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It really makes you think, doesn't it?
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>mobile filename
Just so we're clear, this is NOT me. I (the original creator of this image) would NEVER post on a phone. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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A board is not 1 guy
In the case of /v/ I'd wager it's like ten guys
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Define gameplay
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>>740017494
can’t believe this /vr/tard was a phoneposter all along
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>>740017591
/v/ is a dozen real people and three dozen schizos at this point
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I love shmups, and I don't even argue the "gameplay first" bullshit anymore, because a lot of what makes a game good is aesthetic.
Your strawman has failed.
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>>740017702
Ten guys, 50 Indian marketers, and 200 bots.
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Garegga is fun but pretty stressful to play. I made it to the final phase of the last boss yesterday but there's like this lingering anxiousness in me now. I got the same thing when I was learning ketsui. Like I feel like my blood pressure has spiked and it's not letting down.
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>>740017494
The image on the left is from a different era of /v/. Modern /v/ grew up in the mass casualization era.
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/v/ are a bunch of dad gamers that can't handle anything harder than asscreed. Seeing them get assmad over mina is hilarious
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https://youtu.be/IlgBlNmergQ
jesus
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>>740017494
there's Touhou threads all the time though?
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>>740017494
/v/ is all storyfags
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>>740019176
There are plenty of transsexuals in this board, we are all well aware.
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>>740019706
Yeah and they love posting shit like Onimai too
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>>740017645
Can you give a definition of gameplay that includes watching cutscenes and reading dialogue boxes
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OP got bullied off /vr/, who're you fooling bruh, this is your home
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>>740020002
Why are you answering my question with a question? If you can't answer then don't reply.
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>>740017890
A cygni fan, I see
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>>740017494
>"gameplay first"
>look inside
>it's just a shitty topdown bullethell game, aka basically makes your decision for you by throwing patterns of attacks at you that you basically have to memorize and react to with pinpoint accuracy
>the bullets aren't even that fast, they're just so numerous you have no choice but to trial and error them
unironically even vampire survivors slop is more gameplay first than this
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>>740017702
I'm two of those real people and 17 of those schizos, btw.
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>>740017494
>autistically memorize the ONLY way to beat the """"""""""game""""""""" and then do it exactly on one try
Sorry I'm not mentally ill
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>can't discuss games at all any more, it's only schizos
>if I make a shmup thread it will die, but these threads will be up for hours getting bumped off page 10, and no one will talk to you in them if you actually wanna discuss games
>if I post gameplay the usually schizos will start seething and just let the thread die
Worst future
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>>740017494
>most gameplay-first genre
>look inside
>you move a pixel left or right to dodge other pixels
>that's it
lol
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The only good shmups are the momentum based ones where you’re victory chances are 90% determined by if you carried all your upgrades to the end by not getting killed and sent back to your base ship.
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>PvE
>gameplay
lol
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>>740017890
Seriously, hence why the cute 'em up subgenre exists.
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>>740026232
https://youtu.be/RKbNxA1JW0o
This looks easy to you?
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shmups are pretty easy when you turn your monitor sideways.
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>>740025235
this, it's a genre for jobless trannies whose only achievement in life is speedrunning or completing games
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>>740018252
Take a lil break anon
Remember that there's nothing on the line and you're doing this for fun
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>>740025810
That's exactly what it means though, it's just PURE gameplay pushed to 11
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>>740017702
That’s being extremely generous. /v/ is like half a dozen real people and a hundred schizos (most of whom are brown)
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>>740026779
Why are you so obsessed with transsexuals?
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What's your loadout /v/?
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>>740026779
>play arcade game from the 80s when people actually cared about shmups
>eww is that a dad-game? Why aren't you playing a TRANNYBULLET shmup made long after the death of arcades??
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onimai tranny buck broken by ygw for two weeks straight
love to see it
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>>740017494
I can't read Japanese, but the genre is fun. Sadly it's a bit dead. Have you got any good ones I may have missed? I only see people on /v/ talking about 30 year old Japanese ones.
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>>740027663
>Hawk Wind (Missile works too, you don't need the higher missiles too much because)
>Double is extra efficient at taking out enemies above when in closed spaces, and with Options can take care of most stages just fine
>Twin Laser for no particular reason, that or C. Laser, whatever has good boss damage
>Option because I can move them however I want
>Reduce because it's bullshit and danmaku has made me comfortable with having a small hitbox, I love it
>Mega Crush because why not
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shumps are just rhythm games with worse music
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>>740017494
"People" who make the same threads over and over deserve to be slowly tortured to death
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>>740029124
This is a more accurate description of a rail shooter, which is quite literally just extremely low level osu but with graphics on top. Obviously shmups are not like rhythm games, due to hinging on spatial navigation which is not a concept even remotely present in rhythm games.
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>>740027319
I dunno man, when I don't play for a whole day I get extremely depressed
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>>740017494
Seriously how much memorization do these games require? If it’s a lot, why don’t you just play memorization games if you like memorizing so much?
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>>740017494
>he plays video games for the gameplay
I play video games to lord my superior knowledge of storytelling and art history over the plebians without getting called on my bullshit because nobody who actually plays games cares primarily about those elements.
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>>740029871
Outside of certain games it's not really memorization focused, there's just one person shitposting with bait to keep the threads bumped by crying about memo. They're just like any kind of arcade game where as you play you start to learn what the stages are doing and will find yourself prepositioning for things but doing so is not mandatory and doing so will not trivialize the game either.

Hardcore scoring shit in certain games like Dodonpachi where there's chaining require strict memorized routes, and some (mostly older) games will have undodgeable bullshit you have to know is coming ahead of time in later segments, but that's the extent of it.
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>>740030267
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>railchads live in his head rent free
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>>740029708
99.9% of them instantly kill you for moving to the "wrong" part of the screen after the first 2 levels in the same way you get punished for moving your feet too slow in DDR, its all just pattern memorization and then having the physical dexterity to actually do the required inputs in time
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>>740017494
I'm level design first
So a game like this for me, is just meh, I get the point, i have to skillfully dodge the particles that damage me while doing damage to the particles on the screen for a period of 2-3 hours to win the game, but i just dont find that impressive enough.

For me exploring a well designed level handcrafted with good art style and fluid and creative gameplay tools is way more interesting.
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>>740031248
>99.9% of them instantly kill you for moving to the "wrong" part of the screen after the first 2 levels
If this is the experience you're having you must be REALLY bad at shmups

>DDR, its all just pattern memorization
People don't memorize rhythm game charts outside of the gimmicky ones with scroll speed gimmicks. People regularly sightread AAA new IIDX charts. You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about
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Unironically how do you recover from this?
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The most gameplay games are (old) shooters and sport games.
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>>740031406
Shmups are the absolute pinnacle of level design imo, you're genuinely missing out. I was kind of thinking about this the other day, how formations work in Garegga. Like you want to let a certain amount of bombs scroll off screen to make the next power up you pick up give you homing, and theres situations where you can set this up to get it immediately and as a backup, and throughout the game it's presented differently. It's just one small aspect of the game I find really interesting. Like in stage 7 there's a bit right before black heart 2 where you have to scramble to set up 5 bombs on the ground, and there's a hatch on the far side of the screen that'll vomit bullets at you if you get too close, and you have to time it correctly because there's likely additional bombs scrolling off the screen before you make the 5 set, so while its relatively easy you have to scramble to set it up right at the most tense point of the game. It's like a sliding block puzzle in some third person console slop but actually good.
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>>740017494
The gameplay is shit though.
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>>740017494
gook em ups aren't real vidya
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>>740017494
rhythm games are more intense than shmups
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>>740017494
/v/rowns doesnt play games
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>>740032426
They ARE real. As real as it gets. You know, I'm getting to the point where anyone who doesn't play shmups doesn't even register as a human being to me anymore. Certainly not anyone who belongs on a video game board. Leave NOW. Before I really lose my temper.
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>>740017494
Good gameplay-first*
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>>740032553
shut up and post replays
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>>740032591
Again, they have good gameplay. Excellent gameplay even. And the fact that you can't see that outs you as a poseur normal scum. In an ideal world, your best case scenario would be some menial labor job that benefits me, even though you pretty objectively deserve death. Get out.
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Damn anime posters are based...
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>>740017494
the gameplay is bad thoughever
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good gameplay > good story > storyslop > gameplayslop
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>>740017494
/v/ being gameplay-first was like 10 years ago, that's no longer the case.
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>>740033065
Fucking STOP. I'm starting to get angry at these blatant falsehoods getting peddled. I'd say it's by jealous casuals, but really it's more likely the group of angry Anons led by the mods gangstalking me. You probably followed me from the unc thread. Well, harass and bully me all you want. I won't bend to your incessant peasant rage.
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>>740033154
>gameplayslop
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Atmosphere is the most important part of a game.
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>>740033353
Tetris is bad then?
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Shit thread
Shit opinions

Sandbox games are objectively the ultimate gameplay-first genre.

In second place you have real time strategy games like age of empires, beyond all reason, etc.
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>>740033865
Minecraft is just a shit version of vintage story though
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>>740033412
>He doesn’t like Tetris’ atmosphere
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>>740017494
To be honest the most "gameplay first" game would probably be Pong or the digital version of Chess/Mahjong/Solitaire etc. Even Gradius had an artstyle that wasn't 100% gameplay oriented.
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>>740033412
I don't agree with him but the best versions of tetris all have nice atmosphere and aesthethics
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>>740034718
This is actually wrong, the best version of tetris is tetrio because it breaks away from tetris' borked ruleset
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>>740035165
Are you saying tetrio has shit atmosphere and aesthetics then?

>because it breaks away from tetris' borked ruleset
Elaborate, I'm interested seeing as I like TGM for not having any of the guideline bullshit
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>>740035995
>Are you saying tetrio has shit atmosphere and aesthetics then
It's pretty much stripped down to the absolute bare minimum for clarity
>elaborate
Why? This is a shmup thread and thought you were the tetris expert. Surely you aren't running your mouth off about things you know nothing about. This is so common on /v/, it's just moving the goalposts from one thing to the next desperately looking for something to larp about.
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>>740036328
why are you like this
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>>740036845
Breh this is a shmup thread, play a damn shmup
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>>740036865
If you aren't going to elaborate I will take that as you admitting you actually know nothing about tetris or even tetrio specifically and are just making shit up
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>>740036950
Okay cya
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>>740027663
Same as the other guy, except with F. option. Spreading it out to cover the whole screen's height is fun.
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>>740026779
And I would actually argue that speed running normal games is less tranny-coded since at least they are playing games that are normal to begin with and then optimizing within what's allowed and coming up with strategies. In a way it's a based kind of autism.
Bullet hell slop is cringe autism since it requires 0 thought and has no space for creativity
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>>740037680
>shoot 'em up games
>push the system and mechanics to their limits to score as high as possible
>speedrunning
>must adhere to a category decided by a forum boss who didn't develop the game
>entire strategies you spend months grinding can be obsoleted in the blink of an eye when a new skip is found
>people with influence can just make up a category and get it validated so they can still keep their records
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>>740038607
very big difference between shoot em up and touhou tier faggotry bullet hells
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>>740038862
They both have the same fundamental gameplay you stupid nigger. No one who hates Touhou is gonna love Gradius
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>>740038862
Stop fucking contradicting me. I'm here trying to keep one of the only gameplay threads afloat, and you're trying to ruin it with off-topic bullshit. Every thread is like this, and it's not a coincidence. You have already forced most of the old guard out. And now no one can even discuss Garegga with me. You're all disgraceful, and I'm getting sick of it.
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>>740039050
wrong. A good belt scrolling shooter is worth billion bullet hells with 0 choice

it's like comparing literal on-rails shooters with no movement to actual FPSs
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>>740039198
You have ten thousand times more ability to freely move in most bullet hells than Gradius.
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>>740039159
1. By even participating I'm helping your thread
2. Don't be surprise when you post an autist bait genre that people are gonna point out that it's an autist bait genre.

I'd be happy to discuss real games like Silver Surfer and others but sorry if chinkware pixel dodging slop doesn't appeal to almost nobody
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>>740039260
I wish that was true but sadly it's not at all.
I mean not unless you include actual good games like Jamestown in the "bullet hell" category.
But then we may as well call Isaac a bullet hell
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>>740039317
>>>>>>>>silver surfer
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>>740017494
The gameplay has to be GOOD and actually FUN retard. I'm not interested in memorization heavy garbage.
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>>740039159
Get back in my room and continue sucking my cock before I break out the belt.
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>>740039159
Good. Get fucked.
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>>740039389
>play Gradius
>enemy spawner starts walling me
>get instakilled because I don't have space to move my options in and the hitbox is too big to maneuver the gaps
>play cave game
>starting get walled
>just move diagonal up really quickly
>instant five mile gap opens up which you can easily squeeze through with your 1 pixel hitbox
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>>740039397
>durr but le AVGN said it was bad
Newsflash: he does it for comedic purposes. Silver surfer is one of the NES gems.
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>>740039476
>play Gradius
>enjoy it

>play pixel-point-dodge slop
>it sucks

???
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>>740027382
It sucks though
Pure shit is still pure
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MORKY ROCKERS IN THE THREAD TONIGHT
EVERYBODY JUST HAVE A DENSE TIME
AND WE GON MAKE YOU LOSE YOUR CASUAL RPG MECHANICS
EVERYBODY JUST HAVE A MORK TIME
MORKY ROCKERS IN THE THREAD TONIGHT
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>>740039578
>muh avgn
I've played the game you stupid nigger. It's garbage regardless of whatever e-celeb talked about it
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>>740039317
My participation is meaningless because you would keep the thread bumped with fake discussion regardless. And what you call an "autist-bait" genre is what those who enjoy the hobby call "a genre for gamers". This is actually a common tactic to discredit people you're jealous of and raise up your own slop. Make the good thing seem like it's for undesirables while claiming true intellectuals consume the sludge you enjoy. You see it a lot by labelling things as "for transsexuals". It's not gunna work, your attempts are transparent and all you ever do is embarass yourself.
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>>740039441
What do you consider a good game? and dont say some crappy single player game
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>>740039685
>play Gradius
post some replays
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>attempt to discuss an action game like bayonetta or the wonderful 101 on /v/
>it either dies instantly or gets filled with shitposts from a single schizo that drives off all discussion
This twisted board needs to be reset
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>>740040472
this is a shmup thread shut up
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What's the latest in Mork terminology? Last one I heard was "high literacy difficulty"
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>>740017494
Because even good gameplay is boring
What makes a game fun and interesting is always a mixture of aesthetics + music + story
The gameplay just needs to not be annoying enough to detract from these three things.
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>>740017494
>gameplay-first genre
>has next to no gameplay
it's actually impressive
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>>740032832
oh lawd she coming
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>>740040393
X-COM UFO Defense
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>>740035165
Most atmospheric Tetris is the CDI one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBmwU5xkzaE
Best Tetris is TGM 2, because it's an evolution of TGM 1, but hasn't degenerated into the garbage that is TI
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>>740040527
The only shmup threads that get discussion are bait ones like this or thinly veiled Mork threads
I have tried to make shmup thread with no bait and just discussing gameplay and trying to get advice, I've got at most 5 replies
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>>740040765
Hi Eyepatchfag!
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>>740040817
Thanks for proving my point, it's bad enough we have the onimai faggot in these threads who does more posting than playing
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>>740040578
Chess is boring?
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>>740040227
Kek. I've been thinking of lyrics too. CASUAL RPG MECHANICS need to be replaced thougheverbeit.
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>>740040884
>uh bro my pawn can totally just en passant you because uhhhh he can
Meme game with meme rules
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>>740040884
Chess is actually an example of this
If you pick up a shitty chess board with plastic pieces, it is terrible to play, but if you get a nice big wooden one with well-made good-looking pieces, enjoyment shoots up by 1000%, proving that aesthetics alone vastly improve the gameplay
The lack of a story is replaced by the fact that you are interacting with other humans.
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>>740040546
I refuse to stream NG2 MNM so I can talk to super chats only :^)
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>>740017494
We like games with good gameplay
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>>740040578
Lmao this is the exact opposite of the truth. This shit is beyond parody at this point. You should be ashamed. moot would just delete the website if he saw this.
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>>740041214
Nah
There's no gameplay in the world that doesn't get boring after a few hours
Stop coping, anon, it's not healthy
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DO NOT, MY FRIENDS, ENGAGE WITH THE ONIMAI FAG
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>gameplay over graphics any day :)
>ewww is that game realistic? where are the anime children for me to jack off to? 0/10 kusoge
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>>740041214
moot didn't care about video games, i bet he was a filthy casual.
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>>740040873
>we have the onimai faggot
I've made 4 total posts in this thread, it's not my fault you continuously reply to people pretending to be me. Maybe no one's interested in "discussing" (posting box art) le best shmups for the sega genesis. You don't want to discuss gameplay, you don't want to post gameplay, what am I supposed to do lol
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>where are the anime children for me to jack off to? 0/10 kusoge
I say this
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>>740017567
fpbp
closing thread
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>>740041436
Alright fag what shmup are you playing RIGHT NOW and your thoughts on it?
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>>740017494
Q3A is more gameplay first than any shmup
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>eyepatchfaggot still bitching about onimaiGOD
*sigh*
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>wanted to 1cc raystorm
>no extends
I kneel Taito-sama, I don't have the strength
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>>740041214
Moot would Jim Profit your ass if he saw you, don't kid yourself.
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>>740041578
Who the fuck are you talking about?
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>>740041545
I'm playing garegga and I've already said multiple things about garegga. Now I am making dinner and then I'm gunna take a nap, because I genuinely do feel off today. And then I'll probably play garegga.
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>>740041837
>making dinner
>9:23am
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>>740041545
Why bother? You are not at all interested in a legit discussion. No matter what I say or do, you're just gunna shit on me and try to throw me out of the thread. I know your modus operandi, you can't fool me. Leave. You are taking up valuable space real players could use a LOT more than you.
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How to make Under Defeat click? It feels just really weird
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>>740041863
>ask a simple question about what shmup you're playing
>you refuse to answer
Thanks for proving my point about you don't play
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>you have to play the first 5 minutes for 500 hours before you can play the 6th.
Fuck off
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>>740017494
shmups are literally a solved genre & pure memorization
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HEAVEN IS HERE INSIDE MY SOUL
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>>740041958
I'm not telling you about it because you are not worthy of discussion with me. Or rather, you're not worthy of what you consider gameplay (posting box art) with me. You are not cool or interesting. You are just in my way.
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Thanks for proving my point, now everyone can finally see what a poser faggot you are
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He has a point, 'ya know
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>make ninja gaiden 2 asking for help
>crickets
>make general action game thread
>ninja gaiden "fans" charge in screaming about how totally epic and badass they are
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>>740042245
Xhe's right, it's over
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>>740042381
shmups for this feel?
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>>740042403
EoSD
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>>740042403
I cant find it but there was this video titled "Zeroranger is great and Im a tranny"
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>>740026779
The only people I see stream/speedrun shumps are grown men who dress up in Touhou costumes or use vtuber avatars to hide their bald heads and greasy face.
They may not be transexual but goddamn they wish they could.
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>>740030267
plebeians*
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>>740042245
They both look bad.
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>>740032173
which model did you use for this post? kek
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I don't think most people even like this dogshit genre. They just force themselves to play it because a youtuber said it was the hecking peak of gaming.
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A fraud youtuber that doesn't understand 3D action games and has stopped playing shmups LMAO
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>>740042192
he's always been like that. I'm filtering evey onimai panel
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>>740043123
>>740043162
mork is a casual shitter who's been exposed and refuses to stream his shmups 1CC
he has no MN clears and got filtered by DMC and Rabi Ribi. he is a shitter
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>>740043232
>got filtered by rabi ribi
This one I missed, QRD? How do you get filtered by the cute and sexy bunny game
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>>740043347
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>>740043529
>no replies
MORKBROS?
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>>740041910
man up and play twin cobra
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>>740044067
I'm going to admit, I'm not playing a game that looks this fucking boring
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>>740044126
what's so boring about a helicopter shooting a bunch of missiles
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>>740044180
It doesn't spark joy
Although I am keen for any recs on helicopter shmups, Under Defeat is the only one I know
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>you should be able to randomly die at any point through no fault of your own
>high skill genre btw
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>>740044217
you are not man enough for helicopter shmups
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>>740044687
Well I did try Zero Gunner 2, but I was such a gigachad alpha sigma that the enemies literally stopped showing up
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>>740044735
you have zero clears
shut the fuck up
under defeat is an easy 2all unless you are going for no miss no bomb
SHUT UP SHITTER
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>>740017494
the problem is that your genre is just some minigame that has never been innovated on and is barely worth someone's time when there's vastly more innovative and complex genres out there to waste time on
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>>740044856
>more innovative and complex genres out there to waste time on
like?
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>>740044849
Your stream to show us how it's done?
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For me, it's more about combining choices than specializing in one. Current mobile games are addictive at give that to me. I'm playing a mini tower defense with 15 things to check on every time you open the game, but it has no ads unless you want it to. It's a lot of menuing to collect offline crap, but it's just fun once you're in battle
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>>740044380
This thread isn't about Rogue though, what are you on about
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>>740017494
I just find score attack games boring. Also with shmups my eyes will track onto a bullet and lose where my ship is. I'm probably autistic or something
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>>740045692
You dare question Bog and his genius game design knowledge?
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>>740017494
I hate how touhou trannies infected shmups.Everyone used to casually enjoy plane battle shmups but the difficulty fags took over and killed the genre. Every conversation has to be about difficulty and beating the game on a single credit now.
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Shmups are what you fall back on when you can't get anywhere in fighting games but still want to feel like you're better than all those dad gamers. You pick shmups specifically because they are the most dry and tedious arcade genre out there. You obsess over it for a year, putting in hundreds or maybe thousands of hours grinding for those clears, you put STG at the end of your handle so everyone bows in respect at your presence.
And then you realize this shit is fucking boring and move on with your life.
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>>740046281
>can't get anywhere with fighting games
This anon doesn't realise Mork is literally a theoretical Evo champion in Tekken, Third Strike and Virtua Fighter, the only reason he doesn't compete is because he feels it's unfair to everyone else
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>>740044217
Zero gunner 2??
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>>740017494
but I'm not gameplay first
I'm story and gameplay first
and I'm objectively better than anyone who feels otherwise ;)
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>>740046459
>aesthetics and music first
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>>740046393
>Mork
if he wants to be such a hardcore gaymer
he should be playing multiplayer games not fucking final fight or spikeout
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>>740046527
Why is it who everyone who prioritizes aesthetics or music or writing etc always has the worst taste in those things? Well, I know why and I'll tell you. You come to video games for those things because you have shit taste and you've run out of comic books to read.
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>>740046583
He already mastered fighting games, he's moved on
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>>740046628
>asking a rhetorical question then answering it yourself
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>>740045759
I don't know who the fuck that is or what it has to do with anything
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>>740046717
Typical poser doesn't know the greatest arcade designer since Yagawa and Ikeda
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>>740017494
No because shmups and bullet hells aren't GOOD gameplay. in fact, one could argue it's not even gameplay but a memorization game.
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>>740046281
What if I like shmups more than fighting games? Like I feel like I had a much easier time learning fighting games than shmups, and I have much more fun playing shmups. You look at the people playing fighting games now and it's like these 400lb totally cooked manbabies like DSP. I'm ready to just pass on that whole genre and never look back dude, sorry. I don't know how anyone can look at a modern fighting game and feel like that genre is in a good spot. There's a good chance a shmup will release in the future I'll enjoy, but this will NEVER happen with fighting games.
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>>740046834
holy fucking SEX with purple
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That is honestly an incredibly good point, I cannot in my wildest imagination imagine DSP 1ccing a shmup, and yet he's a fighting game world champion.
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>>740042245
if you don't "get" eosd you're not really into gaming as a hobby at all.
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>>740017494
I honestly suck at arcade-styled games like Pac-Man
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Fighting game players are corporate worshipping paypiggies that pay for unfinished games with reused assets and thank the companies for the opportunity
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>>740046834
post replays
show me your skill
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>>740043232
>refuses to stream his shmups 1CC
Doesn't he literally host in-person live events where he 1ccs games in person and didn't he stream his ddp 2-all
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>>740047068
mork can beat dodonpachi and he embarrased himself with resident evil 4
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>>740047129
danmakus are fun because with repetition you can get really good at stuff that looks very hard. There's no randomness like Pacman. Half the skill is memorizing the patterns.
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>>740047107
EoSD actually is complete garbage compared to CRS and I'm not even a huge fan of either of those games. But the stage and boss design in CRS is like crimzon clover levels of professionalism from an indie game, it's incredible 1 man made that.
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>>740047261
>you can get really good at stuff that looks very hard
so that means you are a good player right?
post replays then
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Mork is actually a genuine shmup player, that is certain
Where he fails is when he thought he was an action gamer, because he clearly isn't
He still hasn't streamed an MN run of NG 2 despite it apparently being his favourite game and having hundreds of hours
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>>740047261
ddr/stepmania, there can be garbage songs, stepfiles that aren't fun, but the good levels you'll keep replaying and get into the pattern. this isn't apples and oranges to me, it's precise movement (survive your 1 pixel guy) and Perfect/Outstanding your arrow when you've made the timing window smaller
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>>740047269
what the fuck is CRS
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>>740047261
>There's no randomness like Pacman.
Pacman is 100% deterministic
https://youtu.be/Bin0vu8Hp0g
This is real honest to god memo
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>>740047343
Cho Ren Shboku No Pico
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>>740047337
its funny how mork wants to be a youtuber but covers niche genres like beat em ups and hack n slash games
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>>740041516
Stop necroing.
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>>740047309
I don't save my replays. I mostly play on Normal or Arcade. Any game I like I can no miss the first 3 stages of. There was a time I was really into mushihimesama and got really good at normal mode but that was years ago and purely just autism with no guides.
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>>740047369
people in this thread are posers
they dont play arcade games
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>>740047474
A cat could beat crimzon clover novice mode. That's not really worth mentioning.
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>>740047421
one(1)uno search result and its my nigga
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>>740047474
so in other words you didnt get good and you cannot beat hard games
typical shmup player
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>>740047225
I don't think this is really true
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>>740047552
You can see I beat the EX boss but didn't 1cc. So I did 1cc arcade mode but not the trve boss.
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>>740047474
Anon, crimzon clover automatically saves replays
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>>740047585
I did not like having to spam the shift button in CC enough to learn the hardest mode. I really dislike how something that is supposed to be for lock on precision turning into just spamming a button to collect points while you stay in slow mode. It's very wierd.
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>>740047552
So a cat is confirmed a better player than the onimaifag
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>>740047690
That was 3 computers ago anon. They aren't in the cloud.
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>>740047625
You have to beat the TLB to 1cc the original difficulty, what are you even saying
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posers exposing themselves
reminds mee of mork in the system11 forum
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>>740047774
fuck that nigger boss fight I don't give a fuck about your "true" shit I beat the fucking game. I beat the last boss of the last stage. Anything after that is literally extra and not mandatory for shit.
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>>740017494
a game can put gameplay first, but if the gameplay is shit that's not gonna make the game any better than shit anon
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>>740047760
>They aren't in the cloud.
Anon, if your achievements are in the cloud the replay is in the cloud. It's also permanently stored online via the leaderboard, assuming you actually cleared.
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>bro just save state to alleviate the problem of the early game being really fucking boring :)
Shmupfags are just dancing around the core issue that the games are shallow memorizers
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ha ha ha
AM NOT A SHITTER I SWER AM NOT A SHITTER
THE TLB DOESNT COUNT
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>>740047863
fact checked false
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>>740047924
If you have an actual clear you can literally locate your score on the leaderboard and watch it
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>>740047702
Why are you using shift for slow? I bind lock A, shot B, bomb/hyper C
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It's really just a case of this website being a toxic shithole that ruins anything it comes into contact with. I have no obligation to play any game more than I feel is necessary.
I cannot imagine how warped someone must be that only cares about playing a video game to then show it off online. I've had that happen with other games on this site. I'm so glad this genre is something i enjoyed back in the early 2000s all by myself with no help no guides no community.

I will never talk about shmups on this website again. There is simply no reason. I'm a casual enjoyer. I can find all the lists on wikis and old forums I don't need you faggots for anything.
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CrimzonGOD start a stream and show us how its done
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>>740048106
Au revoir
shitter
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Can someone name another genre where it's fine and acceptable not to even beat the game? I have no idea why people make this complaint here. Like imagine if you wanted to discuss level design in half life and 90% of the thread was some retard who can't beat the game on normal that just wanted to talk about his favorite ecelebs. Who would tolerate that? It's just odd.
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>>740048635
HOLY FUCKING SEX SEX
SEXO
SEXXXXXXXXXXXX
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>>740048635
where are your replays?
you are just another poser
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>>740048635
if I spended 5 credits and killed the boss and saw the ending I beated it
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>start losing weight
>find myself more attracted to chubby 2D girls
Uh BROS?
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>>740048701
My replays of what
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Part of it is because the genre is so shallow that even the ecelebs have given up on it
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>>740048707
No you didn't. No you fucking didn't. There is zero skill in credit feeding. We can NOT support this, as it just opens the door to more bad behavior. What's next? Infinite lives cheats are allowed? Get the fuck outta here.
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>>740048823
shmups replays
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That's right, there's zero skill in actually playing the games, all the skill is in avatarfagging
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>>740048932
Of what games :|
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>>740049008
dodonpachi doj white label
mork favourite game
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>>740049065
I don't have a white label clear...
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>>740048957
You joke, but the reality is I've probably put much more effort collecting, organizing, and posting images than most posters put into games behind. It's sad, because the stuff I post wouldn't be considered noteworthy in the past, but now, anyone who puts effort into their posts is an anomaly.
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>>740049141
>effort collecting, organizing, and posting images
avatarfagging you mean, eyepatchnigger
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>>740049141
So again, can we see a stream of a master shmup player like yourself and show us how its done?
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>>740049124
of course you dont
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>>740049198
It's so over
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>>740049189
LOL his greatest """achievements""" are 1-all bombspam giga shitclears.
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>>740049316
>untitled4
So there's 3 more of these?
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You must clear all lunatic spell cards if you want to post in this general.
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>>740049179
He is not me. NEVER compare us again.
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>>740049374
That's exactly what eyepatchfag would say
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>load up arcadechad shmup
>there's a 3 second cutscene
Arcadebros it's fucking over, we're just moviegames now
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He has a point, 'ja know
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>>740049461
gunbird sisters??? how do we respond without sounding mad?
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>>740049374
>retarded avatarfag who only posts bait threads
>retarded avatarfag who only posts bait threads
Might as well be the same person tbdesu
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>>740049432
What does this dude even play? He's never posted a single clear, I'm not even sure what games he likes
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>>740049374
we are all one
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Who the fuck is "eyepatchfag"
Is this some poopdickschizo or something
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>>740018252
Why did they have to die so soon?
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Nearly 300 posts and not a single one is actually about the games, good job arcadeGODS
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>>740049501
I sexualize sakuya bigly
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>>740049645
this is true
most of the replays are just me talking to myself
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>A shmup-focused e-celeb going full grifter led to some sharty schizo becoming obsessed with him and deciding to shit up all shmup threads from that point on
>Others arrive into the thread and try to discuss shmups
>Schizo turns into MORK MORK MORK before returning to post about how lame shmups are
What the hell is this? Even the onimaifag posts here are fake.
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>>740049687
Basically the tranimai poster has this alter ego who avatarfags with images of this youtuber called Super Eyepatch Wolf. He exclusively posts threads like "what causes this" "whats behind this" etc. with filenames like 4142142 and so on in that state. I think he has dual personality disorder or something.
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>>740025673
Eerily accurate forg.
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For me, it's Raiden 2
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>>740049789
SHUT THE FUCK UP. YOU. ARE. NOT. ME!!!!!!
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>>740049849
post your multiloop replay
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>>740049917
And you are not me
The lengths that I will go to
The 1ccs in your eyes
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>>740049789
>Basically the tranimai poster has this alter ego who avatarfags with images of this youtuber called Super Eyepatch Wolf
Wrong, Auster is the eyepatch poster and he imitates the onimai poster because he's upset he posts replays and discusses games. Occasionally the posts get chain deleted and it's just auster having a meltdown and the on-topic onimai posts stay up.
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What does Eyepatch "And that's how Dragonball BROKE me" Wolf have to do with shmups?
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>>740049989
I am not Auster. Please do not say that.
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schizophrenic thread
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THAT'S RIGHT...... I, MAHIROFAG, AM AUSTER!
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>>740049989
This is correct. Retards who are incredibly jealous of me just want to drag my name in the mud because I'm so much better than them. It's kinda been a recurring theme in my life. But oh well. Small price to pay to be so above everyone else.
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>>740050120
post you irl
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>>740050120
Oh, and because I know some retarded neckbeard is already furiously typing accusing me of it, no, I am not samefagging. I simply encountered a very rare smart poster other than myself, who has recognized the situation and calls it for what it is.
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>>740050194
what's your laycount and how much do you bench bro
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>i'm an expert arcadeGOD
>here's me fighting a midboss on stage 1
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>>740050083
Which mahirofag, the one who plays shmups or the muslim one who lives in an east Asian jungle and translates the manga or maybe the one who wants to get mahiro pregnant and watch him push the babies out or the one that made that hack that turned out to work for the cia, etc

Mahiro posting is like picking up the spear of destiny, you gotta be ready to shoulder that burden dude
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>>740050251
I'm a tranny with AGP. I weigh 70 pounds.
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>>740050251
>what's your laycount
0 and I intend to keep it that way.
>and how much do you bench bro
115 lbs. Yes, I can fuck you up. Thanks for asking.
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I wish I woke up in a little girl's body.... too bad I'm stuck here playing shmups and dealing with you retarded faggots.... *sigh*
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>>740050284
>the one who plays shmups or the muslim one who lives in an east Asian jungle
that's the same guy
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>>740050308
please be my wife. i am not joking. please.
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>>740050120
post your ketsui ura loop replay
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>>740050413
Well..... uhhhh.... if you say so....
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This thread took quite a turn
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>>740050397
Based....
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>>740050439
im not joking i love cute trannys who play schmups >.<
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Anyone else sucking and fucking huge dildos while playing shmups? I wish I was a little girl so I could get raped by a real man *sigh*
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uh arcade"chads" what happened to our hardcore badass reputation?
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>>740050495
How big is your penis?
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this reminds me when trap15 spend the night with cream
shmups players are horny and desperate
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>>740050596
8 inches, also not joking about that either :3
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What the hell even is this thread anymore? You niggers ruin EVERYTHING. I literally just wanted to talk about Garegga, but you can't even let me have that. This is so unfair. I try to talk about video games and I'm suddenly the victim of targeted and extended harassment. What did I do to deserve this? You are all worse than Hitler, and I am being completely unironic when I say this.
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WUHHHHHHHH IM ONIMAINIGGER IM A TRANNY WHO WANTS HUGE PENISES RAILING MY ASSHOLE BECAUSE IM GAY WUHHHHHHHH I WISH I WAS A REAL GIRL SO I COULD GET FUCKING IN A VAGINA AND GET PREGNANT BECAUSE I HAVE AGP WUHHHHHHHHHH
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Onimaifag has gone insane.
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>shmups are just memo
>you like difficulty in games? play multiplayer games or PC games
>I like aesthetics/music/story/cutscenes more than gameplay
>dadshmups are the only shmups
>(random game) is SMARTER than shmups
>tranny tranime tran troon trannoid
>how do we recover?
>random image is SEX
>guys did you hear? Mork did something
>I am totally onimaifag and I suck dicks please reply
>actually I am a different schizo reply to me
>actually I am the REAL onimaifag, I play Garegga Garegga Garegga Garegga Garegga die
What a grim state of things.
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All this just to avoid actually playing the terrible genre lmao
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>>740050794
Hi Shitthetic!
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>>740050659
Race? I don't date non-Whites
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>>740050912
im white, also trans too if that helps
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>>740050941
>also trans
Ahhh.... I'm afraid that's a dealbreaker.
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>>740050986
>tfw youre a large dick tranny who just wants to be loved but all the cute schmup trannys only like men
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Morking it
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ITS PARTY MORKERS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT
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Literally can't show any of my friends shoot em ups because the genre is too hard for 95% of gamers.
If you didn't grow up with actually difficult games like this you don't have the actual training or innate skills needed to enjoy a genre as pure and dense as this. Everyone is trained to have RPG mechanics to out-stat every problem, or infinite retries, or even just enemies that aren't even a true threat and just stand still.

The moment the game starts you are playing on its terms, with nothing stopping the enemies from appearing on their timer to come fuck your ass. People have been trained for years to enjoy spending an hour learning boss patterns in a souls game but learning the patterns of a 20-30 minute loop 1 is too much for the average retard.
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This is the funniest thread I've seen on 4chan in like the last ten years
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>>740051184
Fuck off eyepatchtranny no one thinks your dogshit "jokes" are funny.
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>>740051123
SORRY FOR MORKY ROCKIN
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all i wanted was a cute tranner gf who plays schmups :<
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>>740042245
I miss njimmy
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>>740050540
This but I wish I was a little boy getting raped by a thich hag with a huge futanari cock.
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>>740051179
>shmups
>difficult
Funny how younger people getting into shmups complain about the repetition and memorisation, not the difficulty
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>>740051179
I showed mushihimesama original to my cousin, a cod zoomer. He loved it
gun and ball bros are the easiest convert. also rhythm and fightan trannies. jarpig shitters could never.
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>Ketsui 1cc (1-ALL) 74,426,034 - Tiger
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Shmups are one of the best genres to play with a vibrator in your ass. I always cum the most when I just end up getting a clear by the skin of my teeth that way. The tension combines with the pleasure SO well.
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>>740051494
>(1-ALL)
Why even upload that shit?
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>>740051326
if you play literally any game on a real difficulty where the enemies have suicide bullets that are dependent on where you are and not predetermined it's impossible to "memorize" a level and instead you have to actually learn how to properly play the fucking game
this whole "it's just a memorization genre" cope is the most ignorant retarded shit I've ever read
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>>740051731
You don't play shmups, instead you seethe about fictional people who aren't LE HARDCORE
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>>740051731
just ignore it, they clearly never played it
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This is just sad
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>>740017494
i beat super EDF on super nintendo when i was a kid
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>>740017494
its past your nap time gramps
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>>740051326
>heh, ackshully zoomers could easily 1CC your favorite shmup if they played them for longer than 5 mintues
Okay buddy.
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>>740017702
there's just one schizo but he types extremely fast
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>>740053104
>young people correctly identify the problems with the genre
>you seethe and shit and cry because you got btfo
Telling how shmup "fans" would rather post in a thread than play their genre
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>>740051179
It took me 40 hours to 1CC Mushi on normal mode consistently. That's significantly longer than it takes to learn a souls boss.
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>>740053339
They're not real problems, fuck zoomers for killing replayability in video games and supporting one and done playthrough moviegames.
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>>740053485
OK so stream us a shmup if they're so great, show us how a shmupGAWD plays
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>>740039317
>chinkware pixel dodging slop
You mean cave stuff? kek
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>here's your ninja gaiden expert bro
https://youtu.be/it19rCnZAlM?list=PLMDuVHl1iOH9cD54F2OnooU6Di1-j5ozw
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>>740017494
What if I don't like the gameplay of that genre?
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>>740017494
This, but ASSFAGGOTS
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So no stream? I thought you were going to show us why shmups are the best
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>>740053956
That's not our ninja gaiden expert bro.
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>>740054203
Mork has lived long enough to become the villain. Only plays mainstream shit with a biased as fuck agenda. Doesn't even clear games either and avoids showing proof. Hack.
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>>740017494
>most gameplay-first

actually modern shmups are more about spectacle than many genres, like arcade platformers, mazechases. even in its purest form, its not more gameplay-first than arcade platformers and puzzles.
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>>740056537
If the scoring system is bad the gameplay is not good, so that excludes an extreme amount of platformers
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>>740057220
So that excludes every shmup then
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>>740044909
Sport games
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>>740042775
trvke
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>>740053485
But Subway Surfers is infinitely replayable goodness with score chasing element like good old arcade games.
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>>740058826
I would rather play doodle jump than final fantasy ngl
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>>740058989
This weird meme of pretending a franchise with that many differing games is the same thing is very strange, almost like /v/ doesn't play games
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>>740059442
What are you talking about lmao, I am 110% serious in saying that I'd rather play doodle jump than ANY final fantasy
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>>740059717
/v/ doesn't play games, you don't play FF
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>>740020428
>Can't handle socratic questioning
damn
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>>740060000
uh CHECKED
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>>740059961
There is not a single second of gameplay in final fantasy that is more fun than doodle jump and deep down you know that.
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https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/KRtiF0NXzzJSovWs9NXj8Q/

Spamming/flooding/extremely low quality
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>>740060543
>ff V is literally exactly the same as sop
OK lil zoomie
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>>740060680
Both are demonstrably far more boring than doodle jump, yes
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>>740060580
You're the only one breaking any rules here though
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>>740017494
They're too bare and abstract yet not abstract enough. I'll go out of my way to play even ripped arcade rhythm games because those don't even bother with characters or enemies or story, and when they do it's pure decoration, but shmups I just can't get into.
Enjoyed Mirage Feathers (with a flightstick) though, the third person view brings it over the acceptable immersion threshold for me (for the genre). Should probably try out more of those, and speaking of which, ULTRA0 is releasing soon.

I hate talking about this because I don't think I'll ever make it truly clear what I mean.
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>>740060809
Please explain how SoP is the same game as FF V
Then again you haven't played either
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>>740061148
They're boring, simple as
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huh? Where's all the shmup gameplay? ArcadeGODS do play right?
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>>740047816
>reminds mee of mork in the system11 forum
Qrd?
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>gameplay first
All video game boards have been mostly porn and schizo coomer ramble forever.



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