Poorfags filteredVideo games are going to be great again.
Roblox
It won't be so great once you will run first game that will run at sub 60fps at 480p (fsr3 on). While it would run better on base ps5 for less than half the price. Totally worth paying $1000 to own the poor right?
They could've won over people's hearts by selling them at a loss (it's fucking valve, they can tank it)Now it's just going to fail
>>740010324The delusion
>>740010293What is happening in Asia?
>$1,000>Still no Half-Life 3A poor nigger's sacrifice is useless
>>740010216Surely /v/alveginas adopting the PS3 defense will help this unflop, right bros?
i feel like at that price point i would feel instant buyers remorse buying the steam cube over just building my own pc
>>740010382why does everyone think valve is made of moneythey only make 30% off every game sold, and the counter strike money isn't even that muchthey can't afford to sell at a loss
>it flops thanks to the stupid price>gaben says "since it flopped no half life 3 for you"we know how retarded game devs are
>>740010216I shan't purchase one. Steam Frame maybe, but otherwise? I will stick with muh 'eck.
>>740010216>1k for something that's worse than PS5/Xboxwhat's the fucking point then? can you pirate with it ? if the answer is NO, is a waste of money>b-but muh playing on the coachconnect a cable to your PC from your TV and call it a day
lol what happened to steam being an "infinite money machine"? that fat fuck really played soillenial retards out of their money
yes i'm sure the 10,000 people buying a steam machine wiill change gaming
hardware has been getting only more expensive and games more shittier and closet to mobile levels of jewerfaggotry
No doubt some people will still buy it but I don't see why.It's a miniITX build with low specs. They put gimmicks on top that it doesn't need. Why the fuck would you need an LED progress bar? Who cares about this gay shit?Games dislike 8GB VRAM and no, no amount of linux bullshittery (I know there's a tweak for 7.0) is going to make it that much more bearable. And Valve doesn't have a great track record at convincing third parties selling through their store to support their hardware. Squeenix released a trailer for FFVII Rebirth on the Deck and then the game came out, not only was it barely playable performance wise, it was glitchy and needed updates. If someone bothering to put out a big fucking ad for the console isn't doing anything and the status of anti-cheat software is what it is still, with EA even going as far as to actually pull out of existing working solutions rather than give support to linux, I cannot expect any level of proper optimization on newer titles for this machine. They'll act like batman lego developers and tell you that it's completely reasonable to run the game with framegen at 30fps. Because of the high price there won't be enough customers (I mean at least the deck had this "PC gaming on the go" going for it, what does this even have) so there's no reason to support the platform.I think this is the most pointless shit ever. I'm not even kidding when I say that their Steam Frame is likely to be more successful.
>>740010704>what's the fucking point then?It's basically a portable computer. Portable in the sense that you can easily move it around.That's it.From what I understand, Valve believes that if it offers a computer compact enough for people to easily set up anywhere, some consumers will get used to using a computer instead of a console in places like the living room, which is good for Valve because it wants to sell more games.
>>740010324This is what consolefags actually believe, meanwhile the ps5 literally runs the new 007 game at 720p with fsr3 upscaling.
>>740010216No one cares about gaben cube or steamy controller no one. It's the frame that actually can have a market impact simply by not being locked to Facebook
Cloud-based subscription services are gonna be the default in the next few years.You think it's bad with RAM right now? Mark my words the market will inflate disk storage soon too.The whites (not just jews) want everyone to be dependent on their platforms with a constant revenue stream that they can charge high enough that the average trumptard can afford (leaving out other necessities like travel, leisure and education), but low enough that the average trumptard won't find the balls to revolt.This is our future. And it cannot be overstated how much the cuck whites and their jewish enablers are to blame for this.
>>740010216KWABOTY
>>740011146No they won't because having 300ms delay on single player games will never be acceptable to anyoneGoogle fucking stadia you moron
>>740010324>SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY PEE
>>740010216the interesting thing is it won't flopthey simply wont produce enough to have shelf warmers so the only ones buying them are reviewers, hobbyists and scalpers but because the volume is so low it'll be fine
>>740011146Soon?
>>740010612>they made 1000 and sold all 1000, it’s the hottest selling piece of hardware ever!At least they don’t have the whole “NO GAEMS” thing working against them.
>>740010475All pedophiles go there to avoid arrests.
>>740011224What makes you think that people aren't using streaming services right now?All they have to do is lower prices a bit here, offer an exclusive there and convince people it's just way too fucking impractical to run games on local hardware and promise some placebo bullshit for "low latency" "frame prediction" or whatever. And a good chunk of games are so cinematic, so sluggish that the average normalfag doesn't even notice the delay. Google did it poorly because they expected everyone to invest in a platform without having a cult following, pay a subscription -and- pay for the games as well. There was no incentive and hardware was cheaper anyways. These companies are willing to try and fail and try again until they get to dick you if they really want something. And getting cloud gaming to replace local gaming is beneficial for them.
>>740011146>Mark my words the market will inflate disk storage soon too.Storage prices are already inflated. Both for SSDs and HDDs.But streaming vidya us fundamentally unfeasible and impractical for almost all people, it's a completely different technical challenge from streaming music or videos. You can't buffer ahead, it consumes massive amounts of bandwidth and most people have neither the connection speeds nor a reliable enough router & network adaptor to play without constant or intermittent dropouts.
Ahaha, magnificent.
>>740011068they already exist and are called Mini-ITX pc's, half the size(or even smaller) of a normal pc with almost the same power, if you want to go further you can buy a shitty SFF(small form factor ) PC who's a little bigger than a keyboard
>>740010216They shouldn't release it then.This shit is gonna bomb badly at that price point.
>>740011126Note how you said the same. You'll get worse graphics by paying twice as much on PC.
>>740010216Meanwhile you can install Linux and play Steam games on a PS5 kek
>>740011224Stadia only failed because Google was retarded enough to complete with Sony, Microsoft and even Steam and Epic.If they had waited for the market to get rekt post-covid they would still exist today Sony & Microsoft already have their own cloud services and they've been trying to undercut physical games since Don MatrickNow we'll probably get some China-based service.>>740011972Broadband has improved with 500mbps - 1gbps actually being affordable for a standard household.No one outside of autismos want to tinker with performance settings and mods when the concept of "plug-n-play" is lamented by casuals and even classic gamers.
>>740012206You constructed a retarded hypothetical performance profile for the steam machine to mock it. Meanwhile in reality the PS5 actually performs the way you think the steam machine will perform.It's pretty funny actually.
>>740012076It is not the same because it is still now retard proof, still not wakes up from sleep with the controller and uses CEC properly etc. The average PC is still not the same, especially if you need to put it together. There is a reason why gaming laptops got more and more popular and why scam prebuilts exist. The average joe don't want to put together their shit, worry about compatibility and troubleshoot why something doesn't work. The point of the Machine is (was) people rather put up with a weak system and possibly pay more (not double) for convenience. Deck was also popular because it is ready to play out of the box.If your argument boils down to "you can build something SIMILAR (not the same) for less" you miss the point of the entire thing.
>>740012478There is nothing hypothetical about the fact the PS5 plays multiplayer games (you know the games that are on the top on every popularity list every month everywhere) and the Machine doesn't because of anti cheat. Linus already tested Cyberpunk and it was less than stellar with upscaling. So don't play this "lol consoles upscale from sub 1080p" because it is mandatory on PCs too.
>>740010216>Poorfags filtered, Video games are going to be great again.This, I have yet to see a genuine argument against the Steam Machine that isn't another variation of 'I don't have the money to buy it, so it's bad'.
>>740012409>Sony & Microslop already have their own cloud services And they both suck ass. SONY can't even get streaming from a PS5 to a PC working well enough, on a LAN, it's insane. I also play with a friend using Sunshine/Moonlight, he's about 150km away, we both have fast broadband, home sysadmin tier routers, just 7ms ping and 3-4ms encoding latency. Despite the high bandwidth and absolutely ideal conditions and the video quality and latency is still nowhere near the same level as playing locally even on a console and occasionally there are dropouts and hitches. It's a flawed idea on a technical level and monetising it isn't going to be easy.
>>740012739The steam machine will have FSR 4 on the OS level, which you don't on PS5. And we were talking about performance and image quality, not whether you'll be able to play Fortnite or whatever, stop moving the goalposts.
>>740013106I need to see an argument that's pro steam machine. Why would I want it over a regular PC?
lads I do apologize but since this thread IS valve related, does anyone have that pic of tim sweeney kneeling next to a toilet, or him being in a bathroom I cant find it but I know I've seen it posted on this website before
>>740013394>It's small and probably will be very quiet and power efficient like a console. >HDMI CEC support out of the box. >Runs SteamOS instead of Windows 11But there's no killer feature as such. If the prices of components were the same as last year one could at least make an argument that it would be a good secondary device.
>>740013810It's just gonna end up like the previous one at this rate.
>>740012560you can pay a wagie 100 or less to build a pc for you it in less than 2 hours with the windows instalation if you have the components, the pc itself will be better than the Steam machine or consoles because you can use it fore more and you can get almost anything for free (movies, games, music etc), but i guess convenience is better for te average npc
>>740013943It is my personal opinion that Valve missed a golden opportunity to further capitalise on the Steam Deck's success and lay the groundwork for the Steam Machine. They should have released a cheaper home console version of the Deck hardware with a higher TDP - it would have been a bit more powerful, and good enough for local game streaming. Without the screen, battery, controller, speakers etc. it would have been massively cheap and a perfect secondary PC for everyone, but it's too late now.
>pc gaming reaches unjustifyable pricing, everyone moves to console>"haha poorfags filtered">nobody uses your ecosystem anymore>less parts being sold so part manufacturers disappear>less games being sold on your platform so publishers stop bringing games to it>pc gaming back to the way it was before covid>"wtf why is nobody on our platform anymore?!">resume pre-covid era relentless pc port beggingMaster race sure is retarded for people who think they got it all figured out by buying $3000 problem boxes just to emulate old console games
>>740010216wtf I love being poor now?
>>740010216KWAB
>>740010216*buys an shitbox optiplex that runs most of hte same games*Nothing personal, gringo
>>740014528Damn... not even a job fixes these prices!Looks like you'll need a job in tech to keep up with all the new technology now.
>>740010216>anon thinks you are poor if you dont waste your money on a steam machine.Oh no.
Not really. Its seems pretty retarded actually. As game budgets these days are so insanely high that you need a massive install base so how are all those devs and publishers going to make their money back from a small install base?
>>740014776Whales, that's what they keep pushing anyway and failing anyway.I'm glad though, AAA has been absolute dogshit since 2009, this has been a longtime coming. Smaller studios get attention and it's tiime for AAAshits to contract (since they've been dilating for 10 years)
>>740010637they can but why would you be retarded with money. Steam Machine will do very little to drive sales.
>>740013979>convenience is better for te average npcThis is the basis of almost evey business model these days.
>>740013181Of course local >>> cloudMy overall point is the cost of hardware will soon be so ridiculously overpriced the cost of streaming will outweigh it's own faults and expensive hardware.All those faults you mentioned can be overcome with better infrastructure that the techjews will invest in if it means putting stranglehold on the masses.
>>740010216I want to hear snoys talk about how the PS6 will be $600 and the PS handheld will be $350.
>>740010216>>>>>>>>>leaked>just a guess based off deck's new price
>>740010216Can't wait for the internet to go back to what it was in the 90s and early 2000s. No poor people or pajeets.
>>740010216>HOLY FUCK A LEAK>source: we made it uplol>>740010293Loses Money. Roblox is a giant scam.
>>740010216>Video games are going to be great again.No, because you larping poorfags keep buying useless shit for exorbitant prices, thinking that a 1k price tag for a gamecube is considered entry into high society.
>zero exclusives
people seem to forget that valves consumer base is mostly idiots. the amount of people using steam that actually know what a file system is is like, 5%, tops. designing the steam machine to be some sort of tinkerers playtoy with any sort of set up involved would be like valve making a hardcore racing simulation steering wheel set up...for the... zero point zero three percent of gamers who actually do simulation racing. of course the steam machine isnt going to be interesting or useful to anyone who knows how to build their own computer, its not designed for them. this is for the absolute, bottom of the barrel, plug and play target audience.on top of that, valve doesnt actually care if the machine succeeds, it could be outclassed tomorrow by some other companies design. if nintendo tomorrow comes out with a mini-itx that gets their consumers panties wet, and everyone buys it, and because its a computer...installs....steam on it, valve wins. same shit with the steamdeck>valve blown the fuck out, the rog ally gigaglopfuck is twice the power at half the price!>what do you put on it>well, steam, of coursefucking laughing all the way to the bank, they released the steamdeck and then multiple companies spent millions doing R@D to make better faster devices just to put a direct line to valves bank accounts on it.>inb4 people think im defending valve or even saying they are good, and not just literally explaining how this shit works in their favor.
Where's the Frame? Who gives a shit about the Steam Machine.
>>740018531infact, id wager the ultimate goal here for the steam machine is to get consumers to wonder "hey, this device is both a console, and a computer. why cant i do this on the ps5 and xbone and switch 2?". then to start thinking "well, i could get a ps5, xbone or switch 2, but this steam machine is both a console, AND a pc, its (to a dumb consumer) two devices in one! the value!"then, (and it wont happen because nintendo/microsoft/sony isnt that dumb), scare the competition into going "hey, wait, you can get steam on the xbox/ps5/switch as well, our consoles are twice the value as well!"then, suddenly, valve doesnt have to do fucking anything, its other companies doing all the work of making better, faster, cheaper console hardware and....slapping yet again, steam, and a direct line to valves bank account, right onto their competitions own hardware.
>>740019138actually it gets even smarter the more i think about it. they dont even need to make a big dent in any of the consoles, just a tiny one, since they are all owned by shareholders who only want to see line go up, and the companies are legally obligated to do what profits the shareholders. all they gotta do is convince a few dumb-asses to fuck their future, chasing next quarters profit.>hey this stock only went up 1% instead of 2% this year, this is valves fault, you gotta get your shit together and make it that 2% this year. put steam on it to improve sales this quarter NOW NOW NOW"and bam its all fucking over, no one will ever want to go back to a console WITHOUT steam, and viola, valve gets a few hundred million devices with that direct line to valves bank account added to their market share
>>740019383FUCK and thats why they are pushing proton and linux so fucking hard because nintendo/sony isnt going to put windows on their device, pay the license to put steam on it, but linux, no license for that.shiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
>>740019138I think your point falls flat when the Steam Machine's going to be $1,000. The normies you are talking about are not going to spend $1,000 on a PC less powerful than a Playstation 5 while having to rebuild their library if they switch ecosystems. The Steam Machine is a consumer device priced at enthusiast levels.
>>740010216>due to Valve's delayANYTHING but blaming the actual people in charge, I'm talking about the damn groups who raised the price of all parts by taking most for themselvesAre they paid to write this or what?
>>740010216Not really but enjoy your indie Linux cube lmao.
>>740019526yeah, i think itll flop because of the price and that the whole original intention was to be some sub-500 buck device, but they will release it anyways, sell out the original run, get some money back and quietly discontinue it. the gears started turning on this project likely before anyone really knew how bad the timing was and its kinda too late for them to back out on releasing something.
>>740012409Stadia failed because they haven't solved FTL communication yet.
>>740014496>pc gaming back to the way it was before covidStop, I can only get so erect.
>>740019724Sam Antitrustman.
4.5 weeks remain before Q3 of 2026. Still no announcement.
>>740012076but dont you get it? this releasing means we will have half life 3! this is why we have to support it like hopeless retards!!!... seriously, i know theres like half of the planet actually thinking like that, and just cant seem to grasp this simple concept: VALVE DOESNT MAKE GAMES ANYMORE! ALL THEIR TALENT ALREADY LEFT THE COMPANY! HL'S LEAD WRITER LEFT! of course the steam machine is a bad idea, and even more given Trump just murdered the computer part market with his tariffs, but the only reason people are still defending it here is because they believe it will magically give them a game that its just its not worth ital and will never give players the answers they have been waiting for so long.
>>740010216At this point, they should just cancel the damn thing. They've failed.
>>740010216Too late, should have tanked the cost and sold it December last year.
>>740010216an i7 without GPU can beat the steam box
It will be $1699 for the 512 version and $1999 for the 2TB. BUT Gabe will give you $1000 steal store credits to spend on games. Source : my ass.
>>740010216>overpriced prebuilt>overpriced prebuilt, Valve
>>740023385I'd put that $1k toward the Frame. Seems like a good deal.
>>740020975So Deadlock and HLX are just figments of our imagination?
>>740010216>high end models of the Steam deck are like $950I'll be surprised if this is under $1500. At this rate, I want to see how much of a tire fire this thing's gonna be. I miss the days when I coped and hoped for $500. Take me the fuck back.
>>740010704>can you pirate with it ?Obviously, but its Linux, so good luck getting most games running in the first placealso: Jesus christ at that .gif, I looked up the vid, that lad looks dead inside
>>740010216is this a good thing or not? if they can not afford it then they will just pivot to entry level laptops
