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this game is very fun but very complex and a tad too reliant on the wiki
do you guys like warframe?
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>>740005074
>too reliant on the wiki
Have you tried playing the fucking game?
what the fuck do you need wiki for?
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It has a lot of content, not very complex. Just play whatever and it will all come to you. Most missions give you useable shit anyway so you're never wasting time
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I dont like how the game is 90% braindead easy and 10% gearcheck wall.
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>>740005285
>telling ANYONE to never use the Warframe wiki
Kill yourself immediately.
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>>740005074
so what's the endgame
I have been asking this same question for years now
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>Grind
>Fun
lmao
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>>740005412
there is no gearcheck lmao the game is a snoozefest from start to finish
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>>740005762
Obtaining new guns, mostly.
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https://www.youtube.com/live/p30NfOYD5CU
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>>740005074
Will it force you to upgrade to Win11 soon?
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The definition of "Potential Game". I don't think anyone is playing it who isn't firmly convinced that there's an update on the horizon that's going to fix the shit they hate about it, which always manages to outnumber the things they like about it but they keep playing anyway
>t. 1000 hour player before I gave it up
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>>740007435
no one hates the game, anon
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like >>740007435 said, warframe is better as a concept than as a real game. aside from adding bullshit content islands that don't mesh well with the rest of the game, the devs also constantly create more and more powercreep. the scaling systems completely destroy any challenge the game has because the game forces you to build yourself into an unkillable demigod just to deal with enemies at the higher end of the scale.
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>>740005762
Farm for new stuff and then resume farming for old stuff
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>>740005285
how about understanding modding?
you know, one of the fundamental and most important mechanics of the game that are to this day very poorly explained?
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>>740007435
>there's an update on the horizon that's going to fix the shit they hate about it
they're fixing Nidus after 10 years so yeah, there actually is an update
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>>740005074
The gameplay itself is fun.
But DE seems set on creating 'balanced' experiences by locking you out of all your stuff for their missions/special bosses/super special RJ quest.
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>>740009636
>they're fixing Nidus after 10 years
What's their 'fix'?
Will he no longer be dependent on mutation stacks to survive?
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>>740005074
>this game is very fun
It isn't.
>but very complex
It's not.
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>>740005074
>do you guys like warframe?
i liked warframe under steve
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>>740009896
i liked your mom on my dick
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>>740009636
>they're fixing Nidus
No, they're changing Nidus. They went through 3 iterations of melee and they still haven't fixed it. They don't know how to fix it, because the game is at odds with its userbase.

This is the fundamental Warframe problem. The game incentivizes endless grind, but grind itself isn't fun, so players are constantly looking for ways to optimize it out and skip as much gameplay as possible. The developers can't balance the game to correct these degenerate strategies and make it fun and engaging, because that slows down the grind, and the players will pitch a nuclear-threat-level fit any time anything is done which makes the grind even marginally longer.

Which, in the defense of the players, is fair. Nobody wants to run the same mission 3,000 times in a row to roll for a fucking drop. They want that shit to be over with in seconds if they can manage it. Creating a fun, engaging, challenging experience with a lot of depth and variance will always be antithetical to the gameplay loop of "repeat it ad nauseam hoping for a rare drop".

But since Warframe is F2P, it has to hate its players, it has to make the game suck to play, because if it didn't, then what incentive would you have to pay money to skip it? So the devs need to make the game an endless slog of shit, while the players try to find ways to skip that endless slog of shit, and whenever they find a way, the devs have to just embrace it and respond by making the next shit slog even sloggier to account for the ever-escalating pace.

This is how we end up with a "game" that's about pressing 4 and spin2win while occasionally clicking a gun that one shots 300 enemies at a time, so you can re-beat the same barely-randomized map 400 times in an hour. There's no light at the end of that tunnel. There's nothing more that it can ever be.
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>>740009946
kys rebfaggot
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>>740009790
>>740009984
>increased base health and regen rate
>increased base max stacks to 200 with an additional max stacks to 300 with the augment
>1's spikes continue dealing smaller damage for a short duration
>improved Virulence pathing down gap and increased crit chance bonus
>2 allows recasting, dismisses the previous larva
>mutation stack scales with power strength and buffed toxic stack per enemy
>added a “grace period" for his 3 before it snaps, improved targeting
>companions and specters can now be linked, recasting now switches target instead of ending the ability
>hold to cancel the ability, and removed stack cost
>range now applies to his 4, clears status when it heals, increased health regen while standing on the nest
>improved Maggot visibility and AI, now spawn in faster
They're essentially keeping him the same but have removed his shackles that slowed him down compared to the rest of the group. They're not fundamentally reworking him like Vauban, Nyx or Ember.
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>>740009590
it's literally just multiplicative scaling, get a little bit of everything and you're done
unless your weapon doesn't support crit, in which case you forego crit or just crit chance + a frame that forces crits
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My on-call crew Arbiters of Hexis guy keeps yelling "Extreme correction has been carried out!" when I'm using my operator. What does he mean by that?
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>>740010282
how do you know what weapon is better for crits and what isn't without looking at the wiki
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>>740010367
by looking at the base stats? what kinda question is that
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>>740010195
>increased base health and regen rate
Unless that adds up to 500 heath a second to enable persistence, what's the point?
Health is meaningless. that's why Inaros was in bad shape till persistence.
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>>740005074
I used to but theres no point in playing now.
Every new frame is just another frame with different visual flair or multiple frames combined so meta fags can jerk off to numbers
New weapons arent as good as weapons from years ago except the ones that are variations of meta weapons because of course DE has nothing to make
Aya farming is gay
Games like 80 gigs now and for no good reason
I could go on but I wont. Gameplay is fun so if you enjoy that sure have fun but most people's most played frames are things like saryn, whisp, mesa, gauss. Basically the anti gameplay frames so ye, no point playing it
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>>740005074
No
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>>740006212
Of course they will. They got rid of the old renderer despite pushback and they will for sure do that again whenever dx12 ultimate or 13 or whatever comes out
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>>740005074
I like it but I often play for a few months, drop it for a few years, then repeat. I've done this several times and everytime I have fun.
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I dip in and out once every year or two and get initially overwhelmed

Last big update i played was the jade one where you learn the stalker's backstory, god know how much nonsense has been added since then
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>get to MR22
>start minmaxxing my frames and weps
>become OP as fuck
>now MR25
>forced to actually grind
bros.....
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>>740005762
Elite deep dives/Elite Temporal Archimedes. Missions where you get a choice of gear and have to build a loadout for very high level content while balancing out rewards.
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>>740011353
Just get all the faction weapons and pets that you're missing, that shit is a fuckton of mastery. Probably not enough for 5 levels but still.
MR30 is the last time any of that shit matters anyway.
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>>740009590
Modding is easy.
>Throw a bunch of mods onto a weapon
>See if it does more damage or less damage
>Eventually get an idea for what combinations work best
>Game even shows you damage numbers and a sandbox to test in, and swapping mods around is free
>Repeat until you get a set that does the most damage

The real problem Warframe has is that you have to invest in weapons to make them stronger but gives you no indication to what weapons are actually good. You'll spend resources that a F2P player might earn in a month on a weapon to upgrade it, only to learn that there's some other weapon that's ten times stronger even before any investment that you could have grabbed in five minutes. That's what you need to search on the internet for, so you don't fuck yourself out of months worth of resources because you didn't know there was something better right around the corner.
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>>740011524
I have some niche weapons that are better as a base model as opposed to the prime, because I rolled a Riven mod that made it incredible and that stacks with an incarnon sometimes.
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>>740011353
>forced to actually grind
translates to
>Didn't read guides/wiki/discord
Warframe is only playable if you know exactly what to get with your first initial freebies then use those to braindead grind for thousands of hours so you can afford everything in the auction market for "free".
If you've wasted your free stuff, it's much faster to restart with a new account than to grind to catch up. Or just $$$$.
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i dont play this game but i saw that creative director was talking about making an OF, noice
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>>740011789
idiot
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>>740011524
>Throw a bunch of mods onto a weapon
>See if it does more damage or less damage
>Eventually get an idea for what combinations work best
that's such a fucking boring way to figure shit out though
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how 2 cheese fortuna standing?
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>>740013238
Fastest way for me was to hand shittokens to ticker

Hoard tge higher tier ones you need quite a few for rank ups
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>>740013238
leech the profit taker
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>>740013238
this but for ventkids
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>>740013347
Can you leech without being at max rank so you can even start the orb heist?
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>>740005074
Notice how most of the people shitting on the game are players with 2000+ hours who optimized the fun out of the game.
Enjoy the game without the Wiki. Desensitize yourself to the grind on your own terms.
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>>740013672
>plat, plat, loads of plat
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>>740013672
How do you optimize the fun out of the game when the real fun is having multiple optimized cokehead builds.
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>>740013197
Then just copy someone else's build on the internet. If you can't experiment and figure things for yourself, but also think looking up the solution on the internet is wrong for whatever reason, then you're basically just asking for the game to remove these mechanics entirely and just force a gun into your hands so you don't have to think at all.
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>>740005074
Is this the closest I’ll get to a Star Wars game now that Disney fucked up?
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>>740011524
For meta builds I often check Overframe, find the weapon or frame I wanna optimize, IGNORE 99.9999% OF THE BUILDS, then find Ninjase's build because that guy is the only reliable build/guide poster I've seen and he has an updated build for nearly everything (autistic math user).
For meme builds I either fuck around or find stuff on youtube.
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>>740010367
It tells you on the stats screen you retard
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I played it for a while years ago. But it was completely impenetrable. I had no idea how to progress, what was good, what was new, what was outdated, how anything worked, whether anything was a waste of time, nothing.

Also the story made no sense and then I was a real person and not a robot, but I had no idea why I would want to turn into a normal person instead of being the robot so I'm not sure what that mechanic was for either. And I seem to recall someone with longfingers playing chess out of nowhere, which was never explained.

Dwarf Fortress, Path of Exile, La Mulana, none of them anywhere near as confusing as Warframe. And that was years ago. So by now I imagine it's like reaching into a black hole.
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>>740014486
So the main thing you want to do initially is unlock the various worlds

There is a "bridge" node or two on each planet which unlocks the next one, this should be your main goal until you have completed every node on the map

As for the story it gets even more retarded than spacekids as it goes on and i just ignore it to be honest
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>>740011789
Thats not true, it can be a pain tho
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>>740013238
fishing or mining
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>>740014486
>I had no idea how to progress
This is definitely the biggest hurdle for people when it comes to Warframe, but the thing is that it's a hurdle that only really exists mentally.

The thing is that Warframe is a game with like 10000 different things to do, but no matter what you're doing, you're basically progressing in SOME way. Every minute you play the game is giving you resources, or upgrading or leveling something. By the end of the game there's pretty much a reason to have progression in everything. There's basically nothing you can do that DOESN'T give you some sort of progress that you might want eventually.

The problem though is that Warframe is both a pseudo "MMORPG" and a F2P game with p2w microtransactions (Not going to argue about how good/bad they really are. Any new player will assume it's p2w on sight). These are two factors that severely pressure players into wanting to play optimally and progress as fast as possible.
MMORPG games have conditioned players into thinking that there's always a more optimal path of least resistance, and there's always this fear of "Being left behind" because you didn't realize the game made some crappy worthless content useless years ago and the new hotness is some super fast easy leveling route the devs made for new players.
Being F2P with microtransactions make things even worse, because now money is involved. Now if you're doing things "unoptimally", like heaven forbid you spend your in game items on a character or weapon that isn't good, it's a major hurdle. Investing resources into a wasted project in a normal game might make you waste a few hours of your time, but doing the same might put you back literal months in a F2P p2w game because the only way to get those items back is either paying real money or waiting for weekly/monthly handouts.

So yeah anon, I don't blame you at all. I think Warframe being inapproachable is mostly just a mental thing, but it's an understandable knee jerk reaction.
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>>740007886
and the sky is purple
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>>740014450
cause I'm going to check the stats screen for every single gun from the 600 or so weapons in the game
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>>740005074
Are there any male gooner skins?
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>>740016201
faggot
seconding this
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>>740015972
Oh so you're a minmax fag who just wants the best and you don't want to bother trying every weapon you can
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I for one welcome our fem-gooner dev overlords
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>>740016704
>Oh so you're a minmax fag who just wants the best
where do you think you are?
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internet died before it was complete
round 3
fight
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I'm just here for the frame cosplays
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>>740005074
>10yo f2p gatcha grind slop
Saar!
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>>740015972
The stats are displayed right there when you click on any weapon, retard. Do you also start asking people for prices while shopping when the price tag is next to the fucking thing?
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>>740016812

>rebb types like a channer on twitter
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>>740005762
Shitposting on the official forums and farming reactions
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>>740019852
do you know what gacha means
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>>740010367
He's just going to keep insisting he doesn't need whatever you say because his self esteem comes from looking down on people who don't make things harder than they need to be.
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>>740020096
gacha to reply
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>>740020003
She probably shitposts on /wfg/.
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>>740020269
Being so desperate for attention that you need to trick people into replying to you isn't a win, it's pathetic.
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>>740020317
someone said they had proof years ago
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>>740005074
Isn't this game for faggots, lmao? The first thing I found on google about this game was whether it's lgbt friendly or not, instead of anything about the actual gameplay
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>>740020575
Fags ask that about everything because they're afraid they'll be run off the moment they announce their entire personality is based on them taking it up the ass
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>>740005074
The only flaw of that game is that it doesn't play like Ninja Gaiden.
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When's the wallrun update.
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>>740020906
neva

they said it somewhee
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>>740021772
Damn, I guess the tilesets are way too shit for old wallrunning. Surely they'll try again eventually.
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Why should I bother with this game when I have to grind out the entire main story for the spider lady warframe?
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>>740005074
Yeah but I'm poor so only have one frame
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>>740020575
yeah anon it's stricly for fags only
never play the game dude, you will turn gay too
dead serious, stay way from this game it's full of gay men
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>>740022076
fucking faggots, ruining our games
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>>740022136
Do you have any Saryn webms?
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>>740021991
gameplay is a well timed dopamine loop
and it's fun to collect bionicles-with-tits
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>>740022292
I get that, but why play when the bionicle with tits I want is locked behind endgame? Unless the story doesn't take long to do it seems like a bit of a pain.
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>>740005074
i played this for a while but then i realized i don't even have to kill any of enemies i just run to objective and then to the exit. the enemies are a complete non-threat.
then i quit playing.
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Usually I only log on to WF to check on Baro, barely complete Nigwave and do the new content.
Follie's Hunt broke me. I couldn't do more than 3 missions without getting disgusted of it. It's just so incredibly boring.
Warframe's mind numbing grind's only saving grace is being able to kill hundreds of enemies, which gives you some satisfaction. Take it away, and it's just pure grind with no fun.
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>>740022362
because the other boobonicles are good too
do you skip all games because they have endgame content?
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>>740013197
It's not that we "can't" do it, it's that doing it that way is shitty design and can be done so much better without wasting everyone's time.
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>>740022664
>>740014019

Wrong quote
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>>740022401
But how are you going to get your Laconian Deltoids needed to craft the Chippydippy Prime Trigger?
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>>740022237
nmaybe.
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>>740023021
I havent played since just before that 1999 update, dont jumpscare me like that
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>>740011524
>and swapping mods around is free
did they ditch having to re-level weapon after applying forms?
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>>740020575
The most heterosexual game currently on the market, and you're upset that Canadians have to bend the knee to their kike overlords?
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>>740022401
bro it's a power fantasy you fucking retard
would you rather have bullet sponges like borderlands and destiny?
you play warframe to delete entire rooms with one mouse click
not to masturbate at the idea of clearing X raid with Y weapons buffed by Z patch after grinding the perfect roll for 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999 vigintillion years
the main loop of the game is to combo so many mods together you break the game either with speed, damage, ability spam, or all 3 combined.
weapons dont even matter anymore, you will never fire a bullet with certain pure ability builds.
https://litter.catbox.moe/fygdu7.mp4
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>>740022401
>>740024151
>b-but people are always speedrunning missions!!!
because outside the first 100-200 hours of honeymoon where you are exploring around all the tilesets looking at props and searching for the cute hidden stashes\secret rooms, time is the real currency of warframe.
instantly killing\completing the main objective as fastest as possible is how you grind for every single blueprint in the game, or how you grind for certain materials.
caches, resource nodes, and containers become useless destructible props, and enemies become stage hazards\enviromental critters.
https://litter.catbox.moe/pkxc6e.webm
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>>740022013
>he spent his starter plat on anything but slots
lmao
That's like tip #1
Plus raising 20p is easy at any level. Go sell some prime junk to people who need ducats when Baro is around and you can make that in 15 minutes.

ALL frames and weapons can be obtained by playing the game. It's the slots that requires money. You should never spend plat on getting weapons and frames.
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>>740005285
lol shut the fuck up, the game doesn't explain anything properly
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>>740023436
Only for MR30s
And even then technically you have to level it, the weapon just has full capacity even at level 0.
But 99% of weapons are immediately understandable just from the stats screen. There are almost no weapons that you can't immediately know is or isn't going to be good from the very visible stats you can see before you even build it. So you shouldn't be confused whether to invest in something unless you have the pattern recognition of a snail.
Also just wiki something or check some fag's tierlist. Warframe should not be played blind. Doing so is a meme and a disservice to yourself.
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>>740005074
They sorta lost me with the obese black woman frame update, the major update was kinda disappointing outside of Uriel.
Whats this upcoming update about and have the dropped the new gooner skins yet/ any better skins for Yareli?
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>>740005074
I liked it at 500 hours
Now at a 1000 hours, I feel like I've played over its welcome. Which is not the game's fault, I just overate.
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>>740008289
This. You are a B-tier frame, if you cannot use 2 buttons to blow up half the map, and it is not really fun.
So you try to engage with the game, and pick frames that have synergy, and use the weapons, then some asshole blazes past you, and kills 30 enemies you were fighting.
>but play solo
I can't, I am devoured by the Skinner Box, and I need to keep up my grinding efficiency to get Mastery 30.
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>>740027082
fuck off shes pretty
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>>740028415
sniff
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>game panders to trannies
no thanks
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>>740005762
The same as midgame. Or startgame. Begingame...? What's the word for the beginning of the game of Endgame marks the "end"?
The closest we have is EDA/ETA, which is a "hard" game mode where you are restricted to random shit and have to build the weapon/frame yourself before you can start the mission, and they give you some modifiers for the mission. It's almost all negatives and either annoying or completely irrelevant because the balancing of the game is fucked. You're also limited to two runs per week.
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>>740005285
lmaoooo
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>>740005074

>Complex
Nah.
>Too reliant on the wiki
Agree. You kind of need to use it to figure out where everything drops from (relics, missions, etc.)
>Do you guys like Warframe?
I played it a lot in the past but blasting through every mission 1 tapping packs got really boring and I don't fancy collecting every new set that comes out.
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>>740013672
You know what'd be nice. Actually fixing the old stuff. Im not interested in the grind.
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>>740029652
>blasting through every mission 1 tapping packs got really boring
faggot faggot faggot FAGGOT FAGGOT FAAAGGGOOOOOOOOTTTTTTT
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>>740028415
For about half a second I thought you were being genuine lmao
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>>740029980
retard
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>>740005074
>fun
It makes Dynasty Warriors look like a challenging and engaging game. The majority of frames obliterate entire tilesets with a couple button presses all the way up through EDA, and a good number through level cap. It has zero depth whatsoever once you finish grinding the good mods.
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>>740015138
I think the creation of a "Essentials" guide that goes like "So your hitting level 50 content, here is the minimum of what you need to keep up (Using Forma, fully leveling your mods, and if they are playing a more caster frame what corrupted mods to get from Vaults).
And have the guide take them up to the Arbitrations and what the important arcanes like Molt, Influence, and Persistence they should be grinding if able.
Because there isn't that much thats completly needed till Steel Path and if your willing to tell them about stuff like the benefits on subsuming Roar to boost damage and to focus on Madurai to brute force Operator content with a only a Gilded 111 and it gets even easier.
Then everything after is just extra power.
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>>740029931
Here's your gameplay bro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNK4VKeoBM
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>>740027484
>wants grind efficiency
>doesn't want to build for grind efficiency
The solution is quite simple.
Play at an appropriate power level for the grind. Build your ooga booga frame for maximum kill efficiency when you're doing SP Cascades or whatever. And build for fun when you're just off grabbing orokin cells or wherever.

This is not hard but faggots with zero self control will always bring their giganigga frames to level 30 content and ruin their own fun
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>>740013672
I can't optimize the fun out because optimized Gauss is fun.
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Are Nova and Nyx fun?
I'm a newbab and just got enough plat to afford a new slot, those are the two I've been eyeballing.
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>>740038049
Nova is very fun if you like making rooms explode and making portal and is meta.
Nyx is very fun if you like mind controling a dude and having him fight for you but is also not meta.
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>>740005074
You don't need the wiki, you can ask where to find stuff in chat and a bot will tell you. I used YouTube for weapon modding though since it was more complicated than modding frames.
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>>740038049
Nova basically makes Defense missions good since she speeds up everything into bombs
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>>740038049
Between the two, I'd recommend Nova. Portals are somewhat redundant, but fun to bust out every now and then. Her slow moving grenade ball thing is fun to use and can do absurd amounts of damage. And 4 is always useful to have. She has an easy to use DR ability, so she can tank quite a bit. It's supposed to work in tandem with the grenade and portal, but it doesn't work out like that.
Nyx is okay. She can't die and that's about it. her Mindcontrolled AI are stupid, ineffective, and made worse because they constantly teleport to you as you move, so even if you're in a defensive position, if you move a bit too much, it pops beside you and finds a new target with pathetic amounts of damage. If its a melee unit, they can't even reach the enemy because they'll move too far from you.
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>>740038560
>inb4
You can increase the amount of damage your mindcontrolled AI does with Strength and also wailing on them, but the damage is still pitiful.
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saw the next update news on steam. what's gonna happen to the equinox protoframes?
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>>740005074
It's a game for faggots.
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>>740038560
Her theme and gimmick sounded cool so that's a shame about Nyx. Nova it is then.
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>>740038560
>>740039117
yeah basically
nyx is fine but very dated
nova is one of the strongest frames in the game
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>>740020575
>The first thing I found on google about this game was whether it's lgbt friendly or not
You're on a website with an /lgbt/ board and three different gay porn boards browsing a catalog where dudes make threads just to ERP with each other and you're saying a game is for fags because your google results, curated for you, immediately showed you whether or not it was friendly to fags.
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>>740039654
Fucking based.
Tell him /gg/ sister.
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>>740038049
Nova is not only really strong she's useful everywhere even in objective modes and her abilities scale well. You just need to know how to use them. DO NOT SLOW DOWN DEFENSE WAVES, SPEED THEM UP BECAUSE DEFENSE HAS A FINITE NUMBER OF ENEMIES PER WAVE SO GETTING THEM TO THE MIDDLE MAKES IT GO FASTER. If it's a mode where you just have to wait for a timer then feel free to slow.
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>>740038524
You don't need the wiki but you absolutely SHOULD use it
I don't understand the resistance to it. Its well curated, well written and mostly up to date across the board. They even moved off fandom cancer.
Why would you deny yourself a source of important information? The only argument against it is that it should be integrated into the game at this point.
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>>740005074
I'd like it more if most of the missions weren't solved in literal seconds due to the other 2 speedrunner team mates in the squad
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>>740039918
you do know you can play solo, right anon?
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>>740022076
>>740022136
Gay men who think they are women. Yes it's a game for fags. No one thinks about or talks about Warframe in almost a decade except your faggy little 4chan threads and whoever is left playing (no one normal). Warframe is a dead game on life support from it's addicted niche audience and is culturally irrelevant.
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>>740040079
lol
lmao
rofl even
come on buddy, move the goalposts now please
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>>740038793
Protoframes are of Garuda and Ashe.
The new Equinox 2.0 frame is the grown up Stalker and Jades kid from 2 different timelines. ETERNALISM!
Ashe and Garuda raised the respective kid in their own timelines. We don't know why they're in our timeline now yet, quest will tell us presumably.

Equinox 2.0 is Sirius AND Orion.
Tap ability to cast it, hold to swap between them and cast it (swap is fast as fuck). They each have different 1 2 3 abilities. Whichever one you're not using at that second is a better Wuclone with all your gear (and I think cast their abilities). When you cast 4 they fight and "clash" together in an anime as fuck thing causing explosions. Every time you swap you build up a counter and you get that many "clashes" before the 4 is over.

Kinda neat kit but numbers need to be there or it'll suck.
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>>740040249
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO IF IT CANT CLEAR SP WITH ONLY A DEFAULT LATO ON DAY 1 THEN IT'S DOOODOOOOOOO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA REBB SAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>740040249
fuck man, i was really hoping protoframes was a one and done gimmick but it seems like they're here to stay, and now they're designing kits around the concept of protoframes, stepping over the toes of existing concepts (equinox)
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>>740040441
They showed off the kit against level 20 plains enemies. We have no idea if any of their abilities are good enough to do even level 100 content, let alone SP.
They have all the right ingredients to be good, DR ability, big AoE, a couple different elements and a CC, but again, numbers matter in the number minmaxing game.
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>>740040249
If I can play with my girlwife nightquinox nuking rooms while my boywife dayknox wipes everything with my torid as a clone I'll reinstall.
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>>740040575
>and now they're designing kits around the concept of protoframes
Hmmm?
I don't think you understand
The protoframes are Ashe and Garuda. We don't know why or how they got turned yet. They are completely separate from the new Frame(s). Except story.
Sirius and Orion aren't protoframes. You play them both at the same time. They're regular warframes don't have a humanoid form at all.

Also I need to keep mentioning it because people who haven't played since Protoframes were introduced or who didn't pay attention during the quest don't seem to get it. Protoframes are not the original versions of frames. They're separated entirely from the origin and lore of the frame they are based on. Essentialy Entrati goes galivanting through time like Dr Who and infects randoms with the Helminth strains of existing warframes and if they're compatible they turn into a hybrid Warframe/Person. This is completely different from how normal frames were made and has no bearing on the frames you make in your foundry.
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hold on a second is equinox getting the orion and sirius bullshit or are we talking about 2 different things
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>>740040767
>>740040249
Fuckign faggot theres no equinox 2.0 just some faggot new warframe fuck you fuck you fuck you and kill yourself fuck you
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>>740038793
>>740040575
is this an AI or what?
there is no equinox protoframe.
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>>740041032
Equinox isn't getting changed. They are exactly the same as they've been for like a decade.

Someone is very confused about Sirius and Orion. A lot of people were calling them Equinox 2.0 because they have a similar core identity (2 frames as one) but they are two completely different frames and kits.
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why did they make sirius and orion the same as equinox
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>>740041227
Kits aren't even remotely similar.
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>>740005285
The only time I needed a wiki was to understand how to trigger a Lich.
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>>740005285
Finding which (mirror) Defense/Survival/Alchemy/Disruption/Excavation/Interceptions/Defection/Sabotage/Zariman Missions you need to run to what extent to get what Weapon parts, Warframe parts, Companion parts, or Relics needed to use anything other than your starter Warframe and weapon.
>>740005762
The same thing you've been doing all game. But like +100 levels harder. Grind.
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>>740010282
The game never explains that the order of your mods also affects how they link and function in certain situations. Not even in their newer tutorial for it. Hell, anyone not a veteran in the game probably doesn't realize that here.
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The gayest game ever made
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>>740017998
oh hello
>wisp
>mirage
>dante
>nova
>reb
>mesa
>dagath
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I won't play until they actually make Oberon good.
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mesa hierloom no longer in June....
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>>740040079
TFD lost buddy
cope more
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>>740013238
do (proper) conservation. perfectly captured kubrodon incarnadine is 8k standing.
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>>740043437
this, can't believe it took so many answers that were wrong before the right one showed up. You can max out standing in 10 mins or less with captures
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>>740042940
oberon got a rework last year and is good
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my only real complaint is the protoframes - they were fine in 1999, but at this point they're way too obvious of a cash grab that the devs are barely even trying to justify
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>>740013238
I just did a bunch of mining. After finishing it I wish I could side with Nef and play soccer with these faggots heads. Fucking pointless daily caps like I'm playing a god damned gacha game.
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>>740043610
you're gonna really hate what comes next then....
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>>740034803
>Play at an appropriate power level for the grind.
>Devs are too incompetent to create genuinely engaging and balanced content so (You) the player need to limit yourself to do they job they should've done for you
fuck off DE dickrider
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>>740042448
Are you going to post any more?
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>>740013238
you can also fish here, it has broken spawns
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>my main is a pajeeta
pain
suffering even
agony if you will
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>>740041223
Equinox has been officially classified as a Zelda-Sheik situation as to nto step on the new guys toes, so no more 2 as 1 fuckery allowed.
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>my main is a brown twink
pleasure
happiness even
bliss if you will
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>>740044439
that was always the case
equinox is one frame with two forms
orion and sirius are two different frames
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>>740044545
Dude he's a jeet as well.
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>>740009590
Modding is easy enough to understand. Take a look at a guns base stats at level 30 with a tater on it. That's what you're working with. Slap on some forma to make your mandatory mods fit for half price. Build for crit or effect. Best effects are slash and viral. Slap on a multishot mod, a cold mod, a toxin mod, and that should get you the basics. To go further you want corrupted mods or nightmare mods.
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>>740044545
Technically they injected your main into a brown twink
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>>740005074
the horrible updates after 1999 made me lose any hope for this game
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>>740020575
it's one of those games the gays and trannies are trying to co-opt, don't listen to any of that
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>>740044305
Always was.
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Did you name him Sirius or Orion?
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>>740020003
>types like a channer
>like a
Reb has been proven to post in /wfg/ in the past. She IS a channer, she IS a gooner, and she IS a complete shota-sucking degenerate pedophile.
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>>740016812
is there a single time she has appeared on camera without being lewd? i love her so much vros
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>>740005074
Nah, this shit is woke as fuck.
I don't care about woke games
It will die just like Destiny 2. Woke creators cannot into gaming
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>>740049487
>vodka runes
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>>740028415
Indiaframe.
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>>740049487
I dropped the game when they added pregnant warframes and romance bs.
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>>740044305
One aspect of this game I thought was great, was that despite the fag flags being raised, they couldn't shoehorn ugly, brownoid, faggy characters into the game outside of npcs (which already looked that way since the beginning because their game engine sucks)

Giving warframes faces, now they will be going back and making all of your frames look like picrel. 1999 was both cool and a curse
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>>740049330
Whichever the green option was, cause fuck Stalker, he a bitch.
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>>740049516
it's still true and I'm not that anon.
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>>740049487
cyka blyat comrade
>>740049706
>doesn't want to romance the asian cutie in 1999 and the FAT-ASSED french nun in la cathedrale
HE HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED
THE GAYEST POSTER ON /V/
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Tencent shill thread
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>>740049330
Orion, because I thought it was pronounced as "Or - Ee - Un", not fucking "Oh - Ryan". Dumb name. But Sirius is equally dumb since its just "Serious".
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Primed mods were a mistake.
Galvanized mods were a mistake.
Corrupted mods were a mistake.
Amalgam mods were a mistake.
Riven mods were a mistake.
Archon mods were a mistake.
Umbra mods were a mistake.
Nightmare mods were a mistake.
Conditional mods were a mistake.
Sets were a mistake.
Arcanes were a mistake.
Unrestricted, zero cooldown bullet jumps were a mistake.
Prime frames and weapons not just being skins you earned ingame was a mistake.
A fully leveled Redirection should be a coveted endgame item.
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>>740049893
I almost can't believe the levels of coom the developers are putting in sometimes, and they show no signs of stopping. The sales have to be strong.
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>>740049983
Corrupted Mods are a good addition. Not every frame needs all four stats, so having a mod to lower the one not used to boost the one they would makes total sense. All others, I agree with aside from a fully leveled redirection.
But what do you have against Nightmare mods? Aren't they just plain, but rare mods?
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>>740050045
its a miracle they keep going. although the new female frames after khora arent scratching that itch. probably because they are more armor-related than skinsuit
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>>740050353
equinox is the only frame who "needs" all four stats
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>>740005285
You should probably cut your balls off or something, bro
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>>740050618
Ugh don't remind me. The idea of her is fun, but in practice you either forced like 5 of her skills or you get suboptimal as fuck.
I fear Sirius and Orion are gonna kill her off for good.
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>>740049983
>He wants the Destiny experience
gay
lame
gay and lame
Movement and speed is 100% of why Warframe is fun and cool.
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>>740049983
>Less customization
>Slower movement
>Fewer options
I think maybe you should go play something like WoW buddy.
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>>740051164
I will reinstall right now if this is what is going on in relays and I can get one of them back to my ship
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>>740051262
>holding forward and spamming crouch+jump on repeat is THE Warframe experience
Grim
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>>740051486
you can, but it might cost you plat
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>>740049983
>>>/vg/569040150
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>>740051715
>wf prostitutes
Kinda hot. How much for an hour with your thighs?
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>>740051546
>He's never actually engaged with the movement system
Truly any expression of freedom, creativity and skill is the sole domain of the white man
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>>740005074
My three major issues with my game that have never been and likely never will be addressed:
1. The absolute most important issue first: No way to turn off adaptive exposure (dynamic brightness change) or screen flashing blue or red when taking damage
I have to play revenant or an over guard frame just to avoid getting flashbanged anytime an enemy attacks me
2. There's no "whatever you want" build because although it's insanely easy to scale up damage, you can only do so with hyper specific specialized setups that don't really encourage weapon swapping or using self contained builds within each weapon or frame
Closest you can get is some silly chroma build that still has a bunch of issues
3. No true endgame content. You make one OP build and there's really no reason to mix it up unless you're bored. It took them 10 whole years just to add something as basic as steel path and there's real reason to play it
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>>740005074
>do you guys like warframe?
does addiction = good?
>1k+ hours on this account
>similar number on account I deleted because I was so addicted and fucking up my grades

at this point i just like playing with my dolls (both frames and human char), decorating the doll house, fiddling with captura scenes and screen archery
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>>740051486
you can't sit on chairs just go to strata relay 69 and see people dance
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>>740052762
>playing with dolls
You should be my doll
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Too aggressive in their cheat detection. It's a shoot first ask questions later type thing. I had a program open that would read and modify memory values open for something completely different; I was part of a team that would crack DRMs for video games. I forgot I had it open and I opened WF, then got banned a few hours later.
Sure, I appealed but it completely soured my experience with the game. After getting unbanned I played for a bit then lost interest, because I know I would make the same mistake again eventually and they don't do second chances, even when I wasn't cheating on their game.
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>>740053059
just have a script that kills everything else then opens warframe
not hard retard
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>>740053059
that's an incredibly reasonable thing to be banned for retard
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>>740053059
You were incredibly lucky to get unbanned and that type of message. Most companies won't even dignify you with a response stating why you were banned.
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>>740053059
Reminds me of when people would leave Cheat Engine open and then play Counter Strike.
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>>740049983
>Primed mods were a mistake.
I don't get it
>Galvanized mods were a mistake.
It was retarded to add another layer of grinding in order to fix guns instead of just fucking buffing them outright, a lazy fix
>Corrupted mods were a mistake.
Being the literal core of frame modding it's pretty strange that they're in the derelict. Should've been more straightforward to get.
>Amalgam mods were a mistake.
Inconsequential
>Riven mods were a mistake.
Absolutely
>Archon mods were a mistake.
More build variety is...le bad
>Umbra mods were a mistake.
Inconsequential
>Nightmare mods were a mistake.
Hammer shot is the only one anyone uses so maybe
>Conditional mods were a mistake.
Skill issue
>Sets were a mistake.
What?
>Arcanes were a mistake.
I liked when they were limited to raids because then it was a cool highly coveted item and nowadays anyone can get the base legendary arcanes
>Unrestricted, zero cooldown bullet jumps were a mistake.
Movement should never have cooldowns in anything
>Prime frames and weapons not just being skins you earned ingame was a mistake.
Why would I not want to grind more in the grinding game?
>A fully leveled Redirection should be a coveted endgame item.
Should be arcanes
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>>740053250
A software shouldn't be able to decide what I can or can't run on my hardware. So I decided not to run their software.

>>740053265
There are other stories of people getting falsely banned. Playing FFXIV with mods can get you banned. Playing while changing your Logitech software settings, like switching to system memory or device memory can get you banned. I think running emulators can get you banned since some emulators read memory.
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>>740053331
You can have a trainer open for any game and it will get you banned. If you want to cheat on a single player game to give yourself unlimited ammo or fly, if you run WF you get banned.
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>>740053392
>A software shouldn't be able to decide what I can or can't run on my hardware.
it can and does
basically all other games will either ban you or refuse to run
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>>740053459
If a game refuses to run when you have a browser open or would actively ban you, would you still play it? If you say yes, then you don't own that device.
The program I had open wasn't targeting WF memory.
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>>740053520
>The program I had open wasn't targeting WF memory.
>the cheating program i had opened wasn't targeting WF
maybe don't run cheating programs when having multiplayer games open anon?
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>>740053520
i don't think you should be banned when having other things open.
but if the company determines that x software can be used for cheating then it should just close/not start and tell you why
if they decide a browser is on this list? that's fine
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>>740053587
Read the original post. It wasn't even a cheating program. And like I said, any software that modifies memory can get you banned.
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>>740052823
not beating the faggotry allegations bro...
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Fine I'll put another 500 hours in this year
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>>740015972
The stats screen comes up with the gun every time you preview it???
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>>740053679
modifying memory is cheating
wtf do you think cheat engine does
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>>740053940
>rhino prime
play mirage instead
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>>740054036
I don't play female frames, or much besides rhino for that matter
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>>740053804
It's okay anon, playing with dolls iis totally fine~
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>>740053990
lol
There are cases where modifying memory isn't cheating. If your mouse supports different profiles and use a software that changes the hotkeys on it, WF treats that as cheating.
If you play a game like Old School RuneScape with the RuneLite launcher in the background, WF thinks that's cheating. Even the act of READING memory, not modifying it, can get you banned.
I'm done with this stupid argument, I have work tomorrow and need sleep.
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>>740049487
Don't make me tell them about your clan Milmo
>>
I fucking hate the Forma grind, it's super fucking retarded and not time/player friendly at all
Why the FUCK do I need to use a Forma to upgrade an overlevel weapon, I should be allowed to restart it without the use of a Forma especially since 95% are trash that are just MR fodder
Formats should be for the weapons/items/companions YOU want to improve and not a forced timesink, it's insane that you're required 5 days to max an overlevel weapon that you'll likely not end up using after you've maxed it.
Also it shouldn't a whole day to craft one, Warframe parts and weapons don't require a full day to craft so neither should Formas.
Fuck the Forma grind
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>>740054886
you're meant to use plat to rush it like everything else
but it's still a retarded system that discourages the use of the resource and experimentation with mods
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>>740054886
>>740055139
You Just gotta get to MR 30 bros, the reward for doing so is that you can just Forma without the weapon resetting and by the time you get there you will have Forma out the ass as a consequence of just playing the game.
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>>740055271
>sitting at MR 23
>currently cooking a five fodder weapons in my foundry to squeak into 24
The reward for 30 sounds nice and all, but I’m going to blow my fucking brains out trying to reach it.
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>>740054886
Why didn't you farm forma during that one event where you could get them infinitely?
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>>740055559
With how much slop they've shoveled out it's not even hard to get to as long as you're constantly running shit with fodder weapons in 2 of your 3 slots and leveling a warframe every now and then
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>>740055271
horrible idea. it takes a long time to get to that point. just play the game. drop a catalyst/reactor in stuff you like that feels strong, put a forma or two in. some stuff comes with one or two polarities out of the box and works great with just a catalyst or reactor
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>>740055579
Recently got back into the game, missed whatever you're talking about.
>DUDE GRIND THIS LIMITED TIME EVE-
no, the Forma grind should not be this terrible and punishing.
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Most weapons only need a forma or two to function properly. It's warframes that tend to eat forma
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>>740055615
I mostly slap in a fodder weapon when doing my dailies, maybe run the odd ESO with Mirage, but it’s just so fucking tedious.
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>>740055759
Don't forget companions, they need just as much Forma as a Warframe if you want those SP effective status/damage results.
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>>740049471
>>740020317
I've given up on Warframe while Steve was still in charge, and have no intention to go back. Still, I respect Rebecca's shamelessness. From what I heard, the instant she was put in charge the game began to see immediate improvements and a huge surge in fanservice.
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>>740055617
Really there is no reason to not just run prime weapons and gear as your Main loadout by the time your on the second half of the Star Chart
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>>740056523
>no reason
MR/Helminth fodder is what all standard versions are for.
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>>740056696
Yeah you grind those for mastery but if you want to build for progression your best path is to get a Cedo Prime and the like and let that become the "wall breaker" loadout.
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>>740051164
Now show the tennocon guest that goes with these warframes
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>>740057437
Probably some of the Femboys that the one anon on /efg/ grooms for Tennocon pump & dumps and then blocks afterwards.



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