Are people really holding a grudge or is it something else?
>>739997167BUY A FUCKING AD
>>739997167We bought Pixel Remasters instead.
>>739997167Post the full uncropped pic next time.
>>739997321It's not doing any better in Japan. Part 3 might actually get cancelled at this point.
>>739997210Fpbp. Judging by those preorders you really need it.
>>739997321It gets funnier every time you post it.
>>739997167Square Enix always works their hardest to fuck over Nintendo users so Nintendo users just gave up on the company.
>>739997167I saw the pic with all the ugly gay npcs so Im not buying it. Simple as.
>>739997659i bet it was like looking in a mirror for you.
>>739997167Nigger nobody cares about nu Final Fantasy. Buy an ad or kill yourself.
I mean it's UE5slop with gay indians, gay blacks and ugly npcs peppered throughout.That even 900 people bought it is surprising.
>GKC>50$>For an almost 10yo gameThat's why, the GKC syndrome will kill most stitch games and I'm tired of repeating this shit every time
>>739997817UE4slop* The jeet coders they hired didn't have enough experience with UE5 at the time.
It's going to be so fun watching part 3 crash and burn.
>>739997167Rebirth isn't popular on any console. Wait for the XVI port to shitpost at least.
>>739997167Holy fuck this meltdown.The game is #5 on Amazon after months of preorders and even #1 on the Japanese Nintendo eStore.
>>739997167people are retarded news at 11
>>739997632>________ always works their hardest to fuck over Nintendo users so Nintendo users just gave up on the companyWith this logic, why havent tendies given up on nintendo?
>2026>physical
>not even top 30 on us eshopDamn. They tried hard to appeal to the west with all the gay negro NPCs too...
>>739997632I have tendie fatigue
>>739998243Tbf if you filter it for Switch 2 only it is at number 8 of 19 total games.
>>739998131or maybe not and final fantasy haters are jus spewing bullshit as per usual
>>739997659this
>>739998107>Holy fuck this meltdown.Part 3 is unveiled within the next few days. The haters are going absolutely ape shit.
>>739997167The games suck bruh. It's not that deep.
>>739998380Pretty much this. Remake is mediocre at best and Rebirth is just more of it, but padded with shitty unfun mini games and busy work. Even if you rush the story, coming from Remake so recently is sure to make you roll your eyes and drop it within a few hours.
>“The second entry, FFVII Rebirth, has been doing very well on both PS5 and PC. I know some fans have expressed concerns, but please rest assured, we’ll be able to deliver a proper, high-quality third installment.” - Naoki Hamaguchi
>>739998234For every Forspoken, or Foamstars, or Final Fantasy XVI or Killer Inn Square Enix doesn't have a release to make up that massive gap in quality to appease fans.For every equivalent game from Nintendo which was really just Metroid Prime 4 in the last few years Nintendo has multiple games that fans actually love.Nintendo gets a lot of complaints because it still has fans, Square Enix doesn't because it's driven away the overwhelming majority of them, Final Fantasy is their staple IP, and their latest entry FFXVI was a monumental flop.
>>739997167Nobody is holding a grudge. It's just an ugly game made even uglier on Switch.
>>739998340This explains why jeets get so mad about people saying this game flopped.
>>739997167Tendies don't buy third party games
If the game is so popular why do they need to make PR statements about how it's selling ok but not tell us the actual numbers, and why are these threads always 90% posts from that one guy working overtime to defend it and call everyone who laughs at SE barry?
>>739997953God what a fucking idiot.
>Say you're remaking FF7>It isn't a remake at all but some weird ass sequel with time travel, alternate universes, and pointless filler >Also do a bunch of spin-offs at the same time for some reason>Find out that FF7 isn't a franchise onto itself just because it's fans are very loud >Lose millions
>>739999474there are lots of ff7 fansthe mistake was thinking they'd like tons and tons of endless ff7 themed garbage, which only some of them do. but even those uncs are getting old.
>>739997321Kek
>>739997167>release game years after the fact>anyone who wanted to play it already did>it's not a good game to begin with either>wtf why is no one buying itIt is a mystery.
It's a gimped version like all third party ports on the system
>>739999474FF7 fans are fans of the original RPG, not an action slop game that is little more than a skinwalker wearing the game as a loose aesthetic. Hell, it's not even a good action game.
>>739997167The OG is already available on Switch. Why would anyone buy the woke downgrade.
>>739997167>game-key card
>>739997167>>739997321>>739997436I already told the tendie retards time and time again that third party games never really sold all that well on Nintendo's hardware but they never listen. All of the retards think the publishers are flocking to it to support it thinking it would get them a ton of money only to realize them niggers only ever buy Nintendo kiddie stuff like Pokopia and Tomodachi Life. They put all this time, money and effort only to not be rewarded and next thing we know, they stop porting games to the Switch again and them scream bloody murder that they're stupid for leaving money on the table.
>>739997167It was 28,- on the jap eshop. Bought it there
>>739997167>(Includes Exclusive Magic: The Gathering -- Final Fantasy Promo Card)>they still can't sell itGrim. ...but I bet we'll be hearing about how this MASSIVE and long awaited RETURN TO FORM is absolutely SOLD OUT in every store EVERYWHRE(#ad)
>>740001775MTG is a dead game anon. They burned bridges so only the most dedicated retards and people looking to flip product still buy cards.
>>740001839It's a dead product to *me*, as someone who played it all the way back in Mirage, but the collabslop is extremely popular, and the Final Fantasy collabslop was no exception. If that can't even sell copies, then things are even worse than previously thought possible.
>>740001775>Magic: The GatheringLol. Le Meow even. :3
>>739997632>>739997659>>739997817>>739998457But since it's on Switch 2 everyone told me it's good all of a sudden. Now once again it's bad?
>102.5 GBAlmost half the the storage available, can't wait for CoD.
>>740001991Anon... have you even played Rebirth?
>>739997167>game-key card maybe if square weren’t retards they’d actually put the game on the card and people would buy it
>>740001901It's not nearly as popular as you think. The thing is fair weather fans don't stick around(and most of them don't actually play to begin with) and long time fans are quitting in droves. It's a death spiral.
>>739997321I watched the first episode of Bluey a few weeks ago because it has very high ratings. I didn't know it is a childrens show and something about those gay furry characters is uncanny.
>>740001839Funnily enough, the MTG crossover is FF's most successful game in 10 years and it's technically turn based.
>>740002095>It's not nearly as popular as you think.It is exactly as popular as I think it is. >The thing is fair weather fans don't stick around(and most of them don't actually play to begin with) That's why I said the collabslop is extremely popular. Did you read anything I said?
>>740002058Jesus Christ.
>>739997167final fantasy was slop since it's inceptionliterally a quick buck before the studio would close. d&d nerds astroturfed it (their first rpg. lol) and saved the studioit's 2026 and the internet exists. people are no longer getting scammed by crypto nerds like youbuy an ad, faggot
>>740002187Did you? Shit is a dying game. The only people buying are those looking to flip.
>>740002241Alright, clearly you can't read and we aren't having a conversation. You are just sperging out.
>>740002236>literally a quick buck before the studio would close. d&d nerds astroturfed it (their first rpg. lol) and saved the studio>it's 2026 and the internet exists. people are no longer getting scammed by crypto nerds like youAnd yet you're still getting scammed by fake stories like a retard. Its well known that Square was already healthy and profitable when they released the first Final Fantasy.
>>740002236>literally a quick buck before the studio would close.That urban legend has never been true. It was named "Final Fantasy" because "Fighting Fantasy" was already taken.
Aerith diedCloud thinks Aerith is alive but everyone else knows that she's deadZack is still deadCloud has both black and white materiaYou're welcome
>>740002027It's 170GB on series x
>>740002553Aerith is alive
>>740002556A series x also has 4x the storage available.
>>740002938No she's not. Otherwise she would have followed the party.
>>739997436They cannot cancel it, this is the stupid decision they made and they are fully aware they have to release part 3. they already lost money on part 2, and most of the things they release lose money anyway. FF14 trannies will pay for it with more cosmetics.
>>740003229square enix are retarded coward faggots, they will bring her back alive in the last one. they are changing everything anyway, nothing matters
>102 GB downloadWHAT THE FUCK
>>739997167that's not a final fantasy game. that's an action slop game with the name slapped on it
>>740003646That's trimmed down a lot the game is 150 on PS5 and 170 on XBOX they can't get it any smaller.
>>739997167I would have bought it if it was on switch 1. I’m not buying a switch 2. the games are the same.
>>740002553Cloud can see an Aerith from a different universe, and the crack in the sky signalling his universe will be destroyed.Zack is alive in a different universe and might just cross over in part 3.Part 3 will end with an Aerith and Zack being together in some parallel universe.Yes it's dumb
>>740003764Bullshit, Xenoblade fits perfectly fine on Switch, modern devs are just lazy fucks and the vast majority of that space is used up by uncompressed audio
>>740003638They didn't change anything
>>740003910So why did the alternate universe Aerith not follow the alternate universe Cloud and party?
>>739997953I've been playing through rebirth for the first time and god damn I'm sick of all these fucking mini games. I've gotten to gold saucer and theres just constant fucking mini games or stupid platforming bullshit. I just want to kill things.
>>739997167Why is everything Square puts out on Switch 2 a key card? Do they think express cards are cheap? Fuck them.
>>739997167>>739997321>>739997436>01./00. [NS2] Final Fantasy VII Remake: Intergrade <RPG> (Square Enix) {2026.01.22} - 23.428 / NEW>02./00. [PS5] Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade <RPG> (Square Enix) {2021.06.10} - 20.889lollmao
>>740003764Just cut the shitty third world voice acting and 44k textures that no one uses and you could get it down to like 10GB tops.
>>740004113To pray and stop meteor, she said so.Or do you mean why isn't she with her group? In which case, she might be the same one from Zack's universe which means her group is dead and Cloud has merged with his alter ego? Fuck if I know.I'm just saying there's more to Cloud thinking Aerith is alive, as he can clearly see the tear in the sky.
>>739997167Bad snoy boomer IP
>>740004468>ignoring the fact that FF7 remake opened to 702k on the PS4 and the Intergrade PS5 upgrade was free on the storeDumbass
this trilogy is made by retarded faggots for retarded faggots
>>739997167Final Fantasy Rebirth is not popular anywhere.It flopped in all platforms.
Waste money on Elliot instead.
>>740002058This game looks so ugly, WTF.
>>740004534Meteor is not summoned yet. In fact Cloud is en route to hand over the black materia so that meteor can be summoned. And Aerith from Zack's universe is in Midgar and she's unconcious. The tear in the sky is part of the Reunion Theory where Jenova is guiding all Seohiroth clones through the tear back to her.
>>740004636PS4 is 13 years old, anon.Remake bombed on PS5.
>>740004927FF7 remake released at the very end of the PS4 lifespan though. Why would someone buy a physical copy for a game they already own when the upgrade was free digitally?
>>740004895True, but she's the one who said it.Aerith in Zack's universe wakes up and go on a date with Cloud, or maybe you're right and they are in another universe. Regardless this Aerith could be anyone from the multiverse.I thought the tear meant the world was about to be destroyed no? Now I'm too lazy to check so you might be right.Anyway I'm still annoyed by the multiverse shit and have no hope that the team will make a satisfying ending but you never know.
>>740004756I'll buy it when it's at least 50% off. That's what I do for all game key card games going forward. Anyone else who releases a physical switch 2 cart gets my money.
>>740005273No not the same Aerith. Different Stamp. Also the Cloud from the dream date world (chihuahuaverse) is wearing the same merc uniform from the real world but the Cloud from Zack's world(s) is wearing the same Soldier uniform from Nibelheim.
If anyone really is retarded enough to buy the switch "physical" version just get it second hand the day after because 90% of the drooling retards buying it are getting it for the MTG card. The returns section of every game store is going to be stuffed with unplayed Rebirth cases.
>>739999474There are FF7 fans.And then there are Nomura fans. Which is a very vocal minority. Just look at Strangers of Paradise.
>>739997167Final Fantasy isn't popular anywhere nowadays
>>740004990>Why would someone buy a gameThe story of PS5 owners
>>739997167People who are still buying physical games will be put off by the fact that it's a game key card, people who are buying digital games will be put off by the file size. I've been tempted by Remake for under 25 bucks several times now, but those 90 gigabytes are more precious to me than the money.
>>739999474Nothing they've done since FFVII in the "FFVII-verse" has been as good as FFVII. FFXIV Shadowbringers is like the only thing this company has done in the past 25 years that is reminiscent of its former self. FFXVI was soooo close, but they couldn't stick the landing on the gameplay. Note that I have not played the Nier games.
>>740005786TWEWY duology was killer
>>740002095They need a better digital game to get people interestedArena fucking sucks, Duels was good but it died like the instant I got into it
>>740001567It's only a matter of time before Nintendo stops producing niche games like Fire Emblem and Xenoblade.There's been nothing for Fortune's Weave for an entire year. Nothing new for Xenoblade and the Xenoblade X Switch port gigabombed. Nintendo is never going to hit those one hit wonders like they did with Three Houses and Xenoblade 2 due market shifts. Even stuff like Kirby is getting dangerously close to being shelved after Air Riders did poorly. Star Fox is getting one last hurrah before being thrown into the vault for good. Nintendo is just normieslop and pokemon now.
>>740005925seethe lil bro
>>740005925They also have seen how poorly stuff like Prime 4, Bayonetta 3, Astral Chain and many more all did poorly or at the very least did decent at launch but sales fell like a nuke and its pitiful legs make them barely sell any more copies after the initial launch.
>>739997167It’s a game key card, they barely sellAlso I already played this on PC
>>740005925Schizophrenia
>>740006158>he doesn't know about cartridge lickingZoomer sonyfags can't be this ignorant.
>>740006224nigger i know about it and frankly i still don't give a shit, its funnier to think that its because Diana doesn't like the Switch port.
>>739997167It's part 2 of a 10 years long trilogy that's also a remake
>>740005925>Xenoblade X Switch port gigabombedMaybe they shouldn't have censored it even in japan then. Shocking truth!
least obvious samefag
>>740006550and they're remaking just 2 hours of gameplay from the original PS1 game, trying to make it into a full game.It's so fucking stupid.
>>740004075If they didn't change anything, why is the shit three times the length of the original game?
>>740006759WatYou are aware part 1 and 2 are still disc 1, right?
>>739998370I’m avoiding this place like the plague when Part 3 is announced. We’ve had some decent threads recently that’s made me think Barry is MIA but I know he’ll back up in a few days to a week’s time.
>>740007324I noticed an interesting patternif Aerith is in the op the shitposting gets reduced by A LOT, even the schizo samefagging his fanboy larp posts once at most. Some called out it's some zeldafag obsessed with asses and selfinserts as Zelda/Aerith
>>740005456Funnily enough I played and finished SoP over the last month (was on sale for $12 dollarydoos). Has its flaws but from what I saw in the credits Nomura had fuck-all to do with it outside character designs. Was a pretty fun game but they must have lost money from licensing Frank Sinatra’s arguably best song.
>>740005703That’s one of the biggest complaints I had with Rebirth on my Piss5. If Witcher 3 could get away with 55 GB back in 2016 with all DLCs there is no reason a game of equal size like Rebirth should be 148GB
>>740007507As is often the case, people call Nomura out for Nojima's writing.
>>739997632Octopath Traveler and Triangle Strategy were timed exclusives on the Switch and to this day the Switch is the only console that has physical copies available for them than other platforms(excluding the English Asian copies).If anything SQ gave tendies too much.
>>739997632Like xenoblade gave you everything and you weren't able to make them sell 8 millions each at least
>>740006765Cutscenes
>>740005925Good morning Eric, I see you’re early for this week’s seethe campaign
>>740005925Jrpg is just being cucked by gacha
>>739997953a walking simulator truly made by fucking retards.
>>740006303Retard.
>>740008347Cope.
>>740006765because they changed a lot
>>739998107Switch 2 has no games and further more no one buys their games from amazon.
What did he mean by this
>>739997167Final Fantasy isn't popular
>>740002025I have them both on PC because even though I hated FFVII remake I actually trusted retards here and thought that maybe Rebirth had actually fixed shit. Fuck no, and not only did Chadley return but now he has a fucking assitant that is as lame as he is, the game is a fucking mess, and I can't even say at least it looks good now, because it really doesn't, the sheer amount of pop in for foliage is laughable, Breath of the Wild isn't this bad and that's a fucking Switch game, I have a 5070ti, my GPU is more powerful than the one that will be in a PS6.
>>740008438This is the same as the original
>>740001567Why buy third party games on Nintendo hardware when third parties just don't give a fuck? I will put in the same amount of effort into my purchase as third parties will put into their ports, which is zero. In the off chance that a third party has some magical insight and tries I will buy their game, last third party release I purchased on Nintendo hardware was Live a Live.Fuck third parties, and fuck Square Enix.
>>740005629>just buy the game again!Spoken like a true tendie
>>740007507As far as I know though Nomura signed off on every Job, every line of dialogue, he even told Daisuke Inoue (who was a Versus battle planner) to read a selection of manga to understand what he wanted for Jack and he drafter on his yaoi/fujoshi eroge writer friend from KH Days to create the story outline.>spoilerNomura said he was going to cancel the game if he wasn't given the license at any point in development. He obtained the license at 80% of development.>>740007614The dialogue however was Nojima. Except for the Vigillia Court one that was a comment on Nomura's situation with Versus.
>mass-produced jeetslop flops>people blame Nintendo, which is one of the only companies that doesn’t outsource and still makes decent games that aren’t slop
>>740008828>Nomura said he was going to cancel the game if he wasn't given the license at any point in development. He obtained the license at 80% of development.>he wanted to make his Versus tell all in game for My WayI love this man
>>740008950Didn't they outsource metroid?
>>740008950It doesn't matterMake a game that's not a trilogy day one multiplatform and people won't care just like they didn't care about Persona being censored
>>740009080To Americans and Europeans, sure. And it’s by far the worst Nintendo title put out in 20+ years. Still not a single Indian in the credits.
>>739997167WOW!!! RETARD THREAD
>>740008585Its not, in the original the entire party is left behind except cloud for no reason instead
>>740008438>hey guys this is the directors here>we put the time ghosts in to remind you, just in case you didn't know we have autism.. we have autism
Nobody cares about actually cares about censorship, it's performative.NuSquare censored the Dragon Quest I II III remakes and everyone gobbled them up.
>>740009330It's just like the original:A massive whisper portal opens up, and the battle between white (good) and black (evil) whispers commences. Cloud says aerith's name which opens the portal passage for him so he can walk through the portal alone and block the sword. While scene glitches out
>>7400077178 million isn't even remotely standard for the genre, not even historically has that been the standard for high profile JRPGs, why would you expect Xenoblade to hit those kinds of sales, they generally do 2-3 million which is extremely good for a JRPG series, it's not Final Fantasy or Persona.
>>739997167I boughted it digitally as I'm sure the rest of my based current gen dominating brethren did
>>740007763Eric>BarryEricEric>BarryEricEric>BarryEricYour NPC script is running fine at least.
>>740003229>>740002938https://youtu.be/ihInCPBf5QY?t=1581Why does the credits cut that cutscene with Aerith opening her eyes?Why theres chunks of empty spaces between cutscenes?mmm
>>740007763>>740009498Someone post the poopschizo pasta, it's happening again
>>740009442Because you faggots cry too much and then don't make those games sell Look at E33 and bg33. What stopped botwfags or pokemonfags from supporting xenoblade?
>>740009506Only scenes that happen are in credits, so Cloud was really in an alt dimension and woke up aerith confirmed
people in the west are intelligent enough to buy a game like rebirth on a device that can actually handle itunlike the japanese who will always willingly choose to play a gimped version as long as it is on a handheld.
>>740008828>Nomura said he was going to cancel the game if he wasn't given the license at any point in developmentI'll need a source on that.The guy is not even part of the board of directors, he's an employee, he can't just cancel games on a whim.
>>740009578Xenoblade 2 is too based for this world, and Xeno 3 tried to appeal to a “wider audience”, it deserves the sales it got
>>740001049Squeenix, Sega, and Bamco cannot help themselves. Throwing out GKCs that underperform is like some sort of addiction to them. Even Capcom is doing it, their entire Resident Evil collection coming out soon is all GKCs despite being a collector's edition.
>>740009578BG3 isn't a JRPG and E33 was an RPG for people who hated JRPGs.3 million units isn't selling? The overwhelming majority of JRPG's including legacy series still alive today don't sell that well.
I got Rebirth on Xbox where it's on sale for $40 (pre-order discount)comes with a PC copy as well
>>740009581Not only is the hardware limited but the port is lazy as fuck, zero effort was put in.
>>740005436Good tip actually
Final Fantasy fags cannot comprehend that the overwhelming majority of people think that shit is retarded and gay because it is.I would argue FFfags are way more autistic and stuck in their childhood than any nintentoddler.What kind of fucking retard buys a remake that is being butchered into 3 parts and sold separately?It's pathetic
>>739997167FF is popular on Nintendo systems. Incomplete games aren't, as are games that require a ONE HUNDRED GB DOWNLOAD.
>>740011745You say this as if the remake series is selling well. It's not. And those sales plummetted as soon as people found out it was more nomura compilation autism.
>hourly snoy cope threadRebirth
>>740002553Of aerith coming back spits in the face of the original games message. Why accept loss when you can just deny reality and bring back the dead. Shit message.
>>740010935Even Atlus said that's not enough. We are talking about 60 hours long games, open world, expensive cutscenes and expensive vasFor all the crying they should sell way more yes, if they can't trust the market then they won't poop a jrpg that's not pixel shit or every 10 years
>>740011745>Final Fantasy fags cannot comprehend that the overwhelming majority of people think that shit is retarded and gay because it is.You say this but yet i still see people buying xenoblade games and nu-fire emblem games.This is not about what people think.
>>740011986Atlus games sell at a discount, those 2-3 million copies of Xenoblade are sold at mostly full price. Nintendo is also really good at keeping budgets in check
>>740009581The japanese are smart enough not to buy dogshit like stillbirth to begin with.
>>740012369And yet again they should sell more.
>>739997167Remake and Rebirth can fuck right off.
>>740012440Nta but people have some autistic expectations with sales. Jrpgfags are way older now, gacha became too strong and a lot of people are now pc or one console x pc only. You are not going to get people buying the same game in 5 different platforms anymore, now they buy it for pc AND you must add the family share thing.Like my cousins only played FFX and P5R because I had those in my account kek
Rebirth is kino but you're a retarded NPC if you can tolerate it on dogshit console hardware
>>739997167Too much Ubislop and DEI in Redditbirth I'm afraidMost are waiting for the 10/10 FFXVI Switch 2 release.
>>740011956meh when joel got golf clubbed i doubt you were thinking about themes of loss but more about how you wanted to strangle that roided tranny and then get pissed off that the dyke let her go.
>>740012941Too forced anon
>>740013146Also funny, why can't Cuckmann let Palestine go?
>>740008087This. FE Heroes probably brings in more money for Nintendo than all of their active RPG franchises combined and with only a fraction of the effort. If Xeno/FE console games die this will be why.
>>740013354Xenoblade could be a lot more popular if nintendo allowed it to go multiplatform like they did with fatal frame Though they should also drop the EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED, just make selfcontained games which is the reason why everyone is still so obsessed with FF
Several reasons.1. Gamekeycard wich shifts sales towards digital. not that many people will fully abstain for this.2. Most people that wanted this game have had it on another platform for a long time.3. The price is too high for what is essentially an old game.4. Squeenix pushed more FF fans away with 16
>>740013508Didn't see many posts like this when the port was announced. I did see a lot of "tick tock haters 10 milly sales soon" and "omg its sold out everywhere!!!" #ad
>>740013354Xeno will never die because Monolith compensates by hard carrying Nintendo’s technical departmentsFE yeah probably is alive thanks to the gacha
>>740002553Cloud accepted loss in the OG when he delusionally thought he could just reunite with Aerith if he found the promised land? Maybe you just never understood the game.If anything, the sequels do try to make him accept her loss, it doesn't work either.
>>740003910No, it will end with Cloud and Aerith reuniting this time.
>>740013719It says met others in the original
>>740004075Kek
>>740011986The costs and profit dynamics between Atlus and Monolithsoft aren't even remotely the same. Because Atlus are now on Unreal, and because their games are very different to Monolith Soft in how they are assembled Sega would pay more per title and because Sega are a third party publisher they would recieve less per title, add that into Atlus still being a self contained entity in spite of being a subsidiary of Sega, Sega would not only have to pay for a games development but also give Atlus a standard developer share of a game.Compare that with Monolithsoft, it's all inhouse tech, they pay no fee to use their own engine, and the tradeoff is maintaining their own engine but not having to wrangle with a third party engine to get it to do what they want, for an A or higher studio it is cheaper to use your own inhouse engine than to use Unreal or Unity, and it's even cheaper for Monolithsoft because it's adapted for one platform. Monlithsoft also figured out a really sneaky method of making cutscenes for less, they hire a film studio to make them, and because of the long term relationship they already have an efficient workflow for this. Monolithsoft have adapted their own internal workflow to make open worlds efficiently.Monolith are owned by Nintendo who publish to their own hardware, because of this Nintendo who pay for the games development entirely get significantly higher margins per sale, for Sega it's around $20 per sale, for Nintendo it's around $40.if Xenoblade 3 and Metaphor Refantazio cost the same to make which I seriously doubt then Xenoblade would be profitable at half the sales it would take for Refantazio to turn a profit.Atlus saying that's not enough is completely irrelevant.
>>739997167>Why isn't final fantasy as popular on nintendoThe game bombed on the ps5 too, the fuck you talking about?
>>740013719He does get his wish thoBecause everyone dies and they reuniteThe sequels retcon that and that's why Cloud is unhappy
>>740013867Ok but then jrpgs can only be profitable if you happen to have luck with your publisher supporting you.
>>740001567>I already told the tendie retards time and time again that third party games never really sold all that well on Nintendo's hardware but they never listen.The Millennium Tales is going to sell several times more on Nintendo hardware than Playstation hardware. It's a third party game. But never would I ever care about buying chopped up, bloated, horribly reimagined, individual remakes, of FF7. Why use FF7R, and ports that are way late at that, as a benchmark for third parties?
>why did this game that sold badly on ps5 and sold badly on pc not sell extremely well on switch 2?Who knows
>>739997167Who needs consoles when PCs exist lmao
>>740013719>>740013950Cloud will dissolve into the lifestream when he dies.
>>740013993BA7RY was convinced that the Switch ports would save this trash
>>740013859Are you dense on purpose?
>>740009506Why is there an Aerith affected by the elements at the end if not to distinguish her from the one not affected by them?
>>740014140Cloud would reunite with Aerith in the promised land if she was dead, before both dissolving and being reborn.Dissolving in the lifestream is a concept technically introduced in AC, and already retconned in EC as we see Zack and Angeal happily loitering there.In the OG everyone dies and Cloud and Aerith reunite.
>>739997249Common turnBASED W
>>740013789The devs are too deep in that Zack x Aerith OTP to have Cloud end up with Aerith.
>>739997167Switch 2 has no install base and the game is ancient most have it on PC/PS5/XBox
>>740004636>game is so shit that no one double dipped
>>739997167The novelty of a 7 remake wore off immediately after the first game.
>>740015086More like there's no novelty because there's no remake
>>740014686Zack gave Cloud his blessing already, so I doubt it lol
>>740014574In OG everyone survives that's why AC happened. Also EC is hardly a measure of anything since everythingis just episodic and thereno coherent continuity. But we know only Aerith, Zack and Sephiroth do not dissolve eventually in AC. The rest do dissolve. Zack not dissolving is further backed up by the novels and Rebirth, potentially because he received the gift of the goddess in CC for his heroic deeds.
>>740015216Omni Aerith waited hundreds of years to reunite with Cloud only to fumble miserably during the confession begore dying to Sephiroth
>>740015414In the OG everyone dies and Cloud and Aerith reunite, he's not depressed. In the sequel everyone survived and Cloud is depressed as fuck.In AC only Sephiroth and Aerith maintained their forms in the lifestream. In EC anyone can apparently. >only Sephiroth, Aerith, and Zack for some reasonlmaoAngeal is right there. Square does shit without thinking, where are the other SOLDIER in the lifestream.
>>740015736>Aerith trying to NOT openly confess to Cloud so he won't kill himself
What went wrong?The game is pretty fun and looks great. The combat is much better than in Kingdom Hearts.
>>739997167Guess it's up to Xbox to unflop this turd.
>>740015847PS5 exclusivity. Ironically PS is still the best console for it, it's super heavy in other consoles.
>>740015813That would actually prevent meteor and Sephiroth's resurrection
>>739998243Lol doesn't this release in like 2 days?
>>740015754What fanfiction did you read that everyone dies in OG and Cloud does not dissolve into the lifestream? And here is Zack fully formed with a fully formed Aerith in AC. We actually never see Sephiroth in the lifestream in AC, only after the Reunion with Kadaj.
>>739997167The fact is people are waiting for the COMPLETE version.Not my fault SE needs a decade for that.I'll buy the complete collection once it is 69 bucks.
>>740016341A woman in love like Aerith can't make rational decisions. She should be encouraging Cloud to kill himself.Or maybe Sephiroth would just use another pawn to get the black materia eventually and no one would stop him.
>>740016593Read the novel. Only Sephiroth and Aerith maintain themselves there. Zack was summoned by Aerith temporarily to help Cloud.
>>740007324He's busy with kagurabachi on /a/, he overtook the /wsj/ general and has daily meltdowns about that manga.
>>740016593Everyone dies in the OG
>>740016789So the movie is fake news? What about Rebirth?
>>740017039Clearly not because AC and DoC happen after OG
>>740017097Why would the movie be fake news?And that is a timeline where Zack survived.
>>739997167It's a game key card, that's why more people aren't buying it/thread and go kill yourself you fucking retard
>>740017298>It's a game key card99% of games are
No one wants to buy GKCs and there’s data to back that up, people see a game is a GKC and they’re significantly less likely to buy it. The reason should be obvious, the switch 2 only has 256 gigs of storage so expecting the customer to download big ass games is simply unreasonable, it also invalidates one of the few upsides of the switch; convienence. You buy a switch so you can just pop a game in and play it, the graphics will naturally be worse but the time spent not having to sit through a long ass download more than makes up for it. The only exception here is pokopia, which as an aside, why the actual fuck is that game a GKC? It’s 6 gigs. They could have just put the entirety of pokopia on the smallest card so this just tells me Nintendo is aware how unpopular GKC are so this was an attempt to force people to buy them.
>>740017198Yep. Retcon.
>>740017385That is objectively false. Even cyberpunk is on a normal card, if they could get the full game and phantom liberty on a card these people have no excuse whatsoever.
>>740017426This, when I see publishers do this shit it shows me they don't care and are lazy, I bought Cyberpunk cause the devs went out of their way to make it not be a game key card, Square and other Japanese jew devs can go fuck themselves for being lazy
>>740017426>Even cyberpunk is on a normal cardLmao.That's one of the 1% exceptions.Telling that you need to name a launch game kek
>>740017274And the movie showed Zack is fully formed in the lifestream with Aerith and no Sephiroth in the lifestream. And no Zack is dead in Rebirth, as proven by Cloud having his sword. There is no alternate timeline as that's all lifestream shenanigans plus Zack died 2 months before fate is killed.
FF hasn't been pop-culturally relevant in about 20 years. It literally never recovered from Spirits Within.
>>740015754>In the OG everyone diesDid people forget about the post credit scene with Red XIII?
>>740017596Cloud doesn't have the sword in the Zack timeline. Did you play the game?
>>740017727Humanity dies.
>>740017548Indiana Jones is also full on cart and that one came out like 2 weeks ago They just want bigger cuts from the sale
>>740017596The movie showed a fully formed Zack appeared to help Cloud.The novel explained only Sephiroth and Aerith maintain themselves in the lifestream.
>>740017752I said the Zack timeline is just lifestream shenanigans. And yes Cloud in Zack's timeline never got the buster sword and never knew Aerith.
>>740018105And saying goodbyes to Cloud with Aerith.
>>740018134Zack survived in another timeline. In that timeline other Avalanche members died. That's the Zack we are seeing. With Marlene and Elmyra, they are alive in both timelines.
>>740018198Yes, because he actually dissolves. Aerith still remains in the lifestream watching over Cloud.
>>740018296Not shown that he dissolved.
>>740017391>No one wants to buy GKCs and there’s data to back that up, people see a game is a GKC and they’re significantly less likely to buy itMeanwhile in reality, no one cares if the games are GKCs except for the vocal minority online. Pokopia physicals was out of stock for a while same for RE9 and Pragmata in japan
>>740018534He did when he left the church.In EC he doesn't, he leaves with Angeal.
>>740018227Zack died 2 months before fate was defeated. All the timeline crap also only happens in Zack's l8festream shenanigans.
>>740018782Not shown in the movie. EC is during OG, before AC. There is no alternate universe, just the Compilation in a linear timeline.
>>740003964>the vast majority of that space is used up by uncompressed audiooh, you're one of those retards.
>>740018884Why are Elmyra, Marlene, Cloud, and Aerith in the lifestream?It's another timeline.
>>740019015So Zack and Angeal were always able to maintain themselves in the lifestream? Aerith just didn't care about Zack enough to think about him in the AC novel and mention this?
>>740019509All NPCs. Main thing is Zack died 2 months beofre fate was defeated.
>>740019614Main thing is it's another timeline where other characters died instead of Zack.
>>740019606Zack did appear in the movie ending which was set after OG, EC and Remake.
>>740018010We hear children laughing.All we know is that in 500 years later, Midgar is not populated, that's all.
>>740019015counter argument: only OG exists, the rest is fanfic
>>740017631Yet besides maybe p5 every turn based released is compared to FF. You would think DQ11 would be used more or something
>>739997249>6 million copies soldThis is considered a failure by Square Enix's ridiculous new standards btw
>>740019758That doesn't answer my question. Zack and Angeal were always able to maintain their forms and left together somewhere while leaving Aerith? She doesn't think about them at all on the AC novel?
>>740019871>this is considered a failure by any dev ridiculous standards btwfixed . doesn't matter the number of copies sold by the way
>>740019871It isn't, because Square Enix expectations depend on how much it cost to make the games.DQ3 sold 2 million copies in 2 weeks btw
>>740019694Yeah I know the storyline. Zack is late 2 months to Midgar so Cloud never become a fraud and never protected Aerith and Shinra kidnapped her and Barret and Tifa through their own Avalanche agenda stormed Shinra HQ and happen to find Aerith there and saved her, only to be killed when they tried to escape and then only Zack is reunited with Aerith. Problem is that there is only 1 real timeline which is the beagleverse. How can there be only 1 very specific alternate timeline where the divergent point is that Zack is late to Midgar for 2 months? When all the examples where Zack splits his timeline is at that exact spot he is doing a specific action
>>740001567The problem isnt third party games and its not even square enix. Octopath sold like hotcakes. The problem is that the video game in question is forspoken with a FF7 skin over it.
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>>740020520Thanks gemini.
>>740020520So it's a yes to Angeal and Zack always being able to maintain themselves in the lifestream and leaving Aerith alone until Cloud needs support in AC? While Aerith didn't think about them being in the lifestream in the novel?
>>739997167they need to bundle a sd card with the game if they want me to buy their unoptimized slop
>gamekey card
>>740020669We don't see Angeal in AC tho. If we follow EC storyline, Zack had to go with Angeal until he returns back in AC.
>>740021096If we follow EC storyline Zack was with Angeal and came to help Cloud in AC. Aerith never mentions them in the novel. And you say all of this aligns perfectly with the OG?
For a society that would be omega pissed if miles morales took the place as spiderman in the 3rd gameyou guys seem to be ok with zack the quack being some important dude and the should be the face of ff7 for some reason
>>740022158these people will like whatever they get as long as they get more ff7. they dont care about what happens, any excuse to continue their decades long obsession with the characters will do.
>>739997167>amazonThis is a snoy melty thread
huh??
>>740021536She doesn't have to, EC is by release order a later game to the novel. What's important is that AC is chronologically after the novel and Zack and Aerith can form themsleves there in the movie. EC chronologically happens during OG or Remake.
>>739997210fpbpAlso, basically all third parties sell like shit on nintendo and it's the worst way to play them, this is nothing out of the ordinary.
>>740023123I hate how the rest of the world is subsidizing how worthless the yen is to make the Japanese market less fucked
>>740023123Yoshi is so bad that they rather play demakes.
>>740003964xeno looks like a game from last gen compared to ff7r visuals anon and ff7r is literally a 200hr+ game with several open world continents over 150 different enemy models and several different bioms and cities
>>739997167>keycard>superfan bought it the first 3 times it was released>game sucksIt's really not that hard to decode if you're not stupid.
>>739997167>why isnt a glorified digital game popular Everyone's buying rebirth digitally. I dont think its going to be a crazy runaway success but it seems to already be outpacing the PS5 and PC versions.
>>739997167>59€ just because europeans always got to pay more>For a game that costs like 15€ in a key site on pc>And to top it off it's a fucking GKCFuck them, they can put the game where the sun doesn't shine
>>740025387>it seems toWhat are you basing this on? And please don't cite a genki tweet
>>740009080The gave it to Americans because they are good at shooters. It's worked alright for 3 games. They decided to give I think Square the control for the 4th game, made a slop open world behind schedule so bad Nintendo had to pull the plug and give it back to the Americans for clean up. That's how we got the shit that was MP4.
>>740024593the people who spent the past few years claiming viir would sell millions on the switch... were wrong?
>>740004893sauce?
>>740025831It wasn't Square, it was Bamco. And boy did they fuck it up.
>>740025831... that wasnt square
>>740026613I only said I think, I don't really play nip games so I don't know the studios as well. The switch/2 is for the wife really. I wasn't sure and didn't really care to look. Another anon pointed out already.Main point still stands.
>>739997167Nobody really buys physical anymore, especially gkc.>>739998243This is where the real problem is.
