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Why does it feel so fucking stiff and shitty to play? It feels pisspoor even compared to NES or GBA games, let alone something like Silksong.
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""""NES and GBA""" inspired game for people who hate NES and GBA games
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>>739988684
Mina the Hollower
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>>739988684
It wants to do too much while being limited to the gbc 2d aesthetics
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>>739988964
The game doesn't respect its GBA influences at all
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>>739988684
We don’t call it Midna the Floppener for nothing. How this got a 93 on metacritic is beyond me. Probably because they’re based in LA and know everyone in the games journo business
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>slow as fuck movement speed
>clunky as fuck burrowing
>horrible readability and garish visuals
>can't attack diagonally
>your turn, my turn combat faggotry
>estus system but even worse
>bloodstain system but even worse
>fucking Zelda 2 leveling system
throw it in the fucking garbage, glad I only pirated this shit
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>>739988684
>he still keeps going
You made like 5 threads comparing this game to Bloodborne, and none of them got any replies, so now you're switching tactics?
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>>739988684
>yet another mina whine thread
Who the fuck keeps spamming these?
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>>739988684
Uh-oh, Silksong melty~
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>>739988684
I don't think you had to make a new thread for this. Check the catalog next time, friend.
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>>739989116
An unironic schizophrenic obsessed with BLM. He's been doing this for days, non-stop.
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>>739989047
Journalists give these ridiculously inflated scores to high profile Soulslikes because if they don’t they’ll get attacked by people that think they weren’t good enough at it. No way in fucking hell does this game deserve a 93
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I don't understand the complaints about burrowing or anything else being particularly clunky. I haven't felt that at all, and I am halfway through the game. It feels very fluid for me to burrow, pop out, whack someone with my charge hammer, then burrow again and loop around. Never had any issue with anything feeling clunky at all, the gameplay feels pretty good to me.
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>>739989161
>Soulslike
It isn't.
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it just wants to be 2d dark souls so everything has weird delays and wind ups
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Enemies can move and attack diagonally while you get cucked with 4 directions movement, that's the main issue with combat and what brings this game down.
Pair the unfair movement with weapons that can take half hour to wind up an attack and you end up with people that picked the mace getting absolutely cucked and feeling miserable
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>>739989135
Damn. Now I know why there is so much hate for this game on this board. Fucking Silksong trannies are pathetic.
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>>739989135
This has to go down in history as one of the most overrated games in history. I'm not even saying the game is terrible but the highest MC score in the past two years is fucking INSANE for this shit.

I genuinely think critics just give scores based on what they think people will think, instead of their own opinions. They thought the game was clunky bullshit that is artificially difficult but they thought gaymers love hard games and love souls shit, and the journos didn't want to be called out yet again for their lack of skill, so they just showered it in 10s.
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>>739989143
Does it make you feel better if you can explain this as “just one crazy guy”? I’m enjoying Mina but I do want Yacht Club out of business for funneling money to criminals, sue me
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>>739989135
It's better than silksong but silksong was vastly inferior to hollow knight
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>ANOTHER seethe thread
reminder a cartoon mouse is living rent-free in this man's head
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>>739989143
>Enemies can move and attack diagonally while you get cucked with 4 directions movement
So don't approach them diagonally? Burrow around, silly.
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>>739989247
Well, I don't have to explain much when this is what I've been seeing since it released. You're unironically ill, take your meds.
>>739989153
>>739989080
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/-bTjJVp0KCLYwiqyDvpeOA/
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Holy shit, the pseudo-intellectual criticism surrounding this game on /v/ has got to be some of the worst I've seen for a notable release

>>739988964
>It wants to do too much while being limited to the gbc 2d aesthetics
There's no severe limitations about 2D design, especially for a game of this design.

>>739988996
>The game doesn't respect its GBA influences at all
It's just pixel art, you retard. There's nothing specifically "GBA" inspired about it, and it has long existed before you were even born.
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>>739989327
This. Every 2D Zelda in history has had diagonal enemy attacks. Ganon could attack you diagonally, Gleeok's heads didn't conform to a grid. The same goes for almost every boss in the Oracle games or Link's Awakening. This complaint exposes every single person who makes it as a retard who literally hasn't played the inspiration for this game but is pretending to be a fan.
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>>739988684
It not inspired by a NES or GBA game, it inspired by a GB or GBC games. GB game were notoriously stiff and sluggish compared to NES counterpart games. Go play mario bothers vs mario land or zelda 1 vs link's awakening or go play metroid vs metroid 2. Why do you think there are so many remakes of Samus Returns on the GB? Because it's a cool story that's canon but it plays like shit.
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>trannies defending champagne socialists who literally call themselves a yacht club
hehehe
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>>739989434
Every 2D Zelda also has diagonal attacks except Zelda 1 you fucking retarded mong. And Zelda 1 feels way better to play than this piece of shit.
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>>739989541
Is that the only 2D Zelda you like?
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Never have to wonder if a Mina thread is up, the chuddies got us covered
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>>739989610
Every 2D Zelda looks, sounds, and plays miles better than this turd.
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>>739989448
Link's Awakening plays like a console Zelda game.
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>Expect furfag Links Awakening DX
>Get isometric rollslop
I was quite shocked
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>>739989541
LTTP doesn't have diagonal attacks, faggot secondary.
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>>739989718
Holy shit you are a retarded nigger. YOUR SWORD HAS A FUCKING ARC
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>>739988996
That's because it's GBC, not GBA, dumbass.
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>>739989649
well until next week when no one will remember this game existed outside of a "oh yeah that happened" thread
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>>739989718
It's been like 25 years since I played it but isn't the basic sword attack an arc that covers three horizontal squares in front of link?
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>>739989737
I picked the hammer and it also has a hitbox that can hit diagonally and vertically. Where is the issue?
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>>739989718
In ALTTP Link's sword has an arc, attacking an enemy doesn't push you back, and attacking doesn't lock you in place for half a second.

ALTTP combat is miles better than Mina.
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Didn’t buy Mina.
Didn’t buy 007.
Didn’t buy Marathon.
Anything else?
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>>739989776
>>739989782
hammer does this in Mina, pick better weapons
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>>739989448
>Comparing a GBC-inspired game Mario Bros or Metroid 2, two of the earliest GB games
Very disingenuous. Anyway, Mario and Metroid 2 play like shit. Link's Awakening and the Oracle games are smooth and play great, you're wrong. Link's Awakening is probably a better game than Zelda 1.
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>>739989782
>attacking an enemy doesn't push you back
Fuck you talking about? Plenty of enemies knocked you back.
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>>739989832
>You're presented with a weapon in the first three minutes of the game with no context as to how this shit actually plays
>hurrr durrr you should have known
They should at least offer a training room with enemies before you pick a weapon
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>>739989135
>silkniggers will now cry about mina
first E33 and now this, truly the most pathetic creatures
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>>739989774
nah, you'll still be making regular seethe threads I'm sure. what else do you have to do? KEK
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>>739989429
>There's no severe limitations about 2D design, especially for a game of this design.

Not including an entire Z axis to play with if you went 3D, the top down perspective is more conducive to an explorative game like Link's Awakening, and trying to focus on trial and error combat misses the entire point of what made it engaging. The best parts of Mina have nothing to do with the actual combat which it tries to laud as deep and engaging but ends up frustrating from lack of precision because of the top down 2D limitations.

>It's just pixel art, you retard.
It's obviously going for Link's Awakening, you don't have to be obstinate about it. And that top down presentation does not lend itself to mechanics that demand precise platforming and reflexive combat.

At least some anons here are trying to think, unlike you.
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>>739989782
Disingenuous post, attacking enemies in Mina doesn't push you back either unless you use the dagger. No other weapon does this.
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>>739989821
What do 007 and Marathon have to do with anything?
You already don't buy most games that come out.
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>>739989893
you wish sean
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They should rename this shit Mina the Bankrupter.
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>>739989782
Mina the Hollower is a Zelda influenced game for people who will never touch ALTTP because ALTTP is outdated and not a Soulslike
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>>739990029
Mina is also not a Soulslike.
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>>739990086
>bonfires but even worse
>estus flask but even worse
>bloodstains but even worse
yes, it is. Throw it in the fucking garbage.
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>>739989706
Sorry unc that's not what's in these days. Nobody has played that ancient unplayable uncslop bruh.
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Cool game. I'll probably buy it when they go out of business and I can pick it up for $2-3.
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>>739990086
literally everything from how the combat plays, the enemies behave, to the blatant mechanic rips and structure of the game are from dark souls. its just topdown and 2d. what do you get by lying to yourself
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>>739990170
it's on gog-games.to for free since it's on gog. It has direct download and it's only 800mb, then you can just manually add it to steam and/or GOG and it's like you actually bought it except the BLM loving devs get no money
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WHEN I SAY BLACK LIVES YOU SAY MATTER
>BLACK LIVES
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>>739989143
>He's been doing this for days, non-stop.
Almost a year actually, although he definitely ramped it up after the game came out
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>>739990176
>How the combat plays
>How the enemies behave
>Structure of the game
Elaborate in detail.
>>739990119
>Checkpoints and healing items
Not Souls mechanics
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>>739989748
Somehow idiots forget that the GBC exists. Link's Awakening and the Oracle duo are direct inspirations and it shows. Works for me, cause the Oracle games are my favorite Zelda games.
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Where is the thread to talk about the fucking game
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>>739989838
>Link's Awakening is probably a better game than Zelda 1.
It's 6 years newer and make in parallel with LttP so yes it play "better" than then the original at least in some ways but all of the GC titles have a slower sword attack speed and menuing that I assume came down to hardware limitations but between that and the screen sizes it gaves the games a claustrophobic feel that only exists on the gb and makes gb games feel dated in a way that nes games aren't.
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>>739990176
Soulslikes are 3D action RPGs with restrictive stamina systems and key-based map progression. Mina isn't a Soulslike.
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>>739988684
Don't care about the BLM shit retards here are bringing up, tried the game and it's trash
Can't account for taste
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>>739990270
Ew, BLM? Really??

You know what, I don't even want to pirate it now. Fuck those guys.
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>>739990367
On Reddit, where you should go.
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why is this game causing such extreme seething?
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>>739990563
Troons are melting down because chuds won AGAIN. They won, oh how they fucking WON!
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>>739989182
>modifiers enabled: infinite burrow, take it easy
you're not fooling anyone journalist shitter
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It's just so boring. You move so slow, upgrades take forever, combat isn't fun, the visual style is really hard to read (especially elevation looks terrible), music is grating. If Zelda is a 9/10, this is like a 4
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you fucking retards are so insufferable and such immense snowflakes about this game. i hate all of you and wish ill upon your heads
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>>739989930
>What do 007 and Marathon have to do with anything?
they are darling to journos because the studios have political agendas on social media, they have to manufacture hype
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This game makes me sad :(
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>>739989935
it's time to stop seething
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>>739990952
SAAR!
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>>739990727
>t. shitter who never found the Iron Lung trinket that doubles burrow time
colossal skill issue
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>>739989241
>genuinely think critics just give scores based on what they think people will think, instead of their own opinions. They thought the game was clunky bullshit that is artificially difficult but they thought gaymers love hard games and love souls shit, and the journos didn't want to be called out yet again for their lack of skill, so they just showered it in 10s.
They want the sheep to keep reading their reviews and info for clicks which means money. It's already obvious that they're pandering to the people that like it, oh maybe adding a few flaws to make the review not a complete cocksucking, but still.
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They could have had a successful game, could have had a profitable business. But fate had other plans for them.
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>>739989161
>>739989047
I've played every notable major release this year (minus 007), and this is easily the best so far.
Surely you got 20 bucks to try it yourself before judging?
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>>739991051
boring retard response by a peabrained parrot loser without a single original thought in his head
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FUCK CROW TOWN
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>>739989241
>This has to go down in history as one of the most overrated games in history

That'd be RE9 this year.
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>>739991436
SAAR!
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>>739991431
you think the dip shit losers that engage in hate campaign threads actually play games? these fags couldn't game their way out of a paper bag
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Does the game have a demo? I like top-down 2D Zeldas but don't care for Dark Souls.
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>not even in the top 100 on steam

You're 93% game, sir.
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>>739989080
trash ass souls combat with a link moveset. extremely unfun.
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>>739991514
Don't care.
Chuds: owned
Police: defunded
Trans rights: valid
Black rights: matter
Shops: looted
Cities: rebuilt, Zach
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>>739990972
>Journos
But Mina's getting good reviews from both journos and players.
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>>739991636
Business: Out of
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>>739991636
Kamala status?
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>>739991587
>Souls combat
Nothing about the combat is like Dark Souls. There isn't even a stamina meter.
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>>739991660
Drunk
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I have seen dozens of threads and literally not one webm of gameplay.
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>>739991587
>Souls combat with a link moveset
That's every Zelda game
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>>739991692
the zoomer trash that infests this place has no frame of reference for action gameplay aside from souls and lacks the critical faculties to assess anything outside of the soulslike spectrum.
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>>739991692
You attack enemies and move to not get hit by them therefore it's dark souls combat dumbass.
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>>739990390
>sure it's 99% like a souls game b-b-but there's no stamina bar!
how pathetic lmao.

It does have key-based map progression btw (along with shortcuts you open up every couple minutes!). Maybe play the game sometime.
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Sure the devs directly cited Dark Souls as a major inspiration for Shovel Knight to the point it was mentioned multiple times on the Kicstarter page, and then made a game even more directly aping Dark Souls on nearly every level, but that doesn't mean it's a soulslike! Why? Because, uh, people are sick of Dark Souls so it's kinda bad for marketing to say it....
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Not buying Mina.
Not buying 007.
Not buying Marathon.
Not buying Crimson Desert
Not buying Mewgenics
Simple as.
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>>739988684
something feels stiff alright
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>>739991829
Based. This guy FUCKS.
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>>739991829
You don't play any video games.
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>>739991725
souls is a subset of zelda
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>In an alternate timeline: Yacht Club didn't donate to BLM and the game popped off, selling half a million in a day.
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>>739991860
all that nigga plays is youtube
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>>739991829
Dangerously based /v/ gamer.
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>constantly gated by keys to progress
>bought a key and wasted it in the town just to get up to a balcony and talk to three NPCs who have nothing to say but flavor text
>now have to cough up 500 bones for another key from the shop just to proceed
I fucking hate this game dude
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>>739988684
The movement is smooth, flexible and fun to get good at
The combat is just precise, it's kinda like how Monster Hunter used to be good but is shit now because they made it less "stiff"
Being locked to 4 directions means you actually have to get good to be precise with your attacks instead of just mashing mindlessly
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>>739991829
Mewgenics is good though.
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Notice how none of the dickless fags bitching about blm are saying nigger. Nothing about tnd or nlm. This is because they are themselves broccoli-headed half-niggers who were 12 during gamergate and internalized all of this shit like an edgy escapist fantasy.
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>>739991845
She would go better with a sexy gothic knight armor.
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>>739991885
Politics aside, the game is all over the place.
>dark souls difficulty and combat rollslop for a cute 2D Zelda game
>designed for a GBC when everyone is playing on a wider screen, even a Switch can be cinsidered widescreen
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>>739991815
it's an NES Zelda 1 like and zoomies like you are filtered hard by it
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>>739991587
Niggers : blasted
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>>739992068
Zelda 1 plays a million times better.
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thread if you're actually playing over here:
>>739992051
>>739992051
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>>739992079
speaking of which it currently has less players than Marathon, so I guess this is a bigger flop?
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>>739992012
lol you havent played the game
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>>739992117
i lit 4/6 of the things so far
just did the mirror one
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>>739992068
i forgot about all the shortcuts, souls currency you lose upon death, rechargeable health vials you respawn with, enemies that go through multiple attack cycles forcing you to wait around and slowly stab at them once in a while like you're taking turns, and high damage enemies that were in zelda 1. you're right.
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>>739992068
I just beat Zelda 1 last year on original hardware (MiSTer FPGA), it mogs the shit out of this game
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>>739992068
algorithm opinion
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>>739992038
I love it when cute animal designs are juxtaposed with horror, violence, and high difficulty.
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>>739992204
zelda 1 mogs OoT
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>>739992109
Both are in dire straits.
>Marathon needs 6 million sales to break even, at 1.5 million, and needs more after to make money
>Mina needs at least 220k sales to break even, Yacht wants 1 million sales because they wasted their Hollow Knight money
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Mina haaaa
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>>739992194
>shortcuts
zelda 1
>souls currency
zelda 1
>recharganle health vials
zelda 1
>multiple attack cycles
zelda 1
>high damage enemies
zelda 1
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>>739991829
Mewgenics is top tier kino though
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>>739991692
you're a disingenuous npc.
no blocking, rollslop(digslop)
turn based, there is no damage trading. you're a passive bitch, taking animation cancels but not dealing them. wait for your turn.
subpar movement, normal enemies are superior to you. nu-souls design. since bloodborne the player character is outpaced.
bonfires
corpse run


it doesn't take stamina or an actual roll animation to be a soulslike.
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>>739992261
What the fuck did they do with all that Hollow Knight money? That game must have sold over 10million.
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>>739988684
>>739988879
>>739988996
It's in the style of a Game Boy Color game.
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>>739992292
how is it souls currency if its zelda 1

that just means souls copies zelda
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>>739991648
so is marathon
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>get hit by enemy and get knocked back
>go flying
>hit enemy with dagger the same time they hit me and get knocked back (again)
>go flying even further
>fly into pit and take additional damage
>respawn on the complete other side of the screen
fuck this stupid nigger game. Also the visuals/depth perception are goddamn awful
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>>739988684
The game controlled good for me when I played the demo. Try getting good.
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>yet another game that lazily copies Souls
>literally every single thing it copies from Souls is poorly implemented and an abject detriment to the game
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>>739992314
>bought an expensive office
>milked the Shovel Knight brand for 10 years without a sequel
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>from the creators of Shovel Knight
>soulslike
>i-it's not a soulslike this time I swear
>"inspired by-"
yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikesssssssssssssss
nokthxbie I'm no good
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>>739992515
It took them 10 years to fulfill their Kickstarter promises.
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>>739989182
It's because the game is difficult. This means that fags on /v/ will seethe and call it "clunky" when it's genuinely just them being bad at video games.
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>>739992313
>It doesn't take stamina or an actual roll animation to be a soulslike.
You're right, it also has to be 3D
>Bonfires
Checkpoints? Yeah, lots of games have those.
>Corpse runs
You mean collecting shit after you die? Is World of Warcraft a Soulslike?
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How the fuck do you kill these graveyard knight faggots? They kill me in 2 secs, take like 30 hits to die, and you have like a nanosecond window to hit them before they gib you.

Am I just way underpowered or in the wrong area or something?
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>>739992708
They always attack twice, dig under them and hit them in the back when they're turned. If you have the parasol throw it at them when they try to hit you.
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>>739988684
>can't attack diagonally

Yeah, this is my main problem at the moment.
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>>739991845
Artist NOW
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>>739992785
how the fuck would I ahve the parasol? I have the dagger and it sucks, I have no kears either despite seeing like 4 different kear doors on the way

I'm about to drop this shit honestly, I just don't see it getting better.
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>>739992807
Are you one of those fags that loves Super Castlevania because whipping in eight directions?
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>>739988684
Seethe harder. Maybe make another 50 Mina hate threads between tonight and tomorrow morning. Maybe it will make you a little less pathetic. No, never mind.

Oh btw, I've bought 3 copies of this game so far (Steam, GOG, and eShop). I'll buy even more when it comes out physically. You lost.
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>>739992840
Explore the graveyard more.
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>>739992889
I can't, these faggots are killing me.

Do the knights respawn after dying? If yes, I'm uninstalling right now.
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>>739988684
Wow there are so many threads bitching about this game, it must be fucking amazing
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>>739992909
No unless you dig in a checkpoint.
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>>739992930
It is. Fucking Zoom Zooms are mad because it's too hard, but also refuse to use "muh woke modifiers." Fuck em. The game is awesome if you're an actual gamer who actually plays games.
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>>739992942
So yes, they do respawn. Have two giant faggots with the same boring pattern but a fuckton of HP and damage and have them both respawn every time you die. Fuck outta here, YCG deserves bankruptcy and homelessness.
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>>739992909
Sounds like you just hate the game. Use modifiers to make it easier or uninstall, I guess.
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>>739993003
You sound unskilled and defeatist.
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>>739992987
Making an obnoxious rage game is so 2010's. This shit is lame.
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>>739992313
you are so indelibly brain damaged and ponderously fucking retarded
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>>739992509
>soulsfags when the game is actually hard
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>>739992930
It's extremely kino. Has multiple schizos seething day in & day out. You can identify them easily because they have the same fake conversation about how much the game is "failing" every thread. They lost bigly howeverthoughbeit.
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>>739992840
>how the fuck would I ahve the parasol?
It's like, one screen down from the start of the area. You could also just avoid them considering they're too stupid actually turn around after they lose track of you
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>>739993028
It's challenging, but far from being impossible. This game is a 7/10 in terms of difficulty by default. If that's too hard, use accessibility options and lower it to a 5 or 6. Hell, lower it to a 2/10 if you want. If that's still too hard and rage inducing, you need to find a new hobby although I suspect you don't actually play games, just bitch about them online and jump on "hype trains."
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>>739993028
Zoomers creamed their pants over elden ring and that's 5X harder than Mina. Then again /v/ is just embarrassingly bad at easy games.
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>>739993051
seriously. the game isn't even hard, these dipshits just got so used to spamming dodgeroll and r1 spam then jerking themselves off over their 'skill' that a game with tight design and actual variety in its challenge causes endless seethe.

i am so disappointed in /v/, seriously. this is beyond the pale
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>>739993026
Nah, I just hate everything about this game, it's not fun, I have no motivation and it's just obnoxious and poorly designed. I did Cuphead all S-ranks, Dead Cells 5BC, Atomicrops Robusta Year 10, Super Meat Boy all Ironmans, N++ all levels, Isaac Rebirth 1m% etc. This game just fucking sucks though
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>>739993139
you mean /v/ doesn't even play games, at least most of this board
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>>739993139
Elden Ring actually has good controls and (mostly) good enemy design. Mina is just obnoxious for the sake of it.
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>>739993146
>I did Cuphead all S-ranks, Dead Cells 5BC, Atomicrops Robusta Year 10, Super Meat Boy all Ironmans, N++ all levels, Isaac Rebirth 1m% etc.
Unskilled.

>I have no motivation
And defeatist.
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>>739993121
people seething about the knights is beyond hilarious to me, they are so easy and go down so fast. you literally just tunnel through them and smack them from behind a couple of times. the immense ass rage displayed by people here is astonishing
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>>739993028
>>739992909
>>739992840
Filtered
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>>739992695
I've no words for this level of denial. You're comparing a mmo to a single-player Zelda.
"suddenly" a 2d retro game has mmo mechanics. That didn't appear in either Zelda 1 or alttp. None had corpse mechanics. You've a direct teleport to the boss in some. You're telling me the game "coincidentally" has a mmo mechanic and totally isn't doing it to rip off Dark Souls. If it was only Dark Souls being 3d that'd be fair, but you're just a bad actor thinking no one has noticed.
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>>739992987
correct opinion
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>>739993204
indian
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>>739993204
>Mmo mechanic
Collecting shit after you die is not an MMO mechanic. Or a Souls mechanic. It's a basic fucking thing that has appeared in games for decades.
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>>739993182
mina has better balancing than ER
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>>739993204
You sound like you're 12. Do your parents know you use this site?
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>>739993280
>everything is immediately annoying and unfun to fight, literally within the first hour of the game
Mina is pure dogshit from a design standpoint lmao.
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>>739993320
>gameplay is more complex than gotcha shit and harder than your average movie game
>the design is shit!!!

You are continually self owning yourself and we're all laughing at you.
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>>739993439
I've played through 60 games so far this year. I know poorly made difficultyslop when I see it.
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>dagger deals less damage than the whip, has like half the range, and has an obnoxious knockback after every single hit on an enemy
So basically whip is normal mode and dagger is ultra hard bullshit mode?
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>>739993485
Name all of them along with your rating 1/10 of each
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>>739988684
>to silksong
bitch HH1 was stiff and it was great, silksong is floaty and shit
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>>739993191
I can sorta get it cause you're fighting a somewhat bulky enemy with a shield and a double dash move but if you take a second to see them in action you can plan around them pretty easily.
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>>739993485
>Difficultyslop
Is this what the kids are saying nowadays? Back in my day we'd just say 'Aw man, this game is too hard for me. Wanna sniff glue and smash goodwill snowglobes instead?'
And we did. And it was fun. I miss hanging out with Terry. Sloppiest dick sucker this side of the Mason Dixon. Not that I ever experienced that, mind you. But I saw it happen. Sweet baby Christ the sounds. Like hearing a tub of mayo getting siphoned through a shopvac.
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>>739992339
>that just means souls copies zelda
Correct.
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>>739993485
>difficultyslop
You're just a bad player, and a bad liar, at that.
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>>739993047
sure debunked my 5 points, npc subhuman. You'll never be able to analyze game design.
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>>739993631
holy shit just burrow under him directly and go straight through behind him, attack, rinse repeat. you don't need to jump around and do all that extra shit to kill the knights. they are incredibly easy and linear.
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>>739988684
I thought shovel knight felt like complete shit to play, but mina plays great

the way the jump and the burrow dodge different things and take different amounts of time to come online is a pretty great mechanic, especially with the variable burrow timing and having good movement while burrowed. lots of flexibility

I think this game will age quite well, even if it will filter a lot of people who are used to "games" that are really just a bunch of cutscenes strung together. It does ask a little bit of the player to begin with, at least to learn mechanics
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>>739993204
Yet you name a mmo. This is what you came up with.
>it's totally basic bro wow has it
This is CLAIMED to be a RETRO inspired gbc game when when games NES, GBC, GBA, SNES, fucking ZELDA, don't have that.
Dark Souls is POPULAR. Anyone who can connect dots will think, yeah, it's doing it because it's popular in Dark Souls.
This is not isolated. It's done in connection to other mechanics. It's an immense red flag that you put corpse run in games like this. You've to be very ignorant about the retro games in question. It just happened that you started gaming with Wow -> Elden Ring. So Castlevania-style games? Zelda? It's normal to have corpse runs in them bro.
I'm done with the bad actors. It's too many bad faith actors all around LOL.
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>>739993309
The irony when you didn't even know NES games don't frequently have this shit. Wow, you're samefagging lazy "u mad" replies like crazy. Are you paid to shill this shit?
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>>739993776
Yeah I did that in the first 10 seconds. Everything else like cheesing across the gap and running around a grave was to show there's like a ton of options with dealing with seemingly "unfair" opponents like knights
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>>739993734
Some games are just poorly designed, this is a classic example of one.
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>I started games with the two games Wow and Elden Ring so every game having corpse runs? totally basic design bro
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>>739994040
Everquest?
Ultima?
Fucking Diablo?
It's not a new or unique mechanic. Fucking ZombiU had it.
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>>739994321
Shovel Knight had it even
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>>739994321
Bloodstains only started appearing in indie games after Dark Souls became popular. It's one of many mechanics obviously taken from that series.
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>>739988684
>can only move and attack in 4 directions
>enemies can hit you in 8 directions
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>>739994513
That's most 2D Zelda games.
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She is so fucking slow, go on and try turning on 2x walking speed assist, she is not zooming, she's just walking like you would expect
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>>739994576
It seems like the game expects you to dig around everywhere you go.
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>>739994576
With that walkspeed I could probably just walk out of the way of most attacks in the game
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>>739992708
>dual blades
that's your problem
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If you took the daggers, just restart the game, they are the most useless piece of shit imaginable, I got back to where it took me to get in 2 hours in just 15 minutes, never died once, and kill every enemy with ease. The daggers seriously suck so fucking bad compared to the whip.
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>>739988684
I sort of want to play this but not without a demo, I don't trust the dark souls memes.
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>>739994753
Dual Blades are really good with the Dash Strike ability and the Mist Jar.
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>>739994769
The three weapons seem like references to the three primary references this game has.
>Dual daggers
Zelda
>Whip
Castlevania
>Hammer
Dark Souls
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>>739993145
if you're using daggers the game is hard, other weapons are not
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Friendly reminder that Mina the Filterer is better than your favorite rollslop game.
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>>739993196
Can't believe they actually put her "human" boyfriend in the game



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