How do we save PC gaming from death?Next week Jensen and Microsoft will announce the push for ARM architecture. We won't have a 60xx series line of cards and other part makers will be dropping it as a result pushing us to prebuilt ARM machines. This is what they want. The death of consumer built/managed PCs.What can we do or who can we contact to prevent this? Gabe isn't going to save us, the steam machine will be too expensive and flop and Valve is pushing for ARM as well.I'm scared bros.
let it die. you're gonna have bigger problems when food quintuples in price soon. if you're lucky you'll be able to find someone to buy your pc just so you can afford a few more bags of potatoes.
It's already over. Pc gamers are too complacent and think their current build is going to last them forever when all of their parts have a shelf life. The secondhand part market is just going to be like the retro game market, way overpriced.
Arm will flop and they'll come crawling back, ezpz
>>739970992You're naive if you think that. Nvidia isn't even reporting their gaming sector numbers anymore because they just don't give a shit about us anymore. They're pitching ARM machines as a "here this is all you need now shut up and stop bothering us" option.
>>739970493Lets move to Linux and kill PC.
>>739970493this will surely go all the places it did last time.
>>739970493Is this real?
>>739970592>he's not already growing potatoesKEEEEEEEEEEKKKK
>>739970592Hopefully you've stocked up on tinfoil
Two more weeks, the bubble will pop
>>739970493Consoles are dead tooYou voted for this
>>739972201nobody is talking about consoles here quit being insecure
>>739972317You should be, because it's all electronics, not just PCs
>>739970592Games in general are dying. If you haven't noticed: Anything that doesn't run on a low-to-mid range smartphone is going to become massively unpopular.NowYou may say this is the death of PC gamingBut did you see the kind of games that were coming out when PC gaming was 'unpopular' with normalfags? Literal kino directed only by creator-directors.You're telling me you would rather have open world slop from ubishit instead of games like Duke Nukem, Doom, Age of Empires, the first Fallouts, etc? Because all I hear when I see people complain "GAMING IS DYING LESS NORMALFAGS ARE BUYING AAAAA" is that they WANT to reward the game industry for being trapped in mediocrity, chasing spec goals to make better movies instead of making better GAMES, and never punish them for chasing a trend that was sure to end eventually, anyway. RAM shortage or not. Don't you want to return to kino that runs on anything? Because some of the best games keep coming out despite the doomposting and no one has ever vocalized why it's a bad thing that the Ubisofts and EA's of the world are dying. I WANT PC to go back to being niche, YOU want PC to go back to being niche. The only people who don't want that are the ones who should be spending their money on consoles anyway IE the faggots that used to get filtered by PC gaming.
>>739972363op is talking about pc hardware, consoles got nothing to do with our ability to build a pc in the future
>>739972387You listed huge budget (for the time) PC games that required cutting edge hardware
Why bother? Whats it good for?
STADIA CHADS, RISE UP!
>>739970493>>739972387Also the deluge of chink parts means that the age of gated hardware is over. Everything is going to become Linux compatible and everyone is going to be running Linux machines and not care at all about NVidia and leather coat man demanding to own the consumer hardware market.
>>739972437Actually the ability for a console manufacturer to make affordable products is directly related to the ability of consumers to make an affordable PCThat's why when consoles were the cheapest, so were PCs.
>>739972201Are consoles dead? Even with the price increases the PS5 and Switch 2 are still selling a quarter of a million consoles a week. They kinda seem unaffected by all this even with the prices going up.
>>739972694They're doing a hell of a lot better than PCs are.
>>739972443Not true, thoughbeitever. Doom, for instance, was tailor made for the most popular hardware at the time, not enthusiast machines. Almost everyone running an IBM computer had 4MB of RAM and a hard disk because that's what IBM and IBM clones had. Simcity and Rollercoaster tycoon, another game of the era, was made for toasters and had numerous efficiency hacks to make them compatible.Game designers lost sight of the fact that these old games were good because the GAME part was good, not just the graphics part. The new technology gave way to better ways to make video games, new technology now only gives way to make better movies. Indie devs can now make a fallout game almost entirely with teams of a few people. If you shed most of the AAA game industry who is rightfully suffering for reasons people have been harping on about for years, the PC market is doing better than ever.
>>739972694They only seem unaffected if you're retarded It's not a coincidence the two Japanese console manufacturers are coping and hoping big brother America fixes everything soon, so they're eating potential losses by selling consoles at less than current manufacturing costs, which will only hit their bottom line harder when that older stock eventually runs out.
>>739972437wow i guess consoles don't use RAM, video chips, hard drives, CPUs, etc.>>739972694Consoles are the only viable choice if you want to play games right now in terms of price vs reward, but they'll get their turn. The savings only last insofar as the manufacturers are fine with eating losses on the hardware, and that won't last forever.
>>739972862Nintendo has no problem eating losses when Pokemon can print money for them and make it up.
>>739970493you have to vote with your wallets. Stop buying anything that is intrinsically a proponent of DirectX. This means stop buying Nvidia products, stop buying Unreal games, stop buying Microsoft games, stop buying Sony games.Make yourself aware of what a game is designed with. Make yourself aware of what technologies exist and where they come from. >raytracing there is already FOSS real time GI that is more accurate and far more performant than dedicated raytracing methods>ditheringdon't fool yourself>dlssyou can get fsr4 and afmf globally for free. You don't need specific games to require it>b-b-but windowsso just stop using it, you don't need to be a brand eco suckler
>>739972526consoles don't use pc components in their systems though, so the fact that consumer pc parts are going away is not going to affect the console industrysure it will cost more for them to make consoles but they'll increase the price the customer has to payas it currently is consoles are not unaffordable enough to drive the average person away unlike with pcs where an ssd or kit of ram costs more than a consoleall that said, this has nothing to do with pc gaming so stop obsessing over consoles
>>739972201>You voted for thisgo fuck yourself you retarded subhuman.The AI arms race was always gonna happen. Its military applications are insane, its why the USA is pushing hard to make sure most data centers will be hosted inside its borders.Also no, consoles are not dying, they're selling more than ever.
>>739970493>pushing us to prebuilt ARM machineswhat makes you think that anon? you can already buy custom arm pcs like x86.
>>739970493I'm kind of glad because it's actually getting way too popular to the point where it's beating PS5 sales by a noticeable margin. Shit, I was actually surprised when Elden Ring sold on PC more and that's a big one.
>>739972937>there is already FOSS real time GI that is more accurate and far more performant than dedicated raytracing methods!!!! where!? i wanna see it
>>739972954You can rage all you want but we literally warned you in 2016 about him. No, no one else was gonna be nearly this bad as Elon's buddy who gets kickbacks.
>>739972937>Stop buying anything that is intrinsically a proponent of DirectX. This means stop buying Nvidia products, stop buying Unreal games, stop buying Microsoft games, stop buying Sony games.i've been advocating for this, alongside a handful of based gamers, for many many years, nobody listens, everyones a goyslave consoomer, they never cared about the long-term ramifications for rewarding cynical monopolies.I hate Intel-aviv, but if their next-gen gpu that they were supposedly working on, was a decent upgrade over my 7900xtx, and the drivers were improved, i would have bought it in a second if the price was right, simply to stimulate competition in the gpu-space. But nope, blackpills are being force-fed right now...
>>739972954>consoles aren't dyingcertifiably false but go off nintendoneThere hasn't been a new Zelda or Mario in a decade
redpill me on ARMis it truly better than what we have?bonus points for wall texts of autism
>>739972862>wow i guess consoles don't use RAM, video chips, hard drives, CPUs, etc.yes that's correctbecause they don't use the same parts we dotheir hardware is custom made and they buy it differently than we do. on contract with a deal that they and negotiate on because they're purchasing their hardware in bulk.us on the other hand, we're buying individual parts separately from part makers who uncharged each of the parts they sell us to make up for product handling. every one of our components is bleeding money out of us. what's worse is when these part makers see we're not buying their parts anymore but data warehouses will buy up their parts in bulk and they get to name the price then all of a sudden these part makers are going to disappear and do business with big tech.meanwhile consoles are still negotiating for their hardware needs in bulk because they have more power than us.that's why this is a drastically different situation and world we're talking about. we're talking about consumer level pc components.
>>739973318They do use the same parts though
Consoles definitely aren't going nowhere so long as it takes $2k to build a low-mid range pc that's for sure
>>739973201Yeah man, those record breaking Switch 2 sales sure are a sign of consoles dying, huh?
>>739973318Hey dipshipt, who's gonna make those parts when they're busy pumping out parts for data centers and other fuckery? Do you not see the prices of consoles already going up? Are you blind, retarded, or both?
>>739970493We don't. I love seeing you guys get taken down a notch.t. Xbox enthusiast.
>>739973040HDDAGII tried to get a video for you but I'm phone posting
>>739973201And that somehow stops Switch 2s from flying off shelves, particularly when a new Pokemon comes out?
>>739970493We vote someone into office who will regulate AI and force these fuckers to put us first
>>739973425They think Nintendo is invincible
If cheap prebuilt ARM boxes allow playing the vast majority of games in existence via FEX-Emu, is this really such a loss? Diminishing returns have hit gaming hard for decades.
>>739970493It is a laptop chip. Amd and intel will still have their chips. The world didnt end when apple released their new chips.
>>739973465I've never seen switch 2 stock out anything like the first switch or the wii it's sitting in every best buy Costco Walmart around fully stocked.
>>739972512who?
>>739973542Doesn't mean they aren't selling like hotcakes. Even PS5 sales have been trouncing PC these days.
>>739970493I doubt gaming companies will allow this to happen, they are already making good money with the way things operate and this guy >>739973520 is also correct
>>739973201im PC master race retard, look at the sales numbers of the consoles, you're being a fuckwit, stick to the thread subject. There's been new zeldas all the fucking time, not that >739973090Gtfo of this thread, this website, and this existence, you astroturfing r*dditor-tard, you have nothing of value to teach me or anyone ITT, you're a retarded goyslave spouting lies, dangling on the strings of masters who hate you, and they're right to.Go let Bad Orange Man live rent-free in your smooth brain in your own time.
>>739973616I just doubt the sales mean anything significant when neither company can afford to make a decent game. If they're even real, because who the fuck is buying them?
drop gamingthats what any sane person would do
>>739973696Many people. Mostly for Tomodachi Life and Pokopia lately.
>>739973694>elect guy who ruins everything >NO IT'S NOT MY FAULT KAMALA WOULD'VE BEEN THE SAME LALALALAkek
Nvidia is gonna crash and die when the ai bubble pops.
>>739973616>PS5 sales have been trouncing PC these daysBy what metric? Movie games sell more on ps5 than pc? No shit.
>>739973694Damn man, you mad.
You can't, it's over. Your current pc will be your last.
>>739973635>I doubt gaming companies will allow this to happenWhat are they gonna do, write Nvidia a sternly-worded letter?
>>739973616Are you comparing total software sales cost on ps5 vs pc? No.
>>739973837It's because he knows deep down he did vote for the death of his own hobby
>>739973443>>739973040here
>>739972778maybe we will finally get some good games
>>739973859>you'll quit gaming, learn a hobby, and all aaa developers and publishers will go bankrupt Oh no.
>>739971180nigger how the fuck is that gonna work? linux on a hunk of shit mobile phone motherboard with dogsbit specs, is still a computer with dogshit specs. i like emulating retro games or playing low graphics indie games as much as the next guy but j also want the option to play something new or more CPU/GPU heavy if i want
I hope these prices are placeholders
>>739970493Fuck that. How do we kill gaming in general?
>>739973872Not provide support
>>739974015They're not.
I have a top of the line PC, by the time I need to upgrade either new capacity will be online and prices will have come down to normal, or AI will have floundered and everyone will be desperate to sell their shit and prices will crater.
>>739973924But hey, he owned the libs, right?
>>739974043Nvidia can lose the entire market to AMD and their stock will still go upNot only has gaming never been their main revenue stream, they would lose selling to console manufacturers instead of using those machine hours on AI chips.
>>739973160I know how you feel anon. it's all so tiring.The b580 is fine enough but it really does need you to have a specific system config which ludicrously enough, is in a cost range that only someone getting a more expensive gpu would buy
>PC gaming thread>Turns into "but but but consoles!" every timeWhy are you motherfuckers so obsessed with the people you constantly refer to as peasants?
On the one hand I want gaming to become a rich people hobby and price out all browns.On the other hand I'm afraid of the "you will own nothing" corpo tyranny angle where they will just stop supplying PC parts altogether.
>>739970592>you're gonna have bigger problems when food quintuples in price soon.wut?
>>739974319They don't wanna admit how irrelevant they've become so they lash out at console owners in anger.
>>739974372yeah i miss when the internet was majority white. even in like 2012 i remember feeling a distinct difference between randos on f2p games versus paid online games. third world / brown people fucking suck dude, we’re just not the same. but yeah i also dont want the “buy a overpriced terminal to cloud game on” fuuuuck that
>every hobby of mine is going to get worse>paint I use for modeling is made of petrochemicals, main brand I used already put out a statement that their supply is so constrained their catalog is going to be dramatically reduced >plastic of the models themselves is made of petrochemicals and have already been going up before this, will go up even higher>god forbid any component of my rig breaks>baking is going to get more expensive due to produce getting hammered with the increase costs of shipping and fertilizer, impacting flour and other ingredients >grilling is going to get more expensive because propane is going to go up>all because some 60-80 year old fuckwits wanted to play ball with forces beyond their comprehension I'm losing my ability to cope.
>>739974374Gas prices are directly related to food costs. It's already happening desu.
>>739974516Idk how people that voted for him can cope about ruining any hope their kids had for a decent life, along with their own peasantification.
>>739970493Two. More. Weeks.
>>739974374NTA but farms have been getting hit hard as an externality of the middle east war. Farms rely a ton on gas for their production from planting, harvesting, and shipping. Beyond that, they also ship in fertilizers, which have also spiked in costs. Beyond that, anything that comes in a plastic packaging is also going to see an increase in costs, because plastic is made of petrochemicals which comes from oil. It will not be a reckoning that comes immediately, but it will come.
Non games have already bought a mac. Gamers arent going to run out and buy an overpriced arm laptop that performs worse. Amd and intel both have new lines coming out and are focusing on low watt performance as well. But sure, nvidia's arm chip will kill hardware because???
>>739974516The chemicals used in plastic are a byproduct of producing gasoline, which has not slowed down one bit since the war. Gas has just gone up in price like 15%, it didn't stop being refined.
>>739971137They can pitch what they want, if it can't run games no one buys it.
>>739974516yeah bro if gaming and computers price me out i might actually become a terrorist. all they had to do was leave the fucking internet and gaming alone. i already dropped out of work since a year lmao. fuck this society. quiet quit gang where we at
>>739974738The cost of bringing the byproduct to the plants that need it have increased and logistics of getting their raw materials have become tricky at best with the strait.
PC dying is goodGaming is healing
>>739974454everyone is irrelevant anonexclusives dont exist anymore
>>739975034Except Nintendo's
>>739975058you righti forgot of them and its the only console i would borrow to play their stuff
>>739974650>ruining any hope their kids had for a decent lifeThe 60s did that by destroying birthratesAll advanced countries in the world will shit themselves in a few generations because their women stopped making babies.Trump, immigration, AI, whatever, all of that is practically irrelevant compared to female emancipation, the ultimate civilization-killer
It's probably for the best pc goes back to a lesser, niche userbase. Back when /v/ convinced me to join the master race I thought being unified on one platform would be for the best but honestly without the consoles competing against each other gaming has stagnated severely and I think it's because the everyone merged into PC briefly. Thankfully it sounds like both Sony and Xbox's new heads are backing out of pc in favor of exclusives, so I think between PC gaming getting priced out of everyone's budget and consoles going back to exclusives gaming will start healing back to the way it was.
>>739975207>because their women stopped making babies.Sweet.
>>739970493i can't imagine the level of moron you have to be to think pcs will actually dieall muh cloud doomposting hinges entirely on the idea that all the internet infrastructure can survive the rape that would be caused by everyone streaming
even if the chinese gpu get better they will go all in ai too
>>739975256It also hinges on it being cost effective, which according to Microsoft during the ftc hearings, it isn't yet.
>>739973426>t. dead brand enthusiastrofl
>>739970493>How do we save PC gaming from death?We don't
>death of pc gamingAnd nothing of value was lostPc vegans are less than valuable. Their existence means I'm owed value
>>739975752consolegroids are funny, if anything's going it's those lower margin shitboxes, they're a waste of silicon allocation
>>739972201>Consoles are dead tooCope, Switch 2 and PS6 (home/handheld) already won 10th gen, it's over.
>>739975838You wish. PCs aren't even popular anymore, its all smartphones and tablets.
>>739975862give me the winning numbers of next week lottery
>>739975978did you miss the part where they're almost as big as all the consoles combined?not to mention pc will be the only one that's going to get any new blood because zoomers and alphoomers no longer give a shit about those toyboxes and mobile will soon be an entry point to pc
>>739975005/thread
>>739970493X86 is obsolete and inefficient boomerslop, get with the times or just die already, grandpa
>>739976147hope you're implying that you want risc-varm is complete goyware and it's not even actually more efficient, just using newest process nodes
>>739976136>because zoomers and alphoomers no longer give a shit about those toyboxesThe huge Switch 2 sales say otherwise.
>>739975228>Xbox's new heads are backing out of pc in favor of exclusives, so I think between PC gaming getting priced out of everyone's budget and consoles going back to exclusives gaming will start healing back to the way it was.>Xbox Project Helix will play your console (emulated) and PC gamesYou're an idiot. This is Nintendo's and Sony's rodeo now. Xbox is a PC and is a part of this death. Microsoft, like always, made a bad dumb decision that will cost them.>exclusivesYeah, after those Forza numbers, Microsoft pencil pushers will be questioning why they should be going back to exclusivity on a dead platform.
>>739972953>consoles don't use pc components in their systems though>fans>power supply>heatsinks>apus>motherboards>ram
>>739976298retardthat's just millennials reaching financial independencehaven't you seen their fucking ads? that's their target audience, not kids
>>739974015>expecting Nvidia to release something cheap in 2026heh.
>>739974007I can run the most dogshit ue5 games on my linux pc and I still find myself saying fuck this gay shit because the gameplay is massively braindead in most. Only UE5 game I have even been booting up is endless alice. I rather play something fun over something pretty though so I just boot up doom and hop on zand most of the time.
>>739973426>Xbot shitting on a PC playerI don't want to have to tell you this, anon, but the next Xbox IS a PC.
>>739974374That's the Israelite Trump Tax, goyim. The Strait of Hormuz being closed affects every single country on earth. Both gas and fertilizer storages run out soon and prices for virtually everything will skyrocket.
>>739973265No because you are a troon for liking that shit game past a certain point
>>739972512>gabe dies>steam goes public>they start building data centers>release their own version of the stadia but with steam osYou rike?
>>739972953This guy gets it, people are going to be expecting another price hike for Switch 2 that will never happen, and the PS6s prices are going to be a shocker in a way people aren't actually expecting.
>>739970493Pc gaming would inevitably die either when Gabe dies or Windows becomes so shit it drives everyone away or some regulation shit comes into play so this ai shit doing it in just means it's happening sooner than expectedEveryone knew what they were signing up for when they joined and if they thought it would last forever they were retarded
>>739977725Exactly, I thought Gabe could hold this shit out before the Steam Deck price hike, now I have no faith, it's over.
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>>739970493How do we prevent OPs from being liars and faggots?
>>739978427Internment camps.
>>739972387>Games in general are dyingLOL no they aren't. Western AAA games are dying yes. Asia is thriving. >Anything that doesn't run on a low-to-mid range smartphone is going to become massively unpopular.Like all the recent massively successful gachas that use the likes of EU5 and have graphics better than Cyberpunk? No the great video game collapse is not happening. Valve keeps making more money every year too.
>>739970592>Le mass starvation starts in 2 weeks bro You fags said the same shit would happen in 2022 due to the Jewkraine war
>>739975239Birth rates are collapsing in 3rd world too.
>>739978664Even better.
Meanwhile in real world.
>>739975207I have incel fatigue
im waiting for the gaming industry to die so all you newfags can fuck off and we can have our hobby back
>>739978650And millions were supposed to die of Covid. And before that Ebola. Nothing fucking happens. US just lost to Iran and nothing fucking changed. Gas prices are already collapsing. Stock market is breaking records.
>>739978917The PS6 costing $700 or $800 should do that. Those normal faggots hate handhelds, so they'll ignore Sony's $500 handheld while gamers will buy up Switch 2s and PS6 handhelds leaving normalfags high and dry.
>>739978591Gachas aren't games, they're just slot machines with window dressing.
Genshin is breaking records in a month BTW. Again. It's not even that western gaming is dying, it's literally just american corps. Europe just had BG3 or Expedition 33.
>>739979103You are retarded. It's just a different monetization model.
>>739979152gacha is just money laundering
TWOMOREWEEKSPOP
>>739970493Valve saved linux, they can save arm.
>>739972953>consoles don't use pc components in their systems thoughHow do people like you even manage to navigate to this site.
>>739972694Because buyers are rushing out to get them before price hikes. Price hikes will keep coming and nobody is buying games. They are not in a healthy place and the longterm outlook is bad. There's a reason Nintendo's stock is in the gutter.
>>739983880You're coping, anon, it's over, consoles won.
>>739970493AMD will save PC gaming by offering 4% better value
>>739983980Only someone completely tech illiterate thinks consoles exist in a safer bubble. The more PC struggles, the worse off consoles will be.
>>739979790least degen 2hu fag opinion, based, we call it "tax-evasion", but scratch the evasion with "putting the taxes on the big guy" in the capitalist west.
>>739972387>Games in general are dying.Only consolefags feel this way. Gaming is better than ever on PC and PC and Steam is still thriving and breaking records despite the rise in costs.
>>739973265>ARMWhy the fuck are you talking about some processor architecture? You do realize they use the same fabs and memory as x86 processors right? The Raspberry Pi with 16 GB is 300 fucking dollars.
>>739984143Custom hardware, bulk spending, negotiated deals, no desktops or other stores, 30% tax on devs, locked-in optimization, actual retail presence, serve as a showcase for Nvidia and AMD chips, knowing what parts to have and which ones are too expensive. Yeah, consoles are in a far better position to tank this because Nintendo and Sony know how to make a console. It's clear as day that neither Microsoft nor Valve ever knew how to make one and it clearly shows.
>>739970493Who cares, AMD and Intel already pushed x86 to more efficient than the ARM mafia and are going to break the monopoly
>>739984313You just said a lot of stupid shit, but your very first point is perhaps the dumbest. Unless you want literal who chinese garbage in your console there is no reason for amd or nvidia to waste production on your shit anymore, the profit margins are garbage. You better pray all this blows over as quickly as possible because as it is consoles are on borrowed time.
>5700X3D + 32 GB RAM + 6800XTIt's holding pretty well, but I may want to upgrade my GPU. WuWa is becoming hard to run above 90 FPS.
>>739972201consoles can easily swap over to ARM in the next gen so they won't be affected once europe and other countries announce their ban on x86 for climate protection reasons due to its power consumptionpc will get fucked and lose access to 99% of its content
>>739979071god i hope so
>>739984313Consolefags still aren't willing to acknowledge there is no reason for any of these corporations to waste compute on consoles. The only reason they haven;t been slammed even harder is because of existing contracts, previous stockpiles and offsetting some of the cost on the main system by raising the prices on everything else.
>>739984526Nintendo and Sony bring the profit while showcasing their chips, PC gamers don't do jackshit for them, thus why they are abandoning you. I advise you start praying that these PC companies can have a heart and throw you fools a bone, because you're going to be in for a rude awakening in the future. PC is on its death bed, and it's because you retards allowed all that bullshit to happen from the 90s on up that got you here. I guess this is what happens when all you can do is chase high frame rates and resolution, huh. Enjoy the PC gaming collapse.
>>739984754>pure fanboy drivelYou type too much for a shitpost.
>>739984702Apple is fine, so PC companies, other than them, just seem to be retarded.
>>739972954uh-oh! someone is in the denial stage
>>739984797You sound mad, PC-uck
>>7399704932nd amendment
>>739984808>the corporation that was always charging you a 1000% markup is fineShocker.
>>739984646slap in a 9070XT or 5080
>>739970493Arm has always been the future, problem is everything that basically every video game and piece of software made on x86 won't work on Arm.
>>739985096Thank gayben valve is working on fex.
wait for it to turn out that its not a huge scheme to completely change the market for the worse. they are actually just extremely excited to reveal they have managed to design a hobby-use microsoft quantum processor.
>>739970493ARM is fine, we already have FEX.
>>739974319Because a lot of these threads and shitposting is console peasants trying to dunk on pc, but are too stupid to realize consoles would die long before pc does if pc was truly in trouble.
>>739973616You got PC sales numbers, boco, or are you just perpetually assblasted over PC as usual in your desperate attempt to keep getting screwed by consoles? Because Valve keeps breaking their concurrent user and revenue records.Console fanboys only fall in one of two camps; they either top out at 80 IQ, or they're just extremely autistic and terrified of change.
PC faggots are so insecure, I'm glad their market is dying, lmao. A long time coming.
>>739972778>>739972387 is right because gaming was still comparatively niche and new. You bringing up 4MB ram only weakens your argument: this was a lot of memory back then.>>739972387Your conclusion is correct, though. With the allure of PC gaming shrinking, we will have more passionate, and thus hopefully more grassroots/wantful publishers/executives.
>>739986038Cope lol
>>739986068>With the allure of PC gaming shrinking, we will have more passionate, and thus hopefully more grassroots/wantful publishers/executives.What. This is just a bizarre thing to say, let alone believe.
>>739986068Mostly everyone is going to just move to console development starting with the Switch 2 and PS6 handheld. PC is going to be left with low-quality indie shovelware.
>>739986417moshi moshi baito desuyo
>>739986223We will always have passionate devs. There is no reason to be a game developer unless you love games. Instead, I want to see publishers/executives who are in the game industry not because of the market share, but because they want to be a process of making games.>believeIf there's gaming's market cap mutates to what it was in the 80s/90s, it'll have same economic incentives and hopefully will result in similar executive structure. Was it perfect? No, but I hope it'll lower publishers expectations and drive them to want to push risker products.>>739986417We will see.
>>739986417Why is PS6 a handheld?
>>739986417Yeah if the prices for pc handhelds continue to be retarded, that will be the case. $1000-$1500 is too much and the companies making them aren't getting a discount for buying 100 million units worth of parts and outside of Valve don't have a storefront to subsidize their purchases with like Nintendo and Sony have. But even Valve doesn't have the same scale to get bulk discounts so the prices are still fucked for their products.The industry hasn't given up on cloud gaming yet though. Make no mistake, their end goal is to have NOTHING be client side in the future and it's going to be to stop random people from having access to local AI without guard rails.
The console delusion in this thread is absurd. People can't actually be this dumb.
Why are people acting like handhelds are that important? I feel like I'm viewing an alternate dimension
>>739970493China will save vidya.
>>739986983Buying bulk for an even lower margin on terrible margins when demand for compute and memory is sky high is not going to make any meaningful difference. PC is a vastly bigger market than consoles are and all the major component manufacturers are basically saying they don't even care about that in comparison to AI. Even electricity companies are saying fuck powering people's homes, we can get way more money powering data centers. Thinking Nvidia, AMD, Micron, etc. will make exceptions for consoles is like thinking electricity companies may shut off power to my house, but they'll make an exception for my TV. It's pure delusion.
Master race really went from being the underdog to the top dog to the laughing stock of the industry all in the span of 5 years, damn
>>739970493nah let it die, if the only option is the fat kike banning jp games arbitrarily and forcing devs to self censor for kosher standards i would rather have pc goyming crumble and become a mere fad long term
>>739987496That's why the end goal will be cloud everything so they can get away without putting any meaningful hardware in what you buy. You will be buying a screen that interacts with their servers without anything available locally.Think the Playstation Portal but streaming from data centers instead of from your PS5. This will be their end goal for phones too, the RAM and storage crisis' are also impacting those. This might be 10 years away still but tech CEOs have already stated this is their ideal. An ultra thin device that interfaces with data centers and that's it.
>>739979103retard
>>739984101lmao
>>739987169Consolefags are screeching because they take constant Ls from PC and this is their only window to try and dunk on it before they accumulate more Ls.
>>739987521They really are, every time something happens to their piece of shit, they immediately go "well consoles will do it too", it's pathetic. Their insecurities regarding consoles and people buying those over their unoptimized piece of shit is embarrassing.
>>739984671>consoles can easily swap over to ARM in the next genAnd lose BC.
>>739988020>happily pays a $1000 for a Pro with a disc drive and it doesn't even have path tracing
>>739987794It won't even be that. The problem with the cloud gaming thing is it eats compute that would have otherwise gone towards AI. Yes, some corporations might have wanted to push you will own nothing in this scenario, but not when that compute is still better served elsewhere for them.It's why what's currently happening is unsustainable. They're so focused on prioritizing AI, they're cutting out the people who'd pay to use it. They're basically betting on AGI and it becoming so insanely capable they won't need anyone's money, or anyone at all, and god knows what happens after that.
>>739970493Thank god I built a top of the line 5090 build a week before prices went crazy. Just sort of felt the need to replace my 13 year old rig out of no where so I did.
>>739970493Should have boughted more gpus goys, maybe nvidia would care about gamers still but pc gaming obviously isn't where the money is at
I unironically think video games as a concept will die in the next decade with PC gaming being the first to go.
>>739988157Says who, I'm not interested in home consoles, I'm only interested in handheld consoles.
>>739988449I don't know if it would be that soon, but younger generations are definitely not doing the type of gaming we're doing. It will probably dwindle down to Nintendo because they're like cockroaches.I definitely don't think the pc ecosystem has much longer though unfortunately. PC gaming as it is now will fade out in favor of the new tech they're pushing but pc gamers will refuse to adapt to it and that will be the end of it.
>>739988527>only interested in garbage that has lower value than literally the worst value pc can offer
>>739988604PlayStation may also survive it. Nips seems to be course correcting the West's fuck ups.
>>739988658Burnt out of TV gaming, just want to take my games everywhere with me. Couldn't and never gave a shit about power, glad that dumb shit is finally dying.
Cloud gaming is going to suck. There will be ques. There will be time limits. There will be data caps. And if you violate ToS you're banned from accessing the service forever. Plus you know there will be subscription tiers where only the welthiest subscribers get priority.
>Cloud gamingThat shit cost these companies more than native gaming, that shit is never going to kick off. Just to point out how dead cloud gaming is, Microsoft has that as the last thing to optimize for with Helix. The failing Xbox Series X|S are literally above Xbox Cloud. People shouting at the clouds are a bunch of idiots, they're just moving everything to AI. The real question is how long will it be before they finally kill cloud for costing them billion?
How do we save this board from tranime?
Master race will own nothing and they'll like it
FEX works very well and x86 really needs to be taken out back and shot. We can't keep patching fifty year old architecture forever.
>>739989421But consolecucks are the ones that agreed to contracts that cuck them out of control and functionality?You have the worst DRM by a landslide and you have no means of exerting any control over your hardware besides literally not using it
>>739989527Good goy, let a corporation dictate what your computer can and can't do because you fell for the efficiency psyop that doesn't even apply anymore
>>739989371Its not about the money. Its about controlling every aspect of your life through enshittification of everyday activities and social credit.
>>739979103Based>>739979287>>739987831>gachajeetranny melty
>>739970493>PC gaming is goign to die guys! This time for sure!Kek why are consoletards like this? Just stop being worthless peasants and join the Masterrace, it's literally that easy
>>739989646And what makes you think either Nintendo or Sony won't just follow Apple's example and design their own chips when it comes to this?
>>739979287A monetization model that makes all the games that use it have the same terrible design centered around it
>>739989842>i'm just gonna bury my head in the sand and pretend nothing is happening
>>739989412>tranimeby killing yourself, sharteen
>>739989943Nintendo would love cloud gaming if it means no more piracy. Why do you think game key cards exist?
>>739990102/v/ has been saying pc is a dying market for the past decade
>>739990102Right. THIS time MS will successfully push Pluton, locked down parts and cloud streaming. Or whatever it is that you're shitposting and fesrmongering about.
>>739989596You are a retarded zoomer, you have no idea what "efficiency" even means you faggot golem
>>739990141At this point, it sounds like you're on cope mode given that Nintendo is the only company still pushing physical media the hardest even over Sony.
>>739989943probably the fact that neither of them have anywhere near as much money as Apple to do it
>>739990182Yes fag, I do The only reason arm is considered efficient is due to the 14nm stagnation and the fact that apple is throwing money at the newest silicon When zen6 comes to 2nm there will be rape the world has never seen before
>>739990212What physical media they are pushing?
>>739973318>because they don't use the same parts we do>>739972953>consoles don't use pc components in their systems though >this is the average consolegro IQlmfao do you really think your PS5 SSD is some top secret custom built specialized hardware specifically designed for the PS5 and not generic mass produced cheap shit? Or that the Nvidia chips Nintendo uses arent downsized cheapass versions of their real moneymakers? POWER OF DA CELL was 20 years ago
>>739970493>How do we save PC gaming from death?[Redacted by the FBI/CIA/NSA/etc.] Sam Altman and crew.The faster the AI bubble pops, the better. But you want to start with Le Funny Leather Jacketman, who is the ringleader/supplying shit to Altman and crew.>>739970592>He hasn't put investments into Beans and Rice.LMAO.
>>739990212>Pushing physical media They invented a method to enshittify it and strip all the advantages away from it because they refuse to absorb the costs of their own retarded decisions They want to move you to digital
>>739974516dont gret goy. know that it is being done for a good cause! israeli world hegemony
>>739990339Their carts, also, back on that cloud shit, Nvidia's Tegra/Drive Line chips are save and Nintendo can use those for multiple generations of Switches. For Sony, they're basically making their own chips with AMD and doing their own thing with them such as PSSR, meaning we can have PS7-20. It seems like Nintendo and Sony will be safe from this, it really is just PC gaming that's fucked.
>>739974374He's saying the Economy is going to collapse, and he's right. It's just a matter of Trump's stupid "war" (read: idiot believed his cronies on exjudicially kidnapping a President and trying a second time/just that second time KILLING a president) causing the global shipping trade that props up EVERYTHING to collapse/raise-prices to the point of unaffordability.Beyond that, AI is pricing electronics out (which was happening before shipping/supply issues caused by Iran anyway), which is propping up nearly 80% of the American economy at this point.>>739974516We really need to Basedlant Green Boomers and Gen-X, unironically. Both are lead poisoned, so nothing of value lost.
>>739970592Two more weeks
>>739974738>it didn't stop being refined....And how is it getting to the refinery anon...?(Does he know?.jpg)
>>739990423>They want to move you to digitalI'm fine with that, physical is inconvenient. Now my games will never get lost. Also, digital games are cheaper anyway with Nintendo. If physical dies, oh well.
>>739990585>the redditards are still seething about Madurothey don't want him back, nigger.
>>739990528>Consolecucks really believe that if shit keeps getting worse then AMD will waste their wafer allocation on the least profitable silicon to put into consoles
>>739975005>He thinks it won't affect consoles>Which it already has, BEE TEE DUBLOVING EVERY LAUGH.
>>739978889i have whore fatigue
eat ze bugslive in ze podyou will own no video games and be happy
>>739978664Harry, you don't have to sell me on it. I already told that's a good thing.
>>739990676Sony co-develops their chips. They'll be fine.
>>739990646there is literally no reason to want to buy a digital console you've relinquished ALL control at that point and you have nothingonce physical dies you're entirely at the mercy of corporations with poor track records when it comes to letting you play games without making you rebuy them since you have zero control over the hardware itself
>>739970493>Gabe isn't going to save usHe unironically says before:>Valve is pushing for ARM as well.Yeah, no shit. Because they're trying to SAVE YOU, you moron.>Your games on x86 become "obsolete" with ARM being pushed>Valve does Proton (ARM's version)>Your x86 shit can be played (besides multiplayer, but who really gives a fuck about modern multiplayer?)You should be thanking Gay Ben for at least diversifying and trying to make sure you're covered (for the sake of his business) you moron.
>>739990753Do you think whatever meme you've conjured is going to change the fact that AMD will tell Sony to pay the fuck up to match the demand or refuses to renew their contracts?Consoles are literally just guaranteed profit when they can't get anyone else to pay for that silicon, they make zero sense when shit is scarce
>>739970493idk what will happen, but i wouldn't be surprised if games shrink in scope, there is only so many billions the shareholders(tm) are willing to tank. these guys operate on what to back to make ez money fast, and these flopping flop games are not making triple a gaming as a safe investment as it was
>people already move on from Deck shitpost>have to start making up some horseshit
>>739990753>Sony co-develops their chipsLike the current downsized AMD chips in their PS5s?
>Gaming is le dyingOnly for brownoids AKA /v/eddit
>>739990815>there is literally no reason to want to buy a digital consoleThere is if I don't want to keep carrying my physical media around>you've relinquished ALL control at that point and you have nothingIf I can play all my games offline indefinitely, then II clearly have control over it.>once physical dies you're entirely at the mercy of corporations with poor track records when it comes to letting you play games without making you rebuy them since you have zero control over the hardware itselfWe're already at that point with physical media, so what's the difference?
>>739974516>they continue to cry as generations of people would rather opt out rather than play this rigged gameLoleLmaoKek even
>>739990941And Sony will just tell them to go fuck themselves and start making their chips themselves if that were to happen, it won't given how deep their partnership is.>>739991072Yup
don't care, personally.
>>739970592>ayys and experimental technologies will stop the fall
>>739974791>glowies are gonna start pivoting towards gig based contracting because the alternative is starvation and techno serfdomGrim
>>739973410First off, Steam breaks a record every year. So PC gaming isnt dying. Second, if you look at total console sales it's stagnant as fuck. It's legit just movement from the same audience to other platforms
>>739991214> and start making their chips themselvesWhich would fail miserably It's easy to cope but in the end it's Sony that needs AMD, they're creatively bankrupt Do you know what the ps5 operating system is?Legally stolen code from a bunch of mentally ill open source devs that explicitly allow corporations to rape themThey don't make shit
>>739972201>You voted for thisAnd what was the alternative, exactly?
>>739991413Console sales are literally just millennials reaching their peak of expendable income
>>739972751No. They're not.
>>739991438God, you're coping hard over consoles, man.
>>739991558>it's not just XboxIt's literally JUST Xbox.
>>739991770>Reality is cope because it shows how weak consoles are
>>739986973snoy hopping on a bandwagon
>>739986973Because this generation of gaming crashed the industry. It seems like Samus was right, Power isn't Everything.
>>739991810It's not just xbox. Total console sales have been stagnant for a while now.
>>739991973It's just Xbox, if Xbox, as a console, was doing well, Microsoft would have no need to gut it into a mode for Windows 11 and call that their next gen platform.
>>739972387I think you're probably correct but the whining will be a huge downer. If you can ignore it then you'll be golden
>games are getting shitter and more expensive (and don't look any better than games a decade ago)>guy the hardware is killing gaming!
>>739992034retard
>>739992382Cope
>>739974374What do you think drives global shipping?
>>739974374luddites have been eagerly predicting the failure of western commercial agriculture for the past 80 years, as a form of karmic punishment for the time the russians killed all of their commercial farmers and then suffering from famine, or the time the chinese killed all of their commercial farmers and then suffered from famine, or the time the cambodians killed all of their and then suffered from famine. Surely THIS random desert war will be the final nail in the coffin of for-profit farming.
>>739988449If pc goes, consoles would go first. Consoles are entirely reliant on the same thing pc is, while being far less useful and lower profit for component manufacturers.
>>739989943Nintendo and Sony would adore cloud gaming if they could get away with it. That is a real direction they could go in if things get to expensive for the average consumer.
>>739992693PC will never go, PC gaming, on the other hand, that's a different story. Consoles are safe though.
>>739990212They are boiling you like frogs. The only reason Nintendo likes physical is for the physical presence in stores, not for any consumer friendly reason. They hate the second hand market and they hate you having any control. Key cards exist because it lets them have all the control and the physical presence. Their end goal will just be a slab of cardboard with a code on it so you can't resell it.
>>739992848>PC gaming, on the other hand, that's a different storyPC gaming will quite literally never die. >Consoles are safe though.Consoles have been stagnant in sales for a decade now with no real growth. Steam breaks a record every year.
>>739992916I buy all their games digitally anyway, who cares.
>>739992848>PC gaming, on the other hand, that's a different story. Consoles are safe though.It's so obvious you're still seething over the death of console exclusives
>>739992992>PC gaming will quite literally never die.It can if PC companies want to die.>Consoles have been stagnant in sales for a decade now with no real growth. Steam breaks a record every year.With the price hikes, console gaming will probably start growing between this and next year due to Switch 2 and PS6 handheld, and maybe the PS6 home console too.
>>739992848If PC doesn't go, PC gaming won't go.If PC goes, consoles would have already been dead for a while beforehand.
>>739993025But Nintendo has console exclusives and Sony is returning to console exclusives, what are you even trying to say here?
Nintendo's next system should be a computer. Like a Family Computer maybe?
>>739970493>Gabe isn't going to save usGabe is literally making an ARM compatibility layer.
>>739993068>If PC doesn't go, PC gaming won't go.PC will stay but it will be an arm and a leg to build one and buy prebuilt which will cost less than DIY PCs but still a lot.
>>739993115Nu-tendies won't get this.
>>739993115They should Switch it to a Family Computer, maybe a Super Family Computer.
>>739970493PC games have been "dying" since before half this board was born.
>>739993113That their games are flopping and they get all their stuff emulated anyway.
>>739993113>But Nintendo has console exclusives First party exclusives. So mario and pokemon. Cool.>and Sony is returning to console exclusivesLol anon, that's clickbait. They're not going to limit their consumerbase again, that wont make the line go up. Why do you think they gave up exclusives in the first place? You really are a naive kid
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/dlss-4-5-ray-reconstruction-1000-rtx-games-apps-out-now/OP IS A FAGGOT
>>739970493What exactly is the problem here? That you won't have a shiny new *current thing* to obsess over? The fuck do you even need the current latest hardware for? Most recent AAA shovelware?Current processing power is more than enough for everything unless you're an autist that simply needs to run his newest premium game on all-max settings on cinema resolution.
>>739991558Isn't switch 2 the fastest selling console ever or some nonsense?
>>739993192The Ultra 64 was suppose to be a successor to the Family Computer via DD. If the next Switch returns to being a proper handheld family computer then it might work.
The elites want to end video gaming as a whole so all the gamers have no choice but to slave away in the mines or die for Israel. They know the people are too weak and demoralized to revolt at this point.
>>739974568>gas prices increase by 50%-70%>therefore, food prices increase by 500%Can someone who is not a schizo explain?
>>739993128Yeah, I already said that:>>739990820But it bears repeating: Valve is the ONLY "PC Gaming company" that is actually trying to diversify and do shit in the PC gaming/hardware business.>Sees MS trying to pull an Apple>Moves into Linux and makes Linux better than it was 20 years ago for PC gaming and in general>Sees x86 being pushed aside for Broadcomm's ARM chips>Moves Linux compatibility layer into an x86 translation layer while seeing if VR can work on it better than x86Say what you want about Valve as a company (and rightly so in most cases), but their initiatives in software/hardware isn't the problem.
>>739993237But they're both basically killing emulation for the next gen consoles to the point that no one will be able to pirate their games.>>739993276>First party exclusives. So mario and pokemon. Cool.Exclusives are exclusives>Lol anon, that's clickbait. They're not going to limit their consumerbase again, that wont make the line go up. Why do you think they gave up exclusives in the first place? You really are a naive kidGiven that they're making a handheld their baseline for next gen and no longer giving out blank checks to their Western devs, I'm pretty sure that means they're going back to exclusives.
>>739993473Ship need gas to carry your corn
>>739991460Voting communist, unironically.Dems are controlled opposition. Republicans are fascist.It's time to become socialist/communist and fast. Government isn't going to save you, so better get to organizing in your community.
>>739970493I have 8 RAM. Gaming in sense of playing modern slop died to me long time ago. I don't care about upgrading the system. Old games i love run fine.
>>739970493>burgerkikes will do something anti-consumer, episode #546432424And?We both know chinks will happily make some non-ARM stuff that will be 90% less expensive and only 50% less powerful.>b-but muh chink hardware spywareCIA spyware will soon be designed by ai-vibing jeets, I can guarantee you will prefer having the spyware made by winnie.
>>739991810No it isn't. Switch 2 is cratering (and that was BEFORE the price-hike), PS5 is slow selling (because they don't have shit worth buying it for).The whole industry is in a downturn.
>>739993387Yes, but even then it wasn't enough to push console sales over.
>>739993498I don't live on an island.
>>739993519>implying winnie is going to stay in power for much longerYellow Turbans 2.0 in progress. The Mandate of Heaven has been challenged.
>>739970592>let it die. you're gonna have bigger problems when food quintuples in price soon. if you're lucky you'll be able to find someone to buy your pc just so you can afford a few more bags of potatoes.
>>739993491>Exclusives are exclusivesAnd first party exclusives are a minority. >I'm pretty sure that means they're going back to exclusives.So you're just coping. And nips love PC gaming too, all their big game studios release on PC. Including Playstation (lol)
>>739993502Kill all communists
>>739993491>But they're both basically killing emulation for the next gen consoles to the point that no one will be able to pirate their games.People say this every time. Consoles getting cracked is an inevitability.
>>739993634>And first party exclusives are a minority.Exclusives are exclusives>So you're just coping.>And nips love PC gaming too, all their big game studios release on PC. Including Playstation (lol)They're bringing back exclusives and Japanese are dropping PC gaming already. When the PS6 handheld release and through, software, brings back the Japanese PlayStation controls through regions, that will eclipse PC gaming in Japan.
>>739993763We'll see
>>739993565If they go by any other form of vehicle it would be even more expensive
>>739970493Kill bill gates and the kike army. Become a Luigi.
>>739993902>They're bringing back exclusives and Japanese are dropping PC gaming already.Im guessing this came to you in a dream? lmao.>The new console will totally kill PC gaming! This time for sure! They're serious about it now! Muh new handheld!Sure they will! Whatever helps you sleep at night, junior!
>>739976353>after those Forza numbers, Microsoft pencil pushers will be questioning why they should be going back to exclusivity on a dead platform.Kek, get a load of this guyImagine thinking the only thing suits are getting out of this isn't "surely all 6 million buyers of FH6 on Steam will feel compelled to buy an Xbox"
>>739970493Nigga you're conflating x64 with gaming.most games are x64 but only because x64 is the domminant architecture for PCsTransitioning to a ARM architecture, where chips are already abundant and GPUs are cheaper is actually a good thing>>739972387AAA are dying, games are not. Just look at silksong or other recent successful indie games>>739990102>>739988449the PC gaming market is still growing btw. And It's growing faster in places like China.It's easier to imagine the USA collapsing with its AI bubble and the Iran war than that. And personally I think It will be funny if PC gaming will outlives the American empire lmao
>>739993052>It can if PC companies want to die.How will that kill PC games that are already out?
>>739993902Japanese don't view Sony positively anon, nothing will help Sony's case they shot themselves on the foot already in the Japanese market. If your enemy is begging for you to please aid them, you don't you crush them. Sony is the enemy.
>>739994043>Im guessing this came to you in a dream? lmao.Cope>Sure they will! Whatever helps you sleep at night, junior!PC gaming prices are too high now.
>>739994146Are you underage?
>>739970592People will riot for food, without question, if it goes that way.
>>739994146>CopeWhat an elegant, well-researched rebuttal kek.When was the last time Bamco, Capcom, Sega or SE released a console exclusive?
>>739994135There will be some games on PlayStation 6, not on Switch 2.
>>73999305220 IQ post.
>>739994107It won't
>>739994293Are you? How the hell are you going to make that argument that PC gaming isn't expensive after that Steam Deck price hike. Shut the fuck up. Fucking rat face shill.
>>739993902>Japanese are dropping PC gaming alreadyThe japanese are throwing themselves onto pc. Living in denial of reality and performing endless mental gymnastics is not healthy.
>>739993902>Japanese are dropping PC gaming already.>https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steamright now the japanese language is 2.73% of the steam survey>https://web.archive.org/web/20181026091723/https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam>https://web.archive.org/web/20181123183359/https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steampicked 2 random months from 2018's surveythey're at 1.1%not only have they increased their steam share by 2.5x, steam has also grown massively in the past 8 years
>>739994715More importantly than their userbase, basically every dev except nintendo is putting all their games on steam.
>>739994495PC gaming is more expensive upfront, but you also get way more out of it, far cheaper (or free) games and don't have to pay twice for basic shit like online play or cloud saves. Consoles are far more expensive in the long run.
>>739994495>ignore the console price hike>steam decks are PC gamingWhy are consoletards such disingenuous vermin?
>>739994413Bamco is making Sony Japanese games, so chances are, those are going to start being exclusive to PlayStation consoles when the next one comes around.
>>739994495>How the hell are you going to make that argument that PC gaming isn't expensive after that Steam Deck price hike.What does the steam deck price hike have to to with anything? You really are just an angry child lashing out
>>739995043>didnt answer the question>th-the next game will totally be exclusive! I just know it!Lol. Go clean your angry tears, kid.
>>739994913>PC gaming is more expensive upfrontGuess what timeline we're in, you low IQ nigger?>>739994959>$450 Switch 2 and $600 PS5 Slim vs a $780 and $950 Steam DeckKill yourself, you worthless fat shill.
>>739995168The one where I'm right and you're seething.
>>739994518>>739994715https://automaton-media.com/en/news/japans-pc-gaming-population-has-decreased-by-3-million-in-the-past-decade-studies-show/Why are you two bozos lying?
>>739970493>and Valve is pushing for ARM as well.of course. you thought they had your interests in their heart and minds? kek.gabe needs another yacht
>>739995254>studies showfuck your faggot studies, steam survey is actual fucking data that rapes your pseud garbage
>>739984671>pc will get fucked and lose access to 99% of its contentAre you aware that x86 to ARM translation layers already exist and are surprisingly useable? Nothing will happen to PC libraries if it's forced to switch to ARM. Meanwhile, sony and nintendo will gladly use this as an excuse to avoid having backwards compatibility so they can resell the same games to you for full price.
>>739995057Valve was supposed to be for the people, I always knew that fat ass was from the long-nose tribe.
>>739995254Oh look, it's this misrepresented article again. How many times have you got btfo'd posting it, yet never learned your lesson?
>>739995284I'll take that Steam Survey and shove it up your ass.
>>739995168>Console price hike vs handheld price hike>THIS IS WHY PC GAMING IS TOO EXPENSIVE!!!Rope yourself, retard. Imagine being so desperate to try to push the Deck as PC gaming
>>739995334ok faggot, fuck your guesswork studies when we have actual first party data from steam
>>739995273>and Valve is pushing for ARM as wellThe only reason ARM is shit is because it's incompatible with loads of software. Valve making a compatibility layer solves that. They're the saviior in this situation, no matter how hard they make timmy and consolefags seethe their asses off.
>>739995454It's a fucking Linux PC in a shitty Linux Distro, it's a fucking PC whether you like it or not.
>>739970493Just let it die, who cares?
>>739995254>Why are you two bozos lying?>These figures are not mutually exclusive, as many users play on more than one platform.The article admits its numbers dont mean shit because console gsmers includes anyone with a Switch and mobile gamers includes all of them as everyone has a mobile. Fucking moron.
>>739995481>Valve is the saviorSo, when they dropping that Steam Deck price?
>>739995556Right. A fucking PC. Not THE fucking PC.See the disingenuous part of your narrative yet? Now go walk into traffic
We return to simpler times. Mankind never needed more than the humble MOS 6502 and perhaps the Zilog Z80.
>>739994495you utter fucking moron, handhelds are a fucking luxury and the steam deck pales in value to an actual desktopeven the fucking switch 2 loses to the worst value pc you can buy, see >>739988658if it's about the money you're building your pc, end of
>>739995625When consoles drop their prices, aka when components don't cost an arm and a leg.
I don't know about you but I can't remember the last time I played a truly demanding game because those are all AAA and those are almost all complete dogshit.
>>739995670What if I couldn't give a single solid shit about that? A PC is for work, and console is for play, you don't need all that power, you only need 1080p/60 FPS because your worthless eyes can't see past 60 frames. PC fucks optimization in the ass, has malware, and has shovelware trash on the level that nuked the US gaming industry back in the 80s. PC stop being relevant when the same full games with the full multiplayers started getting made for consoles. PC don't even have exclusives anymore, their worth the dirt on the ground today. Only people crying about PC in this shithole, are brown faggots from some worthless dirt or some yella monkey bug from Chinkland. Consoles dominate the USA here and Japan. I hope more bombs get dropped on your shitter countries until you're extinct.
civilians can't be trusted with computers, they are too powerful
>>739995998kill yourself JEFF
>>739995906>>739995670you guys are both moronsmobile has already killed consoles and pc
>>739995906Bait.
>>739995998Agree. The goyim are fortunate we even allow them to breathe air. They shouldn't complain.
>>739995906>What if I couldn't give a single solid shit about that?That doesnt change anything, you're still wrong and an utter fucking moron even if you close your ears and look away>the rest of that postConsoletard tears are delicious as always
>>739995906>best attempt of a phonenigger trying to not make an unreadable wall of text>A PC is for work, and console is for playa pc is for everything unless you're too low iq for it>you only need 1080p/60 FPS because your worthless eyes can't see past 60 frames. as an owner of a 500hz oled monitor that's cope, for me it's somewhere between 250 and 500 but closer to 250>PC fucks optimization in the ass,only the switch 2 because they had to try really hard to sell you the worst versions of multiplats that you have to be a retard to buy thereand they still upscale from 540p lmao> has malware, and has shovelware trash on the level that nuked the US gaming industry back in the 80s. MIDWIT ALERT! MIDWIT ALERT! MIDWIT ALERT!that's not going to happen in the age of the internet>PC stop being relevant when the same full games with the full multiplayers started getting made for consoles.consoles stop being relevant when they lose exclusives, there's no reason to want worse versions of games>PC don't even have exclusives anymore,exclusives mean you need to peddle shit hardware and you have to coerce people to do it by walling games behind it>are brown faggots from some worthless dirt or some yella monkey bug from Chinkland.brown faggots are the ones that are too stupid for computersconsoles are for the undesirables on the left side of the bell curve
>>739993902>Japanese are dropping PC gaming alreadyConsoletard cope is hilarious. The Japanese would rather either stick to the Switch or spend more on a PC than play on a PS5 or PS6 where it's basically a Basketball American containment.
>>739996045proton and fex are going to colonise the mobile wasteland so fucking hard
>>739978974The death toll for covid is between 30 - 50 million in total globally.
>>739970493>pc games cry about any game that has denuvo and refuse to buy it>pc gamers pirate any game that doesn't have denuvo and refuse to buy ityou faggots haven't paid for a game in over two decades and you still cry you can't afford current PC parts? literally what the fuck do you all spend your money on since it's clearly not your PC or games?
>>739994448Oh... :(
>>739970493>Guys PC gaming is doing to die! How do we save PC gaming?>10 hours later>>739995906>WAAAAAAAH PC IS FOR WORK CONSOLES WILL TOTALLY KILL PC GAMING THIS TIME GO AWAAAAAAAYYYYYY!!!!!And this is why I love browsing these threads. The mask always falls off at some point and it's always a seething consolecuck behind it.
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Is a 5800xd a substantial upgrade over a 5600x?I'm on am4 so just curious
>>739977293>gabe dies>son takes over>valve* stays private>they keep doing the same thing and stay winning
>>739996626https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d/
>>739996424>why are PC gamers broke bitches?>consoles bad!the highest IQ PC gamer on /v/
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>>739996695>why are PC gamers broke bitches?wrongtry again
>>739996147>best attempt of a phonenigger trying to not make an unreadable wall of text>cockroach thinks I'm phoneposting>a pc is for everything unless you're too low iq for itIt's work and nothing more>only the switch 2 because they had to try really hard to sell you the worst versions of multiplats that you have to be a retard to buy therePragmata plays as 60FPS on Switch 2, 40 on Steam Deck.>consoles stop being relevant when they lose exclusives, there's no reason to want worse versions of gamesAnd now Sony is returning to exclusives, so what does that make PC gaming?>exclusives mean you need to peddle shit hardware and you have to coerce people to do it by walling games behind itNow I'm really starting to wonder why your platform died.>brown faggots are the ones that are too stupid for computersComputers have become worthless for gaming, why do you think they're now trying to emulate consoles?>consoles are for the undesirables on the left side of the bell curveOnly PC fags are fat asses, many are trannies. So much for that master race.
>>739996738>he said in a literal thread literally crying about literal PC gamers literally not being able to afford parts
>>739996424God, I'm glad Jim Ryan finally fucked off.
>>739996626depends on the gameX3D goes hard in rust/tarkov and can fix stutters in other games
>>739996816Go take a shower and go to bed. Having meltdowns on the internet all day is no way to live.
>>739996857but this thread is about clueless and tech illiterate consoleniggers believing that consoles will survive despite being lower margin devices that only survive because their manufacturing was free money
>>739996816>It's work and nothing moreagain, you're retarded>Pragmata plays as 60FPS on Switch 2, 40 on Steam Deck.correction, 540p and it doesn't even hit 60fpshttps://youtu.be/BApI38LFK_4?t=351the deck does that without upscaling, native 800phttps://youtu.be/uL7fKFfgbyA>And now Sony is returning to exclusives, so what does that make PC gaming?victorious? sony literally can't afford that if they want to keep making moviegames for troons>Now I'm really starting to wonder why your platform died.almost as big as all the consoles combined but please, keep coping>Computers have become worthless for gaming, why do you think they're now trying to emulate consoles?they're so good that you literally need anticonsumer practices like exclusives to not want to play thereor just being retarded>Only PC fags are fat asses, many are trannies. So much for that master race.iq and obesity are negatively correlatedconsoles explicitly market themselves to low iq retards
>>739973772Are you stupid? They're both puppets of the same people. If you think voting different actually woulda made a difference you're a legit retard.
>>739996947here let me spell it out so you can understand 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01100001 01110010 01100101 00100000 01100001 00100000 01100110 01100001 01100111 01100111 01101111 01110100 enjoy your dead thread poor nigger
>>739970493The gov is in bed with the supreme domino leader and the Chinese and the Chinese run the tech industry and they are having orgies.It has never been so over than ever.The world truly ended in 2012 but it was dying long before that.
>>739996816>Pragmata plays as 60FPS on Switch 2, 40 on Steam Deck.S2 pragmata is 360p upscaled with inconsistent fps, poor lighting and things like diana's hair look like shit. The deck runs it native and if you add lossless it run even better. The only game the S2 beats the deck with is outlaws due to forced raytracing on pc.
>>739997179imagine making a post where you just announce you're mad and nothing else
>>739997070>if they want to keep making moviegames for troonsGuess which part they plan to axed because it's costing too much, anon?
>>739974650Unfortunately he was better then the opposition which is really all you need to be. Hopefully the next guy will do a better job. Imagine how low everyone's taxes could be if they just got rid of the fucking debt.
>>739988336I was a waitfag, so instead of upgrading I waited and not due to the prices I will keep waiting and who knows when the new hardware drops in 2027 I might keep waiting some more.
>>739993613You know chicken little was right about the sky falling
>>739970493Do you have any idea how much of a shit storm it will be to phase out x86 from the commercial business industry? You ever played sims. Do you fucking understand the levels of infrastructure even in Industrial machines that are aged by 50 years now still in use?Tech will always be priced and designed to fit a purpose. The fact is the tech has reached a technological plateau. All these features developers are not using them for on a proficient level. The make believe dream that AI will fix this is abysmally hilarious. If someone does crack it it will be packaged securely and charged a very expensive monthly service.
>>739996705This is great. A generation of groomable idiots makes me feel good about future aspirations of being a cult sex leader.
>>739979287No it isn't. The "games" are chores to get pngs. The only good things that come out of gauchas are good soundtracks, characters and the endless amount of fanworks (most important part)
>>739993565You are retarded
>>739978889Incel boardIncel world
>>739970493I don't understand, even if you believe that NVIDIA is going full ARM on every platform, it does not mean that you'll be forced to use pre-builts, you'll just a SoC that has CPU, GPU and unified memory on it in one package, and put it into your motherboard. Or perhaps the motherboard will come with a SoC soldered in. But you'll still be building your PC.
>>739996659>son takes overExcept the son in question doesn't give a shit and doesn't want to have anything to do with valve. He wants to become a racecar driver or something instead.Valve has no successors primed at all, so unless Gabe parachutes some random in sometime soon it's over the moment he kicks the bucket.
>>739978650>>739978974The price of food has at least doubled in the last 5 years
>>739999507Gay Ben must have told you this personally as he was plapping your ass.
>>739970493We do nothingConsole manufacturers are constantly saving PC gaming by fucking up massively with their consoles.PC and Valve win without doing anythang
>>739999962Ok then don't believe it then. I don't give it shit if you don't because I won't be left holding the bag like you will.
>>739992632You're an idiot, kek.
>>739978650Nobody said anything about starvation, retard. He said things are going to cost more. Your example of the Ukraine considering things did get pricey partly because of it.
>>739995481>The only reason ARM is shit is because it's incompatible with loads of softwareHaving locked bootloaders and not being modular are much bigger issues.
>>739970493Peecee gayming is DEAD!
>>739970592The West has fallen
>>739988745>this nigga rides the bus
For those of you still hesitant about getting a PC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4jr1I17Gxs
>>739970493false alarm. based on what they've shown, that thing will be super expensive, definitely over $5000, and intended for professionals in mega corporations. ARM makes sense for lightweight laptops and handheld devices and extremely long battery life, but x86 will always be a superior option for tradional PC setup.
>>739996705you'd have menu anxiety too when any restaraunt you go ends up costing you 40€ for a meal that was dry and cold
>>740005338Shouldn't be going to restaurants that take squiggles for currency.
Imagine the reaction of this board if Indians and the Chinese get into the consumer hardware business, start making actual decent products at affordable prices and saves PC gaming.
>>740005453>Indians and Chinese>doing anything properlyPick one.
>>740005432like you know any better
>>740005453>Indianslmao>ChineseActual possibility and everyone owns chink products anyways.
>>739970493ARM is in fact the perfect future of videogames.Affordable mobile chips that can easily run up to PS3.Cheap hardware, no more bloated dev budgets.
>>740005528We use dollars in the real world and have good food.
So.....can I use this to mine shit?
>>739974374Don't mind him. Eurotards have to panic about literally everything because they are powerless.
>>739975207Birth rates are not, even a little bit, a problem. chr*stfaggots feeding niggers and latinxes is the entire problem
>>740005656ofc you can
>>739993473Fertiliser also came via the Strait of Hormuz.Other fertiliser used to come from Ukraine.
>>739996269Capcom gets 50% of their revenue from PC retard.
