>>739957120
I swear you could, but I often conflate my memories of JO with JA
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>>739948132
You're supposed to push bombers to give yourself an opening to shoot back, and use speed to beat the snipers to the draw
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>>739948132

I don't remember this game being difficult, maybe lightsaber duels could be cheap sometimes.
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>>739957492
Im on the opposite side of this spectrum. I cant think of a single level that isnt outright sadistic.
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>>739957072
Is it holding Interact while you have your lightsaber in hand?
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>>739957790
Yes. Works in multiplayer too.
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>>739957635

>those dudes spamming thermal detonators
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>>739957180
based
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>>739957072
I can't remember the power in Outcast but in Academy force sense allows automatic dodging at level 3. Wasn't there one in Outcast?
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>>739957180
I liked the first Dark Forces but didn't like the second one.
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>>739957180
okay grandpa
time for your medication
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>>739949312
>>739957491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojo59x1rNeo
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>>739948132
The worst thing for me about Nar Shadaa is not the sudden difficulty spikes but not knowing where you're supposed to go a lot of the times.
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>>739948132
It gets a lot easier once you get a lightsaber and force powers, the gunplay is fucking dogshit
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>>739949816
Oh yeah, I forgot that the bandaid for any bad game design in PC games is savescumming.
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>>739948752
I recommend using the 'Expanded Menu' mod (it's in the same wiki you're on) to basically enable a bunch of settings such as dismemberment, and a way lot more
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Mysteries of the Sith>>>>>Jedi Outcast
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>>739959868
Does it have better control mappings? I had to make a Hotkey script to map Shift+[1-9] to force powers and Ctrl+[1-9] to inventory.
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>>739960209
Tried it, but I don't think it does something that specific.
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>>739961067
MOHGAN KATAAN
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>>739948132
You don't suck, the lightsaber combat is just nonsensical. Some of the bosses can one shot you for no reason
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>>739961067
Kyle? Kyle Katarn? You're the legendary hero who destroyed Jerec at the valley of the jedi? You look like nothing more than a bantha herder.
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>>739958298
I think Sense allows auto-dodge at 3 in Outcast, but only in multiplayer, but you can dodge by holding the use key with your saber out. Think it also works in Academy, but I'm not sure.
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Last I tried playing Outcast I decided I would crank the difficulty and ended up continuously backtracking for health rather than just taking the nearest - so I wouldn't end up having to backtrack a shitton if I ended up running low after having been taking all the nearest for a while. That combined with the horrible unnatural awkwardness of blaster shots having just the wrong travel time to fuck with aiming intuition, neither hitscan nor leading them as much as leading normally entails, sapped my interest before long. Gonna have to play it like an arcade shooter on normal difficulty when I come back around to it.
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>>739961067
roody jewliani lookin ass
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You ever feel like your master is holding you back? Haha
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>>739949312
I went through my last playthrough using a lot more guns than normal, including in most of the Reborn/Shadow Trooper fights; I almost never used the saber. Almost all of them got grenaded to death.

>>739960135
I liked the Force power system in MOTS. It didn't restrict you by alignment like JK did and it offered you a better collection of powers than JO. JA was cool for its expanded saber mechanics.

>>739962847
I beat it on Jedi Knight and was satisfied, Jedi Master difficulty was just there for you to torment yourself.
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>>739948132
overrated combat
flailing around trying to do anything more than just spamming looks stupid as fuck
bf2 (2017) did dueling better
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>>739962847
>ended up continuously backtracking for health rather than just taking the nearest - so I wouldn't end up having to backtrack a shitton if I ended up running low after having been taking all the nearest for a while.
Bacta? Did people forget about the inventory system? The early game isn't that bad in Jedi Master difficulty anyhow, just Nar shaddaa and the eventual kata of the reborn using light style just one shotting you
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>>739963732
probably actually meant shield from charging stations
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>>739963580
>bf2 (2017) did dueling better
You mean pressing block and attack at the same time to get a janky ass animation of your character rubberbanding, getting staggered as if you'd received damage and dealing about 100 hit points to the enemy jedi under the farce of "skilled parrying" all while the both of you are pressing the dodge button and trying to get behind the back of the other? lol
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>>739957317
No, you can, it's a chance of activating Speed when you have high force points. It's just your Speed level is shit tier on Nar Shaddaa
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>>739957120
LOL I'd seen people auto-dodge disruptor shots in multiplayer but never learned how to do it myself before. I got really good at Force pushing grenades and rockets back though.
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>>739960209
you should change all the force powers to be around your movement keys
hitting 9 to use force push or whatever is retarded
push, pull, grip -- these should all be instantly accessible
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>>739965489
I generally used F1-F8 for Force powers. F1-F4 were for the most commonly used powers and F5-F8 were for the less common. I have big hands so it worked for me.
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>>739965489
Q for previous force power E for next force power, R for interaction and F to use current force power was my setup
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Best Force power loadouts? For me it's:

>Jump 3 levels
>Speed 2 levels
>Push/Pull 1 level
>Sense 1 level

>Saber Attack 3
>Saber Defense 3
>Saber Throw 3

Then I'd just get either Protect 3 if I was light side or Lightning 3 for the dark side. I went hard into saber fighting.
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>>739965705
I also did
Q/E for weapons
Shift +Q/E for force powers
Ctrl + Q/E for inventory
But manually selecting each time is a pain so you need hotkeys.
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>>739966364
I just realized the newer players probably don't know that I'm talking about the multiplayer, since in JO the Force progression system in single-player is completely different from multiplayer.
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>>739967084
Can you still play multiplayer?
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>>739967720
I dont think any servers are being hosted for JO, JA has some but most people moved to movie battles.
Also if i remember correctly there is some fuckery between pirated and legit copies in JO where people cant connect.
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>>739967920
That's sad, JO had some cool things that they removed in JA. Of course JA also has dual sabers/saberstaff and Siege mode.
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>>739967920
This is crazy. Is this really all in the Quake 3 engine?
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>>739968186
Yeah, it's fucking nuts how much they were able to do with such primitive technology, and modders took it even further. Compare that to today's unoptimized slop.
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>>739951176
>never trust a guy with bad grammar
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>>739968186
You will be surprised what people are capable of in this engine. Its like a baby version of source. The maps people made in JO were insane, from visual to the gameplay and it only evolved.
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>>739951176
They have that same map in multiplayer too. That map was what taught me to not run around everywhere with my saber on. All it does is alert people to your position so they can snipe you.
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>>739948590
>>739949129
it's very easy to get your lightsaber, turn on all the g_saber stuff, dismember guys and feel really cool, but honestly the game ends up being less fun when you play it that way imo
it's a lot more fun as a shooter + force powers, and you whip out your lightsaber against other saber-wielders
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>>739968504
JA had the Jedi Council building map and the Matrix Reloaded map, those were fucking incredible.
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>>739968583
That's how I played the first Jedi Knight.
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>>739968583
Lel, half the time I just shot grenades/the flechette shotgun at saber users. The DEMP 2 was pretty good against them too, just not an instakill like a well-placed grenade was.
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>>739961146
LEAVING SO SOON?
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>>739968659
JO had Matrix Reloaded too
whats incredible in most of them is that you could spend hours just exploring them, those guys put secret rooms and passageways everywhere
going through the map and finding an extremely secret room just to meet some 4-5 guys dueling there was peak kino no other game will ever replicate
and all of that, with custom music, custom textures without a single fps drop or crash
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>>739968739
It works on the early reborns, I think shadowtroopers will input read push it. In Academy they all do it
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>>739957180
I liked the entire Dark Forces series
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>>739968876
What's the play order?
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>>739969019
Other than KOTOR1->KOTOR2 there isn't one. All jedi knights work on their own and each is different from the other, maybe except the MSDOS ones lol.
Never played and never will play EA ones. Rollslop for toddlers.
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>>739968932
I got rid of a good chunk of the Reborn on the Cairn Installation/Doomgiver with grenades. There's a guy at the start of Cairn Reactor who will insta-die if you shoot at him with the flechette gun's primary and secondary modes simultaneously because he has nowhere to dodge.

And I killed quite a few cultists in Academy with guns too. It's not always doable, but in a lot of places it's possible to get the right position to sneak up on them and do it. Really the main thing in Academy that you can't use is the rockets, the cultists all excel at pushing them back. But heavy repeater/flechette gun secondary fire both work fine.
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>>739969204
>Other than KOTOR1->KOTOR2 there isn't one. All jedi knights work on their own and each is different from the other, maybe except the MSDOS ones lol.
I thought the Jedi Knights fed into each other because of Kyle. Huh. Alright then, thanks man. Had these in my library forever, figure I should finally play them.
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>>739969019
Just play each game in the same subseries sequentially, but other than that you can play them all in any order.
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>>739957492
The saber duels aren't the issue in the difficulty even if they can get tricky sometimes.
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>>739959130
I wish more Jedi would lean into blaster and light saber combat together
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>>739969396
Yeah it's basically like FF, none of the games have any story connections to each other beyond the occasional reference.
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>>739969019
There's your play order. But look up source ports for the first three.
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>>739960209
I put push on E and pull on Q and never looked back because it's such a natural way to play. Other force powers I was fine with switching with Z and X and using with F
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>>739968583
>it's very easy to get your penis, turn on all the charm stuff, fuck women and feel really cool, but honestly the game ends up being less fun when you play it that way imo
>it's a lot more fun as a gay + butt slut, and you whip out your dick against other dick-wielders
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>>739961146
The dark side? I've been there. DO YOUR WORST.
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>>739969396
The only story connection im aware of is in JO, you really dont know why you dont have a saber, powers or why would you care about Jan but it doesnt really matter because if i figured it out when i was 8 years old so will you.
Jedi Academy isnt even about Kyle and the only thing you would need to play JO for is knowing who the fuck the villain is. And then the only thing you'll know is that she used to be hotter.
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>>739969396
>>739969460
Dark Forces 2 somewhat rewrites Kyle's character from 1 but Jedi Knight 2 leans heavily on Jedi Knight 1.
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>>739969460
>>739969467
I've played Academy as a kid, and that was great, but yeah not done many of the others. It's good to know they aren't too interlinked.
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>>739969678
That only applies if you didn't play Mysteries of the Sith. At the end of MOTS, Kyle turns to the dark side and has to be pulled out of it by Mara Jade, and after that he decides that he doesn't trust himself enough to use the Force and it's better for him to just be a merc, so he gives up his lightsaber and stops using the Force. JO retcons it to where he studied at the Jedi Academy before doing this, but the end result is basically the same.

>>739969679
Well of course it rewrites his character somewhat, he becomes a Jedi, so he has to change a little bit.
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>>739960209
Ok, I feel sorry for all the noob advice so here's my multiplayer setup from 15 years ago:
Force push on scroll forward.
Force pull on scroll back.
Grip on middle (or don't if it's too hard to not accidentally scroll).
speed/protect/absorb/dark-rage on a few buttons around like zxcv or something.
Leave F for lightning and grip.
Oh and always use red against other sword wielders and learn the moves (jump after a hit does a jump forward attack, backstab, kick, lunge)

Finally the game is a lot more fun with high dismemberment, one touch should just gib enemies.
For snipers you either have speed 3 to auto-dodge or counter-snipe.
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>>739969917
Look at this fucking rich guy owning a mouse with a scrollwheel. Nice flex, nobody asked.
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You did beat the entire Dark Forces series, not just JKO/JKA, right Anon?
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>>739969917
I don't always use the red style even in duels, the orange style is good enough in most cases. But usually what I do is switch between the red style and orange style frequently. The only thing you really need red style for is if you get into a saber lock, because red style is stronger there.

>>739970075
Beat all of them except the original DF.
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>>739970075
I remember being stuck in some sewers with brown fucks constantly flying and never found an exit.
Didnt even know it was a jedi knight game until recently
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>>739970075
Playing through 2 right now. It's kino.
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>>739970142
Shadows of the Empire had a sewer level too, you sure it wasn't that?
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>>739970232
DF1 second level is THE sewer map iirc.
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>>739970215
Protip: There's a special secret Force power for both the light and dark side that you can only get if you have a perfect score for both sides. If you only pick light side powers and never kill any innocents, you get Force Protect and if you pick only dark side powers and never do anything light side, you get Deadly Sight.
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Since there are players here, does anyone have a kill-counter for JO or JA?
It was a type of program that would hook into the game and every time you got a kill it would count it and auto-spam a message.
It was always edgelords who had them with shit like: "1 kill 1 soul goes to hell. Hell population: 6523" (where 6523 was your current kill count).
There was also a plugin for spamming what song you were listening to.
They used to be on fileplanet but I can't find any...
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>>739970324
just google jka killtracker
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>>739970324
Sithfags did that killtracker shit, but the song plugin didn't just let people know what song you were listening to. It actually let you manipulate your media player using the game's chat window, so you didn't have to window out to switch songs.
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>>739970324
You are asking for kill tracker.
https://www.gamefront.com/games/jedi-knight-iii/file/jam-s-jk2-jk3-kill-tracker
There are countless, everyone made different one back in the day
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>installed JA
>wanted to just fuck around with bots so hosted a lan game
>thought i could set bots to only use weapons
>see stormtroopers force jumping flips through the air swinging a lightsaber
>eventually figure out you basically cant disable force and lightsabers for bots
>this niggles my autism so bad i uninstall because i dont wanna replay the story for the thousandth time
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>>739957180
Truke
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>>739970494
You can set a no Force option, but it applies to all players in the game. You can't make it to where you have Force powers but nobody else does.
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>>739957180
I do like the idea of hiding force points behind secrets.
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>>739969396
the actual order is Dark Forces, Jedi Knight, MotS (it was the expansion), Jedi Outcast, Jedi Academy. The stories are all largely self-contained and stand alone but there IS an actual continuity to them.
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>>739970468
Hah, that's the one I remember, thx

>>739970435
>>739970445
Only used them for a bit, didn't know they could do that
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>>739970494
Learn basic modding so you can set spawns for whatever you want in whatever map you want as a sp map.
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My father always uninstalled kill tracker and yelled at me, telling me its a virus and told me to never install it so i just uninstalled it every time i stopped playing for the day.
In reality i believe he found it obnoxious, annoying and didnt want me to be a faggot online
he failed
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>>739970620
I think it was clever for its day, but at the risk of sounding Reddity, it was too "gamey" for a lot of people's taste. Still, I'm not complaining about it because the Force mechanics are great. But I think the best approach was what they sometimes used in KOTOR, where a story event would sometimes give you a new power. But in KOTOR it was just specific powers (Force Sight, Breath) that you got that way; a JK-style approach would give you an extra Force power point that could be spent on any power for completing a quest.
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>>739970585
yeah, i wanted to just fuck around as a jedi and btfo some storm troopers and mercenaries
>>739970662
i thought about it but i kinda swore that off for all games. yeah i could spend like an hour digging through files and tweaking stuff, but then i gotta test it, then im testing the game not playing it, i discover something i wanna edit or fix and then it’s 5 hours later and i barely actually played the game. just fucked around with modding. i just wanna click GO and actually GO. not handcraft and then troubleshoot the type of fun i want. that’s a game dev’s job.
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>>739970494
>open any mp map in sp
>devmapall / helpusobi 1
>notarget
>point at ground where you want to create a dude
>npc spawn (whateverfuck like stormtrooper, stofficer, reborn...)
there you go
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Sometimes even a small hope is enough to defeat the dark side
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>>739970136
Imagine skipping out on the ludokino that is Dark Forces 1.
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>>739970981
just don't npc spawn ragnos it makes mustard gas
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the 2.5d era kyle games are on par with redneck rampage
dont fall for the lies the gigauncs spew
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>>739971038
Kell dragon fights were kino, glad they brought them back in JK, but we never see them again after that. They did have the rancor in MOTS and the mutant rancor in JA though, but Kell dragons were underused.
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>>739971038
I like it. It's just that some levels are fucking SHIT, like the one where you first meet phase I dork trooper .
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>>739971041
for me it's etiher mutant_rancor or rocks
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>>739971117
I'm almost 40 and I can say that a zoomer coming to these games probably wouldn't enjoy MOTS or earlier. But JO/JA should still be playable for them, especially with mods to update the graphics.
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>>739971230
Hazard troopers in JA were underused too, they were basically flying dark troopers and only in like 2 levels.
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>>739971117
Only the first game is 2.5D, dumb zoomie. And it's one of the best games of that type. When comparing the full package, start to finish, it's a better game than both Doom 2 and Duke.
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>>739971117
Idk for me smth like KOTOR was banal, with super obvious plot twists and shitty combat.
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>>739971041
>>739971238
wdym they work perfectly :^)
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>>739971238
>rocks
what now?
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>>739971554
I remember having so much fun in the Jedi Outcast level where you first get the light saber. I used to spawn tons of Reborns everywhere and duel it out with them. full g_saberrealisticcombat_3 on of course.
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>>739971854
The best duels in multiplayer had g_saberrealisticcombat enabled on the server, so they were much more like the movie duels where getting hit was an insta-lose most of the time.
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>>739948132
It's not getting the lightsaber, it's just that nar shadda sucks massive ass compared to literally every other level. I don't know what the person who decided a map full of snipers was the best choice for the first map you play after getting a fucking MELEE weapon was on, but it must've been pretty fucking strong.
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Trivia time! You(and bots) can actually block saber swings. It just needs to hit your saber and that's it. That's why you sometimes see people crouching in MP with red style, to hopefully block a swing.
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>>739968690
DF2:JK was clearly meant to be played that way. It helps that most of the guns were sick as hell, with standouts like muh baby the racial detonator.
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>>739964021
ᵍᵉnᵉʳᵃˡ.
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I can fix him.
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>>739972249
It was to teach you that you can't always depend on the saber. There are plenty of other places in the game like Cloud City and Cairn where the lightsaber isn't the best choice.

>>739972375
DESU this should be built in real life, there's literally no reason it couldn't be done. It's just a grenade launcher powered by a rail system, it doesn't even need to make the projectile go supersonic.
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>normal mode is far too easy
>Hard is insanely difficult

Old games were fucking too guilty of this shit back in the day
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>>739956479
Wasn't for me when I was a kid. Kids these days are just ADHD-having little morons with brains cooked by phonefagging all day.
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>>739972673
>that one in a million game where the way too hard difficulty comes from advanced AI rather than bulletspongemaxxing
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>>739972673
On Jedi Knight difficulty and above I just pretend I'm playing MGS most of the time, even after getting the saber. The stun baton can do stealth kills and the basic Bryar pistol is a good sniper weapon. Sometimes I look through the disruptor rifle scope to line up a shot and then switch to the Bryar pistol's charge shot to actually do it. And once you have Mind Trick you can skip many fights with it.
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>>739971554
NPC Ragnos can crash the game because it is missing most animations. While the game can mostly handle it with T-posing, sometimes it shits the bed.
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>>739960135
No one could ever be as cool as Yun on LS path.
>refuses to let Katarn die like a dog because his code of honor, twisted as it might be, wouldn't allow it
This is the type of villain we need more of.
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>>739973028
nah it always crashes unmodded
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>>739973075
Yun was cool and wasn't really a villain, he was just raised by terrible people. He even says himself he's only ever known Dark Jedi, meaning he was raised around them. He's also the only member of Jerec's gang to use only light side powers.
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>>739963086
It would have been funny if they made killing him only pushed you into grey jedi territory, and executing Tavion or something.
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>>739972286
>Trivia time! You(and bots) can actually block saber swings. It just needs to hit your saber and that's it. That's why you sometimes see people crouching in MP with red style, to hopefully block a swing.
Played that game for 10 years and while you are technically right, in practice, no. The the explaination is far simpler. (noobs) crouch because the meta is to spam horizontal red swings and poke. Crouching can make the horizontal swing go over one's head if the other guy is also a noob. Saber blocking in MP is so unreliable it might as well not exist and poking throws it out the window compeltely. It kinda works in single player. Kinda. But even there the game is 90% about spacing and timing and not trusting the coin toss that is blocking and parrying.
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>>739972836
it mostly comes from limiting your health to 50 and spawning more enemies
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>>739972286
>tfw me switching to blue style to DFA my lightsaber up their butthole
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>>739973286
Enemies also shoot wwwway more accurately and with a higher rate of fire. Force users use the force much more aggressively and so on.
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>>739973286
>spawning more enemies
Isn't there a character limit?
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>>739973362
Yeah those guys were fucking annoying to duel. They literally just come at you crouching, like, not even trying to hide what they are trying to do, because they can fuck up and live like 4 times but only have to suceed once or twice.

Nothing beats the cancer that is using a staff saber and switching one blade on and off constantly to glitch through the opponent's block and parries.
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>>739973620
Someone in this thread definitely fapped to her.
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>>739969743
Outcast plays pretty much the same but more focus on guns.
Dark Forces II is even more gun oriented.
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>>739974118
this is the most relevant this meme has ever been
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Jan Ors has a fat ass
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>>739973620
>Kills you with just a look
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>>739972836
You're not kidding.

I missed a bunch of shots but by my count 32 landed and still didn't die. This is the first (optional) level by the way.
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>>739974798
pretty sure 1 charged headshot puts the guy down
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>>739974798
Boomers REALLY consider this good?
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Is there any hope that the new kotor won't be shit?
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>>739968013
NTA I remember in JO that they had to patch and rebalance the whole game because pull+aerial kick could be chained and it was so strong that it was melting everyone in saber combat. So arenas were just pull+pull+pull+kick+kick+kick on macro keybinds and whoever hit first won
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>>739975150
Bro..... It was cancelled like a year ago.
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>>739968186
cpd4 was in quake 3
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>>739974798
kek
when I learned the detonator launch trick of dropping them and then force-pushing them, my days of using blasters was over.
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>>739975469
>Anon figuring out the force hot potato trick
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>>739975252
I remember a patch to address saber combat in general because so many moves had invulnerability frames that held your saber out that did damage ON TICK. So the backwards stab on light style would hold your saber out while it was doing the full damage of a complete light-style jab every tick. That trick made lightsaber combat too dangerous because the hurtbox was instant, you could be fighting normally and instantly die from them 180 + backstab
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>>739975275
Ok...
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>>739975275
I thought the remake got cancelled
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>>739975768
How do you remake a game that isn't even out yet?
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>>739976124
It's happened before
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>>739975275
Fate of the Old Republic is still in development, though. The devs are aiming for a 2029 release.
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>>739948296
When Disney bought Star Wars one of the first things they did was disable these commands
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>>739957180
Agreed, definitely my favourite star wars game. The levels and secrets are really fun. Well, a few of the levels are bad, but most of them are good. I love old-school FPS where everything feels so raw and snappy. There's no floaty extra animation bullshit. And you can go faster by running diagonally, as god intended.
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>>739977312
>When Disney bought Star Wars one of the first things they did was disable these commands
i don't know if this is true but those commands were sort of snuck in by lucas arts anyway
when george first saw the dark forces games he was shocked by how violent they were, and he was unhappy
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>>739961067
Jerec >>> Dassan
dumb lizard
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>>739948132
nar shaada is probably the hardest level in the game tbqh, and it's bullshit that they throw you into a sniper hell like that the moment you get the saber.
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>>739974798
The reticle is off center
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>>739973620
>when she pops deadly sign as you're bout to nut
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>>739977523
sight*
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>>739977474
it's really poor as a shooter in single player. mp mechanics work better but the dynamic crosshair is fucking ass
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>>739948132
Ha ha ha. Someone got filtered by the

>welcome to nar shadaa, here's a million disruptor rifle snipers, it's almost as if we bad guys realise we might have to fight jedi or republic troops in heavy armour or something...

Level.
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>>739972594
If Desaan had been found by the Jedi when he was young, and for the sake of argument let's say Palpatine and Order 66 failed, who would have made for a good master for him? I've got it in my head that Plo Koon would have done well by him.
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>>739974798
Dude. Wtfru even doing? Pop force shield and speed and charge one one fucking headshot ffs.
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>>739977448
It is not bullshit. It's to punish retards who think
>WOO LIGHTSABRE > EVERYTHING WOOOO
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>>739974798
Bodyshots are basically a waste of ammo on high difficulties. Either learn to blast heads, or rush Lightning 3 for the best ranged attack in the game.
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i love most of movie battles 2 but i hate how hard it leans into the skill curve autism, i just wish there was a deathmatch mode like in base jka to appease to filthy casuals such as myself
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>>739980810
Unironically Qui Gon, he was said to be really good with edge cases that were teetering toward the dark side. It's why he would've kept Anakin to the light.
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>Kyle Katarn is now two different unrelated characters
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angery
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i only respect people who beat the game on jedi master
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Kyle is how i imagined Jedi before the Prequels. Some rugged cowboy guys going around the galaxy taking no shit and beating the breaks off bad guys. Not some kind of sterile monks.
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>>739982819
kyle is what a jedi SHOULD be - wandering, ass-kicking good guy, but by the time of the prequels the jedi had become lazy and complacent due to centuries of peace. One of the reasons Qui Gon's death in episode 1 was a tragedy was because he still followed the old school jedi ways of being a wanderer who actually goes out and fights evil, and he would have been the one to keep anakin on the right path.

>tfw you realize that the 'duel of the fates' is literally a duel to determine anakin's eventual fate, and with qui gon's death anakin is fated to become darth vader
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just press F3 (that's force speed) lol
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>>739982042
why didn't Qui Gon be a force ghost for Anakin too instead of just Obi Wan
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>>739983941
Qui Gon died before he completed the training to become a force ghost.
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its hard on hardest difficulty
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>>739957180
I would watch a whole season of Katarns adventures in this resolution. It looks comfy af
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>>739959385
>but not knowing where you're supposed to go a lot of the times.
This is me in the first level. Each of my replays of this game is far enough apart that I forget where I should go and have to figure it out again
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>>739957180
This kino had such a gritty, industrial maximalist atmosphere where you're like a tiny flea in a world ten billion times your size. Sneaking aboard a giant ship shaped like a whale through the fuel pipes that are like thousands of feet tall. Nar Shaddaa was also such a cool, dangerous and grimy place where you really felt tiny writing around it's twisting guts.
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>>739984701
Qui Gon invented force ghosting and only appears to troll Kenobi
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Sequels should have just been Kyle Katarn story
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>>739985916
Kyle right out the gate would have absolutely been guaranteed kino
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*HEP*
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>Best level in the game is only in the Demo
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Coming back to the older Star Wars games feels weird knowing that they not part of the main canon anymore
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>>739987585
Feels nice knowing that the canon I made up for my Kel Dor Jaden and all my time in Galactic Battlegrounds was better than what the main canon became
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>>739987585
>>739987639
Yeah, I'm very thankful that Gisnep walled off all the good shit as Expanded Universe so I don't have to participate in any new garbage. I didn't even care enough to feel disgust at the mando and gorgoo movie, it didn't even register as something for me to consider seeing, apathy is death, and new Star Wars is dead to me.
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>>739988067
for the past few days I've had a mysterious urge to play JA again specifically for this mission
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>>739974798
>using the lowest damage weapon to try and kill a normal enemy in the highest difficulty
that shit doesn't even kill at a decent rate (unless its a charged shot) in normal difficulty



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