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Looks to be a prequel set in Orr before it sunk. Maybe a whole pre-searing Tyria.
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damn.. after the blast that GW2 was, I can't wait.. for... *snore*
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>>740030819
If you have narcolepsy WoW is more your style
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>>740030705
Isn't gw2 due for a new expansion anyway? Probably just that.
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>>740030705
Set in the actual Guild Wars probably
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>>740031038
Nah they posted the teaser on the Guild War 1 social media too.
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>>740030705
will they add guild wars this time? builds if were lucky?
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woke crap anyway
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>>740030705
>GW3
They've been hiring Unreal devs for years, I'd be more willing to believe it's a single-player game set in GW
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>they fucked the setting and lore so much they have to go into the ancient past
Grim.
Wonder how they'll further fuck over the Human Gods.
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>>740031419
It never reached terminal wokeness. Just hit a cringe peak around 2022 with too many self-insert office women characters
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>>740032330
it reached terminal wokeness. Which is any amount of wokeness.
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Not playing GW2.
Not leaving pre-Searing.
Oh, another flower!
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>>740031619
>the human gods will either be extremely problematic or extremely progressive with no inbetween
god please no
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this is probably why they started updating 1 again
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Are GW2 players still all pissy about the idea of a sequel and how it'll invalidate the thousands of dollars they've spent on microtransactions? Blew my mind when I saw how hostile they were to the idea the last time the subject of a GW3 was came up in the rumour mill.
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>>740032330
>Beat up the bigot!
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>>740032741
for me personally i dont trust current Anet to do anything

1 is in a good state and i just pvp in 2 sometimes
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>>740032597
Hope they gear more heavily towards 1 style combat and missions with a proper z-axis and mounts from gw2.
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>>740030705
Guild Wars 1 is back from the dead.
I don't care.
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>>740033209
GW1 combat sucks ass why would you want that
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>>740033685
The filter is working.
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>>740033828
Blessed be the world!
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>>740033209
i think 2's build system is a total failure but i dont think they will go back to team comps like in 1. probably just come up with something new and keep focusing on single characters.
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>>740033828
Too bad your dad's condom didn't filter you. But at least it gave GW1 another player, there will be 30 of you soon if things keep up
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>>740030705
There’s no chance in hell GW3 is even in development lol
You suck
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>>740034370
>i think 2's build system
what build system. you select a weapon lol
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>>740034620
the specialization system. its just some traits you pick and you take the obvious good ones. and binding skills to weapons is kind of pointless roleplay, but it did have the side effect of making every cosmetic relevant for the cash shop
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>>740034570
Idiot we've explicitly had GW3 as a title leaked forever ago
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>>740030705
GW1 and 2 are the only MMOs I max levelled every class in. People shit on GW2 but I actually love that it made guilds actually social and have things to do. MMOS are fucking pointless without the social aspect.
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>>740034868
Guild Wars 2 build system is one of the best in gaming in general. There absolutely aren't "obvious good ones" they're split between sustain, group content, support, CC, etc. I was just thinking about how much better it is a system than basically any other game I played. No idea how you've gotten such a 180 degree impression of it
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>>740035028
Bad MMOs are.
Dragon's Dogma Online is good offline. If Guild Wars is bad offline then it's a bad game simple as!
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>>740035059
>Guild Wars 2 build system is one of the best in gaming in general.
... you pick a weapon and thats it
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>>740030705
I'll play it if it goes back to being more GW1 than GW2.
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>>740035129
The original Guild Wars is unironically better offline in some cases. I can at least trust my Heroes to not fuck up very basic rotations, more than can be said for the average player.
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>>740030705
Is it really GW3? I thought it was just another GW2 expansion
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>>740035234
Yeah you and a dozen other 40 something year old autists. Everyone else would quit
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>>740031038
GW2 is in part 3 of the current expansion, released last month.
If GW3 is next then it could be based on what the current antagonist is doing.
Asura used the inquest to get onto the island where Seers resided before mursaat war. He's now ascended and this part ended with him looking to rewrite/correct a part of reality.
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>>740035335
but what's the downside?
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>>740035446
It making no money and shutting down in 2 weeks
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>>740035059
if you think boon spam is great then good for you i suppose.
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>>740035546
There isn't anybody to spam boons to when you're solo
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>>740030705
I will skip this one. You guys enjoy it.
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>prequel
As a non-sparklecat charr main this has me worried
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>>740035059
Anon you have to remember where you are. I can guarantee you that 90% of the people responding in this thread right now are either people who have genuinely never played any GW game, larping as someone who has, or is someone who played the vanilla launch of GW2 and have yet to parse that the game changed substantially over 10+ fucking years.

You're 100% right btw, but no one else in this thread is going to bother to comprehend the modern context of where GW2 and Arenanet is today compared to where it was back in like, 2016 or whatever.
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>>740030705
first quest will be "beat up the bigot"
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>>740030705
I don4t know why, I really liked GW1 but never managed to get in GW2. Did I miss a cool story?
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>>740036450
If you liked GW1 then run as far away from GW2's story as possible.
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>>740036450
No. The story is kind of cool when you're in your first 20 levels and it gets progressively worse from there. Then theres the expansion stories which are just insulting. Its amazing how bad the story is given how much emphasis the developers put on it.
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>>740036450
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>740036295
gw2 players are so retarded they cant imagine that someone wouldnt be retarded
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>>740036450
You did. GW2's story is fantastic and the whole game is very artistic and well put together. I suggest getting into it now before GW3
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>>740036450
>>740036785
this anon is trolling you
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>>740036450
I dunno, how would you feel about Harley Quinn except an even bigger villain sue?
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Please god make it good like GW1 and not trash like 2
You can't unrape the lore but at least don't make it worse.
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>>740036785
>GW2's story is fantastic
LMAO why would you ie like this?
The game does fantastic in a lot of areas but certainly not there.
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>>740036450
Bits and pieces are good, but the main narrative of the game is nothing special. At best, it’s on par with the rest of the stories you get in other MMO’s, and then you get some really low points like Dragon Storm or just anything to with Aurene
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>>740036912
You're retarded
>>740037068
Lmao literally everything about it is fantastic. What possible problem do you weirdos have with it?
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>>740030705
PLEASE LET IT BE MORE LIKE GW1
I want my GW1 PvP back
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>>740030705
Damn, can't wait to be honest. Shame it's probably still years away. The hate the games get is completely unjustified and full of trannified estrogen.
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>>740037170
oh it's concern trolling. Never mind.
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>>740037174
I don’t think they’re going back to ARPG’s.
GW1 is still getting updates, so why not play that instead?
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>>740037170
Dragonstorm
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>>740037257
>retard immediately comes up blank when trying to explain it
classic
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>>740037313
you haven't explained shit either.
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>>740037170
The charr was a missed opportunity on many levels
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>>740036785
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU.

GW2 is an amazing open world with imo the best approach to world building of any mmo through it's hearts and event system getting players to naturally engage with the storylines around the world. HOWEVER the main campaign is fucking dogshit and like every MMO the writing team is infested with furries and troons who write for the insane furries and troons who play the game.

https://youtu.be/GxTiwKvp348?si=Qh2SijKutrIuYDyJ

it is literally wasted potential: the game.
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>>740032741
I feel like any MMO's audience would be pretty prissy if they decided to kill off their MMO for a sequel where things start fresh.
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>>740037407
>=si
https://youtu.be/GxTiwKvp348
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>>740037414
YEAH IMAGINE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENING
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>>740032741
After how big of a disappointment the Hall of Monuments is, they have every reason to say no to another sequel
I’d hate to log in to GW3 and see I can’t use any of my legendary items I spent hours grinding for
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It appears there is a cohort of aged males, 40+, neurodivergent without exception, who actually prefer GW1 over GW2. When questioned, they are unable to actually articulate why, but will use various verbal and physical gestures, such as stomping their feet and grunting, to appear confident.
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>>740036704
>Anyone who disagrees with my dated opinion I established when I was 13 during the 2016 culture wars is retarded

Yeah sure ok bud.
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>>740037407
Retard that's about the new story. Who gives a shit about the new story. Anyone who picks the game up now should start from the core 2012 story, which is fantastic. That's what I did, I didn't even get to Path of Fire yet and already have hundreds of hours spent.
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>>740037802
The core story is fucking horrendous as well. MMO's should not have a single player, commander style story. That's the issue. The world building is great and the lore is good in parts but the actual story is just terrible.
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>>740037928
You're probably literally too stupid to understand what the story even was. That's the only way you could arrive at this conclusion. Some people just skip all the story-telling and rush through the personal story chasing the little green dots.
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>>740037798
yes, anyone who likes gw 2 is clinically proven to be retarded. hope that clears this up.
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>>740036450
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>>740037802
What are you doing to have put that much time into the game and not made it to PoF?
Even if you wanted to finish all of the content before PoF and explore every last map, it should only take you like a month or 2.
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>>740037802
The core story is terrible
>Pick your character's backgrounds, ands specifics, and important people in their lives
>3 ariation for every race, making 15 variations with bits and pieces you can exchange
>Not amazing, but not bad either, gives you some roleplay
>Run out all of the content this gives by level 30
>You gotta pick one of the 3 factions you immediately get promoted to, never seeing anyone from your original story ever again.
>You run out of content this gives by level 60
>Now it is all the same "plot" with uniting the 3 factions into one mega-factions where you are the sort of, but not really leader
>You finally get to the end at level 80
>The previous heroes who are a diverse superhero team all arrive (except for the part where they are complete losers),
>Mega death dragon arrives
>You shoot him down in a turret section, and the heroes who did nothing for 90% of the story celebrate how cool they, and you are.
They wanted to start with an idea, but they were too deep in development when it all fell apart.
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>>740037802
ah yes

the core 2012 story

or, more accurately

"Commander, I need you to do everything, while I, Trahearne, get all the credit. Also you will only know who I am if you started as a Sylvari."

Featuring the single worst final boss in all of video games.
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>>740038213
>yes, i can only speak in absolute terms with black and white thinking because im burdened with crippling autisim that prevents me from connecting with others and fated to spend what little time i have on this earth living a life unfulfilled before i am but dust in the wind

Woah man, didn't expect you to get so real like that but best of luck to you, hope you end up ok.
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>>740038659
But enough about WoW
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>>740038296
Only if you play it like some 80 IQ grunt. I absorb all the content, talk to all NPCs which can have great dialogue, try to do all events, finish any achievements that look fun, and of course level alts. The game is absolutely huge, and you can easily get tied up doing something in even the core zones. Let alone Season 1, which I had to 100% to unlock old Lion's Arch which I wanted to see, Season 2 and Heart of Thorns. You can easily spent years playing all that content before you ever get to the new stuff, since none of it became dated.
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they should just remaster Guild Wars 1
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I will give ANet another chance for keeping GW1 alive and even updating it.
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I want to be excited, but I know that the team that made GW1 isn't even with the company anymore. Give me the option to play an interrupt ranger again and I'll buy your shitty fanfiction.
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>>740038410
Lmao nothing you said has anything to do with the story. You're complaining about the structure of the personal quest line, which is also retarded since the average MMO gives you literally zero personalization and you're complaining you only got *30 levels*. And then the classic Zhaitan complaint "duuurrrr why we shoot dragon down with weapon, why me no fighty giant cataclysm monster with sword"
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>>740038470
He was also so goddamn boring. His monotone voice was a pain to listen to.
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>>740038606
ok gw2 player
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>>740038930
wait a minute...
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Honestly, I don't see a point in Guild Wars game without the Charr.
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>>740038470
You literally get a parade party thrown for you where you stand in the center while everyone cheers and confetti is flying everywhere, then get to walk down as a member of the Destiny's Edge in your own cinematic. But sure Trahearne totally stole your lightning. Also complaining about Zhaitan exposes you are being a complete retard, that fight is a perfect litmus test to see if someone has the minimum level of sentience to follow along a story.
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>>740039090
considering we fight three out of the five other giant cataclysm monsters with swords, yeah
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>>740039428
the problem with Zhaitan is that is both LONG and BORING. You essentially watch an extraordinarily monotonous cutscene for 15 minutes, then you win. It's fucking awful.
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>>740039428
>walk down as a member of the Destiny's Edge
I consider this more as a punishment as anything. DE have been nothing but losers, who failed to achieve anything of note ever. It would be comical if the game didn't try so hard to sell you the narrative of them being heroes. While their rapsheet has nothing but L-s.
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>>740038930
You can still play GW1, bro. There’s probably a lot of new stuff in there for you to do
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>>740039492
You're fighting a giant undead apocalypse dragon with an army of airships and you find that boring? No, what people with underdeveloped brains find boring about it is that they aren't told to do anything. They have no constant stimuli bombarding them with tasks. The soulless find such a lack of commanding direction unnerving, they have to actually appreciate the story unfolding in-front of them, which they can't do, ergo "bad fight".
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>>740030705
Fool me once, shame on you...
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If they could just fly in, and shoot him down with canons, why did they years to do it?
Are they stupid?
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>>740039432
Yeah that's because the ArenaNet devs had to accommodate the average retard aphantasic after seeing the reaction with Zhaitan.
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>>740039690
Yes, yes I do. Because I am standing on one of the airships pressing the hotkey for the cannon that doesn't even require aiming or timing. I'm not actually doing anything. There's no "story unfolding," Zhaitan is just getting shot for 15 minutes. And then it ends. Compare it to any of the other elder dragon battles, even Dragonstorm, both in terms of gameplay and story happening during the battle. It's embarrassing.
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>>740039873
yeah man, you just have to imagine you're playing a fun game instead of GW2
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>>740039690
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-fm1HHUjA
Funny that you would use this horseshit as an example of a good fight
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>>740039882
The game isn't telling you to press buttons and so nothing is happening? Do you describe movies as just a bunch of random pictures moving on a screen? That's exactly what I'm talking about. Many people, you among them, are literally too stupid to pick up the context on what is happening. They're just carried along whatever is happening in a sort of confused daze, only gaining sentience when somebody tells them to do something, that's what's embarrassing. The other fights had to accommodate such retardation going forward, instead of being allowed to tell a story where is fight is in the preparation.
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>>740040209
You're not real.
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>>740040089
This is like showing a video of a guy looking away from a TV screen complaining the movie is bad. Literally simply being so profoundly retarded you are incapable of interacting with the media correctly, everything has to be made retard proof.
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>>740039882
Not to mention that Zhaitan does nothing up that point, to make this feel like any sort of close up to the plot.
On paper he is a big bad, that brought back an entire civilization as zombies, and been terrorizing the seas, even touching some of the racial backgrounds (like the charr), but then the undead disappear till the final section of the game.
He is hyped to high heavens, but in the end he is just a dumb monster. Not even a boss, because you must be able to beat him alone in your "personal story". At least the expansions tried.
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>>740040549
>t. a guy too stupid to play the game correctly
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What actual guild 1 updates are there? Is it worth running prophecies campaign for 20th time or is that dead horse truly beaten?
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Man, someone is really salty that vanilla GW2 is not as good as he remembers it to be.
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>>740040653
Reforged mode puts Prophecies mission rewards more in line with Factions/Nightfall, and makes the leveling experience a little smoother for newbies.
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>>740040681
I did vanilla GW2 for the first time last year. What you're learning is that it isn't as bad as you remember it to be. Well if you had the brain power necessary to learn.
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>>740040653
they added a couple heroes to Prophecies and two (2) dungeons to Pre- and Post-Searing
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They wasted Joko in gw2. He should have had his own expansion.
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>>740037276
Because it sucks and the guy is just a nostalgiafag like all GW1 fans
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>>740040353
even if i looked away from the screen it would still play the same, the boss is literally doing nothing.
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>>740041176
Yeah because it's not a "boss" it's an apocalypse in the form of a dragon, and the actual fight was getting all the races and factions to work together, build an army that can destroy it, weaken its forces and get to it. What the fuck is it supposed to do to you, you're just 1 soldier in the army. That's the context you're too stupid to pick up on.
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>>740041762
>you're just 1 soldier in the army
I'd fucking wish. Then I could actually work together with other players like this was an MMO, and not do this whole Commander nonsense.
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>>740041762
I dunno, maybe join together with other players in a massive coalition as part of a map-spanning battle to bring the fight directly to the dragon's lair in order to battle the dragon itself, while a small team of elite fighters dives directly into the dragon's psychic mindscape to kill its mind.

Or something, I'm no game designer.
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>>740041885
It's a personal story. The literal entire rest of the game is a constant giant army of players.
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>>740041762
So the correct way to engage with the game is to pretend something is happening?
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>>740042046
Nah that'd be like, an MMO man.
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>>740041762
>it's an apocalypse in the form of a dragon
Why is the apocalypse in the form of a dragon just standing there getting hit until it dies? Doesn't seem very threatening.
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>>740031419
the modern audience has been keeping the dogshit pile of shit that is fagrenanet afloat for the past 10 years
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>>740042046
Wow it's almost like that's literally what happens. There isn't just 1 map-spamming battle to take the fight to Zhaitan, there are THREE whole maps with meta events where the races and factions of Tyria band together and storm into Orr. You help the ships land, you set up the bases, you help the army siege the temples and then defend them. You even see the minor races come to help. But again some players (You) are 80 IQ zombies who just follow the little green dots and miss that whole thing and then ask for the thing they missed. Really I don't know how game devs handle it.
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>>740032330
>t. ranny
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>>740042330
oh nice, so there's an actual battle with Zhaitan at the end of all that? Do you need to actually complete those meta events to fight Zhaitan? Or do you just follow the green dots to stand on an airship for 15 minutes while nothing happens?
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>>740042246
Because you blinded it when you killed its eyes and sapped away its strength when you killed its mouth, and it's fighting a giant army of airships, you're just on one of them. Though I have no doubt this all went over your head and will again even if directly explained.
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>>740036450
you missed gay nigger faggot kosher woketrash
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>>740042437
Yes this is the pivotal thing, you're given the choice of skipping that massive 3 zone spanning effort where you need an army of players so you can rush and finish the story. Causing absolute tards to do that every time, miss all the content, and then complain about it. You're now sitting here complaining that you weren't forced to do something, and are upset at the game for something you chose to not do. It's quite something.
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>>740041762
>uhm ackshually the real boss fight was the friends we made along the way
literally kill yourself posthaste
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>>740042732
You're quite literally too retarded to understand a story in a video game and then have the gall to be upset about it. I would suggest you shoot yourself but it's a waste of a bullet, just continue being as you are, it's punishment enough.
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>>740042856
>hurff durrff yew deednt onderSTAIND muh stuurry
nigger fuck off, i understood the story, it was shit and no matter how good a story could be it doesn't ever excuse shit gameplay
story is tertiary to videogames, gameplay is PRIMARY, get that through your pozzed faggot head right before you get a bullet through there
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>>740042951
Lmao dumb 80 IQ tard is fuming that he was too stupid to understand a video game story from 2012. Nothing is tertiary or primary in video games you moron they are completely malleable, there are video games where the only gameplay is to click on buttons and make choices, though such game require reading so are way above your int level. Gonna take like 6 generations before anyone with your genes can attain that level of literacy.
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>>740030705
Why do I care about a new Guild Wars product when nu anet is still nu anet
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>>740030705
>Guild Wars 3
even if that's the case it is at least 4years away. ncsoft still has to milk Aion 2 in the west
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Guild Wars is fucking sick.
GW3 is not getting announced no matter how much the resident threadshitter believes so.
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>>740043717
Still such a beautiful game ay. Soundtrack is unbelievable kino too
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>>740044053
It really is gorgeous all these years later.
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>>740043717
>>740044053
>>740044426
Why do you boomers like to lie yourselves it obviously looks like shit.
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>>740044489
What does you being new to 4chan have to do with video games?
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>>740032330
Nigger the newest miniexpac has an entire hero point designed around convincing a faggot to express his true feelings to another male buttpirate. Shove your disingenuous shill faggotry up your ass where you like it
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>>740042465
It has 80 heads youre telling me all of those are blind?
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>>740032741
I never really understood the sunk cost fallacy arguement. People never bitched bouncing to each newly released CoD every year, they just consumed the slop and got excited for the next product. This applies to all games with sequels
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>>740044636
Gay people being in a video game isn't woke. Otherwise every game you played would automatically be woke, think about it. Wokeness is about next level political propaganda, it was only present in End of Dragons.
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>>740044740
the difference between the yearly CoD slop and an MMO is that there is a CoD every year, while some people have been playing the MMO for 15+ years

(also I think CoD has started making its MTX cosmetics carry forward with their new universal launcher thingy)
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>>740034951
>we've explicitly had GW3 as a title leaked forever ago
Sources cited?
>s-some faggot told his investors this in a closed door meeting so theyd keep giving them money! THIS MEANS GW3!
>two years ago? With arenanet never acknowledging it? DOESNT MATTER DONT CUT OFF MY COPIUM!
>AIEEEEEE MUH JOB POSTING THOUGH BRO. ITS 1000% PROOFS
The absolute state of raped gw2 players
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>>740039428
>As a member of Destiny's Edge
ah yes, the great DE plot that is literally shoved away in the story mode dungeons that barely anybody did, what an honor
and then you get to build your own Destiny's Edge Teen Titans with the worst, most retarded insufferable faggots after too
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>>740044489
I pity alpha babies that need ultra realistic slop to view something as visually appealing. Making use with limited means is true art.
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>>740044748
>Gay people being in a video game isn't woke. Otherwise every game you played would automatically be woke, think about it.
I get that youre trying to call me gay but im not IN the video games you fucking dipshit so your faggy diss doesnt work. Also if it wasnt virtue signaling then where are all the hero points where you help out a heterosexual relationship?
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>commander I have super uncureable aids I'm going to die
>years later
>still not dead
I stopped playing after EoD. Is she dead yet ?
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>>740037673
>insane skills variety and combination possibilities
>tons of viable and creative options for pve and pvp
>experimentation even years after release
It's really not that difficult to understand and if they stick to their systems as they exist in 2, I'm already not interested anymore.
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>>740044885
>the difference between the yearly CoD slop and an MMO is that there is a CoD every year, while some people have been playing the MMO for 15+ years
That makes it equally applicable if not worse because people are spending full price + extra for dlcs and online game service every year, just as long as any MMO. Except they lose all progresssion every year.
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>>740045214
she got benched with the rest of Diversity's Edge
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>>740045171
You literally are in the game, you are a player who walks and talks, just through an avatar. It's not like you're roleplaying as a heterosexual. Also I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of hero points where you help out heterosexuals, since all other romance is by default hetero.
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>>740045374
>You literally are in the game
Holy shit is this the "tranny immersion" pipeline i keep reading about? Do you think youre literally the hot chick you play as?
Itd be a lot funnier if you mentioned a goings-into-games machine but youre probably too young to know about that meme.
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>>740045374
>all other romance is by default hetero.
You say this in the game with an obcense amount of gay main characters you absolute fucking retard.
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>>740045478
Well I suppose if you're playing women you do turn around to being heterosexual since women are supposed to like cocks.
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>>740045543
That has nothing to do with what I said? Literal inane comment, please do everyone a favor and stop typing.
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>>740045727
>all other romances are hetro if you just ignore all the other fag romances
Compelling arguement.
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>>740043543
>ncsoft still has to milk Aion 2 in the west
If the monetization of it is even remotely close to korea's, that one'll be dead in a few months at best
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>>740045867
That's not what that comment said you illiterate monkey lmao. I said all romance other than explicitly homosexual romance is heterosexual, meaning you don't have to go out of your way to find explicitly heterosexual stories that give you a hero point. Characters won't say "I am hetero! Here is my *wife*! Isn't it cool that I, a man, have a female wife?"
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>>740046090
the absolute state of guild wars 2 trannies defending their game lmfao
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We have GW1 Reforged now. Why would you care about any other GW title?
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>>740045158
What a shitty cope
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>>740046248
Oh you are the same GW1 retard who has been shitting up this thread for the past 2 hours. Explains the inability to read, and of course you'd rather be posting on /v/ because even that is more fun than playing GW1 lmao
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>>740030819
fpbp
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>>740030705
GW2 was tranny wokeslop, not buying it.
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>>740030705
Wowee, more agender engineers and bigot punchers? Blast havers, I can't believe these good news!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxTiwKvp348
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I like Guild Wars 1 and 2. Here are my hopes:
>Either true action rpg combat or the GW 2 combat
>Multiclassing like GW1 for maximum build autism and roleplaying
>Hybrid MMO like Monster Hunter or Atlyss where you can play offline or join a lobby
>Hero system where you can play with party members offline
>The races of 2 so we can have the uoooh muscle mommy amazons and the funny manlet asuras
>Not go full retard with the writing. Seriously, how the human kingdom didn't collapse into the Fantasy French Revolution with all the problems happening to humans in-universe makes no sense
t. 100 hours in GW2 but like 5 hours in GW1
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i looked forward to gw2 for years, tried the beta, and never played it again

i look forward to doing the same thing with gw2
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I just could never get into guild wars, the first one was cool cause it was like a D&D adventure, but I played DnD online and it obliterated it for that feeling, and LOTRO did the partying together in a big world thing much better because so much of guild wars was instanced.

I tried playing 2 but the story was fucking ubercringe and I made it like 20 levels before tapping out.
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>>740030985
Sorry your WoW killer died.
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>>740036450
You're now supposed to be all buddy-buddy with the Ch*rr.
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>>740037673
>they are unable to actually articulate why
People have explained it to you countless times, but you just always pretend you don't understand.
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>>740047496
GW2 has been in like the top 5 mmos since it came out
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>>740047676
brother gw2 is barely top 50. It barely pulls 35-40k players nowadays. Fucking maplestory beats it. Lineage beats it. Random ass 20 year old KMMOs beat it.
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>>740047676
top 5 MMOs ranked among DICKSUCKERS
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>>740035437
>tfw own every expansion and living world saga
>haven't even done the shit added in May
>don't even have it installed
>don't really care to
Feels...something man. I played through every expansion or season with a new class so I could try everything out and came to the realization that only the original F2P start out Warrior, even without an elite spec, felt good to play.
Engineer with the robit was good mindless fun though but mostly because you could get away with absolute bullshit nearly no other spec could.

Holy fuck were season 1 and 2 terrible, the people that wrote that tripe should feel embarrassed even now.
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>>740047676
that says more about the dire state of the genre and less about GW2's supposed quality
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So how likely is it that GW3 is humans only since all korean grind MMO's bank heavily on there being no race choices in order to churn out slop faster?
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I'M FROM ASCALON CITY AND I SAY KILL EM ALL
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>>740047769
Yeah no that's not true. It's still top 5. I realize this upsets you for some reason but it's really no reason to lie to yourself or others
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>>740048627
oh it hit 30 today, LMAO
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>>740048679
Lmao I know it shouldn't surprise me you're stupid enough to believe that website but come on. It says DC Universe Online has 7 times the population of World of Warcraft, which is at #76
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>>740048008
The new map is nice but I've felt similar overall.
Season 1 was their writer going out of control with her plantsona. Season 2 was trying to unfuck it.
Then HoT was killing off her mistakes.
It's a shame honestly a shame that the worst content is the free stuff.
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>>740049303
>There's worse content than "Beat up the bigot!"
Grim
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>>740030705
I had a decent enough time w/ 2, until late PoF anyways. Got tired of the obvious attempt to pivot to maintenance mode and gave up when NCSoft rolled some heads at Anet(deserved). The guy they put in charge seemed more interested in marketing gimmicks(muh Living World rebrand) and squeezing the remaining players than trying to fix things.
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>>740049598
I never understood why that somehow stood out to people. It's something that you do to find out more about the ministy of purity, the description is appropriate and the task takes 20 seconds.
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>>740049897
>when NCSoft rolled some heads at Anet(deserved).
Probably the one and single time I ever side with NCsoft. Its criminal that you cannot critize this shit game without getting banned in most of the interweb. Only in this board and maybe the youtube comment is where you could talk about how GW2 is so bad.
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GW2 is still the best MMO out and anyone who thinks otherwise has been mind raped into thinking grinding the same gear every few months with 10% more stats is fun
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Guild Wars 2: New Genesis
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>>740030985
They're both dogshit MMO attempts. Both too afraid to do anything interesting that might possibly upset people, so instead we get generic garbage where no one can ever lose because if they do they'll ragequit and cry.
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>>740030705
I remember playing it at launch and there were basically 0 animation locks so you could spam attacks and dodge/heal without repercussion. There's essentially no skill expression because there's little consequence to anything. Incidentally the game was really popular among women and "women" so I'm not surprised it's still alive.
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>>740030705
>implying I'll be buying anything from the faggot elite after the first story got shitton and focused on the plant people

I heard it got worse later.
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>>740050649
GW2 has tons of animation locks
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horizontal progression mmorpgs suck because I don't give a fuck about the story and I need a reward and an excuse for doing the content. I like being on the treadmill. who plays mmorpgs just for the sake of playing? I always thought the whole reason was to be working towards a never ending goal because number go up and its satisfying. im not a dad gamer i want a second job.
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>>740050737
Guild Wars 1 did it right, funny enough.
>fuck tons of weapons to find and grab
>get runes and insignia for your heroes
>get runes and insignia for your mercs
>get runes and insignia for your alts
>grind to get another armor set for specific job
>grind ZM for Zkeys (HoM easy mode for PvP requirement) and coins
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>>740050737
the "vertical" progression of GW2 is the legendary grind
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>>740030705
>great a sequal to the hit game called guild wars
>call it guild wars 2
>there is no guild wars in guild wars 2
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>>740050735
The only thing that came close on launch was channeling skills like metoer which you could immediately cancel out of. Even when you're skills are on cooldown you can move in any which direction and spam auto attack. There's basically no resource to manage outside of cooldowns. There's barely any commitment and the combat is very floaty. I went on TERA instead RIP. Great game that died to publisher shennanigans.
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>>740050929
The Guild Wars is a historical lore event that happens before GW1 you moron. It's also not in the first game
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I WANT THE IDLE STRETCH ANIMATION FOR MY FHDs BACK!
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>>740050994
Not him but don't be retarded. Guild Vs Guild was the bread and butter of PvP. Even today, there isn't a proper GvG mode and the devs have a record of hating GvG
https://imgur.com/a/anet-trolling-mhYp4
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>>740050737
It was fun back in the day where your previous gear mattered in future content but the seasonal shit in modern MMOs is a complete waste of time
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>>740050994
>It's also not in the first game
>There is well-known game mode in gw1 called GvG.
>this series of letters stands for Guild vs.Guild
>guild wars isn't in the first game
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>>740050881
Grinding cosmetic items should be an optional supplement to the gear progression, especially in a game that sells cosmetics like GW. The first 3 WoW expansions had lots of good and interesting gear and it was very memorable when you would get certain pieces. When I played GW it all looked the same to me and its hard to even see what people have when they're wearing flashy store cosmetics, and there were legendaries that you could buy most of the matts for with gold
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It's being shown in the summer games thing
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>>740051456
Legendary gear has an objective gameplay benefit, since it's now account wide and the affixes can be changed at will.
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>>740030705
it will be literally the anual expansion sorry bro
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>>740040803
Impossible to do vanilla gw2 as it is impossible to do vanilla HoT, all nerfed shit for trannies. Original HoT was a hardcore experience and the best "exploring a dangerous as fuck jungle, this shit is actually a suicide expedition" ever put on a game
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>>740050408
Another good game that it was bad when launched but its now great, and its only hated because the builds are less complex than the first game
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neat i really liked gw2 and its prog model.
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>>740035129
DDO was one of the best ARPGs I've ever played. I need to get a private server up and running and finish it. Fuckers shut live down just as I was really getting into it.
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wouldnt it be wild if arenanet snuck in and btfo tranny games, wow and ff14
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>>740031619
they'll be the invaders (colonizers) you fight
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>>740054091
A-Net is the premier dev for mmos aimrd at trannies
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Reminder that Blish is still in superhell and nobody has bothered to even try to find a way to save him.
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>>740053516
>expansion
There is literally no way they wouldn't have mentioned it was an expansion in the tweet. They know about the GW3 speculation. The marketing is bad but not that fucking bad.
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>>740051518
I almost wish I could grind for something less intense that only gives me the gameplay benefits. I don't care for a rainbow staff or clown guns. I just want to change my builds easily.
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>>740050737
>who plays videogames for the gameplay?
typical /v/edditor retarded take
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>>740050104
all redditors deserve to be exterminated
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>>740048008
The quality dropped off a cliff starting with SotO and just hasn't recovered. You can tell it's a smaller team with fewer resources just trying to wring the game dry until it's time for something new. I've put so much fucking time into Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2 that I'm honestly at an age where I don't really want to start over in GW2.
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>>740048627
it's not even in the too 100
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>>740050104
only (toxic) positivity is allowed
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>>740054519
start over in GW3* goddamn it
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>>740043314
typical retarded tertiary nigger take
gameplay is ALL, there is nothing else that matters in the slightest
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>>740054519
>You can tell it's a smaller team with fewer resources just trying to wring the game dry
well they did suffer yet another wave of layoffs, the previous one being after EoD's release and needed the majority to start working on GW3, if that's actually going to be a thing
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>>740054693
It was 4 years between EotN sending GW1 off and GW2's release. If GW3 is a thing it's more than likely years away and GW2 will be in maintenance mode by then.
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>>740054418
The grind isn't even really that bad... I just casually played for like 4 years and I have full legendary gear on all accessories, back, 2 full armor sets, and runes. Haven't started on weapons yet but I don't really think it's that bad with the starter kits. I have like 12 of them sitting in my bank. The wizards vault made it so much easier
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>>740054764
Well if they were smart, they would have started working on GW3 after the release of EoD, 4 years ago. Modern game development being what it is means it's not going to be finished for another 2 or 3 years but at least they'd have something to show off.
Again, if they were smart.
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>>740030705
>no playable charr
Into the trash it goes along with gw1
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>>740050850
Played from launch and really expected GW2 to take more of the Heroes approach from Nightfall after a while with all the horizontal progression and focus on NPC guilds. I was always mildly disappointed that it never really came about.
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>>740054984
the only good Charr is a dead Charr being worn as a hat
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>>740054948
I think it's less of intelligence and more that NCSoft is basically C-listed ANet and makes them live off of scraps. I seriously doubt they're given the resources to develop a sequel and current game expansions simultaneously. Like you said it's been layoffs and low sales. Like >>740048679 shows it's not exactly a hot item.
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>>740030705
Will we finally get Guild Wars 1-2?
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>>740055117
Weirdly enough while GW2 went more of the traditional MMO route, in the years since a lot of the online game industry has shifted more towards the GW1 approach.
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>>740055008
Uh oh meat melty
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>>740055075
This is getting wildly speculative but it would be funny if NCSoft had GW3 be co-developed with their other mmo studios (Koreans), in order to make the series appealing to their huge asian market.
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>>740030705
sink, sank, sunk
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>>740055326
It would be a laugh if GW3 is just Korean MMO trash. Maybe call it writing on the wall. Like I said I think I'll just move on with my life. Feels like Tyria has had a good run. Threw down the system and made a new prime god and everything.
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>>740030705
I thought they were doing that Horizon slop
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I just wanted GW2 to have high DPI support for the UI. Surely 14 years was enough time
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>>740030705
I hope it's good. Their whole studio has been infected with Dei, ESG, faggot shit in all their "recent" content. I quit before it got that bad; put in 600hrs in the release year and never went back. There's hope, just not a lot.
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>>740055658
>faggot shit in all their "recent" content
explain
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>>740055007
It's not like there isn't precedent, since FF11 lets everyone run Trusts in the open world.
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>>740030705
there is noti a single competent employee left at arenanet, not even the artists that made guild wars concept art so good are still there, i wish i could be hyped for gw3 but the maintenance mode gw2 has been on for 10 years has been shameful and shown theyre retarded
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>prequel
>no nord
fug
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the sequel wont have pornstar bodies or anything resembling any unique properties that made guild wars special initially, like interesting class concepts and lore
every expansion arenanet has done has shown their writers are retarded millenials who have completely lost the plot and insert whatever protest they went to most recently into the games lore
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screw that
>no Soule
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>>740056431
it'll be hilarious to see how lobotomized everything will be
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I enjoyed the game for a bit, so I'm probably going to check out whatever's coming our way
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>>740030705
>fleeing into the past because the future is ruined
oof
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>>740056586
its going to be so cool when gw3 has absolutely none of this sex appeal and is some unreal 5 meta human slop instead
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Literally just retcon everything and make it a sequel to GW1 with a heavy focus on the charr apocalypse. That's it. That's the game
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>>740056431
>unique properties that made guild wars special
just like gw2 then
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>>740030705
i tried the guildwars game but they want me to buy 5 addons or so to have all the stuff and im not going to get oneshot by some overpowered people any longer, this is a waste of my time.

i wonder why they have these giant problems in the games. im used to playing wow. these other games has the biggest issues, YOU CANT PLAY THEM. this is absolutely crazy.

they all want to work at blizzard because the rest of dev stupid seem to be total incompetent idiots.
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it was 175 bucks combined for the stuff. what are they thinking, i dont get it. nobody will buy this. im under the impression that i am surrounded by a bunch of literal retards.

im so lost here.
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>>740030819
My thoughts exactly
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Do people unironically believe Guild Wars 2 is a good game
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>>740030819
the pvp suvks in guildwars. its so slow its unreal.
bdo is better but only stupid people play games now they make it all unplayable.

you realize how badly curated the player base is of these other games. they cant just kick terrorists off their servers. they need them to make money.

blizzard can just bann them all. they have so much money, they dont care. they have rules.
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>>740058859
it's a piece of shit I had fun rolling around in like a toddler
got some nice maps though
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when some loser devoper studio banns all their income, some terrorists chuds, they have to file for bankruptcy.
baiscally you cant play any game other than wow. its just a nightmare for trolls.
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They just need to make the combat good and not have it so fucking bloated. GW2 was never a bad game, but it certainly shows its age and was always poorly managed. So much fucking RNG and lucky drops ruined it for me.
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you play literally 3000 arenas in league because your team feeds every game for years. these people who play like a bot are everywhere.

you have to carry all the time. in guildwars, in black desert, in wow not so much (good game).

these other games will always have giant issues and will only be played by incompetent idiots. the incompetent idiot developers make the game for them.

this is how this works.
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>>740030705
>>740030819
After the shitshow that was GW2? yeah naw, miss me with that shit.
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>>740030705
I fucking hate Orr
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>>740058969
The combat isn't even bad besides the targeting. The clicking and tab target priority makes zero sense and the bosses constantly force you to lose your target
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you cant play any other game than wow and this suvks. i want to get rid of it but it doesnt work. black desert is so shit its unreal. guildwars shit too.

they make these SHITTY GAMES and i cant leave wow..........
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>>740032330
>It never reached terminal wokeness.
Didn't it have the lesbian couple that basically got silently written out after they fired the stupid bitch writer for being an insufferable cunt?
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>>740030705
Unless they fire entire workforce behind 2 I don't care.
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>>740059075
literal 300mmr bobs talking about the story. these are people you have to carry in the games. completely useless braindead idiots.
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>>740059058
I feel it always wanted to be more of an action RPG, something like PSO2, but to keep things balanced and to be familiar, they went for tab targeting instead. Plus the game came out like 15 years ago or something.
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>>740030705
GW1 was a mediocre CRPG loved by people who never played CRPGs before
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>>740059062
Once I forced myself to lose my AOTC/Cutting Edge streak my desire to even log in to WoW went to 0. Fucking dogshit game, the only reason people even play retail is because of FOMO. Dragonflight completely destroyed the game both in the open world with the huge empty zones that forced flying and raiding by buffing M+ gear so much you had to run it constantly or fall behind permanently.
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>>740051513
>It's being shown in the summer games thing
GW1 is coming to mobile (hopefully not F2P).
If them hiring unreal devs is real, probably a new third-person (instanced) action RPG.
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>>740059131
we love Dungeon Siege though
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>mfw it's gacha
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>>740047676
>there are like 4 major mmos (arguably 3) worth talking about
>g-g-g-guild wars nubah 5 !11!!1
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>>740059112
they at least need to publicly behead the writers or its completely over before it even begins
the craziest part of guild wars 2 is they have fully committed to the gimmick of making you wait for NPCs to finish their 40 minute dialogue before you can advance to actually playing the game in every single expansion too so you're forced to sit there while the most bland NPCs chatter about their gender affirmations and whatnot
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>>740059291
DS is more fun than GW1, it's true
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>>740059370
Show me a video of the story mission dialogue that talks about gender affirmations
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>>740058859
It's by far the best bang for your buck MMO and almost certainly the 3rd biggest one after wow and ff14
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can I fuck Kas yet?
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>>740059498
anon.... I....
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every game is pay to win i cant play them. i have to play vs superinsane overpowered pay 2 win characters.
only in wow they have he same gear. the only fair game is wow. the rest is p2w. they had to cope with their low numbers of players, so they gave all the idiots a win button.

you just get annoyed playing it because its so unfair.
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>>740059495
yeah I'd say GW2 is the better MMO between those two
the only real advantage SWTOR has is the story
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>MMO players arguing how popular their games are
>meanwhile 3/4 of /vg/ are gacha threads and these games have 100k players each as a baseline
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>>740059550
hey I'm not a bigot, I wouldn't kick the chink out of bed
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the guy hits you for literally 0,2sec and youre dead. what is this. were supposed to have a real fight not just push one button. you fuking idiots with your fuking p2w games. this is so annoying.
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>>740059587
why is gacha living rent free in your head anyways?
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>>740059587
Gacha aren't even games so it's not a comparison
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>>740059495
> #57 World of Warcraft - 3,824
> Confidence: 100%
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>>740059583
guildwars suvks so hard with this zoomer community and its pay to win. you make literally 0 dmg free to play. fuck these loser games. they torture everyone who doesnt give them 200 bucks for their shitty game.
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I would be excited for this but all I can remember is WvW becoming less and less fun as time went on.
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i play the wow game pay just 15 bucks and i make as much dmg as everybody else. go and fuck all of you zoomer fucks with your pay2win.
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>>740059643
Gachas are actual, real, relevant modern mmos
Classic MMOs are niche genre that lasts as long as its aging 40+ yo population is alive
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youre giant losers cant even play a fair game. useless zoomers, braindead morons.
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>>740059587
gacha pretty much is the mmo successor for me. well, it depends on the game but it has the same qualities.
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>>740030705
Sorry Arenanet, once a franchise or game is pozzed, I don't give a fuck about it anymore aside from if horrible things happen to it and the people involved.
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>>740030705
Anet lost any of my good will after End of Dragons. No, not because of hurr durr bash the bigot or whatever shit that's posted all the time.
I got used to the story being bad, IBS was right there, but EoD was a low point not just in terms of story, but designs of maps(vomit green jade, Kaineng map) and gameplay both(jadebots, pointless useless shit turtle mount, classes, fucking Gyala Delve map meta). Also tons of bugs like Kanaxai fight or them giving in to the bitching about Harvest Temple meta being hard.

After that I stopped giving a fuck about their rebranded Living World Episodes aka mini-expansions with retarded padded features that try to justify them being called an expansion.
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>>740030705
Mandatory
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxTiwKvp348
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>>740045214
should've been killed by Yoko in PoF
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>>740059805
>vomit green jade
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>>740056296
Just put your humans heigth slider to max and you have a nord
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>>740060035
reminder that my dragon daughter wife Aurene ate Joko's magic balls, he is a poser and a fraud
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>>740060096
I JUST DON'T GET IT
HOW
WHO
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>>740059410
There's no way it's even close to Runescape
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>>740060096
>corridor + box maps of gw1 with some nice yet often inaccessible vistas
>vs varied elevation terrain that is fun to navigate in various ways with plenty of used, played space
fair trade I say
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>>740060096
ANet did a collaboration with Nickelodeon? Cool!
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>>740056431
Can't wait to see what they will do to "type B" humans.
It's gonna be a disaster.
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Guild Wars ended at 1
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>>740059809
>Man inspects GW1
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luv me charr
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>>740036450
>Did I miss a cool story?
uh
sometimes
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>>740030705
The human charr conflict must be resumed the "oh no there's a bigger jaw now we need to work together and stuff" trope is boring and stale
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>>740060980
sure, but let me play as charr and kill+rape+eat human
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>>740060931
I have a hard time thinking of anything
granted I stopped playing after PoF
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>>740061015
a prequel would be ripe for that kind of conflict but we'd be missing out on SUPREME ASCALONIAN ENGINEERING
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>>740060893
>they look nothing like this in the game
>barely even act like this
yeah ok
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>>740060980
Femcharr owe me sex
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>>740061143
Subvert your expectation
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>>740061143
das rite
we wuz ascalonianz n shiet
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>>740061143
They do in Core, but it's toned down significantly after. They aren't that represented in the story too.
This is true to most races too.
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>>740061249
Why do MMOs always devolve into shit like this?
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>>740030705
Looking forward to the npc that will be taking credit for the player's action again
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>>740061558
players love it, devs love money
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>>740030705
who the fuck releases mmo in 2027, just look at new world and ashes
unless its mobile gacha or extractor shooter
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Come home white man
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>>740061962
>I want to play grindy af game with player cabal mafia controlling everything
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>>740062056
>player cabal mafia controlling everything
that's every mmo thoughbeit
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Did the mobile version of GW1 come out yet?
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>>740061962
>a large rat
how large we talkin here?
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>>740062468
knee high with wide fat hips
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>>740060262
>t. uses skyscale to fly anywhere making the terrain obsolete
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>>740030705
Would be great if its just GW with verticality, unfortunately i expect a full on WoW clone.
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>>740063147
I like raptor, griffin and beetle. Dragon's End is great for those. Skyscale only to keep with the pack or climb up sometimes, skimmer is a better flier now.
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Who's more racist, a pre-searing Ascalonian or a Morrowind era Dunmer
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>>740059017
This cannot be real...
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>>740064268
I love these musical niggas like you wouldnt believe
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>>740060980
I tried larping as a charr supremacist who hates h*mans, there's even whopping two instances where you can insult random human npcs with the M word, sadly the story becomes very un-charrish once the kino personal story ends and you get recruited into one of three orders.
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>now you remember the Olmakhan
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>female Charr get heavily modified female outfits to make sure they still work on their body shapes
>female Asura have to wear male asura outfits (unless they're paid sets :^)
I will never forgive them for this
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>>740059017
I told with dindu salads that slope was slippery
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So it turns out the mobile port did release, yay
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>>740030705
I actually enjoyed GW2 a lot, for a few months 13 years ago anyway. Because of the "horizontal progression" meme there wasn't really an endgame at all, once you got any gear set and did some achievements or whatever the game was kind of over.

I'm one of those poor, forlorn souls who nearly exclusively plays MMOs, it's a dead genre I'd love to see revitalized, so it's actually nice to have at least a little hope for its future, I'm optimistic for GW3.
Probably won't ever be a "forever MMO" though, just a fun detour.
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>>740030705
Gw2 is probably my biggest disappointment in gaming ever lol lmao gw3 is not gonna be any different
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>>740067186
Gw2 mogs 1 in every way
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>>740067186
I couldn't stand 1, but 2 was super fun even vanilla
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Releasing an MMORPG in 2026 has to be the worst idea ever.
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>>740069591
Depends if Amazon is your publisher
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>>740069591
can't be any worse than another battle royale/hero shooter
people are desperate for MMOs and will actually try anything new even if it looks like trash, just look at how many players even now dead MMOs like New World got at launch
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>>740030705
I'd play it if they make an actually interesting story this time and engaging combat. GW2 was a game that did so well in areas that mattered little and did horribly in areas that make MMOs.
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>>740070198
what areas are those
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>>740070238
Just said it in my post. Combat and story. Also engaging max level content.
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>>740030705
>gw3 when there hasn't even been a gw2 yet
Weird.
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>>740063296
The griffon time trials are some of the most fun content modern ANet ever made. Flying that thing around at high speed is just satisfying in itself. It's weighted so well for what it does.
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>>740030705
Cancel GW2 and 3, reinvest back into GW1.
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>>740070275
areas that mattered little but were done well?
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>>740030705
No thanks, enduring pozz-wars 2 having its entire theme, vibe, and story upended to be replaced with LGBT propaganda was bad enough. Id rather not participate in one designed from the ground up by middle aged white women to be as gay as possible.
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>>740070597
All of the mounts are far better implemented than most other games which instead just make them a flashy speed boost.
It's a shame they made the skyscale fill multiple roles covered by other mounts do. Should have been a wall climbing spider or something if they wanted vertical movement.
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>>740070090
MMO is a genre for millenials who are all adults and are likely busy with life. Gen Z and A largely don't care for them and are into multiplayer games like Minecraft and Roblox.
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I have yet to finish the other two expansions after HoT expansion, but the gameplay, setting, and music is good. I dread of reaching the woke parts, and I hate the grind to unlock things...
Still I hope GW3 adds Tengu race & zone, as was planned for 2 but never happened neither of them.
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>>740061249
>Large Male Norn
>Nothing but a speedo and bright blue hair
>dancing in LA near the squid bank
yep. it's "gamin" time.
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>>740070238
Masterpieces of game design like
>Tying skills to weapons so you are forced to play a certain weapon instead of taking skills for synergy, its such genius design that only since the most recent expansion longbow has become viable for a Ranger thanks to Galeshot.
>Elite specializations from the expansions are mandatory because of both boon generation and most of the core professions mechanics straight up being bad, the zealots will tell you the game isnt p2w though.
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>>740071126
As far as pay-to-win goes, owning an expansion barely registers.
Its like other games where it would raise the level cap or have cash shop enhancements without being able to use ingame gold for the currency.
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>>740069591
people have moved on to gacha games, anyway
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>>740067186
Mesmer was the only good thing about GW2 because you could drop gates around WvW move your army inside forts in an instant and then spam a bunch of clones to distract and apply bleed/slow. Most broken shit ever but it was fun.
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>>740071126
Yes buying the game is required to play it lol. Only poorfags complain about expansions being mandatory. Guild wars is infested with fucking SEA monkeys and Brazilians that think like this. Oh no I have to buy the game to be competitive!
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>>740071032
There isn't much grinding to unlock things, but get ready to alt-tab during story section in later half of the game for sure.
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As you can see the zealots are straight up defending it, notice how they arent denying the fact that its p2w but come up with some cope reply.
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>>740071768
You're not even making the argument for how it is p2w, just bitching about needing to buy content.
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>>740071831
Learn to read.
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>>740071768
Pay 2 win is shit like unlimited micro transactions that give power where you can out buy someone else. If you spend $1000 and I spend $10000, I win. An expansion is a very low cost that comes out like once a year maybe. It's something even sea monkeys like you should be able to afford and more importantly you can't just spend more money than the cost of the expansion to out buy me in power. Feel free to argue against this logic, you can't. Stay mad poorfags lmao.
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>>740071768
At least gw1's sunk cost explicitly in the game's economy, only earned from playtime clearing endgame shit. Like eternal shields or anything from FoW/Underworld/HA. And the PvP was unbeatable. Gw2 was such a disappointment beyond measure.
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>>740071126
Longbow became viable on ranger in general in prepatch, you don't need galeshot for it to work.
And core elites are plenty viable for what you fight in core/f2p game. You don't need expansion elites as a free player.
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>>740071872
all i see is you refusing to engage with the game and blame your inability on expansion features instead of what p2w actually is.
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I'm still surprised that this mmo's community managed to be one of the worst, even bellow WoW's
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>>740045307
>Except they lose all progresssion every year.
This applies to mmo too, I don't know why mmofags are this way, everytime a new expansion release you have to grind everything again
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When GW2 came out, it felt like something fully removed from the original. I'm actually sort of nostalgic for that early GW2 feel, because when they started bringing gw1 fanservice, they did it in such a bad and lame way it ruined both GW2 and the original lore. After Path of Fire, which was when the game at its peak (despite them completely ruining Balthazar and the lore of the six gods), the writing became completely unbearable. I had to drop the game completely. I have zero interest in GW3.
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>>740030705
>>740030819
I can't wait to beat up more bigots!
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>>740072156
In gw2 you very specifically don't need to grind everything again.
They even established a tier of item that takes ages to work towards and allows you to stat/skin swap freely whilst also being account bound, meaning you never need to get another item of that slot again unless it's for the skin.
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>>740072013
I cant even feel pity for you, do yourself a favor and go learn how to read it will save you alot of embarrassment.
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>>740072156
GW2 requires zero re-grinds, you are always moving account forward, it's the main selling point of the game.
Most mmos do it because it's a good way to balance dedicated-casual player progression and re-create familiar goals for players to reach for. It does contradict the idea of MMOs, but it's a reasons to do soft reset the progress.
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>>740071768
it's the furries, they're already mentally ill from being cat or rat or dragon fuckers
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>17 hour old GW thread still up
WHOOOOOA
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>>740058896
>the pvp suvks in guildwars.
it's breddy fun, you sound like you just got slapped with a powerblock and are fuming to this day
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>>740072313
why did this line trigger people anyway?
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>>740073185
Don't get too excited. It's mostly people shitting on ArenaNet for making GW2
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>>740072690
You're the guy that thinks an expansion is p2w mechanics
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>>740073350
And? We've been doing that since GW2 released because it was a poor disappointing game created by developers who openly bragged about never playing GW1. I personally played a few hours of the GW2 beta and instantly refunded it.
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>>740073350
No it isn't. It's like 2 boomers samefagging about Gw1 vs Gw2. Everyone understands Gw1 is an infinitely inferior game to Gw2, which upsets them and feeds the thread.
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>>740030705
I've played GW1 back in the day and wasn't excited at all. Slow af leveling in a boring world, ugly world. China and africa as expansion themes were retarded choices too. Good thing they had the skip for pvp, only saving grace. But you still needed to play the awful pve parts at some point later to unlock shit iirc, so I've dropped it quickly
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>>740073957
no one asked newfag
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>>740073957
It was fucking cool how Nightfall turned out to be one of the very few great African-inspired themed games.
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did they ever kill off that faggot traherne?
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>>740074178
He died over a decade ago. You personally shove his blade into him.
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>>740074178
he dies in first expansion, grandpa
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>>740074231
>>740074258
cool,shame i dont care to play it anymore though
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>>740073957
GW1 is genuinely just an abysmal game. It's hideous, looks like somebody bought a bunch of assets and threw them around the place. There is jagged terrain and floating buildings everywhere. The gameplay is completely brain dead grinding where you basically don't have to do anything at all while your companions kill all the enemies. And the zones are just a monotonous grind where you walk from point A to point B and kill the hordes of enemies for no reason. The community is just nostalgic boomers. Only thing good about the game is the world, which is also why Gw2 upsets the boomers so much since it has all the positives of the game without being complete junk.
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>>740074683
wow GW1 looks like THAT
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funny how the furry keeps using boomer as an insult for old when he's in diapers already from his blown out asshole
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>>740071645
Actually I liked Elementalist too since you could combine your own spells to create fields and blast them into boons. You could do this in pvp and become unlillable from all the might, protection and stability boons you'd have 90% uptime with. They eventally had to nerf it probably because I spent so much time ganking people with daggers because you'd also get frost aura which slowed everyone down. One of the few classes with actual skill expression and rewarding gameplay.
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>>740074683
Absolute idiotic take from start to finish. You have to try to be this wrong.
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>>740074683
You can tell this guy wasn't playing games back in 2005
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>>740073701
>>740073957
>>740074683
>samefagging THIS hard

>>740074807
It's funny how he is so upset that he continues to samefag.
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>>740074903
Gw1 nostalgiafags running out of cope
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Not sure what this guy is talking about. GW1 was beautiful when it was relevant and it's still a very pretty game today.
The combat was peak and still is, enemy mobs weren't filling the entire map but they had patrol routes and often had actual group dynamics like Tanks, Healers and DPS. They also largely used the same skills players used so it encouraged you to learn what skills did what.

The PvP was also fantastic and I always liked how the Prophecies campaign was designed around getting players ready for PvP through PvE missions and mechanics.

GW1 was truly ahead of its time.
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>>740075089
>what's a VPN
Means nothing these days
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>>740050850
GW 1 did everything right the game was way ahead of its time. It managed to nail the "what is necessary for a comfortable esports game"without gutting its singleplayer content. It satisfied both PvP and PvE faggots. The things GW 1 had managed to do, most games haven't even begun to consider, it will be a renaissance of online videogames once the arrogant retards developing them will actually begin to learn from the examples of the past instead of stubbornly trying to reinvent the wheel.
Bring back dual classing.
Bring back bodies of characters and enemies acting as physical entities that block you and not something you can walk through.
Bring back terrain height increasing or decreasing range and damage of your ranged attacks and or projectile spells.
Bring back line of sight mattering for projectiles and objects blocking them.
Bring back dodging by moving instead of "press a button to become invulnerable".
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>>740030705
call me when it's not woke
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>>740030705
I am hopeful, I played up to the EoD quest with the "agender engineer" and the bitch talking about Theo Ashford and "his husband", got too ridiculous at that point. Hoping GW3 can be different.
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>>740075089
>I said a buzzword again!
lol
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>>740059075
Lesbian plant women, if I recall.
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>>740075528
Actual trvke. I'm surprised nobody tried to copy GW1 really.
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gw1 fags got a modicum of attention from the devs and act like their game is wow classic-tier success lul
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GW2 commits the sin that all modern mmos do where they think it's acceptable to make the game a snoozefest that you just roll your face on the keyboard for until you're 500 hours in doing pinnacle content
GW1 has early mission filters in every expansion to force you to learn more about the game and what you're doing
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You did unlock her as your mesmer hero, right?
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>Almost get a sick ass bird race
>Some sissy faggot on the writing team throws a shit fit
>We get lame as fuck plant elves instead

I'm still mad. I'll never not be mad.
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>>740076028
>GW1 has early mission filters in every expansion to force you to learn more about the game and what you're doing
Good news, you can now go full autism mode and force yourself to get everything as loot instead of trade, making the game even harder on yourself. Aka Ironman mode.

https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Melandru%27s_Accord
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>>740076590
I only ever run a maximum of one mesmer hero and it's always my daughterwife Gwen
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>>740076590
I have a full set of mercenaries. At least It's nice for those who don't.
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>>740076864
>waifuing a cunt that has her womb fill with charr barb dick and charr cum
lol

>>740076949
Yeah, she, and Devona, are early Heroes for new Reforged Prophecies players when the devs want to make Prophecies like other standalone. So now they have a mesmer if they do the questline after presearing. Oh and Well can be use on demand if there is no corpse, but you Sac 66% of your HP.
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>>740030705
MMO devs need to stop making MMOs based on post-cataclysm WoW with braindead leveling experience and only focusing on endgame raiding.
That was literally the decline of WoW's popularity, and the only reason newer WoW expacs are even designed with braindead leveling experience is because the game was already several expansions in and wanted to push new players to the latest expansion and it's endgame content as quickly as possible. There is no reason for a new MMO not to focus on your leveling experience while exploring the world, making it a challenging, engaging, sofial experience.

Because wow was still the biggest MMO out there after cata every MMO dev started copying directly what they were doing right then. Now all you have is a bunch of MMOs with the most dogshit weightless leveling experience possible and a community and devs who genuinely think this is just the norm, this is what MMOs are, because this is how all modern MMOs are designed
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>>740030705
>prequel
I've grown to hate these
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Kill charr. Behead charr. Roundhouse kick a charr into the concrete. Slam dunk a charr baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy charr. Launch charr into the sun. Stir fry charr in a wok. Toss charr into active volcanoes. Urinate into a charrs gas tank. Judo throw charr into a wood chipper. Twist charr heads off. Report charr to the IRS. Karate chop charr in half. Curb stomp pregnant charr. Trap charr in quicksand. Crush charr in the trash compactor. Liquefy charr in a vat of acid. Eat charr. Dissect charr. Exterminate charr in the gas chamber. Stomp charr skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate charr in the oven. Lobotomize charr. Mandatory abortions for charr. Grind charr fetuses in the garbage disposal.
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>I quit the original game after a month, watched the over exaggerated meme politics video, and haven't played in 10 years and already know it's going to be SHIT!!

90% of the people ITT
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>>740059805
Add their putrid wvw balance to that
>have fun playing heal vindi in wvw
>gets nerfed massively
>have fun playing anything that isn't guardian
>nerf nerf nerf
And all their dogshit classes that play themselves introduced with EoD, can't imagine how much more worse it is now. Fuck anet and their rainbow colored hair employees, I hope the entire company crashes and burns and that every single faggot responsible for balance gets hanged in the streets.
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>>740078887
>still samefagging
Laughing in your face.
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>>740076681
>>Almost get a sick ass bird race
>>Some sissy faggot on the writing team throws a shit fit
>>We get lame as fuck plant elves instead
I demand source of this claim, please.
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>>740076681
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>>740078213
With what's going on in the current GW2 expansion's story it could be literally anything and many options you may even hate more than prequels. Vloxx, the current villain, just did some godlike ascension shit and is talking about rewriting the code of reality and shit like that, so whatever he does could put us in the past, in some alternate timeline in the current year, could take us to a timeline so different it's not even comparable, etc.
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>>740079361
>Dollar Store Utopia campaign almost 20 years later
:<
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_Utopia
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>>740079361
Alternate history is the easiest... With a future expansion they have to worry about adding stuff to GW2 that messes with the timeline, and a prequel requires careful consideration to make sense with GW2. Future sequels only really make sense if they aren't ever adding any content to GW2 again
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>>740079774
Yeah there have even been a couple light references to time shenanigans through the expansion, like talking about how the island we're on is "stuck in time" or something like that. It kinda does seem like map 4 could be Xoteca or some shit, but I also kinda doubt they'll go that far with "re"treading the exact plan for Utopia.
>>740079915
Yeah I think that's probably the only real way to do it unless they want to put their new game elsewhere in the mists completely unconnected to Tyria which wouldn't be super compelling in my opinion. Getting a whole ass "what if" timeline sounds really cool, WoodenPotatoes was going over a lot of this on a stream yesterday like what if the charr never got the cauldron of cataclysm, what if the dragons never existed, what if Orr never sank?
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>>740079361
Alternate timeline would be the best for the story because they can make asura irrelevant and not have their deus ex machinas solve every single problem
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>>740075637
No, the human ones. The necro bitch and mesmer or whatever
>>740059116
> doing pvp
I'm not that much of a faggot. I do traids though and I'm sure I've carried your sorry ass through one of you've ever managed to find your way in one
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>>740030705
Please be more like GW1, 2 just plain stinks.
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>>740080225
>the island we're on is "stuck in time"
we Aldmeris now
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>>740080225
On the assumption that the current antagonist wants to make a single change with the intention to bring everyone into some form of balance or equal footing. It sounds like either spreading the power to everyone or taking it away from everyone.
The removal of magic, or greater limitation of it, and the altering of historical events as a result would make an alright retcon where going further in the current timeline has you questioning why anyone would bother standing against the commander who's feats should put them in line to just become God next, and would have if the rat wasn't 10 minutes ahead of you.
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>>740080863
GW1 is utter garbage, any game like GW1 would die in a week
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>>740056431
When they were really struggling they started to add bikinis, school girl outfits, etc. into the cash store. It was a very short-lived window though, hasn't been any sexy outfits for a while now.
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>>740045339
>Diversity's Edge
kek
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>>740030705
there is zero (0) chance this will be good. Modern dev teams are hopelessly incompetent
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>>740030705
dont really have any hope for GW3 to even be decent with GW2 being so fucking shit
anyone saying GW2 is different from launch is talking out of their ass and in denial since story has gotten worse and gameplay is the same mob swarm
GW2 did have nice scenery and environments and female Norn but thats about it
>>740043717
>GW2 changes female statue into male statue since devs and players hate women so much
that change was so fucking retarded
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even with 2s problems i still liked exploring all the zones over the last 14 years so i'll probably check it out
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>>740030705
after sodomite wars 2 I have zero (0) the franchise is dead to me and everyone I know who played gw1
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>>740081180
>NO you cant have sexy women
>NO you cant have sexy armor
>it breaks immersion
>can have rainbows and all the other fag shit though
its weird how fucking mental the fags are
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all I want for gw3 is for it to soak up enough normiebucks that it doesn't sink anet and take out the GW1 servers. that's all. I have no hopes for it beyond that.
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>>740081640
good, hope those fags and you die along with the franchise too
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>>740081490
Yeah I don't put a ton of time into GW2 but I do enjoy the little time I do spend on it just exploring maps, riding around on mounts, doing some adventures and jumping puzzles, etc. It's a comfy casual game for me, if they can make the maps remotely as good looking and fun to explore as GW2 I'll definitely play the next one.
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>>740081696
Yeah, it's almost like it's a mental illness or something.

Anyway here's a webm of me breaking away from a zerg to single out a faggot and kill them at the risk of dying myself. As dogshit as GW2 is, I still enjoy the WvW aspect so if they can expand on that in 3 I might be interested, I just don't see it happening in UE5.
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>>740081885
>t. most mentally stable faggot
don't you have feces to revel in
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Unreal Engine 5 has only been out 4 years. They're either announcing an early access MMO (RIP), and underbaked MMO (RIP), or a game that is 5 years away.
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>>740082048
Retard you're playing a furry cat charr. That's a million times worse. You should be crucified and your character's hide should be turned into a carpet
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>>740030819
yea.. its just too late at this point, we're literally in the end of times, with ongoing war and all that.
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>>740082381
Actually a human wearing charr skin if you bothered to examine the pixels.
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>>740082381
the intensinal parasites you got from deciding to become an abominable sodomite are doing wonders to your psyche



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