>>739961171
No. Dawn of War 1 will remain the best

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Considering how incompetent CA is, it's gonna take 10 years until it's where it should've been at launch

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Underrated

Is Space Marine 2 good?

>>739961484
>DEI
>EULA
>kernel anti cheat
I don't even care at this point

>>739961484
I played the free weekend. The combat does not feel crunchy which was disappointing to me. I may not have reached a high enough difficultly level for coop, but it wasn't engaging. The whole time I thought to myself, Darktide's combat is more fun. The load times are atrocious too and it's not that my computer is bad, it's loading screen after loading screen. 10 seconds here, 10 seconds there, oh your teammate left we have to kick you back to your lobby, another 10 seconds.

>>739962074
>Darktide's combat is more fun
Grim

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>>739961402
Can't wait for 40k total war. I'm gonna front flip gabriel angelos into the enemy army and have my 19 tac marines shoot into the blob. Not primaris tac marines tho, they cost 5 more gold in upkeep, it's not worth it

>>739961427
What game?

>>739962602
Armageddon

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I'm unironically super excited for total war 40k, I love dawn of war but I love the scale being shown in the trailers, I just need my boys and I'll be set for life
The only concern I have is diplomacy, it should be 10 fold more vitriolic and racist than fantasy, I want the leaders trying murder each other through insults

>>739961171
Nope, DoW4 stole its lunch money.

>>739962909
I want bombastic soundtracks back. Also the diplo is prob going to be what it is in tw warhammer. It's a balancing nightmare making it so the ai behaves like skaven. So expect space marines being able to ally with chaos etc

>>739961484
It lacks mechanical depth, but it does a good job of making you look cool while killing stuff I guess.

Bump

Why are 40k thread allowed despite not being video games? We don't have Forgotten Realms/DnD threads with people talking about their campaigns just because some games use the ruleset/lore.

>>739965720
i don't know, maybe because the thread is actually talking about video games. just a guess

>>739965720
40k is there to save gaming. It's already doing it with making the best games in various genres.
On top of this 40k is 4chan's choice of a setting. Always was. Honestly, if you don't like 40k, you don't belong on this site

>>739961171
total war 40k looks like absolute garbage still made with the old engine
dow4 is literally dead on release due to being a dead genre

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>>739966519
it's new engine

>>739966145
>making the best games in various genres
name two (dwa) other than Dawn of War

>>739966663
Now show an actual battle. It looked exactly like old engine and nothing like what they showed for medieval 3

>>739966519
It's a new engine tailor made for the game

>>739965720
>Complaining about 40k on topic threads instead of the dozens of other gachashit and blatant coomerbait threads that flood the board
Fuck /v/

>>739966892
Gullible retard

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The only good thing about WH40K is the lore

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>>739962561
>>739962909
>>739966145
>>739966663
>>739966892
You are going to cry so many sweet tears.
You're gonna learn. With pain and disappointment.
We can't wait.

>>739966987
Two wrongs don't make a right, anon. Also just curious. I don't even dislike the 40k threads (made this one myself).

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>>739967182
Explain how i'm wrong then

>>739961171
>Will 40k total war change the tide?
It's CA we're talking about here and they're making it for consoles too. Odds are it's going to disappoint.

>>739961484
No, overly simplistic for how annoyingly unsatisfying the game is
Highest difficulty consists consistently of the game taking what few fundamental mechanics there are, away from you
And this is indicative of how retarded the people in charge of the game are

>>739967378
CA historically goes full autismo at the cost of polish
That's hardly a reason the game will be bad, but consistently a reason a game will be buggy on launch or just unsatisfying for alot of people
But it won't be bad

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>>739961171
I don't know man I just want to destroy battlesuits.

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>>739967240
Why? It's already proven to be the best Total War ever created
>>739966746
They showed those already, down to destructible buildings and cover system
>>739966717
Well the best action game currently is either Space Marine 2 or Darktide
Rogue Trader is the best cRPG in years and Dark Heresy is already even better

>>739967895
Disregard the tard
There's always some fucking retard that plays[a total war game] that actively hates [other total war games]
None of this helps CA and frankly CA is foolish for making games for this consistently retarded, entitled, and spoiled audience
They only make these games because they're the only people that want to

>>739967895
>They showed those already, down to destructible buildings and cover system
Link the video then.

>>739967895
>Well the best action game currently is either Space Marine 2 or Darktide
That's an extremely broad stroke you're making here, anon. Also bait used to be believable.

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>>739968330
last vlog
>>739968341
nothing is better

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>yep, for me, this it it
>found my calling
>sign me up with the doodoo boys
explain yourselves

>>739961171
Darktide and SM2 are the only good games. Unfortunately. Ain't no one playing there RTS games and weird "Doom" shit like Boltgun

>>739968223
They didn't show a single battle you don't piece of shit, just maps. And they look exactly like tww maps.

>>739967498
Have you played TWWH3 at release? It was not only buggy but also shit and poorly designed, it only came with the shitty Chaos Wastes campaign and pretty much everyone hated it, while the mode everyone actually wanted to play (Immortal Empires) was nowhere in sight. It took them forever to bring it to a decent state and after that they fucked it up again several times.

With this one since it's coming to consoles you can fully expect it to be dumbed down (for the audience) and low scale / small in scope (for the slow console hardware). That's on top of the general-purpose dogshit you can expect from a CA release just because it's CA and they're a greedy, shitty company with no real quality standards of their own.

I hope beyond hope it's somehow going to be a good game but I just can't believe it, CA is guaranteed going to fuck it up and they're guaranteed going to chase the hypercasual "wider audience" who cannot take in-depth strategy and just wants to look at their space marines shooting crap.

Imagine what concessions they have to make for the real-time battle system in order to balance it around playing with a fucking analog stick. It's going to be so dogshit and simplified.

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>>739969125
I bet that it's going to be the most broken total war to date on launch because it's the first game on this new engine. Just like how empire tw was and still is today broken as fuck on a brand new engine

>>739969272
Yeah that's all very plausible.

>>739961427
This would be cool if it didn't devolve into tanks and ogryns half way through.

>>739969042
they literally did in first trailer already
Everything described in interview is in, including destructible buildings which damage nearby orks and cover system
All other vlogs and blogs reinforce this

>>739969125
>and low scale / small in scope (for the slow console hardware)
consoles are stronger than PCs Total War players have lmao

It's all desperate cope from doomsissies anyway, only example of strategy game going bad by having some afterthought version for consoles is Supreme Commander 2, which would be dumbed down anyway

>>739970190
Nah, console CPUs are complete shit. They're old Zen 2 designs and on top of that they're clocked lower than their PC counterparts, plus they're also completely handicapped because consoles only have very high latency GDDR memory. You'd need to run some truly ancient PC to "match" just how crap consoles are. I actually played TW back in the day when I had a Zen 2 CPU as well and I remember how bad it was in big battles, like <30FPS even with tuned, low latency memory and significantly higher CPU clock. Console CPU performance is going to be significantly below that.

Scale is going to be tiny or else consoles are going to run <30FPS. Best we can hope for is that they lock out large unit sizes for the dogshit console version of the game and we get the bigger model counts on PC at least, but they might not do even that for parity reasons. Even if we do get it, the game is going to be balanced and designed around battles with small unit sizes and small model counts.

I guess you can hope and pray for miracle optimization that will get amazing performance out of the bad console CPUs but this is CA we're talking about. They are technically incompetent.

>>739970927
>or else consoles are going to run <30FPS.
they're going to have drops to 20 anyway

>>739970927
>Best we can hope for is that they lock out large unit sizes for the dogshit console version of the game and we get the bigger model counts on PC at least, but they might not do even that for parity reasons. Even if we do get it, the game is going to be balanced and designed around battles with small unit sizes and small model counts.
They introduced scaling in TWW3. Up until TWW2 they were balancing on Large. Since TWW3 they have some system to scale balance automatically

>>739961484
multiplayerslop shooters can't be good

>>739971062
Yeah that's what I expect too. They'll have to limit scale and it's still going to run poorly.

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zamn, total war warhammer 40k looks like this?

>>739962909
I feel like this set of 4 factions at launch (Space Marine, Imperial Guard, Eldars Orks) is kinda incomplete. It'd just need one more, whether it is Tyranids, Chaos, Taus or whatever. It just needs a fifth.

TW:WH40K is unironically releasing on consoles?
How?
Their piece of shit games have asinine loading times and poor performance out the ass even on fairly decent computers.
Nevermind that the RTS elements never work out well on consoles.
This is going to be so ass

>>739971105
That sounds even worse, CA is not competent enough to watch out for edge cases or units where an automatic system doesn't work properly and they will not put in the work to balance manually for different sizes. It's not strictly a numbers game because unit size interacts differently with different situations, for example an infantry unit with more models would nominally be considered stronger but at the same time it may actually become more vulnerable to AoE damage when more models are squished into a battle line while fighting. Giving a single-entity monster more HP might look alright on the surface but it may still end up disadvantaged against increased numbers in AP shooter infantry units and shit like that. A melee monster might need adjustments to its multi-target attacks to cope with increased numbers in infantry units and so on.

There's no way CA is going to make an automatic system that correctly takes into account all that shit.

>>739971490
New engine it will be amazing.

>>739971459
>>739961402