>Game about a group of international mercenaries with diverse backgrounds and jobs>Super sensitive and cares about proper cultural representation>Voiced by voice actors with immigrant backgrounds from the respective country(Scotland, Germany, Egypt, China etc.)>Somehow feels way less diverse than a game about 9 mercenaries aged 20 to 50 all with European(Overwhelmingly Anglo) backgrounds voiced by Americans faking a terrible accentWhy is this?
>>739985081The desperate need to seem authentic vs not giving a shit. Its that simple.
>>739985081The problem is that their personalities are extremely superficial. They don’t interact with each other much, apart from bland exposition in the spawn room.The domination and revenge voice lines in TF2 serve no purpose from a gameplay point of view but they’re a goldmine of hilarious quotes and insults. Blizzard wouldn’t dare have their characters insulting each other other based on national stereotypes or their appearance because that’s problematic, ableist, etc
>Scottish character with Scottish facial features, voiced by a voice actor from Glasgow>Somehow feels less Scottish than a black Scotsman voiced by a WASP American
>>739986235Holy fuck he is ugly!
>>739986235Doesn't help that he looks like he's designed by a fag who's into bears. I'd literally rather play an overwatch clone based on the burger kings kids' club.
>>739986558Looks like your university atudent in Glasgow
>>739985081>Diversity checklist of totally cool and serious characters and lore that they will never do anything with (to my knowledge)>Cast of "wouldn't this character be funny lol" that then had a good comicI guess the latter just feels more authentic. Although OW at least has pretty girls.
>>739985081You can tell Overwatch is doing well because TF2 and Marvel Rivals fans can't shut up about it
I actually like Doomfist, Hazard, Pharah, Tracer and Genji's voice acting, they sound ethnic without being too over the top
>>739990271>OW>Doing well
I recently gave OW2 a try and...>cant tell who is shooting me like half the time because there are like 10 different women who all look the same that have legendary skins that make it even harder to tell who it is>shoot them back>they dash/teleport/jump away>that was actually their healer but for some reason their whole kit is built like they are some hyper mobile tracer type DPS character
>>739994334Kiriko? Yeah she is one of those characters that never gets nerfed because her skins sell like hot shit
>>739985081Stop posting pictures of my wifey.
>>739985081Valve always insisted on hiring American VAs and making them do horribly inaccurate accents, for how much they put into voice acting I have no idea how they do it.If you think Demo sounds retarded, boot up Dota and play Luna and Dark Willow, now these are some BAD Celtic accents. Somehow Kerillian sounds more authentic.Deadlock is the same. They told Matt Mercer to do a Cajun accent and somehow he sounds fine.
>>739985081I loved overwatch so much at launch and every single update made it worse. Why the fuck did they even add new characters? I thought it was going to be like TF2, especially when they heavily promoted being able to pick as many characters as you wanted. Like seriously, how the fuck are they so bad at designing the game when it was so damn good at launch? Hell, beta actually was the best
>>739996121All their good people left after the dev team was forced to go riding the e-sports hype train which crashed and burned.
>>739995941The lion does not concern himself with the opinion of ESL's
>>739996168And half of the team that made original great got kicked out once the breast milk scandal broke out.
>>739994893kek they really had to make a nip woman the game's mascot to sell more skins to paypiggies
>>739985081Its almost like good diversity isn't based on race
>>739996580What is good diversity based on?
>>739996651NTA but in this circumstance I'd say life experiences. Everyone in overwatch is just like a generic comic book character when it comes to their backgrounds they all sort of blend together.
>>739994334One of the reasons OW1 started going to shit because esports pretty much required every character to have a high mobility ability both to counter instant kills / and map design. I don't know how it is today but even back then it became obvious characters will become less and less unique when all must have one button which is a variation of a get out of jail card. The only difference is how much they move, how fast and what direction.
>>739996414>womanD.va was far more popular than any of the OW1 girls. Mercy was close but mostly just in porn and because most real girls played her. It only made sense Blizzard spearheaded OW2 with another kawaii definetly not underage stereotype. I'm not complaining, just stating the facts. There is also that "alien" underage Juno girl they dropped halfway during OW2 who seem to be very similar type.I wonder how the game is actually doing when now they try to pander to various non straight degenerates too with the new characters.
So why'd they nerf Widowmaker so she can't one tap support characters?
>>739997176>girls*Foids and tranniesAlso Kiriko should've veen 30+
>>739985081>Voiced by voice actors with immigrant backgrounds from the respective countrySo why do all the characters speak english but blurt out token catchphrases in their native langauge?Kiriko blurting out shit in her american california accent grates on my ears so much. To me, it is cowardice that you don't trust your playerbase enough to be interested in something unless everyone is speaking english. What is this western obsession that they think everyone needs to hear the most generic "Lets capture the point dudes :D" voiceline callouts in games like this? It adds nothing
>>739986235>bongland>crooked teethheh
>>739994334I say this as someone that played OW1 from launch and gave it a few years before boredom set in but I still dip my toe in every now and then:1. Not knowing who is shooting you and who is who is a skill issue. Skins dont mean anything, the characters still have very recogniseable silhouettes, vfx and sfx. Even if Dva, Anran and Kiriko are all generic looking tiny asian girls with dark hair its always immediately obvious who you're fighting once you've learnt the game.2. The supports in OW are incredibly overtuned, easily the strongest "Class" of hero, this is two fold:To support the ridiculously large support main playerbase that cant aim and just want to hold the heal button and not die, and to convince people to play support more to help queue times
>>739997250>Every hero says their ultimates in their native language Absolutely fucking annoying when you're trying to discern what ultimate it is
>>739985081>>739986235>WhyProbably because you're a biased and mindbroken TF2fag, just move on y'all
>>739997359the point of ult being in different language/different quote is to tell if it's a hero on your team or on the enemy team ulting
>>739997359You just come to learn the specific voice and babble for each ult as well as you learn the sound of every gun anyway
>>739997250I can't speak for every one of them but iirc Genji's VA speaks Japanese with a slight American accent, Reinhardt's VA is only half German, Kiriko's VA is a VA in Japan but grew up in California and so on
>>739996168>>739996228I was gonna say, it sure seemed like everyone that made Overwatch so damn good at launch just left. The very idea that they felt it ok to add new characters multiple times a year to a game that once advertised itself on being so balanced you could stack champions made no sense
>>739997250>>739998020The solution is to raze california
>>739998069I heard Hanzo, D.Va, Anran and Wu Yang all speak their "native" languages with a strong Asian American accent which is why they are all voiced by someone else in the lical dubs but can't confirmZarya's English sounds like the typical fake Eastern European Russians complain about all the time(On the contrary I saw them praise Visor from Quake Champions for sounding like one)
>Zarya's VA is BVLLgarianKek
>>739998307I think Russian accents for voice overs get treated with significantly less respect than other accents do because the devs dont want to be appear to be racist or marginalising.Do a cheesy fake chinese or mexican - Accused of old school racismDo a cheesy fake russian accent - nobody cares because americans generally arent fan of russians
>>739990425Genji's is actually japanese tho.
>>739997192Because everyone hated that. There was no counterplay to it at all.
>>739997332Hate mercy most of all. Why does the literal 'hold m1 to play' character also get all that movement?
Are Overwatch's EN VA's good at YOUR native language? Wdyt?
https://youtube.com/shorts/1cSQcQTfmCkI don't play Valorant but this VA is pretty cool
>>739985081Because you lack objectivity.
>>739997250>To me, it is cowardice that you don't trust your playerbase enough to be interested in something unless everyone is speaking english.Worse, it's by design. It's multi'cultural' not multinational, they don't actually want people who do things differently. Those might disagree on things of importance. They want people who have more to lose through their attachment to a historical legacy. Easier to bully that way.
>>739999384Troons and foids
>>739985081>Overwatch is kind of based for sending all lesbians at the frontline to be shot
>>740000639They also have a literal flying ape...and Winston
>>740000716>literal flying apeIm still mad they pussied out and went with a generic soulless "Togetha we mustah unite de Wakandan piipo" VA instead of Terry Crews
>>739997176>D.va was far more popular than any of the OW1 girls.Which shows the pleb taste of the masses, as she gets mogged by most girls in the game
>>740001763I like him, he sounds like an actual Subsaharan African(Nigerian?) instead of a Black American with an identity crisis
>>739985081Because they made characters first instead of hitting diversity points first.
>>739986853he literally is lmfaosame guy also designed mauga, who is blatant fagbait
>>739985081>TF2 is the real diverse gamelol shut up retard
>>740003391TF2 is more diverse. Every cast member has a different mental disorder.
>>739985081Did it better
Junker queen is my favorite tank character in any shooter ever. I fucking love her knife
>>739986235He speaks like Shrek so he's okay
>>739994334It is literally skill issue.... sometimes team>>739994893She doesn't need nerf. 2 McCree and Ashe headshots can kill her. She's around as good as the other healers. The only unique "healer" is Mercy because she's closer to a traditional Medic (doesn't do much dmg).
Overwatch should be more compared to Street Fighter than Team Fortress in terms of character design. It's just that going all out on stereotypes just make for more fun character and occasionally doing a outlier like Blanka.Also the women in Overwatch are hot but male characters are all fucking boring with the exception of the japanese and australians.
>>740004341>Joker from TEMU>Interesting
Bumps
>>739985081TF2 has diverse personalities which matter far more. There's a reason the Meet the Team videos are so well loved.
>>739993859Compared to years prior? yesIt used to be a laughing stock for averaging only 1/3 of TF2s playerbase when it launched on steam
>>740008278I'm probably the only person that plays Goonerwatch on Steam
>>739986235Why is every character from overwatch 2 a weird cyborg with pointless markings. I get the feeling this design is supposed to be tough and punk but he just looks oblong and gross
>>740008278You do realize pretty much everyone played it via the battlenet launcher?
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>>739985081There's a cabal of career Voice Actors who muscle everyone out of the market.It's funny because whenever the Hollywood guys show up, they completely BTFO the career VAs
Because it feels more like a "crossover" than "a group of people that are canonically working together". Lore-wise, not every playable character is actually an overwatch member. Some of them are part of Talon, some of them are independent "adventurers".
>>739985081Because the TF mercs are based and racist as fuck and that makes complete sense
>>739985081>proper representation>canadian rep is a nigger
>>740010563>whenever the Hollywood guys show up, they completely BTFO the career VAsIt's true, Moira is maybe the only character in OW who sounds like a believable person.
>>740010563I find it pretty funny that they had big and expensive VA Jennifer Hale do cat noises for that cat hero they released recently
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>>740013459To be fair she also voices Ashe, so they probably just had her spend an hour or two making cat noises while they already had her in to record voicelines for Ashe.
